Great video! I really hope you see this, but I run a hotel with 56 rooms and they all have this same Delta Shower valve. What I do is I have the same channel locks pliers like in the video (I know most customers won't have 2), I put one on the housing and one on the ring. I hold the pliers so the housing does not move when trying to take the ring off. IF it doesn't come off, I spray CLR and WD-40 around the ring and let it sit for 30mins, and then I try to take off the ring again this worked every time, I have done over 50 valves. I hope this makes sense, if anyone has any questions please do not hesitate to ask :)
@@MikeB-ir8cn Hi, sorry for the late reply, when I have a set screw stripped, I first tape up a trash bag around the handle and tape it up on the walls, so the clean up is easier. I have to cut the handle with a grinder and I position it so it cut into the cartridge if that makes sense., it should cut pretty fast. keep in mind this will cut the cartridge so you will have to replace it.
@@clubtc05 yes, that makes sense I've seen other videos with people cut it off with a hacksaw or break it off as well. I am also in maintenance but Apartments instead of hotel. Just temporarily inherited another property with this type of cartridge which is new to me. Really dislike this cartridge type versus the old one with the steel ball and seals. Those were super easy to rebuild and only cost about $5 a pop. These are going to be over 100 with a new cartridge and handle kit Etc. Thanks for the tips
The “STOP” on the video thumbnail caused me to watch this and prevented me from damaging my shower handle. I would totally have tried to rotate the cartridge and/or try to take it out without turning off the water. 10 stars for this video. 🎉
I just replaced one of these yesterday. The ring came off easily. I have noticed that a lot of people complain about new valves leaking. This is because they didn't put plumbers grease on the o-rings. The person who replaced the cartridge previously solved his leak by gluing the valve into the housing. Took me three hours to cut and drill it out and clean up the housing. A fun morning.
I am a plumbing contractor of 44 years and I can only say this issue is a problem. Your previous comment by Bruce and his comment about using your channel lock pliers on the "front part of the retaining ring" as far forward possible when loosening the retaining ring is key. That is the ticket to loosening the ring. I also always squirt WD-40 into those threads about 5 minutes before trying to loosen that retaining ring. After screwing up a few of these old crappy Delta valves I learned my lesson. I have not had an issue since doing it this way.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yes I agree these valves are very problematic. I wanted to share what we do that was repeatable but yes I have had times I was able to spray and delicately work the valve to remove the ring. Just hard to explain in a video to people what level of force may damage the valve. Most people with experience know when you’re on the verge of something getting ready to get damaged. Thanks for commenting and take care!
@tomdavis3495 I'm having trouble getting the handle loose with an allen wrench to adjust the temperature, is it possibly stripped and how can I get it off if it is stripped please?
@@txangel69 You can't adjust the temperature inside the wall. On some units you can open and shut the hot and cold supply valves but this doesn't adjust the temperature. The cartridge inside determines how much cold and hot water can pass. If it's too hot, turn the shower handle towards the cold, and vice versa. If your hot water isn't hot enough or is too hot, you can adjust the hot water heater.
I just replaced mine yesterday and I found that using a strap wrench 🔧 to loosen the brass ring worked like a champ. It gives equal pressure on the ring and you'll have less of a chance of bending, or making the ring out of round. I also used CLR to soak things to loosen up the corrosion. I then soaked at the metal parts in CLR and they looked like new when they came out. As I put it back together, I used a small amount of Never Seize inside the brass ring so the next time it needs repaired, it should make someone's life much easier. Good luck with your project.
Thanks for the info, and yes in many cases the ring is able to be removed with soaking and careful effort. Like I’ve shared in other comments. It is difficult to convey to many different people how much pressure is going to cause damage. Also the main reason most service plumbers I know use this method is time and repeatability. When you start to cut it you know precisely how long the process will be . Thanks again for checking out the channel!
As a plumber in California we have horrible hard water 24-35 gpg average. We will hit the brass ring with a little heat from a mapp torch and usually comes off easily. Great demonstration for removing the brass ring👍👍
Holy Cow!!! Thank you so much!! I have two identical bathrooms, this happened to mine 5 yrs ago and I wrecked it completely- I watched this and fixed bathtub # 2 impeccably thanks to you!!! 50 yr old disabled female veteran and I say you did a absolutely fantastic job with this video and knowledge!! Thanks again!!
I've replaced the cups and springs on my Delta shower faucets a half dozen times during the 20+ years that I have lived in my house and I have never had a problem removing the bonnet/dome nut until now. Well, I got it loose, but I also cracked one of those tubes coming out of the valve body that you are warning everyone about. I sure wish I had seen this video sooner.
Single mom with limited imcome here, ive been doing my research for a couple of days on how to replace my Delta cartridge. I'm super nervous for my repair this weekend but I feel armed with a lot of good info.
You can do this! I am a woman and have changed two cartridges in showers. Use your phone and take a pic b4 you get far. Make sure you put a towel down so nothing drops down the drain. I got the ring off using rubber gloves bcuz you get a good grip. Make sure you cut the water off first!! Once the ring is off you can wiggle the cartridge out. I watched RUclips several times and went for it. I will tell you the cheap cartridges may not work or work for only awhile. I bought the $65 dollar one for a Delta shower at Home Depot. Good Luck.
@@ajhenry9943 UPDATE: Unfortunately, no matter how prepared I was for this simple DIY, it did not go well. By all logic, my RP46074 Delta shower valve cartridge should have come out rather easily. I pulled with all my might straight out (a tiny tiny bit of wiggling) and the damn thing broke in HALF. Obviously, this changed the whole dynamic of the project. At this moment, my water is turned off and will be off until this is resolved. Jumping to the end, I had to hire a plumber, on a Saturday, to get the second half out of the pipe. He gets it out finally and I purchased a new one....in fact I purchased several new ones because none of them would pop back into the pipe. It just would not get properly seated no matter what. In conclusion, my whole shower/tub faucet base had to be replaced with new. My lessons: don't mess with water and now I know where my main shut off valve is at the curb because the one at the house is beginning to fail. It was a disaster basically
UPDATE: Unfortunately, no matter how prepared I was for this simple DIY, it did not go well. By all logic, my RP46074 Delta shower valve cartridge should have come out rather easily. I pulled with all my might straight out (a tiny tiny bit of wiggling) and the damn thing broke in HALF. Obviously, this changed the whole dynamic of the project. At that moment, my water is turned off and would be off until this was resolved. Jumping to the end, I had to hire a plumber, on a Saturday, to get the second half out of the pipe. He got it out finally and I purchased a new one....in fact I purchased several new ones because none of them would pop back into the pipe. It just would not get properly seated no matter what. In conclusion, my whole shower/tub faucet base had to be replaced with new. My lessons: don't mess with water and now I know where my main shut off valve is at the curb because the one at the house is beginning to fail. It was a disaster basically
@@kclifton2011 Kudo's for trying but trust me, nothing is as simple as it seems on YT especially when it's in a vice where you can get to everything a lot easier than when it's in the wall. Just today I had the same experience as you on a 46074 and I've been working on houses for 40 years, top half of valve came off, but the base was stuck. I was lucky enough to finally be able to get it back together so the water could be turned back on but my last words to the homeowner was "call a plumber". They make a tool that will remove the cartridge, but it costs between $200-$300!
