Tbh he might be worried about the wrong things. 5 things that actually sucks the most: 1. Knock sensor getting wet causing limp mode 2. Bad fuel injector 3. Clutch disc installed backwards 4. Launch control hard to activate 5. Wheel hop.
1. Once you get octane learning, just don't fill up beyond 100 miles (3 - 3.5 gallons) to empty and it will permanently stay learned, only downside is getting gas more often, but is that really such a big deal? View octane learning as something fun you can unlock rather than "this sucks" or you will simply not enjoy yourself. 2. If you wanted a huge gas tank why not just buy an SUV?? I don't understand the complaint about a track car that is trying to cut weight where it can especially when if you highway drive it can get 450 miles in eco on a tank. 3. There is a vent under the seat for the rear passengers and the car has remote start with climate control from an app so i'm not sure why this is a problem unless you don't have your windows tinted and live in Florida. Would it be nice to have? Yeah but it's not a deal breaker when the car is about having fun, not specific luxuries. 4. Completely agree with the piano black plastic, I don't understand why manufacturers choose it, it's like they want to punish you. 5. LED's for the interior would be nice from the factory, but hardly cost anything to do yourself and it at least gives you a sense of an easy MOD you can upgrade yourself and make your car unique to the rest of its kind. Should manufacturers do this across the board? Yeah but they would find every reason to say its a $1000 up charge... I have had my 2023 EN DCT for about 18 months and have amassed 12k miles of pure bliss. The golf R is nice, but to trying to compare it to a car that is 10-15k cheaper out the door is ludicrous.
Thanks for your input. I’m not comparing this car to my golf r. I had a 2022 MK8 GTI before the R (that’s less expensive than the EN) and I’m comparing it to that
i gotta say it man, it is a 5min process for octane learning or at least for me thats all it takes. im gonna make a list of thing i do before and during the octane learning so maybe some ppl find it helpful or actually help ppl to archive octane learning. **Before Start counting the 5 minutes countdown make sure you're: 1. 8th gear or 6th gear (DCT put on manual and never shift down to 7th for the entire 5min run, must be 8th gear and 8th gear alone) 2. be above 66mph or below 99mph 3. you can be normal mode, custom N mode, sport or eco mode (ive tried em all) as long as the above 2 rules are met. as soon as these 3 conditions are met, start your chrono or the car lap timer ( its what i use to make sure 5min have past) **when you start counting the 5mins u have to maintain there conditions : 1. keep your speed above 66mph o above 99mph ( as soon as u go below 65 o above 99, you have to reset your 5mins coutndown, ive tested this countless of times. It must be between those speed) 2. do not change gears, keep it in 8th (DCT) or 6th (manual) at all time during those 5min ( as soon as u downshift its over, and u have to reset your 5min timer) 3.Maintain these specifications for at least 5min and 20 or 30s. if you dont fail any of the conditions , i guaranteed your gonna octane learn in that time, after your lap timer reads 5:30. just stop it , downshift to 7th and floori it and watch those turbo PSI go to 18-19. something to mention, i live in PR (puerto rico) and i use 93 octane gas which is our premium gasoline, dont know if it work like this with a 91 ocatane as we dont have 91 here in PR. but ive been doing this "Oct learning" everytime i fill up the tank, my next commute to work i do it in the highway, since ive been doing it like this ive been able to octane learn the car 100 percent of the time 5min and 30 secs aprox. as long as i follow this sets of rule it have never failed me. i hope this help some ppl understand the process and makes it simple to octane learn for my fellows N thusiats out there.
The main problem with this is that the Octane Learning goes away when you shut the car off. I had my EN octane learned on full tank then left it parked at my place for an hour only for it to drop back to low boost psi again.
