The Internet Is Turning On Critical Drinker - But Why?

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  • The Critical Drinker has recently been under attack by many people online, who are most likely Disney fans, accusing him of being a toxic fan and a grifter. However I'd argue he does more good than bad as the recent Helldivers 2 situation proves we need loud voices for the fans so that studios like Sony and Disney hear our perspectives and are forced into taking action. So the grift and toxic argument is clearly ridiculous for all the reasons I outline in this video essay.
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  • @rickwj324
    @rickwj324 27 дней назад +2050

    Critical Drinker is awesome.

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +178

      100%

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 27 дней назад +150

      He's usually on point, which is why he's being attacked.

    • @NoshikiYT
      @NoshikiYT 27 дней назад +50

      @@noneyabizz8337meh he’s fine in my opinion plus his views don’t offend anyone besides soft and people who don’t want to hear his opinions

    • @Dummy_israndom
      @Dummy_israndom 27 дней назад +3

      ​@@thejessegrant *0%

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 27 дней назад +18

      ​@@NoshikiYTnot really. His typr of content appeals to toxic people. Either internet keyboard warriors or people that go on the internet looking for reasons to be angry.
      Like a wrestler known as CM Punk. Or YongYea, Griffin Gaming, etc. The entire audience goes online to be angry all the time and behaves like only one opinion is correct.
      And its so easy for the same audience to turn against the RUclipsr. Same reason wrestling fans turned on CM Punk.

  • @SlipdeGarcondeJour
    @SlipdeGarcondeJour 27 дней назад +1655

    Attacking his opinions is entirely valid. Attacking him as a person is cringe, and counterproductive.

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 27 дней назад +6

      .....isn't that technically the same thing?

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 27 дней назад +27

      He relies purely on people's angry and rage for views. Its toxic, and those type of RUclipsrs always get their same toxic audience turned against them

    • @liquidamerican8543
      @liquidamerican8543 27 дней назад +88

      @@keelanbarron928 No. How would that be the same thing? Care to explain your reasoning?

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 27 дней назад +14

      ​@@keelanbarron928According to Critical Drinker and his fans, there is just one right opinion. Anything else is a false review. That also means Critical Drinker: by his own standards cant have the wrong opinion either.

    • @yummiestfern2316
      @yummiestfern2316 27 дней назад

      @@sumnahlennon5449provide some evidence for that claim

  • @TheHansen01
    @TheHansen01 27 дней назад +1099

    I don't understand why people call him a "grifter". I've watched him for years and have never seen him sell anything. Dude literally just talks about stuff lol.

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up 27 дней назад

      Because they have no arguments so they resort to name-calling, and they like to call anyone who points out all the woke stuff a grifter even though the real grifters are them and their "consultancy agencies"

    • @kdog3908
      @kdog3908 27 дней назад +55

      I'd argue it's because the meaning of the word 'grifter' has drifted from its original meaning. Unless we can establish how it's being used before we discuss anything it will almost always lead to people talking past each other. In the case of The Critical Drinker (and many others), it's often being used to say he's someone I don't like, or he's dishonest and a fraud. I don't think TCD uses film critique as a vehicle to push a political agenda, which would be political grifting. I think he just genuinely enjoys critiquing film and popular media.

    • @artnull13
      @artnull13 27 дней назад +20

      Watch his review on Arcane then watch an actual critical review by Whatthe40k titled ‘Arcane: not as great as you think’. Point is at some point he sold out his scruples for some superficial takes probably to gain subscribers from a different demographic or base. This is now so much more obvious where the Drinker praises the fallout tv series whilst Mauler evicerates it.

    • @blackosprey2219
      @blackosprey2219 27 дней назад +50

      You're dealing with people who are convinced that the only way you could disagree with them is if you're stupid or lying.

    • @Kamehaiku
      @Kamehaiku 27 дней назад +1

      ​@solarydays you mean politics in general 🙄

  • @darkhighwayman1757
    @darkhighwayman1757 27 дней назад +714

    He's a dude who wants good movies, tv and games.

    • @trollking6315
      @trollking6315 27 дней назад +1

      chud

    • @mal35m-dw2qv
      @mal35m-dw2qv 27 дней назад +13

      Well there your are. No wonder why movie, TV and game studios Hat. E. him so much.

    • @mal35m-dw2qv
      @mal35m-dw2qv 27 дней назад

      They want to shovel Wok. E. Poo bear at us while we shovel money to them. Instead of fighting him they should listen to him.

    • @mal35m-dw2qv
      @mal35m-dw2qv 27 дней назад +21

      Critical Drinker did not cause the problems with these IPS, he and others are only reporting on why they are having problems with IPs that should be like a license to print money.

    • @nyetzdyec3391
      @nyetzdyec3391 27 дней назад +14

      Unlike a lot of the people *making* the movies... who see it as nothing more than a job and a platform to push their own agenda... while subverting the existing IP's...
      Reminder... "subvert" means TO RUIN.

  • @martijnklaassen3536
    @martijnklaassen3536 27 дней назад +1268

    The Drinkers video of some movies is more entertainment then the movie itself

  • @rofalmatt
    @rofalmatt 27 дней назад +1228

    Drinker isnt grifring people. He is not logan paul scamming people to buy his crypto

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +78

      Ahaha so true

    • @darioactive-man3287
      @darioactive-man3287 27 дней назад

      he has no advertisments,, no sponsors,..and have just an immense knowhow about storytelling in general,..thats why he is so well recieved,..he IS an author,..unlike Hollywoods diversity hires for example,..

    • @Silverblade416
      @Silverblade416 27 дней назад +30

      You're. . . Right.
      In fact, why do they not go after people like Lopan Gaul? Or whatever the hell his name is.
      Is it for attention? It doesn't mean they go against the tide against something does not mean they make profound pointers. . . It doesn't even benefit themselves to oppose what everyone rationally and logically knows is right. . . Why do they support what obviously stabs them on the back AND front?!
      So it leads back to a single-letter question for this matter: *WHY?*

    • @abombnyy13
      @abombnyy13 27 дней назад +57

      People Calling him A grifter for just giving his honest opinion is not shocking in the slightest

    • @earlvaughan-williams3835
      @earlvaughan-williams3835 27 дней назад +16

      @@Silverblade416selective outrage

  • @Jammsbro1
    @Jammsbro1 27 дней назад +273

    "The internet" aren't attacking him, a bunc of panicking, whiners are. And losing.

    • @vfvs11a
      @vfvs11a 26 дней назад +16

      He doesn't agree with right think (aka left think), therefore he must be canceled.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад

      Yep, little cry babies who can't handle anyone outside their echo chamber.

    • @mikeexits
      @mikeexits 13 часов назад

      The Tumblratti.

