Taking one off a bottle doesn’t do it for good. I order bags of these rubber seals of different sizes for bottling Homebrew. They split after a few uses. But using new ones out of the plastic bag seems like the way to go??
@TwoDot I gave most of a 100 count bag of Groelch washers to the local music store where my grandson and I are taking guitar lessons. These new washers are the way to go. They will parcel them out to kids as needed!
I have the "beer bottle" style rubber seal locks. I used to keep both locks on all the time. I have one strap and a single bass. However, I started transporting my bass regularly. And I found that the top strap was a nuisance to constantly add/remove all the time. So, I just use a single strap lock on the bottom. Keeps it sturdy and safe. The upper strap is generally the safer one w/out a lock. And, now when I put my Sire M7 into it's hardcase... I remove the upper strap and just lay it in the case. Works great.
A tip for the rubber strap blocks (Fender, Ernie Ball etc): after playing or removing your strap simply leave them on the buttons so they stay with your guitar for next time! I can’t tell you how many of those I’ve lost at gigs.
0:40 Holy moly!! You mentioned this at the beginning of the video?? No way! Every other channel skips it entirely! This is way too useful, sir. You are going to put all the other channels out of a job
I really appreciate that man! This is a very common issue and we face it a lot in the workshop at Thomann. We try to inform everyone about this to avoid being unhappy with their guitars. Cheers //Kris
Do you have any straplock recommendation that will fit on a Harley Benton DC guitar? Like you say, the HB original screwhead does not fit in the strap lock HB unfortunately (and the HB straplock screw do not fit in the predrilled hole in the HB guitar.)@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
I have used 2-inch safety pins on the bottom buttons as strap locks, and they have yet to fail me. My old lead singer installed Dunlop locks on my Washburn, and I've never liked them. Keep it simple, and love this video!
I vote schaller S locks…quality and good finishes….sturdy and retaining compression ring design perfect for thicker suede straps…look good….easy on / off…the ultimate winner.
I use Loxx strap locks on every guitar I own. They are much smaller than the Schaller style U-channel locks, so they don't tear up your case or gig bag. You also don't have to fumble around to find the right orientation in order to get the lock out of the U-channel to take the strap off. I've never had one fail me.
My vote goes for the Schaller! Especially since they now fixed the biggest issue, which was the nut on the strap getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I still have the older model on my guitars, I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nut to ensure it won't get loose. But it's nice to know it's not an issue anymore.
I used Dunlop for years but my sweat seems to be very corrosive which leads to rusting of some of the inner components. Grolsch caps all the way, just can’t do cool srv behind the back switches but sure beats the alternative
Great video, I myself use the Jim Dunlop straploks and I'm very happy about them. Although I was a little bit concerned about drilling a wider and deeper hole into my bass it went down pretty nicely.
My j custom came with something similar to the shaller and its super secure but playing sitting in the classical position for more than 3 mins is really painful because it digs into my thigh. Im going with the rubber rings as a replacement. I appreciate your videos sir🫡🫡
Think I'll go with the simple Fender locks. It's a gift for my friend who plays bass and she's had a strap issue in some recent gigs. Bread fan at the end was a nice surprise too!
I used to use strap locks in my late teens, early 20's because I was jumping around on stage like a madman. But, the Schallers always ripped out. Even after refilling the holes with the toothpicks and wood glue trick. If you think about it, what is the purpose of the claw of a hammer? It's used to pull nails. The old Schallers I had rattled and put a lot of pressure over time on the screws. Honestly, just buying wide, quality $40-100 leather straps solved the back issues I was having and good leather is so stiff, and stays stiff longer, I haven't had an issue since. It made me wonder why I used $10 straps to hold my investments? I also leave straps on as much as possible, so they stay stiff around the strap button. Also the Schaller's dinged up my guitars because it's a metal piece on a flimsy band when you take it off. Also, if you have to use a $10 strap, just replace it when the leather is flimsy. My bass and accoustic strings usually cost more than a cheap strap, why did I think I shouldn't invest in good straps?
Plastic Bread bag clips were my first strap locks, I’ve moved to the Schaller style, I need to look at the rattle free ones. Rubber 🦭 spotted randomly leaving adhesive residue with some kind of scented stickers!
I was just about to drill holes into my beautiful new Harley Benton TE-62 DB LPB (terrible name. Beautiful guitar) to fit new Dunlop strap lock pins. Then RUclips saw fit to play me this video. Top tip - use the old screws if they fit. Which of course they do! Really simple tip but one that had not occurred to me in my enthusiasm to fit my strap. My guitar thanks you for sparing it from unnecessary surgery!
i got a pair of "Daddario Dual Lock PW-DLC-01", they work like the o-rings, cost like 3-4 euros at Thomann. Easy to put on and remove, steady on use. Love em.
