The Honda CB750 Hornet Is Great!... Yet I Don't Want One
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- The middleweight naked bike category is getting fiercer and fiercer... This is Honda's response, and at first glance it almost looks too good to be true! The Hornet comes at an amazing price, promises amazing features... But is it really that amazing?
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0:00 Intro
0:41 The Original Hornet
1:33 Design is subjective
2:35 I'm confused...
3:30 Handling Perfection
4:22 The bad
5:13 Yet still...
6:35 Does it live up to the legacy?
#honda #hornet #cb750 
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Look, let everyone make up their own mind. I personally borrowed a motorbike, went for a ride and have already ordered it. Yes, a lot of people say that the Hornet is similar to the 500f (which I've always liked), but when the dealer put them side by side in the store, the Hornet is so much more massive and visually bigger, and it fit me really well and immediately I fell in love with the Hornet (I will have it in the yellow version😍🤤)... Well, if I take things like brand, price, performance, technology and components used, I do not have anything against😊 But let everyone buy what they want and what they like👍
Greetings from Czech Republic and have a nice day peoples🙋♂️🍀😊
It’s a free country, everyone should buy whatever they like at the end of the day :)
@@KRANKiT 👍🏍🤜🤛🏍😊
test ride the new hornet last week (no jerkiness very smooth and punchy engine) and loved it so much i buy, can't be my main bike but as a commuter and for city ride it will be perfect
here it only cost 7800€ and you get a lot of bike for that money
All markets are relative, but either way, the Hornet is great value!
Yes they did very well. This is 2023 not 1993, back in 1993 you had V twins and in line 4 everywhere. Any 599cc bike was an in line 4. Times have changed. The Yamaha MT-07 is the most sold bike on the market, so Honda gave us an "MT-07" better than the real MT-07 and I think they made the right choice. You're still very young and you dream about a past that you did not live in. I'm tired of in Line 4 bikes, you fill up the tank and after 150 km you have to fill it up again. The Parallel twin is the new in line 4.
The looks of this bike was a big reason I bought one
Honda knows exactly what they are doing. After owning 2 mt09s (1st and 3rd gen) riding the hornet felt so good
The quality of the content is always improving, well done! Nevertheless, I think you just tested the current and future jackpot of the middleweights ✌️
Well, I haven’t tested all of the middleweights ... but it is a contender for sure :)
In my opinion the CB 650 R is the new Hornet.This one only shares the name.
Where I live the CB 750 costs 12.150 Euros.And the average month salary is 400 Euros.
where is that? in my country it's 9000 euros and average salary is like 2500 euros. 12,150 is really expensive..
@@donderstorm1845 It's in Türkiye.
@@ATIL1304 wow. why so expensive? tariffs or something?
@@donderstorm1845 it’s tax.Our wonderful government invented a new tax model called something like ‘ Private ( special ) consumption tax ‘ .Which is % 40 of the price tag.And also the currency plays a role.1 Euro is 35 Turkish Lira today.
@@ATIL1304 that's a lot of tax jeez. feel bad for motorcycle lovers in turkey. need to work a lot and a long time for an average person to afford that.
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Thanks man!
Nice review, thanks. I feel that the real steal for this beauty has to be the very competitive price. If I was looking for a new set of wheels, I have to say I’d definitely be looking at this Honda
Yeah, at the price point that we’re talking about, it’s a strong competitor for sure
Great review!
Thanks!
It’s only this bikes first year of production. I’m sure future models will have improvements and any issues corrected.
I can’t wait to ride one of these! Sorry you’re not a fan, obviously they’re not for everyone.
They’ll get better, for sure. Just because it’s not the bike for me, doesn’t mean it’s not a great bike. And that’s exactly what I said
Thanks for a well done honest review! Question: If the title of this review was "The Yamaha MT09 SP is Great! would "Yet I Don't Want One" also apply, or for that matter the base MT09 or even the MT07?
I don’t know, I’ve never ridden an MT-09 ... what I can say is that I do love a good middleweight naked, so if it ticks all the right boxes for me ... why not?
100% agree with you when it comes to the quality feel.
I saw the new Hornet at a local motorshow about a month ago and right next to it there was a CB650R.
