Recently just restarted SO1 I had Erys in my group and loved her but sacrificing Mavelle was tragic so I’m going to keep Mavelle on my second playthrough. Ashlay kept dying on my first playthrough even at high levels so I’m definitely not going to utilize him this second playthrough and I may skip out on ioshua.
I'm currently playing this game and had to check if you had made a tier list of this already. Looking forward to a Star Ocean 2 tier list some point in the future. Love your content man.
They did the mages so dirty in the first SO games. Thankfully the later games would rectify this somewhat. Anway, you're right about most of this, they did a very poor job at balancing Ronyx with the main 4 characters. Seriously, his bows don't even increase his MAG stat! Also, have you play the Cave of the 7 Stars? That dungeon will test your patience with it's constant ambushes, enemies stunlocking you from afar, and swarming your healers. Lastly, it's See-us, not Caius.
Haha thank you. Yeah about the mages, I don’t think Star Ocean ever really corrects this. Star Ocean 4 and 6 has busted physical attackers and the mages are meh.
@@locloudanerpg mages are more used for interrupting enemies so your physical attacks can get in hits between their blocking. it's nice in higher difficulty in So2 when enemies will block everything if you don't have enough hit.
About that for Universe mode Celine Noel Leon are still PURE CRAP and Claude/Dias get the Marvel Sword 100% hit rate + Chisato for her 100% hit weapon the 4th slot is to Bloody armor armor Claude Dias Chisato and OPERA immediately at lv 100 on DISC 2 NEVER remove it and have healing star at 999 uses Immediately OR MAX skill lv for Healing Star via BP spend in the upcoming PS4 PS5 Switch remake of it.
My team is Roddick, Ilia, Phia, Erys. Ilia and Phia are so fun to play as with their combos/aerial arts. I don't really care for Mavelle because she has equipment that usually has an element associated with it leading to healing the enemy and her MP drains quickly so I find myself using her poor short range regular attack.
IMHO Phia/Erys/T'nique/Welch/Cyuss/ioshua are PURE CRAP and are NEVER in my party NEVER LOSE Mavelle for Erys since Erys is PURE CRAP and Marvelle IS worth keeping.
I prefer reuniting the siblings, thus I like Erys over Marvell. I also don't mind having two spell casters that can heal and buff the party. Roddrick and Ilia is more than enough for most fights.
Well...after SO2R if they were to remake 1 again with the same artwork and combat changes, specifically removing spell pause, a party with 2 mages, especially Erys, would likely beat out the 3 phys plus 1 healer parties that are currently the most optimal way to play as we'd be able to throw screen wide nukes into the mix.
@@veghesther3204 And that is your opinion, I'm not saying she is better than Marvelle, nor am I saying everyone should have her in party. Just the fact that I prefer her over Marvelle. I normally control her anyways as Erys's AI sucks.
I recently started star ocean and i have most of the good characters i have millie and mavale as well as Joshua who i think is a pretty good unit aside from getting killed i also have cyuss whos kinda useful and i have ryox who i just now noticing how aragant he can be as a offensive mage tho when stacked with Joshua both work in tandom together so they're not all bad tho i have yet to give mavale a shot i currently trying to beat the trail chamber but im also grinding lv so i can get their skills up
Pericci with 2 star guards, Kitty Armor, Dragon Claw, Kitty Hairband, and Elven Sneakers pretty much can't be damaged. Eat a Compress of Veda at the start of a battle and she's the fastest thing alive. Close the gap to Gabriella and watch the kitty block every damn thing Gabby does. Then the Star Guard shrapnel gets in Gab's eyes and your crew moves in and clubs her. No status resistance needed.
And if you can't wait til you get the Elven Sneakers, you can have one of the ladies craft some Glass Slippers from a Crystal. You can get Crystals from green fellworm monsters near Tatroi.
Is there a consistent way to block in this game? Or is it random? Cause I’ve been playing on and off for over a year now, and I still don’t get blocking.
Fantastic list.. First star ocean is a weird beast. I think it got a few REALLY strong. And the rest imo or VERY LOW. To me Tinek,Phia and Peressie are the mid fighters that should never be considered. Ashley and Welch are horrible. The mages are imo at best supporters. And their damage potential is just to low. AND HOW DID THEY MESS UP THEIR MAIN BLACK MAGE. we are 3 remakes in atnd they actively makes him the worse party member. It's like a joke but no one is laughing at the crippled bowman. However the very best are godly. . I tend to kick Ratix the first chance I get due to his brokeness and add Cius as my main fighter. That said Mavenke is simply a force of nature. Absolute busted. Incredible list :(
I like a balanced party by the end game, so Roddick & Cyuss were never on the same team once I had 8 party members. Serve a similar function, though still have cool unique setups to separate them. Roddick, Millie, Ilia, Ronyx. Cyuss, Phia, Pericci, Iohsua. (Would drop Pericci for Mavelle next playthrough, easily.)