I hate the octane learning, too. I have the 2023 6-speed and it was frustrating and sometimes wouldn't work. I got a Lap 3 stage 1.5 tuned ECU and I get 20 PSI boost and don't have to worry about octane learning anymore. I also get over 300 whp, which is over 20% more - just from a tune and HKS sparkplugs on 93 octane! I don't have lights, bells, or whistles with this car but I never lose a race to a GTI. I smashed a Civic Type-R yesterday and when I was done it looked like a Type-awwww. :(
Don’t understand the logic - my 8th Gen accord coupe has 18.5 gallon tank with the V6. This is a 4 door and only 12.5 gallons? Don’t get it.. there should be plenty space for a larger tank…
I understand where you’re coming from and i’m frustrated with the size too but this is a track ready car. I used to have a 8th gen Accord and I miss the extra gallons. Gotta downsize the weight somehow
@kylerm2000 lol none of these low end sports cars are "track ready." these really are just buzz words for marketing. even a bmw m2 competition which is marketed for racing, is not really a race car it doesn't even have the suspension to be considered one. so no, none of these are track ready.
5 Things that suck 1. Interior Rattles 2. Steering wheel leather scratches/rips easily 3. Octane learning being so vague 4. 22-23 Models not getting bluelink forever. 5. Lack of rear AC vents//smallish gas tank. Bonus: 6. The amount of Brake dust is crazy.
I just hate that it doesn't have a grab handle for the driver, while every other seat gets one above the door. It would make it easier to get in and out of the car.
@@JVette01 That's rough. Conditions do play a factor also track prep. Dragy or race box on the street is again different but can be accurate. Many stock N's here in the east coast at the drag stip run 13.3 to 13.7 like this guy before octane learned. Once elantra N is octane learned and you have the right tires and conditions, they run 12.9 as evidenced by the track days here. And they run it back to back in different cars with different drivers. Having said that, this only applies to the DCT version. Manual is known to make less power from the factory and the driver shifting is a major factor.
I've seen stock Kona Ns run 13.2s, I could see a DCT EN with good tires on a prepped surface hitting 12s with perfect conditions. Just needs a legit 60ft to pull it off.
Really? Gas tank? All these small fun cars get about 280-330, the GR Corolla the type r. Plus to fill up takes less than 2 mins. Even some high horsepower SUV get about 300 a tank only, and show me you can empty a tank without taking a break or rest.
Hello, new sub here. I would say most of these are nitpicking for the exception of octane learning. I'm really surprised he didn't mention interior rattling. I just got my 23 EN in December, and I only have 2700 miles and I have rattling here and there in the interior mainly in the rear
Man, I wish the the EN didn’t sound so much better than the GTI. I’d buy a GTI if it sounded better. Sound is a top 3 priority for me and I’m willing to suffer through octane learning for it lmao
@@JVette01 I’ve watched that vid of yours before! Muffler delete sounds great. Better than stock by a lot and better than many of the aftermarket catbacks and axlebacks out there for the GTI. However, it still sounds inferior to the stock EN imo.
I,m still looking to buy one,I,m more concerned about it getting stolen even though I live in a great area I travel na lot and stay in hotels should I be worried?
I had an easy enough time getting my 6 speed to learn, but it would hit 18-19 once then cap back at 15-16. They should ditch that in the next gen. The thing that I hated most was the clutch/trans. Every single person killed it the first time they drove it lol
I just got one as my first manual a few days ago. I've stalled it a few times but by now I've mostly learned. My mom got in it and tried driving it, her first manual in 20 years. She got in, started it up while on an incline, then slammed through the gears like a professional in N mode. And like I said, this was 20 years after she last drove a manual. What I'm trying to say is: Skill issue.
the N driver should be happy for what he gets with that price. and theres no way you should compare the N with a Golf R. completely different cars and different price category. and when you buying elantra N you are mostly about fun and track ready car and cant expect most of the comfort and features. they did all that to save weight. now if you really want put both golf and elantra N on the track and you will see the difference. proven they are faster on the track than the golf r even with less hp.
I don't get this octane learning (I am not an owner yet) the car requires 91 premium, so if you always run what's required why would it have to learn? what happens if you don't do octane learning?
The car does not require 91. But you need 91 if you want to 'Octane learn' and unlock the max power. Basically car is advertised as 276 hp /// 290/300 torque, but due to 'octane learning' the car starts off assuming the gas is always 87 and reduces the power. You top out at like 245 hp, 15 psi of boost and 260 torque. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but it is annoying if you want max performance. Doing the actual Octane learning isn't that difficult, but its frustrating that there's no actual indicator aside from stopping the learning session and flooring it to see if you get more than 15 psi of boost or more than 260 torque.
