So basically don’t save while aboard ur ship, don’t load a save that’s on ur ship, don’t spend a skill point while in ur ship… don’t do anything that’s not traveling related or shooting enemies
It is not enough. Some missions like the crimson ones (but others too) seem to trigger it. Buying those sweet sal-6380 or other staryard part… so I live with the problem as long as the “duplicate ship” glitch works. Always a crappy ship in reserve. Usually bought, selling the bugged one makes for it.
I have just tested that thoroughly with a new ship, it held up for a long while, but then broke. It also broke for old saves that I 100% tested to work before, so it's not just related to the save game outside the ship. It happens regardless, just a matter of time. It's really an evasive bug they created there. I hope they work on it and fix it, currently it's no fun playing the only space part of the "space game".
What have we gotten? 1 update so far? This is ridiculous. This game needs a ton of but fixes and quality if life updates. It's this always how bethesda is? They don't fix their games unless it's completely broken?
This bug just started hitting me the other day. In my case, I noticed it because my cargo capacity went down by the amount that my cargo perks increase it, if that makes sense. I then looked at my other stats, and sure enough... all stats that were increased by perks were back to base values. I'm wondering if how much stuff your save file has to keep track of is related somehow. At the time, I had 17 fully built out outposts, and a TON of resources, armor, helmets, packs, weapons, etc. I was at level 245, with 52,000 cargo completely stuffed into my ship, and again, fully decked out outposts filled with crap. 300 hours into that one save file. So much stuff going on that my game was constantly lagging. Quicksaves would take nearly ten seconds to complete. Just started my first NG+ run two days ago, and haven't run into the ship bug yet. I have very few items and zero outposts. Zero game lag. This is just a wild ass guess on my part, but I never did have the bug until my saves got really big.
Thanks. I noticed my outposts and all saves started lagging a lot around the time I built my super base. Haven’t gone thru ng+ yet, so at least I have this to look forward too. Thanks.
I think you’re right. I got into outpost building last week and have noticed a slow down in loading times. I wouldn’t even consider what have as much as far as outposts. I have 4 resource outposts and 1 storage outpost. 2 of the resource outposts are essentially just extractors and power with a landing pad and inter-cargo pads. I’m also maxed out in ships. Definitely have noticed loading saves and load screens taking a little longer. Quicksave loads take about 4-6 seconds now. Used to be instant. I wonder if this is an issue on larger ships only. Haven’t had a chance to test this. In any case, I fully expect a patch for both.
You are 100% correct, the bigger the file size, the more frequent the crashes. Someone actually said this when the game launched as a lot of people on Early Access refunded their copies due to the same problem and this was at launch in late August. I read this on Reddit as so many people were complaining and it effects all platforms, not just one. I'm on Series S and usually get 2 crashes a session, it has become a bit more stable since NG+ and the last 3rd patch, but I still crash at least once in a 5 hour session. I delete my save files to a max of 4 and it helps. Quick Resume / Direct Storage is another issue and it effects a lot of other games, I had a lot of crashes on MW2 due to Quick Resume so I always make sure it is cleared before loading any game now.
@@RocketRentonI was just talking on Reddit about crashes on a series s, mine are all the time. Land on a planet to hunt XP, get to a poi, open inventory to see what was in the dung pile that you don’t actually need and crash, back to opening the landing bay. Stsrt XP farming again and decide to build a base after cleaning out 1000m radius of all life. Start playing with hallways seeeing if you can get one to stretch across the landing pad and connect to a building on the other side, and you get 1 shot by an animal. Back to the landing bay doors opening first time. So this time you quicksave often, find a civilian outpost, realize you’ve got a lot of resources, run within range of the ship, open the cargo menu and crash. That’s not to mention the times you just open the menu at the wrong time, the game auto saves and that’s too much so it crashes trying to save. It’s rough lol I play till through the crashes sometimes but other times it’s like when it crashes “oh okay time to get up and do something else, you’re right, thanks for kicking me off game cause I got better sh1t to do”
@@RocketRenton I actually started my first NG+ three days ago, because my newly built outpost I setup to craft Amp crashes my game and corrupts the save file every time I try to visit that outpost. I had over 300 hours into that game, and wasn't ready to start NG+ yet.... I still had a ton of stuff left that I wanted to do before NG+, but since I couldn't visit that outpost and because the game was: 1. Stuttering horribly. 2. Crashing constantly 3. Taking 10 seconds to do a Quicksave or Autosave 4. Taking between 45 seconds to a minute and a half at EVERY loading screen. 5. Taking nearly five minutes to load a save file, I said F it and started NG+ Now I have nothing, but at least the game is stable, saving takes one second, loading screens are five seconds. This is on a fairly nice PC: AMD 3900x with 32 gigs of RAM, Corsair PCI gen 4 M.2 Nvme drives, RTX 2080 Super. Any game that makes a PC like that stutter and crash is horribly coded. Glad I'm playing on xBox Game Pass; I wouldn't pay for this game in its current state. BGS should be embarrassed and ashamed. They should also make things right with their customers. Yeah, like that'll happen. It's such a shame, because without the bugs, the game would be REALLY fun.
I don't ever use quicksave/load and this bug still hits me all the time, where perks aren't being considered. But it's not just in the ship. There will be times where perks like Rejuvenation just stop functioning as well and I'll stop regenerating health, even sitting around doing nothing for 5 minutes after having taken a lot of damage and finishing off the enemies to remove myself from combat.
Nah rejuvenation just never works in combat. And I think you still don’t heal even out of combat if a friendly npc has detected you like those random worm things
I just experienced this yesterday. Tried so many fixes. Hard capped at 1600 for shield and then it drops to 319 after traveling or landing. My Razorleaf is bugged the f out. Very annoying. Thanks for posting this video.
One thing I noticed too is using the Razorleaf before and after the bug happened, I haven't seen any unique encounters with spacers anymore. They just attack me or try to piracy me on encounters without recognizing I'm the Mantis. I cannot substantiate this claim with absolute certainty, but I have had several encounters since the bug and spacers treat me like I'm flying a regular ship.
I found out the hypothesis is not true regarding the Mantis/Razorleaf ship. The shields are bugged, but the unique encounters are still working. Glad that didn't bug out too.
Yeah I wish Bethesda would treat this bug as a high priority! Please forward this video to them or tag them in someway! My ship went from 2500+ shield health to fucking 300!
This bug is annoying for end game but I hope that they address the cargo link bugs with outposts first because this is really stopping me from going whole hog on outposts and getting all of the right material extractors and production facilities. I feel like it's a huge part of the game that I'm not able to experience because half of my cargo links fail and randomly restart and fail again for no reason. I can't keep a basic 7 resource network going let alone the vast web that it takes to make nuclear rods.
I’m experiencing a bug where I can’t add any parts to my ship at Hopetown. If I do, my ship becomes bugged. It either disappears or I get stuck in the hull when I try to board from the landing bay.
They haven't though stopped you raiding Neon Security HQ and the Syndicate Hideout via Frankies in Ebbside, just steal the card off the woman at the counter, multiple times over and over for contraband and weapons, not sure if the hideout will change due to the Ryujin storyline with Imogen but I'm fleecing it as much as I can including all the weapons and crates at the end, and I make 100k but due to the lack of vendor credits it's just time consuming. I also found another bug where if you board a enemy ship with weapon cases on it, then fleece it, go back to your docked ship then re enter the boarded ship, the guns reappear, I managed to get 2x starshards and an inflictor from this method.
