Vermintide 2 Is Astronomically Better Than Vermintide 1 (A Vermintide Series Review)
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- 00:00 Intro
03:15 The Levelling System (Misspelled in the video for good measure)
04:10 Loot
05:47 Combat
10:14 Sound Design
11:57 Level Design
12:40 Graphics ect.
14:29 Story & Lore
15:33 Outro/Drawing
Hey so first things first, thank you so much for clicking on my video, I really hope you enjoyed it! So I really love these games, I think they are just so much fun, I highly recommend you check out both Vermintide 1 and 2. I worked really hard on this video and I am really proud of it so thanks again for checking it out. Here are a few links I mentioned in the video:
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Thank you for playing our games. Very fair reviews. Good job!
Thank you so much! These games are truly a great time!
Hey bro I don't know if you'll read this but could you talk to your colleagues about stealing melee weapon assets animations etc from VT2 and chucking them in darktide. You've got so many cool melee weapons and animations, be a shame to just leave them behind.
Heart warming to see a game dev still following TotalBiscuit. :')
Why do my cosmetics disappear after a few of purchasing them? I play on PS5
The predatory nature of Fatshark is appalling. You give 1/10th content, charge through the roof for cosmetic changes then wonder why your game is 50% bots.
Speaking just for Vermintide II, this is one of the best games of all time.
Then you destroy it with pure GREED and IDIOCY.
Be a better company, you guys would have made 10 fold more money by GIVING A WHOLE GAME to people and not being SHARKS.
For the 1st time player I can understand VT2 would be much more appealing. But as someone who’s played a significant amount of both, VT1 has some great stuff.
1) the level design is really nice. Art design, atmosphere and mechanics. A bit less varied than the sequel. But the dlc really expands that with snowy Azgaraz and gothic Drachenfels. Something about the feel of 1 never quite got translated to 2.
2) Weapon skins are better in 1. Each quality tier really looks more impressive and the reds look fantastic. Just having the orange skin with blue squiggles felt a bit boring for the reds in 2.
3) The bounty board in the inn was great. The missions were a bit more interesting, difficult and better rewards. Building up to a piece of rare loot feels much better than a few shillings for cosmetics. I wish the second game had played more with deed modifiers and weekly loot.
4) the core gameplay was much slower and smaller scale. On higher difficulties every rat felt threatening with no ultimates to get you out of tight spots. VT1 cata double grim felt much harder than anything from the 2nd game. VT2 difficulty leans more into quantity of enemies. It’s not an objective advantage. But it does offer something different from game 2 that appeals to different tastes.
VT2 has lots of great stuff too. Enemy variety, talents, careers, better loot, deeds, graphics.
Exactly this! Vermintide 1 has aged like fine wine. Vermintide 2 is just its flashy cousin. I mean, just look at the interface design, or how lovely the cozy inn looks compared to the keep.
After years of watching, reading and listening to high level veterans of the series, it's nice to see the game from a casual player's perspective. While I would have described some things differently (You didn't get loot for losing, you just leveled up and the first few levels unlock your arsenal n chests / higher difficulties don't unlock new enemies, they change how they spawn to provide a bigger challenge), I'd say I still liked how you phrased things. Happy to see you've been enjoying the game!
(cough cough also check out Vermintide Fanimated cough cough)
Hey thank you so much, I really appreciate the feedback! 😊 And that sounds cool! I'll definitely check it out :)
meaningless. the casual perspective is the anti fun perspective. they want an easy thing to spend time on. i want a fucking video game, so i'm still left wondering: is vermintide 1 a cool, challenging experience? or is it worst than 2?
This was actually a really interesting and fresh review, as someone who started on V2 I always wondered why no one really played V1 anymore, this answered a lot of my questions on that front. Also I would totally be down to watch a dlc video if you decide to make one or if you every decide to make on on darktide as well.
Hey thank you so much! I really appreciate that! I'm glad I was able to help answer some of the questions! :) I'm definitely going to do a Darktide video and I'm really interested in the V2 DLC so I'm sure I'll review that also! Thanks again!
I started playing original vermintide after the second one, and it's nice lore wise through levels (plus you collect pages of game's lore on levels to then read in hub). But there're much less gameplay variety (no talents/careers), graphics are less nice and the whole loot system is really slow and grindy.
So it's a nice game to go through all the levels and read up on the game's/whole warhammer's lore through the pages you find, but in the long run vermintide 2 has much more replayability to offer. (Basically I'm saying it's still worth playing)
I think the best thing 1 has going for it is the levels and atmosphere. Metal objects and surfaces in the first game are far more metallic looking and have some beautiful reflections going on. Whereas in 2, a lot of the time they end up looking like polished stone or almost like plastic. There's probably a better middle ground that could exist if you could give sharpened edges that VT1 look and the unsharpened or less polished bits like the flat of the blade the VT2 look.