When you see them side by side you get why the Hornet is cheaper - the CB650R feels like a more premium product with better fit and finish as well as more attention to the small details.
I didn’t get to see them side by side, but I know what you’re saying
I personally had the opportunity to compare the Honda CB 500f, Hornet and Cb650r side by side directly at the store, and in terms of appearance, the Hornet simply belongs right in the middle, but it definitely does not seem like a low-quality product to me! In addition, the CB650r is slightly more expensive, mainly due to its more robust construction and larger engine (4 cylinders). But I respect your opinion👍
Nice review, I enjoyed the review and videography. What about the GSX 8S?
I’ll let you know when I get to ride one :)
The bike was built to fight with the middleweight competition and not cb650r. Look how good bike Honda made that most reviewers compare it to another Honda bike. CB650R is a great, good looking, 4 cylinder bike but if you look at specs you will see few interesting facts. Max torque on 2 cylinder is higher at lower revs (63 nm at 9500 vs 75/7000 in new hornet). Weight is also a factor when it comes to city bike (203 vs 190 in new hornet). Position on hornet is more upright and more relaxed for taller riders. The only thing that is worse than competition is a 160 tire at the back but on the other hand you don't have to bend in twisties so much to keep the same line - that's why many heavy adventure bikes have 110 and 150. I am looking to buy a new bike after selling my FJR1300 and CB650R looked like a no brainer for me at the start of my search, now at least i have to drive both.
You have absolutely right. Cb650r is other category. This is the real hornet . Maybe the name hornet 750 for the cb750 is only for marketing.
Anyway I sold my nt1100 dct to get the hornet 750. So nice all around bike.
GC, love to see it, fantastic roads.
Yep, that’s right, I absolutely loved it there!
I had a 2004 599, it was really fun 🥲
I believe you ...
I have several in-line fours but I didn’t realize how much I liked p twins until I bought a 650 Versys (except for its boring 180 firing order). Now a 270 will cure that. I also had a cb500F but that engine was too weak. The Versys was fine. I’m going to hold off until I demo the new Suzuki 8S.
I’ll give you that, Kawasaki 650s are probably some of the more soulless parallel twins ... this Hornet is way better in that regard!
@@KRANKiT They are reliable and good power but so bland until you get high in the rpm
After training on an MT-07 for my unrestricted license, it took me a little while to figure out how to get the same level of fun and playfulness out of my rather grown-up in comparison CB650R. Now that I have, I miss basically nothing about the crossplane twin, and the 650R's suspension blows the MT-07 out of the water.
That is to say, this new Hornet is probably an ideal beginner's first big bike, but unfortunately it doesn't really offer anything I want that I don't already get out of my 650R.
What's worse - they've stuffed it full of electronics and taken away perhaps the best feature both the MT-07 and 650R have in common - the cable throttle. I get that there are a whole host of benefits to going electronic, but to me, none of those make up for the loss of feel.
The 650R is a weird bike in its category. It's paired up with bikes built up to a budget and then you have a CB which feels so much different to it's competitors it feels premium, it's very very fast compared to the other 650 class, it can punch up its weight to the Z900 and the likes... but it's not a 600 supersport still.... very out of place bike but that's a good thing.
@@neoretroguy4488 We like weird and different, it's what keeps life fun ;)
But I agree, it occupies its own little niche in the market. I also like that they just took the plastics and clip-ons off the CBR and stuck on a nice headlight to make a naked without cheapening the whole bike in the process. Though it would have been closer to a "true" cafe racer with the clip-ons imho.
This bike makes a lot of sense in the current market, it's here to dethrone the MT07.
I can see that happening ...
When you say flame out, I guess what happened is the traction control cut in, I have it in my gravel path and it takes a few moments to give power again. I find the fueling fine but then I've only had older bikes the you had to ride around various foibles, for me I love the engine, and it's fairly economical too.
No, it’s even with the clutch pulled in ... maybe they updated it a bit since I rode it
I was planning on getting the white one but instead ended up with a two year old KTM 790 Duke, no regrets ;-)
Hope you’ll enjoy many more miles!
Until it goes wrong 😢
I think you're missing the point of this Hornet. It's not meant to compete with the 650R platform, that's in a class of its own. It's meant to eat the MT-07's lunch. Aside from looks (and bloody electronic throttles), it's positioned to do just that and I believe it absolutely will.
