Is sex within marriage only for procreation? Contraception
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025
- Sexual Relationship within an Amritdhari Marriage.
To clarify there is nothing mentioned direct in Bani in regards to this subject but we have made a humble attempt to try & understand it.
We are often asked the question by married couples if its allowed to have a sexual relationship even if its not for the purpose of having children hence the reason for doing this video.
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I didn't know there was a religion with such beautiful ideals of a sacred marriage.
M Q You've never heard of Christianity?
LoWaiv Haha good joke. Clearly you've never heard of any other religion but Christianity.
Tyler Burns The loving relationship between man and wife is all throughout the New Testament. Have you even read the New Testament all the way through?
M Q loves how we implement love. That's all M Q is saying.
We also don't go in other people's religion channels and tell people how amazing Sikh religion is.
We respect all religions. So there is no reason to say Sikh religion is the only one that says that.
You should start accepting also that Christianity is not the only way to God.
That is what Tyler Burns was also saying!!!
Hsomething Singh Don't take it personal. I'm just saying it's like a lot of people disregard Christianity without even looking deeper into it. I don't get why.
This channel is the example of what Guru Nanak ji said, "ujjad jayo" thanks to basics of sikhi 🙏🏻 waheguru ji
Sexual desire, anger and other evils have been subdued in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy.
I had inter affairs realtionship with married woman . while I be forgiven ? 😔
@@sandipsingh3230 just leave her and do path and apologise to her family memebers I don't know you will be forgiven but maybe your punishment may get lighter or forgiven
@sandipsingh3230 iam no expert but there is a qoute that I once heard that i wish to share with u in hope that it will be comforting in doubt the qoute if my paraphrasing is correct is that God (waheguru) os closer to you then your own arms and legsPlease remember that God is not one one of the past he is beyond time and even though we may be children who live there life making mistakes God is that mother and father who takes us back again and again as explained in a katha called in the loving laps of God discussing the shabad tera bhorsai pyare ma lad ladeda by bhai bajiy on basics of shiki
YES!!!! YES !! YES!! THERE IS NOTHING SWEETER THAN THE AMRIT!
I think you should have to explain it in punjabi also because such topics are untouched ,so that one can get right path.
Beautifully presented. Thankyou veer ji. This needs to do done in a pachar ie when you guys go out there and speak to people because the matrix we are born into objectifies women in such a bad light its really sad. Obviously the capitalists reap the rewards of women as sex objects potrayed and entrenched in everything we look at ie advertisements, music whether it b bollywood or hip hop, rnb... Its every where. Its like now adays a woman cant give someone a genuine smile without it being read in the wrong way. Seriously this needs to be done and relayed in a pachar style.
Sharon Bhara
I tried everything in my power to be good to my would be wife but she still left. I never cheated, had sex with her, never hit her, remained honest and loyal, always emotionally supported her, encouraged her to tell her family which she did. Even still, I guess it wasnt good enough for her. She left. Im not sure what some women are expecting?
My plan is to find a wife as pretty as you. It's taking patience finding one that wants real love and marriage tho. Sorry for rambling. It's been a long day.
@@lowaiv2973 this is not the place to do this
@@lowaiv2973 😂😂simp
You guy's are doing great work may GURU NANAK DEV JI bless you
Sex before marriage is not tolerated. Means no sex before marriage. You must have self control while you're not married. You can only wait until you are married to your husband or wife.
Only such societies don't tolerate girls who lost their virginities before marriage, nothing is said about virginities must be preserved until marriage in sikhi, since sikhi believes that every gender, no matter their virginity status are all equal to this universe and vaheguru ji. So don't get confused with punjabi culture and sikhi, they are both different from their point of views.
@@MrKhalsaSingh have you read 52 Hukamname of Guru Gobind Singh Ji? It prohibits relations with anyone other than one's wife.
@@premsingh-yi4dg I know the hukamnama from 14 and 15, states that to treat every woman who isn’t your wife as your mothers, sisters and daughters. I wasn’t talking about the hukamnama, I was talking about virginities from girls that shouldn’t matter to us, since Sikhi believes in humanity to all status, caste, race, gender, sexual orientations etc. and we shouldn’t be judgemental to any of these things, including virginity as we need to think about protecting their honour and dignity of these girls if they lose their virginities. 🙏
@@MrKhalsaSingh Yes but now a days everyone is losing their virginities by go and engaging in immoral acts...not like when we would defend those who were raped. We don't tolerate those who go and engage in premarital coital relations because its against Hukam of Guru Sahib. We do however protect those whose honour and dignity has been gone because of a rapist.