The lighting itself also looks better. It's overall darker while sources of light, like torches or the moon's glow, are far more noticeable and striking. It really fits the setting and helps to hammer home a sense of how dire the situation is, darting from torches to the shadow of a burning building cast against a black night as you cleave through the skaven lurking in the shadows. Very atmospheric, and more importantly, very immersive.
As for the levels themselves, it's a tough call. VT2's got more variety, as pointed out the video, but a lot of the missions in one are very interesting and gorgeous. A lot of people love the Karak Azgaraz maps, with good reason, the Wizard's Tower is a fan favorite, and personally speaking, the Horn of Magnus is one of my favorite maps in both games. The Nurgle aesthetic in 2 can also become a quite repetitive formula: mulched corpses, flesh roots, dirty water, and a green filter over everything. It's intentionally ugly, which isn't a bad thing, but does make a lot of Nurgle maps blend together.
There's also an argument to be made that Kerillian got a bit Flanderized in the second game. In 1, Kerillian is a far more somber character. She still snaps at the others, but she's usually more remorseful about it and is willing to open up to the rest of the Ubersreik 5 as they do so in turn, giving a growing sense of comradery. However, in 2, Kerillian's general attitude comes across as far more bitter and spiteful. This could come from failure at Ubersreik, but the way she goes about it is far more frequent and personal.
However, with all that said, everybody can agree on why so many people end up coming back to the sequel. Combat is the bread and butter of Vermintide, and it shines the best in 2. Everything's got a slightly smoother feel to it, there's more dismemberment, there's more enemy variety, and the careers for all the characters help to switch up your playstyle and the flow of combat once you start to fall into a rut.
As far as Kerillian goes - there's a few things going on with her which can explain her more overt snark in the second game (I don't have much experience with VT1 Kerillian but I know more or less how she behaved).
Firstly, and most simply, it's possible she became more personal simply because she knows the others better, as a result of spending so much time with them, and is more able to get personal about it. It's also possible that she knows by now the others won't actually get seriously hurt by her insults because they understand that's just how the elf is.
Secondly, to me it always seemed obvious that Kerillian's snark is a facade of meanness to hide the fact that she doesn't want to admit she actually likes these lumberfoots a lot and considers them friends. The dialogue makes clear that Kerillian has ample opportunity to leave, but she makes up rather flimsy excuses for why she sticks around with people she claims she doesn't like. As she gets closer with the others, her bad attitude grows to compensate - but she still does occasionally open up to them and have genuine conversations, saying that doesn't happen is just ignoring a lot of dialogue.
As for why she doesn't want to admit they are her friends, the simplest explanation is just that it wounds a Wood Elf's pride to do so, especially when it comes to a dwarf. It may also be that Kerillian doesn't want to become attached to people who will die long before she will - after all she constantly reminds the others of how short their lives are compared to hers, calling them "mayflies".
However, it's also clear from the Drachenfels dialogue that Kerillian feels extremely guilty about having a hand in causing the destruction of Ubersreik. I got the sense that Kerillian may feel like she doesn't deserve to be friends with the others, or may feel like she doesn't deserve friends in general. If the others ever found out, they would feel far less betrayed about the rude elf doing it than if it were a close friend.
@@sulphuric_glue4468 Great rundown. Fatshark and the voice actors really did a great job with these characters.
I have around 450 hrs in V2 and around 500 in V1, as I always return to the latter and ultimately prefer it. The aesthetics and atmosphere of V1 is much different, being a darker and much creepier game. Visually it's great, whereas V2 is too bright and often seems to suffer weird lighting issues. However, it's the gameplay in V1 that I prefer. You'll notice that weapons are slower in V1 compared to V2. That is because the challenge of the higher difficulties in V2 are artificial: it simply increases health, damage and amount of enemies. On the higher challenges in V1, the enemies are much fewer in number, but they are none the less dangerous. You can struggle with fighting 2 clanrats, and Stormvermin instakill you. It feels grittier and realistic. You have to manage every swing and time every strike. It feels like you're duelling the enemy, whereas V2 doesn't need much more than rapidly pressing M1. The weapon speed was sped up to compensate for the higher amount of enemies. V2 is Spamtide.
I had high hopes that Darktide would be more like V1, where the most interesting fights are duel-style engagements with skilled and dangerous enemies like the Traitor Guardsmen. This does occur, especially with some elites like the Scab Bombers or Snipers. But on the higher difficulties, there's definitely a spam problem, where you can find yourself exterminating two groups(20 men) of soldiers by yourself within the span of a minute. It feels less impactful.
I went back and played a bit of L4D2 recently and noticed that even on the higher difficulties, there aren't that many zombies. They are just tougher and hit harder. But i'm much less experienced in that series.