For the longest time, the MT-07 has been the choice for the budget-conscious first big bike buyer in the naked segment. And now Honda offer something 1. cheaper; 2. better handling; and 3. feature rich... yeh, Yamaha are in trouble.
Also, I may rag on about electronic throttles (and how shite they feel), but it seems most riders out there (especially newer ones) aren't purist tw@ts like me, so to them it's not even a downside. That leaves just looks. And for most people on a budget that makes it a no-brainer.
I don’t think they compete, indeed ... but I wouldn’t be surprised if they axed the 650 and brought in a new, neo-classic type bike based on the new Hornet.
@@KRANKiT Naw, the 650R has been selling like hot cakes. I think they'll wait and see if the new Hornet canibalises its sales first. If it does, then they'll axe it, but I'm doubtful about that.
I test hornet , cb650r , cbr650.
I order the hornet. For my body type was the best.i fit much more better on the hornet.lighter, shorter same power. So fun to drive bike.
Hope you'll enjoy many miles on it!
Is the throttle as snatchy as the MT-07? Does adjusting the engine braking/riding modes affect the throttle response? Also if you set aside the "bias" you mentioned in the video and weight it as it is against its main rivals, the MT-07 and the Trident, how does this bike hold up?
I haven’t ridden the mt-07, only the Tenere 700. In comparison, the Hornet was noticeably worse when it comes to snatchyness. I don’t want to give an opinion on its competitors if I haven’t ridden them, that’s why I didn’t make a lot of comparisons between models in the video either.
would be interesting to see your take on the GSX-8S in comparison
get the comfort seat upgrade, I was on it 2.5hrs no issue. reaching for clutch lever / trafficator is a stretch
Is that seat a bit taller than stock?
Wonderful video. What an underrated channel. Keep up the great work and people will catch on!
Thank you!
Turn the engine breaking down and the snatchy throttle issue goes away. Its a problem with the ECU switching from engine breaking to power, the contrast between high breaking torque and high acceleration torque at low revs can upset the suspension balance.
That’s interesting to hear
The reviewer, of your review, accusing you of bias, was quite amusing. Do these people think that vloggers are there to confirm their own opinions, or those of the manufacturer? - Actually, in many cases, I find, the answer to these questions is yes. Well done for not doing this. Excellent review. The fuelling is a worry to me. I have a CB650R, which is basically a Hornet. This bike isn't one. I love the dash, and the price; but loathe the looks of the thing - especially the headlight, which is unforgiveable.
It’s actually weird that they didn’t call the 650 a Hornet officially ... now from what I know at least. Either way, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
First time watching your channel...nice usage of the drone and the video footage overall very good.
Now, I am a proud and happy owner of a CB650r with 30.000 kms and no intentions of moving to any bike and still today I cannot stand to see this hornet, since the day it was first revealed it looks fugly and cheap.
Is a lot of recycled leftover parts from the 500 family just look at the muffler, the seat, etc the headlight and the swingarm just look blehhhh when comparing it to my cb650r.
Yes, i will also pass on this one.
Ps: in fact in my region this will not be sold so there is a card trick here I assume Honda was thinking this was doing to replace the 650 but even though is too early to see sales figures I will bet they are going to keep both since this one I do not see it selling that very well.
I’m curious what Honda’s plans are for the future, since I don’t know how they’ll justify keeping two different competing platforms in their lineup
im so on the fence if i should get one or not.
Try test riding one if you can!
I get understand your opinion on the bike, but 2yrs from now it will be the most modified bike around, it will be Hondas r nine t
Tell it like it is, Krankit I love that you don't copy the other bloggers, you point out all the negatives that the manufacturer cover-up. Keep up the good work. Any thoughts on the Kawasaki Rs 900.
Thank you! I didn’t ride one yet unfortunately, but I’d love to one day!
Feels like a commuter bike or maybe even for part time food delivery.
Take the 750 mechanicals, then throw the cbr 650 suit over it, yeah, I,d buy that in a heart beat.
That would be sexy. And actually, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Honda were to bring this in the future
Hello brow. Where you live? Incredible place.