I'm glad you showcased the simple locks. That's what I'm looking for. My instrument is heavy and the problem I have with the more advanced locking systems is that the hardware holds the strap out further from the body. It acts like a cantilever and the screw ends up bending. I prefer the strap right up against the body.
I moved to D'Addario Lockin Straps, they work great even on my Schaller Pins. Only exception are the big PRS pins on these I use the Ernie Ball Strap which I got fro free at the Thomann Store :-)
2:50 i don't know about the fender strap block, but the one from daddario is REALLY easy to put on and off. It takes literally one second and zero effort to change guitars and straps.
I’ve got one custom strap and three basses,I like the Ernie ball locks but you can’t buy just the lock buttons on their own so you have to buy three sets of locks,I think Schaller sell just the button part
I like to use Schaller locks, but might use the „cheap“ locks you presented on my hagstrom super swede. On my Sire bass, one of the Schaller locks gets loose very easily, no matter how hard I screw it back on. The screw sits tight then, but after 2 hours of playing it’s loose again. So a good topic now would be to show how to fix washed out screw holes. :)
If you never want to take that strap pin out again, put some wood glue in the hole and then screw back in the pin. If you want to be able to take it off some time, put a wooden dowel that fights the hole tight in there hole with some wood glue, when securely dried, drill a pilot hole and then screw the strap pin back in
I use the schallers in my best bass. In the others I pick 2 plastic coca-cola caps, put a nice hole in the middle with a solder Iron an trace a triangular route off of the center. Works fine, and comes a pair for free after 2 coca-colas, so I got to change it regularly.
When I realized how much better the Schaller s locks are compared to every other solution, I even went back to guitars that already had strap locks on them and replaced those.
I have always been happy with my Schallers. But the latest generation _twists_ against the strap for some weird reason. This is quite annoying, as the opening of the lock often points sideways to the point of almost looking downwards. I screwed them in with all my might and fixed the securing screw like I should. Still, they don't stay put. I would really be grateful for any ideas on what might cause this.
The problem is this so-called silent feature...the bolts on the strap pieces that fit into the pins are thicker now, so that the locks can't rattle anymore. At the same time, the locks also won't rotate properly anymore and constantly get stuck in the wrong position. So instead of the locks rotating, your strap will rotate between the parts that are holding it and thus get damaged. The old design was so much better.
@@Noone-of-your-Business You're welcome. :) I have to admit I actually just read up on that somewhere else because that issue wouldn't stop annoying me^^
I use both the rubber rings and the Dunlop locks and I have seen Clapton using the Dunlop locks on his strats so, um that is good enough for me..lol..great video ! thanks
Beer strap locks are the best. You get them for free just buying beer. And actually they are pretty safe. And one more hack. If you don't drink beer and don't have friends who do, go to Walmart or special store for plumbers and get some plumbing seals. They cost almost nothing and they are black :)
Chris, LOXX are from Germany? They are very strong, quick and easy . Super low profile, and don’t poke you, or stick out like an antenna !😅 If the strap threads back out, the guitar stays firmly attached.
This applies to any Instrument that has Strap pegs. The Keytar is actually a very Popular one because this allowed Keyboard players to play standing up.
It allows keyboard players to move around like a guitar player. Playing a keyboard standing up is done all the time, have a look at any electro band live.
I bought black rubber rings from a brewery. Was cheap and better than all the expensive stuff I tried out. There is also a Zakk Wylde or Billy Sheehan way but we should not overestimate the problem.
The new Schaller are very sturdy, but also very pointy. Also they don't mix and match very well with the old generation pins. They just slide off! Be careful. I might try the click ones, because I always take off the strap for transport.
The schallers crews are very thick and had no idea you nedded to pre drill the hole with painters tape to avoide damaging my fender starcaster. I wish the video Schaller had for installation explained this. They just tell you to push it in.
I am using Schaller straplocks, but the problem is that when I secure the cable by placing it between the strap and the body of my bass guitar, there is too much distance between the strap and the body, so the cable will slide and not protect the input jack as well. On an other bass I have the cheap Dunlop plastic straplocks and I actually prefer them for that reason.
Wrap it twice. Loop it and then tighten it. This works for me on 1 of my basses. On my elcheapo 12 string my strap is an old dog leash. 1 end is a clasp. To hold it on always I ziptied the clasp tight around the end pin. The other end is a bootlace string loop around nut area. Works out so good I bicycle ride this guitar 2 miles to the beach all the time. Never have any problems in 6 yrs. Shopping on Ebay I found some Chinese cheap junk for bid starting at $3.00. Nobody else bid so $3.00 it is. Now I wouldn't use these on any super nice guitar but I only paid $ 80 for my bass. I really starting to love this $80 bass so I keep a close eye on these junk locks. No problem in 2 yrs. But I don't play with the bass everyday. Also I leave my straps off my guitars except for 12 string. Unless I'm playing out somewhere.