I haven't noticed this bug yet, but something that really annoys me is the cargo (payloads). When I'm outside the ship I lose the extra payloads perk (not sure if it's from crew or actual skill point perks), and I have to enter the ship to get it back. It's quite annoying when you're over encumbered and you want to transfer cargo to the ship, but then you find out the ship is over encumbered too. But when you get back inside the ship your cargo capacity jumps up again..
Oh I’ve seen that a few times. Last time was on neon. I’m not sure what was going on with it but I’ll try to look into it. It needs to be fixed youre right
Angry Turtle, Please tell me you forwarded this video to Bethesda!? When it comes to Starfield or Fallout 76 I always trust your findings. You know how to run tests on anything Bethesda game related, when it comes to builds, testing DPS from weapons, or bugs. You know what you are doing and I have never seen a video you made to prove something that I felt I couldn't trust. This ship bug problem is BAD! Its very bad! Bethesda needs to get this FIXED ASAP!!!
I had the ghost ship bug, and even changing ship to the tune of 500k, buying the Vanquisher II from Stroud the bug was still there, the ship is a maze and the ghost ship ruining it for me, in the end I just wrote it off and did NG+ and luckily it hasn't returned but now I have found a Leadership bug for progression which means you can't progress the skill with any stolen / registered ship, it has to be Frontier or a purchased ship from a Staryard. Another problem is NG+ if you don't do the main story and just go for the quick version, the best companions won't be available, so that is another thing they need to look at.
We're seeing so many problems with the flight and ship building systems totalling a complete mess, that they need to get on with some sort of fix (or fixes) ASAP.
My ships have an asteroid that is perm attached even after changing ships, it’s there. My character has a perminent case of freezing vapors that Causes frostbite even when the environment is inferno, constantly listening to the suit beeping at me even while piloting my ship. Add On top of that… The Ships crew yaps at me every time I push a button while piloting. 2 of the missions to track down temples won’t activate so unable to collect those 2 powers. I finally just quit playing cause was just annoying.
I think I might found solution for this problem. Sell the ship and buy back. Mine goes from 1500 (base shield) to 2400 (rank 3 shield systems skill). The problem is, its gonna cost you. Sold mine for 72k, buy back 500k. Not a great solution but it worked.
Bethesda is going to have a busy winter fixing these bugs showing up. I have had so many ships that just vanish from inventory, lose registration. Also when I change ships at my outpost pad there will be no ship on pad. After many reloads the ship is then inside the pad. They better get busy.
Use the ship duplication glitch(the ship vendors), the copied ship will be fine, sell the original ship. Some times the duplicated ship will have an even higher value of shield than it should, so you can even fight back this bug by getting an even higher shield than you're supposed to.
I'm not experiencing the shield bug, or at least not the same one you're describing. I have 3 ships with the same shields- the B class vanguard 1450. Two of them have the same shield value- 2320, the last ship has 2900. I'm no math genius, but the shield skill gives 60% bonus to shields. Which is 870, i think. So 2320 should be the correct value. The last ship, my main one, seems to have the base shield value doubled.
Same with the Leadership rank bug, you are only able to progress if you use the Frontier, Razorleaf, or any purchased ship or one through story missions or side quests e.g Star Eagle. It won't progress with stolen ships even after registering, had to google this today as my progress isn't going up and found this out, it's on Reddit. There's a few ways of getting round this like unassigning crew etc. I have lost ships by the game even after registering and upgrading they just disappear ones I have stolen a real nice 6000 cargo Ecliptic ship using the same hull as this one in this video, and also I had a ghost ship inside my ship for hours on end, after I docked with Grandma this green small ship would just randomly appear in space, from time to time, it only cleared when my companion died, in the main story and hasn't returned since NG+ They still have a long way to go with patches.
I’ve also noticed a bug with weapon modification. Just going back and forth from highlighting certain mods will either increase or decrease stats (damage, range accuracy etc), no rhyme or reason when/why it will do that.
What’s worse is seeing your ship in the hangar after many upgrades & adjustments and not being able to get it out of hangar to fly it. ( think it’s related to having maximum ships saved and trying to add another unregistered ship)
I guess I triggered this bug before I even got to ng+. I never questioned it and always thought the max shield I can get with every buffs, crews, and the best shield is 1600 😢
Shield bug here as well, pretty sure it only happened after taking Shield Systems though. My shields were 100 better when I wasn’t on board even though I had SS rank 3! I was using Vasco then saw your video about him bugging stuff out. On my new ship (without Vasco) everything seems to be working at the moment and I’m using Omari, Sam, Andromeda and Sarah. Even though your shield value may be broken you still get the reduced power usage from Omari/Sam - will help make up for the bugged reactor stat! We need some patches urgently 😂
If this game is the "least buggy" game Bestesda has ever released, I'd hate to have experienced the Fallout games or Skyrim when they were first released.
Are you aware of the ship duplication glitch? I’ve heard duplicating a broken ship will fix it, then delete the broken one. Basically, any time it breaks, copy it on to another ship slot. Perhaps someone can try it to confirm.
Well, that's over a month old now. My theory is, that Bethesda needed to implement an account for the shield and adds skills and crew perks, because of the items you can find giving you a permanent 5% shield boost, no matter if you don't have it in the inventory anymore. So they can't just calculate the shield strength from scratch. This is an issue inherited with the old creation engine, if I am right. The ship builder is the only new thing in Skyrim in Space = Starfield. So this is not the least bugged Bethesda release ever, as some say. It's as bugged as usual in everything that's really new, or worse. If you are lucky, the accounts can break the other way and your shields, generator get stronger than other should be. It's erratic. Of course I also opened a ticket. And that's my suggestion to everyone: Open a ticket. Be vocal about it. Bethesda won't react, other than with automatically generated consolations, before the effort of dealing with the tickets gets worse than fixing the bug. Every ticket opened is a step towards a fix. It's your turn now!
Another thing not related to the shield - can you check if your cockpit has a glitch I noticed the other week (I have the same cockpit). I was standing on top of my ship, walked around to enjoy the view and suddenly I fell through the window into my ship. It is the window on the roof that is most to the left. I have replicated it. Even tried to steal a ship this way but pilot seat was not accesible and the two doors could not be opened.
This Bethesda needs to be sued collectively. It takes money for an unfinished product. The problems are not only with the ship, but also the regeneration in talents still does not work. It seems that they have idiots instead of programmers..
Few ship bugs I’ve encountered; I was trying to level up Ship Command which has me kill 50 ships or board enemies with 6 crew. So I have 6 human and Vasco which I thought it was weird but the tracker wasn’t or isn’t going up after killing a bunch of ships. I tried boarding and the enemies and when I board the ships are completely empty, and when I undock them they start attacking me 😡. Very Frustrating.
I'm on NG+ 10 with all 24 maxed out to 10. I no longer have old saves and cannot just start over. F it.. I'll just fight on litter difficulty when i need to do ship battles. PS: Thanks, Bethesda 👍🏻
After having spent the last couple days messing with the ship builder after work, I finally came up with a design for the Razorleaf that I liked... First ship I board (known cause), my shield breaks... This is now the second ship I have to have a broken shield... I exit and reload before even jumping into the battle, and my shield is STILL retroactively broken! I'm so disgusted at this happening again I think I'm done with Starfield...
I have noticed this bug even in the ship menu. I tested it even. Two exact same ships in my inventory, same everything. And one ship reflects my perks and the other ship will not.
