Emily, Richard, and Logan made her a brat... no, it wasnt becoz of money.. it was how they made her feel, how they tolerated her at every chance.. Lorelai always kept her grounded. Dean and Jess also treated her like a real person..
@@lauriecarson6483 she ignored lane when she was with Dean, got mad at her when Lane wanted to be a cheerleader, and didn’t introduce Lane to Logan until her 21st birthday.
I think it's great the palladinos did that to her. Even though it's a comedy series they managed to keep it realistic. ( lane never becoming a rockstar, April not getting into chilton or an ivy school (bc she doesnt have the same privilege as rory), rory being able to afford to just fool around for 10 years refusing to take Jobs that are "beneath" her, while Lane has to work to feed her children...And even Lorelai running from her nepotism, still had adventages: she went into buisness, bc Richard for sure showed her from a young age how to manage it and he owns the insurance company for the Inn, emily did parties in the Inn leading to more high class customers...
yep, she worked really hard and she got there. but her not getting into chilton while rory did was such an accurate representation of class and society. She has so much privilege and the show did a great way of portraying it realistically
Her downfall could have been because she was so mature and perfect in the first seasons. Then having this perfect personality as a kid and teenager could have left her feeling a need to rebel in her adult years. Find out what it's like to apply less pressure on herself. Though I do blame Lorellai for Rory being so mature, I think this could be one reason why she acted out of character in the later seasons.
yup, she definitely got burnt out from having to be the mature one all the time. and once she realised how it felt to let loose, she j spiraled.. What do you think abt Lorelai and Emily’s relationship dynamic?
@@filmandsuchh I think that Emily doesn't make effort to understand and accept lorelai, but lorelai tries so hard to understand her mother. They just had a REALLY bad therapist. And they have serious communication issues. I think Emily may have influenced Lorelai on her thoughts of a high society being bad, and rich people being bad. I don't know, it's a hard one to answer. I just hope that they can be civil one day.
Hers. I think everyone spoiled her and ofc she took their words to heart, but she became a monster herself. She cheated, didn’t learn from that, and was not only with a married man but was forgetting the name of her boyfriend by the end, and she wasn’t working as hard as she saw her mom worked…this was on her. Like I can see her getting bratty in the og series, she was a teen-young woman and that made sense (she had to be reminded of her privilege), but by the reboot…man…I just wish her mom went in on her more
Oh god don’t get me started in the reboot. Yea, i think her downfall was her fault but it was predictable throughout the show bc of how she was treated. I feel soo bad for lorelai…
@@filmandsuchh Even if she was sheltered by her mom and grandparents's wealth, there were also people around her who saw her for who she is. But she never really fixed any of her issues and instead she kept ignoring them. I guess that's why she ends up going back home to Lorelai and following in her footsteps etc.
Yea, I talk more about this on my new video, they ruined so many things for lorelai and rory. And this was one of those avoidable events. They should hv j listened to lorelai.
Love this video essay. I love seeing Gilmore girls video essays still being made. There’s so much to discuss! Rory was very spoiled and overly praised. Her chilton era was her best
@@filmandsuchh will do! Will definitely be sticking around. You should watch this channel called Kierra loves TV she also does similar types of video essays, lots of gilmore girls videos too lol
Her mothers. Who treated her like she was to be the center of everyone’s universe, never held her accountable for anything and was more interested in being her friend
I agree! Over the last few watches I've been realizing more and more that it doesn't really seem to be Rory's fault that she went south. I think it's understandable on both sides. There were several times during the early episodes where Rory practically made herself sick with guilt after making mistakes, and those around her naturally responded by telling her it wasn't her fault, and she can't beat herself up over it. But as it progressed, it was pretty clear that mindset really stuck, that she wasn't really allowed to take responsibility for her action, until things started getting really serious with Dean, and then she was just in denial because that's sort of how she'd been trained. It's sad really. I do love the realism though. I don't think anyone meant for that to be the result.
Yes! This. Everyone around her treated her as though she was never at fault and obviously being fed this false information and a vulnerable age would have affected her…
This critique absolves Rory of all responsibility and makes the claim that she is simply a product of her circumstance. No one is. I think If Rory has a superpower its the ability to blend in and become what others want her to be , allowing her to hide in plain sight. She gets so good at being invisible that even she can’t find herself. She is left with no agenda of her own, and when she does try to be a separate person it is overly aggressive and makes little sense, such as stealing a boat or sleeping with a married man. The only character who consistently sees her for her is Jess, who acts as a wake up call for her with both Dean and Logan, and ultimately encourages her to write her book. Her story.
I don’t know, the point of this video was to analyze how and why she became so entitled as the series progressed and to me, it’s obvious that toxic forces affected her at a vulnerable age. I’m not saying she wasn’t to blame at all, I’m saying it was sorta evident she would end up this way based on how people were treating her.
obviously because she was always this terrible, I mean, did Rory ever stand up for her mother when Emily belittled Lorelai in front of her - no Rory has more from her grandmother than her own mother, and what she's missing the most is a spine, Rory's character is like a wet towel from the get go, just because she was career driven at the beginning, does not mean she was already a fully fledged character - yes Lorelai sheltered her and that too much, and that's why it was so easy because Rory never had any real aspirations of her own - Chilton wasn't her idea, it was Lorelai's and she trained Rory to be a good racing horse to get there, that's also the reason why she has this gifted child syndrome, because Lorelai treated her that way long before Starshollow
It also has to do with her goals: all She wanted was to enter university...a good one. After that she seems to not have clear ideas, for the first time she doesn't know what to do and she messes up. No one tells her to dream something again, it's all just s job or this or that, but never something to achieve. This drastic disillusion kills the character and at the end the whole storyline. It becomes just a life and it's so real that we don't like it anymore
I like to keep in mind that fault and responsibility are two different things. Whose fault is it? Probably mostly her parents' and grandparents', considering they're all pretty toxic in their own unique ways and honestly didn't do a great job raising her. But whose responsibility is it to work through those things and become a better person? 100% Rory's.