Just watched your video and was going to start cutting the ring off and then decided to spray it all around with wd40 and waited about two minutes and it came right off with hardy no effort. Thank you for the advice though. 🙏
Yeah Soaking the valves does work sometimes, I just wanted to give people the inside knowledge alot of plumbers use in this scenario. The biggest reason plumbers do it is speed and predictability. Also why i dont advocate to try to unthread the nut in the video is its hard to convey to people how much pressure is too much pressure. Most people that work with the hands and have a good understanding of things could probably try to get the nut off with reasonable pressure and not over do it. I am able to get them off without cutting them frequently but like i said its just hard to convey on video. Thanks for checking out the channel !
As a service plumber, I run across this a lot. I don’t always have to cut the retaining ring off. But if there’s ever any chance of twisting the valve, I will. One tip for when you first try to turn the ring with a wrench, though, is to keep the jaws as far forward as possible so you aren’t squeezing the ring down onto the valve body threads with the pressure of the wrench - keep the wrench off of the threaded part. When this doesn’t work, start cutting.
Also I agree I don’t always have to cut them. When I was putting out the video though it’s hard to relay to someone what is to much force to put on the valve. In my head I could just see telling someone to put lubricant on it first let it set them gently turn the ring, turning into someone put butter on it, waited five minutes then took a pipe wrench to it and yelled in the comment section that it broke.
YOU ARE AMAZING! I couldn’t get that ring off and almost REALLY screwed up. Alls I did was turn the main water line off to get the pressure to back off and it came off with minimal ease! Thank you so much 😊
This worked great!! I almost started to bend the pipe when I stopped and followed this method. Only took about 3 minutes of cutting with a hack saw and no damage to the threads and especially the pipes behind the wall. Thank you!
Your video just saved me a lot of money and time. Had a leak for a few weeks now and decided to try to tackle it after being told to call a plumber by everyone. I like doing things on my own if I can. Watched your video and in about an hours time had it apart and back together. That includes the trip to Lowes to get the parts. Thanks
So glad the video helped! My goal of starting the channel was to help people as much as possible and have fun making videos in the process. Thanks so much for the comment and checking out the channel!
I'm having this problem now and I've been looking all over the internet for an option that doesn't involve calling a plumber for something so simple. Thanks guys!
@@homebuilt8694 the hack saw did the trick for sure, thanks for that! Ultimately I ended up changing the entire valve system, it was the old Delta push button diverter. Not even Delta carries it anymore and couldn't offer a direct replacement in the color that I needed for my reno.
I came across your video in the nick of time. My shower faucet was over 30 years old. It’s a Delta 600 series, and uses a ball & seat mechanism instead a cartridge. I needed to replace the seats and springs, which I expected to be a simple repair. However, the cap would not budge. I tried applying light heat and tapping it with a hammer, but no luck. I was about to torque it open using a pair of channel locks when I decided to do some further research. I was able to successfully remove the cap by using your method with a mini hacksaw. What a lifesaver! The only trouble is, they don’t sell the cap individually at the big box stores. Instead you have to purchase an entire trim kit ($75). Anyhow, it was much less expensive than calling a plumber, and helped to avoid what could have been a very costly repair. ONE ENORMOUS THANK YOU!
Awesome! glad you I were able to get the project repaired. What you did is exactly what I do most of the time. If someone is wanting the trims replaced I will buy the entire assembly, use what I need. If I have to rob the ring I just swing by the plumbing store and pick up a couple spare rings and I have extra rough in valves for down the road. Thanks for checking out the channel and taking time to share!
Just this morning!! Go Figure I find this today! My faucet is 22yrs old - never been disassembled since it was installed when the house was built. Mine didn't budge with a strap wrench or with a pipe wrench. I saw the body of the faucet start to move and I stopped. Lucky! No damage! Was about to call in a plumber. But I sprayed the ring good with some JB Blaster last night. This morning it came right apart with very little effort! That $5 can of penetrating oil saved a few hundred in plumber fees! You should give this a try before risking cutting too deep with a hacksaw.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! I agree there are many times the ring can be worked off with soaking and mindful working. like I’ve said in other comments. It is hard to make a video about it and give people advice to twist on the valve to loosen the ring when there are so many ways that can be interpreted. Not everyone can be delicate and know when the force is to much and they cause damage. Also the reason myself as well as plumbers opt for cutting is speed and repeatability of repair. It’s hard to be soaking and waiting around trying to delicately remove when someone is paying by the hour. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share. Hope this helps explain why I made the video the way I did. Thanks and take care
great tip, this worked real well for me just now and probably saved me destroying the whole valve body assembly in the process. i used a super fine blade and went slow but i still ended up just cutting into the outside circumference of the threads. no big deal, those threads are only used to snug the mixing valve assembly into the valve body. i paid the extra $10 to get the whole kit including trim pieces and it was worth it, gave everything a brand new look and feel. definitely recommend taking your old mixing valve to a real plumbing supply house, they recognized some peculiarity of my mixing valve and swapped the one from the kit for just the right one, everything worked perfect on the first try. thanks for making this video!
Thanks to your video I didn’t accidentally rip or break anything in the wall. I tried WD-40 (something I saw in another video), and the cartridge did not budge. I grabbed a hacksaw blade I had in my wood shop and carefully worked the brass ring. Once I could almost see the threads I put a flathead in that space and twisted. Thanks for the great video.
I was about to get mid-evil on mine (would have tore it up bad) I stopped and thought I would go to youtube to see what people were doing to remove this valve. Saved me time and money.
Thank you for saving me from a huge "gotcha" with this cartridge replacement. I initially tried PB blaster and took care with holding the valve body in place with channel locks so it wouldn't twist as I tried to gently turn the bonnet nut but that thing felt like it was permanently stuck on. Didn't try much harder, so I got a spare bonnet nut and did it your way. Worked like a charm and nothing was damaged in the process. 👍
Thanks for the video. Explaining that the three tubes to the cartridge are very important because I was about to shear them and thought it can’t be this hard. Instead of continuing with my channel lock I used some CLR spray and a strap wrench to finally get it off. Last resort was going to be the hack saw like you showed later.
This was just what I needed! I’m not a handyman but after watching this video I was able to do this repair on my own. Everything he said could go wrong were issues I ran into and his “simple fix” worked! Instead of a hacksaw I used handheld wire cutters due to limited space. The ring was “soft” which allowed the wire cutters to slowly scrape/cut the ring in two! Thanks again for this excellent explanation! I’m known for causing more damage when I try to repair something … but not this time!