Seems the longer you play, the more shit goes wrong. I currently have perma-Chameleon bug, asteroid companion bug when travel in system, Vasco nose-riding ship bug, ship system bugs everywhere. Seems Targeting is talking longer to lock w/ max skill and shield strength is a yo-yo. In addition to David Barron off map bug for Sabotage. . SMH
I had an issue where I was trying to smuggle cargo and the scans were acting like my shielded cargo holds and jammers didn’t exist. I moved the parts around in my ship builder and then it worked. Wondering if it’s related
I got in my ship after modifying it, and couldn’t move. I managed to look down, which allowed me to exit, but I had no ability to use the boost pack. It took a lot of fidgeting to fix.
Vasco is an interesting one. When flying if you go into photo mode and move it through your ship you can see your crew but sometimes there’s no Vasco on board even when he’s crew and was there when you took off.
So after 467 hours of gameplay, you brought this to my attention. I’ve built two big ships in my play through and I didn’t even notice there was this issue I believe I had this since the beginning, noticing inconsistencies in numbers for the ships. Thanks again for the info, always looking for your content to keep me up to date. I’ll do some testing on my own to see different things happening to these shields.
you might never notice this unless you play on high difficulty where high lvl enemies just kill you in 3 seconds, then you probably wonder why XD I got 1600 shield atm and it sucks badly on very hard difficulty sometimes...
On my favorite ship last night, my shields just stayed off, zero shields. Even replaced the shield totally and the shields never came back on. After trying many things, I finally just sold the ship.
I ran into a similar bug with my pack. It had been equipped but the boost wasn't working at all. I simply unequipped the pack and unequipped it and it works.
I was having so much fun till, my ship was mysteriously reset to the base model I used to create my ship...also I am barred from entering the Den to sell my junk. I can't exit my ship through the docking port. Door cycles, but won't go to the entry animation. Just sitting here docked to the Den and watching the airlock mechanism function.
I have had hatch issues where it won't open if I am docked or on the ground, so I save then reload, it then clears it, but I have had the docking issue as well, and the same method fixed it. Weird bugs this game had, so many.
1600 shields would be an improvement for my current ship. I have lvl 4 shield perk and a 1600 shield generator but my shields are down to 960 at the moment.
I have to say I am actually pretty surprised that Bethesda hasn’t been very proactive with the patches. They literally just pulled out two extremely minor patches that literally a fact very few people. I don’t know why they’re not on a weekly or twice weekly schedule at this point to show us that they’re still actively working to make the game better. It’s kind of strange.
Even after the update its there. This is so bad. My maxed out Vista 3 with best shield has 579 shield. Or worse! Lowest I saw was like 289 or so. That is sickening and makes the whole skill grind completely obsolete. In a game like Starfield. That is my gamekiller, literally. After 398 hrs I quit. Thanks Bethesda. If I want shitty service and incompetent calculations, I can already refer to microsoft. Bye.
Haven't exactly encountered this bug as I use a mod that allows me to install multiple shield systems and I normally run 2 Vanguard shields. Only time it did seem like my shields were wonky I was using the same cockpit you have in the video on a "micro claymore build" but haven't really flown that ship since. Just an odd data point for the pile.
Great video Turtle. I hope this gets a priority fix. It's really frustrating. I've gone back to other games until Starfield gets a major bug fix update.
I've had to resort to console commands on PC with achievement enabler mod to fix the multiplier by forcing it to a certain value. It persists beyond saves but it's a real pain to have to do this.
OOF reduced shields sounds terrible. My bug is the opposite, for some reason VASCO applies to my Razorleaf and Star Eagle for free. I have him "stationed at out outpost" yet those B-class 39-power ships yield the same total power as my 40-power ships, and they have slightly higher shields with their 1450 shield modules compared to my ships with 1600 modules. With my own shield skill, and Omari, my menu says 2900 shield on those two ships! I wonder if the possibility of VASCO applying for free can be related to if you're "gifted" a ship and where he is stationed at the time. I have not seen this benefit with stolen or bought ships but maybe someone will mention their own counterexample. Note: I stayed with shields level 3, I did not take level 4 yet. Also I never level up ship-related skills while flying, to be safe I always leveled them while on the ground outside and then re-boarding my ship after.
There's another bug I find out. The ship speed is inconsistent... I have to unassigned/assign Sam to fix it. It happened when I have Sam as travelling companion. I think it's the crew abilities that cause all the ships systems to bug out. Even weapon dmg numbers are affected by the bugs. And one more, crew disappearances from list. I lost my Heller! And yes, outpost have bugs too. Crash when you try to bring up the build menu on an already placed outpost. RIP STRIX system outpost. Have the best resources spot even.
If you disable all autosave functions, the bug will no longer occur, and you will be able to use all crew members without problems. I've been trying for 2 days and so far, on all the new ships I've boarded or bought, I haven't had any bugs, neither with shields nor with other abilities. It works for me.
so if I get it right, if you save or load when you are in the ship with crew, you will get the bug? So it is safe if you only do loads when you are outside the ship (not in space)?
Yeah.. I didn't realise until too late! now I've lost my particle system weapons perk boost.. on All my ships! Even new builds😪 I saw a post saying the shield thing can be fixed when browsing u're ships in ship builder: u press whatever key u assigned to switch ship (left or right) AND enter the ship building mode at the same time: it will copy the ship u were looking at over the next one (replacing it), ad whatever gizmo on the ship (just to say u changed something) then confirm when backing up and voilà the bug is fixed on the copy u made, dont forget to get rid of the corrupted one!.. only it didn't fixe the particle weapon system 😔
I notice my shield alternates between 1600 and 1920 shield. Makes no sense. I have both Omari Hassan and vasco assigned so I wonder if that might be causing issues. They really need to fix this
If checking ship shields with console commands is accurate then this bug is just VISUAL, the actual shield value is correct. I've had multiple ships showing crazy low shield and crazy high shield, but when using console and the .getav maxshieldhealth command the shields always show correctly. I'm hoping this is accurate and we can all just trust that the game doing the correct calculations for crew and perks in the background, but then just improperly displaying its values.
@@angryturtlegaming it very well could be. I just find it interesting that the game still recognizes the correct value when checked through console. I had a ship with this bug, set it's shield to 20k, and it still felt like paper. Not sure if it's placebo, but I don't have the means to test it's exact value. I've also noticed that the displayed value changes when I make it my home ship, check it through a vendor, and also check it through my inventory. All different values displayed, but all the same values when checked through console. Either way a very silly thing to be in such a big game and needs to be addressed.
If you don't want to do the ship duplication glitch and have the credits. You can sell a ship and buy it back to get your shields back. Just tested this.
That didn't work for me. When I sold the ship, in the vendor it showed the correct shield value, but as soon as I rebought it, it went back to the bugged out value (My Voyager III currently has 525 shields)
Hmmm... don't know about this bug.. but I haven't used a ship part in a while and I have been running destroy missions a lot now. Though I use only particle turrets since I don't have plans on boarding ships, I steal ships from the ground only.
The one bug I have with shields is on the Frontier. It's locked at 600 shield strength and won't change no matter what shield I put on it and, of course, I can't sell it to get rid of it.
I recently learned a way to get around that limitation! If you go to any ship vendor/kiosk that *doesn't* currently have enough credits to afford the Frontier (or other unsellable ships, like the Starborn ones) then you get the warning about getting less credits that it's worth - which you can accept, and then the ship is GONE!
