For all that you could just buy a pure sign wave generator. Actually any inverter generator will produce clean enough sawtooth sign-wave to run anything in your home.
TY: New Zealand is on my wish list to visit. I'm a bit of an amateur geology nut and as your country's geology is as active, if not more so then my home state of California, I would like to compare the two. One thing most people don't know about is that there is a super volcano in Eastern California known as the Long Valley Caldera. It's last major eruption was about 750,000 years ago and is still as dangerous as Yellow Stone.
I use the same setup. I run generator to a 500 watt 12 volt switching power supply. Then charge battery 100 amp hr agm. The pure sine inverter is connected to the battery. I like to be able use inverter when not running the generator. It is easy to diagnose and replace components too.
First see part 3 my "mostly finished" set up. It worked out well. A little over a week ago we lost power do to a downed power line. The power was only going to be off about 6 hrs. So as gas here in California is ridiculously expensive right now, we did not use the generator, knowing that the fridge/freezer would hold it's cold that long. We ran our cable box, tv, internet, one computer and a couple of LED table lamps off the group 27 battery for most of that time. When power was restored I found that only about 15% of the battery's stored power had been used. I am now confident that if PG&E cuts our power for any extended period of time, my system will meet our needs.
Oh man! I have all similar gear except for the line conditioner. 1700 watt pure sinewave inverter, 2 deep cycle batteries, 4 solar panels with PWM charge controllers. Unfortunately solar can't keep up because of the clouds even tho each panel was rated at 350 watts!( actually 240 watts short circuit current) overrated power rating. Pathetic charge controllers. Yep I'm doing your trick! I might have to get a super duty line conditioner? Lol. Love this setup! Top job sir!🙂👍👍👍
I have a 100 watt solar charging set up that I use for short term back up power only. I also have solar panels on my roof that produce maybe 25% of the total household energy needs in the summer only (they are damn near useless in winter). There is no battery back up on the roof panels so when I lose mainline power the solar system shuts down for safety to the line workers. I looked into installing a battery backup for the house solar and was quoted $30,000.00!!!!! I DON'T THINK THATS GOING TO HAPPEN! I guess I'll just have to keep using my gas generator and the Greenies be damned.
@@d.s.steele3100 30 grand?? Damn that's criminal. Have you gotten other quotes? That is so wrong!! Can you take them off and sell them? Or use as as backyard power bank to go completely off grid? Any government incentives for homeowners like in Australia? They do installs for free and you pay in your bill instead of paying up front. Your paying like an electric bill? Our neighbors paid off in 2 years there system with no upfront costs, rebate from government. I'd look into it? Surely? I'd pull em down and repurpose otherwise! Cheers
@@d.s.steele3100 I had an idea that my brother was going to make some gears for me until he got motor neuron disease and he is completely disabled. He worked it out. The math. A dc motor running a generator with a pulley system or gearing but once it's moving a Permanent magnet generator at 1000 rpm? It's using approximately 30 to 50 Amps max? But the solar icharging the batteries and keeping them topped up during the day. I would need an extra 4 panels ancharge controllers.at the moment I'm getting on a sunny day 48 to 50 amps of current out of 4. With MPPT CHARGE controller the lower sunlight doesn't affect as bad on power. But at over 100 AUD each compared to PWM? ( 5 to 10 AUD) it's a big difference . Startup would be high and under load but at 30 t0 50 Amps under load? I ran out of cash to do this. One electric engineer claimed it would work great as long as I had the solar power going and it was suitable. Quieter than petrol! Just a thought and expirement I was going to do. But covid situation stuffed a lot of people in Australia! Cheers
@@dragan3290: Unfortunately the solar system is a 30 yr. lease and was on the house when I bought it. I'm the 4th owner so I have to live with it, I can't make any changes to the (Sun Power) equipment with out their approval and their installer. Would love to break the lease but that is expensive and a massive pain in the azz.
@@d.s.steele3100 that's harsh. What a pathetic system!!! No warranty? If it's a lease it should be under warranty! Scumbags. A greener environment? ( not).
Dude could have bought a ups 1000 for 200$ and been better off then that contraption of over costed things. The amount of energy loss would be incredible 😊
Coz when you get further away from the "first world" these type of generators might be the only one you can get. Shipping costs to the Pacific is horrendous and takes forever
@@offgridwanabe: Your correct in that the power supply cleaned the power coming off the generator quit a lot. The two functions of the battery are 1: It did smooth the "noise" on the DC side a little more and 2: I can run off just the battery, short term, with out the generator [no major appliances (as fridges will hold their cold for a few hours)]. If you have not viewed part 3 this will show my operating setup. PS: Gas isn't cheap especially here in my over taxed neck of the woods.