The octane learning is pretty annoying. Otherwise it's all very small nit picks. Most of which can be cheaply upgraded. Which the 24 fixes the rear usb plugs. Also adds front parking sensors.
The problem is that everyone is using cruise control and/or keeping the gas stationary. You must not be in cruise control drive between 69 and 73 MPH moving the accelerator, and it will learn in 10 minutes. Leave the car parked for 5 minutes (locked). I will make a video tomorrow, when I fill up.
Octane learning has been done for almost 40 years. My 91 Stealth allowed 87 to 91 octane. It just has to run through its process. A 13.2 gallon tank is normal for small cars. Geez.. I have a Veloster N and love it.
@JVette01 my wife had a 2013 Elantra with a 13.2 gal tank like my Veloster. That is a small tank. My back roads commute returns 26 to 28 mpg with 31 mpg on the highway...that is using 87 octane. Thanks for the update.
I have a new '24 facelifted (DCT) version down here in Australia for about a month now. Yeah, the octane learning is just dumb sh1t - and good luck getting it to work all the time. At least now we get air vents in the back (as well as USB). And the rear emergency (triangle) light is actually functional. We only get the cheaper seats, though they are heated and cooled (and the driver seat is powered).
Still no rear AC vents in the U.S. makes no sense that they put them in the car for certain regions of the world, instead of putting them in all of the cars.
I know that's your list but besides octane learning that's a pretty terrible list in my *opinion*. And the octane learning is fixable with a tune. The gas tank is the only thing that you can't change. Filling up once a week spending $34 is nothing. So I don't agree with your reasoning there. They have trim kits to cover up the black and the bulbs can be swapped out. Takes 10mins. The paint is by far the worst thing about the car. But even that with spending some money is fixable with ppf when you first buy it. This is a lower priced performance car at the end of the day. Those little details like wood/metal trim and led lights inside aren't going to be there. Looking forward to your 5 things you like list.
@@speeddemonRS3the paint is softer than anything, chips/ scratches very easy. If you haven’t ppf’d the car within a week of ownership you better take your ass down to the dealership and get a touch-up paint pen.
I got an EASIER FIX GET IT TUNED EK1 then you can always put it back to stock if you need to get warranty work done they will not be able to tell it was tuned
@@camzyKillaThe techs won’t be able to tell if it’s tuned until HMG sends a field tech to look into the ECU parameters just to see that timing/boost parameters were played around with when the car requires warranty work from a catastrophic failure. But if you’re just going in for some maintenance or light warranty work, you’ll be fine.
He said he likes it 🤷♂️ Octane learning can be tuned. Rear air vents no big deal. Black plastic trim is in both cars and lights like seriously cmon man this video is just nit picking on a car that is 10k cheaper. If you really wanted to lay the boots in you could’ve mentioned the crap paint 😂
@@JVette01 Personally for the money I would choose an Elantra N over a golf GTI. The VW shape is dated and needs a refresh plus the Elantra N sounds way better. Those rear air vents are definitely a deciding factor though 😎
@JVette01 In most scenarios other than the depicted races vs the GTI, the N cars win. I've beaten stock GTIs with my Kona N octane learned in Florida on 93. My friend who had the GTI traded it for an EN. Not to mention, straight line aside, even the KN annihilated the GTI in the lightning lap. The EN on the same tires even beat the Golf R's lap times when Savagegeese tested them against one another. Just saying.
@@speeddemonRS3 I never said the car is flawless. I’ve said the golf shape looks old and dated and doesn’t sound as good as an N. If we are comparing apples to apples wouldn’t you buy the cheaper one?
Octane is timing for your engine combustion. The more octane you have, it becomes more knock resistant due to the fact the combustion has more "room" to use. It's a threshold for safety, that's why when you tune your car, you're tuning to the maximum capabilities of that "room". Get it?