They work well too. The ends of the strap are pretty stiff (thanks to the locking mechanism inside) which can be weird for some, but overall I've heard good things about them. Someone modified it slightly to work with acoustic guitars with the end-pin jack. That's impressive. //cheers, Kris
I have two Lock-it straps, one on a Les Paul and one on a Jazz Bass. They locking ends work reliably, though the length of the strap is nothing special. However the locking ends have left minor circular marks on my Les Paul.
Using the same screw as originally installed on the guitar might be an issue if one is going to use an extra thick, padded strap. With something like that one would need to use a longer screw to facilitate the screw going to the end of the threads reach. I wonder what your take on this matter?
I'm glad they work for you. I took them off my basses in less than a day. I got a faulty one where one of the little ball ends was so flimsy it was spinning. Needless to say, I did get a replacement but I had zero faith in them. Their lbs rating is lower than ANY other strap lock system and I've read horror stories online where they simply broke down. That said, I don't like any of the strap lock systems anyways (screw torque is larger because strap ends are always physically further and mechanical things can simply break in time), so I just use a good strap that hold well on the strap pin. Had zero issues in over 10 years of live playing without using strap locks. The only time my bass fell off my strap was when I had Schaller strap locks (older ones). That said, plenty of people like strap locks. I haven't found a system I liked yet, always find too many cons.
The Schaller s-locks have the biggo "Gibson sized" screws. The Grovers have a little narrower screw (more like something Fender would use). //cheers, Kris
and how about ... for Acoustics Guitars with the endpin that is too thick for regular straps .... cause the cable plug and the strap lock is the same pin !!!! i'm having such a strugle to fing a guitar strap that fit !!! any suggestions ???? Pleassseee Thank you Greetings from Portugal Stay Safe & Keep Rockin'
What about layers and layers of duct tape? 🤙 Great Episode, love the vibe and it feels like you're having a lot fun at what you're doing there. Keep it coming!
1:45 The Dunlop Ergo Lock plastic gimmicks are the worst, they came in a pack of three. Imagine buying a pair of shoes but they sell you three shoes. One of them were stiff to turn, the other was too lose. They did not fit my Murphy Lab Les Paul as the vintage strap buttons are relativly small They did not fit a bass with a bigger size strap button either The package needs to be unboxed with scissor, if one does not like them, they can't be returned due to the plastic package design It did not feel safe to use them, as there is no mechanism to assure they do not turn/losen while being attached One of them almost broke due to the poor notch design They are not that cheap either for what they are Horrible gimmicks that totally belong in the bin
I've been using the metal ones and my biggest problem is that they pull out of the body, so I want to swap to the rubber ones but I'm a punk guitar player and I swing my guitar around alot, are the rubber ones safe enough for me?
I was hoping you'll install that huge screw. 😂 When I bought my guitar it had similar as top strap button to prevent falling of the strap and improve balance. It looked hilarious but almost destroyed the strap
Yeah they started doing that which is annoying. Grab a few more while you can and if you run out check out the Dunlop Ergo Lok. (www.thomann.de/intl/dunlop_straplok_ergo_lok.htm) It's awesome and lasts forever. I use them on most of my guitars and not even guitar spins managed to break them. Haha //Kris
I used to use DiMarzio ClipLocks and Schaller S-Locks. The ClipLocks were annyoing due to the limited amount of options available and the S-Locks were noisy and were protruding quite a lot. I since switchted to Loxx Security Locks, they are much lower profile than the S-Locks and have no rattle or other noise and they work perfectly with my Richter strap.
BOOM! Haha! It all depends on what is important for you, isn't it? Super sturdy metal lock, or low profile strap lock? All the safety or just enough safety. Luckily we have a lot of choices. :) Cheers //Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Yup. The plastic clip tends to dig into the body in gig bags and cases. It’s not an issue on guitars with solid/poly finishes but oh boy does it wear in nicely on thinner/matte finishes (both stained ones and nitro). I actually like how they relic the body but some people can’t stand them for the same reason!
