Thanks, this is a great guide, my, turbo doesn't burn oil but rather has just completely seized up solid. I'm replacing it with a larger TD04 instead though
The td04hl's are much much more reliable than the garrets, mine has 250k original miles and I recently took it out and it's still in good condition. I did it to swap the turbine housing to a short neck in order to use a king cobra pipe, and also ported the exhaust manifold connection as I have a aftermarket exhaust manifold with the opening basically matching the gasket.
If you do drop the bracket or nut @3:23 into the aluminum inlet trumpet pipe, a small magnet taped to a string will work to fish it out from where it is likely resting near the inlet turbo fan. (speaking from experience and wanted to pass on this hack in case!)
Yesterday i removed turbo same as on video and now im wondering... Does it make sens to change stock Garret to TD04hl? Will it do any better without new program? Now i have 217hp and 362nm after replacing fuel incjectors, fuel pump etc. Like im going to sell it to the end of 2024 and dont want spend to much money on it, made tune etc
09:14 "just replacing this will restore the car ..." - I'm interested to know if you replaced the turbo and then had a repeat problem? I ask, because bearing failure of that sort is usually caused by oil starvation, which in turn is often caused by the feed or return lines getting sludged up, which in turn is caused by infrequent oil changes and/or short journeys. Failure to resolve the root cause whilst changing the turbo usually results in a repeat problem soon after.
The car is still running fine. I heard through my research that is really common for the turbos in these to last 100k miles. I think it's simply wear and tear. I am really happy with it as quite reasonable priced service item. Keeps the beast running.
@@backofficeshow Sounds like you didn't have an oil supply issue then. Do you still have the failed turbo or is it gone now? Also, how do you get your avatar to spin like that?
penetrating oil, applied often for a week or two in advance ....loosens up ex nuts.. nicely. Oil feed lines carbon and sludge up BADLY. Especially so in the Bungled 2000 and Newer engines.
I was watching Seinfeld on tv and George was at Swedish Auto repair and the guy had a Saab mechanics outfit and a bunch of Saab things in the background. Thought was pretty cool there where also some Porsche posters probably becuad Jerry Seinfeld loves porches ands threw them in Haha
That turbo is properly knackered, i hope mine never ends up like this. Did you hear or feel any difference with the new turbo, would be nice to know how it feels when it's failing like that just to be prepared in case mine starts going like that.
Not really, just once I noticed a little cloud, like the briefiest black puff. 10 miles later, no oil in the engine! So really there was no warning at all.
That's scary if it fails like that, although i had mine rebuilt and rebalanced so i hope it lasts. I did the rebuild myself with the eBay kit, which is why i'm a bit worried. :) Spotting a failure like this early on can save a load of cash, which i don't really have much of since my SAAB rebuild :D
+Three A difference in what way? If yours is broken then it will be a good replacement, but if yours is fine then I doubt any significant gains in replacing it
mines broken smoked down the road this morning . i only ask because of the sports mode on the se which makes more power . Would it cause the base mode replacement wear out ? last question is yours an se 9-3 and is it still running . Thanks for the great video an quick reply
When you own a SAAB 9-5 its important to fill up new oil often. Especially of the car is produced up to year 2006 I believe. Otherwise the Turbo Will be dameged
+BlastReadingSeries If you can get to them you may as well, but if you can get the turbo out without then it's also not a problem as they do not take much torque to undo.
Wow ! I expected changing a turbo to be a huge job , only for the experienced mechanic. But this really looks like it takes ten minutes to take it out if the bolts come out.
There is always the risk that bits and pieces got into the engine, oil in the intercooler etc etc, but I say for the money do the swap, turn the key, and hope for the best 😁
Currently have a small amount of smoke after a cold start with my B205E 9-3, fearing my GT17 might also be in the process of blowing a seal. Did you have a similar experience before it failed badly?
backofficeshow surprised it happened so young in its life. I believe the garett was known for this, the Mitsubishi turbos on the Aeros last much longer.
Could be, I hear these turbos are rated to 100k so it's about right. I guess there are a whole load of other factors that come into play. Either way, it's a small cost for that many miles
I guess if you are checking to see if you are using oil, just check at the same temperature each time 😂 That being said I think I usually do cold as it gives time for the oil to settle in the sump. Hope it helps!