Question to narrow the issue: You don't seem to have the ship building skill maxed out, so if you have a 1600 base shield, it is most likely glitch built, right? The glich where you select a part you have access to in an area where it's red and then switch to another one, that is still there. Could it be that the mismatch in ship building skill and equipped parts trigger the bug? If that's the case we should tell Bethesda, so they can recreate the issue. Of course glitch building might go away together with fixing the bug. I have meanwhile maxed out ship building the glich free way and will try to build another ship and check for the bug, maybe it's only on glitch built ships.
My shield started out at 3200 now it’s 960 and just built this ship costing almost 1 million. I had the same issue on my other ship too . I went to Akila and add Omar and my ship completely disappeared.
fix this by using a glitch to duplicate the ship over a burner ship and the shield stats come back. A BONUS to this is that you can sell the bugged ship and make money .
I recently encountered this bug and it has me floored. This bug has been frequently talked about online yet it has not been fixed at all so far. I have wanted to put my foot through the TV since it occurred. Sadly ill have to put the gane down until it is fixed.
I think we'd be better off without crew, if you could avoid them. I reloaded to an old save game before I started recruiting crewmembers, and the shield strength went back to its original value.
Yep, last NG, just my favorite ship bugged. Now, this morning, everything was fine. Just checked and all 5 of my current ships have reduced shields. My 2 scratch built, 1600 shields are at 960, untouched Razorleaf is 624. Untouched UC Prison Shuttle may not have a shield, so not sure, but it's at 0. Guardian is 1976 (not sure if that's changed or not). This bug is super close to making me quit the game until it's fixed.
I've missed this bug, since i was so annoyed of the crew that i did not had any since NG1. Just today i was about to start a new NG and i had the stupid thought to use them to rank up that skill to allow more crew members and of course it did not count the destroyed ships and i had 7 assigned to the ship on board.:)))) How the coders managed to allow a companion to run into the line of fire is beyond ridiculous. Also how the game can crash on loading screen is something i can not accept from a game where every 2 minutes there is a loading screen. This was the first and the last time bethesda got money out of my pocket.
I have Omari Hassan in my crew. That guy offers you 1 shield power for free (the first shield power is bright green instead of blue) and I've tested your steps and this issue doesn't happen to me. Another thing, worth taken into account, is the fact that I'm still having the vendors' chests glitch, so this might be caused by a recent update.
Has anyone experienced their character's cargo drop to low 200s kg even with the perks, and modded spacesuit i had my guy up to 460 mass capacity then suddenly dropped to 230..another bug??
Ive had that happen where the suit upgrades are not working, Most of the time removing the suit and putting it back on closing the menu opening the menu will restore the value same thing happens to your companions
Save type does not matter (autosave, quicksave, manual, exit save) Workaround 1: reload again (save-load-load). Workaround 2: exit to menu (BUT WARNING: exit to menu/desktop could make an EXIT SAVE with broken ship) Don't save while having bad numbers (ok...hard to keep doing that). Seems to be a "same cell" reuse problem (like the outpost weapon case exploit).
Seems like this bug is fixed with the new beta patch. I tried reproducing by saving on my ship, loading the save, and looking at the shield value. Shields stayed the same. So... I hope it's finally been fixed.
I have to quick save everywhere because the game constantly crashes and sends me to desktop. Seems I wasted many points trying to get more crew members which are not helping me in any way.
Stuff like this is why I only play Bethesda games on PC. On Xbox this would be a major issue. On PC it's a minor annoyance I can fix in a few seconds with a console command (until it breaks again). Same thing with the lockon time bug.
Not a ship bug but I bought an explosive furious advanced pacifier shotgun from the legendary dealer. Got killed while holding it. When I reloaded it was invisible.I dropped it and it reappeared but was a basic non legendary pacifier.
Has anyone heard if Bethesda has recognized this problem. Is it going to be patched? I stopped playing since this happened and won't play again until its fixed. So frustrating.
Have you reported this on Bethesda's issue tracker? I have had the shield happen repeatedly myself. I keep fixing it in the console. I never noticed the others. I'm not playing the game now. Just playing other things waiting on them to someday patch this stuff.
To fix it go into space in 3rd person. Open console. Click on ship. then in console "forceav ShieldMaxHealthMult 1.6" or 1.8 if you have crew that has skill. This example is with me having rank 4 of shields systems perk so get a 60% boost. With no perks it would just be 1.0. You can check the current multiplier with getav instead of forceav. Mine keeps getting set to 0.6@@floorpizza8074
I must say i hardly use quicksave/load, i never got used to that type of gaming, but i never encountered the bug. Although i swap ships alot, it might be fixable by just changing ships.
Same as COD and RADIANT, based on Quake and Doom from ID Software, no matter what Anti Cheat they use, it's exploitable and will always be, they need to move to UE5 or a new engine now, Creation Engine 2 isn't it. I watched Fallout New Vegas playthrough a few weeks before Starfield launched, the the AI act the same as the ones in Starfield, like 12 years and they are still the same.
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So basically don’t save while aboard ur ship, don’t load a save that’s on ur ship, don’t spend a skill point while in ur ship… don’t do anything that’s not traveling related or shooting enemies
Is there anything you can do to revert this? Like landing, get out, get back in and going back to space?
It is not enough. Some missions like the crimson ones (but others too) seem to trigger it. Buying those sweet sal-6380 or other staryard part… so I live with the problem as long as the “duplicate ship” glitch works. Always a crappy ship in reserve. Usually bought, selling the bugged one makes for it.
We are fked
I have just tested that thoroughly with a new ship, it held up for a long while, but then broke. It also broke for old saves that I 100% tested to work before, so it's not just related to the save game outside the ship. It happens regardless, just a matter of time. It's really an evasive bug they created there. I hope they work on it and fix it, currently it's no fun playing the only space part of the "space game".
@@BlueSideUp They probably will fix the duplicate ship glitch (the only thing that makes the shield bug bearable) and perhaps make the bug worse 😂.
They need to get their patches prioritized, and fix this fun game. Edit- Also Congrats on 10K subs Angry Turtle!!!!!!
Yes! Thank you!
What have we gotten? 1 update so far? This is ridiculous. This game needs a ton of but fixes and quality if life updates. It's this always how bethesda is? They don't fix their games unless it's completely broken?
This bug just started hitting me the other day. In my case, I noticed it because my cargo capacity went down by the amount that my cargo perks increase it, if that makes sense. I then looked at my other stats, and sure enough... all stats that were increased by perks were back to base values.
I'm wondering if how much stuff your save file has to keep track of is related somehow. At the time, I had 17 fully built out outposts, and a TON of resources, armor, helmets, packs, weapons, etc. I was at level 245, with 52,000 cargo completely stuffed into my ship, and again, fully decked out outposts filled with crap. 300 hours into that one save file. So much stuff going on that my game was constantly lagging. Quicksaves would take nearly ten seconds to complete.
Just started my first NG+ run two days ago, and haven't run into the ship bug yet. I have very few items and zero outposts. Zero game lag.
This is just a wild ass guess on my part, but I never did have the bug until my saves got really big.
Thanks. I noticed my outposts and all saves started lagging a lot around the time I built my super base. Haven’t gone thru ng+ yet, so at least I have this to look forward too. Thanks.