Had. My car since. New Feb 2022. Car has 34k miles now as for the black. Trim mine. Is clean. No scratches. I use. Chemical guys. Interior cleaner. And the octane learn is actually good once the correct. Fuel is. In the tank 87 car is slower. 93. Does. Make a difference and if you can add 100. Octane. Definitely can tell from 93. So. Yes the octane learn does work I’ve had. No issues with. This car I. Drive it. Hard. When I can. Car is stock for. Now. I use to. Run. Jb4 I. Did. A custom map Was way faster than. Map 2. Had turn it. Down dct was slipping also. Was able to do. 0-60. 4.44. With. Me limiting boost. In 1,2 gear from jb4 I did. Notice that when the car. Was octane learned with the. Jb4. Its was. Very quick and. The dct. Did. Not. Slip I think when the car is. Octane learned. It. Applies. More. Pressure on the. Clutches I’ve owned this car for. Over 2yrs now. And. Only. Had. Car. Octane. Learn. Maybe 6 times. Most. My driving. Is. Mixed most city and 55mph. On hwy . I just. Only wish this car came awd. But a good every day car for sure
Who cares about MPGs when you drive a performance car. 91 octane is for Priuses, try 93 o wait you out West. There is much to be learned about Hyundai tuning vs VW or Honda tuning. There isn’t Hondata, APR or Cobb Tuning for Hyundai.
A few weeks ago there was some dummy complaining on Car & Drivers site that he had passed on the WRX because it got bad fuel economy comparable to an SUV. To which I replied that complaining that a turbocharged rally car gets bad fuel economy is like complaining that a fighter jet with an afterburner gets bad fuel economy.
Golf GTI, civic si, civic type r, Lexus is, I could list out other alternative competitor to the wrx that has figured out how to get better fuel economy. Especially for people who wants to drive econo sporty cars in Canada, with gas prices through the roof. Miata gets amazing fuel economy.
That would suck, only in Australia, 91 octane is our poverty fuel. we have nothing under 91, only an 85 used for real racing cars with a special additive. But for road cars, we also have 95 and 98 octane. Over here, these cars run 98 and no learning...just flat out all the way.,
Knock sensor putting the car in limp mode after a car wash is the WORST thing about this car. I've had mine for 2 years, and it's by far the worst problem, that Hyundai needs to fix. Only thing I can agree w/ this guy on is the octane learning, but for everyday daily driving it's not a big deal.
@@solomoncasado708 There is a chance of it happening if I use an automatic car wash. I hand wash my car now for the past year and have had zero problems.
That's so odd. I usually wash my car my self anyways to save money and do a more thorough job anyways. But in the winter after a snow fall I am forced to take my WRX through the car wash to remove that nasty corrosive road salt off my car especially the undercarriage.
If only Hyundai have more service centers and mechanics that are knowledgable enough with their tech, it was always a long issue, when your Hyundai brokes down and you cant find easily accessible spare parts of it on the market or even take it a trust worthy mechanic that knows Hyundai stuffs 😓
There's soooo much aftermarket MODs for the EN that are rock solid performance! Lap3, n75, Sxth Element that's el cheapo; and the car from the factory handles and brakes exceptionally well too! :)
The ELANTRA in reminds me of when you build a character in a video game and you put all your points and strength and ignore everything else. Decent engine, but the car looks ugly. The interior sucks, It’s front wheel drive, cheaply made, and a couple of years Hyundai will leave you hanging and end production.
If you want more power tune it stop whining all the other things you said are also on the type r and subaru i own both the N and a type r but would never buy a gti there engines have many flaws just like Subaru😂
Ohh really ! Type R the boy racer looks and needs attention plus over price! i would rather buy the GTI 💯 percent compare to type R . The ugly spoiler! Lol..
O5 WRX owner here. My WRX has been pretty reliable overall. I guess it's because it has the last of the 2.0L EJs. It has yet to leave me stranded like my 95 Acura Integra has over minor things like the main ignition coil going out or the clutch master cylinder failing. Plus those older Subarus are far more simple to diagnose and fix your self compared to the newer ones.
