12:42 TVTropes apparently calls it a "Deus Exit Machina" when a too-powerful supporting character is sidelined so the heroes can properly conflict with the villains. Funny coincidence, the quote at the top of the article is from DBZA, when Perfect Cell tells Vegeta to wait for Goku (which I personally feel is not an example of this trope).
"I have no desire to fight any of these people... except maybe the Gokus." "We're here to kill this bird." "... these individuals have seen Goku. These parameters are... *acceptable."*
@@orbboom6119 there's apparently multiple DBH manga. the one that is based on the actual premise of DBH (isekai cardgame MMO) and the one that's effectively what this anime is based on
23:30 The Official name is, I kid you not “Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker” I dont know why the “Full Power” bit is inbetween the Super Saiyan bit, but that name scheme also applied to the GT powerup, so yeah.
It WAS just "Full Power Super Saiyan 4" or "Super Saiyan 4 (Full Power)", but they changed it around when Xenoverse changed Majin Vegeta to Prince of Destruction Vegeta
@@Dasaltwarrior I guessed Wheelo because he has a cane like what Wheelo's assistant Kochin used to fight Roshi in World's Strongest. Aside from the face it looks a LOT like Kochin.
@@malachiatkinson7245Been a couple days so sorry if you already found out but it just means “half” or partial. It’s used the same way “semi” or “hemi” can be, and they all exist separately because like many things in the English language they’re all borrowed from older languages
@@TheKing-kd9li interesting, thank you. I feel like that would be only part of an identity, though, right? Like, if you're part girl or part boy, what's the other part? Can there be multiple? I'm sorry if I'm being overbearing, I just like to have as much knowledge of things like this as I can
@@malachiatkinson7245 Dw, I’m like the plainest straight guy around trying to make sense of everything myself so I’m happy to help others. The other part would be the opposite gender (that is, the person’s biological gender). Since it’s a type of nonbinary identity it isn’t exclusively “male” or “female” but somewhere in between. So if someone identifies as a demigirl, that means they were born a male and partially identify as a female, while not going all the way as a trans girl.
Something I find so funny about Heroes is that it was already doing insane fanfic levels of fights with all the fusions, demons etc. But then because super introduced literal gods and angels to the franchise Heroes had to up it's game and do even more crazy bullshit because of how insane the power scaling got.
When I first watched these episodes, I thought Fu was going to force fused Tokitoki with Dogidogi after kidnapping the good bird. Creating a Deviantart abomination.
Fun fact - in one of the episodes of TFS' Xenoverse 2 playthrough (don't remember which one but I think it was during the main story), they joked about a "Tokitoki Black" (Goku Black was fresh in the minds at the time). Lo and behold, they predicted Dogidogi. They also sorta predicted Super Broly and Cell Max in the same playthrough.
The "sewing machine" was the purification machine that holds all of hells evil essence taken from those that were evil and purified. The machine blew up and the essence landed on a demon boy and turns him into Janemba in fusion reborn.
Sparking Zero: Man, look at us. Everyone’s here. GT, Super, even some of the movie villains are made it! (Thank you merchandising!) Xenoverse, Heroes and Online characters: *clears throat*
unironically hope htere's a heroes DLC pack for sparkign zero, the sleaker Dr. Wheelo design that shows up after this looks really good, also i love xeno goku's fit and powerpole
I like Xeno Pan design much better than GT Pan design too Sadly heroes didn’t do a lot with Xeno Pan in the anime (in the manga she have more screen time). Lets hope Dragon Ball Super Divers at least gonna give us SSJ Xeno Pan when they gonna do a Heroes mode.
@@dankerbell She'd have to do like Kale and have her head band thingy run for it's life when she powers up. I honestly think that's the real reason. making her hair go full spiky would force her to stop wearing that head scarf thing. Soo... what level of spiky should Pan have? Oh right... Kale's not the only one, they did that first in the original Broly movie too. Kale dresses a LOT like Broly did in the OG Broly movie. To include... having a hair tie. the design for non-SSJ Broly has a hair tie holding his hair in a bundle much like Kale has.