Mavelle, Illia, Millie, and Roddick was my dream team on my last play through. I love Tri-Ace’s commitment to make the stronger party members non-male.
Chisato in Star Ocean 2 was an absolute beast. Her very first attack, Twister/Roaring Cartwheel is one of the best multi-hit and stunlock attacks there is, and it's ridiculously cheap. Just spam it and win.
Personally, I think Pericci is very underrated here. You only really seem to care about damage but Pericci is a godly tank that does reasonable damage AND is required to get the only mount in the game. I feel like she's one of those characters you pretty much always want if you have room to recruit her. Not to mention she can easily solo the game when properly equipped. She's that damn good.
For solo in this game ONLY do that with Roddick Marvelle ilia or Ashley only I still prefer Roddick since NOT only can you still get the MARVEL Sword before the Pirates hideout raid in this one it still gives out the same NEVER miss stat that 2nd story/evolution has for that weapon. On a SOLO run at 100% PHYSICAL hit rate is a must and ONLY Roddick can equip it.
T'nique with spinning staff, ring of might and berserker ring. Literally just tore though the game and post game controlling him in preparation for SO2's remake. He also has really high guts so he can stunlock enemies endlessly. He's really underrated imo.
About that Ashton Precis Celine Noel Leon are still pure CRAP and are NEVER in my party Welch remakes only still SUCKS as well and Second Story R WILL have her playable as well.
hp is such a viable stat, everyone at 9999 but really is this the only game where the main character is at the top. i'd still put hit at number 1 stat if needed.
I recall Cyuss having a weapon that increased his ATK per hit, if he himself wasn't hit. Buffing that one stat to increase his movement speed and equipping the ring to attach more battle skills made him an absolute monster. Enjoy his character too much to skip him, so I don't mind Roddick staying decent. Think I found a way to make Ronyx work, though bow not scaling with magic took alot of experimenting.
Cyuss is still pure CRAP only Marvelle Pericci and Ashlay are the only optional party members worth it the REST are PURE CRAP so Cyuss/ioshua/T'nique/Phia/Welch/Erys all SUCK and are NEVER in my party ever.
@@veghesther3204 He's definitely not. Cyuss is a stun lock monster with Double Slash & Godspeed levelled. As with the first 3 Star Oceans; if you approach the character with patience and love, you will discover they are secretly godlike with the right setup. Bless Adray. They don't know. ( ;T ~ T)
@@ManOfLegs He bashes all of the mages of the first two Star Oceans. He basically blasted me for daring to say I rather reunite the siblings instead of keeping Marvelle. I don't like it when people try to force their own opinions on others as if they are gospel. The only character that I know sucks and I wish I never recruited is Welch in the two PSP games, I will never recruit Welch in any playthrough that she is an active party member, now in SO3 where she is only a crafter that's fine.
I’m stuck at the cave of the seven stars I can’t find away to beat resphina and the bandit king I only have rod dick Rony Millie Cyrus and ILLIA Iosua and Mavelle on my team is that enough to beat her? Can anyone give a hint please thanks you?
Right. Somehow I'm at a point the iInner PUrgatorium is insanely hard and I missed Ioshua and Mavelle. I Might go back to get Tinique and Welch but I sort of just want to finish it off before Second.
It should be but since Celine is still PURE CRAP in its demo she Ashton Precis Noel Leon Welch will likely STILL suck and will still never be in my party for SO2 R ever either.
I feel like going worst to best is actually way worse than best to worst, since for the bad characters you have to compare them to the good characters which you have not covered yet but for the good characters explaining why they are good doesn't really require the context of the bad characters.
I believe so since she didn't HAVE that crappy worthless 1 accessory slot used but since she ONLY has 1 usable slot on the PSP/R version she totally sucks because of that.
Plus, if you control Erys, she isn't throwing spells when not needed. I don't get the love of Marvelle. Star Ocean really dropped the ball with Mage appreciation.