Solar panels do not put out near enough power to drive heave appliances during the day. Add to that putting out enough added power to charge batteries for night use and you can see why I did not do that. I have 21 solar panels on my roof that only provide about 25% of my houses power needs during the day. That's when I have full sun, way less on overcast days. About 3 years ago we lost power for 4 days (thank you PG&E). At that point is when I made the decision to put this system together. It is a witch with a capital B to try to save frozen food with dry ice. PS: Forgot to mention, when the power goes down, the solar panels disconnect from the power panel so they don't back feed to the main power lines and electrocute the repair linemen.
When I put this system together 9,000+ watt inverter generators were and still are $2,000.00 or more. My total investment was less then $1,200.00. Harbor Freight came out with their line of CARB compliant inverter generators after I started this project. Another thing to consider is that this set up can be adapted to older generators. PS: After Jan. 1st, 2024 gas engines under 25 HP (including generators) can't be sold in California. And people want Newsom to run for President!!!!????
So how is this cost effective? I can see using Solar panel to charge the Battery & that setup for long term use of the PC but the total cost you could of just got an inverter generator & hook it up to your natural gas, done.!!
Not every home has natural gas, In my case I'm on propane and other homes are all electric. When I started this project 6.5 KW inverter generators were $3,000.00 +,. I put my system together for just over $1,000.00. Another thing to consider is a lot of people already have older non inverter generators. By using an older generator this set up can be put together for around $500.00.
Well Propane has a Higher output than NG and I'm from the old school so I have a few self charged lightbulbs and a 3.5kw for the fridge's after eight hours and I sit and read or Clean my guns . Lol@@d.s.steele3100
For all that you could just buy a pure sign wave generator. Actually any inverter generator will produce clean enough sawtooth sign-wave to run anything in your home.
Sign-wave 😂
That was my first thought but now he can hook up whatever cheap dirty sine generator
Hey brother greetings from New Zealand, love your videos
TY:
New Zealand is on my wish list to visit. I'm a bit of an amateur geology nut and as your country's geology is as active, if not more so then my home state of California, I would like to compare the two.
One thing most people don't know about is that there is a super volcano in Eastern California known as the Long Valley Caldera. It's last major eruption was about 750,000 years ago and is still as dangerous as Yellow Stone.
I use the same setup. I run generator to a 500 watt 12 volt switching power supply. Then charge battery 100 amp hr agm. The pure sine inverter is connected to the battery. I like to be able use inverter when not running the generator. It is easy to diagnose and replace components too.
First see part 3 my "mostly finished" set up. It worked out well.
A little over a week ago we lost power do to a downed power line. The power was only going to be off about 6 hrs. So as gas here in California is ridiculously expensive right now, we did not use the generator, knowing that the fridge/freezer would hold it's cold that long. We ran our cable box, tv, internet, one computer and a couple of LED table lamps off the group 27 battery for most of that time. When power was restored I found that only about 15% of the battery's stored power had been used.
I am now confident that if PG&E cuts our power for any extended period of time, my system will meet our needs.
Oh man! I have all similar gear except for the line conditioner. 1700 watt pure sinewave inverter, 2 deep cycle batteries, 4 solar panels with PWM charge controllers. Unfortunately solar can't keep up because of the clouds even tho each panel was rated at 350 watts!( actually 240 watts short circuit current) overrated power rating. Pathetic charge controllers. Yep I'm doing your trick! I might have to get a super duty line conditioner? Lol. Love this setup! Top job sir!🙂👍👍👍
I have a 100 watt solar charging set up that I use for short term back up power only.
I also have solar panels on my roof that produce maybe 25% of the total household energy needs in the summer only (they are damn near useless in winter). There is no battery back up on the roof panels so when I lose mainline power the solar system shuts down for safety to the line workers.
I looked into installing a battery backup for the house solar and was quoted $30,000.00!!!!! I DON'T THINK THATS GOING TO HAPPEN! I guess I'll just have to keep using my gas generator and the Greenies be damned.