My fav parts of these reviews are the 17:10 moments when Lani/Kaiser are dicking around throwing random ideas out then it actually happens in the show and they’re like 😶 lol
The most confusing about Xeno Trunks is that the story wants to have it both ways by making him be based on Future Trunks but also on Present Trunks role in GT Like how for some reason he can fuse with the Xeno version of Goten which makes no sense when you think about it, like where did he even come from? Same goes for those versions of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Pan And is funny how he gets Super Saiyan God while the others get Super Saiyan 4 The whole deal about the Gods of Destruction is even dumber because they should all know who Toki Toki is, Xenoverse even makes a point that Whis would stop Beerus from destroying the whole place when he sees that the bird layed an egg
A bit of a fact on xeno trunks, from what I've red he was going to actually get ss4...however the thing that made them choose ssg instead was because the creators couldn't decide on the hair color for the form (the colors being black or purple).....which is just so...SOOOOO fucking wild.
for HFIL you should totally make a "Majin Salsa" commercial that plays on idk Raditz' TV or something either in the background or while they're watching it for whatever reason or purpose.
12:50 no idea if there's a name for it, but it does happen sometimes. For instance in Fairy Tail when they were fighting another guild (no spoilers), the respective guilds' strongest wizards had to face off against each other, leading to above-average level fight but the protagonist and his party still had something to do.
28:17 jesus lani chill bro. i mean i get it but chill, ur hand will thank u. also shoutout to the mahogany table. AND NOT JUST ANY MAHOGANY-other commenters can finish the rest.
2:48 Honestly I enjoy whenever they bring up Death Battle, especially with how long they've been working with them ever since Vegeta vs Shadow. Also side note/spoiler for Trunks vs Silver: It was Dragon Ball Heroes Trunks vs Archie Comics Silver, basically they're most powerful and bullshit versions of themselves. Because if it was canon Future Trunks vs Silver, Silver gets SO washed.
You can do infinite universes right, Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter's long earth series does it, although there's the caveat that humanity only evolved on 1 earth
12:00 The one that applies most specifically to this situation is Deus Exit Machina, whose current page quote, funnily enough, is the line Cell says to Vegeta right before he breaks his back.
Nick's full-force table punch at the end freaked me out for a moment. Like, I know he's a strong guy, but that's how you break your hand if you're not careful. The fact that he apparently _dented_ the table made it even worse.
For as many times as Turles has reappeared over the years and as many fruit he's consumed, it's weird he's never gone super saiyan. Beyond that I think it's even weird how little they do with Raditz. You'd think Goku's biological brother would have more impact on the greater story than his singular appearance.
I believe a collection of multiverses is a Megaverse, alternatively Zeno's palace being a universe with around 12 microverses or a collection of 12 universes and a Macroverse to contain them all within, but if Universe 6 and Co all have tine travelling shenanigans included the way Universe 7 has multiple Trunks it would qualify as a bigger collection of multiverses into a Megaverse
I haven't watched Heroes, but I've read the wiki a little and I've been bristling with anticipation for Putine's arrival. The only other characters with ice powers in this canon have been Eis Shenron from GT and Ebifurya from World's Strongest, so she's the first ice character we've had in the anime in TWENTY THREE YEARS!! (or eighteen if you include her first appearance in the game)
11:25 _sigh..._ I _really_ wish people would be more openminded about the concept of a multiverse, I *hate* the "Oh, well now none of it matters!" argument. Obviously, everyone's got their own tastes and thresholds for investment, and if multiple/infinite timelines breaks yours, okay, fair enough- but it doesn't _have_ to. Looking at familiar concepts through new lenses, which a multiverse facilitates nicely, can be a lot of fun and really interesting, and it makes me sad and irritable that so many people dismiss the concept out of hand.
i still fail to see how a multiverse makes nothing matter in the first place. if nothing matters, it's always not mattered, a multiverse didn't change that. if things matter, they'll always matter.
