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To the critics, the dude showed you how to easily build the truss. For what he is building it for it's probably fine. To the people who just want to act like they know so much more, why the hell did you come to watch the video if you already know, Einstein? If you think yours need to be stronger then build it with nails or even bolts. Doesn't matter. It's a design of a truss. Personally, I was just looking at different designs and how to lay them out easier and quicker. For this truss he seems to have a good system and could have that structure up in no time. The jig is a damn good idea.
Hey Jon, I just watched your video! I am a builder and while I’ve been a carpenter over 35 years, I think you did a great job but one thing I wanted to point out is that when I built my 12x16 shed in 2005, I was told by the county building department that I could not build trusses. I was told that they needed to be engineered, stamped and made by a certified truss manufacturer. I argued that it’s a “shed” not a living dwelling. Eventually they allowed me to do it myself. The trusses I built were for a Gambrel truss. Still strong as the day I built them. This was meant to be informative to everyone watching your videos to consult with the proper code departments before building. Great video!!!
Your video is well above average. Steady video, clear audio, zero attempt to be witty or cute, and no wasted time telling stories. This video plus some common sense will carry you far.
My first thought was how you spent the time doing this video, and after reading the posts my second thought was, people are so critical. I bet you love coming here to read a bunch of people telling you what you did wrong. I say thanks I'll do it just as shown. Great stuff.
I would like to say out of the hundreds of hours I have spent studying online how to build videos and articles, your's explain things is such an easy way for me to understand. Your instructions are very precise and give enough detail to not leave one questioning. Thank you!
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Hey Jon. I watch a lot of your videos because 1. You are clear and informative. 2. You don't use gimmicks to keep us interested. 3. You cover a wide range of styles (art, furniture, construction etc.) and 4. You seem like the nicest guy out there. Keep it up and good luck. Joshua
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John - your explanation was fantastic. Having built a shed with trusses, I struggled with the layout. The use of the cleats and the birds mouth alternative was brilliant.
Jon Peters this video is GREAT! THANKS FOR POSTING! I've done some framing, but needed a simple truss design for my limited budget, and also salvage some wood. My boyfriend and I went to install them yesterday and for a 'girl' ... and an old guy...hehee... They went right up! I watched your video and found another one on standing trusses where they used a spacer block at the top of the truss as a nailer. My brother and nephew stopped by and were Amazed at how quickly things went up! My brother can do anything and I do tile and stone, so I beamed when he looked at my boyfriend and said "She musta thought this one out". Thanks again man!
This is one of the greatest YT vids I've ever seen. Well done. Informative, concise, and entertaining. I sift through tons of crap and it all becomes worth it to find thoughtful, intelligent productions like this.
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Thanks for the video content! Excuse me for the intrusion, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you tried - Mahorrla Wooden Paradise Method (do a google search)? It is a smashing one off product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my best friend Jordan got excellent success with it.
I would just like to ask all the people below commenting on all the things this man is doing wrong, where are your video's then so we can all see how you do it and it would be interesting to see what the comments are below your video's? Yes I am not disputing the safety issues of no safety glasses or saw guards here, however the quality of this mans work is not any issue at all.
Wayne Holmes, have you ever returned an undercooked steak at a restaurant, complained about a plumber who did a poor job, or voted against a politician who did things you think are wrong? Where is your restaurant or plumbing company and when were you President of the United States? You stupid fucking idiot.
Lee Josh took my words: This is one of the greatest YT vids I've ever seen. Well done. Informative, concise, and entertaining. I sift through tons of crap and it all becomes worth it to find thoughtful, intelligent productions like this. The jig idea, laid out on the shed floor, is simple but very useful. Why hasn't someone done this before? Your transitions were professional. Thank you for not figuring out your problems on screen...guys who suggest something, it didn't work, so they self correct on video. The cleat was an interesting work-around. I'm not a professional builder, but I've been in building projects and laying out rafters since I was 14. I've never seen anyone do that. But I like it, because it doesn't compromise the strength of the rafter overhang. Excellent, excellent work.
I used to be able to kneel on sheets of ply, years ago. I can't now, as I have artificial knee joints; because I never bothered with knee-pads when I was at work! Hope you don't suffer the same Jon. Thanks for this video. My shed ain't so big, but the principle is the same! Cheers
Hi, I just watched the video for the base of the shed, and the one for the roof trusses. They are immensely helpful, very detailed and good camera work.
Also in Australia most Radiata (Monterey) Pine roof trusses are made from 2 x 4 stock. Larger stock is only used if they are to span large areas. Strength can be added by instaling more 'W' bracing between the bottom cord (ceiling joist) & undersides of rafters making them strong enough at 450mm (16inch) centres to carry terra cotta or cement tile roofs (a truss for a corrugated iron roof does not need anywhere near that sort of strength as its not carrying the weight of roof tiles)
If I were doing your design I would place the 2x4 at the top of your ply gussetts that way dust and junk doesn't keep falling into that trough you made, year after year. Also use PL instead of liquid Nails and real construction screws instead of drywall screws.