I think you’re right. I got into outpost building last week and have noticed a slow down in loading times. I wouldn’t even consider what have as much as far as outposts. I have 4 resource outposts and 1 storage outpost. 2 of the resource outposts are essentially just extractors and power with a landing pad and inter-cargo pads. I’m also maxed out in ships. Definitely have noticed loading saves and load screens taking a little longer. Quicksave loads take about 4-6 seconds now. Used to be instant. I wonder if this is an issue on larger ships only. Haven’t had a chance to test this. In any case, I fully expect a patch for both.
You are 100% correct, the bigger the file size, the more frequent the crashes. Someone actually said this when the game launched as a lot of people on Early Access refunded their copies due to the same problem and this was at launch in late August.
I read this on Reddit as so many people were complaining and it effects all platforms, not just one.
I'm on Series S and usually get 2 crashes a session, it has become a bit more stable since NG+ and the last 3rd patch, but I still crash at least once in a 5 hour session.
I delete my save files to a max of 4 and it helps.
Quick Resume / Direct Storage is another issue and it effects a lot of other games, I had a lot of crashes on MW2 due to Quick Resume so I always make sure it is cleared before loading any game now.
@@RocketRentonI was just talking on Reddit about crashes on a series s, mine are all the time. Land on a planet to hunt XP, get to a poi, open inventory to see what was in the dung pile that you don’t actually need and crash, back to opening the landing bay.
Stsrt XP farming again and decide to build a base after cleaning out 1000m radius of all life. Start playing with hallways seeeing if you can get one to stretch across the landing pad and connect to a building on the other side, and you get 1 shot by an animal. Back to the landing bay doors opening first time.
So this time you quicksave often, find a civilian outpost, realize you’ve got a lot of resources, run within range of the ship, open the cargo menu and crash.
That’s not to mention the times you just open the menu at the wrong time, the game auto saves and that’s too much so it crashes trying to save. It’s rough lol I play till through the crashes sometimes but other times it’s like when it crashes “oh okay time to get up and do something else, you’re right, thanks for kicking me off game cause I got better sh1t to do”
@@RocketRenton I actually started my first NG+ three days ago, because my newly built outpost I setup to craft Amp crashes my game and corrupts the save file every time I try to visit that outpost.
I had over 300 hours into that game, and wasn't ready to start NG+ yet.... I still had a ton of stuff left that I wanted to do before NG+, but since I couldn't visit that outpost and because the game was: 1. Stuttering horribly. 2. Crashing constantly 3. Taking 10 seconds to do a Quicksave or Autosave 4. Taking between 45 seconds to a minute and a half at EVERY loading screen. 5. Taking nearly five minutes to load a save file, I said F it and started NG+
Now I have nothing, but at least the game is stable, saving takes one second, loading screens are five seconds.
This is on a fairly nice PC: AMD 3900x with 32 gigs of RAM, Corsair PCI gen 4 M.2 Nvme drives, RTX 2080 Super.
Any game that makes a PC like that stutter and crash is horribly coded.
Glad I'm playing on xBox Game Pass; I wouldn't pay for this game in its current state. BGS should be embarrassed and ashamed. They should also make things right with their customers. Yeah, like that'll happen.
It's such a shame, because without the bugs, the game would be REALLY fun.
I can't imagine flying without my crew. This sucks.
I don't ever use quicksave/load and this bug still hits me all the time, where perks aren't being considered. But it's not just in the ship. There will be times where perks like Rejuvenation just stop functioning as well and I'll stop regenerating health, even sitting around doing nothing for 5 minutes after having taken a lot of damage and finishing off the enemies to remove myself from combat.
There's a mod out on Nexus now to fix the Rejuvenation bug.
Nah rejuvenation just never works in combat. And I think you still don’t heal even out of combat if a friendly npc has detected you like those random worm things
I just experienced this yesterday. Tried so many fixes. Hard capped at 1600 for shield and then it drops to 319 after traveling or landing. My Razorleaf is bugged the f out. Very annoying. Thanks for posting this video.
One thing I noticed too is using the Razorleaf before and after the bug happened, I haven't seen any unique encounters with spacers anymore. They just attack me or try to piracy me on encounters without recognizing I'm the Mantis. I cannot substantiate this claim with absolute certainty, but I have had several encounters since the bug and spacers treat me like I'm flying a regular ship.
I found out the hypothesis is not true regarding the Mantis/Razorleaf ship. The shields are bugged, but the unique encounters are still working. Glad that didn't bug out too.
Yeah I wish Bethesda would treat this bug as a high priority! Please forward this video to them or tag them in someway! My ship went from 2500+ shield health to fucking 300!
I have this issue and it totally blows. This needs to be fixed asap.
This bug is annoying for end game but I hope that they address the cargo link bugs with outposts first because this is really stopping me from going whole hog on outposts and getting all of the right material extractors and production facilities. I feel like it's a huge part of the game that I'm not able to experience because half of my cargo links fail and randomly restart and fail again for no reason. I can't keep a basic 7 resource network going let alone the vast web that it takes to make nuclear rods.
Nice catch especially the ways it happens and the fixes. You're doing Space Gods work here. They REALLY need to get this patched asap!
I’m experiencing a bug where I can’t add any parts to my ship at Hopetown. If I do, my ship becomes bugged. It either disappears or I get stuck in the hull when I try to board from the landing bay.
But at least they removed the chests that you could loot stealing from vendors.
That was so much more important
They haven't though stopped you raiding Neon Security HQ and the Syndicate Hideout via Frankies in Ebbside, just steal the card off the woman at the counter, multiple times over and over for contraband and weapons, not sure if the hideout will change due to the Ryujin storyline with Imogen but I'm fleecing it as much as I can including all the weapons and crates at the end, and I make 100k but due to the lack of vendor credits it's just time consuming.
I also found another bug where if you board a enemy ship with weapon cases on it, then fleece it, go back to your docked ship then re enter the boarded ship, the guns reappear, I managed to get 2x starshards and an inflictor from this method.
@@RocketRenton my point was they are fixing things that aren't really problems and ignoring actual issues.
I haven't noticed this bug yet, but something that really annoys me is the cargo (payloads). When I'm outside the ship I lose the extra payloads perk (not sure if it's from crew or actual skill point perks), and I have to enter the ship to get it back.
It's quite annoying when you're over encumbered and you want to transfer cargo to the ship, but then you find out the ship is over encumbered too. But when you get back inside the ship your cargo capacity jumps up again..
Oh I’ve seen that a few times. Last time was on neon. I’m not sure what was going on with it but I’ll try to look into it. It needs to be fixed youre right
This happens to me too and it drives me nuts.
I've heard other people say the bug comes from the shield skill perk. Might want to test it out with zero points in that.
Angry Turtle, Please tell me you forwarded this video to Bethesda!? When it comes to Starfield or Fallout 76 I always trust your findings. You know how to run tests on anything Bethesda game related, when it comes to builds, testing DPS from weapons, or bugs. You know what you are doing and I have never seen a video you made to prove something that I felt I couldn't trust. This ship bug problem is BAD! Its very bad! Bethesda needs to get this FIXED ASAP!!!
Don't worry they don't care about this bug or any bug whatsoever.
I'll avoid the game for now .... this is a game blocking issue for me ...
not spending 500k - 1000k credit on a new ship to have it getting bugged.
I had the ghost ship bug, and even changing ship to the tune of 500k, buying the Vanquisher II from Stroud the bug was still there, the ship is a maze and the ghost ship ruining it for me, in the end I just wrote it off and did NG+ and luckily it hasn't returned but now I have found a Leadership bug for progression which means you can't progress the skill with any stolen / registered ship, it has to be Frontier or a purchased ship from a Staryard.