Fun Fact: The entirety of the Dragon Ball Franchise has people getting punched, & having them fly in the opposite direction. I caught that a long time ago, & found it to be a unique animation choice
I’m proud to say I was the one who showed Lani, Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker. I wish he archived the stream because my favorite part of his reactions were him constantly screaming “WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!” The most entertained I’ve ever been from a twitch donation and a very humorous time during Covid lockdown during the holidays. It’s so great they even referenced the form in their DBCember with Lani’s little “what?” Joke during the top 10 transformations.
Now I can't get the image out of my head of Turles chomping on a piece of the fruit, winding up a big punch and yelling "FRUIT PUUUUUUNCH!!" as he decks someone in the face.
So Salsa and Putine were from the Dark Demon Realm saga, former allies of Mechikabura, along Gravy, Demigra, Shroom, Towa and Mira. Salsa was blindly loyal to Mechikabura, while Putine is well known of stabbing peope to back, and was with Gravy old ally of Demigra.
When I first started watching heroes and a friend asked me what did I think of it. What I told him was "What ever you want to see in dragon ball you get it, but that's all you're getting".
So at some point in Super I think they revealed that each "opposite" universe in their universe tree is a sort of mirror. SO 6 and 7 are very similar. 5 and 8 are similar, 4 and 9, etc? That's off of memory so I may be a little off base, but yeah. I agree with Kaiser that it's kinda neat having TOTALLY different universes for the most part.
so the funny thing is despite seeing that goten does have the GT design. time patroller trunks is in fact not from GT. he actually does come from the Z timeline. he just gets picked up by the supreme kai of time sometime between Z and super. i assume before his own buu saga
For me when my stories feature infinite universes and timelines I acknowledge that nothing DOES matter. BUT it is about making things matter IN SPITE of infinity. It's like acknowledging that the universe is infinitely large and expanding yet still having first world problems
To be honest the idea that "Infinite Multiverses = Why should I care about these characters" just doesn't make sense to me. Like It's just a thought process that I cannot fathom at all.
Y'know. Kaiser went pretty quickly from "you can't make me read the manga" to "I might even read the manga, and also I'm a Hearts stan." He's absolutely secretly loving this bullshit.
oh another fun thing. this storyline actually is a DIRECT tie in from the dragonball heroes manga AND games. like that starting bit was the story u played in the actual arcarde game. and the demons like salsa and putine that show up are characters in those games
![Seungmin "그렇게, 천천히, 우리(As we are)" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kAzmhLHePqU/mqdefault.jpg)
14:30 The Fruit of the Tree of Might tasing like fruit punch makes sense considering it makes the person that eats it punch good.
Oh my Dende. This comment should be higher.
he should share it would make bojack stronger too
why are you like that? 🥲
Thats amazing, keep talking
I hate how much sense this makes 😂
12:42 TVTropes apparently calls it a "Deus Exit Machina" when a too-powerful supporting character is sidelined so the heroes can properly conflict with the villains. Funny coincidence, the quote at the top of the article is from DBZA, when Perfect Cell tells Vegeta to wait for Goku (which I personally feel is not an example of this trope).
Goku is often an example of this trope, just not at that particular point with Cell vs Vegeta
@@MattManDX1 I would count the heart virus against 19 earlier in the arc as an example!
That's weird. The whole point of that scene was removing Vegeta from the plot because he was weak, not powerful.
"Have you considered Full Power Super Saiyan 4 Limit Break?"
"You made that up."
They probably said it's real name: "Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker"
Changing the order of those words does not make it better!
@@zaphero5518 Is Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan better? Asking for a friend.
@@markuszilke4773 in the manga goku bites his tongue trying to say that xD
Full Power Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4 Plus Ultra Instinct with Kaio-ken x4
I want a hard cut of Lani at the beginning going "I'm enjoying this more than GT" then hard cut to that frustrated punch at the end.
28:18 for the punch.
Followed by , "Hey, I dented the table!"
I can see Android 16 and the Toki Toki bird being bros
"This bird, I like this big bird"
*sqwak*
"Can I be your friend big bird?"