Matthias Wandel did a scientific test that proved drywall screws are the strongest of any other screw type. Mind you, a construction screw would be more pliable if the roof truss deflects over time, whereas a drywall screw would have the risk of snapping due to the lack of ductility.
Hi there, cool video that's interesting that you made a jig for your trusses. I would use nails for the truss gussets simply because of shear strength, screws have a tendency to snap, but I'm sure it will work anyway with the glue since there wont be much loadbearing. Cheers
I'm building a garden playhouse for my kids and the part that had me most worried was the roof - in particular cutting the birds mouth to support the rafters. I love the cleats idea - saves cutting the birds mouth, and if you don't get it exactly right the first time, you can remove the cleat and try again without wasting a whole rafter. Also love your garden by the way...
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Nice work, very easy to learn, step by step, good for beginners. I think there are not a lot of films which are good to teach people how to start work like this... One nice thing to add: showing the degrees, used tools & materials... maybe costs... = almost perfect DIY Video about Barns... greatings from Germany
Great video, can't believe some of the negative comments, if people want to use different screws then do it, personally for jobs like these I use drywall screws as well they hold up just fine but each to their own. Thanks for posting the video. Nice job !!
***** I wasn't bashing. If that is always your first thought, you must live a miserable life to not want to improve and make things easier on yourself. WhatEVER!
I came here to thank you for wonderful and such an easy way to do the most of important part of roof. This is the one of the best informative videos so far. Some DIY guys makes easy job so complicated ( maybe on purpose ) so one need to watch the same video 10 times to learn something . Grate video and excellent job.
Thanks for putting this up Jon. one of the easiest ways I've seen it done. Am in the process of building a shed and was trying to figure out how to get the trusses done. You make it a no brainer.
As a former home builder and president of a home builder's association, the thing to keep in mind here is the intended use of these trusses is for a small equipment shed or barn. Most jurisdictions don't have strenuous building code specifications for sheds or barns. There are not considered critical buildings nor intended to be extremely sturdy structures. As stated, this build was for a place to house a lawn mower and garden equipment, not for a family residence. The point being is that use of simple construction techniques and/or building materials that are not robust quality isn't all that important. True, the shed might not withstand storms or weather conditions nor last as long as it would if better quality materials were used, but frankly a drywall or deck screw will likely hold that shed up just as well as any other fastener would for the period of time that the shed might logically last. If your goal is to make as long a lasting shed as possible, there are certainly materials and techniques available to do just that. But if cost and simplicity is a factor, then use of cheaper fasteners like drywall screws is a workable answer, particularly if you happen to have some left over drywall screws lying around. While the possible use of these trusses was mentioned in construction of a tiny house, I'd advise against doing that. Residential construction of any type of dwelling, tiny or gigantic, needs to be done to meet the building codes. Some tiny house construction may be possible without meeting codes but it's not a good idea. No one wants the roof collapsing on you in a windstorm or when a branch falls because you used inferior construction materials or techniques. A shed collapsing on your lawn mower isn't a big deal. A tiny house roof falling on your infant in its crib is! This is a very well done video showing good construction practices, although I agree that a greater focus on safety would have been appropriate. Take the video for what it is....a demonstration of a methodology for simple roof truss construction....and use it for your benefit rather than degrading every possible issue that you can spot. Good work, Jon. Thanks for your time in making this video. It truly will help many people.
Second time I've seen a video using this style of truss. It looks a bit like a castrated King Post truss. In the NE, I would add that vertical element back for snow load, or as you mentioned decent sized limb strike. Also, I might be wrong, however all the trusses I see have the bottom chord resting on the rim for support. In John's example, the bottom chord is simple held on by some screws. Again, fine for a small lawn mower shed, but I wouldn't even build my small 14x18 workshop with that kind of truss.
Really nice presentation. I would caution your viewers not to use (deck) screws for anything structural other than a small shed or dog house. They have poor sheer strength. Drive a (deck) screw half way into a block, hit it from the side with a hammer it with snap right off. Do the same with a nail and you’ll just bend it some. Screws are for production, not structure. Also that cleat is very wrong. The entire weight of the roof would be a side load on a high carbon screw. A high wind storm or snow load could easily collapse a roof built like that. That being said, your delivery of information was top notch. Nice job on the video and thanks for sharing.
