Bear Essentials: Sailing Europe after Brexit Schengen Shuffle 90/180 | Right of Innocent Passage
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2022
- Sailing post Brexit in the Schengen zone! In this video we explain how we, as third country British liveaboards on a sailboat, work out our schengen 90/180 visa time and how we understand the right of innocent passage that we used to allow us to pass through the Schengen territories with no visa time remaining.
Bear Essentials is an occasional mini series with explainers, technical inputs, how to’s, and anything of interest that doesn't fit in the regular episodes.
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That has to be the best and simplest explanation of the Shengen rolling 90 in 180. Thank you.
Thank you, I’m glad you liked my pegs! 😎
Great explanation, I was looking at a simple way of looking at how this works and you did a great job at that :) (followed you from a recent Facebook post I wrote about motor vs sail and you responded). Keep up the great videos!
Hi Gav, yes I remember the post 😊 Glad you found this useful and welcome aboard. Hope you enjoy our travels. There’s up as well as downs as we’re still finding our way but it’s an adventure for sure. We’re on our way back to the U.K. for 2024 so maybe see you at anchor somewhere one day 😊⛵️⚓️
Well explained. thanks
Cheers Doug 😊
Crikey, I actually understood that! Good job 👍
Not bad considering I barely understand it myself! 😂😂😬
What a great video sharing helpful stuff. Keep up the videos and good luck growing your channel.
Michael, thank you. It’s good to know it’s appreciated…makes it worthwhile… cheers 😊😊
We learned a lot from this episode. We will run into the same 90 in 180 day rule next year. Currently planning.
I agree, it was very well explained.
Thank you…it’s good to get feedback. Glad it came across reasonably 😊
Another great guide Iain, keep the Bear Essentials coming.
Thank you….yes there will be more from time to time 😊⛵️
Thanks should have looked on this post first Very clearly explained
I miss my citizenship. I also miss being a member of a country that wasn't on some kind of backwards facing, self destructive, drunken rampage.
Fully agree. It's not good to watch.
Not sure where you're living but that's not an accurate description of the UK that I see on my travels.
@@iainmacdonald1170 You should pay more attention then, shouldn't you. Backwards facing, self destructive, drunken rampage seems like an entirely accurate description of the country to me especially after watching our "government" rip its self apart. Backwards facing, leaving the EU is taking us back to the 70s whilst the rest of the world keeps moving forward, the strikes, people working full time have to choose between heating an eating, threatening to break international law and trigger a trade war seems pretty backwards to me. Self destructive there's a border between Northern Ireland (which is now the most productive part of the UK) and the rest of the UK, Scotland is going for another independence vote with more support than ever, cant get much more self destructive than literally removing parts of the UK from the UK. Drunken rampage, our Leaders had ILLEGAL party's through covid, suit cases of wine, broken swings, let the bodies pile high, 25,000 unnecessary deaths in care homes...broken swings not enough of a drunken rampage for you? How about Boris getting drunk with known KGB agents the day after the KGB launched a chemical weapon attack on British soil killing British citizens and seriously injuring a British police officer?
I stand by my original statement.
@@dogfood61188 I fully agree with your statement. Fortunately, my wife and I have sold up entirely in the UK and have Italian residence. @Iain Macdonald, I am able to move on from Brexit now but it seems the UK won't be able to move forward until the self-destructive, drunken rampage faction has sobered up. 😆🤣
@@ashbriant Brexit is why i got a boat. Food and fuel shortages, the increased prices, staff shortages in NHS, hospitality, care, businesses closing, border delays, additional import costs, all predicted as a result of Brexit, it was called project fear, now its here after Brexit and they tell us its not Brexit. My boat is rigged for off grid, i have been preparing for project fear turning in to project reality so i can easily weather this storm, its still sad to see our whole society collapsing in on its self. If the tide dosnt turn soon, the Rwanda refugee scheme, tearing up the human rights act, lowering our food standards, the abandonment of British citizens in need, then i will sail off to retake my citizenship. Been fighting this for 7 years, in 7 years i could be a German.
Brexit just f**king sucks. Sorry to hear about all these problems.
It’s a challenge for sure!
@@FollowIntrepidBear Of course there are challenges but I get annoyed by those who lazily blame all of them on the UK. If the EU treated the British the same as the UK treats EU citizens then you'd have 6 months in which to stay.