HE DOES WHAT
"I have no desire to fight any of these people... except maybe the Gokus."
"We're here to kill this bird."
"... these individuals have seen Goku. These parameters are... *acceptable."*
HA no robo.
Couple'a bird nerds?
Kaiser last week: i'm never reading the DragonBall Heroes manga
SDBH Anime: and i took that personally
I read a little bit of the manga but similarly to the anime, dropped it cuz it was so damn confusing lmao
@666hauntednightnares1 you're cool man, really cool.
@666hauntednightnares1Nobody can even understand your comments, dork.
I tried but i dont like the art style
@@orbboom6119 there's apparently multiple DBH manga. the one that is based on the actual premise of DBH (isekai cardgame MMO) and the one that's effectively what this anime is based on
23:30 The Official name is, I kid you not
“Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker” I dont know why the “Full Power” bit is inbetween the Super Saiyan bit, but that name scheme also applied to the GT powerup, so yeah.
It WAS just "Full Power Super Saiyan 4" or "Super Saiyan 4 (Full Power)", but they changed it around when Xenoverse changed Majin Vegeta to Prince of Destruction Vegeta
That's apparently what they call Super Broly's Green hair transformation: Super Full Power Saiyan. I shit you not, I found that out through Legends
@@mayoroicjre But, but that's dumb. Why not call it Full Power Super Saiyan?
@@shadowldrago DBS Broly’s form is just FPSSJ in some of the other games, so dont worry about that
@@evilchild1851 Presumably because that makes a lot more sense.
"Final Fantasy Sword" look, it's Bandai Namco, that's clearly the Soul Calibur
Trunks for SC7
@@crisstrider8857 Trunks would need to time travel to SC5 and 6 to fix their poor sales and give Bandai-Namco justification to even make a SC7
I like the way you think
More of a Monado III
Reminds me of the X-Blade from Kingdom Hearts too
“Now counterpoint: pizza” would be a good line
When they said "Dr.W" my mind immediately went "Wiley", I should've known it stood for Wheelo
Same.
I thought "White" because of Red Ribbon names (I don't know if there is a "White" in RR)
@Squarcialupi There is, but he's a general and not a scientist. He's the leader of muscle tower
@@Dasaltwarrior I guessed Wheelo because he has a cane like what Wheelo's assistant Kochin used to fight Roshi in World's Strongest. Aside from the face it looks a LOT like Kochin.
Considering how many evil robots in the Megaman extended series use red circles as a motif, honestly not far off.
That punch to the table had to be equitable to the realization Lani was only under halfway there. Personal at every level.
Kaiser smugly revealing that Lani has to sit through 30 more episodes of this nonsense is hilarious.
Hey, so what does the "demi" prefix mean? I've heard "demiboy" and "demigirl" before, and I'm curious what that's about
@@malachiatkinson7245Been a couple days so sorry if you already found out but it just means “half” or partial. It’s used the same way “semi” or “hemi” can be, and they all exist separately because like many things in the English language they’re all borrowed from older languages
@@TheKing-kd9li interesting, thank you. I feel like that would be only part of an identity, though, right? Like, if you're part girl or part boy, what's the other part? Can there be multiple? I'm sorry if I'm being overbearing, I just like to have as much knowledge of things like this as I can
@@malachiatkinson7245 Dw, I’m like the plainest straight guy around trying to make sense of everything myself so I’m happy to help others.
The other part would be the opposite gender (that is, the person’s biological gender). Since it’s a type of nonbinary identity it isn’t exclusively “male” or “female” but somewhere in between. So if someone identifies as a demigirl, that means they were born a male and partially identify as a female, while not going all the way as a trans girl.
@TheKing-kd9li thank you so much. I appreciate the alliance
Something I find so funny about Heroes is that it was already doing insane fanfic levels of fights with all the fusions, demons etc. But then because super introduced literal gods and angels to the franchise Heroes had to up it's game and do even more crazy bullshit because of how insane the power scaling got.
When I first watched these episodes, I thought Fu was going to force fused Tokitoki with Dogidogi after kidnapping the good bird. Creating a Deviantart abomination.