Money and power don't ruin a character. They show a person's real character. I really believe we see Rorys character and it is no one's fault, other than Rory's, that she is behaving in a certain way. She is 30something, she can decide what person she wants to be, how she wants to treat other people as well as picking her priorities in life.
I believe that part or the downfall was bc she started having problems like normal people and instead of getting over it, she would act badly and people in her life would just not care, and let it go. I know that lorelai is not perfect but i wouldn't blame her, lorelai did everything for her like any mother would do, and acted like anyone would in the situation. Not only that but when rory did something unacceptable she would be one of the only that would actually disagree with her.
I see why people blame Logan but he did mature and learn. She never did. Yes he was cheating in the revival but he was still much more responsible and real about life then she was.
Basically Rory was the fix it child. She was to become the daughter her grandparents couldn't find in Lorelai, and the sensible one in her mothers life who was still working through her childhood trauma of being thrust into adult world before she even knew herself. As Rory once said she always did everything she was asked. At the cross road when she could have stayed and studied at Stars Hollow school or gone to Chilton - she would have been best to have accepted her choice and learnt what it meant to work it out like her mum. She would have found quickly there are consequences for her decisions. Her need to please everyone and then be given endless love bombing from her grandparents lifestyle and her mothers sense she could do no wrong, placed her on a peddle stall that was bound to bring her crashing down , it was just a case of when. She spent the first 20 years of her life worrying about her mum and her grandparent's needs without really being given space emotionally to tend to her own development. The last ten to twelve years she was finally free but by then she was to immature in her emotional development and life experiences to cope well with knock backs, rejections and normal life coming at her. It was again though oddly enough , the story of her mum's life that would be her salvation and pathway to carve out a grove for her self through writing, and not her grandparent's wealthy lifestyle and connections. So in essence, if her mum had never gone to her parents and asked for the money for chilton and had to do Friday night dinners - Rory would have continued down her mothers path of working for what she got and she would have matured earlier as she would not have had to deal with the trauma between her mother and her parents by people pleasing. I thing Rory's parenting style will move more towards her mothers but with more maturity and boundaries. Her grandmother will have less impact as Luke's steady influence and possibly Jess's influence including her mum's finally settled feeling will allow her child to grow up in a more loving and balanced environment than she had.
It may not be that simple to find the exact explanation. Rory was shielded from "the evil outside world" basically until she was 16. Her mother was her best friend, the one influencing her constantly and Rory's life seemed to be good and easy (great grades and everyone in Stars Hollow loves her). Except for one little problem: In my opion one key to make it as an adult in this harsh world is to successfully make the transition from child to teenager and from teenager to adult. You have to learn to function on your own as good as possible. Rory was shielded from everything bad, she didn't know any real problems, but she didn't have a good role model and she definitely didn't get prepared how to handle the big harsh world outside of cosy Stars Hollow. She doesn't stand up against other people, she is easy influenced and manipulated by others. It's a bit hard to know if she could have done that or if she's more of an introvert and it's not for her to face people directly. She doesn't have a clear direction for her life. Her goal always seemed to go to Harvard but that shouldn't be your own goal for life! Her mother Lorelai with her free spirit mentality isn't a good role model. No father figure + the snobbish elitist grandparents preaching her wrong values + the elitist world of Chilton gets her disconnected from the real world. Stars Hollow seems to be the complete opposite of this elite school. As someone else wrote in the comments: Of course you should never blame everyone else but yourself. Rory consciously made bad decisions (cheating, being mean, letting criticism get to her much to easy, stealing a Yacht) but didn't learn to much from them. Maybe she felt entitled and that she could get away with things because she's THE Rory. She didn't seem to have a moral compass and she didn't really know what she wanted and what she didn't. And she didn't learn much from her mistakes.
I'm really enjoying your videos! I hope u can discuss a fundamental topic of the show: the social class ishue. It seems to me that, above everything else, it's about how society's values affects it's members, and how life should be if people where simplier as Stars Hollow's comic characters. That's an important critic over hight society artificiallity. There are similar topics like imigrants (europeans, latins, coreans...), feminism, etc.
She was a teenager in the beginning and normally she changed as she grew up. She is like us. We all change, we all DO change. get over it! this is what makes here real!
i don’t get why everyone hates logan. he was very realistic about his privilege and very honest and communicative. when they went on break, logan had never done relationships and didn’t know how she felt because she never communicated, and she didn’t communicate for a very long period of time. she was so used to everyone reading her and letting her lead she was blindsided by healthy communication. she held onto her resentment when they got back together instead of trying to resolve it. this is just one example but in my eyes everyone babied rory and did what she wanted, not what was best for her. people don’t like logan because he wasn’t the type of person they envisioned rory to be with, but he was the healthiest partner. her downfall was everyone bending to her will and her never learning the world doesn’t care about her.