@@iainmacdonald1170 - Dude. The stupid UK left the EU. That's why the British get treated differently. And I don't want 6 months. I want all the time. There is no way I will ever live in that stupid little country again.
Hi Guys clear as mud :) as for getting ripped off have a look at sailing fair isle when they were in them waters, fair winds
Hi :-) yes I have seen Fair Isles video and that was not cool but I have heard online anecdotes of people being fined twice by Albania once for entering the waters without clearance and once for leaving again without clearance as they passed through. Not entirely sure under what mechanism the Albanians did that... did an Albanian patrol boat intercept them in Greek waters?! You never quite know what to believe online however I am certainly not saying that it doesn't happen... simply sharing our research as we get asked about our "no schengen time" passage across the Med (yet to fully air on youtube but details on insta etc) a lot. Cheers for the comment... :-)
@@FollowIntrepidBear well I'm not long off from experiencing the shengan shuffle ourselves will probably end up over wintering in northen Ireland:)
@@svhappymondays sounds chilly! We’re aiming for south Cyprus this year 😎 The schengen shuffle is a pain but it is what it is now. Good luck and safe travels 😎⛵️☀️
Hello Iain,
I understood it that many had assumed Gibraltar would be a zone that post Brexit Brits could use as a non-Schengen area but in reality that's not the case, I.e. staying in Gibraltar counts as Schengen time, which is pretty useless as it's a British territory. Is this correct? Many long term yachties have spent time in Turkey as it's outside Schengen and the authorities seem very generous in allowing yachtsman temporary residency for extended periods. Useful if you want to hop back into Schengen after a winter in the eastern med.
Hi Phillip, at this time Gibraltar definitely is not in the schengen zone. We were there for most of March and our passports were not stamped. Brit friends who had schengen time on their clock crossed into Spain a few times and their passports were stamped at the border. There are ongoing negotiations around Gib regarding schengen and it may or may not become part of the zone but at this time it is definitely not despite what is said on many forums. Having seen how British it is there I find it hard to believe Brits won’t have some kind of exemption if it does become schengen however only time will tell on that I guess. It’s a fascinating place if you get a chance to go there. 😊⛵️
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OK thanks Iain.
Also check out this update about the shuffle. There seems to be another way of getting around the rules. ruclips.net/video/neLaNXsht6I/видео.htmlsi=0IX5O-ONQRJP38oF Being crew on your own boat seems to work as long as you don’t stay a night on land, live on your boat and use the right agent to help you complete the right forms for each country…
Thanks Rob, yes we've seen that and its definitely something we'd consider if returning to the Med but agents are not cheap so it's all a balance and I do also believe its a bit of a legal grey area with the law intended for commercial seafarers being extended to leisure sailors. I'm not averse to using it if it works though and definitely something we might look into in the future but for now we're heading back to the UK where it won't be an issue... it just won't be as warm!! Cheers :-)
Good description.
We were thinking of IoM visit from Ireland this summer but post Brexit regulations we might give it a pass just stay in Irish waters
It has changed everything for Brit cruisers and those crossing the borders but at least if you have an Irish passport you’ll be all good in the Schengen countries 😊😉🇮🇪
Why? You can stay up to 6 months in UK waters.
Very interesting. Brexit really did sailors a disservice. Please don't pronounce the G in Schengen. 😊 It hurts.
Surely without the G it’s just Shenen?! 🤷🏻♂️Anyway however it’s pronounced it is, as you say, a nightmare for cruising sailors 😬😬
@@FollowIntrepidBear 😊the "ng " is pronounced like the English "ing", like in "sailing"
Sheningen? I’ve never heard anyone say it like that but I’m guessing you’re from that part of the world? So I’m happy to be corrected😊
@@FollowIntrepidBear The pronunciation of the "ng" is much the same as in the English "long". Schengen is a town in Luxemburg and the name is Luxembourgish. There is much (incorrect) debate about the pronunciation of the name on the internet, but the correct pronunciation can be found on this Wiki Entry: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area
Very interesting, if you’re into it, but for me … sorry, yawn 🥱. Looking forward to Greece. If you are confronted by a man with a gun, the answer is usually “Yes, sir. Anything you say, sir.” Saves on jail time in my experience.
I did say it wasn't exciting Bill! It is something that a lot of people have been asking us about though so we did a little chat. Proper new Episode on Friday 🙂