This guy is just lazy. They have aftermarket ABS pieces to cover the piano black. And also that panel on the left of the gauge cluster is NOT piano black. You can also add rear air vents in a mostly OEM manner. Octane learning does suck but depending on your future plans, just tune
I agree with everything you said. It would almost be the perfect daily IMO for everything you said and the lack of not having optional ventilated seats.
The Elantra N is incredibly good value for money and still some people complain. These people are pretty rare, though, as EN owners are notoriously happy with their metal babies.
1. Don't be such a girl and just tune it. Your fault you didn't do your homework before buying the car. 2. That car can get 40 MPG 3. Who cares about the passengers. 4. Lots of cars have piano black and I have no problems keeping it clean and scratch free. 5. Putting in LEDs are a super cheap and an easy fix.
You fail to forget that I have a baby on the way, so yea, passenger things matter. You sound like a peasant and people like you either have a superiority complex or just really have an issue with socializing overall. Hope you find happiness in life and try to find that special something that accomplishes your narcissism. Good day sir🫡
Elantra is wack I personally would save more for a type r or s or honestly any other performance car it’s kinda just normal traffic to me kinda lame but it’s good for the price point… save up and get a Supra or a m4
@@GTIclubdport9462I think what he is referring to is that German cars in general are over engineered that make them more complex to maintain and repair. Doing something like a water pump seal replacement on some BMWs is expensive because it's labor intensive because of all the parts that have to be removed to replace a simple cheap seal. Even back in WWII, German tanks were just as over engineered. If a tank broke down it took a crew of specialized technicians days to weeks to fix it. While an American Sherman Tank could be fixed in a few hours by any tank crew that was experienced fixing farm tractors.
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Tbh he might be worried about the wrong things. 5 things that actually sucks the most: 1. Knock sensor getting wet causing limp mode 2. Bad fuel injector 3. Clutch disc installed backwards 4. Launch control hard to activate 5. Wheel hop.
Hpfp is 6 lol
Warranty 🤝
1. Once you get octane learning, just don't fill up beyond 100 miles (3 - 3.5 gallons) to empty and it will permanently stay learned, only downside is getting gas more often, but is that really such a big deal? View octane learning as something fun you can unlock rather than "this sucks" or you will simply not enjoy yourself. 2. If you wanted a huge gas tank why not just buy an SUV?? I don't understand the complaint about a track car that is trying to cut weight where it can especially when if you highway drive it can get 450 miles in eco on a tank. 3. There is a vent under the seat for the rear passengers and the car has remote start with climate control from an app so i'm not sure why this is a problem unless you don't have your windows tinted and live in Florida. Would it be nice to have? Yeah but it's not a deal breaker when the car is about having fun, not specific luxuries. 4. Completely agree with the piano black plastic, I don't understand why manufacturers choose it, it's like they want to punish you. 5. LED's for the interior would be nice from the factory, but hardly cost anything to do yourself and it at least gives you a sense of an easy MOD you can upgrade yourself and make your car unique to the rest of its kind. Should manufacturers do this across the board? Yeah but they would find every reason to say its a $1000 up charge... I have had my 2023 EN DCT for about 18 months and have amassed 12k miles of pure bliss. The golf R is nice, but to trying to compare it to a car that is 10-15k cheaper out the door is ludicrous.
Thanks for your input. I’m not comparing this car to my golf r. I had a 2022 MK8 GTI before the R (that’s less expensive than the EN) and I’m comparing it to that
Well said✌️
Manual octane learning... Not worth it.
That alone means I will not be buying one.
Add in that gas can tank and that's a wrap.
Which sucks!
I call bs my car doesn’t stay octane learned trying ur method
@@Duran762 that’s unfortunate, keep trying, in honestly works for me
Bro he’s knit picking
i gotta say it man, it is a 5min process for octane learning or at least for me thats all it takes. im gonna make a list of thing i do before and during the octane learning so maybe some ppl find it helpful or actually help ppl to archive octane learning.