The game is voice acted in English my guy. There’s no reason to get Cyuss’s name wrong. It’s pronounced see-yus. They even say his name several times at the beginning of the game.
Man did you just straight up not play the game at all? You're pronouncing 2 names wrong. Joshua is pronounced "Yohshua" (he says it right away) and the Cyuss is pronounced "Seeyus" not "Kaiyus"
Not me laughing my ass off at Veghesther still keeping up his schtick for decades to this day
Great tier list, it’s always a treat to see
It's honestly insane that Vegh is still around XD I remember him on several boards on gamefaqs ages ago
Recently just restarted SO1 I had Erys in my group and loved her but sacrificing Mavelle was tragic so I’m going to keep Mavelle on my second playthrough. Ashlay kept dying on my first playthrough even at high levels so I’m definitely not going to utilize him this second playthrough and I may skip out on ioshua.
I'm currently playing this game and had to check if you had made a tier list of this already. Looking forward to a Star Ocean 2 tier list some point in the future. Love your content man.
Thanks for the support! Should be up soon.
@@locloudanerpg Christmas came early.
They did the mages so dirty in the first SO games. Thankfully the later games would rectify this somewhat. Anway, you're right about most of this, they did a very poor job at balancing Ronyx with the main 4 characters. Seriously, his bows don't even increase his MAG stat! Also, have you play the Cave of the 7 Stars? That dungeon will test your patience with it's constant ambushes, enemies stunlocking you from afar, and swarming your healers. Lastly, it's See-us, not Caius.
Haha thank you. Yeah about the mages, I don’t think Star Ocean ever really corrects this. Star Ocean 4 and 6 has busted physical attackers and the mages are meh.
@@locloudanerpg mages are more used for interrupting enemies so your physical attacks can get in hits between their blocking. it's nice in higher difficulty in So2 when enemies will block everything if you don't have enough hit.
About that for Universe mode Celine Noel Leon are still PURE CRAP and Claude/Dias get the Marvel Sword 100% hit rate + Chisato for her 100% hit weapon the 4th slot is to Bloody armor armor Claude Dias Chisato and OPERA immediately at lv 100 on DISC 2 NEVER remove it and have healing star at 999 uses Immediately OR MAX skill lv for Healing Star via BP spend in the upcoming PS4 PS5 Switch remake of it.
@@locloudanerpg Yeah, magic was somewhat decent in SO5, but yet again, physical domination, lol.
My team is Roddick, Ilia, Phia, Erys. Ilia and Phia are so fun to play as with their combos/aerial arts. I don't really care for Mavelle because she has equipment that usually has an element associated with it leading to healing the enemy and her MP drains quickly so I find myself using her poor short range regular attack.
IMHO Phia/Erys/T'nique/Welch/Cyuss/ioshua are PURE CRAP and are NEVER in my party NEVER LOSE Mavelle for Erys since Erys is PURE CRAP and Marvelle IS worth keeping.
Yep, my exact party, and before I get Erys I use Ioshua. It's an easy game you don't need the best party, you need party that you like.
Erys and ioshua are PURE CRAP and are never in my party ever.
@@veghesther3204 I see why they banned you from online forums.
I prefer reuniting the siblings, thus I like Erys over Marvell. I also don't mind having two spell casters that can heal and buff the party. Roddrick and Ilia is more than enough for most fights.
Erys is PURE CRAP I'd rather KEEP my lv 130+ Marvelle IN the party.
Well...after SO2R if they were to remake 1 again with the same artwork and combat changes, specifically removing spell pause, a party with 2 mages, especially Erys, would likely beat out the 3 phys plus 1 healer parties that are currently the most optimal way to play as we'd be able to throw screen wide nukes into the mix.
@@veghesther3204 And that is your opinion, I'm not saying she is better than Marvelle, nor am I saying everyone should have her in party. Just the fact that I prefer her over Marvelle. I normally control her anyways as Erys's AI sucks.
@@ifrit1937 Same.
Star Ocean til the end of time is by far my favourite Star Ocean game
Good choice. Good taste.
I recently started star ocean and i have most of the good characters i have millie and mavale as well as Joshua who i think is a pretty good unit aside from getting killed i also have cyuss whos kinda useful and i have ryox who i just now noticing how aragant he can be as a offensive mage tho when stacked with Joshua both work in tandom together so they're not all bad tho i have yet to give mavale a shot i currently trying to beat the trail chamber but im also grinding lv so i can get their skills up
Pericci with 2 star guards, Kitty Armor, Dragon Claw, Kitty Hairband, and Elven Sneakers pretty much can't be damaged. Eat a Compress of Veda at the start of a battle and she's the fastest thing alive. Close the gap to Gabriella and watch the kitty block every damn thing Gabby does. Then the Star Guard shrapnel gets in Gab's eyes and your crew moves in and clubs her. No status resistance needed.
