Recently did a 1200km trip, both directions, with zero "influencers" in the areas. still worked fine. Its funny those articles that forget about the rest of the world.
I think it's more those of us who watch these videos, but have completely different experiences with the same versions. Highway trips? Maybe it can mostly do those. Around town, the super dangerous and illegal moves just kept accumulating, in utterly routine situations. People judge what they see in real life, over what they watch on RUclips.
Speaking as part of the 'rest of the world', here in Australia I paid for FSD five years ago, still have nothing and have just discovered HW3 has reached its limits, 12.5 can't run on it and they are not going to upgrade the hardware.
The hardest part right now seems to be the final leg of the drive, where it reaches the destination, but can't find where exactly to stop, especially in parking lots. Reverse is going to literally add a whole new dimension to FSD. Can't wait to see those videos.
One tip that helps finish the final leg is to pinch into the destination on the map and place where you want to park when you zoom in. It works pretty well in a large parking lot but doesn't help with driveways.
In my experience of your channel, of the videos I've watched this one ticks all the boxes for me in terms of what an FSD video should be like. The "If I was driving I would have ..." are so much more toned down, you didn't interfere with the car's decision making when "stuck". Your commentary was on point. I know this is my 3rd comment but really, well done!
Been watching videos from multiple you tube channels for years, and this is the first time I've seen fsd make decisions on a consistent basis that implies it now understands what it's doing and is not merely mindless trained algorithms - I know that's what it is, but the point is there's complex behaviour that reflects sophisticated comprehension, and it's significant.
I believe some of the FSD mistakes are from FSD learning from aggressive drivers or from people doing illegal moves, it’s like a kid learning from a bad parent, that turn at 5:29 is definitely something I would do if I’m in the wrong lane.
It's super impressive 12.5. I'm still on 12.3.6 with HW3 and really looking forward to this. I'm pretty sure based on all the videos I've been seeing this will be the one to go wide, it seems very very good and definitely a candidate for release
6:20 FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! Finally you just sat back and let the car figure it out! that's what testing and experimentation is all about! Well-deserved KUDOS!
@@bearcubdaycare Running red light wasn't unsafe in that situation but probably not preferable. But what's very important that car understands it's surroundings. It knows when to "break" the law safely. Let's say red right catches you at wrong moment yeah you will break the law but at the same time it's way better than slamming the brakes cause somebody might rear end you
What can I say, we have been on a multi week road trip and have covered nearly 5K miles with 99% using FSD. Mostly 12.3.6 but the last two days have been on 12.5. The difference is night and day. 12.5 and I are getting to know each other so todays drive was even better than yesterday. There have been a few critical disengagements but I can attribute the majority to the unpredictability of humans. Great update!
It's amazing that it can be so good and so bad at the same time. Attempting to turn in front of the oncoming vehicle after the construction was pretty bad.
I just got 12.5 and starting from a parking spot at work, it did appear to be stuck, I needed to goose it with accelerator. Otherwise it was better than 12.3.6 on smoothness on acceleration and breaking. At the stops it seemed impatient, with slight jolts forward while stopped. I was surprised to see it park on its own when it got to the office supply store. It did just fine. I've only been diving my new model Y for a few weeks while using the complementary FSDS, but I was impressed by the improvements in 12.5. And as far as I know, Tesla has not gone out of their way to fix problems with my drives because I have not reported the problems I've encountered with 12.3.6.
You can see the 17:26 noodle facing backwards for when the reverse is allowed. It’s like the net brain thought reverse but the actionable shifting isn’t allowed yet.
Im loving 12.5 so far, only a couple issues today with signaling. It signaled left, then went straight at a 4 way stop. it also signaled left, then signaled right before taking an exit from highway. weird stuff.
It was definitely not confident in that last intersection. And it seemed like seriously wrong map data, because it never did anything like that before. And the miles between disengagements isn't relevant here, because this was a stress test. If you are not messing with it then it can drive hundreds of miles safely, if not thousands.
As someone who is considering getting a Tesla with FSD in the future, I like that you've shown the good and the bad. I'm just waiting for a few more things to get ironed out and then I'm probably selling my current 20 year old car and getting a Tesla.
I have noticed significant improvements with 12.5 namely smoother turning and braking. However it has blown through red lights on me twice late by 2 seconds. I was watching cross traffic and just let FSD do it's thing.
very interesting. What I'll say is that blowing through a red light is better than doing something crazy that puts other cars in danger. You see it knows "it's clear" so there should be no collision danger. The reality of driving is that weird stuff happens and you have to get yourself out of it with the least worst decision.
5:45 funny that it just crossed the intersection on red like a new yorker :) 20:45 funky intersection and funky ped xing red lights behind it. Wonder if it would know how to handle that, I guess it would just react to people more than the lights, maybe. 21:48 when hairy met sully pants :) slightly sketch. And quite interesting it gave up the second time which must mean it has local memory aka bad memories. Maybe they drop a disengagement digest on the map that disturbs its normal behavior. It doesn't understand what it did wrong but remembers that it was wrong. And the penalty on its behavior got it into a novel situation prompting other problematic actions. Interesting. Good tests.
When I saw that, I was thinking, well if its safe... Then I was like, what happens in the future when all cars are self driving? Will we even HAVE traffic lights anymore?
Challenging routes for FSD 12.5 please!! Love it WOW. Their vision of Robotaxi will come to life guaranteed. By the time Robotaxi's are produced in masses and ready to hit the streets, FSD will be ready... They can even over-optimize in the cities they'd like to launch the first batch of manufactured robotaxis! They'll have YEARS ahead of any other major competitor, crazy.
@@xiaofengxiaofengxiaofengxi4651 There's no Robotaxi yet, they're working on it. I can use FSD in ANY city, ANY street in Canada but I've never heard of ANYONE else around here who does this. USA has Waymo in some streets but that's largely unknown in the world. Tesla will be years ahead with FSD just like they are with Superchargers. Just like SpaceX is with landing back etc. :)
@@xiaofengxiaofengxiaofengxi4651 LMAO who is ahead of Tesla for self-driving in Quebec City where I live? It's litererally the only car that gets me around without touching the wheel.
12.5 on my Refresh M3 has been so good, I had some small issues with the previous versions, where the car would hesitate to merge into the left turn lane, or try to slow down at flashing yellow lights. On 12.5 it has been doing both of these things perfectly!