  • @dogstar5927
    @dogstar5927 27 дней назад +635

    The Drinker always has my vote !

  • @chadb9270
    @chadb9270 27 дней назад +611

    The drinker is currently doing more to improve Hollywood than all of Hollywood.

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +20

      Ahahaha so true

    • @G360LIVE
      @G360LIVE 27 дней назад +7

      @@thejessegrant
      Not true. Name one movie that was improved because he said something. I'll wait...🙃

    • @NordicDan
      @NordicDan 27 дней назад +32

      @@G360LIVE His reviews of shitty movies are better than the actual movies. Hollywood didn't make anything better, but the Drinker took their excretions and made something entertaining out of them.

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 27 дней назад +4

      @@NordicDanthe actual movies are better than his reviews

    • @NordicDan
      @NordicDan 27 дней назад +24

      @@yarc9 well then you just go right ahead and enjoy the likes of Damsel and The Acolyte.

  • @lanceestrella5472
    @lanceestrella5472 27 дней назад +319

    Critical Drinker is a solid guy. I like him

    • @whynot1548
      @whynot1548 27 дней назад +2

      Why cuz he's anti woke? Most people are. That doesnt make him a good critic

    • @sup3414
      @sup3414 27 дней назад +11

      ​@@whynot1548wtf is even "anti woke"? Is that even a damn word?

    • @trizahnganga8405
      @trizahnganga8405 26 дней назад

      me too

    • @kazamakell
      @kazamakell 26 дней назад +3

      @@sup3414 i believe that means normal people grounded in reality

    • @diemes5463
      @diemes5463 25 дней назад

      @@whynot1548 his takes are actually pretty mild in comparison to others

  • @unncommonsense
    @unncommonsense 27 дней назад +75

    They can call him what they like, but they can't call him wrong.

    • @akatsukicloak
      @akatsukicloak 26 дней назад +5

      I can call him wrong easily, because his "the message" is a punchline for his videos to harness views, he's a grifter, whenever the movie or tv show is doing well he completely ignores said message to not lose his audience.

    • @Stathio
      @Stathio 26 дней назад +4

      He's wrong.

    • @The_Funniest_Cut
      @The_Funniest_Cut 25 дней назад +3

      @@akatsukicloakOkay lol

    • @liamjm9278
      @liamjm9278 25 дней назад +4

      @@akatsukicloak Like what?

    • @bjornskivids
      @bjornskivids 24 дня назад +7

      @@akatsukicloak He's not a grifter. He just has opinions which don't always further your political narratives.
      I don't always agree with him either. But then if you agree with someone 100% of the time, you should probably ask yourself why

  • @mikemulvey5789
    @mikemulvey5789 27 дней назад +179

    I find it ironic and disturbing that The Critical Drinker is being accused of pandering to a particular political ideology while the very companies he critiques are openly and overtly doing the same damn thing.

    • @paulelroy6650
      @paulelroy6650 26 дней назад +8

      he’s doing just that though. he will butch and moan and you melts will go along with it so he keeps doing the same thing and the cycle continues. most of the things he slags off people just blinding follow his shitty opinion before they even give a film or tv show a chance.

    • @mikemulvey5789
      @mikemulvey5789 26 дней назад +35

      @@paulelroy6650 those shows you are defending are shit, plain and simple. The RIngs of Power doesn’t need to be given a chance, its bad writing, its disrespectful of the source material, and the creators openly mock and antagonize the fans. That is just one example, all of modern Hollywood seems to be hell bent on following this model

    • @MarquezDaniel
      @MarquezDaniel 25 дней назад +2

      So you agree that the woke and anti woke basically act the same?

    • @ElAssoWipe-o
      @ElAssoWipe-o 25 дней назад +13

      @@MarquezDaniel They're not the same. You're just claiming that they're same in order to trick people into supporting woke content.

    • @MarquezDaniel
      @MarquezDaniel 25 дней назад

      @@ElAssoWipe-o they’re the same in getting triggered at everything that may be perceived as woke or anti woke. How am I supporting woke content? See that’s what I mean y’all just throw the word woke around like how the left throw the word nazi around. The anti woke have become the very thing they hate.

  • @WolfmanArt
    @WolfmanArt 27 дней назад +531

    At least RUclips critics are more honest, just like the Critical Drinker.

    • @NoshikiYT
      @NoshikiYT 27 дней назад +14

      Honesty is the best policy

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 27 дней назад +7

      That's the problem, isn't it?

    • @Tompa8411
      @Tompa8411 27 дней назад +20

      YEP that's why so many listen to RUclips critics today instead of the magazine reviews

    • @matthewshort4466
      @matthewshort4466 27 дней назад +13

      He’s not honest. He has a formulated opinion on most things, purposely misses information in order to prove his narrative right and flat out lies. He has a good message behind him but I think he is far too dishonest to take seriously

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 27 дней назад +7

      ​@@Tompa8411RUclips critics *ARE NOT HONEST.* They prioritize drama and rage and go in the direction they [think] their angry audience wants.
      Just like Twitter warriors [you] they act like any and all opinions they have are fact and law. And overall have a toxic comment section.
      Critical Drinker is another one of those guys. But relying on outtage for views means that very toxic audience you created can turn on you

  • @zezeti2246
    @zezeti2246 27 дней назад +262

    They hate it that someone popular is saying what a high majority of us already think,but are not heard on our own😊

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +21

      100%

    • @joseherrera8489
      @joseherrera8489 27 дней назад +9

      No, you're a small minority. But a loud one.

    • @kinabalucat
      @kinabalucat 26 дней назад +22

      @@joseherrera8489notice how nobody like your comment? majority entertainment consumers are agreeing with him. you can also read other comments here

    • @storkfletcher821
      @storkfletcher821 26 дней назад +4

      @@kinabalucat You should probably go to school if you think something like getting likes on a contrary sub-comment on a video about that the Drinker is good means anything. You don't have clue about what the majority of consumers think because there isn't proper data to establish that. This is how ignorant people that are desperate to have others support their opinions argue.
      The opinion isn't the point here, the terrible arguing for it is.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 26 дней назад

      @@kinabalucat "notice how nobody like your comment?"
      Because he is in YOUR echo chamber you donut! If you struggle with the simple stuff, Jesus...

  • @victord3867
    @victord3867 27 дней назад +80

    Give customers what they want. That's like business 101

    • @jacejackson5253
      @jacejackson5253 26 дней назад +4

      It's also just plain obvious.

    • @zmortis111
      @zmortis111 26 дней назад

      The new rule is hype something to make the customer think they are missing out if they don't get it, and bundle it with marxist ideology disguised as social issues.

  • @Sonicsaber
    @Sonicsaber 27 дней назад +42

    "You know you are over the target when the flak is heaviest."
    Never has a quote been proven more right than now with stuff like this happening. They can't control what comes out of his mouth, so they gotta run the buzzword list to find something to disparage what he says. Its become textbook at this point.