@@d.s.steele3100 30 grand?? Damn that's criminal. Have you gotten other quotes? That is so wrong!! Can you take them off and sell them? Or use as as backyard power bank to go completely off grid? Any government incentives for homeowners like in Australia? They do installs for free and you pay in your bill instead of paying up front. Your paying like an electric bill? Our neighbors paid off in 2 years there system with no upfront costs, rebate from government. I'd look into it? Surely? I'd pull em down and repurpose otherwise! Cheers
@@d.s.steele3100 I had an idea that my brother was going to make some gears for me until he got motor neuron disease and he is completely disabled. He worked it out. The math. A dc motor running a generator with a pulley system or gearing but once it's moving a Permanent magnet generator at 1000 rpm? It's using approximately 30 to 50 Amps max? But the solar icharging the batteries and keeping them topped up during the day. I would need an extra 4 panels ancharge controllers.at the moment I'm getting on a sunny day 48 to 50 amps of current out of 4. With MPPT CHARGE controller the lower sunlight doesn't affect as bad on power. But at over 100 AUD each compared to PWM? ( 5 to 10 AUD) it's a big difference . Startup would be high and under load but at 30 t0 50 Amps under load? I ran out of cash to do this. One electric engineer claimed it would work great as long as I had the solar power going and it was suitable. Quieter than petrol! Just a thought and expirement I was going to do. But covid situation stuffed a lot of people in Australia! Cheers
@@dragan3290: Unfortunately the solar system is a 30 yr. lease and was on the house when I bought it. I'm the 4th owner so I have to live with it, I can't make any changes to the (Sun Power) equipment with out their approval and their installer. Would love to break the lease but that is expensive and a massive pain in the azz.
@@d.s.steele3100 that's harsh. What a pathetic system!!! No warranty? If it's a lease it should be under warranty! Scumbags. A greener environment? ( not).
Dude could have bought a ups 1000 for 200$ and been better off then that contraption of over costed things. The amount of energy loss would be incredible 😊
why do all that crap just buy a inverter generator !
My thoughts exactly. All that cheap chinese junk and STILL he likely doesn't have reliable clean power.
Because he can
Coz when you get further away from the "first world" these type of generators might be the only one you can get. Shipping costs to the Pacific is horrendous and takes forever
Just buy a chargeverter and be done with it all.
I have a Solar charged battery set up for short power outages. When power goes out 2,3,4 or more days, were do I get the power for that charger?
@@d.s.steele3100 From the genny it will clean up the power for you
@@offgridwanabe: Your correct in that the power supply cleaned the power coming off the generator quit a lot.
The two functions of the battery are 1: It did smooth the "noise" on the DC side a little more and 2: I can run off just the battery, short term, with out the generator [no major appliances (as fridges will hold their cold for a few hours)].
If you have not viewed part 3 this will show my operating setup.
PS: Gas isn't cheap especially here in my over taxed neck of the woods.
You could just bought some solar panels connected to your pure sine inverter.
Solar panels do not put out near enough power to drive heave appliances during the day. Add to that putting out enough added power to charge batteries for night use and you can see why I did not do that.
I have 21 solar panels on my roof that only provide about 25% of my houses power needs during the day. That's when I have full sun, way less on overcast days.
About 3 years ago we lost power for 4 days (thank you PG&E). At that point is when I made the decision to put this system together. It is a witch with a capital B to try to save frozen food with dry ice.
PS: Forgot to mention, when the power goes down, the solar panels disconnect from the power panel so they don't back feed to the main power lines and electrocute the repair linemen.
sell that generator and get a inverter generator problem solved.
Cost vs benefit, This cost 1/2 the price of an equivalent inverter generator. Most of what I'm powering does not need a perfect sine wave.
With all the money you spent you could of bought a inverter generator
When I put this system together 9,000+ watt inverter generators were and still are $2,000.00 or more. My total investment was less then $1,200.00. Harbor Freight came out with their line of CARB compliant inverter generators after I started this project.
Another thing to consider is that this set up can be adapted to older generators.
PS: After Jan. 1st, 2024 gas engines under 25 HP (including generators) can't be sold in California. And people want Newsom to run for President!!!!????
So how is this cost effective? I can see using Solar panel to charge the Battery & that setup for long term use of the PC but the total cost you could of just got an inverter generator & hook it up to your natural gas, done.!!
Not every home has natural gas, In my case I'm on propane and other homes are all electric. When I started this project 6.5 KW inverter generators were $3,000.00 +,. I put my system together for just over $1,000.00. Another thing to consider is a lot of people already have older non inverter generators. By using an older generator this set up can be put together for around $500.00.
Well Propane has a Higher output than NG and I'm from the old school so I have a few self charged lightbulbs and a 3.5kw for the fridge's after eight hours and I sit and read or Clean my guns . Lol@@d.s.steele3100
Waste of time and effort for the cheap inverter gens you can get now.