I agree that deck/drywall/general construction screws would not be proper to resist a shear load but I am curious to how the adhesive effects the resistance to that load (liquid nails would be about as much as chewing gum). Do you think with a better adhesive (would tight bond 2 be proper here?) that his method would be ok? Did he say what kind of screw was being used, don't modern structural screws have nail like shear resistance with added pull out resistance and clamping of a screw? Wouldn't the cleat only be experiencing a percentage of the weight? The rafter would be caring a great deal almost directly into the wall below with the cleat wedged between. The percentage felt at the peak and/or the cleat screws would need to be enough to shear it. If brackets were added it would also lessen that percentage. Please don't take my response as criticism to you or your post, just thinking out-loud while testing a thrown to flange and floor connection. Biggest thing to take from this video would be his jig method and organization.
Also the rafter tie needs to be a 1/3 of the up from the top plate. When only half way, the rafters will bend and push out the walls. Probably not a big deal with a tiny house, but still relevant
Nicely done! The jig (and all the other little aids you've shown) really work to reduce to variability (and problems) one can encounter later in the building process.
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Some plywood screws are black. These may not be drywall screws. What bothers be about the video is that he's not wearing any sort of eye or ear protection and doesn't even mention it.
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This is exactly what I needed to see. On the shed I am buildinggI want to have the cross brace raised above wall height for storage reasons, thanks for the video!
Great truss design! I feel they would be pretty easy to build and plenty strong. I like that you can get the extra storage space and have an overhang, and without a plywood plate at the birds mouth you can use normal 1.5" truss ties if you choose.
First thought that come to mind is that space between the plywood and 2x4 trusses if thats a outside shed some critter is going to make a nest in that why not put a second 2x4 in to close the opening heck a 2x3 or a 2x2 would be good enough Or rip the 2x4 cross brace lenght wise and trim it to fit for the upper section of the box beam Your creating I tend to over engineer things when I building from My own ideas And I under stand this vid is for the aveage homeowner who may have built anything this big before The screw on birdsmouth is pure Genuis
Best safety reminder I've ever had was my first cabinet shop out of High School, old guy I worked with had first digit missing from bird finger , all I had to do was check him out.
What a simple but effective video. Too many videos fly through it far too quickly whilst going ballistic with a nail gun. I also really like the idea of building a jig to hold everything in place. Top notch!
Do you build your shed alone? Anyway, sharing your knowledge on how to build roof truss systems for sheds are very interesting. Through this video, I can be able to build any storage shed by simply watching this. I will humbly endorse this post to all my friends.
Great Tutorial Video! i'm planning on building a small shed and I've been reluctant because of the roof but your video just made it look doable and it was very informative. Now I feel like I can start my project and have a good outcome. Thanks Jon!
I like all of it except the way you attached the cleat for the truss to sit on the wall. I would probably have sandwiched it with the plywood as well just to make it a stronger joint.
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Ummm just thought I'd throw in the mix that at 5:12 when Jon is attaching the cleat to create the false birds mouth to sit on the wall top plate the screw box clearly is marked deckfast NOT drywall fast….just saying
Nice and solid construction , the glue combined with the plywood probably makes the truss way more stronger then engineered ones. I think a pneumatic nailer would definitely speed the process up.
im looking to build a small cabin with a friend. Would benefit tremendously from vids on how to do the wallls, install the roof on the trusses. Basically a series on how to build a cabin/shed start to finish.
How funny............my brothers and I built a shed a few years back and built our trusses the exact same way. set up a big jig etc. Thanks for sharing.
Good vid. Trusses are one of the few things I haven't made. Now I'd be quite happy trying my hand at it. Btw love the location where this was filmed. Nice & peaceful woodland :)
Great vid bud, thanks for posting. Great editing on the vid, straight forward and easy teaching.... I don't know about that missing guard on your saw....
The other point the 2x4's are plenty sufficient . Jon is only knocking up a shed big enough for the ride on mower and a few garden tools. He is not building your 5 bedroom house with 6 bathrooms with under cover parking for 4x4 trucks and some dirt bikes. Horses for courses. bigger the structure bigger the timbers. Love your work Jon Peters
+Patrick Fagan Thanks I was aware of that, just wanted to point out that those screws are useless and should not be used, rather, as you mentioned, glue and proper nails.
+DeeInTheHouse You would have to nail with the appropriate angle, else the nails will pull right out of that design. Structural wood screws would be a more appropriate choice (not just long deck screws). They are designed to have the same sheer strength as nails, but won't pull out like a nail will. But really, given the nature of adding cleats vs cutting a notch in a wider piece of wood, the addition of glue (as you had mentioned) as well as a gang plate, would be good.
I was immediately thinking the same. Drywall screw = major fail. People need to be careful believing everything they see on the Internet.. Informative videos can also have gross negligence in them when using lack of knowledge. Understand tensile strength and shear strength of all fasteners first.
I was hoping to see how to get the angles. I have made a few sheds and they have came out well. Still searching for a video that explains a little better.
