5 Most Powerful Moments In SHOGUN
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- I review, breakdown and explain Shogun on FX. I discuss the 5 most powerful moments in the TV series and react to the ending with Toranaga, Nagakado's death, Yabushige's death, Mariko's death and many other moments. I compare the show to the 80s mini series and the real events with Ieyasu Tokugawa and William Adams.
00:00 Intro
00:34 Number 5: Nagakado's Death
01:58 Number 4: Nagakado VS Jozen
03:41 Number 3: Yabushige's Death
05:33 Number 2: Hiromatsu's Seppuku
07:28 Number 1: Mariko's Death
09:56 Conclusion
10:21 Outro
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There were so many powerful moments to choose from in this show but these are the 5 that I think are up there! Let me know your most powerful moments in the comments below!
Buntaro’s Tea Ceremony deserved to be on this list. Mariko’s words cut extremely deep.
With all the comments mourning the end of the series, I don't know what to make of the more recent season 2 and possible season 3 announcements. As well as Kondo and Marks did with this series, that huge gap between successfully adapting a highly regarded book and creating new material is daunting. They left themselves an out claiming they wouldn't proceed if they didn't feel certain about the quality but I think there's too much money and publicity now to stop.
Hiromatsu's death was the most powerful for me. That episode deserves Emmy awards for everything.
Yeah it was amazing!
Bruh.... I was thinking the same exact thing. The dialog, emotion and acting was all that.
I was so heart broken. 😢
@@l.y.9345w x
Toranaga was distraught not because of Nagakado's death, but because he knew Hiromatsu had to die.
"Why tell a dead man the future?"
When Yabu realized he was way out of his lords league 😂
Yet before hand he was telling him the future. That scene was dumb.
@@OnlyUknow2 LOL, you missed the whole point of the line. That is the exact same thing Yabu told Omi in the first episode about informing Toranaga about the arrival of the ship. This was answering Yabu's question to Toranaga. Toranaga's hidden third heart was to become Shogun. It was always his secret inner plan. Toranaga's plans and intentions were so extensive that he had spies everywhere, and he knew from the very beginning that Yabu was going to betray him. By telling him this line, he was letting Yabu know that he was playing a high stakes strategic game from the very beginning. He could mask this under the cloak of peace/uniting Japan, but ultimately it was about becoming Shogun.
@@KINGSUNA exactly! Showing how in control Toronaga was even when he appeared weak. Such a slick snub from the lord 🔥
Because dead men tell no tales.
My number 1 moment was Yabushige's death scene, where Toranaga reveals his plot to him and tells him, "of all people you ought to know".
#2 Mariko before the council in Osaka, where she proclaims her identity as the daughter of Akeshi, that took a lot of guts and stole the wind out of Ishido's plan.
#3 Blackthorn's boat race out of Osaka against the Spanish Black ship, which completely changed Toranaga's view of the English pilot.
#4 Fuji's drawing the pistols at Omi and telling him to be on his way...wow!
#5 Buntaro's dinner at Blackthorn's home...then tension is just through the roof.
I work as an interpreter, so one of my favorite things in Shogun is Mariko's translations, especially when she had to tone down or rephrase what is being said. I have been in a couple testosterone driven business negotiations, and I can tell you it's tough to keep your cool, ease the mood and help both parties come to an agreement.
By the way, I have enjoyed your videos on the series very much.
I like how she would omit certain things John was saying abt the Catholics, as she herself found his claims dubious
@@UnimportantAcc I loved that too. An interpreter should be an efficient conduit, not a party, but Mariko couldn't care any less and stood her ground by simply not relaying what she disagreed with.
I totally agree with your assessments as what an interpreter must do as conduit
since I was one myself for over 25 years in SF. English can be very direct and
forceful it seems at times. It's totally up to the skill of interpreter what not to
translate. That is the difference between translation and interpretation.
that is some interesting insight! those negotiations sound like real life dramas 👍
I already got Shogun withdrawls bigtime. Thank you so much for this video. Well done!!
First Tuesday without a new one!
Yeah... Insane feeling when I finished the last episode. I felt genuine sadness throughout the whole episode. The thematics of the series really made me rethink about my life In the past years. It actually changed my perspective on many things. What an amazing show.
@@SumtingWong343 truly amazing. Best of luck!