I've been using old shaller locks for over 10 years, had installed the buttons on two of my guitars. I just got a new guitar, and while looking for the buttons, I thought I'll give this new version a try. Putting the button and the screw into one piece is really a bad design choice. It might save some cost on productions, but for the customers, it limits the usage. The screws were larger than what I had for my guitar. (Larger and longer threads). This will crack your finish bad if you don't drill before putting them on! They really should have allowed users to choose already existing screws if needed. This is really a dumb choice IMO. Also, the one of the locks pull is very sticky and it's really hard to unlock. I think this is poor quality control. Maybe it will loosen up overtime, but it is really rigid and hard to unlock right now. I do give some credit for its rattle free design as they advertised. But overall I am very disappointed. I trusted the Shaller name, and went for it despite there are many other cheaper third party parts out there. Now I think maybe I should have gone for that with out paying premium for their name. I'd adivse anyone who's looking to get this one just to go older style locks, or at lease older style buttons.
Leider hat sich das mit den Gummiring von Plöp Bier Flaschen, schon vor Jahren rumgesprochen. So das mehrerer Firmen, dazu über gegangen sind, ihre Gummi Ringe, durch Harte Plastik Ringe, die dazu noch fest mit dem Verschluss verbunden. So das sie wirklich nicht mehr, als „Gurt Sicherung“ , zu verwenden sind. Was ja Sinn u Zweck, dieser Aktion war.
You never remove your strap? Fine, for each end a felt washer for between the instrument and strap, and a metal washer against the strap. Just run the screw through that and it won't come off and is about as low profile as you can get. I use the Schaller strap locks, I don't lean my babies against an amp or wall where they can fall and get hurt. Buzzing? Who can hear buzzing strap locks when jamming out? That's nit picking. Edit: My first strap lock was leather. You used the above method to mount it to the instrument. It had a strap button on it and another leather piece that you put on after the strap to prevent the strap coming off. Works on any strap that works on the instrument. No strap ever came off of it, but I bought in in 1984 and it started showing it's age so I went Schaller in something like 2009 I think.
Honestly the one straplock that's never failed me, ever, is a rubber ring from a Grolsch bugle bottle.
Taking one off a bottle doesn’t do it for good. I order bags of these rubber seals of different sizes for bottling Homebrew. They split after a few uses. But using new ones out of the plastic bag seems like the way to go??
@TwoDot I gave most of a 100 count bag of Groelch washers to the local music store where my grandson and I are taking guitar lessons. These new washers are the way to go. They will parcel them out to kids as needed!
Yes!!
Dunlop metal locks are the best
I have the "beer bottle" style rubber seal locks. I used to keep both locks on all the time. I have one strap and a single bass. However, I started transporting my bass regularly. And I found that the top strap was a nuisance to constantly add/remove all the time. So, I just use a single strap lock on the bottom. Keeps it sturdy and safe. The upper strap is generally the safer one w/out a lock. And, now when I put my Sire M7 into it's hardcase... I remove the upper strap and just lay it in the case. Works great.
Came on the channel for Julia, stayed and subscribed for everything else!
Nice job with these videos!
A tip for the rubber strap blocks (Fender, Ernie Ball etc): after playing or removing your strap simply leave them on the buttons so they stay with your guitar for next time! I can’t tell you how many of those I’ve lost at gigs.
Awesome tip, thanks man! //Kris
0:40 Holy moly!! You mentioned this at the beginning of the video?? No way! Every other channel skips it entirely! This is way too useful, sir. You are going to put all the other channels out of a job
I really appreciate that man! This is a very common issue and we face it a lot in the workshop at Thomann. We try to inform everyone about this to avoid being unhappy with their guitars. Cheers //Kris
Do you have any straplock recommendation that will fit on a Harley Benton DC guitar? Like you say, the HB original screwhead does not fit in the strap lock HB unfortunately (and the HB straplock screw do not fit in the predrilled hole in the HB guitar.)@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses
Most of mine have the Dunlop cheapy locks and have been great for years. I have the Schaller on my Gretsch though. Love that bass! Sweeeeeeeettttt!😊👍
I have used 2-inch safety pins on the bottom buttons as strap locks, and they have yet to fail me. My old lead singer installed Dunlop locks on my Washburn, and I've never liked them. Keep it simple, and love this video!
I vote schaller S locks…quality and good finishes….sturdy and retaining compression ring design perfect for thicker suede straps…look good….easy on / off…the ultimate winner.
0:24 was shocked to get called out like that😂😂 Keytars can rock just as much as guitars and bass in the right hands!!❤️🤍🖤
I use Loxx strap locks on every guitar I own. They are much smaller than the Schaller style U-channel locks, so they don't tear up your case or gig bag. You also don't have to fumble around to find the right orientation in order to get the lock out of the U-channel to take the strap off. I've never had one fail me.
My vote goes for the Schaller! Especially since they now fixed the biggest issue, which was the nut on the strap getting loose over time, needing you to regularly ensure it is still tight. I still have the older model on my guitars, I did put a dab of superglue underneath the nut to ensure it won't get loose. But it's nice to know it's not an issue anymore.