...Kaiser knowing the "Fox" god of destruction by name is hilarious on a few levels.
15:15
Goku: _"Whaaaaaaat_ is this place?"
Vegeta: "Some kind of lava planet"
20:00
Goku: _"Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat_ is this place?"
Vegeta: "Some kind of jellybean hell"
girlchan in paradise reference?
@@ultimatelifeform7982 That would be why I said it.
Looks easy. …….To DRAW
Android 16 solos the Gods of destruction to protect the Toki Toki bird
I bet he also gets the Dogidogi bird to change sides.
A lot of people who watched this really wanted to see a 17 vs super 17 fight but we never got that
Probably you can find more in the manga version
I can't believe they marketed a barest minimum kind of match up like that and still didn't deliver.
It happens in the arcade but not on screen in the manga and anime.
Kaiser knows EXACTLY which search bar people are putting "Liquir order:score rating:explicit" into
...HEY, WAIT A SECOND!!
HA!!
Fun fact - in one of the episodes of TFS' Xenoverse 2 playthrough (don't remember which one but I think it was during the main story), they joked about a "Tokitoki Black" (Goku Black was fresh in the minds at the time). Lo and behold, they predicted Dogidogi.
They also sorta predicted Super Broly and Cell Max in the same playthrough.
"This feels like a parody of Dragon Ball."
Says the guys who made one of the most popular Dragon Ball parodies ever.
That would make him qualified to recognize a parody when he sees one.
So you know he right
So they know what they're talking about.
I think it's *the* most popular Dragon Ball parody ever, not just one of them.
They speak form experience 😂
The "sewing machine" was the purification machine that holds all of hells evil essence taken from those that were evil and purified. The machine blew up and the essence landed on a demon boy and turns him into Janemba in fusion reborn.
Dr. W looks like he wants to sell us some Kentucky Fried Science
10:50 We NEED Green Trunks and Orange Trunks!
Then they all fuse into RAINBOW TRUNKS!
9:20 the extra modifier symbol is called a "dakuten" it applies to about 30/40% of all japanese hiragana and katakana characters
Sparking Zero: Man, look at us. Everyone’s here. GT, Super, even some of the movie villains are made it! (Thank you merchandising!)
Xenoverse, Heroes and Online characters: *clears throat*
unironically hope htere's a heroes DLC pack for sparkign zero, the sleaker Dr. Wheelo design that shows up after this looks really good, also i love xeno goku's fit and powerpole
This is why i love the dimps dragon ball games! They know dragon ball!
Sparking Zero Overrated.
Man if heroes characters were in sparking zero the amount of custom battles would be nuts.
Heroes is really fun, but can original Dragon Ball get more than 1 character first?
OG Dragon Ball characters are just sitting with a thousand yard stare
I seriously cant wait for them to reach the point of the series when they switch from Digital animation to the fuggin Budokai 3 quality DBH models
I only saw it from totally not mark’s short and, well they’re going into some weirder stuff when they get there
It's such whiplash because they went from acceptable animation to LOL CLIPPING.
Oh I haven't even seen that far
I don't know who will be hurt more from this: Lani or Kaiser?
I thought you were exaggerating, but no, those are LITERALLY the Budokai models. Insane.
Majin Salsa out here looking like Tetsuya Nomura popped in to design one character and leave.
An episode about cosmic birds? Who wrote this episode Android 16?
I _liked the bird!_
Honestly, I like alternate Pan’s design better than GT. Low key wish that was her design in the main canon.
I like Xeno Pan design much better than GT Pan design too
Sadly heroes didn’t do a lot with Xeno Pan in the anime (in the manga she have more screen time). Lets hope Dragon Ball Super Divers at least gonna give us SSJ Xeno Pan when they gonna do a Heroes mode.
And she still doesn't go SSJ
@@Mari_Izu It has to be personal at this point because the female ssj being hard to draw excuse no longer applies.
it still could be, she hasn't reached that age in canon
@@dankerbell She'd have to do like Kale and have her head band thingy run for it's life when she powers up. I honestly think that's the real reason. making her hair go full spiky would force her to stop wearing that head scarf thing. Soo... what level of spiky should Pan have?
