As an individual who's getting ready to close on a 2024 Range Rover Sport V8, I have to say that the content in this remarkable video is significantly invaluable and well worth the price of admission! Once I realized that JLR dealerships regarded their internal Service Depts' as _primary_ income generators (even over Sales) and coupled with the highest labor costs in the industry, I was done with them. Their Corp. marching orders & mantra is _Replace First / Repair Second_ . So, well done, mate! Keep up your fantastic transparency reporting on RR general maintenance & repair.....👍👏
I bought a Range Rover Sport when it was 7 years old, from a Land Rover Dealer. I had it 2 years, did 35,000 miles in it and over the period only had to replace a rear calliper and a sensor on the exhaust. Plus routine servicing. Used a local LR specialist who was brilliant. Like you mentioned, their attitude was to diagnose properly, repair if possible and if not, then replace. I have found over the 30 years of driving that main dealers of all brands don't have mechanics that repair. They are just people who know how to swap parts. My wife has a VW and the local dealer is so bad that when her car needed an air con compressor under warranty, it took 4 weeks for them to get a technician in from one of their other dealerships who weas trained highly enough to do the job. 100% agree with you, find an independent specialist who is recommended as they will value you and your business.
I am picking my range rover sport 2014 up on 24th i have paid 3.100 for a warranty wise cover including timing chain whitch i am guessing has not been done might b wrong but for a 3 yr cover at that price am happy. Still nervous about its 1st service but it has just been serviced m.o.t so got a yr to carry on putting money to one side for so it's not such a kick in the nuts. Follow on it's now a week after getting my sport and the biggest problem is the scratches on the paint work a lot worse than i realise. So far nr/ heated mirror not working condensation on rear lense.
Landrover need specialist tools and equipments to maintain, particularly the computer to reset certain functions and features. Most good LR specific garages are happy to install parts supplied by the customer. There are many LR that are well over 150-200k miles and are long-term purchases. The added advantage is that there are A LOT of parts suppliers for LR in the uk at reasonable prices. These cars are worth the money, insurance rises are temporary and they are environmentally friendly if you consider the lifecycle cost of one! Most owners will drive one for over ten years!❤😂
My experience with Land Rover main agent was the same. They overcharge for as many parts as they possibly can. Anything the diagnostic scan finds they insist needs a complete replacement.
I agree about checking the dealer to use. I have used the same dealer for my cars over a space of 30 years. They train and retain staff, I see the same names on the paperwork, MOT etc. for decades. They give me the heads up when things are going to need attention and aren't imminent. The rates are much lower than you mentioned. For some labour intensive items I use a specialist, they can spend a little more time investigating and fixing niggles too. Sometimes the dealer is booked out and can't look at something for days.
I have a 2013 RR Sport with just under 130,000 kms on the clock and have had no issues over the last 55,000 kms of ownership. I take it to my regular mechanic who (luckily?) has an ex LR mechanic on the team and they maintain it to a high standard. He has looked after many "problematic" cars I have owned over the years (numerous Alfa Romeo, Renault, BMW etc)and all fixed easily. I think there is a fallacy that these cars are rubbish and fall to bits - that has not been my experience at all. I had a Discovery TD5 and drove that to 268,000 kms and it only stranded me twice - a broken alternator and a flat battery which will happen to any car. as an all round car this RRS is fab
I have had two Rangerovers over the past 15 years and agree the specialist non franchise repairer has served me well. Had one issue where their non landrover computer corrupted my rear tail gate operation. I had to go to main dealer who replaced modules, cost a lot of money but still could not get top rear door to close on auto, so still have to pull top door closed manually. My L405 still running well at 10 years old, here in New Zealand. my rear top tailgate will close with key operation if i leave the car to shut down, but not straight awau, a real mystery
Thank you mate. Great info yet again. I’m a new subscriber and potential Range Rover buyer and, like you, I don’t have a blank cheque to look after one - that is if I bite the bullet and go for it! My problem is my location, Northern Ireland. Not only are there few Range Rover specialists here, there are just a few ‘dealerships’. And yet there are lots of Range Rovers running about here. And I do mean LOTS!! Anyone I have spoken to that owns one, loves them, as you do. With a growing family of grandchildren I would probably be looking for a 7-seater though. I doubt I would find one here, so that would probably call for a road trip and you are the first person I would be coming to! You can count on that. Best regards from the Giant’s Causeway coast of Northern Ireland. 😄👍☘️