The class system, crafting, and loot in V2 is naturally superior to V1, but that's because it's an evolution that required years of testing and feedback. The loot system and crafting in V2 was dogshit at launch, and it is still frustrating having to sit there and press a button to get the right traits for your new weapon. It's better, but not perfect, and it came from somewhere.
I like all of the Tide-games but out of the Vermintides I prefer the first.
Regarding levels: I like the V1 maps more. They are more atmospheric and I just think most of them are better, cooler, more interesting. I'll include DLC maps. Horn of Magnus(Horny Magnus) is legendary. The visuals, objectives, variety and verticality makes it the best map Fatshark have ever made IMO. Wizard's Tower is an incredibly creative and weird map which they sadly didn't remake. Despite all being set in cities or sewers, all of the base game maps feel unique, special and atmospheric. The Dwarven DLC maps(Khazid Kro) are beautiful and probably my favorites. The River on the Reik maps are just as fun and creative.
Much as I may prefer V1 over V2, the concept of V1's higher difficulty being any different from V2 is just ridiculous. The only reason they didn't drown you in enemies was that the game would crack in half and there wasn't enough stagger to go around. Cata scaling was literally just numbers, while V2 at least adds elites to hordes. It's rose tinted glasses to pretend like there was some drastic shift from game to game - had shatfark had the tech to drown you in rats in V1, they would have
Idk why but playing Vermintide 2 throws me back to Halo 2/3/reach days, so definitely see the halo correlation. Great video! keep it up.
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
As for vt1 difficulty, the starting gear on hard difficulty usually takes the same hits to kill as orange / red gear on cataclysm, so it really is mostly about player knowledge and skill.
Yeah, you can get healing on your sword, but the rats on hard hit for about half the damage, and you have 50% more hp than on cata.
This is what completely threw me off 2, you can't just play on harder difficulty because you're a better player, you need to level up your character which takes hours and hours and need to grind bigger power, because guess what if you don't have a bigger power number you actively hit less enemies, what a dumb system...
I was so happy they did a free weekend and people could keep the game, I was playing it while waiting for Darktide and with the influx of new players into the playerbase I had so much fun and made new friends, showing them the book locations and things like that and having their back while they learn the game, glad you also enjoyed VT2, it's such a gem.
I am not much of a subscriber, but you did a good job with the vid and I gave you a like!
Finally I wish I could draw like you, also I think it's awesome your wife helps you with your youtube carreer, my wife and me game together but that's it XD
In my opinion the loot issue stems from people expecting a borderlands style game. It is not. People play for a few hours, and then leave once the numbers stop getting higher and the loot becomes stale, thinking they experienced the whole game, when they barely brushed the surface.
This is a game about getting better in terms of player knowledge and skill, not numbers on items.
There is more loot in vt2, but most of it is absolutely useless once you actually reach level 35. In vt1 the red items are more of a status sign, with most of them being inferior, or sometimes equal to a perfect orange item (there are a few exceptions to this). In vt2 reds are just a numeric upgrade over oranges most of the time.
I love Vermintide 1 for a lot of reasons such as the atmosphere, setting, and good levels. But combat is what keeps me playing Vermintide, it is fun to bonk said vermin - and Vermintide 2's combat is just far superior in my opinion. It's why I'd fairly consistently choose Vermintide 2 over Vermintide 1. While weapon traits were more interesting in Vermintide 1, Vermintide 2's weapon variety, careers, talents, and enemy variety make for a much more varied gameplay experience. So I totally agree with your end conclusion that Vermintide 2 is the better game.
However, there are some tidbits I want to address at risk of sounding like a total "um ackshually" guy. I feel it's a reviewer's responsibility to fact check claims, though I apologise for sperging out enormously about that. I normally wouldn't, but I'm sick in bed and feeling like a neurotic asshole ;_;
I suppose you could correct in the follow-up video if you want?.
1:48 What about... the Stromdorf boss? The DLC in Verm 1 have some of the best and worst maps in Vermintide. Would be keen to see your opinion on the DLC stuff if you do get around to it, especially some of the horrific stuff like Summoner's Peak and the gold that is River Reik.
4:21 You can get loot for a specific character in Vermintide 1 by equipping the corresponding pink trinket. At this point you also say how dull it is to receive a sword you already have in Vermintide 1 while saying VT2's is so much better. The endgame loot in VT2 is REALLY bad. You get the same things over and over and over again like you wouldn't believe, trying to attain a red-quality weapon you don't have yet, only to get 1000 trash oranges and your 15th of the same damn red you already own. It's absolutely insane because the devs added a system in Vermintide 1 that prevents you from getting duplicate reds, so it regressed.