@@MrKhalsaSinghexactly veerji. Nirvair aa Sikhi. Sab Rab de bande. Waheguru ji chardikala vich rakhein duniya nu.
Fantastic explanations,it covered a lot for me...I do have more questions though.
I personally believe that contraception is okay if the couple is not emotionally ready to have a child, or if they can't afford a child and all their lives would become a hardship. So many cultures impose family values and essentially force women to give birth to legitimize their marraiges. I personally don't believe I have any right to expect a wonam to have my child. For those and other medical reasons I also believe abortions are justified. More that that it is not my body--what right do I have to make demands?
Well said! Much needed.
God bless you always veer ji......
Well done JOB
ok i dont understand this if i love my wife i will end up attached to her but then in another video it states sikhs aren't supposed to be attached to any worldly thing it sounds like a contradiction
+Dando K Its one thing to keep something in our control and another thing to be in its control.. Sikh is supposed to control the five thieves, not be controlled by them
+Dando K When a person is on lower spiritual level he should focus on only his wife. When a person go higher spiritual plane then automatically sexual desires will decrease.
+Rahul Bangar Sexual desire will decrease, but love will not. And there is a difference between love and attachment. Gurbani actually says husband and wife are so close they become one soul in two bodies. It also says the same divine light is in us ALL and we are to see and serve that divine light in everyone. The first person we are close enough to see that light in is our spouse. In actuality there is only ONEness of everything. But the closest glimpse we see of 'merging' back to that oneness is through the marriage relationship and that is why Gurbani speaks of all human souls as 'soul bride' married to her husband lord. The relationship between husband and wife, can be deeply spiritual and mirror our all journey to merging back to Creator. But there is a difference between love and lust, caring and attachment etc. I need food to survive, but I can also become addicted to it. See the difference? btw also kaam is not sex. A lot of people think it is. Kaam is desire to anything worldly. Addiction. Like some desire power over others and that can also be seen as kaam. Desire for money. etc. One can be in love with their spouse, without becoming filled with desire. Think of a healthy marriage where both spouses love each other. Then think of a marriage where the husband is over controlling and jealous of his wife all the time. In one case they share love and connection. In the other case the wife is the husband's desire and that desire is ruling him. Hope I explained that ok LOL.
Harkiran Kaur Religion many times say something which don't makes any sense. Religion is philosophy and it can be wrong.
There can't be one rule or law for everyone. Everyone may be born from one light but everyone is different.
One should learn to use his or her brain.
Rahul Bangar Actually there can, because we are all human. Using your analogy, it's ok to discriminate against some because they are different. One thing still existing in Sikhi right now is discrimination against women. Even though our Gurus taught gender equality, it has yet to be achieved. We are kept from seva at Harmandir Sahib, some sampardas think we are impure and keep us from seva (of SGGSJ) because we menstruate and they think we are dirty, some rehet maryadas tell wives they must see (and serve) their husband as a God (Parmeshwar) but the husband is only told to see his wife as a faithful follower. And women are kept from the most prestigious seva by many groups - acting as one of the panj pyaras. All this because they say we are 'different' and deserve less than males. The Gurus however taught that ALL humans deserve the SAME opportunities and rights. As we ALL carry the SAME divine light equally. The human bodies are temporary and will die. The soul that essence the divine light in us, does not. Our true identity is that light and not the haumai (Ego) identity. These false identities we *think* we are are built entirely upon our experiences in THIS lifetime only. Remove those memories, remove those experiences and there still exists a consciousness. What I call the doer. The experiencer. THAT is our true identity. That identity happens to be the SAME across the board. So everyone is NOT so different after all. Read the shabad on Ang 736 where it describes reality as a play, where God is both the director AND the actor playing all the characters. But when the play is done and the costumes are removed (our ego sense dies) we see there is only ONE. (And there only ever was one). Then it asks us, where did all these identities and forms come from and where did they go?
In reality this world is the act of the ONE conscious creator (formless) pure consciousness... manifesting form through itself (likened as a dream many times in Gurbani). Its like when you yourself dream at night (as above so below) and you think you are only one character in the dream but in reality the entire dream happened in YOUR mind, and YOU were not only every character, but also every blade of grass, the trees, the sky etc as well as they ALL manifested in your own thoughts. But when you wake up, you realize they were all one (yourself) even though they seemed separate in the dream world.