I mean your route seems to be much more like 12.3 or 12.4 than all other influencers experience with 12.5. I do think there is something to the whole tesla training to optimize for VIP's routes. Really appreciate your testing this.
I received FSD 12.5 on July 23rd and still has speed limits errors from 25 mph city street to 40 mph highway without a sign stays at 25 mph. Noticed a regression (speeding up instead of slowing down with approaching traffic from behind) when merging from a U-Turn on a highway to cross two lanes of high-speed traffic to take an exit on the right about 1K feet away. Takes too long to reach or reduce speed after encountering speed limit signs.
You’d still be downright frightened in the DFW area. Maps have been updated- still a total nightmare experience. Highway exit to frontage road to 3-4 lane changes to a right hand turn- Nope. 3 lane 4 way stop signs -nope
The fact that the reporter believes this makes me question if their research included machine learning. Deep learning (ML with lots of layers), is literally the solution to problems that require generalization which hand coded (the replaced 300k lines of C++) can’t handle.
Whoever thinks Tesla only trains influencer routes is drinking copious amounts of O'Dowd's brew! 😉 I was pretty vocal about how I felt like 12.4.3 was a big step backward from 12.3.6. But 12.5 is INCREDIBLE! It has fixed EVERY single problem I was having with 12.4.3 and is smoother than any prior version. They could still turn the screws a little on the speed control but that's a nit pick.
At 17:10 the car REALLY wants to switch to reverse to do a 3 point turn. The planner projects out behind the car before it inches forward, so it’s like the car doesn’t realize it was blocked from switching to reverse and tried to accelerate backwards only to be confused. It also explains a little bit of interesting map routing choices if it is now taking turning around into consideration
Always great to see Ypsilanti! Tesla might be tweaking for 'Influencers' but it can't be that much. I've driven FSD all over the U.S., use it daily for four years. It works pretty much the same everywhere. It's not doing phony improvements. FSD has steadily improved, but so long as we have to pay full attention, we are going to at first be wowed by the improvements, but then quickly get used to them.... then get back to being annoyed by the things that still need to be improved. When we can finally turn it on and take a nap, like a good Uber driver, so long as it's safe, we'll stop nitpicking. (If I can nap or do something else, then I won't mind my trip takes a bit longer, or that my Tesla just changed to a slower lane.) The features and fixes I'd like to see are: 1. Auto park at the Supercharger. It's not a big deal, but it should've been done a long time ago. 2. Make the maps better, more street names, remember my last inputs. In my driveway I'll enter 'Home Depot', then wait, wait... it drops it and doesn't remember what I'd just entered. Often I have to enter an address or location three times, one letter at a time.... 3. Upgrades for old computers. My Tesla Model Y is 2020. Some on screen functions have slowed to a crawl. I keep checking to see if I still have the monthly fee features. (Yep) Yet repeatedly I get, "Calculating ... without traffic information." Often I go to Google Maps. 4. Scolds. Enough already! Hire a psychologist, an efficiency expert. Number one cause of Scolds? having to fuss with the anti-intuitive screen, terrible map. I try to see my over all route and nothing ...nothing... nothing... now it starts to appear... but snap! I'm back see a single straight line for the next few miles. Have to do it all over again..... Scold! Also when I have to change a couple of lanes quickly because of traffic and needing to cross four lanes in the next mile? Don't start blaring at me while I'm processing my blind spots in the mirrors, making sure it's safe. It's cognitive overload at the wrong moment. 5. Road hazards. It's too long. FSD didn't even budge when there was a big black rock in the road. Took out the tire and wheel. Yeah, it's on me, but seriously. See something, anything, safe to move over? Move over. If it's safe, I will veer for flying plastic bags, out of habit to keep them from hot gluing to the catalytic converter. Better a dozen phantom brakings than a $1200 wheel and tire replacement. 6. Driver 'programming.' Shouldn't we be able to 'teach' our Teslas to "Stay out of the right lane on this street next to the parked cars near my home." It's far safer to be in lane one where no one is going to open a door. Maybe just a button. In this location, so long as it's safe, do this:" and then we drive in the lane we think is better. 7. Speed trap locations. I got dinged in a crummy small municipality in Maryland. The only reason I was there was to use the Supercharger. I got dinged for 31mph in a 25 zone, no cars or people anywhere. Road engineered for >40. Camera ticket. Nothing but a corrupt shakedown. Welcome to Maryland! This should be in the software like Red for traffic. Speed settings should automatically drop to the speed limit with a warning on the screen. I'd rather slow down where a speed trap used to be, or only occasionally is, then get dinged. Or avoid that mall and any part of that town completely. (I'd put some of this on Tesla Ideas, but I'll bet they're already there. When I get their emails they're usually about the 'idea' of a moderator to delete the second most common 'idea': generating power while driving .... These violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and the 1st law of don't be annoying. Which I'm probably being. )
See @AIDRIVR s latest video. He assumes the algorithm is already capable of reversing, but the actual reverse function for the FSD stack is locked. Hence it is creeping forward again and again because it thinks it switched to reverse but did not, realizes it, tries again, and so on.
Chris, a question: When you engage FSD, a notification pops up on the screen that say, in part, "Keep hands on the wheel". This is not an oversight on Tesla's part... FSD v12.x is still Level 2, and NHTSA wants that notification to appear, which means this version isn't "hands free". Sure, the steering wheel nag is gone because FSD can now see your eyes, but shouldn't all safety drivers keep their hands loosely on the wheel? After all, FSD is asking you to do this. Thanks!
That left turn you forced it into towards the end of the drive was really, really bad. They gotta fix whatever that issue was. The going through the left turn lane and then going straight is also really bad. Hoping they can get those issues sorted.
Weird that it sometimes realizes it needs to pull off the road to park at the destination. I have yet to experience this with any version of FSD, including 12.5. 12.5 has missed destinations if anything, in spite of the location being on the right, it just hangs out in the leftmost lane and doesn't bother trying to get to the right lane to get to the destination.
Love to hear similar feedback back. I too feel it’s more confident to MANY decisions and feel like many of the obstacles for robotaxi are melting away.
12:01 I have to say that having the screenshot button for accessibility would be great rather than disengaging and trying to think about what you need to say into the mic. It used to be available for everyone so what happened maybe all of this is for another video.
I have never posted anything online ever. We have had it since Sept 2019, so we have plenty of expierence with it. I doubt it's fine tuned for a certain amount of people given there still are so many differences in conditions, roads, etc.