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Thanks this was a lifesaver so I didn’t do damage to the housing! Although I did this on Sunday and Home Depot doesn’t have just the sleeve so it cost me 100 bucks to replace a cartridge and sleeve.
Thank you very much for sharing this video, I couldn't find how to solve my problem, my bathroom ring was stuck, and I couldn't find a video to help me remove it. I managed to do it thanks to his advice, very grateful.
About 3 years ago, I needed to replace washers in a 27 year old tub/shower faucet to stop a dripping faucet. Couldn't get the retaining nut loose...I wrenched it until I realized the whole valve was turning. The OEM valve had soft copper tubing that attached to the house water supply and I kinked the copper tubing and sprung a leak. Had to replace the valve. I went with a Delta Shower Valve. A year and a half later, a drip started and Delta promptly sent me the replacement washers & springs to fix. A few days ago, another leaky drip. Delta again, sent me the free parts. Couldn't get that nut off this time... I cut it off like you showed. Worked well. Only problem, I figured a replacement nut would be easy to get...Wrong... Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, don't carry. I'll have to call Delta or visit a plumbing supply shop... Great video, though! I should have had the part before I cut it off...
I've used this same technique on the older style Delta valves with the chrome dome bonnet. I always apply grease on the threads for the next guy that has to do it, which might be me. This trick also works on Mixet shower valves.
About 4:00 in I saw your JDRF wristband. As a T1 Diabetic I appreciate the gesture to wear this in your video, whether you meant to or not. Thank you! Still watching the video, but it seems well-put-together and clear so far 🙂
I appreciate you taking the time to comment and glad you liked the video. My daughter is T1D and celiac. She was diagnosed at 5, she is almost 10 now. We definitely understand the struggles you have to deal with everyday. Thank you for taking the time to share. Hope to hear from you on future videos. God Bless!
@@homebuilt8694 I was dx'd at 11, now 37. It's definitely a challenge, and there are the occasional sick days. If she isn't using one already, I recommend a continuous glucose monitor. My favorite for accuracy and ease of use is Dexcom G6. I'm not convinced on the G7 they released earlier this year but G6 is pretty great. However, if she sticks to her treatment plan and gets decent at carb counting, she should do OK. On TT there is a creator she may like, the name is "abbey.n.darby" (Darby is her Diabetic support dog). Thanks again for a great advice video. I will subscribe and check in on other content!
Saved over $1,000, BIG THANK YOU! 2 plumbers said the Epic Shower valve ( discontinued by Delta) could not br repaired because no parts were available. But a cartridge for an older Delta faucet fit perfectly! Your video, however, was the key to getting the 28 year old cartridge out.
Glad I came across your video. Had the same problem your solution worked like a champ. The valve itself was another challenge. Pretty much had to take it out piece by piece.
Video helped me tremendously thank you! That ring you cut off is exactly what my problem was. Took my time with a cut off tool and switched out the bad part. Works great now.
Had to do that a few years back. Slightly nicked valve body threads but it had no effect. Soaked ring (bonnet) with vinegar solution but it wouldn't budge. Eventually valve was replaced after the water wore thru thin brass tubing that was part of valve that had body spray. Newer valves have screws that can be used to turn off water flow to facilitate cartridge change/cleaning without turning off main shutoff. Elimination of the 3 tubes was a better design it seems. I used anti-seize on bonnet for easier future removal
Thanks so much for you video! The bonnet nut on my unit was stuck solid with calcium deposits (?), and without your advice I almost certainly would have tried forcing the nut off and damaged the inside plumbing. Hacksaw blade took no time! The tricky part for me was determining whether I was seeing treads or not so I know when to stop cutting. BARELY cut into the threads a little, not enough to keep my new bonnet nut from threading on easily. THANKS!
Holy hell. I wish this was the first video we watched instead of the last. Watched your video and cut the ring off. Would’ve caused a lot more damage if we continually tried to force it off. Thank for your help!
Just replaced cartridge today. First, closing the little valves to left and right with a screwdriver kept me from having to shut water off. I used a dremel with a cutting wheel. And a shop vac to suck up the dust right at the cutting point. Carefully watch the cut groove, dont go too deep. Insert big screwdriver and split the brass ring. Was a great job. New ring got some silicone grease on the threads.
Awesome job! Glad the video helped. The Multi choice Delta valves with the side shutoffs are nice! Thanks for sharing and leaving a comment. Take care and God Bless
I would just apply some gentle heat to expand that thin metal ring. The body inside can break and leave half in the recessed area. It can be fun trying to get it out. Do bleed down the water so there is no pressure holding it in. Also, get the right valve. There is on that fits, it is "blue and white." The newer version, 2006+ in the 13/1400 series I believe is dark grey on top. Even though they are both delta and both fit, the two are def. NOT interchangeable.
Ran into this problem today, put my blow torch on it got it good and hot and it came off like butter, a lot easier than cutting and possibly damaging your threads
Great information! Have one (shower) that the ring is stuck real good and was afraid to put too much pressure on it with pliers for fear of damaging the plumbing in the wall. Never thought of cutting the ring. Going to carefully, cut it. Many thanks!
Thank you for this video! I felt I was about to do some damage trying to remove the ring. Before I watched your video, I decided to try spraying wd40 generously around the front and back of the ring and let it sit while I watched you. I was dreading having to cut the ring off because it looked like it would take a while and I was working while everyone was asleep. Luckily, a firm but gentle twist of it the channel lock worked in breaking the connection and I was able to remove it without cutting. I still appreciate the knowledge in case I need it in the future!
Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and leave a comment. You are absolutely right. My main purpose of the video was to get people to stop and look at what was going on before damage was done. Also yes alot of times with patience, soaking, and carefully removing the ring you can get one off. Its just hard to tell people in the video other options for removal but what someone is not going to over torque the valve and create damage. Take Care
I'm a plumber and two things I've seen work is heating it with a torch sometimes work. Also Wd 40 has worked to. Lastly and this is what I do to everyone I install I smear the threads with pipe dope. It acts like anti seize and helps out the next time.
I use a pair of Irwin 12" nut jaw pliers on these. Have also used a strap style oil filter wrench in the past. They tighten onto themselves and allow you to gain grip without damage. In 20 years I have only had to cut maybe 3 of these. Jack of all sprays, wd-40, some sort of penetrating lubricant and the correct tools and you can get these off fairly easily.
Thanks so much for this. This method worked great for me on a very severely corroded bonnet nut that wouldn't budge even with a good dose of WD40. My only problem was I did it on a Sunday, and couldn't find a replacement bonnet nut in stock at any of the big box stores, and all the plumbing supply stores were closed. I ended up cleaning up the threads on the split nut and securing it with a hose clamp after installing the new valve so I could turn the water back on. My advice is make sure you have a replacement bonnet nut ready to go. Otherwise you have to explain to wifey why the water won't be back on until Monday!