The canon taking out Jozen and Nagakado’s death are 2 parts that immediately come to my mind when I think about the show. But, IMO every episode was good with top notch acting, sets and storytelling. Chef’s kiss to this series and it’s actors…
it's also important to note that as Toranaga is about to swing his sword for yabushige, he gives him a little smile sort of answering his question of "was this all part of the plan" which is pretty a pretty macabre realisation to have as you're about to be beheaded
I woke up this morning half expecting a new episode to watch. I knew this wasn't happening but its safe to say there is still a sense of loss.
Another layer is Buntaro losing his wife and his father in the same episode. I’m surprised he didn’t go crazy. Fun fact his real life historical figure warlord Hosokawa Tadaoki is one of the longest living characters.
I’ve also noticed many promos of the 3main characters Mariko, Blackthorn & Toranaga, but quite honestly there are so many of the supporting cast that should b promoting it, the characters are so well written.
I couldnt believe,what Mariko said to Buntaro that is what really shocked me.I too, was surprised 😮 that Buntaro didn't go crazy,but then why fight it as Blackthorn was in love with Mariko and Mariko with Blackthorn.
I think blackthornes holding back the tears and breaking down is #1 for me. It’s something we’ve all done and I recently have had to do while at multiple times at work after losing my grandfather to cancer.
Sorry for your loss, shogun definitely portrays grief and loss so accurately so I’m glad it was able to resonate for you during this time.
The boat leaving the shore, the view in front of you is nothing but an uncertain future. And no one to help you through. The feeling of loneliness hits him hard.
Sorry for your loss man.
i love the series, and understand when it drifts away from book and 1980 adaptation, but my favorite scene was Mariko's farewell/confession to Father Alvito. It showed her in a vulnerable aspect that Anna seldom displayed in the series and that made her so different from the book's Mariko. It also stressed the closeness between the priest and her.
Fuji sama holding on to her son was so heartbreaking. I think it was intentional to show an awake and healthy baby in the scene rather than a sleeping one.
I’ve lived in North America for almost 30 years but I’ve never imagined that I can watch a Sengoku drama made by Hollywood! I could feel how hard Sanada san worked on this project, and I was so impressed by all Japanese actors (didn’t know anyone except Sanada san). Hiromatsu scene was my best and the most painful moment that I cried in early morning 😢. The both actors knew this scene was crucial and they nailed it.
I love this show. I’ve never said that about any tv show with subtitles.
John realizing that he sentenced a man to death with saying whoever touches the pheasant dies is an underrated moment
Mariko's death - I am not crying, you are!
"No translator..."
💔
Kiku "Presence is felt most keenly in absence"
What an incredible show, I miss it already. I have really enjoyed your content on it, great stuff!
Mariko's "I am no peasant to be trodden on" scene up there for me!
I would have added the 'live for me' scene but yes, I. think your selection was on the mark.
Episode #9 had several peak moments from Mariko:
- Mariko reclaiming her name and defiance in court
- Mariko’s attempted departure and fight
- Mariko’s attempted seppuku
- Mariko accepting her fate and martyrdom
A subtle moment I really liked was when Blackthorne was drawing out the map of the world to Toranaga
Blackthorn stepping up to second Marikos seppuku was a very powerful moment for me. Decapitation for love seems like such a contradiction, but it was a perfect gesture.
All moments you mentioned are indeed crazy important and filled with many emotions....!!! For me personally Jozen's and his men's death was the best moment so brutal and instant !!!
Fuji weilding John's pistol was one of my favorite moments
Yeah that was a cool scene. It marked a real turning point for Blackthorne and Fuji
For me, the most intense and intimate moment was Fuji and Blackthorne in the boat letting go of their loved ones. That was a powerful in letting go. The two scenes of Naga(knucklehead) dying and killing Ishido's envows was overblown. Just more examples of his rash and stupid behavior that only made things worse for his father. He was told over and over not "to make the first move," and he did that both times.
Yeah that was an amazing scene!
For me, Fuji-Sama exercising her authority as Consort for Anjin-Sama's Pistols and Lady Mariko's exchange with Lord Torragana after Hiromatsu-Sama Seppeku. The moment when she understood what Torragana had in mind, she dropped to her knees, as Hiromatsu's death was HIS DUTY. Very Profound!
More Shogun videos please!
Excellent list.
Thanks!