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I love that you use the deck to make a jig and get the exact dimensions of the roof pitch. How did you determine the pitch angle for the rafters? Did you use a speed square or did you just know the angle and adjusted your chopsaw to it.? Great job and don't worry about any negative comments. That's coming from a carpenter/builder/craftsman with more than 40 years experience. You did just fine...
I agree with using the floor as a platform for building trusses. i kinda disagree with a lot of the rest. And yes. this is from experience. I have built multiple houses and a couple of sheds. Where are my videos? I was kinda busy making stuff.
Mate really love your technic I'm planning to build a 3 x 3 metre cubby house so thank you for going to the effort to make and upload your experience Thanks for down under
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Your only building a small shed. Wow we have the critics here. Maybe they should be posting their own video some where lol. Great job and thanks for the video.
I noticed you were using a Shockwave screw tip in your drill. Do you like them? I used them when they first came out. I had a problem with them breaking a lot. So I gave the rest I had left away. I really didn't care for them tbh. One persons trash is another man's treasure.
Overall not bad. I would use nails or staples of black screws (to brittle of a metal with not sheer strength). Glue does help I’d also use a 2x6 and have the plywood gusset the same width (less of a spider habitat as sheds can be) And lastly, that chop saw is terrifying
Some comments, your system is likely fine...it's a shed... But consider the cross brace...very little if any strength in the truss is added by the plywood beyond the attachment to each end of the 2x4 cross brace. In other words its optimized by a triangular gusset with 6.5 inch legs with your design. That should be sufficient for that span, but you could test the flex in the system yourself by putting your body weight on an upright truss and compare a few design variations. If you want a stronger system, lower the placement of the 2x4. A sheet of plywood will yield over 90 - 7" gussets...that's less cost for the same strength. Also, nails and glue will be the same strength...the glue joint is stronger than the wood. Even staples are ok. The joint strength would be the same if the pieces were just clamped together until the glue dried, or if the screws were removed after the glue was dry. Not suggesting that, it's just an example but I would be more careful to spread the glue evenly for full bonding strength. I'd glue and nail the birds mouth block as well.
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To the critics, the dude showed you how to easily build the truss. For what he is building it for it's probably fine. To the people who just want to act like they know so much more, why the hell did you come to watch the video if you already know, Einstein? If you think yours need to be stronger then build it with nails or even bolts. Doesn't matter. It's a design of a truss. Personally, I was just looking at different designs and how to lay them out easier and quicker. For this truss he seems to have a good system and could have that structure up in no time. The jig is a damn good idea.
Hey Jon, I just watched your video! I am a builder and while I’ve been a carpenter over 35 years, I think you did a great job but one thing I wanted to point out is that when I built my 12x16 shed in 2005, I was told by the county building department that I could not build trusses. I was told that they needed to be engineered, stamped and made by a certified truss manufacturer. I argued that it’s a “shed” not a living dwelling. Eventually they allowed me to do it myself. The trusses I built were for a Gambrel truss. Still strong as the day I built them. This was meant to be informative to everyone watching your videos to consult with the proper code departments before building. Great video!!!
Your video is well above average. Steady video, clear audio, zero attempt to be witty or cute, and no wasted time telling stories. This video plus some common sense will carry you far.
My first thought was how you spent the time doing this video, and after reading the posts my second thought was, people are so critical. I bet you love coming here to read a bunch of people telling you what you did wrong. I say thanks I'll do it just as shown. Great stuff.
comments are good for the economy, The overly critical only know negative cuz they never do anything creative themselves
I would like to say out of the hundreds of hours I have spent studying online how to build videos and articles, your's explain things is such an easy way for me to understand. Your instructions are very precise and give enough detail to not leave one questioning. Thank you!
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Hey Jon. I watch a lot of your videos because 1. You are clear and informative. 2. You don't use gimmicks to keep us interested. 3. You cover a wide range of styles (art, furniture, construction etc.) and 4. You seem like the nicest guy out there. Keep it up and good luck. Joshua
Thanks man, have a great weekend
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John - your explanation was fantastic. Having built a shed with trusses, I struggled with the layout. The use of the cleats and the birds mouth alternative was brilliant.
Jon Peters this video is GREAT! THANKS FOR POSTING! I've done some framing, but needed a simple truss design for my limited budget, and also salvage some wood. My boyfriend and I went to install them yesterday and for a 'girl' ... and an old guy...hehee... They went right up! I watched your video and found another one on standing trusses where they used a spacer block at the top of the truss as a nailer. My brother and nephew stopped by and were Amazed at how quickly things went up! My brother can do anything and I do tile and stone, so I beamed when he looked at my boyfriend and said "She musta thought this one out". Thanks again man!
This is one of the greatest YT vids I've ever seen. Well done. Informative, concise, and entertaining. I sift through tons of crap and it all becomes worth it to find thoughtful, intelligent productions like this.