Oh right... Kale's not the only one, they did that first in the original Broly movie too. Kale dresses a LOT like Broly did in the OG Broly movie. To include... having a hair tie. the design for non-SSJ Broly has a hair tie holding his hair in a bundle much like Kale has.
7:07 i got a Pizza add on youtube .... when you said that ,,, They know!
i was eating one while watching😅
what the hell is pizza addition?
WAIT LANI IS DOIN WRESLTING TRAINING
LETS GO
Good for him!
@@burrito9327 wrestling or professional wrestling? I can picture him in both
i'm still a hard defender/fan of SSG Trunks and his Final Fantasy Xenoblade Sword, they're both the coolest shit i don't care, i'm sorry.
Trunk’s sword kinda looks like the Third Monado Shulk gets during the final boss battle against Zanza.
@@bearerofbadnews1375 i was goign to say a mix between that and hte third aegis from 2
No but legit that is badass and cool. I thought so in the Death Battle when I first saw it.
I actually like God more on Trunks than Goku or Vegeta.
I think the design is great, I just don’t have any context as to why I should like it beyond that.
My fav parts of these reviews are the 17:10 moments when Lani/Kaiser are dicking around throwing random ideas out then it actually happens in the show and they’re like 😶 lol
The black janemba design goes kinda hard
"Keep firing!
This Janemba is black!"
Black Janemba made my heart flutter. I was more hype for black janemba than most of the events of Super.
"The black janemba design is getting me hard" - @dionysisnance4204
I love me emo Janemba
The black janemba design is getting me tingly wingly - dionysisnance4204
“What is happening” i genuinely wondered how many time that question has been answered for this series alone…
ok getting a domino's pizza ad literally after lani said "pizza" at 6:59 its actually wild, algorithim working as intended i guess
Same advert and reaction here...
The most confusing about Xeno Trunks is that the story wants to have it both ways by making him be based on Future Trunks but also on Present Trunks role in GT
Like how for some reason he can fuse with the Xeno version of Goten which makes no sense when you think about it, like where did he even come from? Same goes for those versions of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Pan
And is funny how he gets Super Saiyan God while the others get Super Saiyan 4
The whole deal about the Gods of Destruction is even dumber because they should all know who Toki Toki is, Xenoverse even makes a point that Whis would stop Beerus from destroying the whole place when he sees that the bird layed an egg
A bit of a fact on xeno trunks, from what I've red he was going to actually get ss4...however the thing that made them choose ssg instead was because the creators couldn't decide on the hair color for the form (the colors being black or purple).....which is just so...SOOOOO fucking wild.
Listen, Beerus was just embracing his feline instincts and was chasing after a bird.
I like a good Umbreon hoodie as much as the next nerd, but as soon as Majin Salsa appeared I’m like “what are we doing here??”
F in the chat for fan base of Super Android 17.
for HFIL you should totally make a "Majin Salsa" commercial that plays on idk Raditz' TV or something either in the background or while they're watching it for whatever reason or purpose.
Mechikabura is probably the biggest powercreep in the series. He can turn allies into Demon Gods- the same title as *Demigra*
Given I only ever see people take one bite and then crush it, I assume the fruit of the Tree of Power tastes like durian smells.
Nice touch on the Dave Filoni reference then playing Mando's theme lol
12:50 no idea if there's a name for it, but it does happen sometimes. For instance in Fairy Tail when they were fighting another guild (no spoilers), the respective guilds' strongest wizards had to face off against each other, leading to above-average level fight but the protagonist and his party still had something to do.
28:17 jesus lani chill bro. i mean i get it but chill, ur hand will thank u. also shoutout to the mahogany table. AND NOT JUST ANY MAHOGANY-other commenters can finish the rest.
"Silver's got mad hax"
Nah, Archie Sonic is just a freaking TRIP
2:48 Honestly I enjoy whenever they bring up Death Battle, especially with how long they've been working with them ever since Vegeta vs Shadow.