  • @fictitiousart6410
    @fictitiousart6410 27 дней назад +195

    Colonel Drinker is fucking awesome.

  • @jamesrippy1161
    @jamesrippy1161 27 дней назад +303

    The people who’ve been promoting “the message” have been proven how wrong they are but instead of admitting their own incompetence they’d rather resort to name-calling and false allegations against those like the drinker and nerdrotic who’ve been calling them out for years

    • @ErikDeMann
      @ErikDeMann 27 дней назад +1

      Indoctrination inevitably turns the weakminded into fanatics, because their belief system is all they have.

    • @mikitz
      @mikitz 27 дней назад +25

      A narcissist never assumes accountability, only shifts the blame on anyone else.
      Also, for them, confidence equals competence.

    • @Kamehaiku
      @Kamehaiku 27 дней назад +7

      ​@mikitz then the entire internet as a whole is narcissistic.

    • @trollking6315
      @trollking6315 27 дней назад +1

      chud

    • @fredfredburger5150
      @fredfredburger5150 26 дней назад +1

      No no no you have to put an asterisk before and after so it reads as *the message*

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 27 дней назад +55

    I'm a freaking gay man and at this point the drunken Scotsman is the only critic I trust anymore.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад +10

      Bro I'm a straight white man and I back you. We're not attacking you; we're attacking the people who constantly want to create division. These modern people want to create chaos and benefit from it, they don't care about you, just themselves.

  • @djfireblade
    @djfireblade 27 дней назад +183

    Disney stock collapse today is testament to ignoring these critics and fans

    • @jimbrown2688
      @jimbrown2688 26 дней назад +8

      Disney collapse is pure self harm. Absolutely nothing to do with Drinker or other online reviewers.

    • @diemes5463
      @diemes5463 25 дней назад

      @@jimbrown2688 it's been having a growing effect, nerdrotic was on Fox news recently, so the reach of their criticism is going beyond youtube

    • @penske_material
      @penske_material 8 дней назад

      has it really collapsed though? They seem to be doing fine.

    • @Murdock347
      @Murdock347 7 дней назад +1

      Again that collapse is not that significant as Disney also has ways to boost up their stocks by also listening to their fans, but ofc grifters like to ignore those and nitpick on their flaws

    • @Zaphod771
      @Zaphod771 7 дней назад

      ​@@penske_material, most companies can be forgiven for performance in 2020 due to lockdowns, etc. Track company values from 2021, and in the entertainment sector, Disney is doing something wrong. They are on a clear downward trend, not a momentary 1 percent "dip." They have lost over a FIFTH of their 2021 value. Adjusted for inflation, it is actually worse than almost every other company except 20th Century Fox (whom Disney bought). Not that anyone else is doing that well either. Disney is simply winning the race to the bottom after being on top for so long, and that is startling.

  • @lulubugs2752
    @lulubugs2752 27 дней назад +105

    So basically another ordinary day for Drinker?

  • @DekkarJr
    @DekkarJr 27 дней назад +26

    Why?
    Because he is standing up.

  • @TheAsiandramafreak
    @TheAsiandramafreak 27 дней назад +60

    They are panicking because they are collapsing, it’s just the sound of barking dogs

    • @Best.Of.Britian
      @Best.Of.Britian 25 дней назад +4

      Basically the cornered animal just aiming to cause as much damage as possible before getting eaten alive

  • @redschect3r
    @redschect3r 27 дней назад +59

    He’s always been under fire by certain people but was never considered big enough to be much of a threat to “the message”. He must be having more of an impact now.

    • @Mac-eo4bc
      @Mac-eo4bc 27 дней назад +12

      Him and Nerdrotic got interviewed on TV
      So definitely

    • @amyb.6368
      @amyb.6368 27 дней назад +6

      If you're getting flak, you're over the target, as they say.

    • @robchuk4136
      @robchuk4136 26 дней назад +1

      Exactly.

  • @sakkra93
    @sakkra93 27 дней назад +142

    He who tells unpopular truths will never be popular to those who believe perfect fantasies.

    • @parthpandey9502
      @parthpandey9502 27 дней назад +5

      Wow somehow that's better than all the dialogue in Rebel moon. Good job buddy 🎉🎉🎉

    • @trollking6315
      @trollking6315 27 дней назад +1

      chud

    • @whynot1548
      @whynot1548 27 дней назад +4

      It doesnt take any brain, wisdom, or any artistic integrity to be a film snob on the web.
      And being anti-woke doesnt make Critical Drinker a treasure. He's just as one dimensional as any critic at Entertainment Weekly

    • @adamgardner2244
      @adamgardner2244 26 дней назад +1

      Well said

    • @ClockworkGearhead
      @ClockworkGearhead 23 дня назад +3

      @@whynot1548 He's never called himself that and no one ever claimed he was. He is, however, right, and you are wrong.
      So, if he's "one dimensional," that makes you entirely devoid of substance altogether.

  • @sebastiansauve3752
    @sebastiansauve3752 27 дней назад +14

    Studios only want critics that agree with them to talk about their films.

  • @darioactive-man3287
    @darioactive-man3287 27 дней назад +19

    ,...anyway,,,thats all i got for today,...GO AWAY NOW !

  • @jamesdouglass2724
    @jamesdouglass2724 27 дней назад +10

    Utter bs; he’s no grifter; doesn’t do promotions or ads. He just entertains us. If you don’t like him don’t want him. Simple

  • @DorkySwimmer
    @DorkySwimmer 27 дней назад +214

    A wise man once said;
    "Toxic fans, you suck."

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +18

      Ahahaha

    • @trizahnganga8405
      @trizahnganga8405 26 дней назад +4

      hahaha

    • @vfvs11a
      @vfvs11a 26 дней назад

      Toxic Fan = any fan who has an opinion to the right of Marx or doesn't like "entertainment" that is just a series of DEI and leftwing check boxes.

  • @froufroufeatherstone6291
    @froufroufeatherstone6291 27 дней назад +116

    How many bots does it take to destroy a critic?

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +6

      Ahahaha so true

    • @trollking6315
      @trollking6315 27 дней назад +3

      Which is funny because all the simps in this comment section seem like bots.

    • @whynot1548
      @whynot1548 27 дней назад

      What if the Critic is also a bot?.....

    • @omarrashid6170
      @omarrashid6170 26 дней назад

      @@trollking6315 Simps are leftards not on the right, Numbnuts ????

    • @bjornskivids
      @bjornskivids 24 дня назад +4

      @@trollking6315 You are SO mad that people like him.
      Which of your favorite shows did he not like that made you so mad? One of the Star Wars shows?