This worked well for me. I tried to remove the ring a few years back and it was sealed and it looked like it was going to start bending. Plumber came and there is very little room to work. I was going to have to pull a lot of tile down. I shelved the project for a while because we never used that shower much. Decided to fix it this week and in 5 minutes I had the cartridge out. No need for tile work. Thanks for the video!
thank you. i am driving 700 K tomorrow and will do this job for a friend. yes i inapropriatly apply force. live and learn, but i would rather learn from your mistake than mine.
Great video thank you!!! Help a lot doing a buddies shower valve, I made a slit with dremel then hammer and flat head chisel style to turn the nut thank you
Good adivice I've done it this way for years. I use a sawzall though. i also cut the front side of the bonnet nut almost all the way to the valve body. When I cut the front i cut it at an angle so it cuts the old cartridge too which is fine since its being replaced. My last boss told me I should never have to cut one off and said to call him next time I couldnt get one off. He beat the hell out of it with a wrench and got it to unthread lol. I prefer just to cut it off.
I agree, it is much more predictable and you know exactly how long it is going to take to get it off. I will give it an honest effort first to see if it comes off but I wont go to prying on it or anything else. So many people comment and say I got mine off and didnt have to cut it why dont you tell people to try to get it off first. I have tried to explain that unless you have a good understanding of whats going on I would never advocate to anyone to try to wrench it off not knowing how hard they are going to force the valve. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experiences! Take Care
Never destroyed the locking ring, I used my torch to heat up the ring and loosened it. The cartridge will get a little melted but I'm replacing it anyway. Also I apply a little valve grease to the ring nut threads to make it easier for the future.
Saw the video so took extra caution. Of course the the whole damn valve assembly was only secured by the cap/faceplate when screwed in from the front. I was able to use two pairs of channel locks with one to hold the valve assembly solid and the other to loose. Worked well.
Glad the video helped and yes I have seen some very poor installations of these things. The main propose of the video was to get people to stop and slow down and use caution when working o these valves. Thanks for leaving a comment and take care!
Many thanks for this super helpful video. It worked like a charm. (Years ago I tried the just keep torquing approach and discovered Niagara Falls in our basement, as you described)
I use a small butane torch to heat up and bake off the minerals that are binding the threads. Works every time without torquing or tapping onto the valve body.
😬 I just used a pipe wrench on the ring and a pair of channel locks to hold backup on the housing part. That, plus a ton of WD40 worked for me finally.
I have removed at least three of the rings using a strap wrench ( the kind used for removing the oil filter to a vehicle) I find it applys equal pressure to the ring. The strap wrench will keep you from damaging the old or new ring when working on the shower valve. If unsuccessful then I will resort to cutting the ring.
Sorry to hear of the issue, I have. few other videos up now that discusses some alternatives if it gets broken. Hope you were able to get the issue resolved. Thanks for commenting and checking out the channel!
🤔 l used to be apts main! Put W40 wait about 1- 2 hrs then use 2 channelloks big ones and mid!! The bigs to turn the ring the mid to hold the valve!!😎👍🍺
I was lazy and used a Dremel and ended up cutting into the threads a little so your method is safer. I was careful and the threads are still OK, however, I worried for a second. Good thing I didn't use a body grinder. Thanks for the video.
Great video! I really hope you see this, but I run a hotel with 56 rooms and they all have this same Delta Shower valve. What I do is I have the same channel locks pliers like in the video (I know most customers won't have 2), I put one on the housing and one on the ring. I hold the pliers so the housing does not move when trying to take the ring off. IF it doesn't come off, I spray CLR and WD-40 around the ring and let it sit for 30mins, and then I try to take off the ring again this worked every time, I have done over 50 valves. I hope this makes sense, if anyone has any questions please do not hesitate to ask :)
This way seems much simpler.
@@tinypizzas It is, if you don't want to cut the ring :)
@@clubtc05 any tips on getting the handle off of the Delta 1400? I have to do one tomorrow at work and it seems like the set screw is stripped.
@@MikeB-ir8cn Hi, sorry for the late reply, when I have a set screw stripped, I first tape up a trash bag around the handle and tape it up on the walls, so the clean up is easier. I have to cut the handle with a grinder and I position it so it cut into the cartridge if that makes sense., it should cut pretty fast. keep in mind this will cut the cartridge so you will have to replace it.
@@clubtc05 yes, that makes sense I've seen other videos with people cut it off with a hacksaw or break it off as well. I am also in maintenance but Apartments instead of hotel. Just temporarily inherited another property with this type of cartridge which is new to me. Really dislike this cartridge type versus the old one with the steel ball and seals. Those were super easy to rebuild and only cost about $5 a pop. These are going to be over 100 with a new cartridge and handle kit Etc. Thanks for the tips
The “STOP” on the video thumbnail caused me to watch this and prevented me from damaging my shower handle. I would totally have tried to rotate the cartridge and/or try to take it out without turning off the water. 10 stars for this video. 🎉
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I just replaced one of these yesterday. The ring came off easily. I have noticed that a lot of people complain about new valves leaking. This is because they didn't put plumbers grease on the o-rings. The person who replaced the cartridge previously solved his leak by gluing the valve into the housing. Took me three hours to cut and drill it out and clean up the housing. A fun morning.
Kudos to you, I would have given up and called up plumber $$$
Sounds like a mess, thanks for sharing your experience!
i had a brand new one only last 2 years
I am a plumbing contractor of 44 years and I can only say this issue is a problem. Your previous comment by Bruce and his comment about using your channel lock pliers on the "front part of the retaining ring" as far forward possible when loosening the retaining ring is key. That is the ticket to loosening the ring. I also always squirt WD-40 into those threads about 5 minutes before trying to loosen that retaining ring. After screwing up a few of these old crappy Delta valves I learned my lesson. I have not had an issue since doing it this way.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yes I agree these valves are very problematic. I wanted to share what we do that was repeatable but yes I have had times I was able to spray and delicately work the valve to remove the ring. Just hard to explain in a video to people what level of force may damage the valve. Most people with experience know when you’re on the verge of something getting ready to get damaged. Thanks for commenting and take care!
@tomdavis3495 I'm having trouble getting the handle loose with an allen wrench to adjust the temperature, is it possibly stripped and how can I get it off if it is stripped please?
@@txangel69 You can't adjust the temperature inside the wall. On some units you can open and shut the hot and cold supply valves but this doesn't adjust the temperature. The cartridge inside determines how much cold and hot water can pass. If it's too hot, turn the shower handle towards the cold, and vice versa. If your hot water isn't hot enough or is too hot, you can adjust the hot water heater.