Chris, when FSD does something illegal like dealing with that dead end and technically running a red light, wouldn't it help fix the issue if you disengaged so you can have the opportunity to record a VM to the FSD team saying what it did? This, in addition to hitting the camera button, should improve FSD. Sorry, I'm sensitive to cars running red lights because my mom was killed by someone doing that.
I feel like their priorities on based on the life threatening score, i.e. in a parking lot it's rare to have severe accidents, roads are more dangerous therefore they are just focusing on getting the dangerous part working as good as they can first, then polish the other details.
21:48 After passing the roadworks, does it have some kind of imperative to get back to the lane it was in now that it's reopened? Or is it scared the car behind is going to go barrelling into the back if it slows in the left lane and blocks traffic caught in the roadworks? Excellent test case anyway, and the FSD team must be glad for this kind of data (even easier for them to find since you tagged it with a voice report).
Having the chance to drive fsd 12.4 I would like you to have a camera facing the pedals as well as the forward looking camera. Talking from experience. The car suffers from getting the speeds wrong, to not accelerating in times needed to merge. Now from my perspective every time you use your foot to slow down ( rarely) or accelerate ( often) that's an intervention where you had to make a judgment call. So I would love to see with full transparency how often you are still " driving " the car.
Furthur more, I am also painfully aware of how poorly the car does in high density traffic, especially when switch lanes and merges. And God forbid it takes to long to merge, it will miss the onramp or other blunders. You talk about stress testing it. The do it in traffic time of getting off and on highways. Should be easy right😅
At 14:10, there are tons of people complain "FSD is not for me" because it's driving at speed limit, and there are also people who complain "FSD is not for me" because it's speed too much over speed limit. Everyone has their references and the double standards are hard.
11:05 you just need well defined yield rules that do not require you to stop. For example, traffic from the right has right of way. In the US the stop signs are treated a bit like that, but rather the first has right of way.
Can you do a video showing how you plan these routes and load them into the Tesla? I created a route in desktop Google, sent it to my phone and then shared it with the Tesla app, but the car just seemed to ignore it.
Dirty, I mean, Chris, the 12.5 feels way cool, but I found some odd regressions (non-critical though) that are even beyond 12.3.6. Basically, stopping on L-shaped roads, blinkers, fantom breaking. Weird stuff, but overall it seems more natural and a bit faster on some intersections. Hope then 12.5.x will bring some long overdue options.
I've checked, that's not an OpenStreetMap screwup. This is commercial data merged in by Mapbox. I've added the turn lanes to OSM, may this information in OSM will overwrite the commercial data on the next map update. :)
In the past you have expressed doubts as to whether FSD will ever be truly L5 RT ready. Do you still feel that way or do you now foresee a time you could put a blind person in the car and have it take them to a destination? Also, do you expect that when 12.5 is optimized for HW3 it should perform the same?
I like your drives with FSD. It gives me a better understanding of improvement from the previous version. I try to keep track of different scenarios, most interesting things are not been tested by early testers yet. My opinion of FSD 12.5 shows readiness, on a scale from 1 to 10: 1 - Not working, 3 - Working, not useful, 5 - Good, 9 - Like human, 10 - Better than human. 7 - Highway: Performs well, but not perfect(FSD11). 5 - Exit from Highway: Adequate, but requires more refinement, miss exist or change lane too late(FSD11). 7 - Change Lane: Generally effective, but occasional issues. 8 - Intersection: Handles most scenarios smoothly. 8 - Roundabouts: Navigate effectively, though not flawlessly. 4 - Parking Lots: Functional but can struggle with complexity. 3 - Parking on the Street: Needs better spot finding to avoid blocking traffic. 6 - Reverse Parking: Decent, but not consistently reliable. 2 - Gate: Needs significant improvement for reliability. 7 - Signal to Other Cars: Generally good, but improvements are needed. 7 - Left Turn: Handles most left turns well. 4 - Unprotected Turns: Often cautious or hesitant. 5 - Speed Bumps: Recognizes and slows down appropriately. 3 - Constructions on Road: Needs better detection and navigation. 4 - Road Blocks: Struggles to handle unexpected obstacles. 5 - Rain: Performs adequately, but not in heavy rain. 3 - Snow: Limited capability in snowy conditions. 5 - Fog: Manages light fog, and struggles with heavy fog. 4 - Other Cars Breaking Rules: Handles some scenarios, but not all. 7 - Pedestrians: Good at detecting and reacting. 5 - Other Road Vehicles: Adequate, but can be improved. 6 - Traffic Lights: Generally accurate, occasional misreads. 7 - Driving Smoothness: Mostly smooth, with minor jerkiness at times. 6 - Speed Limits: Adheres well, but sometimes slow to adjust. 3 - Emergency Vehicles: Not recognized can be improved. 5 - Supervision: Nice that no hands on the wheel are required. 1 - Front Parking: Major improvements are needed. 1 - Reverse in Street: Significant challenges remain. 1 - Actual Smart Summon(ASS): 1 - Self-park(Banish): My assessment is, of course, open for discussion, but this is my opinion based on the videos that have been published so far. If there haven't been any new updates, I base this on earlier versions. I assume my opinion may change in the future, but right now, I don't see any area where FSD is as good as or better than a human driver, even though it can sometimes surpass humans in certain scenarios.
There are many scenario when it's already much better than a human, like when a human drive under influence or when a human is distracted by phone or other things
@@StefanoFinocchiaro Don't get me wrong, I think FSD, especially version 12.5, is fantastic. However, it still makes silly mistakes in almost every situation. Although these mistakes are becoming less frequent, they still occur more often than with human drivers. For this reason, I still rate it below human drivers in all aspects. I really hope that, for example, supervision won't be needed on highways, demonstrating that it is consistently better than human drivers.
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2:50 - Apparently not so. According to the Stats app (which tracks FSD versions) it is on Model S, Model X, Model 3 and Model Y (2024.20.10). Though those may all be Hardware 4 cars. I have a 2021 Model S with Hardware 3 and have not gotten it. AI Driver said that they need some more "optimizations" before they roll it out to HW 3.
That’s all good but why does that tanker (53s in) have 60 wheels!!?? Do you ship liquid newton stars over there!!?? 🤯 In the UK the same tanker might have 18 wheels at most!!
