I don’t think the video takes into account peoples inner drive. I know so many people who are extremely intelligent but haven’t accomplished anything because mentally they don’t have any resilience. And I know plenty of not so intelligent people based on the education system who’ve accomplished a lot because they’re passionate about their field and driven the continuously work at it.
Interesting indeed. I also know ‘clever’ people that have quit their ‘good’ job due to stresses to work in a shop etc - and are very happy now. Clearly a lot enjoyment for some people to work in a role where you don’t have to think as much - but obvs less financial reward. Think at some levels the difference of a stressful admin job paying 30k there’s argument to move to an easier job paying 5/10k less.
I would be careful seeing this view as black and white. I think this type of view can also cause increased imposter syndrome as well as looking down on those who think differently or suffer from a mental health issue such as anxiety or depression. Whilst I'm no psychologist I have been a teacher and while you do have students who pick things up quicker than others by far the greatest difference i saw was how well they were empowered. I'm my view we should be careful putting ourselves in boxes based on one variable. We don't function that way
Would you consider doing a video on other routes to becoming a financial analyst or other more creative and forward thinking roles , rather than joining a big accounting firm and doing exams for 3 years?
I find it a weird avenue of thinking. If a job is demanding, you need to investigate and rectify the root causes that is causing you to be incompetent at the work you perform and not per se vice versa. If you were not qualified enough for it, you would not be in the current position you are and would most likely fail any intelligence test and/or interviews. I am myself a opponent of the nature school of thought that Jordan Peterson adheres to. A clear example would be how he stresses that you need to be stress tolerant for work. Yes some people perhaps have that a bit easier going than others, however there are dozens of ways nowadays to make yourself a lot more better in that (i.e. physical exercise and/or not planning your entire agenda to the max).
You can't improve your intelligence but you can practice the psychometric tests. Some people really struggle with a lot more of a workload than others. I'm not convinced anyone could just decide they will somehow mold themselves to deal with High stress environments either.
I just quit my job as auditor in Big 4 2 weeks ago. Honestly, many people including manager, audit clients and random people think I'm smart/clever because I understand and learn things quickly and know how to present in interview to earn the jobs. But as a senior year 2 in Big 4, I think the stress level is way too high for me, it makes me to think over & over again that if I'm just not good enough for the job. The job actually depressed me in a way that I was reluctant to see my friends and have relaxing times, because my mind would force me to work/ or to think that, if I have leisure time now I wouldn't be able to finish the work assigned. The stress led me to a stage where I couldnt focus on work since I was too tired but at the same time could not relax in off hours. Many of my colleagues and friends still think I am smart and hard working enough for the job but indeed only me myself would know that my intelligence in terms of stress tolerance is just not enough to continue as a senior auditor so I quit my job and trying to move on now. I think IQ decides if you could to handle the work (ability), but stress tolerance will decide if you would be able to work (mentally).
I used that strategy and am now in a job that I love to the point it doesn't feel like work. For me it's fun and I get paid for doing what I enjoy. I love cleaning and making things look shiny so my job is perfect for me as I work as a kitchen porter. Lots of things to clean and lots of stainless steel to shine. I don't consider it to be a low IQ job whereas there are people out there who do consider it to be a low IQ job. I don't want to be a Chef as it's more stressful. Yes they get more money than a KP but often they work double shifts and can work 70 hours or more per week. I enjoy just working middle shifts, 40 hours per week. I do find it annoying though when people assume that if you have a mental illness that you are stupid and have a low IQ.
I've met you and I know people who have worked with you. And no, you weren't smart enough to stick it out. I know for a fact you jumped before you knew you were about to get kicked out.
Seems harsh. Many different kinds of intelligence, and presumably he has been in roles where commitment and conscientiousness are top of the tree of traits needed? I was pretty smart at school but recognise that environment was easy for me compared to others. Many people to whom I was in a different academic stratosphere to me I now consider much more intelligent than me from certain perspectives, and often in ways I wish I could be. I don't think the world of business and finance has developed to be as kind or rounded as that yet. If I were to be as judgemental as you seem to be, I'd wager it's because there's a lot of 2 dimensional dullards and psychopaths, who don't have the imagination, or emotional dexterity, to follow anything other than a purely logical grind of a career, which the brain probably won't even bother flashing before their eyes before it all fades to black.
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Incredibly thought provoking. Parts of this resonated heavily with me.
I don’t think the video takes into account peoples inner drive. I know so many people who are extremely intelligent but haven’t accomplished anything because mentally they don’t have any resilience. And I know plenty of not so intelligent people based on the education system who’ve accomplished a lot because they’re passionate about their field and driven the continuously work at it.
I've seen the video before, I'm sure Jordan Peterson mentions concienciousness/industriousness
Great video, whats odd is I remember watching the video before and wondering what you would think about it.