I just replaced mine yesterday and I found that using a strap wrench 🔧 to loosen the brass ring worked like a champ. It gives equal pressure on the ring and you'll have less of a chance of bending, or making the ring out of round. I also used CLR to soak things to loosen up the corrosion. I then soaked at the metal parts in CLR and they looked like new when they came out. As I put it back together, I used a small amount of Never Seize inside the brass ring so the next time it needs repaired, it should make someone's life much easier. Good luck with your project.
Thanks for the info, and yes in many cases the ring is able to be removed with soaking and careful effort. Like I’ve shared in other comments. It is difficult to convey to many different people how much pressure is going to cause damage. Also the main reason most service plumbers I know use this method is time and repeatability. When you start to cut it you know precisely how long the process will be . Thanks again for checking out the channel!
As a plumber in California we have horrible hard water 24-35 gpg average.
We will hit the brass ring with a little heat from a mapp torch and usually comes off easily. Great demonstration for removing the brass ring👍👍
This worked great for me, a few quick blasts was all it needed. Thanks!
Holy Cow!!! Thank you so much!! I have two identical bathrooms, this happened to mine 5 yrs ago and I wrecked it completely- I watched this and fixed bathtub # 2 impeccably thanks to you!!! 50 yr old disabled female veteran and I say you did a absolutely fantastic job with this video and knowledge!! Thanks again!!
Glad the video helped and thank you for your service! Hope to hear from you on future videos! Take care
Thank you for your service and God bless you Ma'am!
@@homebuilt8694 Is it time we stop thanking people for their service, when they in no way protected our freedom or did anything good whatsoever?
@@homebuilt8694 A bus driver does more for the people then a service member, we praise those who do the least lol
@@seane6616 go stand on the front lines MORON
I've replaced the cups and springs on my Delta shower faucets a half dozen times during the 20+ years that I have lived in my house and I have never had a problem removing the bonnet/dome nut until now. Well, I got it loose, but I also cracked one of those tubes coming out of the valve body that you are warning everyone about. I sure wish I had seen this video sooner.
I was minutes away from ripping a valve out of the wall on a service call. I can confirm this video has saved me from overtime and a headache
Single mom with limited imcome here, ive been doing my research for a couple of days on how to replace my Delta cartridge. I'm super nervous for my repair this weekend but I feel armed with a lot of good info.
You can do this! I am a woman and have changed two cartridges in showers. Use your phone and take a pic b4 you get far. Make sure you put a towel down so nothing drops down the drain. I got the ring off using rubber gloves bcuz you get a good grip.
Make sure you cut the water off first!! Once the ring is off you can wiggle the cartridge out. I watched RUclips several times and went for it. I will tell you the cheap cartridges may not work or work for only awhile. I bought the $65 dollar one for a Delta shower at Home Depot. Good Luck.
@@ajhenry9943 UPDATE: Unfortunately, no matter how prepared I was for this simple DIY, it did not go well. By all logic, my RP46074 Delta shower valve cartridge should have come out rather easily. I pulled with all my might straight out (a tiny tiny bit of wiggling) and the damn thing broke in HALF. Obviously, this changed the whole dynamic of the project. At this moment, my water is turned off and will be off until this is resolved. Jumping to the end, I had to hire a plumber, on a Saturday, to get the second half out of the pipe. He gets it out finally and I purchased a new one....in fact I purchased several new ones because none of them would pop back into the pipe. It just would not get properly seated no matter what. In conclusion, my whole shower/tub faucet base had to be replaced with new. My lessons: don't mess with water and now I know where my main shut off valve is at the curb because the one at the house is beginning to fail.
It was a disaster basically
UPDATE: Unfortunately, no matter how prepared I was for this simple DIY, it did not go well. By all logic, my RP46074 Delta shower valve cartridge should have come out rather easily. I pulled with all my might straight out (a tiny tiny bit of wiggling) and the damn thing broke in HALF. Obviously, this changed the whole dynamic of the project. At that moment, my water is turned off and would be off until this was resolved. Jumping to the end, I had to hire a plumber, on a Saturday, to get the second half out of the pipe. He got it out finally and I purchased a new one....in fact I purchased several new ones because none of them would pop back into the pipe. It just would not get properly seated no matter what. In conclusion, my whole shower/tub faucet base had to be replaced with new. My lessons: don't mess with water and now I know where my main shut off valve is at the curb because the one at the house is beginning to fail.
It was a disaster basically
@@kclifton2011 Kudo's for trying but trust me, nothing is as simple as it seems on YT especially when it's in a vice where you can get to everything a lot easier than when it's in the wall. Just today I had the same experience as you on a 46074 and I've been working on houses for 40 years, top half of valve came off, but the base was stuck. I was lucky enough to finally be able to get it back together so the water could be turned back on but my last words to the homeowner was "call a plumber". They make a tool that will remove the cartridge, but it costs between $200-$300!
Just watched your video and was going to start cutting the ring off and then decided to spray it all around with wd40 and waited about two minutes and it came right off with hardy no effort. Thank you for the advice though. 🙏
Yeah Soaking the valves does work sometimes, I just wanted to give people the inside knowledge alot of plumbers use in this scenario. The biggest reason plumbers do it is speed and predictability. Also why i dont advocate to try to unthread the nut in the video is its hard to convey to people how much pressure is too much pressure. Most people that work with the hands and have a good understanding of things could probably try to get the nut off with reasonable pressure and not over do it. I am able to get them off without cutting them frequently but like i said its just hard to convey on video. Thanks for checking out the channel !
Just cut a little groove in the ring and tap it off of the Flathead works every time
Dude, I it worked for me. 😁
As a service plumber, I run across this a lot. I don’t always have to cut the retaining ring off. But if there’s ever any chance of twisting the valve, I will. One tip for when you first try to turn the ring with a wrench, though, is to keep the jaws as far forward as possible so you aren’t squeezing the ring down onto the valve body threads with the pressure of the wrench - keep the wrench off of the threaded part. When this doesn’t work, start cutting.
Thanks for the advice and checking out the channel!
Also I agree I don’t always have to cut them. When I was putting out the video though it’s hard to relay to someone what is to much force to put on the valve. In my head I could just see telling someone to put lubricant on it first let it set them gently turn the ring, turning into someone put butter on it, waited five minutes then took a pipe wrench to it and yelled in the comment section that it broke.
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YOU ARE AMAZING! I couldn’t get that ring off and almost REALLY screwed up. Alls I did was turn the main water line off to get the pressure to back off and it came off with minimal ease! Thank you so much 😊
Glad the video helped that is what Im always hoping for when I make the videos is someone benefits! Thanks for checking out the channel!
I tried everything else. Solvent, two wrench method, heat from a torch. Finally did this and it worked easily. Thanks for the video.
This worked great!! I almost started to bend the pipe when I stopped and followed this method. Only took about 3 minutes of cutting with a hack saw and no damage to the threads and especially the pipes behind the wall. Thank you!