This video doesn't highlight that Rory is also an adult and can make her own choices. So yes she has to take some blame as she knows right from wrong. She stole the boat and cheated on people etc. of her own accord. Accepting money wasn't a problem, nor was the private school. Lorelai was trying to give her a good education and make her child's dreams come true. Rory went to Chilton because she wanted to, unlike Lorelai who went to private school because she had to. Keeping her at Stars Hollow would have stifled her. Having her grandparents around might have been an opportunity to expand her support network if it had been done correctly. But the success she achieved at school made her think she would achieve success after school with hard work, which is a nasty shock many young people have. However, it does take a villiage to raise a child. Instead of supporting Rory together, her grandparents and her mother did not take the effort to parent with a united front and constantly tried to undermine each other to win her favour, so Rory could play them against each other to get her own way and never take responsibility. Lorelai never disciplined her either. She just got into an argument on Rory's level, when she is the parent, but never gave consequences. She said she was her friend first then her parent, which is a big no no and undermines her authority. Dating a teacher isn't wrong though as parents are entitled to their own social life. it happens a lot without issue. I agree Luke and the town exonerated her too much- ripping on Dean when Dean made a choice he was entitled to make and break up with her was uncalled for.
I completely agree with u abt Rory being an adult and making her own decisions. I think she slowly grew more and more entitled and stopped being held accountable for her actions. The point of this video was to analyse how and why she became so entitled and after rewatching the show I realised that It was because the people around her were treating her as though she was never at fault. Like when Lorelai blames the car accident fully on Jess and the yacht incident solely on Logan. All of their intentions were pure when enlisting Rory in Chilton, but unfortunately the exposure to her grandparents’ world was harmful for her. The chances of her getting into 3 ivy leagues schools without having connections or wealth is highly unlikely. Rory being blind to the fact that she had this privilege and feeling as though she was somehow superior to the other rich kids at Yale also set her up for failure. She was raised to believe that she earned everything she got and that she was never at fault and I believe this is the main reason as to why she became so entitled. This is why I say that her downfall isn’t entirely her fault. Obviously, she should still be held accountable to her actions but she was feed false information at an impressionable age so it’s obvious that this would have negative affects on her personality. What are your thoughts on this?
@@filmandsuchh Yes I believe we are products of our environment. I don't think exposing her to the grandparents' world was bad. There are lots of nice kids from wealthy backgrounds. It's just that she was never made to learn that all those privileges were just that- privileges not rights. Emily goes and helps out at women's groups and charity work. Rory was never made to do any of that. I do agree that she was never made to be at fault- and when she was- like hger mother pulled her up for sleeping with a married guy- she was never punished. Lorelai just got in a teenage fight with her and she'd run to her grandparents. And when she got in trouble with her grandparents she'd run to her mother or to Christopher. I think that was far more damaging than the wealth she was given- I mean the other private school kids like Paris, Tristan and Logan were entitled snobs. But they were resilient and realistic- probably because they still had one set of rules (except for Paris who had no one to stick up for her). Rory just weaved aay til she heard what she wanted to hear. I think she show is also reflective of slightly sexist parenting and ideologies. If Rory was a boy she wouldn't have gotten away with so much from either the town or her family. Because she wouldn't be a sweet little girl.
Yes, the wealthy world wasn’t very damaging, it was what came with that wealth and the impression it left rory with. I think the world of ther wealthy gave Rory another “safety net”, or in other words another place she could go after running away from her problems. This led her to believe she could get away with anything if she simply removed herself from the situation and set her up for failure in the future. You are completely right about the other rich kids and how no one set boundaries for rory. About the sexist ideology, I never thought of that but it honestly makes so much sense! One more thing, I think that she often didn’t acknowledge the privilege she had, she thought she was somehow better than the other rich kids because she came from a broken family dynamic and grew up without as much money as them. And while it’s true to a certain extent that she had to work harder to get where she got (motivation and drive), at the end of the day both the rich yale kids (logan, paris) and rory had an immense amount of privilege and if we are being realistic, they wouldn’t have had the opportunities they were given without this wealth. Rory ignoring her privilege and thinking she got everything she has simply because she worked harder than everyone else sets her up for failure in the future because she will realise that there are other people who are willing to work harder or have worked harder than her to get things she wants.
yes, i completely agree w u acc. but the point of this video was to say that we should cut her some slack bc she had bad influences in her life at a vulnerable age and it’s hard to come back from that. i’m still mad at her for the dean stuff and the yacht, but other things she’s often blamed for like dropping out of yale, i think those things were inevitable and forgivable to a certain extent.
@@filmandsuchh For sure, in the end she had to live up to the perfect person everyone made her out to be. I imagine that pressure eventually got to her, even if it seemed as if it was a certain event (like Logan's dad slapping her back to reality) that broke her. Rory was bound to hit "rock bottom"... So, I'm definitely not surprised with how much she's struggling as an adult. Although I do hope she gets her life together, and achieves everything she wants. That way it can show regardless of who you are (or who you think you are), you still need to work towards your goals. Which is a lesson Rory needs to learn if she wants to stop feeling bad for herself. Btw, my comment was to add onto your video not to take from it.❤️ I really enjoy when people analyze characters like Rory. Especially since at some point in my life I really looked up to her (as I assume most people watching the video could say the same).
you're so sweet and i loved your analysis! i agree with you 100%, i think the revival could have done so much more and shown her struggle, but at the end of the day, get her act together. I think throughout the original series (since rory is either a teenager or in her 20s) lots of the stuff she does is dismissed over the fact that she's still maturing and exploring. But in the revival, she's a 30 something year old, and needs to grow up and learn how to combat failure. It's sad to see that she hadn't figured that out by the revival, but I'm hoping she's doing better now.
The way she pauses in tree scene makes me think she only apologized because she was expecting him to give into her as a result because someone in stars hollow would have and when that didn’t work she resorted to money . Either way she expected to get her way
I mean the writing ultimately let her down but her Grandparents let her get away with everything & Logan was just a piece of crab. I hated that character not the actor but the character was just horrible, worse then Jess ever was..