Saab wis says to check the oil hot. Long drive. Have sit on level ground not running for 5 minutes. Pull dipstick, wipe it off. Put back in. Check oil level.
I have done it 3 times on various 9-5s. Trust me it really pays off to remove the cooling fans.
Thanks, this is a great guide, my, turbo doesn't burn oil but rather has just completely seized up solid.
I'm replacing it with a larger TD04 instead though
The td04hl's are much much more reliable than the garrets, mine has 250k original miles and I recently took it out and it's still in good condition. I did it to swap the turbine housing to a short neck in order to use a king cobra pipe, and also ported the exhaust manifold connection as I have a aftermarket exhaust manifold with the opening basically matching the gasket.
If you do drop the bracket or nut @3:23 into the aluminum inlet trumpet pipe, a small magnet taped to a string will work to fish it out from where it is likely resting near the inlet turbo fan. (speaking from experience and wanted to pass on this hack in case!)
I hope someone gets to use this advice over the hassle of dismantling things unnecessarily 😁
There certainly are a lot of fiddly nuts on this beasty!
you have to remove the pipe from the turbo anyway, so you will find it if you do drop it.
The engine bay looks so clean
+S2Viss I like to keep it that way, saves me getting dirty when working on them 😂 also they are really well made and tend to keep the dirt out.
When i did this swap i went from a garrett to a tdo4hl 19t .only extra bit of kit i needed was the oil lines for the td04
Swine hound productions is this turbo better than stock as in power gains? I
Thanks for both videos. Gave me a lot of knowledge hut to change the turbo. Thank you very much
Yesterday i removed turbo same as on video and now im wondering... Does it make sens to change stock Garret to TD04hl? Will it do any better without new program? Now i have 217hp and 362nm after replacing fuel incjectors, fuel pump etc. Like im going to sell it to the end of 2024 and dont want spend to much money on it, made tune etc
09:14 "just replacing this will restore the car ..." - I'm interested to know if you replaced the turbo and then had a repeat problem?
I ask, because bearing failure of that sort is usually caused by oil starvation, which in turn is often caused by the feed or return lines getting sludged up, which in turn is caused by infrequent oil changes and/or short journeys. Failure to resolve the root cause whilst changing the turbo usually results in a repeat problem soon after.
The car is still running fine. I heard through my research that is really common for the turbos in these to last 100k miles. I think it's simply wear and tear. I am really happy with it as quite reasonable priced service item. Keeps the beast running.
@@backofficeshow Sounds like you didn't have an oil supply issue then.
Do you still have the failed turbo or is it gone now?
Also, how do you get your avatar to spin like that?
Where do you get a new the lock for the bypass at 3:20? I have Lost my some times go xd
If that pipe that pumps air into the turbo is not joined correctly using that v-band would that cause an evap leak? P0455?
penetrating oil, applied often for a week or two in advance ....loosens up ex nuts.. nicely.
Oil feed lines carbon and sludge up BADLY. Especially so in the Bungled 2000 and Newer engines.
I was watching Seinfeld on tv and George was at Swedish Auto repair and the guy had a Saab mechanics outfit and a bunch of Saab things in the background. Thought was pretty cool there where also some Porsche posters probably becuad Jerry Seinfeld loves porches ands threw them in Haha
+Ganjulation I feel obligated to watch this!!
+The Backoffice I'm not sure the episode but George is upset how the Saab tech ate his twix candy bar Haha.
+Ganjulation 😂
Your voice is just like Petrol Ped lol
You made it look easy, especially with those crap gloves lol
Rule #1: Love the glove
That turbo is properly knackered, i hope mine never ends up like this.
Did you hear or feel any difference with the new turbo, would be nice to know how it feels when it's failing like that just to be prepared in case mine starts going like that.
Not really, just once I noticed a little cloud, like the briefiest black puff. 10 miles later, no oil in the engine! So really there was no warning at all.
That's scary if it fails like that, although i had mine rebuilt and rebalanced so i hope it lasts.