Awesome Glad the video helped . Thanks for taking the time to share your experience. Take care
Your video just saved me a lot of money and time. Had a leak for a few weeks now and decided to try to tackle it after being told to call a plumber by everyone. I like doing things on my own if I can. Watched your video and in about an hours time had it apart and back together. That includes the trip to Lowes to get the parts. Thanks
So glad the video helped! My goal of starting the channel was to help people as much as possible and have fun making videos in the process. Thanks so much for the comment and checking out the channel!
I'm having this problem now and I've been looking all over the internet for an option that doesn't involve calling a plumber for something so simple. Thanks guys!
Hope you are able to make the repair. Thanks for commenting
@@homebuilt8694 the hack saw did the trick for sure, thanks for that! Ultimately I ended up changing the entire valve system, it was the old Delta push button diverter. Not even Delta carries it anymore and couldn't offer a direct replacement in the color that I needed for my reno.
I came across your video in the nick of time. My shower faucet was over 30 years old. It’s a Delta 600 series, and uses a ball & seat mechanism instead a cartridge. I needed to replace the seats and springs, which I expected to be a simple repair. However, the cap would not budge. I tried applying light heat and tapping it with a hammer, but no luck. I was about to torque it open using a pair of channel locks when I decided to do some further research. I was able to successfully remove the cap by using your method with a mini hacksaw. What a lifesaver! The only trouble is, they don’t sell the cap individually at the big box stores. Instead you have to purchase an entire trim kit ($75). Anyhow, it was much less expensive than calling a plumber, and helped to avoid what could have been a very costly repair. ONE ENORMOUS THANK YOU!
Awesome! glad you I were able to get the project repaired. What you did is exactly what I do most of the time. If someone is wanting the trims replaced I will buy the entire assembly, use what I need. If I have to rob the ring I just swing by the plumbing store and pick up a couple spare rings and I have extra rough in valves for down the road. Thanks for checking out the channel and taking time to share!
Just this morning!! Go Figure I find this today!
My faucet is 22yrs old - never been disassembled since it was installed when the house was built. Mine didn't budge with a strap wrench or with a pipe wrench. I saw the body of the faucet start to move and I stopped. Lucky! No damage! Was about to call in a plumber. But I sprayed the ring good with some JB Blaster last night. This morning it came right apart with very little effort! That $5 can of penetrating oil saved a few hundred in plumber fees! You should give this a try before risking cutting too deep with a hacksaw.
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! I agree there are many times the ring can be worked off with soaking and mindful working. like I’ve said in other comments. It is hard to make a video about it and give people advice to twist on the valve to loosen the ring when there are so many ways that can be interpreted. Not everyone can be delicate and know when the force is to much and they cause damage. Also the reason myself as well as plumbers opt for cutting is speed and repeatability of repair. It’s hard to be soaking and waiting around trying to delicately remove when someone is paying by the hour. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share. Hope this helps explain why I made the video the way I did. Thanks and take care
great tip, this worked real well for me just now and probably saved me destroying the whole valve body assembly in the process. i used a super fine blade and went slow but i still ended up just cutting into the outside circumference of the threads. no big deal, those threads are only used to snug the mixing valve assembly into the valve body. i paid the extra $10 to get the whole kit including trim pieces and it was worth it, gave everything a brand new look and feel. definitely recommend taking your old mixing valve to a real plumbing supply house, they recognized some peculiarity of my mixing valve and swapped the one from the kit for just the right one, everything worked perfect on the first try. thanks for making this video!
Thanks for the info and taking the time to share your experience. Take care my friend!
Thanks to your video I didn’t accidentally rip or break anything in the wall. I tried WD-40 (something I saw in another video), and the cartridge did not budge. I grabbed a hacksaw blade I had in my wood shop and carefully worked the brass ring. Once I could almost see the threads I put a flathead in that space and twisted. Thanks for the great video.
I was about to get mid-evil on mine (would have tore it up bad) I stopped and thought I would go to youtube to see what people were doing to remove this valve. Saved me time and money.
Thank you for saving me from a huge "gotcha" with this cartridge replacement. I initially tried PB blaster and took care with holding the valve body in place with channel locks so it wouldn't twist as I tried to gently turn the bonnet nut but that thing felt like it was permanently stuck on. Didn't try much harder, so I got a spare bonnet nut and did it your way. Worked like a charm and nothing was damaged in the process. 👍
You just saved me a whole lot of possible damage and headache. I knew it should have been simple. Thank you!
Thanks for checking out the channel! Glad the video helped!
To late for me, lol... Glad to see this is out there though 🤣
Thanks for this. I didn't cut the ring but instead of wrenching on it, I took my time and it eventually gave.
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Thanks for the video. Explaining that the three tubes to the cartridge are very important because I was about to shear them and thought it can’t be this hard. Instead of continuing with my channel lock I used some CLR spray and a strap wrench to finally get it off. Last resort was going to be the hack saw like you showed later.
Awesome glad I could help! Thanks for the comment
Wish I saw this video last night 🥴😅 bathroom was soo old the valve did not come off, so now onto more repairs 😳. Thank you for the video though 👍🏼
Thanks for sharing your experience and checking out the channel! Hope you were able to get your repairs made!
This was just what I needed! I’m not a handyman but after watching this video I was able to do this repair on my own. Everything he said could go wrong were issues I ran into and his “simple fix” worked! Instead of a hacksaw I used handheld wire cutters due to limited space. The ring was “soft” which allowed the wire cutters to slowly scrape/cut the ring in two! Thanks again for this excellent explanation! I’m known for causing more damage when I try to repair something … but not this time!
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Thanks this was a lifesaver so I didn’t do damage to the housing! Although I did this on Sunday and Home Depot doesn’t have just the sleeve so it cost me 100 bucks to replace a cartridge and sleeve.
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Thank you! Mine was in a tight space, but even a hand saw worked.
Glad the video was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experience. God Bless
Thank you very much for sharing this video, I couldn't find how to solve my problem, my bathroom ring was stuck, and I couldn't find a video to help me remove it.
I managed to do it thanks to his advice, very grateful.
Interesting! Same issue with my valve/cartridge shower! Very helpful!
Awesome glad the video helped!
Thank you for the info! I'm a new home owner and about to take on this project. I appreciate the help.
Glad I could help! Thanks for the comment
About 3 years ago, I needed to replace washers in a 27 year old tub/shower faucet to stop a dripping faucet. Couldn't get the retaining nut loose...I wrenched it until I realized the whole valve was turning. The OEM valve had soft copper tubing that attached to the house water supply and I kinked the copper tubing and sprung a leak. Had to replace the valve.
I went with a Delta Shower Valve. A year and a half later, a drip started and Delta promptly sent me the replacement washers & springs to fix.
A few days ago, another leaky drip. Delta again, sent me the free parts.