Her grandparents practically ruined her. Logan ushered her into the world of the wealthy as well but I don’t think he was at fault as mush as her grandparents
I think Jess and Christopher because they both left her. She has abandonment issues and she probably was afraid to let new people in so she did the wrong with people she really knows and it broke her even more. Jess really loved rory and always did. They were the right people at the wrong time. Christopher just left rory which he shouldn't have don't but then tried to come back even after the damage was done. What's done is done and you can't ever change that. She stole a boat with Logan because she knew she could never do anything wrong but really wanted to. As she got older she wanted to be the typical teen but couldn't because of her reputation as a child. She always pressured herself to be better and to do the right thing even though she didn't want to anymore. I think those are the two main factors but there are definitely more. Lorelai spoiled rory because she was so good and because Lorelai couldn't have she wanted to make sure rory had the opportunity to. Richard and Emily spoiled rory with money because she was the perfect child Richard and Emily never got. This is also a reason rory pressured herself to not hurt her grandparents. Lane also contributed. Labe was always hiding things and rory probably wanted to know what it felt like to hide bad things from her mother and caused her to be even more pressured to be "that perfect girl" even more.
yea, she was left with SEVERE abandonment issues and this led her to do anything her boyfriends wanted in future relationships. it jeopardized so many relationships
I love how Gilmore Girls gives a reality check to not how only few people change someone (some may blame only* Richard and Emily for Rory becoming a brat) but the friends that person makes and the environment, can change someone far into the future and not just in the present; plus Rory has pretty privilege, she was privileged already as it is with her grandparents but also cuz of her pretty privilege. Also Gilmore Girls is a comedic and realistic show on to how much people change for better or for worse.
Yeah, the people that surround you most of the time make the biggest impression on you. When you have a best friend mother like Lorelai with her free spirit attempt at life while at the same time your entire town worshipps you, that probably made Rory think that life is great and easy and getting good grades will take her directly to her destination. Rory didn't get prepared for the real world at all. She's not good with conflict. She gets heavily influenced by the Chilton elitist crowd and her elitist grandparents. Rory lost touch with reality or was she never really in touch with reality to begin with? Getting told you're super great and you will succeed at university and basically everything in life constantly and then suddenly having to face "real people", real problems, real conflicts that you weren't prepared for, will be a huge shock for anyone. No, life isn't easy and people aren't always nice and good grades only get you so far. And letting your life being influenced by people with not the greatest intentions also can get you into trouble.
If Rory were as smart as she is presented to us early in the program, she would have recognized all the dynamics around her and would have made her path through them. In the early episodes, she is not a young thing to be formed - she starts as an early high school student when most people are to a great degree already the people they will become. So they present Rory as a very smart early teen, but a not so smart 20-something. I see that as the writer's problem.
Great vid! This is minor but I just wanted to let ya know you should've used "who's" in the thumbnail instead of "whose." You did use it correctly in the title though 😉
I don't know if I would classify Lorelei as a feminist tbh.. just because a woman works it doesn't make her one. And even if she were, I don't think that would have anything to do with her lack of parenting skills.
True. Rory got shielded from any real troubles until she got 16. The she met her snobbish grandparents, went to Chilton and suddenly her perfect little corner of the world was not the same anymore. Before that, she did her one thing: Study hard to go to a university. She didn't even question that. She prefered reading and watching movies with her mom while normal teens were doing group activities or other silly nonsense. While such a behaviour is the dream of any parent, it's not realistic. You cannot stay that way forever. Rory was booksmart but clueless on how to interact with the world outside and especially its people. Who are manipulative, complicated and mean. Suddenyl Rory was one of many and not special anymore. She had only one goal in mind: Go to university. But life isn't one dimensional. It's a big picture. Life isn't about memorising stuff and writing good marks. That can be relatively easy if your work ethic is alright. Dealing with every challenge life throws at you, especially moral questions that demand decisions can be very hard, especially with a mom like Lorelai and grandparents like Emily and Richard and Stars Hollow telling you how awesome you are.
@@filmandsuchh rory is ultimately responsible for her choices. Besides, there's plenty of people who don't let exposure to wealth affect them. She's just a plain elitist psycho
Thanks for this comment. I get where ur coming from bc yes at the end of the day ur responsable for ur choices. but a person is also a reflection of the way they were raised so the toxic environment she was raised in needs to be held accountable also-
she was exposed to a wealthy world when she was a vulnerable teenager, obviously it affected her. sorry let me clarify, I didn't mean to say she isn't at fault, I meant to say that she isn't the ONLY person who should be blamed. anyways, agree to disagree ig
It's the Palladinos fault, because of the beef they carried after leaving the original show, their obsession with Rory's last 3 words and them letting Netflix put in that stupid millennial shit in the revival. Because the true full circle of the show should have been Rory turning to a life that was more like Emily's, specially after she failed at getting her dream career.
Emily, Richard, and Logan made her a brat... no, it wasnt becoz of money.. it was how they made her feel, how they tolerated her at every chance.. Lorelai always kept her grounded. Dean and Jess also treated her like a real person..
She was always a bit bratty. So many times she treated Lane bad. She flipped if she did not get her way.
@@evelynjane4354 oh bull shit. Pay attention how she always doing stuff for Lane or how she let Lane stay with her in the dorm.
@@lauriecarson6483 she ignored lane when she was with Dean, got mad at her when Lane wanted to be a cheerleader, and didn’t introduce Lane to Logan until her 21st birthday.
@@lauriecarson6483 this
Well, maybe Lorlelai tried to keep her grounded, but she always talked (or better said 'bragged') about how amazing and intelligent Rory is
I think it's great the palladinos did that to her. Even though it's a comedy series they managed to keep it realistic. ( lane never becoming a rockstar, April not getting into chilton or an ivy school (bc she doesnt have the same privilege as rory), rory being able to afford to just fool around for 10 years refusing to take Jobs that are "beneath" her, while Lane has to work to feed her children...And even Lorelai running from her nepotism, still had adventages: she went into buisness, bc Richard for sure showed her from a young age how to manage it and he owns the insurance company for the Inn, emily did parties in the Inn leading to more high class customers...