Thanks Lee....glad you enjoyed it
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Thanks for the video content! Excuse me for the intrusion, I am interested in your thoughts. Have you tried - Mahorrla Wooden Paradise Method (do a google search)? It is a smashing one off product for building better sheds and woodworking minus the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my best friend Jordan got excellent success with it.
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Jon I commend you for your attention to detail and your common sense explanation as to why and how you are building your projects.
I would just like to ask all the people below commenting on all the things this man is doing wrong, where are your video's then so we can all see how you do it and it would be interesting to see what the comments are below your video's? Yes I am not disputing the safety issues of no safety glasses or saw guards here, however the quality of this mans work is not any issue at all.
most of the people are prolly out WORKING the trades and have ZERO time to make a proper video?
Or going to school to learn pronunciation and spelling.
I see you have volunteered to be the first case in point for Wayne Holmes reasonable comment.
Sirios Star well said
Wayne Holmes, have you ever returned an undercooked steak at a restaurant, complained about a plumber who did a poor job, or voted against a politician who did things you think are wrong? Where is your restaurant or plumbing company and when were you President of the United States? You stupid fucking idiot.
Yes, it’s obnoxious, but “where’s your video” is not a valid argument.
Lee Josh took my words:
This is one of the greatest YT vids I've ever seen. Well done. Informative, concise, and entertaining. I sift through tons of crap and it all becomes worth it to find thoughtful, intelligent productions like this.
The jig idea, laid out on the shed floor, is simple but very useful. Why hasn't someone done this before?
Your transitions were professional.
Thank you for not figuring out your problems on screen...guys who suggest something, it didn't work, so they self correct on video.
The cleat was an interesting work-around. I'm not a professional builder, but I've been in building projects and laying out rafters since I was 14. I've never seen anyone do that. But I like it, because it doesn't compromise the strength of the rafter overhang.
Excellent, excellent work.
I used to be able to kneel on sheets of ply, years ago. I can't now, as I have artificial knee joints; because I never bothered with knee-pads when I was at work! Hope you don't suffer the same Jon. Thanks for this video. My shed ain't so big, but the principle is the same! Cheers
Hi, I just watched the video for the base of the shed, and the one for the roof trusses. They are immensely helpful, very detailed and good camera work.
Also in Australia most Radiata (Monterey) Pine roof trusses are made from 2 x 4 stock. Larger stock is only used if they are to span large areas. Strength can be added by instaling more 'W' bracing between the bottom cord (ceiling joist) & undersides of rafters making them strong enough at 450mm (16inch) centres to carry terra cotta or cement tile roofs (a truss for a corrugated iron roof does not need anywhere near that sort of strength as its not carrying the weight of roof tiles)
If I were doing your design I would place the 2x4 at the top of your ply gussetts that way dust and junk doesn't keep falling into that trough you made, year after year. Also use PL instead of liquid Nails and real construction screws instead of drywall screws.
Matthias Wandel did a scientific test that proved drywall screws are the strongest of any other screw type. Mind you, a construction screw would be more pliable if the roof truss deflects over time, whereas a drywall screw would have the risk of snapping due to the lack of ductility.
I'm wondering why the 2x4 collar with gussets to the rafters without the plywood on both sides wouldn't be strong enough for a storage shed.
JIG SCREWED INTO SUBFLOOR! B R I L L I A N T ! ! !
That step is going to really help me with my cabin build, THANK YOU!!!
Hi there, cool video that's interesting that you made a jig for your trusses. I would use nails for the truss gussets simply because of shear strength, screws have a tendency to snap, but I'm sure it will work anyway with the glue since there wont be much loadbearing. Cheers
I'm building a garden playhouse for my kids and the part that had me most worried was the roof - in particular cutting the birds mouth to support the rafters.
I love the cleats idea - saves cutting the birds mouth, and if you don't get it exactly right the first time, you can remove the cleat and try again without wasting a whole rafter.
Also love your garden by the way...
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you make it look it easy. that's a good system, laying it out on the floor and screwing cleats into place. thanks.
Thank god! Finally a strong, easy truss design with a clear video. Maybe today (building trusses for my first time)won't be so bad after all!
Nice work, very easy to learn, step by step, good for beginners. I think there are not a lot of films which are good to teach people how to start work like this...
One nice thing to add: showing the degrees, used tools & materials... maybe costs...
= almost perfect DIY Video about Barns...
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Great video, can't believe some of the negative comments, if people want to use different screws then do it, personally for jobs like these I use drywall screws as well they hold up just fine but each to their own.
Thanks for posting the video. Nice job !!
VideoNOLA What does it matter? The braces were glued as well...
I would use GRK torx-type screws,....stronger, larger in diameter and easier to drive!