5:15 You say that, unlike in Vermintide 1, you get loot for losing in Vermintide 2. In both games you receive XP, and in both games levelling up comes with loot. Though you explicitly say that to be a difference, and that the XP in Vermintide 1 doesn't do anything besides the features the hub (which you call needlessly obtuse, even though it is present in Vermintide 2? But I don't think that's the care for Okri's challenges specifically, so fair) . Also worth mentioning that in Vermintide 2, levelling up grants you a chest of 3 items, which could be weapons or trinkets, which is definitely *more*. My bad opinion though is that Vermintide 2's loot means so much less because you get tonnes upon tonnes of rubbish loot that has no use besides being discarded, whereas Vermintide 1... I remember getting my first blue, how shiny it was (especially when Vermintide 2's weapons look like they're made from scratched stone), how cool it was to activate the trait. The weapon traits in VTW are definitely more interesting.
You also say at the beginning of the combat section that the combat is largely the same, which... for people viewing, it would look really similar, but it isn't. There's a lot more to Vermintide 2's combat, a lot of additional mechanics, that make it much better. There's far more enemy density, slower weapons with more cleave have more utility, ranged weapons are more powerful and thus satisfying (which you cover). It's years of updates and rebalances to weapons and enemies. The core looks the same, but the games feel very different with any moderate amount of experience, though definitely very similar at the core.
6:12 You mention that charged attacked are used to release a more devastating attack, but that isn't technically true and brushes over a cool part of combat. Charged attacks are a different attack for a different purpose, and part of a different moveset. For example, the dwarf's 2H hammer first light attack does MORE damage in a vertical swing that's easy to hit enemy heads with, making it to even more damage. The first charged attack is a horizontal swing for knocking over unarmoured infantry hordes. Different purposes. You often need combine these on more complex weapons to create effective combos for whatever purpose, e.g. the best horde combo for Saltzpyre's 2H hammer is charged, charged, light, and repeat to maximise horizontal swings to clear basic hordes. At 7:11 charged attacks would have given you less-lethal but better horde-handling horizontal swings, for example. Also worth noting that in Vermintide 2, ALL weapons now have a push attack (only a select few in VT1 had that), and more weapons have a special attack. It adds much more variety and utility to weapons.
Damn, if you actually read all this... thank you, and sorry.
Hey! I really appreciate the feedback, I was pretty certain I had some bits wrong and you are right, as a review I should have done a better job with fact checking, I guess I was just sort of going off my own personal experience with it but I never said anything like that in the video so now I'm being obtuse lol anyway again thank you for your feedback, lol now I'm strongly considering getting the V1 DLC and giving that game some more love, but again much appreciated and this sort of comment is great and helps me know what I can do better for my next review! Sorry you're sick! I hope you feel better soon 🤘
I would like to say something about getting tonnes of trash loot:
The reason for that is to give you materials for the crafting system, as the only way to get them is by breaking down weapons you need a constant supply.
I engage with this system heavlly and I actually have a hard time getting all the materials I need, so for me this loot spam is quite appreceated.
Also you can break down reds you don't use into red powder which you use to upgrade an orange into a red.
@@urimoro4648 Heya, twice now I've tried responding to these comment but it seems like RUclips keeps auto-deleting my comments.
I just wanted to say you're amazing for how you took this and how you responded. You're awesome and so full of humility. I do think your video structure is really entertaining, too!
What likely keeps getting my comment deleted: if you're struggling to find someone to play through VT1 DLC with, or anything Vermintide-related, feel free to *use the PC platform of boiled water to befriend the name that is the same as my RUclips name*
For a 17 minute video you do a really good job of explaining the in and outs of the game.
keep at it bro.
Good review.
What platform was it played on and is V2 online only?
Hey this was a pretty good video! Indeed I can see how entering a new game can be frustrating but I am glad you are enjoying it from the get go. Hope to see more of you later!
Transition slides are insane. Love them
Awesome vid my dude, keep it up!
This is one of my favorite games, I've clocked over 1000 hours into it at this point and I have no intention of stopping.
I hope you keep enjoying to play it. Maybe we'll see each other in a lobby at some point as every once in a while I like to jump back into lower difficulties to help people out a bit. Keeps the game fresh when the higher difficulties get too taxing.
Great video, and such a small channel? Keep it up man!
Thank you so much I really appreciate that!!! 😊😊😊
I love your intro. You've made a very nice video.
A very good review and nice to have a prospective that isn't from someone who had played both to utter death like I have. I grew up loving Warhammer and the Vermintide series is the best I've seen bringing it to life from a ground up prospective.
I picked up Vermintide 1 in 2017, after lots of the initial issues had been ironed out and the DLCs had started to flow and fell in love with it and had over 900 hours in it, was playing on Cataclysm, have vast stockpiles of loot etc. Some of this was with friends but this was also when the VT1 playerbase still had lots of players.