Another problem is NG+ if you don't do the main story and just go for the quick version, the best companions won't be available, so that is another thing they need to look at.
Yeah I have the same crew as you recommended but it always goes back to 1600 shields. It should have 2400 but it always reverts back. Its so annoying
We're seeing so many problems with the flight and ship building systems totalling a complete mess, that they need to get on with some sort of fix (or fixes) ASAP.
My ships have an asteroid that is perm attached even after changing ships, it’s there.
My character has a perminent case of freezing vapors that Causes frostbite even when the environment is inferno, constantly listening to the suit beeping at me even while piloting my ship. Add On top of that…
The Ships crew yaps at me every time I push a button while piloting.
2 of the missions to track down temples won’t activate so unable to collect those 2 powers.
I finally just quit playing cause was just annoying.
I think I might found solution for this problem. Sell the ship and buy back. Mine goes from 1500 (base shield) to 2400 (rank 3 shield systems skill). The problem is, its gonna cost you. Sold mine for 72k, buy back 500k. Not a great solution but it worked.
Not working
Bethesda is going to have a busy winter fixing these bugs showing up. I have had so many ships that just vanish from inventory, lose registration. Also when I change ships at my outpost pad there will be no ship on pad. After many reloads the ship is then inside the pad. They better get busy.
Use the ship duplication glitch(the ship vendors), the copied ship will be fine, sell the original ship.
Some times the duplicated ship will have an even higher value of shield than it should, so you can even fight back this bug by getting an even higher shield than you're supposed to.
I'm not experiencing the shield bug, or at least not the same one you're describing. I have 3 ships with the same shields- the B class vanguard 1450. Two of them have the same shield value- 2320, the last ship has 2900.
I'm no math genius, but the shield skill gives 60% bonus to shields. Which is 870, i think. So 2320 should be the correct value. The last ship, my main one, seems to have the base shield value doubled.
Same with the Leadership rank bug, you are only able to progress if you use the Frontier, Razorleaf, or any purchased ship or one through story missions or side quests e.g Star Eagle.
It won't progress with stolen ships even after registering, had to google this today as my progress isn't going up and found this out, it's on Reddit.
There's a few ways of getting round this like unassigning crew etc.
I have lost ships by the game even after registering and upgrading they just disappear ones I have stolen a real nice 6000 cargo Ecliptic ship using the same hull as this one in this video, and also I had a ghost ship inside my ship for hours on end, after I docked with Grandma this green small ship would just randomly appear in space, from time to time, it only cleared when my companion died, in the main story and hasn't returned since NG+
They still have a long way to go with patches.
Rebuilding a whole new ship is a big problem when, if you do like me, and the ships you build are 500k+ credits
I’ve also noticed a bug with weapon modification. Just going back and forth from highlighting certain mods will either increase or decrease stats (damage, range accuracy etc), no rhyme or reason when/why it will do that.
I haven’t been looking at the shield levels, but I see that my reactor power changes all the time … up and down.
What’s worse is seeing your ship in the hangar after many upgrades & adjustments and not being able to get it out of hangar to fly it. ( think it’s related to having maximum ships saved and trying to add another unregistered ship)
I guess I triggered this bug before I even got to ng+. I never questioned it and always thought the max shield I can get with every buffs, crews, and the best shield is 1600 😢
Shield bug here as well, pretty sure it only happened after taking Shield Systems though. My shields were 100 better when I wasn’t on board even though I had SS rank 3! I was using Vasco then saw your video about him bugging stuff out. On my new ship (without Vasco) everything seems to be working at the moment and I’m using Omari, Sam, Andromeda and Sarah. Even though your shield value may be broken you still get the reduced power usage from Omari/Sam - will help make up for the bugged reactor stat! We need some patches urgently 😂
If this game is the "least buggy" game Bestesda has ever released, I'd hate to have experienced the Fallout games or Skyrim when they were first released.
bethesda games tend to be in finished state couple years after release
Are you aware of the ship duplication glitch?
I’ve heard duplicating a broken ship will fix it, then delete the broken one.
Basically, any time it breaks, copy it on to another ship slot.
Perhaps someone can try it to confirm.
Well, that's over a month old now. My theory is, that Bethesda needed to implement an account for the shield and adds skills and crew perks, because of the items you can find giving you a permanent 5% shield boost, no matter if you don't have it in the inventory anymore. So they can't just calculate the shield strength from scratch. This is an issue inherited with the old creation engine, if I am right.
The ship builder is the only new thing in Skyrim in Space = Starfield. So this is not the least bugged Bethesda release ever, as some say. It's as bugged as usual in everything that's really new, or worse. If you are lucky, the accounts can break the other way and your shields, generator get stronger than other should be. It's erratic.
Of course I also opened a ticket. And that's my suggestion to everyone: Open a ticket. Be vocal about it. Bethesda won't react, other than with automatically generated consolations, before the effort of dealing with the tickets gets worse than fixing the bug. Every ticket opened is a step towards a fix. It's your turn now!
Another thing not related to the shield - can you check if your cockpit has a glitch I noticed the other week (I have the same cockpit). I was standing on top of my ship, walked around to enjoy the view and suddenly I fell through the window into my ship. It is the window on the roof that is most to the left. I have replicated it. Even tried to steal a ship this way but pilot seat was not accesible and the two doors could not be opened.
This Bethesda needs to be sued collectively. It takes money for an unfinished product. The problems are not only with the ship, but also the regeneration in talents still does not work. It seems that they have idiots instead of programmers..
tell that ea
Few ship bugs I’ve encountered; I was trying to level up Ship Command which has me kill 50 ships or board enemies with 6 crew. So I have 6 human and Vasco which I thought it was weird but the tracker wasn’t or isn’t going up after killing a bunch of ships. I tried boarding and the enemies and when I board the ships are completely empty, and when I undock them they start attacking me 😡. Very Frustrating.
I don’t typically use exploits but this forced me to duplicate my ship with the glitch and that did fix it even with max crew.
This is how I fixed the bug that does not allow you to rename some ships. Duplicate, then rename the copy.
I'm on NG+ 10 with all 24 maxed out to 10. I no longer have old saves and cannot just start over. F it.. I'll just fight on litter difficulty when i need to do ship battles.
PS: Thanks, Bethesda 👍🏻
After having spent the last couple days messing with the ship builder after work, I finally came up with a design for the Razorleaf that I liked... First ship I board (known cause), my shield breaks... This is now the second ship I have to have a broken shield... I exit and reload before even jumping into the battle, and my shield is STILL retroactively broken! I'm so disgusted at this happening again I think I'm done with Starfield...
I have noticed this bug even in the ship menu. I tested it even. Two exact same ships in my inventory, same everything. And one ship reflects my perks and the other ship will not.
Seems the longer you play, the more shit goes wrong. I currently have perma-Chameleon bug, asteroid companion bug when travel in system, Vasco nose-riding ship bug, ship system bugs everywhere. Seems Targeting is talking longer to lock w/ max skill and shield strength is a yo-yo. In addition to David Barron off map bug for Sabotage. . SMH
I had an issue where I was trying to smuggle cargo and the scans were acting like my shielded cargo holds and jammers didn’t exist. I moved the parts around in my ship builder and then it worked. Wondering if it’s related
Did you remember to move the contraband to ship inventory? 😂 gets me sometimes when I forget to check the misc category
@@JAlonge017 doubled and triple checked. I'm always smuggling something whenever I enter settled system space
I got in my ship after modifying it, and couldn’t move. I managed to look down, which allowed me to exit, but I had no ability to use the boost pack. It took a lot of fidgeting to fix.