Also side note/spoiler for Trunks vs Silver: It was Dragon Ball Heroes Trunks vs Archie Comics Silver, basically they're most powerful and bullshit versions of themselves. Because if it was canon Future Trunks vs Silver, Silver gets SO washed.
its over janemba you're not dealing with the average super sayian 4 warrior anymore
The two just stopping for a second to talk about the Archie Silver vs. Xeno Trunks for like twenty seconds is pretty funny
7:52 it do be feeling like an early 2010's Dragonball fanart. "SSJ 1-100 compilation."
0:58 you finally on season 2
I'm glad Kaiser is gonna read the Manga, it honestly is WAY better.
There's a reason this is a PROMOTIONAL anime.
You can do infinite universes right, Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter's long earth series does it, although there's the caveat that humanity only evolved on 1 earth
"This feels like a parody of Dragonball" perfectly sums this up.
And not a good parody made by fans!
12:00 The one that applies most specifically to this situation is Deus Exit Machina, whose current page quote, funnily enough, is the line Cell says to Vegeta right before he breaks his back.
Nick's full-force table punch at the end freaked me out for a moment. Like, I know he's a strong guy, but that's how you break your hand if you're not careful.
The fact that he apparently _dented_ the table made it even worse.
The Dr Wheelo design makes me think "Evil Old Julius Belmont".
For as many times as Turles has reappeared over the years and as many fruit he's consumed, it's weird he's never gone super saiyan. Beyond that I think it's even weird how little they do with Raditz. You'd think Goku's biological brother would have more impact on the greater story than his singular appearance.
6:09 No that's just the natural cat instincts of Beerus and Champa kicking in and all the other's went with it
4:00
Meanwhile in Iron Man 2...
Whiplash: I want my bird. I want MY BIRD!
I believe a collection of multiverses is a Megaverse, alternatively Zeno's palace being a universe with around 12 microverses or a collection of 12 universes and a Macroverse to contain them all within, but if Universe 6 and Co all have tine travelling shenanigans included the way Universe 7 has multiple Trunks it would qualify as a bigger collection of multiverses into a Megaverse
2:55 *Archie Silver has mad hax. As all Archie Sonic does.
It’s okay Scott, I watched your stuff in elementary school with my cousin, I’m graduating college this year!
then what's the deal with that 1987?
28:31 all I could thing of was Lani's vegeta saying "Ha take that. You are no match for my power"
I just realised watching this that masako also voices Turles. That's silly. He's not even from the son family.
Tbf Masako's Goku voice is super unique, so you can't really pull the confusing Turles for Goku thing off properly without her
I'm sure Dragon Ball fans have discussed this to death from every angle, but do we know for a fact that Turles isn't an illegitimate child of Bardock?
@@StevenUlyssesPerhero by all accounts he should be cause how tf does some rando space pirate look more like his kid than raditz?!
@@revol4372 ...Because Raditz has his mom's hair...
I haven't watched Heroes, but I've read the wiki a little and I've been bristling with anticipation for Putine's arrival.
The only other characters with ice powers in this canon have been Eis Shenron from GT and Ebifurya from World's Strongest, so she's the first ice character we've had in the anime in TWENTY THREE YEARS!!
(or eighteen if you include her first appearance in the game)
21:46 Never change Lani, never change
11:25 _sigh..._ I _really_ wish people would be more openminded about the concept of a multiverse, I *hate* the "Oh, well now none of it matters!" argument. Obviously, everyone's got their own tastes and thresholds for investment, and if multiple/infinite timelines breaks yours, okay, fair enough- but it doesn't _have_ to. Looking at familiar concepts through new lenses, which a multiverse facilitates nicely, can be a lot of fun and really interesting, and it makes me sad and irritable that so many people dismiss the concept out of hand.
i still fail to see how a multiverse makes nothing matter in the first place. if nothing matters, it's always not mattered, a multiverse didn't change that. if things matter, they'll always matter.