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I wasn't bashing. If that is always your first thought, you must live a miserable life to not want to improve and make things easier on yourself. WhatEVER!
Guess I missed the hurricane comment... I apologize!!
I came here to thank you for wonderful and such an easy way to do the most of important part of roof. This is the one of the best informative videos so far. Some DIY guys makes easy job so complicated ( maybe on purpose ) so one need to watch the same video 10 times to learn something . Grate video and excellent job.
Thanks for putting this up Jon. one of the easiest ways I've seen it done. Am in the process of building a shed and was trying to figure out how to get the trusses done. You make it a no brainer.
As a former home builder and president of a home builder's association, the thing to keep in mind here is the intended use of these trusses is for a small equipment shed or barn. Most jurisdictions don't have strenuous building code specifications for sheds or barns. There are not considered critical buildings nor intended to be extremely sturdy structures. As stated, this build was for a place to house a lawn mower and garden equipment, not for a family residence.
The point being is that use of simple construction techniques and/or building materials that are not robust quality isn't all that important. True, the shed might not withstand storms or weather conditions nor last as long as it would if better quality materials were used, but frankly a drywall or deck screw will likely hold that shed up just as well as any other fastener would for the period of time that the shed might logically last. If your goal is to make as long a lasting shed as possible, there are certainly materials and techniques available to do just that. But if cost and simplicity is a factor, then use of cheaper fasteners like drywall screws is a workable answer, particularly if you happen to have some left over drywall screws lying around.
While the possible use of these trusses was mentioned in construction of a tiny house, I'd advise against doing that. Residential construction of any type of dwelling, tiny or gigantic, needs to be done to meet the building codes. Some tiny house construction may be possible without meeting codes but it's not a good idea. No one wants the roof collapsing on you in a windstorm or when a branch falls because you used inferior construction materials or techniques. A shed collapsing on your lawn mower isn't a big deal. A tiny house roof falling on your infant in its crib is!
This is a very well done video showing good construction practices, although I agree that a greater focus on safety would have been appropriate. Take the video for what it is....a demonstration of a methodology for simple roof truss construction....and use it for your benefit rather than degrading every possible issue that you can spot.
Good work, Jon. Thanks for your time in making this video. It truly will help many people.
Second time I've seen a video using this style of truss. It looks a bit like a castrated King Post truss. In the NE, I would add that vertical element back for snow load, or as you mentioned decent sized limb strike. Also, I might be wrong, however all the trusses I see have the bottom chord resting on the rim for support. In John's example, the bottom chord is simple held on by some screws. Again, fine for a small lawn mower shed, but I wouldn't even build my small 14x18 workshop with that kind of truss.
Really nice presentation. I would caution your viewers not to use (deck) screws for anything structural other than a small shed or dog house. They have poor sheer strength. Drive a (deck) screw half way into a block, hit it from the side with a hammer it with snap right off. Do the same with a nail and you’ll just bend it some. Screws are for production, not structure. Also that cleat is very wrong. The entire weight of the roof would be a side load on a high carbon screw. A high wind storm or snow load could easily collapse a roof built like that. That being said, your delivery of information was top notch. Nice job on the video and thanks for sharing.
I agree that deck/drywall/general construction screws would not be proper to resist a shear load but I am curious to how the adhesive effects the resistance to that load (liquid nails would be about as much as chewing gum). Do you think with a better adhesive (would tight bond 2 be proper here?) that his method would be ok? Did he say what kind of screw was being used, don't modern structural screws have nail like shear resistance with added pull out resistance and clamping of a screw?
Wouldn't the cleat only be experiencing a percentage of the weight? The rafter would be caring a great deal almost directly into the wall below with the cleat wedged between. The percentage felt at the peak and/or the cleat screws would need to be enough to shear it. If brackets were added it would also lessen that percentage.
Please don't take my response as criticism to you or your post, just thinking out-loud while testing a thrown to flange and floor connection.
Biggest thing to take from this video would be his jig method and organization.
I will be building my girlfriends countryhouse this year, can i use a tek screw for wood to for building the roof?
What would you use for cleat? Thanks
Also the rafter tie needs to be a 1/3 of the up from the top plate. When only half way, the rafters will bend and push out the walls. Probably not a big deal with a tiny house, but still relevant
Nicely done! The jig (and all the other little aids you've shown) really work to reduce to variability (and problems) one can encounter later in the building process.
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Love the consistency of jig built trusses and the use of liquid nails for increased strength but drywall screws are not structural.
Some plywood screws are black. These may not be drywall screws. What bothers be about the video is that he's not wearing any sort of eye or ear protection and doesn't even mention it.
I was thinking the same thing with the drywall screws. If they are drywall screws those heads will easily snap off.
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I really like the method you used to replicate the trusses. Never thought of making a jig on the floor.