Top 2 for me are Mariko's death and The scene wit Fuji-sama and Blackthorne on the boat spreading the ashes of her late husband and son in the last episode.
Let your hands be the last to hold her - Fuji-sama
Yabushige: “If I have to hear one more time that you did this for the country…”
Toranaga: “I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it. And I was really, I was alive.”
haha Toranaga Walter White
Great Show
That scene with Hiromatsu was painful to watch…i haven’t yelled at a tv show and then sat in silence after a scene in a while..great stuff
It was such a powerful moment!
I like the theory on Omi
He was very intelligent and coerced Toranagas son numerous times who’s death then gave Toranaga the time he needed
I liked the undercurrent of Yabushige where during the whole show he had a deviant obsession with what death feels like.... well he got what he had coming. I felt that the pause before he got his head cut off was especially so that he could really experience what death was like and he got his wish come true! Sick bastard.
I would not say powerful....but I really like the scenes of the Ladies of the Willow World, especially the lady who went to see Toranaga and asked for a plot of land in Edo for her future business.
Yeah that was also a great moment. It showed she could also see through what he was doing!
The most powerful moment was not ending with a big battle
My week feels empty now. The final episode cemented the deep respect I already had for Mr Tadanobu Asano's craft (in a series packed with outstanding performances).
"I sent a Woman to do what an Army Never Could"
i have your 1 and 2 swapped. Mariko's death had more impact on the story. However, I feel Hiromatsu's was farrr more impactful to the audience.
That's fair enough!
Hiromatsu also knew his friend so well that he can be sure that Toranaga was playing a ruse on his son, since Buntaro also loss hope on his Lord any way, as disclosed in the tea ceremony scene with Mariko and to his father during the intense meeting, and that he'd rather commit seppuku to as show of protest. But Hiromatsu made his son to promise to never give up and to live on no matter how grave the challenges are in the future, hence his father committed seppuku for him as a protest to Toranaga instead of him.
There were moments more powerful but Mura stepping out onto the Ajiro rocks for a prayer and the battered Erasmus creaking into view out of the fog was heady stuff. Had a nice "Flying Dutchman" feel to it.
Sad to see it end cause I got so into it!
Nice
I agree. they were Pinnacle to the story and character development . plus the Actor who played Mariko ( Anna Sawai) did a Fantastic Job, emoting her emotions threw so Well you could feel her pain or Joy, I hope she gets a Emmy, she Deserves it!!
Yeah she was so good in this role!
It's Tuesday in the UK... NO SHOGUN 🥲
Please do an episode ranking.
The scene where Blackthorne sheepishly asked the priest if the words he spoke to God when Mariko died were "acceptable" and the priest's immediate desire to console him because they both loved her.
I totally agree with this list, and I would add as an honorable mention Buntaro's sacrifice (which he survived) and Fuji wih her baby
I legit mourned for Mariko. That's a clear sign of a great character and a great show.
Yeah she was such a good character!
Yes, here is it, Tuesday night and no new episode of Shogun. A true abyss. Good choices for the top 5.
It is an abyss isn't it! Thanks!
fuji sama arming herself with gun to protect her anjin sama was badass
Yeah I did like that too. It was a real turning point for them
04:11 this is the 2nd time toranaga beheaded yabushige, 1st time in 47 Ronin. That's why he smiles :)
My favorite scene was when Omi and his men came to get John to see Toranaga, and John wouldn't leave his guns behind. He even drew his guns onto Omi and his men, and they didn't even flinch. Fuji convinced John to leave them with her because she'll protect them with her life, so John agreed. Then after, Omi demanded Fuji to give him the guns, but she drew the guns on them too, and they were scared and startled. I just found it funny that they were more scared of Fuji than they were of John.
I was waiting for war like I waited for winter to come but the war never came and winter did.
The tea ceremony was a powerful scene and should be on the list
That was a great moment to be fair!
Milk this show for all it's worth baby. It's keeping me from rewatching it over and over lol
Good list. I would swap number 4 with Blackthorn thinking he was important in all of this when Toranaga could have done his entire plan without him. Blackthorn was a complete distraction that fooled everyone, including him.
I started watching this drama because it was highly rated, and I'm currently on the 9th episode, but when will it get interesting? The tempo is so bad all I can do is yawn
The most powerful scene is the regret of old Blackthorne, almost bedridden, haunted by nightmares and flashbacks of losing the true love in his life, grasping onto whatever token he has left of her.