And if you can't wait til you get the Elven Sneakers, you can have one of the ladies craft some Glass Slippers from a Crystal. You can get Crystals from green fellworm monsters near Tatroi.
Is there a consistent way to block in this game? Or is it random? Cause I’ve been playing on and off for over a year now, and I still don’t get blocking.
Fantastic list..
First star ocean is a weird beast. I think it got a few REALLY strong. And the rest imo or VERY LOW.
To me Tinek,Phia and Peressie are the mid fighters that should never be considered.
Ashley and Welch are horrible.
The mages are imo at best supporters. And their damage potential is just to low.
AND HOW DID THEY MESS UP THEIR MAIN BLACK MAGE. we are 3 remakes in atnd they actively makes him the worse party member.
It's like a joke but no one is laughing at the crippled bowman.
However the very best are godly. .
I tend to kick Ratix the first chance I get due to his brokeness and add Cius as my main fighter.
That said Mavenke is simply a force of nature. Absolute busted.
Incredible list :(
I like a balanced party by the end game, so Roddick & Cyuss were never on the same team once I had 8 party members.
Serve a similar function, though still have cool unique setups to separate them.
Roddick, Millie, Ilia, Ronyx.
Cyuss, Phia, Pericci, Iohsua. (Would drop Pericci for Mavelle next playthrough, easily.)
Mavelle, Illia, Millie, and Roddick was my dream team on my last play through. I love Tri-Ace’s commitment to make the stronger party members non-male.
Chisato in Star Ocean 2 was an absolute beast. Her very first attack, Twister/Roaring Cartwheel is one of the best multi-hit and stunlock attacks there is, and it's ridiculously cheap. Just spam it and win.
The tails ... Are do cute~ i totally went for rodick, ilia, erys and ronix though~
Sure not the best fmg but he's fast at using that firnd thingy lol~
Personally, I think Pericci is very underrated here. You only really seem to care about damage but Pericci is a godly tank that does reasonable damage AND is required to get the only mount in the game. I feel like she's one of those characters you pretty much always want if you have room to recruit her. Not to mention she can easily solo the game when properly equipped. She's that damn good.
My Team was:roddick,Millie,Ilia, pericci,Caius, Melville, the Kenny Dude and Joshua
I wish First Departure R could be the same like Second Story R but it was not made by the same company since Gemdrops made Second Story R. Sad :(
Solo runs are a lot of fun. Cyrus is the OG chad of JRPG's. And I think you need to make an SO babe list after second story R releases.
I think you’re right. SO waifu list is needed in the world.
For solo in this game ONLY do that with Roddick Marvelle ilia or Ashley only I still prefer Roddick since NOT only can you still get the MARVEL Sword before the Pirates hideout raid in this one it still gives out the same NEVER miss stat that 2nd story/evolution has for that weapon.
On a SOLO run at 100% PHYSICAL hit rate is a must and ONLY Roddick can equip it.
Angel wing Erys BEST POWER MAGIC USER. MUCH NEED. Male wings best healer. I forgot but both needed to win with less struggle
T'nique with spinning staff, ring of might and berserker ring. Literally just tore though the game and post game controlling him in preparation for SO2's remake.
He also has really high guts so he can stunlock enemies endlessly.
He's really underrated imo.
Locloudane will you make a tales of xillia tier list
@@user-ep6un5to1s I have it on my list. People hate my takes on Tales though, so I’ve been taking my time.
How did they get away with putting Ranma Saotome in this game?
I missed Mavelle somehow. I'm just gonna finish with Millie, Cyrus, Roddick and Ilia party.
You missed Mavelle because you have Cyuss without Ioshua.
Great vid, can you do second story next?
Probably not next but it’s in the works!
About that Ashton Precis Celine Noel Leon are still pure CRAP and are NEVER in my party Welch remakes only still SUCKS as well and Second Story R WILL have her playable as well.
hp is such a viable stat, everyone at 9999 but really is this the only game where the main character is at the top. i'd still put hit at number 1 stat if needed.
Fayt is arguably top in SO3.