Very good info . Bit long winded . But yes a specialist B L R C here in n ireland . Main dealer send there stuff to them and half the price as you say . Saintfield great to have them kind
I'm amazed the number of people who insist on going to the main dealer with a 6 year old car and then scream about the running costs. I have a small local mechanic who I've known for decades. They're more than capable of changing the oil, swapping filters and popping a brake pad on. When they feel they're out of their comfort zone, they have an army of experts they can ask or send the car to. Worst case, there are loads of very good specialists who give an excellent service and know their subject. But more than that. Cars suffer from different issues as they age. Dealers are 'experts' on cars that are 1-4 years old. Specialists are experts on older cars so when something goes awry, who's likely to know more about it? Who's likely to have seen an age or mileage related issue before? Any car can be run for sensible money if you follow these simple rules. Join a forum Get a decent mechanic Don't be afraid to have a go yourself (unless you're a liability obviously) . It may have a fancy badge but it's still just clips and bolts at the end of the day.
ive had the 3.0 and the engine needed replacing after 45k. my second 4.4 V8 went through 2 transfer boxes from new. The reliability is shocking and its part of the reason they are worthless
Must be something YOU are doing (or not doing). I've had many more Range Rovers than that over some 30 years. The most expensive repair ever was a worn driveshaft.
As an individual who's getting ready to close on a 2024 Range Rover Sport V8, I have to say that the content in this remarkable video is significantly invaluable and well worth the price of admission! Once I realized that JLR dealerships regarded their internal Service Depts' as _primary_ income generators (even over Sales) and coupled with the highest labor costs in the industry, I was done with them. Their Corp. marching orders & mantra is _Replace First / Repair Second_ . So, well done, mate! Keep up your fantastic transparency reporting on RR general maintenance & repair.....👍👏
Appreciate that! More coming, thanks for the support 👍
I bought a Range Rover Sport when it was 7 years old, from a Land Rover Dealer. I had it 2 years, did 35,000 miles in it and over the period only had to replace a rear calliper and a sensor on the exhaust. Plus routine servicing. Used a local LR specialist who was brilliant. Like you mentioned, their attitude was to diagnose properly, repair if possible and if not, then replace. I have found over the 30 years of driving that main dealers of all brands don't have mechanics that repair. They are just people who know how to swap parts. My wife has a VW and the local dealer is so bad that when her car needed an air con compressor under warranty, it took 4 weeks for them to get a technician in from one of their other dealerships who weas trained highly enough to do the job. 100% agree with you, find an independent specialist who is recommended as they will value you and your business.
I have a 2014 RR sport autobiography for 4 years. its been a pleasure to be honest. for sub 20k its the best 4x4 out there.
I am picking my range rover sport 2014 up on 24th i have paid 3.100 for a warranty wise cover including timing chain whitch i am guessing has not been done might b wrong but for a 3 yr cover at that price am happy. Still nervous about its 1st service but it has just been serviced m.o.t so got a yr to carry on putting money to one side for so it's not such a kick in the nuts.
Follow on it's now a week after getting my sport and the biggest problem is the scratches on the paint work a lot worse than i realise. So far nr/ heated mirror not working condensation on rear lense.
Landrover need specialist tools and equipments to maintain, particularly the computer to reset certain functions and features. Most good LR specific garages are happy to install parts supplied by the customer. There are many LR that are well over 150-200k miles and are long-term purchases. The added advantage is that there are A LOT of parts suppliers for LR in the uk at reasonable prices. These cars are worth the money, insurance rises are temporary and they are environmentally friendly if you consider the lifecycle cost of one! Most owners will drive one for over ten years!❤😂
My experience with Land Rover main agent was the same. They overcharge for as many parts as they possibly can. Anything the diagnostic scan finds they insist needs a complete replacement.