I used Dunlop for years but my sweat seems to be very corrosive which leads to rusting of some of the inner components. Grolsch caps all the way, just can’t do cool srv behind the back switches but sure beats the alternative
I used Schaller, but I moved to the beer seals. Work perfectly even with heavy basses
Great video, I myself use the Jim Dunlop straploks and I'm very happy about them. Although I was a little bit concerned about drilling a wider and deeper hole into my bass it went down pretty nicely.
My j custom came with something similar to the shaller and its super secure but playing sitting in the classical position for more than 3 mins is really painful because it digs into my thigh. Im going with the rubber rings as a replacement. I appreciate your videos sir🫡🫡
Think I'll go with the simple Fender locks. It's a gift for my friend who plays bass and she's had a strap issue in some recent gigs. Bread fan at the end was a nice surprise too!
I used to use strap locks in my late teens, early 20's because I was jumping around on stage like a madman. But, the Schallers always ripped out. Even after refilling the holes with the toothpicks and wood glue trick.
If you think about it, what is the purpose of the claw of a hammer? It's used to pull nails. The old Schallers I had rattled and put a lot of pressure over time on the screws.
Honestly, just buying wide, quality $40-100 leather straps solved the back issues I was having and good leather is so stiff, and stays stiff longer, I haven't had an issue since. It made me wonder why I used $10 straps to hold my investments?
I also leave straps on as much as possible, so they stay stiff around the strap button.
Also the Schaller's dinged up my guitars because it's a metal piece on a flimsy band when you take it off.
Also, if you have to use a $10 strap, just replace it when the leather is flimsy. My bass and accoustic strings usually cost more than a cheap strap, why did I think I shouldn't invest in good straps?
I've got harley benton strap locks on my bass. Works great for me but admittedly I don't try and spin it round my back like an idiot.
Plastic Bread bag clips were my first strap locks, I’ve moved to the Schaller style, I need to look at the rattle free ones.
Rubber 🦭 spotted randomly leaving adhesive residue with some kind of scented stickers!
I was just about to drill holes into my beautiful new Harley Benton TE-62 DB LPB (terrible name. Beautiful guitar) to fit new Dunlop strap lock pins. Then RUclips saw fit to play me this video. Top tip - use the old screws if they fit. Which of course they do!
Really simple tip but one that had not occurred to me in my enthusiasm to fit my strap.
My guitar thanks you for sparing it from unnecessary surgery!
i got a pair of "Daddario Dual Lock PW-DLC-01", they work like the o-rings, cost like 3-4 euros at Thomann. Easy to put on and remove, steady on use. Love em.
I'm glad you showcased the simple locks. That's what I'm looking for. My instrument is heavy and the problem I have with the more advanced locking systems is that the hardware holds the strap out further from the body. It acts like a cantilever and the screw ends up bending. I prefer the strap right up against the body.
I moved to D'Addario Lockin Straps, they work great even on my Schaller Pins. Only exception are the big PRS pins on these I use the Ernie Ball Strap which I got fro free at the Thomann Store :-)
2:50 i don't know about the fender strap block, but the one from daddario is REALLY easy to put on and off. It takes literally one second and zero effort to change guitars and straps.
I have 2 sets of Schaller S locks. They're pretty and made of good German steel.
If you are over the age of 21, buy a 4 pack of Grosh for all you strap lock needs.
Yeah, free beer with your straplocks !! ftw.
I‘m using the rubber rings of bottles and never had a problem but some cool beer every now and then 😉 Cheers 🤘🏻😎🍻
I’ve got one custom strap and three basses,I like the Ernie ball locks but you can’t buy just the lock buttons on their own so you have to buy three sets of locks,I think Schaller sell just the button part
Cool video. You covered the practical issues. It’s not about market share or specs, it’s about not dropping the damn guitar.
I like to use Schaller locks, but might use the „cheap“ locks you presented on my hagstrom super swede.
On my Sire bass, one of the Schaller locks gets loose very easily, no matter how hard I screw it back on. The screw sits tight then, but after 2 hours of playing it’s loose again.
So a good topic now would be to show how to fix washed out screw holes. :)
If you never want to take that strap pin out again, put some wood glue in the hole and then screw back in the pin. If you want to be able to take it off some time, put a wooden dowel that fights the hole tight in there hole with some wood glue, when securely dried, drill a pilot hole and then screw the strap pin back in
Take a toothpick and break it off in the hole. Then screw into it. If it's still loose use 2. Wooden toothpicks only.
@@sparkyguitar0058 I did that with a Sire bass and Shallers - worked a charm 👍
I use the schallers in my best bass. In the others I pick 2 plastic coca-cola caps, put a nice hole in the middle with a solder Iron an trace a triangular route off of the center. Works fine, and comes a pair for free after 2 coca-colas, so I got to change it regularly.