Good point!
Chilton or not, it's mentioned that april was enrolled in MIT
@@TheMarkmcr mit is a great school, but not an ivy league
yep, she worked really hard and she got there. but her not getting into chilton while rory did was such an accurate representation of class and society. She has so much privilege and the show did a great way of portraying it realistically
@@veroboro4035 she aimed for MIT because it's more suited for her interests, not necessarily because it was easier to get into
Her downfall could have been because she was so mature and perfect in the first seasons. Then having this perfect personality as a kid and teenager could have left her feeling a need to rebel in her adult years. Find out what it's like to apply less pressure on herself. Though I do blame Lorellai for Rory being so mature, I think this could be one reason why she acted out of character in the later seasons.
yup, she definitely got burnt out from having to be the mature one all the time. and once she realised how it felt to let loose, she j spiraled.. What do you think abt Lorelai and Emily’s relationship dynamic?
@@filmandsuchh I think that Emily doesn't make effort to understand and accept lorelai, but lorelai tries so hard to understand her mother. They just had a REALLY bad therapist.
And they have serious communication issues. I think Emily may have influenced Lorelai on her thoughts of a high society being bad, and rich people being bad.
I don't know, it's a hard one to answer. I just hope that they can be civil one day.
Hers.
I think everyone spoiled her and ofc she took their words to heart, but she became a monster herself. She cheated, didn’t learn from that, and was not only with a married man but was forgetting the name of her boyfriend by the end, and she wasn’t working as hard as she saw her mom worked…this was on her.
Like I can see her getting bratty in the og series, she was a teen-young woman and that made sense (she had to be reminded of her privilege), but by the reboot…man…I just wish her mom went in on her more
Oh god don’t get me started in the reboot. Yea, i think her downfall was her fault but it was predictable throughout the show bc of how she was treated. I feel soo bad for lorelai…
I just hope the end of the reboot will teach what she’s doing wrong
@@filmandsuchh Even if she was sheltered by her mom and grandparents's wealth, there were also people around her who saw her for who she is. But she never really fixed any of her issues and instead she kept ignoring them. I guess that's why she ends up going back home to Lorelai and following in her footsteps etc.
I blame the grandparents because of how they handled Rory dropping out
Yea, I talk more about this on my new video, they ruined so many things for lorelai and rory. And this was one of those avoidable events. They should hv j listened to lorelai.
Why is nobody telling her how lazy, selfish and average she is! I still cannot understand why is everyone so inlove with her...
Her good girl act is very convincing
Love this video essay. I love seeing Gilmore girls video essays still being made. There’s so much to discuss! Rory was very spoiled and overly praised. Her chilton era was her best
Thank you so muchh!
yea, theres so much to talk abt because the show is so complex! lmk if you have any video suggestions
@@filmandsuchh will do! Will definitely be sticking around. You should watch this channel called Kierra loves TV she also does similar types of video essays, lots of gilmore girls videos too lol
@@WOWMAN.Yes! Love that channel, I’m referencing her in the next video I’m planning
Her mothers. Who treated her like she was to be the center of everyone’s universe, never held her accountable for anything and was more interested in being her friend
I agree! Over the last few watches I've been realizing more and more that it doesn't really seem to be Rory's fault that she went south. I think it's understandable on both sides. There were several times during the early episodes where Rory practically made herself sick with guilt after making mistakes, and those around her naturally responded by telling her it wasn't her fault, and she can't beat herself up over it. But as it progressed, it was pretty clear that mindset really stuck, that she wasn't really allowed to take responsibility for her action, until things started getting really serious with Dean, and then she was just in denial because that's sort of how she'd been trained. It's sad really. I do love the realism though. I don't think anyone meant for that to be the result.
Yes! This. Everyone around her treated her as though she was never at fault and obviously being fed this false information and a vulnerable age would have affected her…
This critique absolves Rory of all responsibility and makes the claim that she is simply a product of her circumstance. No one is. I think If Rory has a superpower its the ability to blend in and become what others want her to be , allowing her to hide in plain sight. She gets so good at being invisible that even she can’t find herself. She is left with no agenda of her own, and when she does try to be a separate person it is overly aggressive and makes little sense, such as stealing a boat or sleeping with a married man. The only character who consistently sees her for her is Jess, who acts as a wake up call for her with both Dean and Logan, and ultimately encourages her to write her book. Her story.
I don’t know, the point of this video was to analyze how and why she became so entitled as the series progressed and to me, it’s obvious that toxic forces affected her at a vulnerable age. I’m not saying she wasn’t to blame at all, I’m saying it was sorta evident she would end up this way based on how people were treating her.
obviously because she was always this terrible, I mean, did Rory ever stand up for her mother when Emily belittled Lorelai in front of her - no
Rory has more from her grandmother than her own mother, and what she's missing the most is a spine, Rory's character is like a wet towel from the get go, just because she was career driven at the beginning, does not mean she was already a fully fledged character - yes Lorelai sheltered her and that too much, and that's why it was so easy because Rory never had any real aspirations of her own - Chilton wasn't her idea, it was Lorelai's and she trained Rory to be a good racing horse to get there, that's also the reason why she has this gifted child syndrome, because Lorelai treated her that way long before Starshollow
It also has to do with her goals: all She wanted was to enter university...a
good one. After that she seems to not have clear ideas, for the first time she doesn't know what to do and she messes up. No one tells her to dream something again, it's all just s job or this or that, but never something to achieve. This drastic disillusion kills the character and at the end the whole storyline. It becomes just a life and it's so real that we don't like it anymore
I’ve never thought about this but it makes so much sense!