Nice time for a video from Paul, right before I finish applying for BDO's placement. ; )
Interesting indeed. I also know ‘clever’ people that have quit their ‘good’ job due to stresses to work in a shop etc - and are very happy now. Clearly a lot enjoyment for some people to work in a role where you don’t have to think as much - but obvs less financial reward. Think at some levels the difference of a stressful admin job paying 30k there’s argument to move to an easier job paying 5/10k less.
another great video. Thanks Paul
Great video. A lot of the insights in this video really resonated with me
I would be careful seeing this view as black and white. I think this type of view can also cause increased imposter syndrome as well as looking down on those who think differently or suffer from a mental health issue such as anxiety or depression. Whilst I'm no psychologist I have been a teacher and while you do have students who pick things up quicker than others by far the greatest difference i saw was how well they were empowered. I'm my view we should be careful putting ourselves in boxes based on one variable. We don't function that way
Would you consider doing a video on other routes to becoming a financial analyst or other more creative and forward thinking roles , rather than joining a big accounting firm and doing exams for 3 years?
What a fantastic video! Thanks for your sharing bro!
Great video. Loved the reaction video. More would be great.
great video, great rambling!
great video, keep them coming :)
great video! thanks
Interesting.
I find it a weird avenue of thinking. If a job is demanding, you need to investigate and rectify the root causes that is causing you to be incompetent at the work you perform and not per se vice versa. If you were not qualified enough for it, you would not be in the current position you are and would most likely fail any intelligence test and/or interviews.
I am myself a opponent of the nature school of thought that Jordan Peterson adheres to. A clear example would be how he stresses that you need to be stress tolerant for work. Yes some people perhaps have that a bit easier going than others, however there are dozens of ways nowadays to make yourself a lot more better in that (i.e. physical exercise and/or not planning your entire agenda to the max).
You can't improve your intelligence but you can practice the psychometric tests. Some people really struggle with a lot more of a workload than others.
I'm not convinced anyone could just decide they will somehow mold themselves to deal with High stress environments either.
I just quit my job as auditor in Big 4 2 weeks ago.
Honestly, many people including manager, audit clients and random people think I'm smart/clever because I understand and learn things quickly and know how to present in interview to earn the jobs. But as a senior year 2 in Big 4, I think the stress level is way too high for me, it makes me to think over & over again that if I'm just not good enough for the job. The job actually depressed me in a way that I was reluctant to see my friends and have relaxing times, because my mind would force me to work/ or to think that, if I have leisure time now I wouldn't be able to finish the work assigned. The stress led me to a stage where I couldnt focus on work since I was too tired but at the same time could not relax in off hours.
Many of my colleagues and friends still think I am smart and hard working enough for the job but indeed only me myself would know that my intelligence in terms of stress tolerance is just not enough to continue as a senior auditor so I quit my job and trying to move on now.
I think IQ decides if you could to handle the work (ability), but stress tolerance will decide if you would be able to work (mentally).
Where is is the evidence/ references?
Workout the sort the sort of of person you are and build a job around that
I used that strategy and am now in a job that I love to the point it doesn't feel like work. For me it's fun and I get paid for doing what I enjoy. I love cleaning and making things look shiny so my job is perfect for me as I work as a kitchen porter. Lots of things to clean and lots of stainless steel to shine. I don't consider it to be a low IQ job whereas there are people out there who do consider it to be a low IQ job. I don't want to be a Chef as it's more stressful. Yes they get more money than a KP but often they work double shifts and can work 70 hours or more per week. I enjoy just working middle shifts, 40 hours per week. I do find it annoying though when people assume that if you have a mental illness that you are stupid and have a low IQ.
Calm dow Peterson bro. What about apprenticeship??
I've met you and I know people who have worked with you. And no, you weren't smart enough to stick it out. I know for a fact you jumped before you knew you were about to get kicked out.
Seems harsh. Many different kinds of intelligence, and presumably he has been in roles where commitment and conscientiousness are top of the tree of traits needed? I was pretty smart at school but recognise that environment was easy for me compared to others. Many people to whom I was in a different academic stratosphere to me I now consider much more intelligent than me from certain perspectives, and often in ways I wish I could be. I don't think the world of business and finance has developed to be as kind or rounded as that yet. If I were to be as judgemental as you seem to be, I'd wager it's because there's a lot of 2 dimensional dullards and psychopaths, who don't have the imagination, or emotional dexterity, to follow anything other than a purely logical grind of a career, which the brain probably won't even bother flashing before their eyes before it all fades to black.
Are you speaking about Paul Harris?
Woow, and what satisfaction are you getting by pointing that out on his you tube channel? Are you just a bitter person!!