Can you guys please do a video or shed some light on moving in with your partner before marriage. - Is it ok or should it be avoided before marriage. Thank you.
No it's not according to guru gobind singh ji you should first have andand karaj or marriage by sikh ritual then you can have sexual intimacy
@@unknownsingh7328 Sorry, I was not talking about physical intamcity. I’m talking about moving in with your bf/gf or fiancé before marriage. Living together prior to the Sikh wedding.
@@shayymann I don’t think it’s recommended. You know how Punjabi society is, they’ll talk. So I would say wait till you have Anand Karaj and then move in. It’s just unheard of in Punjabi communities of people moving in before marriage. That’s just weird. I don’t mean to put you down, I’m sure your intentions are pure but you gotta consider the ramifications of doing so. So I would say, play it safe. Don’t give people the chance to talk.
@@shayymann Also just ran into a video on dating in Basics of Sikhi, dating isn’t allowed. So moving in with someone before marriage definitely isn’t allowed. Because that comes from dating. Not to mention that you could possibly no matter how strong you think you are, engage in sexual relations. It’s a lot easier than you think And that isn’t allowed either, at least not before marriage. So I wouldn’t recommend it.
@@prabhdheersingh7945 can you please send me the link
veerji u should teach in punjabi there are some who dont understand some words and ur teaching in between breaks down.
bruv, we cant understand punjabi lol
MandeepGadgetBoy lool
-- not looking to argue please.. just want to get this off my chest….
These r my beliefs at the moment and I’m trying to learn the gurbani but it is making me distant a bit from what’s written. I am recognizing it’s more important to focus on my morals/values instead of society. And I keep on learning and who knows maybe my values will change. I’m remaining openminded and following religion where I can be happy and not judged.
I believe this is YOUR interpretation and it can be different for others. And I’m not saying you are wrong with what’s written. Sex is not bad and we should talk about it. It’s quite interesting you couldn’t even say the word sex in this video. Why is it so taboo? We need sex education in India to reduce the rape culture.
But what I wanted to say is, sex is not bad. And I don’t think we should follow word to word with any religions book. Remember these stuff was written before birth control. And times have changed so we need to progress as well. The youth wouldn’t be “influenced” if we use the word sex. They will learn how to have safe and healthy sex.
Many women are raped in their marriages and sadly, they don’t even understand it’s happening.
Sex does not equal to kids, absolutely not. Cause if you are saying that then, you might be against abortion.
I believe you can follow Sikhi which I’m trying my hardest to do but it’s difficult when the community and society points fingers.
I went to gurdwara after so long and started to cry and repeating “I’m sorry for making this place dirty” and then I went back and no one was there but me and I didn’t feel sad at all…. I realized waheguru isn’t judging me, it’s society and the community
I’m not saying it’s NOT written in the gurbani to have sex after marriage -- it is written. And I know free will can cause us to do harmful things for us and we should be doing God’s will. But remember, everyone’s God looks different. My waheguru is MY waheguru and I don’t judge what your values/morals are and I hope I get the same respect (which I know I wouldn’t).
Appreciate the help bt brother can u explain why does Guru Tegbahadur Ji restrict a man from having premarital sex i think the reason “why” is really important thnx
I have experienced the same but after marriage its much better.
Thank you so much Bhai sahib ji. 🙏 Waheguru ji ka Khalsa waheguru ji ki Fateh.
Very well explained
I don't know if Basics of Sikhi have answered this or not (which i would love it if they would), I was wondering are Amrithdharis allowed to marry Non-Amrithdharis? and what is the meaning and power behind a marriage? If possible can you support your answers with quotes from the Guru Granth Sahib?
Watch the Anand Karj Basics of Sikhi. There I think two, one is about the Maryada which is are the rules for a Sikh marriage, and the other one is about the Spiritual reasons for Anand Karj.
+GM S Love those videos , this one, and the one for no dating (Both) all makes perfect sense. the first one on no dating also mentions how sacred marriage is . * Gur Fateh//
Watch videos of nanak naam 🙏
Very nice explanation veer Ji. Well done.
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Sukhen Sarkar, D Singh is a man !!!!!
Very curious as to which Bani this is of Guru Gobind Singh. Its common knowledge now much of Dasmee Granth is questioned by many Scholars as to its contents and association to Gurmat.
what about woman should they obey the same rules?
Yes, they should. Equality between male and female in sikhi, so the rules apply to both. Soul doesn't have a gender.