  • @andy62501
    @andy62501 27 дней назад +14

    As soon as people started posting Tha Message in the comments sections of Disney trailers he got a target painted on his back

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад

      Yeah, it's getting pretty wild now that you see mass media people saying THE MESSAGE. I love it, the voice for common sense. Stick your brainwashing bullshit up your ass, I just want a good movie...

  • @kevinintheusa8984
    @kevinintheusa8984 27 дней назад +40

    I love the Critical Drinker and don't see him as a grifter. He is great and one of the best reviewers on the internet.

    • @whynot1548
      @whynot1548 27 дней назад

      U sound like a grifting bot urself.....
      Most people are anti woke, that doesnt mean we have to elevate technocratic narcissistic buffoons on the internet just because they're making money off our values

  • @SubZero-hs9xc
    @SubZero-hs9xc 27 дней назад +40

    It doesnt seem to me anyone is turning on him,
    Some people didnt like his fallout take but thats fine

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +8

      Just noticing more of these videos with many getting hundreds of thousands to millions of views. And hundreds of thousands of likes so it’s interesting to see that happening. I think it’s dumb though

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 27 дней назад +7

      Yeah, I don't think there even been a critic who's readers/viewers agreed with 100% of the time since taste do differ.
      But it is pretty easy to see if people are turning against him or not since he have his sub numbers on his channel, if you see a significant drop in subs people are turning against him, if not that is just Hollywood's wishful thinking. He does seem to be sitting pretty steady at 2 million subs though.

    • @Alwyn2112
      @Alwyn2112 27 дней назад +5

      If you think about it though, sometimes critics do differ from usual routes but that should be also fine. Whose to say like audiences a critic can’t think for themself?
      When Pink Floyd’s movie version of The Wall came out, most critics & even audiences were mixed on it, but Roger Ebert was the rare critic who openly praised the film. The film is now regarded as a cult classic by a larger group and it kind of puts into perspective how the critic-audience divide can still exist even if opinions shift over time.

    • @fredfredburger5150
      @fredfredburger5150 26 дней назад +2

      The way I see it if a critic always has an opinion that I agree with that's a bad critc. I want a critic (including Drinker) to not always have an opinion I agree with.

    • @loke6664
      @loke6664 26 дней назад

      @@fredfredburger5150 True, you can use a mirror if you want to see someone always agreeing with you.
      Besides, a lot of the points of a critic is that they are someone we can watch when we are considering going to watch a movie or not.
      Sure, it can be amusing to see them tearing a new one to a bad movie we already seen and thought was bad but that is not what annoys Hollywood, it is more like when Drinker recommends us to not go to the new Marvel movie and we follow his advice.

  • @craigpridemore7566
    @craigpridemore7566 27 дней назад +134

    When someone calls you out, point by point, telling you where you're wrong, you've got 2 choices: 1) argue your case (they obviously can't/won't) or 2) try to make him stop telling the truth. Hmmm, which approach has Disney taken?...

    • @jamesmarshall6619
      @jamesmarshall6619 27 дней назад +1

      I mean, several people have pointed out where he gets a lot wrong. Don't get me wrong, Disney has put out a lot of bad movies, some of Drinkers criticisms are spot on but he also tries to shoehorn a lot of what he thinks into certain narratives he thinks that are going on and in some cases, he just gets things wrong. Many people have pointed out his issues and given details and him telling the "truth" is well, not so clear cut.

    • @jayboo8495
      @jayboo8495 27 дней назад +6

      @@jamesmarshall6619 can you show me where he is wrong. just once.

    • @jamesmarshall6619
      @jamesmarshall6619 27 дней назад +1

      @@jayboo8495 he got quite a bit wrong with Glass Onion and I didn't even like the movie. It was a terrible review where he mischaracterizes, or lies, about a scene with Bautista watching his girlfriend cheat where he tries to say the director tried to basically rewrite a scene when he's talking about two different scenes but he either conflates the two on accident or completely misrepresents what happens. From my understanding someone made a video that went point by point on how much he got wrong with Glass Onion but I didn't bother to watch it because just my own watching of his review I could see he got quite a bit wrong and I'm not talking difference of opinion because I also didn't like the movie, I'm talking about just getting factual things about the movie wrong. I've seen him give some good reviews, I don't always agree with him but I've seen him capable of giving some reviews with good depth but that one was awful. There are other examples where he either purposely misses the point or he just doesn't actually get it.

    • @jayboo8495
      @jayboo8495 27 дней назад +2

      @@jamesmarshall6619 sure buddy. clout chase some more.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers 27 дней назад +2

      @@jayboo8495 You didn't give an equal exchange, but you probably don't care.

  • @hairycoo
    @hairycoo 26 дней назад +5

    That he is now being attacked only proves how powerful the Drinker has become. All hail!

  • @riddickraymond7067
    @riddickraymond7067 27 дней назад +8

    Disney has turned there bot army on the Drinker like they did with Gina carano.

    • @hansvonmannschaft9062
      @hansvonmannschaft9062 20 дней назад

      Excepting they can't fire the Drinker, nor leave him outta the huge work environment he chose to dedicate himself to.

  • @noneyabizz8337
    @noneyabizz8337 27 дней назад +102

    Like the fans, the voice of criticism is being attacked instead of introspection and accountability.
    We, the fans, want to enjoy material we grew up loving. They're not delivering anything remotely close to our beloved media.
    The fans aren't the problem, we're the dummies who buy every trinket and bobble.

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +8

      Exactly

    • @mikitz
      @mikitz 27 дней назад +3

      Consumerism at its worst.

    • @Murdock347
      @Murdock347 26 дней назад

      Nobody criticizes Critical Drinker just because he is a critic lmfao!! people criticize him because he judges things too quickly and makes false conclusions out of those assumptions(at least the vast majority)

    • @noneyabizz8337
      @noneyabizz8337 26 дней назад

      @@Murdock347 nobody?

    • @Murdock347
      @Murdock347 25 дней назад

      @@noneyabizz8337 Read my comment properly!

  • @rockytheblackdragon
    @rockytheblackdragon 27 дней назад +32

    This is insane

  • @lastmanstanding5423
    @lastmanstanding5423 7 дней назад +4

    they hate him cuz he created "THE MESSAGE" meme

  • @vmoutsop
    @vmoutsop 9 дней назад +2

    When you have studios blaming the fan base, their delusional mentality will continue and we will lose anything good that comes from entertainment.

  • @CastlesKingSide
    @CastlesKingSide 27 дней назад +67

    To quote EndimyonTv: keep voting with your wallets. In terms of gaming drama he covers stuff better than the Drinker.

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +10

      Yeah I’ve seen some of his videos he’s more of a gaming channel than the drinker right? He does a few movie stuff but more gaming?