Couldn't get that nut off this time...
I cut it off like you showed. Worked well.
Only problem, I figured a replacement nut would be easy to get...Wrong...
Home Depot, Lowes, Ace, don't carry.
I'll have to call Delta or visit a plumbing supply shop...
Great video, though!
I should have had the part before I cut it off...
I like the Pontiac sign behind you .
I have broke these valves in the past and could have probably saved them with your tips. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for checking out the channel!
I am a service plumber and I use a 2” frenco attach to a 24” section of a 2” pvc. Clamp down on the valve nut and turn.. nice and easy work every time
Awesome thanks for the advice and sharing the info! Always good to hear of different ways to go about getting a repair made. Thanks for sharing!
@@homebuilt8694 thats slick bro you make your own tools
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Omg!! THANK YOU!!! Simple & easy fix!!! Helped me feel like I can fix stuff without my husband!
My dude! This video is exactly what I needed. Thank you! You saved me from oh-no I have no shower and it’s a holiday weekend to…ok, done!
I've used this same technique on the older style Delta valves with the chrome dome bonnet.
I always apply grease on the threads for the next guy that has to do it, which might be me.
This trick also works on Mixet shower valves.
About 4:00 in I saw your JDRF wristband. As a T1 Diabetic I appreciate the gesture to wear this in your video, whether you meant to or not. Thank you! Still watching the video, but it seems well-put-together and clear so far 🙂
I appreciate you taking the time to comment and glad you liked the video. My daughter is T1D and celiac. She was diagnosed at 5, she is almost 10 now. We definitely understand the struggles you have to deal with everyday. Thank you for taking the time to share. Hope to hear from you on future videos. God Bless!
@@homebuilt8694 I was dx'd at 11, now 37. It's definitely a challenge, and there are the occasional sick days. If she isn't using one already, I recommend a continuous glucose monitor. My favorite for accuracy and ease of use is Dexcom G6. I'm not convinced on the G7 they released earlier this year but G6 is pretty great. However, if she sticks to her treatment plan and gets decent at carb counting, she should do OK.
On TT there is a creator she may like, the name is "abbey.n.darby" (Darby is her Diabetic support dog).
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glad i found this before i put some muscle behind the channel locks lol worked out perfectly and no more leak! 👌🏾
Thanks so much for leaving a comment and sharing your experience. Glad the video helped and hope to hear from you on future videos. Take care
Saved over $1,000, BIG THANK YOU! 2 plumbers said the Epic Shower valve ( discontinued by Delta) could not br repaired because no parts were available. But a cartridge for an older Delta faucet fit perfectly! Your video, however, was the key to getting the 28 year old cartridge out.
Awesome! Glad to hear that is the point when I make the videos , Thanks for watching and leaving us a comment!
Glad I came across your video. Had the same problem your solution worked like a champ. The valve itself was another challenge. Pretty much had to take it out piece by piece.
Video helped me tremendously thank you! That ring you cut off is exactly what my problem was. Took my time with a cut off tool and switched out the bad part. Works great now.
Awesome! Glad the video helped! Thanks for checking out the channel!
Had to do that a few years back. Slightly nicked valve body threads but it had no effect. Soaked ring (bonnet) with vinegar solution but it wouldn't budge. Eventually valve was replaced after the water wore thru thin brass tubing that was part of valve that had body spray. Newer valves have screws that can be used to turn off water flow to facilitate cartridge change/cleaning without turning off main shutoff. Elimination of the 3 tubes was a better design it seems. I used anti-seize on bonnet for easier future removal
Glad you were able to make your repair, thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks so much for you video! The bonnet nut on my unit was stuck solid with calcium deposits (?), and without your advice I almost certainly would have tried forcing the nut off and damaged the inside plumbing. Hacksaw blade took no time! The tricky part for me was determining whether I was seeing treads or not so I know when to stop cutting. BARELY cut into the threads a little, not enough to keep my new bonnet nut from threading on easily. THANKS!
Holy hell. I wish this was the first video we watched instead of the last. Watched your video and cut the ring off. Would’ve caused a lot more damage if we continually tried to force it off. Thank for your help!
Awesome glad it helped, thanks for checking out the channel and commenting!
Just replaced cartridge today. First, closing the little valves to left and right with a screwdriver kept me from having to shut water off. I used a dremel with a cutting wheel. And a shop vac to suck up the dust right at the cutting point. Carefully watch the cut groove, dont go too deep. Insert big screwdriver and split the brass ring. Was a great job. New ring got some silicone grease on the threads.
Awesome job! Glad the video helped. The Multi choice Delta valves with the side shutoffs are nice! Thanks for sharing and leaving a comment. Take care and God Bless
Thanks for showing your method of cutting off the bonnet ring!
Glad the video helped and thanks for checking out the channel! Hope to see you on future videos! Take care!
I had to use a torch for aprox 45-60 seconds for it to loosen. Thanks for the video, I would have broken mine because the lock ring was so tight .
Glad to hear you were able to get the problem fixed. Thanks for checking out the channel and sharing!
I've got this same issue going on! Great video! Thank you so much!
Hope the video helps you! Thanks for taking time to watch the video and comment!
I would just apply some gentle heat to expand that thin metal ring. The body inside can break and leave half in the recessed area. It can be fun trying to get it out. Do bleed down the water so there is no pressure holding it in. Also, get the right valve. There is on that fits, it is "blue and white." The newer version, 2006+ in the 13/1400 series I believe is dark grey on top. Even though they are both delta and both fit, the two are def. NOT interchangeable.
Thanks for the info and taking time to watch the channel and share!
I have not tackled it yet.. but this video is a tremendous insight and thank you so much for making it and putting it up !
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by far best video about this issue perfect solution
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I think you might have saved me from making a huge mistake. Thank you!
Ran into this problem today, put my blow torch on it got it good and hot and it came off like butter, a lot easier than cutting and possibly damaging your threads
Great information! Have one (shower) that the ring is stuck real good and was afraid to put too much pressure on it with pliers for fear of damaging the plumbing in the wall. Never thought of cutting the ring. Going to carefully, cut it. Many thanks!
Thank you for this video! I felt I was about to do some damage trying to remove the ring. Before I watched your video, I decided to try spraying wd40 generously around the front and back of the ring and let it sit while I watched you. I was dreading having to cut the ring off because it looked like it would take a while and I was working while everyone was asleep. Luckily, a firm but gentle twist of it the channel lock worked in breaking the connection and I was able to remove it without cutting. I still appreciate the knowledge in case I need it in the future!
Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and leave a comment. You are absolutely right. My main purpose of the video was to get people to stop and look at what was going on before damage was done. Also yes alot of times with patience, soaking, and carefully removing the ring you can get one off. Its just hard to tell people in the video other options for removal but what someone is not going to over torque the valve and create damage. Take Care
Well, another video I should have watched yesterday. Thanks!