Vasco is an interesting one. When flying if you go into photo mode and move it through your ship you can see your crew but sometimes there’s no Vasco on board even when he’s crew and was there when you took off.
look outside above the cockpit, vasco janks out and stays outside the ship for me.
@@matty101yttam oooh I’ll try that. Lol.
So after 467 hours of gameplay, you brought this to my attention. I’ve built two big ships in my play through and I didn’t even notice there was this issue I believe I had this since the beginning, noticing inconsistencies in numbers for the ships. Thanks again for the info, always looking for your content to keep me up to date. I’ll do some testing on my own to see different things happening to these shields.
you might never notice this unless you play on high difficulty where high lvl enemies just kill you in 3 seconds, then you probably wonder why XD I got 1600 shield atm and it sucks badly on very hard difficulty sometimes...
From what I see here, it seems like his save file is bugged, not the game, because this doesn't happen to me.
On my favorite ship last night, my shields just stayed off, zero shields. Even replaced the shield totally and the shields never came back on. After trying many things, I finally just sold the ship.
I ran into a similar bug with my pack. It had been equipped but the boost wasn't working at all. I simply unequipped the pack and unequipped it and it works.
Basically my game is broken for good. Im way beyond reload point. Saved a shit tons of times in ship....
I guess we'll need to avoid the shield skill for now. I hope it's high on Bethesda's list of bug fixes. Thanks.
I was wondering!! I'd go from 750 shield power then jump to 1250? I was like whaaaaat!? 😂😂 But oh well.
I was having so much fun till, my ship was mysteriously reset to the base model I used to create my ship...also I am barred from entering the Den to sell my junk.
I can't exit my ship through the docking port. Door cycles, but won't go to the entry animation.
Just sitting here docked to the Den and watching the airlock mechanism function.
I have had hatch issues where it won't open if I am docked or on the ground, so I save then reload, it then clears it, but I have had the docking issue as well, and the same method fixed it.
Weird bugs this game had, so many.
The method you suggested didn't work for me, I'm an Xbox console player. No effect re-installing the game either 😕
1600 shields would be an improvement for my current ship. I have lvl 4 shield perk and a 1600 shield generator but my shields are down to 960 at the moment.
I have to say I am actually pretty surprised that Bethesda hasn’t been very proactive with the patches. They literally just pulled out two extremely minor patches that literally a fact very few people. I don’t know why they’re not on a weekly or twice weekly schedule at this point to show us that they’re still actively working to make the game better. It’s kind of strange.
They are afk or? I wait for big patch
Even after the update its there. This is so bad. My maxed out Vista 3 with best shield has 579 shield. Or worse! Lowest I saw was like 289 or so. That is sickening and makes the whole skill grind completely obsolete. In a game like Starfield. That is my gamekiller, literally. After 398 hrs I quit. Thanks Bethesda. If I want shitty service and incompetent calculations, I can already refer to microsoft. Bye.
Haven't exactly encountered this bug as I use a mod that allows me to install multiple shield systems and I normally run 2 Vanguard shields. Only time it did seem like my shields were wonky I was using the same cockpit you have in the video on a "micro claymore build" but haven't really flown that ship since. Just an odd data point for the pile.
Great video Turtle. I hope this gets a priority fix. It's really frustrating. I've gone back to other games until Starfield gets a major bug fix update.
I've had to resort to console commands on PC with achievement enabler mod to fix the multiplier by forcing it to a certain value. It persists beyond saves but it's a real pain to have to do this.
Omg I was wondering why my shields were at default values. As if I had no maxed out skills at all
Thank you soo much for bringing this bug to the masses. It's a problem that has been game experience breaking for me😢
OOF reduced shields sounds terrible. My bug is the opposite, for some reason VASCO applies to my Razorleaf and Star Eagle for free. I have him "stationed at out outpost" yet those B-class 39-power ships yield the same total power as my 40-power ships, and they have slightly higher shields with their 1450 shield modules compared to my ships with 1600 modules. With my own shield skill, and Omari, my menu says 2900 shield on those two ships!
I wonder if the possibility of VASCO applying for free can be related to if you're "gifted" a ship and where he is stationed at the time. I have not seen this benefit with stolen or bought ships but maybe someone will mention their own counterexample.
Note: I stayed with shields level 3, I did not take level 4 yet. Also I never level up ship-related skills while flying, to be safe I always leveled them while on the ground outside and then re-boarding my ship after.
There's another bug I find out. The ship speed is inconsistent... I have to unassigned/assign Sam to fix it. It happened when I have Sam as travelling companion. I think it's the crew abilities that cause all the ships systems to bug out. Even weapon dmg numbers are affected by the bugs. And one more, crew disappearances from list. I lost my Heller! And yes, outpost have bugs too. Crash when you try to bring up the build menu on an already placed outpost. RIP STRIX system outpost. Have the best resources spot even.
Yes crew can disappear I read that today as well, another bug related to Ship Command progression.
I'm seeing it too..
I'm also finding that the game is randomly deleting a ship i own when i capture another ship
If you disable all autosave functions, the bug will no longer occur, and you will be able to use all crew members without problems. I've been trying for 2 days and so far, on all the new ships I've boarded or bought, I haven't had any bugs, neither with shields nor with other abilities. It works for me.
Wow! Did you had the shields bug before??
Wow, it looks like Bethesda's curse strikes again!
so if I get it right, if you save or load when you are in the ship with crew, you will get the bug? So it is safe if you only do loads when you are outside the ship (not in space)?
I can't guarantee it will never bugged but definitely risk is much lower
Yeah.. I didn't realise until too late! now I've lost my particle system weapons perk boost.. on All my ships! Even new builds😪 I saw a post saying the shield thing can be fixed when browsing u're ships in ship builder: u press whatever key u assigned to switch ship (left or right) AND enter the ship building mode at the same time: it will copy the ship u were looking at over the next one (replacing it), ad whatever gizmo on the ship (just to say u changed something) then confirm when backing up and voilà the bug is fixed on the copy u made, dont forget to get rid of the corrupted one!.. only it didn't fixe the particle weapon system 😔
I notice my shield alternates between 1600 and 1920 shield. Makes no sense. I have both Omari Hassan and vasco assigned so I wonder if that might be causing issues. They really need to fix this
If checking ship shields with console commands is accurate then this bug is just VISUAL, the actual shield value is correct. I've had multiple ships showing crazy low shield and crazy high shield, but when using console and the .getav maxshieldhealth command the shields always show correctly. I'm hoping this is accurate and we can all just trust that the game doing the correct calculations for crew and perks in the background, but then just improperly displaying its values.
i'm pretty sure it's real bug, my most bugged shields definitely felt like paper
@@angryturtlegaming it very well could be. I just find it interesting that the game still recognizes the correct value when checked through console. I had a ship with this bug, set it's shield to 20k, and it still felt like paper. Not sure if it's placebo, but I don't have the means to test it's exact value. I've also noticed that the displayed value changes when I make it my home ship, check it through a vendor, and also check it through my inventory. All different values displayed, but all the same values when checked through console. Either way a very silly thing to be in such a big game and needs to be addressed.
If you don't want to do the ship duplication glitch and have the credits. You can sell a ship and buy it back to get your shields back. Just tested this.