    • @NoshikiYT
      @NoshikiYT 27 дней назад

      I’ve barely seen people talk about him recently

    • @CastlesKingSide
      @CastlesKingSide 27 дней назад +8

      @@thejessegrant precisely. But voting with your wallets applies to bad movies all the same

    • @NoshikiYT
      @NoshikiYT 27 дней назад +6

      @@CastlesKingSideI like his content and views but he turned into one of those channels that call things they don’t like “woke”
      It’s fine to have an opinion about stuff but don’t push views and agendas

    • @CastlesKingSide
      @CastlesKingSide 27 дней назад +1

      @@NoshikiYT if out of his 20 something minutes he'll maybe annoy me for 2 every now and then it's good enough for me. Never said he's perfect, but acceptably flawed

  • @carlitosbro
    @carlitosbro 27 дней назад +12

    "The Internet"? More like a bunch of grifters are attacking him as usual

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +1

      Ahah however there seems to be more videos with lots of views and lots of likes. So clearly it’s a lot of people however it’s utterly ridiculous

    • @Ricardo-cl3vs
      @Ricardo-cl3vs 22 дня назад

      @@thejessegrant
      It's just less successful people desperately trying to grab at least a tiny bit of that fame.

  • @BlueEdge047
    @BlueEdge047 27 дней назад +8

    Apparently, they have learned nothing from Paramount regarding Sonic in his first live-action design, if it were not for the outcry from the fans, Paramount, The Sonic Movie series, and the franchise as a whole would have been screwed.

  • @chikahitorochill3853
    @chikahitorochill3853 21 день назад +2

    None of his fans have turned on him. The people attacking him have never liked him. they're just more vocal now.

  • @loke6664
    @loke6664 27 дней назад +34

    This comes from Hollywood trying to blame anyone else for their movies flopping. If the audience are right, then they would be forced to admit they screwed up and and change direction but we are talking about high ego people who hate being wrong. They did "Toxic fans" until recently but that backfired pretty badly so now they are blaming "RUclips critics" instead.
    The problem is that while they probably can make life harder for critics that wont help them since people don't like trash. It is pretty hard to not talk politics when that is the only thing many movies have.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад

      Yeah, I'm a really bad, toxic person because I don't like shit movies. I need rehab...

  • @markkenny2001
    @markkenny2001 27 дней назад +42

    Will Jordan/The Critical Drinker is the Scottish equivalent of Doug Walker/Nostalgia Critic, he remembers it, so we don't have to.

    • @bartofii
      @bartofii 27 дней назад +2

      This perfectly explains the drinking...

    • @zbr76
      @zbr76 27 дней назад +6

      Now THERE'S a collab I want to see. Somehow, in some fashion, it MUST happen!

    • @markkenny2001
      @markkenny2001 27 дней назад +1

      @@zbr76 I concur.

    • @ibnkhaldoun4319
      @ibnkhaldoun4319 27 дней назад +3

      yoooo don't do him like that he's far better than nostalgia critic

    • @markkenny2001
      @markkenny2001 27 дней назад

      @@ibnkhaldoun4319 Both The Critical Drinker and Nostalgia Critic have been on RUclips for nearly 20 years.

  • @DerekGoveDesign
    @DerekGoveDesign 27 дней назад +28

    “If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target.”

  • @Mouse_Metal
    @Mouse_Metal 27 дней назад +55

    They are attacking him because he is more dangerous to the w0kecause than the obvious grifters who hate everything for the sake of hating. He doesn´t only criticize, he also recommends stuff.

    • @jamesmarshall6619
      @jamesmarshall6619 27 дней назад +3

      he has no effect on any of that. He's popular with a small subset of people but for the most part he has no effect on anything. He's often funny and entertaining but he's not close to being dangerous because no one cares what he says. If woke was as bad as people say Barbie wouldn't have been such a massive success as nothing was more woke than Barbie. Crappy movies are what people don't like, if it's good and woke they'll go watch it.

    • @Mouse_Metal
      @Mouse_Metal 27 дней назад

      @@jamesmarshall6619 Your mistake is you assume narcissists think like normal people. They don´t. They have constant need to play victim to gain power through manipulation, they lack self-reflection and camouflage their fragile ego with fake grandiose persona.
      We´re talking about people so fragile and insecure they flagged and deleted my obscure fanfic because it went against The Message. They absolutely consider Drinker a threat, he is much more influential then the first and last fanfic I have ever tried to upload online.

    • @daemonhoundofkhorne834
      @daemonhoundofkhorne834 27 дней назад +8

      @@jamesmarshall6619 Woke and good are basically contradictory terms. Also Barbie is tailored to a more accepting audience for that ideology and a bit of a one off. So much of modern entertainment has at least some hamfisted DEI stuff now its hard to avoid so some of those projects people are going to end up watching.

    • @jamesmarshall6619
      @jamesmarshall6619 27 дней назад +3

      @@daemonhoundofkhorne834 they are not contradictory terms just like conservative and good aren't contradictory. Barbie is also not a one off, the not so great "woke" Little Mermaid also made a good profit. Plus "woke" is just a word now thrown out for everything so when people say it they just change what the definition is. HBO's Watchmen was called woke and after a slow start took off and while it had plenty of criticisms of some conservative ideas, it also was critical of progressive ideas but was called "woke" so that's why the use of the term when people try to discredit something is usually dumb. They point to failures, which there are a lot, and ignore the successes which are in television and movies. "Woke" movies and television shows are every bit as successful as "traditional" or "conservative" ones in that, most fail, a few are highly successful, a lot is mediocre.

    • @daemonhoundofkhorne834
      @daemonhoundofkhorne834 27 дней назад +6

      @@jamesmarshall6619 You used the term woke before I did so I assumed we were both coming at the word from the same place, but if I must clarify further I'm talking about hamfisted intersectionality and in your face progressiveness that is common through a lot of modern entertainment. The opposite of woke also isn't conservative I suppose you could argue traditional, but I generally just think of entertainment that doesn't send a strong political message or rub the viewer's nose in it. Somewhat apolitical. I am generally against entertainment that would hit me over the head with conservative themes as well, but we both know that's far less common unless I subscribe to the Daily Wire or something.
      You also picked two really bad examples of successful woke entertainment. The Little Mermaid while not considered a complete flop, was considered a disappointment by Disney and ya that HBO Watchmen show wasn't exactly successful other than some award nominations that the general public couldn't care less about. In my opinion that show was awful, but that's neither here nor there. A better option I would have picked is the movie Prey which I thought was pretty heavy handed in its political posturing, but was at least a half decent movie. Still kind of a 6/10 for me though to be honest and that's about the best "woke" thing I can think of.
      Your final point though about "woke" movies and tv shows being as successful as traditional ones is extremely dubious. As you stated before the word "woke" is often used in an ambiguous fashion and from what I've seen most entertainment with heavy handed political themes that I personally would consider "woke" tend to fail.
      You can get very lost in the weeds with this though as there is entertainment I would say has woke elements, but the sum of its parts isn't woke which makes it harder to classify.