When I realized how much better the Schaller s locks are compared to every other solution, I even went back to guitars that already had strap locks on them and replaced those.
I did the same, but with D'Addario Planet Lock straps.
Can you talk about solutions to neck dive?
I have always been happy with my Schallers. But the latest generation _twists_ against the strap for some weird reason. This is quite annoying, as the opening of the lock often points sideways to the point of almost looking downwards. I screwed them in with all my might and fixed the securing screw like I should. Still, they don't stay put.
I would really be grateful for any ideas on what might cause this.
The problem is this so-called silent feature...the bolts on the strap pieces that fit into the pins are thicker now, so that the locks can't rattle anymore. At the same time, the locks also won't rotate properly anymore and constantly get stuck in the wrong position. So instead of the locks rotating, your strap will rotate between the parts that are holding it and thus get damaged. The old design was so much better.
@@jimblowbullet I did not know that. Thanks for the info.
@@Noone-of-your-Business You're welcome. :) I have to admit I actually just read up on that somewhere else because that issue wouldn't stop annoying me^^
I use both the rubber rings and the Dunlop locks and I have seen Clapton using the Dunlop locks on his strats so, um that is good enough for me..lol..great video ! thanks
Beer strap locks are the best. You get them for free just buying beer. And actually they are pretty safe. And one more hack. If you don't drink beer and don't have friends who do, go to Walmart or special store for plumbers and get some plumbing seals. They cost almost nothing and they are black :)
Gonna save this one on my faves! So well explained 👌
Thank you, your explanation helps me a lot.
Creo que la elección es muy personal. El schaller es muy bueno y hermoso. Dimarzio es segurísimo también. Excelente video...👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤟🏻👏🏻
Is the ErnieBall Security Lock compatible with StingRay screwhole?
Chris, LOXX are from Germany?
They are very strong, quick and easy .
Super low profile, and don’t poke you, or stick out like an antenna !😅
If the strap threads back out, the guitar stays firmly attached.
Why omission of the Marvel lock supplied fitted with some of Harley Benton model guitars. e.g. SC Custom?
With D’Margio clip locks when the guitar body has the intake flush is that stronger?
This applies to any Instrument that has Strap pegs. The Keytar is actually a very Popular one because this allowed Keyboard players to play standing up.
It allows keyboard players to move around like a guitar player. Playing a keyboard standing up is done all the time, have a look at any electro band live.
@@ExternalInputs The Accordion allowed Keyboardists to do that too.
The old Schaller locks are available from Fender and Guitar Fetish. The buttons are available separately too.
I bought black rubber rings from a brewery. Was cheap and better than all the expensive stuff I tried out. There is also a Zakk Wylde or Billy Sheehan way but we should not overestimate the problem.
The new Schaller are very sturdy, but also very pointy. Also they don't mix and match very well with the old generation pins. They just slide off! Be careful. I might try the click ones, because I always take off the strap for transport.
Ich nehme einfach die Thomann/HB locks. Sehr günstig und funktionieren einwandfrei. Wenn's passt, sollte man die Originalschrauben nutzen!
Originalschrauben sind immer am besten (wenn der Kopf in dem Locking Pin passt).
ciao!
//Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Ja, so sieht's aus ;)
Thank you this helped so much
The schallers crews are very thick and had no idea you nedded to pre drill the hole with painters tape to avoide damaging my fender starcaster. I wish the video Schaller had for installation explained this. They just tell you to push it in.
I use Dunlop plastic strap locks an D'addario auto lock strap
I am using Schaller straplocks, but the problem is that when I secure the cable by placing it between the strap and the body of my bass guitar, there is too much distance between the strap and the body, so the cable will slide and not protect the input jack as well. On an other bass I have the cheap Dunlop plastic straplocks and I actually prefer them for that reason.
Wrap it twice. Loop it and then tighten it. This works for me on 1 of my basses. On my elcheapo 12 string my strap is an old dog leash. 1 end is a clasp. To hold it on always I ziptied the clasp tight around the end pin. The other end is a bootlace string loop around nut area. Works out so good I bicycle ride this guitar 2 miles to the beach all the time. Never have any problems in 6 yrs. Shopping on Ebay I found some Chinese cheap junk for bid starting at $3.00. Nobody else bid so $3.00 it is. Now I wouldn't use these on any super nice guitar but I only paid $ 80 for my bass. I really starting to love this $80 bass so I keep a close eye on these junk locks. No problem in 2 yrs. But I don't play with the bass everyday. Also I leave my straps off my guitars except for 12 string. Unless I'm playing out somewhere.
What about Lock-it straps? Do they work reliably?