That didn't work for me.
When I sold the ship, in the vendor it showed the correct shield value, but as soon as I rebought it, it went back to the bugged out value (My Voyager III currently has 525 shields)
HOLY HECK. Nasty. I'll go through my fleet and if I find any busted ships I'll have something to troubleshoot on. Yikes. Thanks for the heads up!
Hmmm... don't know about this bug.. but I haven't used a ship part in a while and I have been running destroy missions a lot now. Though I use only particle turrets since I don't have plans on boarding ships, I steal ships from the ground only.
It is fun boarding ships as well, if you find a Galbank on it's own, it's worth a nice hefty payday but it's very rare.
The one bug I have with shields is on the Frontier. It's locked at 600 shield strength and won't change no matter what shield I put on it and, of course, I can't sell it to get rid of it.
I recently learned a way to get around that limitation! If you go to any ship vendor/kiosk that *doesn't* currently have enough credits to afford the Frontier (or other unsellable ships, like the Starborn ones) then you get the warning about getting less credits that it's worth - which you can accept, and then the ship is GONE!
@@OG_Agrivar...damn. I actually experienced that just last night, but I didn't sell it because I figured it wouldn't let me...
Thanks! ! !
Question to narrow the issue: You don't seem to have the ship building skill maxed out, so if you have a 1600 base shield, it is most likely glitch built, right? The glich where you select a part you have access to in an area where it's red and then switch to another one, that is still there. Could it be that the mismatch in ship building skill and equipped parts trigger the bug?
If that's the case we should tell Bethesda, so they can recreate the issue. Of course glitch building might go away together with fixing the bug.
I have meanwhile maxed out ship building the glich free way and will try to build another ship and check for the bug, maybe it's only on glitch built ships.
I'm playing on Xbox and I have the bug. I have lvl 4 shield perk and lvl 4 ship building. My 1600 shield generator is only giving me 960 shields now
My shield started out at 3200 now it’s 960 and just built this ship costing almost 1 million.
I had the same issue on my other ship too . I went to Akila and add Omar and my ship completely disappeared.
Sometimes the game will not let you remove people example Sara Morgan.
So we should switch to no automatic quicksave? Is it only Pc or also xbox?
this bug is quite wide spread
fix this by using a glitch to duplicate the ship over a burner ship and the shield stats come back. A BONUS to this is that you can sell the bugged ship and make money .
Ships are so bugged. I've had to register a ship I captured 3x and the name reverted.
I recently encountered this bug and it has me floored. This bug has been frequently talked about online yet it has not been fixed at all so far. I have wanted to put my foot through the TV since it occurred. Sadly ill have to put the gane down until it is fixed.
I think we'd be better off without crew, if you could avoid them. I reloaded to an old save game before I started recruiting crewmembers, and the shield strength went back to its original value.
I didn't know about this bug and didn't pay much attention to the characteristics of my ship's shield. Is there a way to tell if my ship is bugged?
Yep, last NG, just my favorite ship bugged. Now, this morning, everything was fine. Just checked and all 5 of my current ships have reduced shields. My 2 scratch built, 1600 shields are at 960, untouched Razorleaf is 624. Untouched UC Prison Shuttle may not have a shield, so not sure, but it's at 0. Guardian is 1976 (not sure if that's changed or not). This bug is super close to making me quit the game until it's fixed.
I've missed this bug, since i was so annoyed of the crew that i did not had any since NG1. Just today i was about to start a new NG and i had the stupid thought to use them to rank up that skill to allow more crew members and of course it did not count the destroyed ships and i had 7 assigned to the ship on board.:))))
How the coders managed to allow a companion to run into the line of fire is beyond ridiculous.
Also how the game can crash on loading screen is something i can not accept from a game where every 2 minutes there is a loading screen.
This was the first and the last time bethesda got money out of my pocket.
The only thing we can do is open a ticket to bethesda, we have to do....
I have Omari Hassan in my crew. That guy offers you 1 shield power for free (the first shield power is bright green instead of blue) and I've tested your steps and this issue doesn't happen to me. Another thing, worth taken into account, is the fact that I'm still having the vendors' chests glitch, so this might be caused by a recent update.
Has anyone experienced their character's cargo drop to low 200s kg even with the perks, and modded spacesuit i had my guy up to 460 mass capacity then suddenly dropped to 230..another bug??
Ive had that happen where the suit upgrades are not working, Most of the time removing the suit and putting it back on closing the menu opening the menu will restore the value same thing happens to your companions
@hellzenvy I've swapped suits like that but I'll try your sequence hope it works..thanks!
Save type does not matter (autosave, quicksave, manual, exit save)
Workaround 1: reload again (save-load-load).
Workaround 2: exit to menu (BUT WARNING: exit to menu/desktop could make an EXIT SAVE with broken ship)
Don't save while having bad numbers (ok...hard to keep doing that).
Seems to be a "same cell" reuse problem (like the outpost weapon case exploit).
Seems like this bug is fixed with the new beta patch. I tried reproducing by saving on my ship, loading the save, and looking at the shield value. Shields stayed the same. So... I hope it's finally been fixed.
Have you tried removing all the power from shields and reapply?
yes
I have to quick save everywhere because the game constantly crashes and sends me to desktop. Seems I wasted many points trying to get more crew members which are not helping me in any way.
Stuff like this is why I only play Bethesda games on PC. On Xbox this would be a major issue. On PC it's a minor annoyance I can fix in a few seconds with a console command (until it breaks again). Same thing with the lockon time bug.
I can't get rid of Vasco. I have assigned him to a base, and made sure he's not my follower, but he is always at my ship.
Not a ship bug but I bought an explosive furious advanced pacifier shotgun from the legendary dealer. Got killed while holding it. When I reloaded it was invisible.I dropped it and it reappeared but was a basic non legendary pacifier.
one of my ships says Shield HP is 4160 with a 1600 shield. what's up with that?
Has anyone heard if Bethesda has recognized this problem. Is it going to be patched? I stopped playing since this happened and won't play again until its fixed. So frustrating.
Have you reported this on Bethesda's issue tracker?
I have had the shield happen repeatedly myself. I keep fixing it in the console. I never noticed the others. I'm not playing the game now. Just playing other things waiting on them to someday patch this stuff.
What is the console command to fix this?
To fix it go into space in 3rd person. Open console. Click on ship. then in console "forceav ShieldMaxHealthMult 1.6" or 1.8 if you have crew that has skill. This example is with me having rank 4 of shields systems perk so get a 60% boost. With no perks it would just be 1.0. You can check the current multiplier with getav instead of forceav. Mine keeps getting set to 0.6@@floorpizza8074
Care to share that console command?
What if you switch home ships and then go back to the original ship?
I must say i hardly use quicksave/load, i never got used to that type of gaming, but i never encountered the bug. Although i swap ships alot, it might be fixable by just changing ships.
I've tried changing my ships multiple times but my main ship with a 1600 and my lvl 4 shield perk is stuck at 960
The reason is unfortunately a 25ys old engine that is stick together with a saliva.
Same as COD and RADIANT, based on Quake and Doom from ID Software, no matter what Anti Cheat they use, it's exploitable and will always be, they need to move to UE5 or a new engine now, Creation Engine 2 isn't it.
I watched Fallout New Vegas playthrough a few weeks before Starfield launched, the the AI act the same as the ones in Starfield, like 12 years and they are still the same.
I have this bug but sometimes I will have full power to shields and my shield percentage will be zero.