  • @seanmillette4323
    @seanmillette4323 26 дней назад +5

    Funny that they are trying to accuse The Drinker of carrying "A mEsSaGe". It's nice to know that he is pushing all of the right buttons though.

  • @theutilizer
    @theutilizer 25 дней назад +3

    "A few random wacko's, and some corporate shills" are turning on the drinker.
    Definitely not the internet.

  • @andrewhicks982
    @andrewhicks982 7 дней назад +4

    The millions of views per vid would say otherwise

  • @MA_KA_PA_TIE
    @MA_KA_PA_TIE 27 дней назад +89

    Drinker is the most important critic around

    • @trollking6315
      @trollking6315 27 дней назад +1

      chud

    • @whynot1548
      @whynot1548 27 дней назад +7

      No he's not. YOU are the best Critic in ur own life in what u consume.
      Stop letting narcissists on a screen define ur reality, just because they "vocally" adhere to some of ur values

    • @Dartanyoogles
      @Dartanyoogles 26 дней назад

      ​@@whynot1548Brilliantly said!

    • @akatsukicloak
      @akatsukicloak 26 дней назад +3

      Only if you like listening to others what to think, and going by a grifter's metric that's not very high standard.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 25 дней назад +2

      @@whynot1548 naah.

  • @purefoldnz3070
    @purefoldnz3070 26 дней назад +4

    Sometimes Drinker has good take but just as often he has a bad take on things.

  • @thedealmama3070
    @thedealmama3070 27 дней назад +11

    The Critical Drinker is not just political if he was he would have a much smaller platform. He’s just a voice for the fans. And a very good and honest one.

  • @Recapsulate
    @Recapsulate 27 дней назад +17

    Drinker is going to get more hated the more popular he gets. The dude just hit 2 million subs on his main channel and he’s making a lot of money from super chats in a community that pays big money to hear their super chats read live on RUclips.
    This tends to make people that don’t agree with him jealous and grifter is the first thing those type of haters can think to say.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад +3

      He's only getting hated by people he doesn't give a fuck about. That's the point, he doesn't live in their echo chambers where they all have to agree with each other. Drinker, and growing Legions of people like him, are free to express their (common sense) opinions.

  • @PeterLambert2211
    @PeterLambert2211 27 дней назад +14

    Studio heads are trying to astroturf a dog pile on critical drinker (and other honest critics) because they think the critics are to blame for their terrible movies losing money. Pathetic.

  • @skaidonC
    @skaidonC 27 дней назад +51

    Very similar to the recent drama with Hello Future Me. (see Random Film Talk's response video for details)
    Essentially: left-leaning content creator accuses right-leaning content creator(s) (or perceived as being right-leaning) of:
    A: Using their film criticism as a Trojan Horse for conservative politics
    B: Being monetarily influenced to do A
    Never mind that these right-leaning content creators are criticizing a multinational, multibillion dollar corporate oligopoly. whereas these left leaning content creators are defending said corporation(s)...for free!
    The sheer double standards and hypocrisy would be shocking if it wasn't so predictable.
    Edit: For why Disney's behaviour is bad for the long-term health of the company, I highly recommend "Disney has Brand Cancer" by Greg Owen.

    • @caedrewan
      @caedrewan 27 дней назад +4

      love your comment (I like Greg Owen's videos too)
      Please refer to my comment (somewhere) about the idea that these critics get their funding from government grants - it's just my idea, but living in Canada, I know a number of artists and they always get a good chunk of change from government arts programs.
      So, do they defend corporations for free? Yes and No -> I think they FEEL like they're defending them for free, while getting gov't support

    • @skaidonC
      @skaidonC 27 дней назад

      @@caedrewan There's something in that.
      Or, to mention HFM again - he said in his (first) Rings of Power review he was approached by amazon to review RoP, and he said yes....on the condition he would be able to say what he really thought of it....and they ghosted him.
      Evidence to support anything Eric July has said about "shills".
      Or to phrase it another way:
      Critic = someone who criticises (contains both positive feedback and constructive criticism)
      If you call yourself a "critic" but only ever praise shows you're paid to, you're really just a "for hire" marketing consultant.

  • @samryan180
    @samryan180 27 дней назад +16

    Its paid agitators. As someone that has been paid money to protest that he doesn't care about (I did it in college a lot), people do it. I can't see why it wouldn't expand to groups like Sweet Baby Inc doing the same thing.

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +1

      Imagine that’s what was happening! That would be crazy

  • @AlexAppleby
    @AlexAppleby 27 дней назад +13

    The Drinker is honestly a breath of fresh air in the movie criticism scene and I trust him to give an honest opinion of when either a movie or show comes out. Do I agree with everything he says? No, but I trust him, which is more than can be said for other critics out there.

  • @ricardoallende2597
    @ricardoallende2597 18 дней назад +1

    It’s a small group of whiny trolls who attack the Drinker and Nerdrotic. Should be ignored.

  • @johndoe8785
    @johndoe8785 27 дней назад +39

    Yeh I don't watch a movie or play a game unless Drinker and Nerdrotic give it a thumbs up. I've literally saved thousands of dollars over the past 10 years because of them.

    • @mybrotheristheman
      @mybrotheristheman 27 дней назад +4

      Same.

    • @Uzarran
      @Uzarran 27 дней назад +4

      I've spent more money in theaters over the last six months than I have the last ten years, all because of Drinker's recommendations.
      No regrets!

    • @cathair-moustache
      @cathair-moustache 27 дней назад +8

      Damn, imagine needing someone to tell you want to watch.

    • @johndoe8785
      @johndoe8785 27 дней назад

      @@cathair-moustache Can't afford to waste my hard earned straight white male money on woke 💩. 👌

    • @markwilson4686
      @markwilson4686 27 дней назад +7

      Not saying these two don't have good critics, but you shouldn't let them dictate what media you will enjoy or not, that's just being a sheep. If you're not sure if you would enjoy a movie or game and don't want to spend the cash just pirate it and experience it for yourself. You're not Drinker or Nerdrotic so your opinion and taste isn't always going to line up.

  • @user-uy5py5ih2t
    @user-uy5py5ih2t 21 день назад +6

    Critical drinker was funny but after watching him for a while it’s just him complaining about literally EVERYTHING. Especially when he does a group stream/video with Nerdrotic and that group. When they’re together it is absolutely trash and just a giant cry session.

    • @cainabel615
      @cainabel615 13 дней назад +1

      But if everything is garbage, is he wrong?