I like to keep in mind that fault and responsibility are two different things. Whose fault is it? Probably mostly her parents' and grandparents', considering they're all pretty toxic in their own unique ways and honestly didn't do a great job raising her. But whose responsibility is it to work through those things and become a better person? 100% Rory's.
Money and power don't ruin a character. They show a person's real character.
I really believe we see Rorys character and it is no one's fault, other than Rory's, that she is behaving in a certain way. She is 30something, she can decide what person she wants to be, how she wants to treat other people as well as picking her priorities in life.
yeah, all of what happened to her made her so realistic in a negative light bcuz how involved she was with other people.
I believe that part or the downfall was bc she started having problems like normal people and instead of getting over it, she would act badly and people in her life would just not care, and let it go. I know that lorelai is not perfect but i wouldn't blame her, lorelai did everything for her like any mother would do, and acted like anyone would in the situation. Not only that but when rory did something unacceptable she would be one of the only that would actually disagree with her.
I see why people blame Logan but he did mature and learn. She never did. Yes he was cheating in the revival but he was still much more responsible and real about life then she was.
When you see a year in the life
.....you see the results
Literally, the year in the life was like a fever dream
Basically Rory was the fix it child. She was to become the daughter her grandparents couldn't find in Lorelai, and the sensible one in her mothers life who was still working through her childhood trauma of being thrust into adult world before she even knew herself. As Rory once said she always did everything she was asked. At the cross road when she could have stayed and studied at Stars Hollow school or gone to Chilton - she would have been best to have accepted her choice and learnt what it meant to work it out like her mum. She would have found quickly there are consequences for her decisions. Her need to please everyone and then be given endless love bombing from her grandparents lifestyle and her mothers sense she could do no wrong, placed her on a peddle stall that was bound to bring her crashing down , it was just a case of when. She spent the first 20 years of her life worrying about her mum and her grandparent's needs without really being given space emotionally to tend to her own development. The last ten to twelve years she was finally free but by then she was to immature in her emotional development and life experiences to cope well with knock backs, rejections and normal life coming at her. It was again though oddly enough , the story of her mum's life that would be her salvation and pathway to carve out a grove for her self through writing, and not her grandparent's wealthy lifestyle and connections. So in essence, if her mum had never gone to her parents and asked for the money for chilton and had to do Friday night dinners - Rory would have continued down her mothers path of working for what she got and she would have matured earlier as she would not have had to deal with the trauma between her mother and her parents by people pleasing. I thing Rory's parenting style will move more towards her mothers but with more maturity and boundaries. Her grandmother will have less impact as Luke's steady influence and possibly Jess's influence including her mum's finally settled feeling will allow her child to grow up in a more loving and balanced environment than she had.
It may not be that simple to find the exact explanation. Rory was shielded from "the evil outside world" basically until she was 16. Her mother was her best friend, the one influencing her constantly and Rory's life seemed to be good and easy (great grades and everyone in Stars Hollow loves her). Except for one little problem: In my opion one key to make it as an adult in this harsh world is to successfully make the transition from child to teenager and from teenager to adult. You have to learn to function on your own as good as possible.
Rory was shielded from everything bad, she didn't know any real problems, but she didn't have a good role model and she definitely didn't get prepared how to handle the big harsh world outside of cosy Stars Hollow. She doesn't stand up against other people, she is easy influenced and manipulated by others. It's a bit hard to know if she could have done that or if she's more of an introvert and it's not for her to face people directly. She doesn't have a clear direction for her life. Her goal always seemed to go to Harvard but that shouldn't be your own goal for life! Her mother Lorelai with her free spirit mentality isn't a good role model. No father figure + the snobbish elitist grandparents preaching her wrong values + the elitist world of Chilton gets her disconnected from the real world. Stars Hollow seems to be the complete opposite of this elite school.
As someone else wrote in the comments: Of course you should never blame everyone else but yourself. Rory consciously made bad decisions (cheating, being mean, letting criticism get to her much to easy, stealing a Yacht) but didn't learn to much from them. Maybe she felt entitled and that she could get away with things because she's THE Rory. She didn't seem to have a moral compass and she didn't really know what she wanted and what she didn't. And she didn't learn much from her mistakes.
I'm really enjoying your videos! I hope u can discuss a fundamental topic of the show: the social class ishue. It seems to me that, above everything else, it's about how society's values affects it's members, and how life should be if people where simplier as Stars Hollow's comic characters. That's an important critic over hight society artificiallity. There are similar topics like imigrants (europeans, latins, coreans...), feminism, etc.
thanks! I'll definitely look into this for my next video
Love this analysis!!
She was a teenager in the beginning and normally she changed as she grew up. She is like us. We all change, we all DO change. get over it! this is what makes here real!
i don’t get why everyone hates logan. he was very realistic about his privilege and very honest and communicative. when they went on break, logan had never done relationships and didn’t know how she felt because she never communicated, and she didn’t communicate for a very long period of time. she was so used to everyone reading her and letting her lead she was blindsided by healthy communication. she held onto her resentment when they got back together instead of trying to resolve it. this is just one example but in my eyes everyone babied rory and did what she wanted, not what was best for her. people don’t like logan because he wasn’t the type of person they envisioned rory to be with, but he was the healthiest partner. her downfall was everyone bending to her will and her never learning the world doesn’t care about her.