I did the rebuild myself with the eBay kit, which is why i'm a bit worried. :)
Spotting a failure like this early on can save a load of cash, which i don't really have much of since my SAAB rebuild :D
+Poptart McJelly Ha ha, let's see. I expect the Chinese one to outlive the car now. It's well over 100k
My '96 NG900 has done just shy of 300k kilometers and it's still kicking, so unless you crash your SAAB it won't be stopping anytime soon :)
Poptart McJelly It's not getting much use at the moment, too many cars to choose from. I might take it out for a spin tomorrow 😂
Hey i have a 2001 saab 9-3 se hight output turbo b205r . will it make a difference if i order it from max speeding rods?
+Three A difference in what way? If yours is broken then it will be a good replacement, but if yours is fine then I doubt any significant gains in replacing it
mines broken smoked down the road this morning . i only ask because of the sports mode on the se which makes more power . Would it cause the base mode replacement wear out ? last question is yours an se 9-3 and is it still running . Thanks for the great video an quick reply
Three I doubt the turbo is any different in specification unless it's a bigger one. Just get a like for like replacement and I'm sure it will be fine.
When you own a SAAB 9-5 its important to fill up new oil often. Especially of the car is produced up to year 2006 I believe. Otherwise the Turbo Will be dameged
Thank u
Welcome
Shouldn't the banjo bolts be cracked loose before taking the turbo off the manifold???
+BlastReadingSeries If you can get to them you may as well, but if you can get the turbo out without then it's also not a problem as they do not take much torque to undo.
Nice. Where did you get your blue roll dispenser!
I think I ordered it from CPC
backofficeshow thanks! What size rolls does it take do you know?
No idea - the big blue ones? 😂
backofficeshow lol
Wow ! I expected changing a turbo to be a huge job , only for the experienced mechanic. But this really looks like it takes ten minutes to take it out if the bolts come out.
It's nothing, for a big job I'd say changing a gudgeon pin would be worse 😁
I was always so scared of having to replace the turbo. But now I'm not. Thanks.
There is always the risk that bits and pieces got into the engine, oil in the intercooler etc etc, but I say for the money do the swap, turn the key, and hope for the best 😁
Where do the metal shavings from the turbo blades go? into the oil filter?
+mark warnberg yes, you got it. Some into the filter some ground so fine into the oil itself. Gives the oil a shimmery glittery look.
Depends on what side of the turbo. If it's the exhaust side. They get stuck in the catalytic converter
Currently have a small amount of smoke after a cold start with my B205E 9-3, fearing my GT17 might also be in the process of blowing a seal. Did you have a similar experience before it failed badly?
That is just normal Cold starting smoke
@@Comrade420_ it's been a year haha, my turbo turned out to be broken, wobbly shaft.
@@Clear_Ski3s yep mines broken too and i can't afford a new one :(
@@Comrade420_ maybe you can try a Chinese turbo to save money? Mine wasn't genuine either and it has been working perfectly for half the money :)
@@Clear_Ski3s yeah that could actually work, i will try looking for one
What size is the banjo bolts for the return /feed lines
www.neobrothers.co.uk/banjo-bolt--washer-set-saab-9-3-00-02--9-5-98-09-td04-8549-p.asp not sure but maybe you can get the info from the part numbers
Will there be leaking oil when i remove the turbo?
Almost definitely
@@backofficeshow oh
It shouldn't be a lot, bit a bit, a few drips etc
@@backofficeshow thank god, i thought it was going to be an oil bath!
What year is this? and at what milage did this happen?
+Sean Hinkley 2007 model, happened around 103,000 miles
backofficeshow surprised it happened so young in its life. I believe the garett was known for this, the Mitsubishi turbos on the Aeros last much longer.
Could be, I hear these turbos are rated to 100k so it's about right. I guess there are a whole load of other factors that come into play. Either way, it's a small cost for that many miles
I have the 2007 lol. With almost 170K miles.
Do I check the oil cold or warm while determining if I have been burning excessive oil through the turbo being bad? Sorry! I am just a girl! Lol!
I guess if you are checking to see if you are using oil, just check at the same temperature each time 😂
That being said I think I usually do cold as it gives time for the oil to settle in the sump.
Hope it helps!
Saab wis says to check the oil hot. Long drive. Have sit on level ground not running for 5 minutes. Pull dipstick, wipe it off. Put back in. Check oil level.
part 2?
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And i thought my turbo was leaking