Going to VT2 from top tier VT1 was a nice reset but felt like the grind to item power 300 and leveling system to 30 was arbitrarily gating you from high level play which was somewhat annoying. In VT1 we managed to drag a friend through some early a few levels and they got some top gear far quicker than the 50 hours it takes to get to full max in VT2.
One thing you missed from just playing the base game of VT1 was that the later DLC had some very ambitious ideas that weren't really revisited. This included the first proper Skaven Warlord boss with phases (I think the same model as the one in VT2 Into the Rest) also a level where you get on a ship and fight off skaven boarding actions. Likewise the Dwarf levels are beautiful. VT2 also had some fantastic levels but they ended up being a bit more uniform and formulaic than some of the batshit stuff VT1 experimented with.
Likewise, I very much agree that VT2 is FAR better at giving you loot and letting you craft a particular weapon than VT1 was for a new player in the crucial first hours.
But at the other end when you're playing about with top tier items, I found the Vermintide 1 system of orange weapons having 3 special powers to be more interesting than Vermintide 2 having 2 % number and one special power... which if you had a melee weapon was almost certainly should be "Swift Slayer" which makes you attack faster after a critical hit.
In VT1 the shrine lets you reroll special weapon powers but you can choose to keep your old result, likewise try to increase the % chance of activation but it never gets worse. Whilst in VT2 you have to accept your reroll
And the Red Weapons in Vermintide 1 sometimes have unique weapon power combinations that make them special. Whilst in VT2 they are the same as a very lucky roll on a Orange weapon.
The weekly contracts in VT1 let you work towards a weekly contract for a red weapon when they turn up (which is normally once/week), whilst it's always blind luck from a high level chest in VT2.
But this is the whining from someone who has spent far too many hours in a game they are obsessed with.
As it is, I have some gripes but I have over a thousand hours in VT2 and had a load of other friends start playing at the start of 2021 and helping them learn to play the game was alot of fun. I love the Tide series despite it's occasional spaghetti code and load bearing bugs. Even with the premature release of Darktide.
Great video! I love both games to death, but I agree with a lot of what you said, especially concerning the improved loot and crafting system. I would personally include two more points that make V2 an improvement on V1.
1) the fact that V1 doesnt have bot priority settings for solo play without needing a mod. Vanilla solo play in V1 doesn't allow you to play with bot-Victor at all and you can't have Victor and Sienna on the same team. This was really frustrating to me and a massive oversight by FatShark.
2) totally personal bias but no setting for turning off the "blood splatter on screen" effect in V1.
That being said, some folks hated it, but I really do miss the lorebook page collecting from the first game. The paintings are cool, but it would be awesome if they could somehow port the lorebook system from V1 into V2 as an additional collect-a-thon to the painting system. I need to go back to V1 and finish the book one of these days lol.
Good review bro, i loved the edition!!!
New Video idea:
Darktide is Astronomically Worse Than their previous titles combined
hah! i'm gonna comment on this video! (and over 100 others holy crap that's high for this few views good job bro)
omg your shield rattie is so cool, i thought it was a scan from the game or an official art book or manual for the tabletop game! super cool!
the window you played Vermintide 2 in (same for me, I was new with the free release, never played vermintide 1) had double xp, leveling now takes quite a bit longer. Difficulty does not increase the amount of xp you recieve which imo is bad. (Darktide fixed this)
On the loot side of things, you say you recieve loot every game, which is actually false, because of the double xp you basically got a increase in your character level thus giving you loot. To get more loot after level 35 you will need to get the same amount of xp as it was from 34 to 35. (goes infinite, since every 'levelup' will be a new lootstash. Another great way to get loot is to check the Ostrika(?) and do the challenges. e.g. dodge a hookrat - dodge a leech's projectile
thing that ties in with the next point is how loot works The first difficult can only give loot to power 100 and subsequent difficulties will ALL give loot till max power of 300. (more power = more dmg - cleave - stagger) And higher difficulty could be accomplished with lower level/gear since weapon behaviour is almost always the same and will excell at a certain thing. e.g. krubers handgun sniping specials. But I would have to agree with getting higher gear/level though.
overal great video, idk love reviews seeing how other peoples views stack up against mine. And I found it interesting to see how Vermintide 1 stacks up against 2. Vermintide 1 the characters have this weird gloss over them which make them look kinda plasticy. By the looks of it, hordes are more cohesive in vermintide 2 allowing for better horde control, in 1 from the footage I saw they look to spread out more. So 2 alhough technically more chaotic with the amount of enemies is more manageable.
(and, backseat gamer moment, headshots are amazing in terms of dmg increase, and for some enemies you have to attack the head. In the castle, to the left there's a courtyard with dummies to test damage, in you look behind the regular dummy up the stairs are armored, so you can test what weapons can and cannot regularly do dmg against armored/shielded enemies. And one final secret, try getting behind the bookshelf of the shopsalesman, forgot his name, the cosmetic/daily rewards guy)
In V2, higher difficulties used to give more XP. Or rather lower difficulties gave less. They made all difficulties give same XP (upped to what you used to get on legend etc) so it's easier for new players to catch up since skill unlocks are more of an barrier of entry then progression. You want all your skills as soon as possible.