They work well too. The ends of the strap are pretty stiff (thanks to the locking mechanism inside) which can be weird for some, but overall I've heard good things about them. Someone modified it slightly to work with acoustic guitars with the end-pin jack. That's impressive.
//cheers, Kris
I have two Lock-it straps, one on a Les Paul and one on a Jazz Bass. They locking ends work reliably, though the length of the strap is nothing special. However the locking ends have left minor circular marks on my Les Paul.
Using the same screw as originally installed on the guitar might be an issue if one is going to use an extra thick, padded strap. With something like that one would need to use a longer screw to facilitate the screw going to the end of the threads reach. I wonder what your take on this matter?
I got Schallers on almost all of mine. I wish they made locking pins that would look good on a Höfner bass without changing the vintage ivory look.
LOXX is the best system I've ever tried. They're also made in Germany 🤘🏼
+1 They are the most low profile mechanism I've tried so far
Agree, they are the best. Super low profile, easy on and off, and extremely secure.
I'm glad they work for you. I took them off my basses in less than a day. I got a faulty one where one of the little ball ends was so flimsy it was spinning. Needless to say, I did get a replacement but I had zero faith in them. Their lbs rating is lower than ANY other strap lock system and I've read horror stories online where they simply broke down. That said, I don't like any of the strap lock systems anyways (screw torque is larger because strap ends are always physically further and mechanical things can simply break in time), so I just use a good strap that hold well on the strap pin. Had zero issues in over 10 years of live playing without using strap locks. The only time my bass fell off my strap was when I had Schaller strap locks (older ones). That said, plenty of people like strap locks. I haven't found a system I liked yet, always find too many cons.
@@nunocarmona You related to Ozzy Carmona? He is one of the instructors in the Fender Play Online course.
Ernie Ball Strap Blocks are the best for me ... cheap, rugged & they don’t require any modifications to your guitar/bass
You also forget,planet waves planet lock straps and ernie ball polylock strap,its great too
The rattling was what always annoyed me a lot. But I am still using Schallers - so good to know they are now silent ;)
will the schaller s locks fit with the gibson les paul standard 60s?
Which one has the bigger screw dunlop's or s-lock's one?
The Schaller s-locks have the biggo "Gibson sized" screws. The Grovers have a little narrower screw (more like something Fender would use).
//cheers, Kris
Thanks for acknowledging us keytar players. That's the reason I'm here 😂
I have a dunlop, but they sometimes give a rattle, I think to change to something simpler
and how about ... for Acoustics Guitars with the endpin that is too thick for regular straps .... cause the cable plug and the strap lock is the same pin !!!!
i'm having such a strugle to fing a guitar strap that fit !!!
any suggestions ???? Pleassseee
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Can I out on/off strap on guitar on fly with Schaller locks?
yep, you can swap them stupid fast. pull the button out to disengage the lock and slide down
What about layers and layers of duct tape? 🤙 Great Episode, love the vibe and it feels like you're having a lot fun at what you're doing there. Keep it coming!
I bought a Bass that was layered in duct tape on the strap
I have Ibanez sa260 what kind of strap locks compatible with my guitar?
Fender Straps are nice...but very hard to setup when using a leather thick strap....By the way, is it a sacrilege to use on a Gibson ? :D
I mean... I use Fender pure nickel strings on my Gibson so... I guess you'll be fine with the Fender strap ring. Haha! Cheers //Kris
thanks for the explanation :)
I really wish thomann would start selling Göldo EP13 strap pins. I got plenty of straps with locks on them but even more guitars that need cheap pins
I use the fender rubber rings on my every instrument
I found the Grolsch work better actually. Plus they give you an excuse to drink at least two bottles.
Loxx strap locks work wonders. Proven throughout the years. IMO they beat others.
Nice Sandberg!!!!!!!
1:45 The Dunlop Ergo Lock plastic gimmicks are the worst, they came in a pack of three.
Imagine buying a pair of shoes but they sell you three shoes.
One of them were stiff to turn, the other was too lose.
They did not fit my Murphy Lab Les Paul as the vintage strap buttons are relativly small
They did not fit a bass with a bigger size strap button either
The package needs to be unboxed with scissor, if one does not like them, they can't be returned due to the plastic package design
It did not feel safe to use them, as there is no mechanism to assure they do not turn/losen while being attached
One of them almost broke due to the poor notch design
They are not that cheap either for what they are
Horrible gimmicks that totally belong in the bin
there's only one strap i trust: DiMarzio's, no mechanical noises, impossible to unlock
Dunlop inset flush mount strap locks
the rubber ring made the screws on my guitar spin and enlarge the holes, becoming loose.
I've been using the metal ones and my biggest problem is that they pull out of the body, so I want to swap to the rubber ones but I'm a punk guitar player and I swing my guitar around alot, are the rubber ones safe enough for me?