This isn’t really a question of “influencer” only updates BUT / what about the fact that the “fleet” has another dimension which isn’t talked about enough… “Branch” versions seem to vary broadly AND each Branch variation has a difference in capabilities which isn’t made clear by Tesla. As an owner of a MYP, it’s becoming more and more clear that Tesla is purposely masking the differences between Branches. (Or at least not being upfront about this). Ex: my car was one of the thousands “stuck” on branch 8.x and wasn’t getting FSD updates for months behind what seems like every Influencer was presenting and even Analysts were talking about as “generally available”
I do not think they are purposely doing anything for influencers because my FSD on my newest Tesla is doing as good as the videos. What could be happening is they have videos also to review so they can actually target problems and I think they should if possible and hopefully use that to hopefully figure out how to solve other similar problems that they don't have video for. But, maybe we need more videos because I will say that for 6 years I have had issues in the exact same spot on that has been around since version 10 and is still there today. I have considered making videos of it but every time i think about it I am in the middle of something else and forget😅. As far as what they do for Elon...I mean he's the boss, so if it is possible to make his work better I'd do it 😅
Sweet! We have a trip coming up next week and I have been really hoping to get a good update. It came up yesterday for our car but I haven't had time to check it out.
It's always sunny weather in the FSD videos RUclips recommends, does FSD (12) work in the rain? My european autopilot gives up in heavier rain and just hands over.
You found some complex situations there. Overall it did fine, but I would still not release this to the public. I can’t wait for the basic autopilot and highway to be controlled by this new FSD software here in Europe (even though we won’t get FSD), but just to have the normal Autopilot stop and accelerate much more smooth. The old version 11 we have is so jerky.
i still think you need to switch the graph to interactions per mile (or per 100miles). The current graph is super misleading. Your current trip had 0 interactions so it should be 19/0 = infinite. But you can't graph that so you just put 19/1 = 19..... which makes it look like it performed worse than the 3 trips before it ..... even though you had 0 interactions. Also, if you just set 0 to 1 like that you can no longer tell the difference between 0 and 1.
Please correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t an “unprotected” left only when there is no traffic control device (sign or light) controlling the cross traffic? See Chuck’s left for reference.
Best video to date for this new FSD release. Loved the, 'Influencer' comment, but if you quack like a duck and drive like a duck, one might be a Influencer.... and you can bet that the FSD team is watching your drives. The question is, are they using your drives to improve FSD for everyone, answer is most likely YES. Now, I still see horrible speed consistency and PD tickets will be issued for 10+ over, especially in 25 mph posted speed zones, school zones, construction areas, end of story! Handling jerky highway speed off ramps and staying in merge lanes till the end when cars are present are a D- score IMHO (would loves to see a separate video devoted to these)... Again, glad you tested FSD 12.x in a new city. IMHO FSD 15.x in 2026 may be the release that has a capable/trustworthy 'Robotaxi' release!
Looks like versions after 12.3 are not available on older cars with the v3 computer. I sure hope they're going to offer free upgrades to long-time FSD owners>
Just amazing! Although it’s a little confused on the map two days in a row different location once yesterday it put the blinker too early and got confused and took a turn into the street before the one it supposed to turn in then today on my way to work it was going to completely miss the exit on the highway instead of putting the blinker on the right side to exit it put the blinker left and was trying to move out onto the highway. Weird but other than that just amazing smooth nice very well done Tesla.
I’m still having issues with FSD 12.5 where the speed doesn’t go up to the speed limit, even when the MAX is set to +5 or more over. Even after waiting a long time, I’ll have to manually accelerate to the wanted speed. It will hold it there and then it will eventually slow down. I don’t think I had this issue with 12.3.6.
Recently did a 1200km trip, both directions, with zero "influencers" in the areas. still worked fine. Its funny those articles that forget about the rest of the world.
How mamy intervention in 1200km?
I think it's more those of us who watch these videos, but have completely different experiences with the same versions. Highway trips? Maybe it can mostly do those. Around town, the super dangerous and illegal moves just kept accumulating, in utterly routine situations. People judge what they see in real life, over what they watch on RUclips.
Speaking as part of the 'rest of the world', here in Australia I paid for FSD five years ago, still have nothing and have just discovered HW3 has reached its limits, 12.5 can't run on it and they are not going to upgrade the hardware.
12.5 will run on HW3
In a update
“I’m in control.. you’re the one out of control. Don’t yell at me!,” 😂 🤣 😂 sounds like a disagreement with family.
22:25
Nice you show also the bad things. Thank you!
The hardest part right now seems to be the final leg of the drive, where it reaches the destination, but can't find where exactly to stop, especially in parking lots. Reverse is going to literally add a whole new dimension to FSD. Can't wait to see those videos.
One tip that helps finish the final leg is to pinch into the destination on the map and place where you want to park when you zoom in. It works pretty well in a large parking lot but doesn't help with driveways.
Upcoming updates should fix this. Parking will have a dedicated network.
In my experience of your channel, of the videos I've watched this one ticks all the boxes for me in terms of what an FSD video should be like. The "If I was driving I would have ..." are so much more toned down, you didn't interfere with the car's decision making when "stuck". Your commentary was on point.
I know this is my 3rd comment but really, well done!
Been watching videos from multiple you tube channels for years, and this is the first time I've seen fsd make decisions on a consistent basis that implies it now understands what it's doing and is not merely mindless trained algorithms - I know that's what it is, but the point is there's complex behaviour that reflects sophisticated comprehension, and it's significant.
this version is incredibly smooth!
I'm not anywhere near any content I have ever seen from a content creator. 12.5 is like magic. I am amazed.
I believe some of the FSD mistakes are from FSD learning from aggressive drivers or from people doing illegal moves, it’s like a kid learning from a bad parent, that turn at 5:29 is definitely something I would do if I’m in the wrong lane.
😂 the beginning of this drive is basically my morning commute! Good to see it at least handled that well!
It's super impressive 12.5. I'm still on 12.3.6 with HW3 and really looking forward to this. I'm pretty sure based on all the videos I've been seeing this will be the one to go wide, it seems very very good and definitely a candidate for release
You and me both with HW3! Hoping all goes well and they can push it to us soon.
You do see the graph at the end? Every version since 12.3.6 has been worse for him.
Will it get to HW3? Fingers crossed.
6:20 FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally you just sat back and let the car figure it out! that's what testing and experimentation is all about! Well-deserved KUDOS!
Well, maybe not on public streets. When the car tries to run a red light, disengage. Supervised, in other words he's the driver.
The thing is, although illegal, that move was made safely. It resolved it safely.