This video doesn't highlight that Rory is also an adult and can make her own choices. So yes she has to take some blame as she knows right from wrong. She stole the boat and cheated on people etc. of her own accord. Accepting money wasn't a problem, nor was the private school. Lorelai was trying to give her a good education and make her child's dreams come true. Rory went to Chilton because she wanted to, unlike Lorelai who went to private school because she had to. Keeping her at Stars Hollow would have stifled her. Having her grandparents around might have been an opportunity to expand her support network if it had been done correctly. But the success she achieved at school made her think she would achieve success after school with hard work, which is a nasty shock many young people have.
However, it does take a villiage to raise a child. Instead of supporting Rory together, her grandparents and her mother did not take the effort to parent with a united front and constantly tried to undermine each other to win her favour, so Rory could play them against each other to get her own way and never take responsibility. Lorelai never disciplined her either. She just got into an argument on Rory's level, when she is the parent, but never gave consequences. She said she was her friend first then her parent, which is a big no no and undermines her authority. Dating a teacher isn't wrong though as parents are entitled to their own social life. it happens a lot without issue. I agree Luke and the town exonerated her too much- ripping on Dean when Dean made a choice he was entitled to make and break up with her was uncalled for.
I completely agree with u abt Rory being an adult and making her own decisions. I think she slowly grew more and more entitled and stopped being held accountable for her actions. The point of this video was to analyse how and why she became so entitled and after rewatching the show I realised that It was because the people around her were treating her as though she was never at fault. Like when Lorelai blames the car accident fully on Jess and the yacht incident solely on Logan. All of their intentions were pure when enlisting Rory in Chilton, but unfortunately the exposure to her grandparents’ world was harmful for her. The chances of her getting into 3 ivy leagues schools without having connections or wealth is highly unlikely. Rory being blind to the fact that she had this privilege and feeling as though she was somehow superior to the other rich kids at Yale also set her up for failure. She was raised to believe that she earned everything she got and that she was never at fault and I believe this is the main reason as to why she became so entitled. This is why I say that her downfall isn’t entirely her fault. Obviously, she should still be held accountable to her actions but she was feed false information at an impressionable age so it’s obvious that this would have negative affects on her personality. What are your thoughts on this?
@@filmandsuchh Yes I believe we are products of our environment. I don't think exposing her to the grandparents' world was bad. There are lots of nice kids from wealthy backgrounds. It's just that she was never made to learn that all those privileges were just that- privileges not rights. Emily goes and helps out at women's groups and charity work. Rory was never made to do any of that. I do agree that she was never made to be at fault- and when she was- like hger mother pulled her up for sleeping with a married guy- she was never punished. Lorelai just got in a teenage fight with her and she'd run to her grandparents. And when she got in trouble with her grandparents she'd run to her mother or to Christopher. I think that was far more damaging than the wealth she was given- I mean the other private school kids like Paris, Tristan and Logan were entitled snobs. But they were resilient and realistic- probably because they still had one set of rules (except for Paris who had no one to stick up for her). Rory just weaved aay til she heard what she wanted to hear. I think she show is also reflective of slightly sexist parenting and ideologies. If Rory was a boy she wouldn't have gotten away with so much from either the town or her family. Because she wouldn't be a sweet little girl.
Yes, the wealthy world wasn’t very damaging, it was what came with that wealth and the impression it left rory with. I think the world of ther wealthy gave Rory another “safety net”, or in other words another place she could go after running away from her problems. This led her to believe she could get away with anything if she simply removed herself from the situation and set her up for failure in the future. You are completely right about the other rich kids and how no one set boundaries for rory. About the sexist ideology, I never thought of that but it honestly makes so much sense! One more thing, I think that she often didn’t acknowledge the privilege she had, she thought she was somehow better than the other rich kids because she came from a broken family dynamic and grew up without as much money as them. And while it’s true to a certain extent that she had to work harder to get where she got (motivation and drive), at the end of the day both the rich yale kids (logan, paris) and rory had an immense amount of privilege and if we are being realistic, they wouldn’t have had the opportunities they were given without this wealth. Rory ignoring her privilege and thinking she got everything she has simply because she worked harder than everyone else sets her up for failure in the future because she will realise that there are other people who are willing to work harder or have worked harder than her to get things she wants.
It was her own fault. Sure you can be influenced by other people, but in the end it's up to you to make your own decisions.
yes, i completely agree w u acc. but the point of this video was to say that we should cut her some slack bc she had bad influences in her life at a vulnerable age and it’s hard to come back from that. i’m still mad at her for the dean stuff and the yacht, but other things she’s often blamed for like dropping out of yale, i think those things were inevitable and forgivable to a certain extent.
@@filmandsuchh For sure, in the end she had to live up to the perfect person everyone made her out to be. I imagine that pressure eventually got to her, even if it seemed as if it was a certain event (like Logan's dad slapping her back to reality) that broke her. Rory was bound to hit "rock bottom"... So, I'm definitely not surprised with how much she's struggling as an adult. Although I do hope she gets her life together, and achieves everything she wants. That way it can show regardless of who you are (or who you think you are), you still need to work towards your goals. Which is a lesson Rory needs to learn if she wants to stop feeling bad for herself. Btw, my comment was to add onto your video not to take from it.❤️ I really enjoy when people analyze characters like Rory. Especially since at some point in my life I really looked up to her (as I assume most people watching the video could say the same).
you're so sweet and i loved your analysis! i agree with you 100%, i think the revival could have done so much more and shown her struggle, but at the end of the day, get her act together. I think throughout the original series (since rory is either a teenager or in her 20s) lots of the stuff she does is dismissed over the fact that she's still maturing and exploring. But in the revival, she's a 30 something year old, and needs to grow up and learn how to combat failure. It's sad to see that she hadn't figured that out by the revival, but I'm hoping she's doing better now.