For me a huge con of strap locks is the strap twists all the time. That doesn’t happen with the rubber washers. That’s why I like them.
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Thanks! :D (just to stick to the T's)
//cheers, Kris
I was hoping you'll install that huge screw. 😂
When I bought my guitar it had similar as top strap button to prevent falling of the strap and improve balance. It looked hilarious but almost destroyed the strap
Using THAT screw for a strap? No thanks. That'd be like using a two-handed battle axe to slice bread. :D
//cheers, Kris
I wanted to use some beer bottle rubber ring but they glued the ring tight..
Yeah they started doing that which is annoying. Grab a few more while you can and if you run out check out the Dunlop Ergo Lok. (www.thomann.de/intl/dunlop_straplok_ergo_lok.htm)
It's awesome and lasts forever. I use them on most of my guitars and not even guitar spins managed to break them. Haha //Kris
Oversize strap buttons are the most elegant, simplistic solution. Wean yourself off gadget-gimmicks. Well-Hung Pro-Pins
Thank you my Fender lock broke last night.
I ordered the rubber rings
I used to use DiMarzio ClipLocks and Schaller S-Locks.
The ClipLocks were annyoing due to the limited amount of options available and the S-Locks were noisy and were protruding quite a lot.
I since switchted to Loxx Security Locks, they are much lower profile than the S-Locks and have no rattle or other noise and they work perfectly with my Richter strap.
I have schallers on my goldtop
you just saved me a few bucks. I was just about to buy an auto locking strap, but I'll just buy those rubber rings. Boom!
BOOM! Haha! It all depends on what is important for you, isn't it? Super sturdy metal lock, or low profile strap lock? All the safety or just enough safety. Luckily we have a lot of choices. :) Cheers //Kris
Another nice video. Still waiting for the nut replace video. Best regards
Black rubber washers from a hardware store. Never had an issue.
Dunlop Straplok Flush Mount
DiMarzio is the best. Helps with relicing, too hahaha
Haha! Do you mean the plastic clip? I never used it myself, that's why I'm asking. :)
//Kris
@@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Yup. The plastic clip tends to dig into the body in gig bags and cases. It’s not an issue on guitars with solid/poly finishes but oh boy does it wear in nicely on thinner/matte finishes (both stained ones and nitro). I actually like how they relic the body but some people can’t stand them for the same reason!
I've been using old shaller locks for over 10 years, had installed the buttons on two of my guitars.
I just got a new guitar, and while looking for the buttons, I thought I'll give this new version a try.
Putting the button and the screw into one piece is really a bad design choice. It might save some cost on productions, but for the customers, it limits the usage. The screws were larger than what I had for my guitar. (Larger and longer threads). This will crack your finish bad if you don't drill before putting them on!
They really should have allowed users to choose already existing screws if needed. This is really a dumb choice IMO.
Also, the one of the locks pull is very sticky and it's really hard to unlock. I think this is poor quality control. Maybe it will loosen up overtime, but it is really rigid and hard to unlock right now.
I do give some credit for its rattle free design as they advertised. But overall I am very disappointed. I trusted the Shaller name, and went for it despite there are many other cheaper third party parts out there. Now I think maybe I should have gone for that with out paying premium for their name. I'd adivse anyone who's looking to get this one just to go older style locks, or at lease older style buttons.
Leider hat sich das mit den Gummiring von Plöp Bier Flaschen, schon vor Jahren rumgesprochen. So das mehrerer Firmen, dazu über gegangen sind, ihre Gummi Ringe, durch Harte Plastik Ringe, die dazu noch fest mit dem Verschluss verbunden. So das sie wirklich nicht mehr, als „Gurt Sicherung“ , zu verwenden sind. Was ja Sinn u Zweck, dieser Aktion war.
Never even thought of the fact you can't put it on the ground with the schallers. Ill keep that in mind
Ain't trusting my $1.5k USA fender jazz to a beer bottle gasket.
Schaller forever
You never remove your strap? Fine, for each end a felt washer for between the instrument and strap, and a metal washer against the strap. Just run the screw through that and it won't come off and is about as low profile as you can get. I use the Schaller strap locks, I don't lean my babies against an amp or wall where they can fall and get hurt. Buzzing? Who can hear buzzing strap locks when jamming out? That's nit picking.
Edit: My first strap lock was leather. You used the above method to mount it to the instrument. It had a strap button on it and another leather piece that you put on after the strap to prevent the strap coming off. Works on any strap that works on the instrument. No strap ever came off of it, but I bought in in 1984 and it started showing it's age so I went Schaller in something like 2009 I think.
Sir. U didn't show how to install any of the locks
It helps!)