One thing I thought you'd touch on in the Sound Design section is how well they differentiated Special enemy types like Ratlings, Assassins and so on, they all have distinct audio cues as well as character call outs so you know they're coming while in a horde and/or boss fight. Would love to see you get deeper into the game and try out Legend difficulty. If you liked this, then you'll probably like Darktide as well. Cool to hear a newcomer's thoughts on the series, Vermintide 2 holds a special place in my heart and always will.
The specials sounds are great, the only times I get flabbergasted is when a warp fire dies and it's sounds like there's a gas rat coming, lol
Cool vid, nice job
Dude, can't wait for your follow up and / or darktide review. Subbed for it!
Hey thank you so much! I really super appreciate that! I am currently working on my Darktide review rn! :)
Good video my man.
The video quality kind of took me by surprise, I'm glad my my rat-men infested feed brought your channel to my attention, keep it up!
I still can't believe how hard Fatshark dropped the ball with the back to ubersreik dlc. Rather than bringing back all the maps from the first game, which they could have done, they brought back 3 maps, and not particularly good ones either besides Horn of Magnus. So many good Vermintide 1 maps that we'll never get to play outside Vermintide 1. It's sad honestly, especially because they had a different design philosophy than the Vermintide 2 maps which would have made for a nice change in gameplay
Fair enough, some thoughts:
1. Some people prefers V1's grittiness as it captures the "grimdark" concept that Warhammer is famous for. In V1 the characters fight like survivors, in VT2 they fight like demi-gods. Graphically VT2 appears more colourful and hopeful, which is at odds which the events taking place just before and during the end times of the fantasy setting.
2. I actually find some guns sounds better in VT1 than VT2, by simply sounding louder and more "punchy".
3. There's another attack type in VT2 called block attack, hold block and then do and attack. It is different from any of your other attacks,but it costs stamina.
i miss arrows not glueing skaven to the walls and i miss some of the range and melee perks/sockets that made range more fun as well.
12:14 "I never found myself stuck-stuck"
SKAVEN SPY! AWAY WITH YOU, VERMIN!
Ive been having SO much fun playing V2. I was kind of board of videogames for a while, I had tried V2 at some point and owned it but as a noob to it It felt overwhelming / hard so never touched it again. then this month I finally picked it up again and played through a couple levels as necromancer and had a blast, in a week I have gotten my necro to level 32.
As a casual player though I will say the game has a few things that usually make me stop or get bored playing it. The levels are really long if you're either underpowered for the difficulty OR if you're trying to find tomes and grimoires without guides. I usually only play 2 games before I stop playing (it does get a BIT repetitive, it's definitely 100x better with friends).
I've also had numerous games where I died or the game glitched or I fell off a cliff and dying w/o my character hanging on the ledge. I understand the dying normally because you messed up or were underpowered, but dying due to terrible bots, from accidentally falling off the edge, or losing all progress due to game crashing sucks. spent 20-45min playing through a level and have nothing to show for it (except for going up like half a level, but when my game crashed I gained NOTHING. it literally happened at the portal stone at the end of the level ;-;). The speed at which you get crates even with objectives / quests and leveling up feels super slow in veteran difficulty so getting grimoires and tomes is mandatory, It feels hard to judge if im ready to gup to the higher difficulties past veteran. I did use crafting extensively to try to speed up leveling up my character faster, but now I'm low on materials (whoopsies) and am now at a slow point of leveling up my characters power that just feels like such a slow crawl forward. it's a bit disheartening having so little progress after hours of gameplay and completing levels.
Nice review 👍
Hey thank you so much I really appreciate it!
epic video. the masses demand MORE!
The must uncontroversial title & review of ALL time.
Just remember guys that without the flawed first we wouldn’t have the awesome second game
as a person who’s played Warrior Priest religiously, i absolutely recommend that DLC if you’re looking more for a support class for Saltzpyre. But if I’m being honest, the other DLC are mid at best. The only nice thing is you can get the Cataclysm difficulty with Winds of Magic and then after defeating all bosses. Vermintide 2 is easily an S tier game for me, the melee combat and characters are fantastic and have made me laugh multiple times. great review
13:05 those bugs happen less in VT2 because they removed the ability of arrows to pin enemies to the wall.
Cool review. Do Darktide : )
You keep saying pendantic it's Ped-ant-ic. Wishing you well this holiday season - A pedant.
I prefer the atmosphere and dialogue in V1, and the best maps in V1 are better than anything in V2 (though V2's map quality is more consistent). Agree that V2 is an overall better game, though.