I agree about checking the dealer to use. I have used the same dealer for my cars over a space of 30 years. They train and retain staff, I see the same names on the paperwork, MOT etc. for decades. They give me the heads up when things are going to need attention and aren't imminent. The rates are much lower than you mentioned. For some labour intensive items I use a specialist, they can spend a little more time investigating and fixing niggles too. Sometimes the dealer is booked out and can't look at something for days.
I have a 2013 RR Sport with just under 130,000 kms on the clock and have had no issues over the last 55,000 kms of ownership. I take it to my regular mechanic who (luckily?) has an ex LR mechanic on the team and they maintain it to a high standard. He has looked after many "problematic" cars I have owned over the years (numerous Alfa Romeo, Renault, BMW etc)and all fixed easily. I think there is a fallacy that these cars are rubbish and fall to bits - that has not been my experience at all. I had a Discovery TD5 and drove that to 268,000 kms and it only stranded me twice - a broken alternator and a flat battery which will happen to any car. as an all round car this RRS is fab
I have had two Rangerovers over the past 15 years and agree the specialist non franchise repairer has served me well. Had one issue where their non landrover computer corrupted my rear tail gate operation. I had to go to main dealer who replaced modules, cost a lot of money but still could not get top rear door to close on auto, so still have to pull top door closed manually. My L405 still running well at 10 years old, here in New Zealand. my rear top tailgate will close with key operation if i leave the car to shut down, but not straight awau, a real mystery
Thank you mate. Great info yet again. I’m a new subscriber and potential Range Rover buyer and, like you, I don’t have a blank cheque to look after one - that is if I bite the bullet and go for it! My problem is my location, Northern Ireland. Not only are there few Range Rover specialists here, there are just a few ‘dealerships’. And yet there are lots of Range Rovers running about here. And I do mean LOTS!! Anyone I have spoken to that owns one, loves them, as you do. With a growing family of grandchildren I would probably be looking for a 7-seater though. I doubt I would find one here, so that would probably call for a road trip and you are the first person I would be coming to! You can count on that. Best regards from the Giant’s Causeway coast of Northern Ireland. 😄👍☘️
Absolutely superb 👏
Thanks pal appreciate the view and the comment 👍
Very good info . Bit long winded . But yes a specialist B L R C here in n ireland . Main dealer send there stuff to them and half the price as you say . Saintfield great to have them kind
Appreciate the watch and the feedback! 👍
I'm amazed the number of people who insist on going to the main dealer with a 6 year old car and then scream about the running costs.
I have a small local mechanic who I've known for decades. They're more than capable of changing the oil, swapping filters and popping a brake pad on. When they feel they're out of their comfort zone, they have an army of experts they can ask or send the car to.
Worst case, there are loads of very good specialists who give an excellent service and know their subject.
But more than that. Cars suffer from different issues as they age. Dealers are 'experts' on cars that are 1-4 years old. Specialists are experts on older cars so when something goes awry, who's likely to know more about it? Who's likely to have seen an age or mileage related issue before?
Any car can be run for sensible money if you follow these simple rules.
Join a forum
Get a decent mechanic
Don't be afraid to have a go yourself (unless you're a liability obviously) . It may have a fancy badge but it's still just clips and bolts at the end of the day.
ive had the 3.0 and the engine needed replacing after 45k. my second 4.4 V8 went through 2 transfer boxes from new. The reliability is shocking and its part of the reason they are worthless
Must be something YOU are doing (or not doing). I've had many more Range Rovers than that over some 30 years. The most expensive repair ever was a worn driveshaft.
Good thing about Landrover specialists, they have plenty of practice..
I’d disagree again. Specialist have to plenty of customers. They’re literally not bothered about new custom
"Tardis" inside out...