@@bearcubdaycare Running red light wasn't unsafe in that situation but probably not preferable. But what's very important that car understands it's surroundings. It knows when to "break" the law safely. Let's say red right catches you at wrong moment yeah you will break the law but at the same time it's way better than slamming the brakes cause somebody might rear end you
I just came down to San Luis Obispo for the X take over. Drove the last day of 429 miles on version 12.5 without touching the wheel. Amazing!
Did you say hi to me?!
What can I say, we have been on a multi week road trip and have covered nearly 5K miles with 99% using FSD. Mostly 12.3.6 but the last two days have been on 12.5. The difference is night and day. 12.5 and I are getting to know each other so todays drive was even better than yesterday. There have been a few critical disengagements but I can attribute the majority to the unpredictability of humans. Great update!
It's amazing that it can be so good and so bad at the same time. Attempting to turn in front of the oncoming vehicle after the construction was pretty bad.
I just got 12.5 and starting from a parking spot at work, it did appear to be stuck, I needed to goose it with accelerator. Otherwise it was better than 12.3.6 on smoothness on acceleration and breaking. At the stops it seemed impatient, with slight jolts forward while stopped. I was surprised to see it park on its own when it got to the office supply store. It did just fine. I've only been diving my new model Y for a few weeks while using the complementary FSDS, but I was impressed by the improvements in 12.5. And as far as I know, Tesla has not gone out of their way to fix problems with my drives because I have not reported the problems I've encountered with 12.3.6.
You can see the 17:26 noodle facing backwards for when the reverse is allowed. It’s like the net brain thought reverse but the actionable shifting isn’t allowed yet.
Im loving 12.5 so far, only a couple issues today with signaling. It signaled left, then went straight at a 4 way stop. it also signaled left, then signaled right before taking an exit from highway. weird stuff.
It's like ChatGPT. Very confident even when it's wrong. 5 miles between disengagements shows there is still a long way to go.
It was definitely not confident in that last intersection. And it seemed like seriously wrong map data, because it never did anything like that before.
And the miles between disengagements isn't relevant here, because this was a stress test. If you are not messing with it then it can drive hundreds of miles safely, if not thousands.
As someone who is considering getting a Tesla with FSD in the future, I like that you've shown the good and the bad. I'm just waiting for a few more things to get ironed out and then I'm probably selling my current 20 year old car and getting a Tesla.
The fact you let it make that move at 6:00 was insane.
I have noticed significant improvements with 12.5 namely smoother turning and braking. However it has blown through red lights on me twice late by 2 seconds. I was watching cross traffic and just let FSD do it's thing.
So impressive! When it can backup to get out of dead ends and make u-turns it will be next level again.
was looking forward for this
very interesting. What I'll say is that blowing through a red light is better than doing something crazy that puts other cars in danger. You see it knows "it's clear" so there should be no collision danger. The reality of driving is that weird stuff happens and you have to get yourself out of it with the least worst decision.
6:11 Wait it literally just ran a red light!?!?
5:45 funny that it just crossed the intersection on red like a new yorker :)
20:45 funky intersection and funky ped xing red lights behind it. Wonder if it would know how to handle that, I guess it would just react to people more than the lights, maybe.
21:48 when hairy met sully pants :) slightly sketch. And quite interesting it gave up the second time which must mean it has local memory aka bad memories. Maybe they drop a disengagement digest on the map that disturbs its normal behavior. It doesn't understand what it did wrong but remembers that it was wrong. And the penalty on its behavior got it into a novel situation prompting other problematic actions. Interesting. Good tests.
When I saw that, I was thinking, well if its safe... Then I was like, what happens in the future when all cars are self driving? Will we even HAVE traffic lights anymore?
Challenging routes for FSD 12.5 please!! Love it WOW. Their vision of Robotaxi will come to life guaranteed. By the time Robotaxi's are produced in masses and ready to hit the streets, FSD will be ready... They can even over-optimize in the cities they'd like to launch the first batch of manufactured robotaxis! They'll have YEARS ahead of any other major competitor, crazy.
The Tesla Model 3 was sold as a robotaxi. Hows that working out for you?
Do you think the competition, which is already ahead, stands still?
@@xiaofengxiaofengxiaofengxi4651 There's no Robotaxi yet, they're working on it. I can use FSD in ANY city, ANY street in Canada but I've never heard of ANYONE else around here who does this. USA has Waymo in some streets but that's largely unknown in the world. Tesla will be years ahead with FSD just like they are with Superchargers. Just like SpaceX is with landing back etc. :)
@@danypell2517 they said that the tesla model 3 would pay for itself by being a taxi. 5+ years ago Elon said so, why is this 5+ years late?
@@danypell2517 tesla isn't miles ahead with fsd lmao
@@xiaofengxiaofengxiaofengxi4651 LMAO who is ahead of Tesla for self-driving in Quebec City where I live? It's litererally the only car that gets me around without touching the wheel.
12.5 on my Refresh M3 has been so good, I had some small issues with the previous versions, where the car would hesitate to merge into the left turn lane, or try to slow down at flashing yellow lights. On 12.5 it has been doing both of these things perfectly!
I mean your route seems to be much more like 12.3 or 12.4 than all other influencers experience with 12.5. I do think there is something to the whole tesla training to optimize for VIP's routes. Really appreciate your testing this.
I received FSD 12.5 on July 23rd and still has speed limits errors from 25 mph city street to 40 mph highway without a sign stays at 25 mph. Noticed a regression (speeding up instead of slowing down with approaching traffic from behind) when merging from a U-Turn on a highway to cross two lanes of high-speed traffic to take an exit on the right about 1K feet away. Takes too long to reach or reduce speed after encountering speed limit signs.
You’d still be downright frightened in the DFW area. Maps have been updated- still a total nightmare experience. Highway exit to frontage road to 3-4 lane changes to a right hand turn- Nope.
3 lane 4 way stop signs -nope
The fact that the reporter believes this makes me question if their research included machine learning. Deep learning (ML with lots of layers), is literally the solution to problems that require generalization which hand coded (the replaced 300k lines of C++) can’t handle.
After seeing the parking, you can use FSD to start normally.
It seems that the smart car-hailing function will soon be launched.
Now there you go again getting my hopes up that it will be less than an intervention per mile where I live! 😃 I have a new M3 so hopefully soon!
0:59 funny interpretation of the truck 😄
Nevertheless this version is awesom!