Thanks for checking out the video. Good luck with the repairs.
He's a hacker. No need to cut through the ring.
I'm a plumber and two things I've seen work is heating it with a torch sometimes work. Also Wd 40 has worked to. Lastly and this is what I do to everyone I install I smear the threads with pipe dope. It acts like anti seize and helps out the next time.
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Good to know and will save me a lot of work or expense!.
I use a pair of Irwin 12" nut jaw pliers on these. Have also used a strap style oil filter wrench in the past. They tighten onto themselves and allow you to gain grip without damage. In 20 years I have only had to cut maybe 3 of these. Jack of all sprays, wd-40, some sort of penetrating lubricant and the correct tools and you can get these off fairly easily.
Have not even got halfway through the video and darn...thanks bro
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Thank you. Great video to see BEFORE attempting this repair.❤
Thanks so much for this. This method worked great for me on a very severely corroded bonnet nut that wouldn't budge even with a good dose of WD40. My only problem was I did it on a Sunday, and couldn't find a replacement bonnet nut in stock at any of the big box stores, and all the plumbing supply stores were closed. I ended up cleaning up the threads on the split nut and securing it with a hose clamp after installing the new valve so I could turn the water back on. My advice is make sure you have a replacement bonnet nut ready to go. Otherwise you have to explain to wifey why the water won't be back on until Monday!
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Thank you so much for your video!
You saved me a lot of money and damaging my plumbing!
Many thanks!🙏
Glad to hear, that’s why I wanted to make the video. Thanks for watching and sharing your experience
This worked well for me. I tried to remove the ring a few years back and it was sealed and it looked like it was going to start bending. Plumber came and there is very little room to work. I was going to have to pull a lot of tile down. I shelved the project for a while because we never used that shower much. Decided to fix it this week and in 5 minutes I had the cartridge out. No need for tile work. Thanks for the video!
Awesome, glad you were able to make the repairs. Thanks for sharing your experience and leaving us a comment!
Very ingenious remedy to a difficult problem.
Thanks glad it helped!
thank you. i am driving 700 K tomorrow and will do this job for a friend. yes i inapropriatly apply force. live and learn, but i would rather learn from your mistake than mine.
Great video thank you!!! Help a lot doing a buddies shower valve, I made a slit with dremel then hammer and flat head chisel style to turn the nut thank you
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Thanks for the video. This has been on my honey-do list for over two years. Eek
Good adivice I've done it this way for years. I use a sawzall though. i also cut the front side of the bonnet nut almost all the way to the valve body. When I cut the front i cut it at an angle so it cuts the old cartridge too which is fine since its being replaced. My last boss told me I should never have to cut one off and said to call him next time I couldnt get one off. He beat the hell out of it with a wrench and got it to unthread lol. I prefer just to cut it off.
I agree, it is much more predictable and you know exactly how long it is going to take to get it off. I will give it an honest effort first to see if it comes off but I wont go to prying on it or anything else. So many people comment and say I got mine off and didnt have to cut it why dont you tell people to try to get it off first. I have tried to explain that unless you have a good understanding of whats going on I would never advocate to anyone to try to wrench it off not knowing how hard they are going to force the valve. Thanks for taking the time to comment and share your experiences! Take Care
Thank God delta now makes their rough valves one solid piece. Those little copper tubes were ridiculous.
Before I cut the bonnet nut I use the torch on the nut to melt the cartridge a little. Works on the crystal ball deltas also
Good to know thanks for the tip
The dremel grinding wheel is one of my favorite tools!
LOL, I was thinking this exactly as I looked at my valve.
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Well done and very clearly shown. Thanks!
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All right thanks ! it worked but extra tip : take some cutters and try to cut the outside of the nut to make a good outside groove.
Thanks for the tip, glad you enjoyed the video!
Never destroyed the locking ring, I used my torch to heat up the ring and loosened it. The cartridge will get a little melted but I'm replacing it anyway. Also I apply a little valve grease to the ring nut threads to make it easier for the future.
Awesome, glad things worked it and you were able to get it changed. thanks for sharing
Saw the video so took extra caution. Of course the the whole damn valve assembly was only secured by the cap/faceplate when screwed in from the front. I was able to use two pairs of channel locks with one to hold the valve assembly solid and the other to loose. Worked well.
Glad the video helped and yes I have seen some very poor installations of these things. The main propose of the video was to get people to stop and slow down and use caution when working o these valves. Thanks for leaving a comment and take care!
Ty Bro.
Very easy to do it like that.
I found that problem in my shower faucet.
Thanks and glad i could help. Hope to hear from you on future videos
This worked AMAZING. I was definitely about to put the hammer down on some channel locks to get it off. You saved me time and money!
Glad the video helped! Take care
Thanks man! Saved me from making that mistake! 👍
Glad the video helped and thanks for sharing!
The tapping motion is what got mines off..thanks
Glad you were able to make the repair!
great video. i have just fixed mine by exactly following this video.
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I used a oil 🛢 filter strap the rubber won't hurt the pipe and it came off easily plus we sprayed a little wd 40 worked great 👍
Thanks man that is a great idea! My problem was the cartridge would not come out after spending a day on it! Had to replace the whole shower valve
Thanks for checking out the channel! They can be a difficult thing to repair for sure.
Many thanks for this super helpful video. It worked like a charm. (Years ago I tried the just keep torquing approach and discovered Niagara Falls in our basement, as you described)
Glad the video helped and thanks for sharing!
I use a small butane torch to heat up and bake off the minerals that are binding the threads. Works every time without torquing or tapping onto the valve body.
😬 I just used a pipe wrench on the ring and a pair of channel locks to hold backup on the housing part. That, plus a ton of WD40 worked for me finally.
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I have removed at least three of the rings using a strap wrench ( the kind used for removing the oil filter to a vehicle) I find it applys equal pressure to the ring. The strap wrench will keep you from damaging the old or new ring when working on the shower valve. If unsuccessful then I will resort to cutting the ring.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! I'm about to do this job on my faucet and didn't have a clue. Awesome tips!
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OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION!!! Thank you. :)
Thank you so much for this useful video. Unfortunately, I saw it too late 😭 🤣
Me too
Sorry to hear of the issue, I have. few other videos up now that discusses some alternatives if it gets broken. Hope you were able to get the issue resolved. Thanks for commenting and checking out the channel!
🤔 l used to be apts main! Put W40 wait about 1- 2 hrs then use 2 channelloks big ones and mid!! The bigs to turn the ring the mid to hold the valve!!😎👍🍺
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This is truly "Good to know" stuff !!!!! Thank you sir !
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I was lazy and used a Dremel and ended up cutting into the threads a little so your method is safer. I was careful and the threads are still OK, however, I worried for a second. Good thing I didn't use a body grinder. Thanks for the video.
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