Love that bird's mouth cleat idea. Great educational video. Thanks for putting it up.
This is exactly what I needed to see. On the shed I am buildinggI want to have the cross brace raised above wall height for storage reasons, thanks for the video!
Great truss design! I feel they would be pretty easy to build and plenty strong. I like that you can get the extra storage space and have an overhang, and without a plywood plate at the birds mouth you can use normal 1.5" truss ties if you choose.
First thought that come to mind is that space between the plywood and 2x4 trusses if thats a outside shed some critter is going to make a nest in that why not put a second 2x4 in to close the opening heck a 2x3 or a 2x2 would be good enough
Or rip the 2x4 cross brace lenght wise and trim it to fit for the upper section of the box beam Your creating
I tend to over engineer things when I building from My own ideas
And I under stand this vid is for the aveage homeowner who may have built anything this big before
The screw on birdsmouth is pure Genuis
Great idea!
Thanks Dog !
That is cooler than an Eskimos hut! Great job, teach.
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Best safety reminder I've ever had was my first cabinet shop out of High School, old guy I worked with had first digit missing from bird finger , all I had to do was check him out.
Great work flow. Best rafters video I've seen and like the cleats idea instead of a bird's mouth
Thank you for sharing this video John. I learned something new today. I might use cletes on my next building project.
What a simple but effective video. Too many videos fly through it far too quickly whilst going ballistic with a nail gun. I also really like the idea of building a jig to hold everything in place. Top notch!
Before screwing on the plywood triangle I would clamp it. And I would use Rigid drill. But the whole approach is a master-class. Bravo.
great for beginners. you're a natural teacher. make some more videos please.
Do you build your shed alone? Anyway, sharing your knowledge on how to build roof truss systems for sheds are very interesting. Through this video, I can be able to build any storage shed by simply watching this. I will humbly endorse this post to all my friends.
Really nice job on the video. I am about to build a shed and this was inspiring. A real "can-do" video.
I love how you made these.
Great Tutorial Video! i'm planning on building a small shed and I've been reluctant because of the roof but your video just made it look doable and it was very informative. Now I feel like I can start my project and have a good outcome. Thanks Jon!
Where is the next video please I would love to see this shed form start to finish
great job and I like the idea of the braces that connect to the frame, I'll be using that idea for my shed.
Nice presentation, simple and to the point. Great work.
I like all of it except the way you attached the cleat for the truss to sit on the wall. I would probably have sandwiched it with the plywood as well just to make it a stronger joint.
Awesome job , that roof will last a long time .
Awesome ideas and great job. Great usage of your scrap cut offs.
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Ummm just thought I'd throw in the mix that at 5:12 when Jon is attaching the cleat to create the false birds mouth to sit on the wall top plate the screw box clearly is marked deckfast NOT drywall fast….just saying
Brilliant I am still amazed by your skill. Thanks for Sharing!!
Thanks Cheryl
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I want to know more about using cleats. Thank you for sharing this video.
Nice and solid construction , the glue combined with the plywood probably makes the truss way more stronger then engineered ones. I think a pneumatic nailer would definitely speed the process up.
I would be critical if it were not for the idea that I like your style
Great video, great job, especially the jig.
Thank you Jon, very smart made. Regards from Kirgisia.
im looking to build a small cabin with a friend. Would benefit tremendously from vids on how to do the wallls, install the roof on the trusses. Basically a series on how to build a cabin/shed start to finish.
This man's roof ain't never comin down. He's gonna have it defying gravity
Excellent! Brilliant explanation and demonstration.
Thanks
How funny............my brothers and I built a shed a few years back and built our trusses the exact same way. set up a big jig etc. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, you gave the exact information i needed, in a concise, friendly, and knowledgeable manner.
Nice job Bud, keep up the good work!
Perfect for a 8' X 12' Movable shed! Great Idea...Thanks!
Good vid. Trusses are one of the few things I haven't made. Now I'd be quite happy trying my hand at it. Btw love the location where this was filmed. Nice & peaceful woodland :)
Great vid bud, thanks for posting. Great editing on the vid, straight forward and easy teaching....
I don't know about that missing guard on your saw....
Great video! That jig makes it worth watching.
"Cross piece" = collar beam! Great instructional video albeit overkill and you can buy trusses cheaper than build them that way.
Jack Riley where’s a good place to buy small trusses like that?
Great work. Love the jig set up.
The other point the 2x4's are plenty sufficient . Jon is only knocking up a shed big enough for the ride on mower and a few garden tools. He is not building your 5 bedroom house with 6 bathrooms with under cover parking for 4x4 trucks and some dirt bikes. Horses for courses. bigger the structure bigger the timbers. Love your work Jon Peters
Awesome. You're like me... no safety glasses with the chop saw.
...the amount of weight the cleat will hold is only as good as the shear strength of those screws your using to attach the cleats...that's not alot!