Whoever thinks Tesla only trains influencer routes is drinking copious amounts of O'Dowd's brew! 😉 I was pretty vocal about how I felt like 12.4.3 was a big step backward from 12.3.6. But 12.5 is INCREDIBLE! It has fixed EVERY single problem I was having with 12.4.3 and is smoother than any prior version. They could still turn the screws a little on the speed control but that's a nit pick.
Now it's getting somewhere. That looked mostly great! Call me impressed.
You said Model 3 only. I have a Model S HW 4 and thankfully did receive the update 12.5 last week!😊
I like how when you're recording your feedback you refer to the car as a "you" 😂. When the AI overlords take over, you will be saved lol.
whoa those two last disengagement were bad
At 17:10 the car REALLY wants to switch to reverse to do a 3 point turn. The planner projects out behind the car before it inches forward, so it’s like the car doesn’t realize it was blocked from switching to reverse and tried to accelerate backwards only to be confused. It also explains a little bit of interesting map routing choices if it is now taking turning around into consideration
Always great to see Ypsilanti! Tesla might be tweaking for 'Influencers' but it can't be that much. I've driven FSD all over the U.S., use it daily for four years. It works pretty much the same everywhere.
It's not doing phony improvements. FSD has steadily improved, but so long as we have to pay full attention, we are going to at first be wowed by the improvements, but then quickly get used to them.... then get back to being annoyed by the things that still need to be improved. When we can finally turn it on and take a nap, like a good Uber driver, so long as it's safe, we'll stop nitpicking. (If I can nap or do something else, then I won't mind my trip takes a bit longer, or that my Tesla just changed to a slower lane.)
The features and fixes I'd like to see are:
1. Auto park at the Supercharger. It's not a big deal, but it should've been done a long time ago.
2. Make the maps better, more street names, remember my last inputs. In my driveway I'll enter 'Home Depot', then wait, wait... it drops it and doesn't remember what I'd just entered. Often I have to enter an address or location three times, one letter at a time....
3. Upgrades for old computers. My Tesla Model Y is 2020. Some on screen functions have slowed to a crawl. I keep checking to see if I still have the monthly fee features. (Yep) Yet repeatedly I get, "Calculating ... without traffic information." Often I go to Google Maps.
4. Scolds. Enough already! Hire a psychologist, an efficiency expert. Number one cause of Scolds? having to fuss with the anti-intuitive screen, terrible map. I try to see my over all route and nothing ...nothing... nothing... now it starts to appear... but snap! I'm back see a single straight line for the next few miles. Have to do it all over again..... Scold! Also when I have to change a couple of lanes quickly because of traffic and needing to cross four lanes in the next mile? Don't start blaring at me while I'm processing my blind spots in the mirrors, making sure it's safe. It's cognitive overload at the wrong moment.
5. Road hazards. It's too long. FSD didn't even budge when there was a big black rock in the road. Took out the tire and wheel. Yeah, it's on me, but seriously. See something, anything, safe to move over? Move over. If it's safe, I will veer for flying plastic bags, out of habit to keep them from hot gluing to the catalytic converter. Better a dozen phantom brakings than a $1200 wheel and tire replacement.
6. Driver 'programming.' Shouldn't we be able to 'teach' our Teslas to "Stay out of the right lane on this street next to the parked cars near my home." It's far safer to be in lane one where no one is going to open a door. Maybe just a button. In this location, so long as it's safe, do this:" and then we drive in the lane we think is better.
7. Speed trap locations. I got dinged in a crummy small municipality in Maryland. The only reason I was there was to use the Supercharger. I got dinged for 31mph in a 25 zone, no cars or people anywhere. Road engineered for >40. Camera ticket. Nothing but a corrupt shakedown. Welcome to Maryland! This should be in the software like Red for traffic. Speed settings should automatically drop to the speed limit with a warning on the screen. I'd rather slow down where a speed trap used to be, or only occasionally is, then get dinged. Or avoid that mall and any part of that town completely.
(I'd put some of this on Tesla Ideas, but I'll bet they're already there. When I get their emails they're usually about the 'idea' of a moderator to delete the second most common 'idea': generating power while driving .... These violate the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and the 1st law of don't be annoying. Which I'm probably being. )
It's so good I was so amazed I love not having 😂to touch the wheel.
Can it now do the road through the parking garage under the library?
Good question
0:32
You are not 'An Influencer' you are 'A Trustworthy Influencer'.
😎🤙
What are you touching to report an issue? Thanks for your help.
Looks like a lot of issues would be solved with the addition of reverse!
The animation shows a backwards path, but it just can't switch into reverse to follow it
@@thomasreese2816 yeah that will get fixed once they unleash reverse capability :-)
See @AIDRIVR s latest video. He assumes the algorithm is already capable of reversing, but the actual reverse function for the FSD stack is locked. Hence it is creeping forward again and again because it thinks it switched to reverse but did not, realizes it, tries again, and so on.
I just took delivery of a new LRAWD MY. Love it. I’m on the 30 day free trial. Do you think they’ll push 12.5 to free trials? It’s on 12.3 right now.
Chris, a question: When you engage FSD, a notification pops up on the screen that say, in part, "Keep hands on the wheel". This is not an oversight on Tesla's part... FSD v12.x is still Level 2, and NHTSA wants that notification to appear, which means this version isn't "hands free". Sure, the steering wheel nag is gone because FSD can now see your eyes, but shouldn't all safety drivers keep their hands loosely on the wheel? After all, FSD is asking you to do this. Thanks!
That left turn you forced it into towards the end of the drive was really, really bad. They gotta fix whatever that issue was. The going through the left turn lane and then going straight is also really bad. Hoping they can get those issues sorted.
Weird that it sometimes realizes it needs to pull off the road to park at the destination. I have yet to experience this with any version of FSD, including 12.5. 12.5 has missed destinations if anything, in spite of the location being on the right, it just hangs out in the leftmost lane and doesn't bother trying to get to the right lane to get to the destination.
"You're the one that's out of control. Don't yell at me" 😆😆
Love to hear similar feedback back. I too feel it’s more confident to MANY decisions and feel like many of the obstacles for robotaxi are melting away.
5:40 nahnahnah, we ain't gonna do all dat. Lol.
I liked this one because it seemed more like what I tend to see with FSD: mostly brilliant driving which occasional WTH moments.
12:01 I have to say that having the screenshot button for accessibility would be great rather than disengaging and trying to think about what you need to say into the mic. It used to be available for everyone so what happened maybe all of this is for another video.