    • @user-uy5py5ih2t
      @user-uy5py5ih2t 6 дней назад +1

      @@cainabel615 except everything isn’t garbage so yes he’s wrong.

    • @cainabel615
      @cainabel615 6 дней назад

      @@user-uy5py5ih2t yeah but the stuff he criticizes is garbage.

    • @user-uy5py5ih2t
      @user-uy5py5ih2t 5 дней назад

      @@cainabel615 not all of it. He’s riding the “hate on everything” wave that’s going around RUclips especially on the movie scene. He nitpicks a lot and it comes off as just bitching about everything after a while.

    • @cainabel615
      @cainabel615 5 дней назад

      @@user-uy5py5ih2t hes still not wrong and it’s up to the viewers to go and watch the movies if he so chooses. It’s not up to critics, whoever they are, to make people see movies. It’s up to movies to make movies people want to watch while making a profit. Critical Drinker actually said he liked Furiosa, but he said it was a bait and switch because there’s no Mad Max, but as a stand-alone movie it was fine. A critic’s job is to nitpick. But most of what’s produced today is garbage. That’s just my opinion. Now, maybe you like what’s being produced, and that’s ok. To each their own. I just find critical drinker and others like him have my particular taste in movies. Not everything is for everyone and I’m ok with that. But blaming critics and fans for poor box office receipts is lazy and stupid.

  • @rmooreg
    @rmooreg 7 дней назад +1

    To hell with internet trolls, the Drinker says it straight!
    That' all I got... go away now

  • @aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930
    @aburninglandfillofbadmovie2930 13 дней назад +1

    The Visual Media Critic, Social Critic, Archeologist, Historian, Satirist, and Philosopher have 1 big thing in common; they are obligated to tell the truth, even if it hurts your feelings.

  • @rocksreviewsreactions337
    @rocksreviewsreactions337 26 дней назад +7

    The Drinker has literally never sold any product??? These people attacking him are insane.😑

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan 26 дней назад +3

      Except his books. And his shirts. And his plushes...

    • @Stathio
      @Stathio 26 дней назад +2

      And his channel...

    • @rocksreviewsreactions337
      @rocksreviewsreactions337 25 дней назад

      Go find one video in the last few weeks, I haven't seen him promote any of his products hardly at all.

    • @MagcargoMan
      @MagcargoMan 25 дней назад +1

      @@rocksreviewsreactions337 Look at these shifted goalposts. Guess you don't know what "literally never" means.

    • @rocksreviewsreactions337
      @rocksreviewsreactions337 25 дней назад

      @@MagcargoMan
      He still "Literally never" has done that. You guys still haven't provided any video that proves he did.

  • @unluckythirteen7538
    @unluckythirteen7538 27 дней назад +34

    Online Critiques are doing the work that professional review platforms like IGN or Rotten Tomatoes were supposed to do. Instead of framing them, studios should listen to critiques in a healthy way 😗✊🏻

    • @sumnahlennon5449
      @sumnahlennon5449 27 дней назад +2

      And now his fans are saying Critical Drinker failed. This is the audience he created. People like you that cant separate the concept of OPINION and now Critical Drinker is destroyed. For havinh wrong opinions

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up 27 дней назад +8

      @@sumnahlennon5449 What fans? I haven't seen any fans say that stuff, only lefties who already hate him, so nothing weird or new really.

    • @GreyhawkTheAngry
      @GreyhawkTheAngry 27 дней назад +2

      @@sumnahlennon5449 WHERE? Where are his fans saying that?! Put up or shut up.

  • @pittland44
    @pittland44 13 дней назад +1

    People say the Drinker is Toxic, and I'm like yeah, his blood alcohol level is written in scientific notation.

  • @user-uy5py5ih2t
    @user-uy5py5ih2t 21 день назад +1

    Comparing what Tarantino is saying versus what Drinker is saying is hilarious. They’re saying two completely different things and Quentin is much more adult about it versus drinker sounds like a child.

  • @johnleonard9102
    @johnleonard9102 27 дней назад +3

    He typically has pretty good takes on movies and TV shows, but if you give him anything related to video games like God of War Ragnarok or The Fallout TV show, the dude is completely off the mark.

  • @diviningdragon
    @diviningdragon 27 дней назад +28

    This is an accurate evaluation of why The Critical Drinker and similar RUclipsrs succeed--and why activists want to marginalize them. The truth 'resonates' while spin 'alienates.' Now The Critical Drinker is recognized as a 'threat' that must be dealt with. It makes sense that Disney and similar grifters are threatened by legitimate analysis and the consequences of reality. And it is all the more justified why a discerning audience should concern themselves with supporting The Critical Drinker to keep the truth flowing...

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад +1

      Well, that's the beauty of RUclips, they can't cancel him, or me, or others like us. Everyone is free to express their opinions. Grifting implies either going with the flow or going directly against it for favour. Drinker, and certainly me don't express our opinions for favour, we express them because that's honestly how we feel. If anyone doesn't like it, that's fine, we welcome civil discourse on any issue.

  • @davidsaurine8108
    @davidsaurine8108 7 дней назад +1

    They've been trying for years to crush the Drinker but he just gets more popular 😂

  • @ossihurme7572
    @ossihurme7572 5 дней назад +1

    "Destroy Sony" yeah sure, the company is no more.

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 27 дней назад +5

    I don’t like Nerdrotic because he is too angry and too much of his own political bias shows in his videos. Too much like a nerd version of Ben Sharpio or Steve Crowder.

  • @zezeti2246
    @zezeti2246 27 дней назад +20

    Millions?! A lot these woke companies lose billions😂

  • @decker528
    @decker528 27 дней назад +1

    He's never complained about diversity in a show until it's obvious it either completely doesn't fit in with the story being told or it's obviously just there so some people can pay themselves on the back

  • @VeritasOmniaVincit176
    @VeritasOmniaVincit176 25 дней назад +2

    5:14 shogun was 98% Japanese actors. That’s the opposite of “diverse”, unless you define the word as “non-white” (which it is when it comes to Hollywood).

  • @smackfanxion
    @smackfanxion 26 дней назад +3

    We are so cool. All of us sitting around without our pants playing with each others swords. I love hanging out with other unwashed, bonding over how I totally did watch and understood some high level stuff.... while not engaging with literally any of it. Keep up the good fart.

  • @jamesjacobs4209
    @jamesjacobs4209 26 дней назад +2

    Wouldn't surprise me if these people were actually bots with Disney management behind this crap!

  • @mbob4337
    @mbob4337 27 дней назад +1

    What does politics have to do with the writers for She-Hulk intentionally not write the character correctly, that's in the comics. Virtually nothing was done right.