The way she pauses in tree scene makes me think she only apologized because she was expecting him to give into her as a result because someone in stars hollow would have and when that didn’t work she resorted to money . Either way she expected to get her way
Corporate elitist mentality
I mean the writing ultimately let her down but her Grandparents let her get away with everything & Logan was just a piece of crab. I hated that character not the actor but the character was just horrible, worse then Jess ever was..
Her grandparents practically ruined her. Logan ushered her into the world of the wealthy as well but I don’t think he was at fault as mush as her grandparents
I think Jess and Christopher because they both left her. She has abandonment issues and she probably was afraid to let new people in so she did the wrong with people she really knows and it broke her even more. Jess really loved rory and always did. They were the right people at the wrong time. Christopher just left rory which he shouldn't have don't but then tried to come back even after the damage was done. What's done is done and you can't ever change that. She stole a boat with Logan because she knew she could never do anything wrong but really wanted to. As she got older she wanted to be the typical teen but couldn't because of her reputation as a child. She always pressured herself to be better and to do the right thing even though she didn't want to anymore. I think those are the two main factors but there are definitely more. Lorelai spoiled rory because she was so good and because Lorelai couldn't have she wanted to make sure rory had the opportunity to. Richard and Emily spoiled rory with money because she was the perfect child Richard and Emily never got. This is also a reason rory pressured herself to not hurt her grandparents. Lane also contributed. Labe was always hiding things and rory probably wanted to know what it felt like to hide bad things from her mother and caused her to be even more pressured to be "that perfect girl" even more.
yea, she was left with SEVERE abandonment issues and this led her to do anything her boyfriends wanted in future relationships. it jeopardized so many relationships
Yeah unfortunately she became her own wrost person. When she gets pregnant it makes me wonder how she turned out as a mom.
Oh my god I've never thought of that-
I love how Gilmore Girls gives a reality check to not how only few people change someone (some may blame only* Richard and Emily for Rory becoming a brat) but the friends that person makes and the environment, can change someone far into the future and not just in the present; plus Rory has pretty privilege, she was privileged already as it is with her grandparents but also cuz of her pretty privilege.
Also Gilmore Girls is a comedic and realistic show on to how much people change for better or for worse.
Yeah, the people that surround you most of the time make the biggest impression on you. When you have a best friend mother like Lorelai with her free spirit attempt at life while at the same time your entire town worshipps you, that probably made Rory think that life is great and easy and getting good grades will take her directly to her destination.
Rory didn't get prepared for the real world at all. She's not good with conflict. She gets heavily influenced by the Chilton elitist crowd and her elitist grandparents. Rory lost touch with reality or was she never really in touch with reality to begin with? Getting told you're super great and you will succeed at university and basically everything in life constantly and then suddenly having to face "real people", real problems, real conflicts that you weren't prepared for, will be a huge shock for anyone. No, life isn't easy and people aren't always nice and good grades only get you so far. And letting your life being influenced by people with not the greatest intentions also can get you into trouble.
If Rory were as smart as she is presented to us early in the program, she would have recognized all the dynamics around her and would have made her path through them. In the early episodes, she is not a young thing to be formed - she starts as an early high school student when most people are to a great degree already the people they will become. So they present Rory as a very smart early teen, but a not so smart 20-something. I see that as the writer's problem.
Great vid! This is minor but I just wanted to let ya know you should've used "who's" in the thumbnail instead of "whose." You did use it correctly in the title though 😉
Thanks for letting me know :)
Rory grew up without a dad and her mother was a feminist working mom who didn’t parent her. Not sure what we expected. 🤷🏼♀️
I don't know if I would classify Lorelei as a feminist tbh.. just because a woman works it doesn't make her one. And even if she were, I don't think that would have anything to do with her lack of parenting skills.
True. Rory got shielded from any real troubles until she got 16. The she met her snobbish grandparents, went to Chilton and suddenly her perfect little corner of the world was not the same anymore. Before that, she did her one thing: Study hard to go to a university. She didn't even question that.
She prefered reading and watching movies with her mom while normal teens were doing group activities or other silly nonsense. While such a behaviour is the dream of any parent, it's not realistic. You cannot stay that way forever. Rory was booksmart but clueless on how to interact with the world outside and especially its people. Who are manipulative, complicated and mean. Suddenyl Rory was one of many and not special anymore.
She had only one goal in mind: Go to university. But life isn't one dimensional. It's a big picture. Life isn't about memorising stuff and writing good marks. That can be relatively easy if your work ethic is alright. Dealing with every challenge life throws at you, especially moral questions that demand decisions can be very hard, especially with a mom like Lorelai and grandparents like Emily and Richard and Stars Hollow telling you how awesome you are.
The grandparents...
*Who's ≠ Whose*
I don't see her as a good person at all
No me either, I just think it wasn’t entirely her fault that she did such bad things.
@@filmandsuchh rory is ultimately responsible for her choices. Besides, there's plenty of people who don't let exposure to wealth affect them. She's just a plain elitist psycho
Thanks for this comment. I get where ur coming from bc yes at the end of the day ur responsable for ur choices. but a person is also a reflection of the way they were raised so the toxic environment she was raised in needs to be held accountable also-
@@filmandsuchh except that rory spent her childhood in near poverty. There's simply something wrong with her
she was exposed to a wealthy world when she was a vulnerable teenager, obviously it affected her. sorry let me clarify, I didn't mean to say she isn't at fault, I meant to say that she isn't the ONLY person who should be blamed. anyways, agree to disagree ig
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It's the Palladinos fault, because of the beef they carried after leaving the original show, their obsession with Rory's last 3 words and them letting Netflix put in that stupid millennial shit in the revival. Because the true full circle of the show should have been Rory turning to a life that was more like Emily's, specially after she failed at getting her dream career.
@poiled spoiled