I have never posted anything online ever. We have had it since Sept 2019, so we have plenty of expierence with it. I doubt it's fine tuned for a certain amount of people given there still are so many differences in conditions, roads, etc.
Videos done with DJI cameras are a far better experience for the viewer than GoPro's
Chris, when FSD does something illegal like dealing with that dead end and technically running a red light, wouldn't it help fix the issue if you disengaged so you can have the opportunity to record a VM to the FSD team saying what it did? This, in addition to hitting the camera button, should improve FSD. Sorry, I'm sensitive to cars running red lights because my mom was killed by someone doing that.
I feel like their priorities on based on the life threatening score, i.e. in a parking lot it's rare to have severe accidents, roads are more dangerous therefore they are just focusing on getting the dangerous part working as good as they can first, then polish the other details.
What is the best self driving Tesla to camp in right now?
lmao... probably a Y, maybe 5/7 seater X
21:48 After passing the roadworks, does it have some kind of imperative to get back to the lane it was in now that it's reopened? Or is it scared the car behind is going to go barrelling into the back if it slows in the left lane and blocks traffic caught in the roadworks?
Excellent test case anyway, and the FSD team must be glad for this kind of data (even easier for them to find since you tagged it with a voice report).
5:24 FSD fails to stop for a red light. 🥲
Good catch!
It did a right on red there. After that, yeah, it run the red light.
@@MaVaLa-um2lu no it did not. Right on red involves a full stop on the stop line.
But it never stopped, so it ran the red light
Having the chance to drive fsd 12.4 I would like you to have a camera facing the pedals as well as the forward looking camera. Talking from experience. The car suffers from getting the speeds wrong, to not accelerating in times needed to merge.
Now from my perspective every time you use your foot to slow down ( rarely) or accelerate ( often) that's an intervention where you had to make a judgment call.
So I would love to see with full transparency how often you are still " driving " the car.
Furthur more, I am also painfully aware of how poorly the car does in high density traffic, especially when switch lanes and merges. And God forbid it takes to long to merge, it will miss the onramp or other blunders. You talk about stress testing it. The do it in traffic time of getting off and on highways. Should be easy right😅
At 14:10, there are tons of people complain "FSD is not for me" because it's driving at speed limit, and there are also people who complain "FSD is not for me" because it's speed too much over speed limit. Everyone has their references and the double standards are hard.
11:05 you just need well defined yield rules that do not require you to stop. For example, traffic from the right has right of way. In the US the stop signs are treated a bit like that, but rather the first has right of way.
Can you do a video showing how you plan these routes and load them into the Tesla? I created a route in desktop Google, sent it to my phone and then shared it with the Tesla app, but the car just seemed to ignore it.
I literally just go one by one and add them while sitting in the car haha. Then in the edit you can rearrange if needed.
@@DirtyTesla So does the car stop and park at each way point?
Dirty, I mean, Chris, the 12.5 feels way cool, but I found some odd regressions (non-critical though) that are even beyond 12.3.6. Basically, stopping on L-shaped roads, blinkers, fantom breaking. Weird stuff, but overall it seems more natural and a bit faster on some intersections. Hope then 12.5.x will bring some long overdue options.
All v12 releases are disconnected from the visualization. They are ABSOLUTELY separate systems
21:47 lol, that screw up was by map data I think. Look at the left lane's arrows: straight and right turn? ;D
I've checked, that's not an OpenStreetMap screwup. This is commercial data merged in by Mapbox. I've added the turn lanes to OSM, may this information in OSM will overwrite the commercial data on the next map update. :)
I received 12.5 on my new model 3 a couple hours ago.
In the past you have expressed doubts as to whether FSD will ever be truly L5 RT ready. Do you still feel that way or do you now foresee a time you could put a blind person in the car and have it take them to a destination? Also, do you expect that when 12.5 is optimized for HW3 it should perform the same?
I like your drives with FSD. It gives me a better understanding of improvement from the previous version. I try to keep track of different scenarios, most interesting things are not been tested by early testers yet.
My opinion of FSD 12.5 shows readiness, on a scale from 1 to 10: 1 - Not working, 3 - Working, not useful, 5 - Good, 9 - Like human, 10 - Better than human.
7 - Highway: Performs well, but not perfect(FSD11).
5 - Exit from Highway: Adequate, but requires more refinement, miss exist or change lane too late(FSD11).
7 - Change Lane: Generally effective, but occasional issues.
8 - Intersection: Handles most scenarios smoothly.
8 - Roundabouts: Navigate effectively, though not flawlessly.
4 - Parking Lots: Functional but can struggle with complexity.
3 - Parking on the Street: Needs better spot finding to avoid blocking traffic.
6 - Reverse Parking: Decent, but not consistently reliable.
2 - Gate: Needs significant improvement for reliability.
7 - Signal to Other Cars: Generally good, but improvements are needed.
7 - Left Turn: Handles most left turns well.
4 - Unprotected Turns: Often cautious or hesitant.
5 - Speed Bumps: Recognizes and slows down appropriately.
3 - Constructions on Road: Needs better detection and navigation.
4 - Road Blocks: Struggles to handle unexpected obstacles.
5 - Rain: Performs adequately, but not in heavy rain.
3 - Snow: Limited capability in snowy conditions.
5 - Fog: Manages light fog, and struggles with heavy fog.
4 - Other Cars Breaking Rules: Handles some scenarios, but not all.
7 - Pedestrians: Good at detecting and reacting.
5 - Other Road Vehicles: Adequate, but can be improved.
6 - Traffic Lights: Generally accurate, occasional misreads.
7 - Driving Smoothness: Mostly smooth, with minor jerkiness at times.
6 - Speed Limits: Adheres well, but sometimes slow to adjust.
3 - Emergency Vehicles: Not recognized can be improved.
5 - Supervision: Nice that no hands on the wheel are required.
1 - Front Parking: Major improvements are needed.
1 - Reverse in Street: Significant challenges remain.
1 - Actual Smart Summon(ASS):
1 - Self-park(Banish):
My assessment is, of course, open for discussion, but this is my opinion based on the videos that have been published so far. If there haven't been any new updates, I base this on earlier versions. I assume my opinion may change in the future, but right now, I don't see any area where FSD is as good as or better than a human driver, even though it can sometimes surpass humans in certain scenarios.