But Cliff & Maria can just perform in ways that others cannot, putting them at the top.
Mavelle my queen ❤
I remember Mavelle is more broken in the original version
T'nique too. His Stuff Specialattack to easyly look enemies in the corner doing increadible damage.
Any chance of one of these for Last Hope in the future? Or am I blind and missed it?
I actually have the script written and footage compiled. I think it will be out beginning of Nov.
did they change welch in the star ocean 2 Remake? she is pretty damn amazing in that one!
So2 tier is coming this weekend
@@locloudanerpg uh! nice! remake or OG?
@@sion7651 remake
I recall Cyuss having a weapon that increased his ATK per hit, if he himself wasn't hit.
Buffing that one stat to increase his movement speed and equipping the ring to attach more battle skills made him an absolute monster.
Enjoy his character too much to skip him, so I don't mind Roddick staying decent.
Think I found a way to make Ronyx work, though bow not scaling with magic took alot of experimenting.
Cyuss is still pure CRAP only Marvelle Pericci and Ashlay are the only optional party members worth it the REST are PURE CRAP so Cyuss/ioshua/T'nique/Phia/Welch/Erys all SUCK and are NEVER in my party ever.
@@veghesther3204 He's definitely not. Cyuss is a stun lock monster with Double Slash & Godspeed levelled.
As with the first 3 Star Oceans; if you approach the character with patience and love, you will discover they are secretly godlike with the right setup.
Bless Adray. They don't know. ( ;T ~ T)
@@ManOfLegs He bashes all of the mages of the first two Star Oceans. He basically blasted me for daring to say I rather reunite the siblings instead of keeping Marvelle. I don't like it when people try to force their own opinions on others as if they are gospel. The only character that I know sucks and I wish I never recruited is Welch in the two PSP games, I will never recruit Welch in any playthrough that she is an active party member, now in SO3 where she is only a crafter that's fine.
There’s voice acting and this guy still mispronounced a lot of names.
Good tier list and useful guide on picking party members
It's on purpose...maybe. Or somethings wrong with my mouth. Thanks for the support either way haha.
I’m stuck at the cave of the seven stars I can’t find away to beat resphina and the bandit king I only have rod dick Rony Millie Cyrus and ILLIA Iosua and Mavelle on my team is that enough to beat her? Can anyone give a hint please thanks you?
The first star ocean needed to be more difficult. It felt too easy.
Right. Somehow I'm at a point the iInner PUrgatorium is insanely hard and I missed Ioshua and Mavelle. I Might go back to get Tinique and Welch but I sort of just want to finish it off before Second.
Hopefully so2r will be as good as this remake was
I’m thinking it’ll be better! It honestly looks absolutely amazing.
It should be but since Celine is still PURE CRAP in its demo she Ashton Precis Noel Leon Welch will likely STILL suck and will still never be in my party for SO2 R ever either.
Why you pass over SO4 who is best video 🥲🥹🥲 I been waiting sire 🙇🏽♂️
Got the script nearly written, shouldn’t be long.
It's Meracle, Arumat, with self repairing Buzz Lightyear at God Tier. ;)
Yeah, Ronyx is straight up the worst character by a country mile :P
I feel like going worst to best is actually way worse than best to worst, since for the bad characters you have to compare them to the good characters which you have not covered yet but for the good characters explaining why they are good doesn't really require the context of the bad characters.
Phia was better in the SNES original.
Was she?
I believe so since she didn't HAVE that crappy worthless 1 accessory slot used but since she ONLY has 1 usable slot on the PSP/R version she totally sucks because of that.
@@veghesther3204 interesting, I never played the OG.
I didn't either the SNES game never officially left Japan.
Was Ronyx better in the Snes version? I dunno if mages were just as shafted in the old games battle system.
Nah I'd rather give up Mavelle for Erys. Ilya and Roddick are the dream team you don't need a 3rd attacker
Plus, if you control Erys, she isn't throwing spells when not needed. I don't get the love of Marvelle.
Star Ocean really dropped the ball with Mage appreciation.
The game is voice acted in English my guy. There’s no reason to get Cyuss’s name wrong. It’s pronounced see-yus. They even say his name several times at the beginning of the game.
Man did you just straight up not play the game at all? You're pronouncing 2 names wrong. Joshua is pronounced "Yohshua" (he says it right away) and the Cyuss is pronounced "Seeyus" not "Kaiyus"
You must be new. Prepare to be very disappointed.
What's the game at 0:08?
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