That was confirmed by the producers to be a hallucination that he had while he was recovering for, later on, he throws the crucifix into the sea. He will never leave Japan as Toranaga said in the final episode.
Despite most people feel Mariko and Toranaga were great in the movie, the MVP or best actor was Yabushige....his character depicts even in today's corporate world, most people are like him, play two sides to survive
So many deaths for Toronaga
There will definitely be future Shōgun seasons, Disney would not be able to give up that kind of money. And the creators cannot resist doing big budget episodes of the Battle of Sekigahara and siege of Osaka castle. I see 3 more sequel season and at least one prequel season.
I agree with this top 5 although I’d put Hiromatsu’s over Mariko’s.
That's fair enough!
While I agree with some of your choices I think you have overlooked or downplayed some others. For example, the tea ceremony between Mariko and Buntaro revealed the depths of her feelings for wanting to die and the callousness she felt to Buntaro. Similarly, the scene of Fuji and Blackthorne scattering the remains of their beloved ones showed the journey that both characters had undergone. I suppose it is fair to say that for me the show's brilliance was in the subtlety and nuance that it brought to many of the scenes rather than the action scenes that so many commentators seem to have wanted.
A brilliant example of that subtlety and nuance was Hiromatsu's seppuku and Toranaga's reaction. I don't think it was anger but the devastation at losing his closest ally and realising that he couldn't stop it if he was to succeed with his plan. Mariko's death to me wasn't unexpected even given what seemed like a reprieve. Her death wasn't a given; if she lived she would have left Osaka the next morning and the hostages would have followed and Ishido would have been weakened. The best of limited options for Ishido was to prevent her leaving without killing her but it still would have shown the vacuousness of his claim that they were not hostages and that would have weakened him. He was on a hiding to nothing either way.
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Not Marikos death for me….Mariko confronting Ishido…that scene was fire only second to the tea house scene.
They were two very good moments as well!
Yabushige: Wait until I tell the gods about this! Damn you Scorpion
Toranaga: See you later Raiden
First place was merico trying to leave osaka
I honestly thought nagakados killed himself to buy his Father Time
There are at least 10 Most powerful moments!
There are definitely loads! Every episode had at least one!
敵は本能寺にあり！敵は中南海にあり！敵は白堊館にあり！
敵在本能寺！敵在中南海！敵在白屋子！
The enemy is in Honnō-ji Temple! The enemy is in Zhongnanhai Palace! The enemy is in the White House!
--- The famous quote from Akechi Mitsuhide, i.e., Hosokawa Garasya/Mariko's father
The enemy is the tyrant sitting in the headquarter.
Mariko's death would have been powerful if it was the seppuku
SPOILERS. I think the most powerful moments were the various times that they showed the contrast of the east and west philosophy. "Fate" vs free will. It came up frequently and subtley. I would say, in the end, they biased towards the Japanese "honor" "loyalty" "sacrifice" fatalism POV as they seemed to show everything was worth the outcome. A unified Japan. If there is one thing I would change, it would be Toranaga showing remorse for his choices, but in the end, he beleives it was all fate. An uncertainty would have elevated this theme as central. It would have given an equally powerful nod to the Christian belief in free will. The show challenged the western pov via Anjin's journey. The Japanese character that had the same journey, but in the other direction, was Yabushige and it did not end well for him.
if buntaro stay dead after the riverbank farewell that will be my fav,,unfortunately his not,..hiromatsu death is the best
"No translator"....gulp!
Toranaga = Emperor Palpatine
They know how to see a plan through, no matter what the cost 😂
Lord! If you must kill me give me a good death like being torn apart by cannon or eaten alive by angry fish!
All fine suggestions but I don't trust you.
Fuji and John. That was my #1.
Yeah that was an awesome moment!
The production is outstanding however the soft and emotional soundtracks and dialogues make it depressing and noticebly done in purpose to "catch" peoples affection to the show. SHOGUN was a samurai and there should not be soft music themes but brutal sounds with japanese traditinal instruments.
This series was excellent, and a pale imitation of the book.
Anyone else cheer when Mariko died? The 304 got asploded.
Fantastic mini-series...awful (IMO) ending :(
I think Mariko and her husbands tea scene was powerful. He was crushed but then again he was an abusive asshole.