This got confusing. Pretty quick
Is that budda in back on wall?????? (Is not a Buddist differnt from This religion?.(or way of God?.)
It’s a painting of Guru Nanak Dev ji, the founder of the path of Sikhi
Amritdhari can kiss his wife yes or not
Of course yes! But u should use your own discretion to do these things in public as these are private matters
so great Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru mehar karn esse tarah
Veer ji plz remove the fake photo on the wall behind that is ruining the belief of Sikhism makimum.
It's Sikhi, not Sikhism.
No
How is it fake? I don't get it...
MrKhalsa Singh mala in hand
@@pubgdynamodecks4927 what's wrong with the Mala?
Kaam ek aise chiz hai jiske bare me aksar log bolne se darte hai
mujhe nhi pata bani me kya likha kyunki mai nastik hu
par ek chiz maine jo sikhi hai kaam aise chiz hai jo limit me ho toh sahi hai limit se bahar aksar apradh kara dete hai
aksar kaam ki bhogi kabhi pakad nhi ate jaisa ki log kehte hai ek admi ne ek aurat ka rape kiya hai toh wo apradhi hai
par ek raja ki 40 wife hai woh apradhi nhi hai
dono hi kaam ki bhogi hai bus farak sirf power ka hai
yeah duniya me pakhad hai wo log hi apne aap ko sahi kehne me lage rehte hai jo khud sahi nhi hote hai
mujhe nhi pata apne kya bola hai mujhe ache se english nhi ate hai maine bus apna nazriya pesh kiya hai comment me
Rannvijay Singh Bhai is video mai kaha hai ki kaam control mai hona chahiae aur sirf apni wife k saath hona chahiae. Aur aurat ko sapne mai v buri nazar se nahi dekhna chahiae. Aur same aurat ke liye bhi hai ki woh v apne pati k prati trustworthy rahe. Aur yeh sabh Gurbani mai se udahrne deke samjhaya hai
WE SHOULD TRY OUR BEST TO FOLLOW CELIBACY EVEN AFTER MARRIAGE AS ONLY CELIBACY LEADS TO GOOD PHYSICAL AND MENTAL STRENGTH. MANY STATEMENTS HERE SAYING " SIKHI ALLOWS SEX ETC " ARE LEADING TO LOUR YOUTH RUNNING AFTER GIRLS AND VULGARITY ETC..LOSING SEMEN IS PAAP BUT UNFORTUNATELY MANY SIKHS DONT UNDERSTAND THAT...
I am hindu, but I love sikh brother ,, I think sex is only for procreation. ,, we can not become a brave and courageous like shivaji, maharana pratap and great sikh warriors without semen retention.
@@abhitrivedi6861 Very Right Veerji
You should not get married.
Waheguru ji
Can unmarried amritdari sikh should make a physical relationship with their love (nonsikh)?
No
It's confusing if sex is allowed in Sikhism
LMAOOOO
Yes. Bt in limit. One should focus on spirituality
No,. sex must be prohibited as it raise kaam or lust. One should more being into spirituality. Learning towards one pathway.
Where do you learn to understand Gurmukhi?
There’s a playlist to learn Gurmukhi aswell on the channel
Yes or no answer?
Were u from brother, i sense a brummie there??
I had inter affairs realtionship with married woman . while I be forgiven ? 😔
You’re done bro that’s disgusting
waheguru forgives everyone brother, just need to ask for forgiveness with a clean heart❤️
@@akashdeepmalhi8854 thanks brother .. and do consider me in your ardas 🙏🏽
are you an amritdhari?
@@user18747 yes I was
Which app is used for gurbaning search ?
There are many on phone igurbani,igranth,gurbani searcher
Isher micro media, gurbani sewa
bro . what if ur life partner is not Amritdhari , so is it ok we have physical relation !
Harmanpreet Singh she MUST agree?? Is it a choice or you are imposing on her??
Harmanpreet Singh she should try to agree sends a wrong message again ..it's only when she/he attains that level( awastha) should take a decision .
The truth is. Sikh's are not allowed to marry outside of Sikh Religion.
There is a simple reason for that. Sikh's believe that when you get married. Two souls merge into one.
So we take a promise to have a relationship with God. We will both take Guru Granth Sahib as our teacher.
If someone is from another religion, Sikhs must not change their religion. They must not marry someone who is from the other religion.
The Same rule applies for Men and Women.
Hope this helps.