Bro how the hell are you such a small youtuber your content is awesome. Literally my only suggestion is working on your voices audio quality but it didn't hurt the experience at all. Just subscribed and I can't wait to see more of you. Happy christmas
Hey thank you so much! I really appreciate it, that is super kind ☺️☺️☺️ I'm working on getting a new mic and hoping that helps step up the content! Thanks again for your kind words and subscription!!! Have a wonderful holiday! 😊
Great review. Vermintide 2 is awesome, i got it for free thinking it would be just something that is pretty but not really my thing. Turned out being amazing.
Fun fact gw is making a vermintide 3 bit in aos with none of the characters
This was a great video, I like your art style a lot! The little jazzy intros for the different sections were awesome.
Nice one
Hey thank you so much!
I would say more extensive than first one :) In V1 you don´t have "panic button" (special attack) and the combat is slower. But I really like the maps of the first one. It´s just shame V1 doesn´t have bigger playerbase. Maybe 150 gamers max, 200 at peak times.
Yo mate ur video is fire!!
Continue )
( drawings are rly good)
Thank you so much! I really super appreciate that! ☺️
Excellent voice over!
Thank you!!!
While I agree with most of your points as someone who’s played both of these games when they originally came out I just wanna say the player hub for V1 is way better than V2 imho, it just feels like a comfier place to wait for your AFKing friends lol. Like besides the target dummies V2 really doesn’t utilize that massive amount of space super well and I really do miss the coziness of the inn as opposed to the empty, cold-feeling, grey stone space of the keep.
Also I wish they would port over Wizards Tower to 2. That’s one of my favorite maps ever!
Greate video, I’d recommend a new mic, keep on grinding videos. RUclips is especially brutal in terms of the ‘difficulty’ curve if you like. You’ll be getting 100-1000 views per vid for like 20+ vids untill BOOM and your getting 10k+ views for another 20 and then BOOM 50k views for another 20 so on and so forth…
New sub here trying to get into Warhammer but it's so complicated to understand all the lore between Warhammer and Warhammer 40k
i definitely felt it but imma power thru and try to beat 1 with my friends before 2 that way we can enjoy it more
nice review! can't wait to see how you react to darktide.
Thank you so much! Darktide is my next review! Working on it now! :)
Overall experiences VT2 did it better, mainly due to the reworked loot system but imo the asmosphere and feel of the game is still better in VT.
this was a great video, i would love to see you get more attention.
Darktide videos coming soon? :)
Wow thank you so much! That's super kind ☺️ and yes actually Darktide is the next video on the list!
Nice review dude. Are you gonna be playing Darktide? I think it will be on the xbox game pass after the 30th of this month
Hey thank you! I am definitely going to review Darktide! It's actually the next video I'm working on! :)
I will say that on console the hud for vermintide 2 takes up much of the screen while the pc version of V2 is perfect it bearly takes up the screen the console version needs that hud atleast an option to change the hud would be good
Buy everything for Vermintide 2. It´s worth it. I played that game for over 2000 hours
So beautiful.
Not to be pendantic, but that's not how you pronuncize that word. 😃
Thanks for the cool video and rat guy drawing. 👍
The loot you get when you lose is from leveling up
Great video btw
Good review, glad the algorithm suggested it- keep it up!
Thank you!!! I definitely got some algorithm love with this one!
I can point out some problems with the gameplay loop but for the most part its just a very good game.
The problem I have with them is the devs' hilariously scummy monetization policies, you have endless amounts of shitty cosmetics to buy yet they also lock entire campaigns (some of which arent even worth it for the price) and classes behind paywalls.
Darktide also looks a colossal disappointment from what I've seen, looks like a reskin of Vermintide and not at all the much more "ranged focused" game I wanted it to be. The progression system in that game also looks absolutely horrific with progression having to be re-started for every single character and all the loot being obtained from an RNG shop with currency you earn from RNG objectives which require you to play specific missions even though the missions themselves are also RNG...
Really hope Darktide includes settings that make it run on lower end systems. Verminetide 2 runs beautifully, but Darktide is too much for my PC :(
awesome vid!
Thank you!!! 😊😊😊
Grail knight
I find Sister of the Thorn to be pretty weak as a dlc class.
Good review 👌🏻
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that!
0:37 are you saying does or doesn't as a joke lol
Good drawing, good vid. Enjoy the games dude
Thank you!!! I super appreciate it! 😊
what a pleasing video.
You are right the Warhammer world is an interesting one to get into.
Another Interesting difference in first to second game that i would like to see you do (if you feel up for it) would be risk of rain.
If you enjoyed Vermintide I feel you will at least enjoy Risk of rain 2.
Have fun
Hey thank you so much! I really appreciate that! :) And that's a great idea thank you for your suggestion!