There are many scenario when it's already much better than a human, like when a human drive under influence or when a human is distracted by phone or other things
@@StefanoFinocchiaro Don't get me wrong, I think FSD, especially version 12.5, is fantastic. However, it still makes silly mistakes in almost every situation. Although these mistakes are becoming less frequent, they still occur more often than with human drivers. For this reason, I still rate it below human drivers in all aspects. I really hope that, for example, supervision won't be needed on highways, demonstrating that it is consistently better than human drivers.
Here's my thought on Smallville, OK. and across our nation. In this coming age of abundance, us 60+ year olds can still run a farm for profit. I believe in technology.
Small, Mom and Pops produce markets need to have a revival.
We need our communities taken back by the consumers. Support local, stay local and visit big box stores until the niche is filled by locals.
2:50 - Apparently not so. According to the Stats app (which tracks FSD versions) it is on Model S, Model X, Model 3 and Model Y (2024.20.10). Though those may all be Hardware 4 cars. I have a 2021 Model S with Hardware 3 and have not gotten it. AI Driver said that they need some more "optimizations" before they roll it out to HW 3.
This has to be Alien Technology!
That’s all good but why does that tanker (53s in) have 60 wheels!!?? Do you ship liquid newton stars over there!!?? 🤯 In the UK the same tanker might have 18 wheels at most!!
This isn’t really a question of “influencer” only updates BUT / what about the fact that the “fleet” has another dimension which isn’t talked about enough… “Branch” versions seem to vary broadly AND each Branch variation has a difference in capabilities which isn’t made clear by Tesla. As an owner of a MYP, it’s becoming more and more clear that Tesla is purposely masking the differences between Branches. (Or at least not being upfront about this). Ex: my car was one of the thousands “stuck” on branch 8.x and wasn’t getting FSD updates for months behind what seems like every Influencer was presenting and even Analysts were talking about as “generally available”
I do not think they are purposely doing anything for influencers because my FSD on my newest Tesla is doing as good as the videos. What could be happening is they have videos also to review so they can actually target problems and I think they should if possible and hopefully use that to hopefully figure out how to solve other similar problems that they don't have video for. But, maybe we need more videos because I will say that for 6 years I have had issues in the exact same spot on that has been around since version 10 and is still there today. I have considered making videos of it but every time i think about it I am in the middle of something else and forget😅. As far as what they do for Elon...I mean he's the boss, so if it is possible to make his work better I'd do it 😅
Sweet!
We have a trip coming up next week and I have been really hoping to get a good update. It came up yesterday for our car but I haven't had time to check it out.
Something tells me that car didn't see the red-light properly at the intersection. Glad it completed the maneuver safely!
Yeah we were almost directly under it so I'm sure the cameras couldn't see it. I couldn't really see it from where I was either
It's always sunny weather in the FSD videos RUclips recommends, does FSD (12) work in the rain? My european autopilot gives up in heavier rain and just hands over.
We had the heaviest rain in decades in San Diego this spring, and FSD worked fine during that rain.
You found some complex situations there. Overall it did fine, but I would still not release this to the public. I can’t wait for the basic autopilot and highway to be controlled by this new FSD software here in Europe (even though we won’t get FSD), but just to have the normal Autopilot stop and accelerate much more smooth. The old version 11 we have is so jerky.
i still think you need to switch the graph to interactions per mile (or per 100miles). The current graph is super misleading.
Your current trip had 0 interactions so it should be 19/0 = infinite. But you can't graph that so you just put 19/1 = 19..... which makes it look like it performed worse than the 3 trips before it ..... even though you had 0 interactions. Also, if you just set 0 to 1 like that you can no longer tell the difference between 0 and 1.
5:22 is it legal to run a red like that in Michigan? In Virginia you are required to come to a full stop before turning right on red.
No technically you're supposed to come to a full stop but just like stop signs most people don't
Please correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t an “unprotected” left only when there is no traffic control device (sign or light) controlling the cross traffic? See Chuck’s left for reference.
In my view any left turn where you are allowed to turn left while other traffic has the right of way and you only have to yield is unprotected.
A protected left would be where you have a green arrow and the oncoming traffic has a red light
Best video to date for this new FSD release. Loved the, 'Influencer' comment, but if you quack like a duck and drive like a duck, one might be a Influencer.... and you can bet that the FSD team is watching your drives. The question is, are they using your drives to improve FSD for everyone, answer is most likely YES. Now, I still see horrible speed consistency and PD tickets will be issued for 10+ over, especially in 25 mph posted speed zones, school zones, construction areas, end of story! Handling jerky highway speed off ramps and staying in merge lanes till the end when cars are present are a D- score IMHO (would loves to see a separate video devoted to these)... Again, glad you tested FSD 12.x in a new city. IMHO FSD 15.x in 2026 may be the release that has a capable/trustworthy 'Robotaxi' release!
Looks like versions after 12.3 are not available on older cars with the v3 computer. I sure hope they're going to offer free upgrades to long-time FSD owners>
Even if they offered “at cost” upgrade, some people would pay out of pocket for new hardware.
on road around me in Ottawa FSD 12.3.5 would often drive too far too the right. Something I don't think you experienced.
13 mph over the limit is a 2 year loss of licence in all of Australia, from any fixed or unfixed road camera.
Critical for robotaxi: if there’s an accident in the intersection ahead, find its way around it through the adjacent gas station/parking lot.
Elegant!
11:17 Did he, an American, asked for more roundabouts?!!!! Woah.
Appreciate the attempt to "un-influencer" yourself, because you're almost certainly one of those influencers.
At 13:55 I think certain roads deserve higher speed limits. Doing 25 when there’s no other connecting roads is too slow for such a stretch
Take FSD to Woodward Dream Cruise/ Downtown Birmingham/ Royal oak.
What FSD mode are you driving in? Is it chill, standard aggressive?
Average
Just amazing! Although it’s a little confused on the map two days in a row different location once yesterday it put the blinker too early and got confused and took a turn into the street before the one it supposed to turn in then today on my way to work it was going to completely miss the exit on the highway instead of putting the blinker on the right side to exit it put the blinker left and was trying to move out onto the highway. Weird but other than that just amazing smooth nice very well done Tesla.
I’m still having issues with FSD 12.5 where the speed doesn’t go up to the speed limit, even when the MAX is set to +5 or more over. Even after waiting a long time, I’ll have to manually accelerate to the wanted speed. It will hold it there and then it will eventually slow down. I don’t think I had this issue with 12.3.6.