+DeeInTheHouse the plates should also be glued and nailed, and the 1 5/8 drywall screws should never be used you break them off hanging drywall.
+Patrick Fagan Thanks I was aware of that, just wanted to point out that those screws are useless and should not be used, rather, as you mentioned, glue and proper nails.
+DeeInTheHouse You would have to nail with the appropriate angle, else the nails will pull right out of that design. Structural wood screws would be a more appropriate choice (not just long deck screws). They are designed to have the same sheer strength as nails, but won't pull out like a nail will.
But really, given the nature of adding cleats vs cutting a notch in a wider piece of wood, the addition of glue (as you had mentioned) as well as a gang plate, would be good.
I was immediately thinking the same. Drywall screw = major fail. People need to be careful believing everything they see on the Internet.. Informative videos can also have gross negligence in them when using lack of knowledge. Understand tensile strength and shear strength of all fasteners first.
DeeInTheHouse exactly my point also, they look like fucking DRYWALL SCREWS, they suck, suck, suck. I hate drywall screws
impressive sample to make a perfect home
I was hoping to see how to get the angles. I have made a few sheds and they have came out well. Still searching for a video that explains a little better.
Jon I watch a lot of your vids and I'm subscribed and I wish we would have got to see the conclusion of this build.
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Jon you seem smart and innovative with your ideas... I am amazed you take little concern for protecting your eyes tho!
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Great job, Jon!!
Making a garden shed yourself should be exciting, pleasant and not really frustrating as you think. You can even save a big money.
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I love that you use the deck to make a jig and get the exact dimensions of the roof pitch. How did you determine the pitch angle for the rafters? Did you use a speed square or did you just know the angle and adjusted your chopsaw to it.? Great job and don't worry about any negative comments. That's coming from a carpenter/builder/craftsman with more than 40 years experience. You did just fine...
It looks like he just used a 45 degree angle. Pretty simple solution IMO.
Very informative! I just needed a good idea for the planning of my shed. 10x20, Im working on the angles now.
I agree with using the floor as a platform for building trusses. i kinda disagree with a lot of the rest. And yes. this is from experience. I have built multiple houses and a couple of sheds. Where are my videos? I was kinda busy making stuff.
those will be very very very strong....nice job
Very nice, now I know what to do next time,just make the stopblock
Mate really love your technic I'm planning to build a 3 x 3 metre cubby house so thank you for going to the effort to make and upload your experience
Thanks for down under
I built a shed with these plans from Ryan [ Details Here?> *WoodBlueprints. Com* ] . The instructions were clear and easy to implement. Even a novice can be able to build fast using this plan. I'm happy I bought the plan. It also saved me much cost.
When is part three of the video coming out? very interesting to watch and learn from your videos.
Your only building a small shed. Wow we have the critics here. Maybe they should be posting their own video some where lol. Great job and thanks for the video.
Good Videos. Thanks for taking the time to do them.
I noticed you were using a Shockwave screw tip in your drill. Do you like them? I used them when they first came out. I had a problem with them breaking a lot. So I gave the rest I had left away. I really didn't care for them tbh. One persons trash is another man's treasure.
Overall not bad.
I would use nails or staples of black screws (to brittle of a metal with not sheer strength). Glue does help
I’d also use a 2x6 and have the plywood gusset the same width (less of a spider habitat as sheds can be)
And lastly, that chop saw is terrifying
That was slick. Thank you 👍
Great video. Very informative and helpful.
Nice safety gaurd
Hahaha.... True that.. scary, it just takes one time, one time to just get ya
I've used this method several times, though I have never used screws, I use an air nailer or air stapler. I liked the cleat for the birds mouth.
Can't wait for the rest of the shed!
Some comments, your system is likely fine...it's a shed...
But consider the cross brace...very little if any strength in the truss is added by the plywood beyond the attachment to each end of the 2x4 cross brace. In other words its optimized by a triangular gusset with 6.5 inch legs with your design.
That should be sufficient for that span, but you could test the flex in the system yourself by putting your body weight on an upright truss and compare a few design variations.
If you want a stronger system, lower the placement of the 2x4.
A sheet of plywood will yield over 90 - 7" gussets...that's less cost for the same strength.
Also, nails and glue will be the same strength...the glue joint is stronger than the wood. Even staples are ok. The joint strength would be the same if the pieces were just clamped together until the glue dried, or if the screws were removed after the glue was dry.
Not suggesting that, it's just an example but I would be more careful to spread the glue evenly for full bonding strength.
I'd glue and nail the birds mouth block as well.
This the best EASY way and safe, great idea !!!!
I liked the video very well thought out, really good job of instruction...
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and there you are looking fine as hell and clean as a whistle, I would have been covered in sawdust and adhesive, I don't know how you pull it off