I liked one way better than two i know 2 had more variety of maps and enemies but with how limiting the weapon and class restrictions were i just couldn't stand it compared to 1
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I wholeheartedly disagree. Good weapons being scarce in Vermintide I is what made the game better. When you actually got one, it felt really special. In Vermintide 2, it is the opposite. You are flooded with items. And when it is easy to obtain, it loses its value.
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You can win in Nightmare difficulty using white weapons, it is not a question of loot. Dodge and block, and you now have 90% better chances.
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Weapons in Vermintide I had exact damage parameters, so you could always predict how much hits to kill you would need. Vermintide 2s byzantine game damage mechanics are a big step down. Also, don't use the repeater pistol, it sucks.
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Sound is worse; there are less voice lines (for example, in V1 characters mock each other when they get grabbed) and the weapons sounds when hitting flesh are less meaty. I can understand this last part being a personal preference, though.
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Not just city streets and sewers, there is also a magical tower, a farm map, a forest map. But yeah, Vermintide 2 has bigger variety. They are also more detailed.
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The graphics in Vermintide 2 seems like someone botched something along the line. Notice how you have to have ridiulously high gamma to even see something? And as a result everyting looks washed out, except the dark parts, which look pitch black (look at Victor's clothes, for example). Vermintide 1 doesn't have that problem. Granted, when it works, the lighting in 2 is fantastic... but it usually doesn't.
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This might be a personal preference, but the interface in 2 is waaaaaay worse. One of the biggest let downs for me, in fact. In 1, everything was simple and acceesible with a single click, and the _art of the interface_ was also fantastic, downright to the smallest little button. 2s interface is not only more complex, but also way uglier.
pedantic only has one N my dude
Haha thank you, omg I am dumb sometimes, working on it though! 🤪
Hey, nice review. Keep going for Sigmar!
And the empire! Haha thank you!
Bro your friend has an xbox mic, and i LOVE it :D
Haha does he? I haven't asked 🤪
On a pedantic note, it's pedantic. Not pendantic.
Aside from that, I really want to talk shit on how little you played and that you didn't do the combat justice. But, there are reviews from people who have the time to experience the rest of the game. So it's kinda nice to have a bare bones noob review.
It's sad that "sequel managed to be better than original" is news.
gud vid
Great review my dude! I love watching new people who don't know anything about the setting enjoy the hell out of these games
Thank you! I really appreciate that! I'm absolutely loving all the lore going on in Warhammer!
wow 1 is literally just l4d, never seen any ingame footage until now
I have over 1k hrs in vt2, this is nice to see good content
Damn! That's rad! And thank you so much I really appreciate it!
On certain technical aspects maybe, the vibe and atmosphere of the 1st game were more Warhammer Fantasy(Hopeless beautiful rich fantasy setting but bleak af since there's always mass violence and death, characters are aware of where they at) than Vermintide 2 which is very 'End Times' nonsense where everyone thinks they're the main character, like all the heroes suddenly behaving like narcissistic teenagers(Kerillian was arrogant but enigmatic in VT1, she didn't even qualify back then, now she's just an annoying brat like the rest of the squad with their absurdly Marvel Superhero cocky and out of place bravado)
Vermintide 1 felt like a hopeless world full of mystique, a true Warhammer fantasy vibe piece, Vermintide 2 is just way too End Times(Bad writting that tried to justify AOS birth, nothing wrong with AOS, just... The End Times)
Cool story bro play darktide
Good video :]
Thank you! 😊
You don't feel that Vermintide 1 has more developed graphics and textures as well as a darker environment
Vermintide One was a fun broken mess Kerilliam Trueflight Bow once at golden tier is broken. Along with less options it is like comparing doom 2016 to doom Eternal one good (2016) and ones infinitely better(Eternal)
very good video :D
Thank you I really appreciate that!
3:28 lies
I don't get all the hate vermintide 2 bots get, in my experience they're the best bots I've encountered in a game so far, if you gear them up they're better than some players I've played with, I even played on legend difficulty and managed to finish the level with all the books with nothing but bots on my team. Also there's a mod on steam workshop called better bots or something, it gives you options to tweak the bots' behavior, making them even more effective.
Totally agree, they're definitely some of the better bots I have experience, and I'll have to check out that mod it sounds awesome!
keep it up. dont doubt yourself. get a new mic xoxo
You might really like Deep Rock Galactic, very fun with friends and very replayable
Totally! I have been super interested in that game! I'ma have to swoop it when I get some extra cash!
Better than Darktide too
u dont get loot up on death dude...
u get loot because u leveled up.... every time you lvl up
u get a chest...
if you die and dont lvl up you dont get anything
Btw. its pedantic, not pendantic
Just here to prove you wrong and say that someone did indeed comment on this :)
Appreciate the video
Haha thank you! I really appreciate it! 😊😊😊