  • @Xiy114
    @Xiy114 26 дней назад +2

    People dont like truth, responsibility and having to think or sometimes feel uncomfortable

  • @slicedtopieces
    @slicedtopieces 27 дней назад +26

    The Critical Drinker has probably found himself in the sights of the corporates. He's big enough (also given recent media appearances) that he's likely gotten their attention.

    • @sianais
      @sianais 27 дней назад +2

      The underhanded ploys for his destruction has begun.

    • @Stathio
      @Stathio 26 дней назад +2

      Everything's a conspiracy to you people, isn't it? Nothing's just the consequences of your actions. Zero responsibility, always.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 24 дня назад

      I think he gives zero fucks. I wouldn't care if I was him.

    • @slicedtopieces
      @slicedtopieces 24 дня назад

      @@aldunlop4622 I hope so. I just know that once you start interfering with corporate bottom lines, the bot armies come out to play.

  • @Zed-fq3lj
    @Zed-fq3lj 27 дней назад +3

    Critical Drinker is cool and mostly an objective voice of sanity in an insane world. He is limited in his knowledge about movies in general, but has a sharp observation and is both entertaining and eloquent.

  • @vodamiinurl1337
    @vodamiinurl1337 26 дней назад +1

    So basically, they're fighting him because he's too big for their comfort?

  • @TheRelaxingRide
    @TheRelaxingRide 22 дня назад +1

    it's the studio internal politics that are toxic, not the fans. always has been.

  • @marksecker6606
    @marksecker6606 27 дней назад +6

    Several billions of gallons of booze have failed to destroy the Drinker.
    What makes you think you could do to do any better?

  • @dan8910100
    @dan8910100 27 дней назад +4

    Drinker 2024!

  • @voorheesjason3161
    @voorheesjason3161 8 дней назад +1

    No one has turned on CD ... he's as big as ever 😬👍🏻

  • @juanluisgomezregalado6434
    @juanluisgomezregalado6434 11 дней назад +1

    No one is turning on him, just idiots.

  • @chimochills
    @chimochills 27 дней назад +10

    All these "critics" bashing him have barely even listened to him outside of clips.
    The same thing happens to people like Rogan. You hit critical mass and this seems to just come with the territory.

  • @Pendletones77
    @Pendletones77 27 дней назад +9

    They attack him because he speaks the truth and in a very effective communicator

    • @Murdock347
      @Murdock347 26 дней назад +1

      Yeah! judging things and making false conclusions before the product is even released, that sounds so truthful

    • @Pendletones77
      @Pendletones77 26 дней назад

      @@Murdock347 when did he do that?

    • @Murdock347
      @Murdock347 26 дней назад +1

      @@Pendletones77 For the movie Prey! before the movie released dude was saying propaganda on how it is another girl power movie and is going to bomb, but surprise surprise! Prey actually was pretty well received

    • @Pendletones77
      @Pendletones77 26 дней назад

      @@Murdock347 he did a trailer review first, but then he did a review of the movie saying it was better than he expected. Nothing dishonest about that.

    • @Murdock347
      @Murdock347 22 дня назад

      @@Pendletones77 Again the problem is with the sheer confidence he has in his assumptions. He blindly assumes stuff before it was released, before Prey was even released dude was so overconfident in his predictions which leads to false propaganda being spread, and when Prey was actually good he acts like he never said anything bad prior

  • @Kesyabasturd
    @Kesyabasturd 27 дней назад +2

    I find his takes inconsistent, but attacking him as a person is just cringe.

  • @bmardiney
    @bmardiney 25 дней назад +1

    In order to call someone a grifter and have it stick, you need evidence of some kind that he doesn't believe what he says. We are all waiting for that evidence.

  • @PunksterOS
    @PunksterOS 27 дней назад +4

    I appreciate your defence of him, I saw that video in my feed last week and clicked on it against my better judgement, I didn't watch for long because it was disingenuous from the the off, even the title alone, as if he is conservative or not is even relevant, when it's not. I'm not Conservative and I agree with a lot of his observations in current TV & film.
    That video exists solely to accuse the creator and his audience of doing the very thing they, themselves are doing. It is projection, it's gate-keeping, it is confirmation bias and worst of all it misrepresents an entire group of people just to convince themselves that they're the good guys, other side bad, drawing a line where it does not need to be.
    Even when I agree with 'the message' if it is there just so it's there, that does not make the film or show suddenly great, that is ridiculous & very narrow-minded. That's my issue most of the time, is that it's not in the work organically, it's there to act as a shield against valid criticism and to get people like José to champion it. I don't see why pointing these obvious studio manipulations out is in anyway a bad thing.
    This was a great video, you pointed out things I never considered. Good job.
    Anyway, that's all I've got for the day, go... erm... thanks for reading.

  • @curtismcdonald6838
    @curtismcdonald6838 27 дней назад +4

    The Drinker is the shit! Anyone who downplays his videos just needs a target to try to tear down. Look elsewhere. As for this channel and myself, we hit the subscribe button all day for the Drinker.

  • @gnarwhal7562
    @gnarwhal7562 23 дня назад +1

    The grifter argument falls apart when you bring up the fact that he launched merch themed after his dog last year to raise money for donating to his local Greyhound shelter. The man clearly practices what he preaches

  • @billkrussick6477
    @billkrussick6477 15 дней назад +1

    truth hurts, so they have to try and tear the drinker down for speaking it.

  • @edwardreed67
    @edwardreed67 27 дней назад +6

    To say a fandom doesn’t have a voice without CD or Nerdrotic is the most patronising shit I’ve ever heard 💀

    • @thejessegrant
      @thejessegrant  27 дней назад +1

      I never said it doesn’t have a voice I said these big creators amplify the voice

    • @edwardreed67
      @edwardreed67 27 дней назад +3

      @@thejessegrant ...Yeah, they kinda don't though. The fandom already had a big voice, they just amplify a particular KIND of voice within fandom, but as a Doctor Who fan, I know loads of people and creators who don't feel represented by either CD or Gary, with that voice in the first place not really tackling the true issues of the show outside of Gary's "RIP Doctor Who" whatever thats supposed to do. They either get their facts wrong, are too vague to take seriously, or don't even really interact with the fandom in the first place (unless theres something negative to talk about). i'd love to hear Gary's thoughts on Classic Who or the comics, or an analysis of Genesis of the Daleks with Critical, but its just not there. They don't amplify fan voice, they pander to it.

  • @ifeanyiazuh9373
    @ifeanyiazuh9373 27 дней назад +6

    So this is the method they're using against him. Those who know know

  • @ramirogarcia1967
    @ramirogarcia1967 23 дня назад +1

    TCD is above else an extremely educated, wise and profoundly effective observer of cultural trends. Its nice to see that such people can still exist.

  • @sole__doubt
    @sole__doubt 7 дней назад +1

    Because he is watering his style down for mainstream appeal. Thats the opposite of why we liked his content in the first place.