What is a Amritdhari? Pls explain
Mulakh Singh brother true amrit is lord himself.
Waheguru
I see you everywhere now
So after marriage getting physical is only limited to having children and not enjoyment!? Plz correct me if i'm wrong?
It can be only for higher spiritual person
But for lower like us it is not possible.
Killing the desire forcibly could be dangerous
You can do it after marriage for pleasure its not a huge deal. just not before marriage and not w anyone else
sex must be prohibited as it raise kaam or lust. One should more being into spirituality. Learning towards one pathway.
Endless Pleasure can only achieve with sprituality listening gurbani doing saas giraas simran.
WAHEGURU JI
First of all please clean all the guru's photographs with mala in hand. Guru's criticize mala but you see what we did.
Gobind Sherwal Guru did not criticise maala, instead criticised those that held the maala and were fake.
Can Sikh do hand practice
dilbag singh mastarburation is like think your body as toy and try to feel some pleasure but own body for sikh is like temple of lord.i mainly say no.
But Simply It depand on type of human.
Actually no. Bcoz when our mind is free, lust attacks. So keep ur mind busy in kirtan , Sketching , drawing etc.
Yea go ahead, just don't complain about weak eyes, hair fall, acne, weak body, and an ever lustful mind.
What about celibacy?
+Xi Zui Sikhs don't believe in Celibacy, only people that are celibate in Sikhism are the people who don't get married.
Wrong, celibacy is used only if people are not focusing on procreation. Nothing has stated that sex is only used for marriages.
@@MrKhalsaSingh guru Nanak dev ji was against his son for being celibate right?
@@Panjabijs he was against his sons for going against his Preaching and appointing Guru Angad Dev Ji as Duja Patshah
Not because of celibacy
Which is not a BAD thing to say because Baba Deep Singh Ji, Mai Bhago, I think Sant Baba Sundar Singh Ji Bhindranwale were Behungam (Celibate) and had A very high avastha.
Guru Ji's were against using celibacy, matted hair, like the path of Sadhus. But Guru Ji said physical relations are only for marriage in charitar 21 in Charitropakhyan (in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib) Guru Gobind Singh Ji elaborates on this. My personal belief is that physical relations are for procreation purpose only as kaam must be subdued. I don't believe in contraceptive, abortion and such because if u input Gurmat into the minds of everyone
There will not be a need for such a thing
@@premsingh-yi4dg I FEEL, CELIBACY MAKES A MAN PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY STRONGER. WE SHOULD GO FOR SEX ONLY FOR PROCREATION OTHERWISE WE WILL KEEP LOSING PRECIOUS THING AND WONT BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE HIGHER AVASTHA. I FELT BETTER WHENEVER I FOLLOWED CELIBACY. BUT SURPRISINGLY WHY CELIBACY HASNT BEEN ADVOCATED IN SIKHI PROPERLY...
Pran means what?
Breath
one word is praan which means breath.. other word iss pran which means promise
Have you ever thought that they were talking about God as the spouse and the "bed of another woman" as Maya. You're taking it way to literally.
Then what about ''nij naari''
waheguru
Nice way to twist his words for the common folk but the only way to the highest enlightenment is celibacy.
Grt
mmmmm
Well first of all
Sikhism doesn’t have all the answer that one seeks
It does
it has all the answers and the truth for the seekers, not for manmukhs.
Sikhism is a man made religion so of course it does not have all the answers. Only islam has all the answers as it is a way of life.
@@QasimAli-bc2vc oh please 😭😂 sikhi isn’t a rule book. As you practice and meditate, you submit your thinking for the gurus. It doesn’t need to tell u every single little detail rather it provides you with a mindset which is in line with sikhi so you can make certain decisions for yourself if they follow the rules of sikhi and are not in contradiction with it. I.E- if you are doing business and you are in negotiations. A religion cannot tell u every single situation but it can bestow upon you the correct mindset to deal with it. Islam is a beautiful religion but stop with this whole ‘you must convert or you’ll go to hell mentality’. Which god in their right mind would expect someone to leave their religion and cause harm to the family structure for that?
@@QasimAli-bc2vc Sikhi is the true word of God (Allah/Waheguru/Ram) so if you don’t like that then get off here
Come to Jesus!
No
no thanks i am happy with my religion
This is why I love sikhi. We teach people to excel in their own religions not convert to ours. Good luck in Christianity we all hope you live a great life.
Sirr jaway Tah jaway Mera sikhi sidak na jaway.
waheguru