Them recounting this show always sounds like a fever dream
Fun Fact: The entirety of the Dragon Ball Franchise has people getting punched, & having them fly in the opposite direction. I caught that a long time ago, & found it to be a unique animation choice
I'm gonna watch this instead of doing a hobby
Wheelo was a genuine shock to me when watching the show myself.
I’m proud to say I was the one who showed Lani, Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker. I wish he archived the stream because my favorite part of his reactions were him constantly screaming
“WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!”
The most entertained I’ve ever been from a twitch donation and a very humorous time during Covid lockdown during the holidays. It’s so great they even referenced the form in their DBCember with Lani’s little “what?” Joke during the top 10 transformations.
I saw the title and thought, "Dragonball Bullshit". nice to know we're on the same wavelength.
28:19 Lani I think you scared Kaiser for a moment there, I could see his spirit leave his body.
Now I can't get the image out of my head of Turles chomping on a piece of the fruit, winding up a big punch and yelling "FRUIT PUUUUUUNCH!!" as he decks someone in the face.
5:12 This entire interaction was funny to me solely bc of how Lani stares at Kaiser
"It's okay when the woman's older"
So Salsa and Putine were from the Dark Demon Realm saga, former allies of Mechikabura, along Gravy, Demigra, Shroom, Towa and Mira. Salsa was blindly loyal to Mechikabura, while Putine is well known of stabbing peope to back, and was with Gravy old ally of Demigra.
There is in fact a name for the "keeping the powerful guy out of the picture" trope! Deus Exit Machina
of course there is
They had to do it with Goku a lot in DBZ and now Beerus is getting that treatment
When I first started watching heroes and a friend asked me what did I think of it. What I told him was "What ever you want to see in dragon ball you get it, but that's all you're getting".
So at some point in Super I think they revealed that each "opposite" universe in their universe tree is a sort of mirror. SO 6 and 7 are very similar. 5 and 8 are similar, 4 and 9, etc? That's off of memory so I may be a little off base, but yeah. I agree with Kaiser that it's kinda neat having TOTALLY different universes for the most part.
13:24 Wheelo got jacked
0:10
pretty much everyone's reaction when the time patroler shows up and defeats the main villain they've been training the past year to defeat
turles is the standout character for me here, fu needed him for his EVIL ENERGY ABSORBING TREE GROWING KNOWLEDGE
The human form of dr wheelo look kinda cool
11:30 that’s about how everybody felt when they played Bayonetta 3.
so the funny thing is despite seeing that goten does have the GT design. time patroller trunks is in fact not from GT. he actually does come from the Z timeline. he just gets picked up by the supreme kai of time sometime between Z and super. i assume before his own buu saga
They really should do an abridged Dragon Ball Heroes series on the style of Kai. Just a bunch of gags one after another, like the pizza joke Lani made
10:21 Ok, but that Mandalorian whistle makes that sword draw way cooler than it has a right to be
For me when my stories feature infinite universes and timelines I acknowledge that nothing DOES matter. BUT it is about making things matter IN SPITE of infinity.
It's like acknowledging that the universe is infinitely large and expanding yet still having first world problems
To be honest the idea that "Infinite Multiverses = Why should I care about these characters" just doesn't make sense to me. Like It's just a thought process that I cannot fathom at all.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Puddin and Dumplin showed up.
28:28 the rage punch against the table 😂😂
Y'know. Kaiser went pretty quickly from "you can't make me read the manga" to "I might even read the manga, and also I'm a Hearts stan."
He's absolutely secretly loving this bullshit.
7:52 looks like the fake DBZ toys I’d find in the swap meet when I was a kid.
10:19 "He's the Dave Filoni of Dragon Ball."
**Mando noise**
oh another fun thing. this storyline actually is a DIRECT tie in from the dragonball heroes manga AND games. like that starting bit was the story u played in the actual arcarde game. and the demons like salsa and putine that show up are characters in those games
Anyone else love Goku and Vegeta's outfits at 2:01?
All the outfits in that moment are fire
6:58 "Why would we stop all because if foo- hold up... This, this? This is bussin"