Well,I live in Romania. But this video and the next one were shot in Gran Canaria. And yes, it’s a really amazing place. A place that every biker should have on their bucket list
I have a 184cc hornet 😄
Suggest showing the price without VAT/taxes, or making it clear it includes 19% VAT. Not everyone has the same tax brackets, and can be misleading. Price without VAT is on the manufacturer/dealer, VAT is on the local government.
While that is true, I think it’s a bit more confusing and it makes bikes look cheaper than they actually are for most people. Also, even without tax, base line pricing is different between countries, so there isn’t one price to rule them all.
@@KRANKiT VAT in the EU ranges from 19 to 27%. Just the EU. Don’t see how that is less confusing when talking prices.
I see your point, and it’s not a bad one ... I’ll think of something for the future, but since my audience is international it won’t be easy to find one price to fit best :) but thanks for the suggestion, I’ll consider it in the future!
@@KRANKiT Is why I'm suggesting displaying the price without taxes
Where are they building them? The quality doesn't look like they are built-in Japan!
2004/2007❤ good
how tall are you?
172cm
I probably won't be buying one either but for a different reason. For whatever reason the Hornet is not in the current Honda US lineup and at this moment I've found nothing to indicate this will change in the near future. If not for this the Hornet could end up being my choice for a 750ish 270° P-twin but I won't be too disappointed if I end up on a GSX 8S or 790 Duke. I agree the CB650R is a bit better looking than any of the twins but less attractive overall because of its comparatively weak low and mid range power output! For fun and character I'll take a good 270° P-twin over a four for street riding any day!
I had no idea the Hornet wasn’t on the US lineup, I really hope they’ll bring it over to your side of the pond! With everyone else doing that,I don’t see why honda would keep it away from you
@@KRANKiT I saw on an internet post, (for what that's worth), that they are postponing the North American release until next year, along with a speculation that it might be because Honda can't crank out enough of them to satisfy the world demand.
@@KRANKiT Probably some sort of government regulatory red tape. I'm disappointed but I'm sure Honda is a lot more upset. Still waiting on road tests/reviews of the GSX 8S and hopefully will have some Hornet availability info by then.
@@peterwilson8039 Not what I wanted to hear but thanks for sharing! If true good news for Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, CFMoto and KTM though. Would be nice to hear something official from Honda.
New 650?
I meant to say 750 if referring to the Hornet
The only purpose for making this was to take market share of yamaha mt 07
They’ll definitely take some of it! Seems like a pretty good in between of the 07 and 09
the design is subjective, the personal feelings, that is, yours are too, what is really a fact is that this hornet is much superior in technical specifications to the mt 07 and the kawa 650, with a price similar to those mentioned above, ,,,, it caught my attention, that you would not ride the hornet without traction control, why didn't you do it, the character of the motorcycle changes drastically if you do,,, fortunately it is not a motorcycle for you, said In his own words, here in my country there are many "geniuses" who recommend motorcycles and don't even know how to add, I thought that this was only possible in this country of ignoramuses, like Colombia, but it seems that evil is worldwide,.,.,.greetings,.,.
Is it just me, or does this one remind anyone else of the CB125F?
I don't know, it just looks to me like my 125 grew a bigger engine and some nicer suspension
How do you compare a CB125F cc with 9 HP vs the CB750F with 91 HP? Not even the CB500F compares with this CB750.
@@tonymartinez7205 I just said it looks like it. Especially from the front.
this video is way too professional for 2.36k RUclipsr. Here, take my SUB!
About Honda. Where I live the CB650r is only 800e more expensive than Hornet. I would take 100 times CB650r instead of this ugly Hornet. Honda could make beauifull bike, another legend. A bike should look like it looked on early design projects, and yet they created "CB500 on steroids" with already looks like it has 8 years old
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed it! And yeah, that’s about the price difference in my market too, maybe a bit more at times
I must have a motorcycle that I enjoy looking at in addition to riding!
The Hornet is ugly!
This is what happens when Honda tries to be a Kawasaki.
Not at all, the hornet has existed before...
The CB650R is more like a Hornet
New hornet is a dissapointment.not that the old hornet was something special.i dont understant why you praise it so much.anyway,just see the handlebars in this bike...its for laughs
7000 is the price, you want brembos??? Buy a Ducati for 30 000