**Before Start counting the 5 minutes countdown make sure you're:
1. 8th gear or 6th gear (DCT put on manual and never shift down to 7th for the entire 5min run, must be 8th gear and 8th gear alone)
2. be above 66mph or below 99mph
3. you can be normal mode, custom N mode, sport or eco mode (ive tried em all) as long as the above 2 rules are met.
as soon as these 3 conditions are met, start your chrono or the car lap timer ( its what i use to make sure 5min have past)
**when you start counting the 5mins u have to maintain there conditions :
1. keep your speed above 66mph o above 99mph ( as soon as u go below 65 o above 99, you have to reset your 5mins coutndown, ive tested this countless of times. It must be between those speed)
2. do not change gears, keep it in 8th (DCT) or 6th (manual) at all time during those 5min ( as soon as u downshift its over, and u have to reset your 5min timer)
3.Maintain these specifications for at least 5min and 20 or 30s. if you dont fail any of the conditions , i guaranteed your gonna octane learn in that time, after your lap timer reads 5:30. just stop it , downshift to 7th and floori it and watch those turbo PSI go to 18-19.
something to mention, i live in PR (puerto rico) and i use 93 octane gas which is our premium gasoline, dont know if it work like this with a 91 ocatane as we dont have 91 here in PR. but ive been doing this "Oct learning" everytime i fill up the tank, my next commute to work i do it in the highway, since ive been doing it like this ive been able to octane learn the car 100 percent of the time 5min and 30 secs aprox. as long as i follow this sets of rule it have never failed me. i hope this help some ppl understand the process and makes it simple to octane learn for my fellows N thusiats out there.
Thanks for sharing
I just fill up my car lol
22 DCT N here and I'm looking forward to trying this. I also find Octane Learning to be inconsistent.
Thanks!!
The main problem with this is that the Octane Learning goes away when you shut the car off. I had my EN octane learned on full tank then left it parked at my place for an hour only for it to drop back to low boost psi again.
@@Duran762 Now that's an interesting observation. You might be onto something there. Which is probably why a Tune would just be a better option.
I hate the octane learning, too. I have the 2023 6-speed and it was frustrating and sometimes wouldn't work. I got a Lap 3 stage 1.5 tuned ECU and I get 20 PSI boost and don't have to worry about octane learning anymore. I also get over 300 whp, which is over 20% more - just from a tune and HKS sparkplugs on 93 octane! I don't have lights, bells, or whistles with this car but I never lose a race to a GTI. I smashed a Civic Type-R yesterday and when I was done it looked like a Type-awwww. :(
Cool guy! At the end of the day, you still drive a Kia
@@coles701I believe his 300whp and races more than I believe that's a Jessica typing.
Don’t understand the logic - my 8th Gen accord coupe has 18.5 gallon tank with the V6. This is a 4 door and only 12.5 gallons? Don’t get it.. there should be plenty space for a larger tank…
I understand where you’re coming from and i’m frustrated with the size too but this is a track ready car. I used to have a 8th gen Accord and I miss the extra gallons. Gotta downsize the weight somehow
It's the same w my ctr. 12.5 gallons. All part if having a track ready car
There is more space for a larger tank. The only reason it's not bigger is weight savings
It’s a track car. Not a regular car lol. No need for a big ass tank and you still get over 300miles a tank
@kylerm2000 lol none of these low end sports cars are "track ready." these really are just buzz words for marketing. even a bmw m2 competition which is marketed for racing, is not really a race car it doesn't even have the suspension to be considered one. so no, none of these are track ready.
5 Things that suck
1. Interior Rattles
2. Steering wheel leather scratches/rips easily
3. Octane learning being so vague
4. 22-23 Models not getting bluelink forever.
5. Lack of rear AC vents//smallish gas tank.
Bonus: 6. The amount of Brake dust is crazy.
I just hate that it doesn't have a grab handle for the driver, while every other seat gets one above the door. It would make it easier to get in and out of the car.
Race car thats why
@@jordynhixson655 Weight reduction haha
@@jordynhixson655no most new cars are being made without them
Stock octane learned N's 1/4 mile is 12.9s. Have you ran yours in the 1/4?
Realistically is not 12.9. Mid 13s is closer to reality. For our conditions here in Vegas, he managed a 13.7
@@JVette01 That's rough. Conditions do play a factor also track prep. Dragy or race box on the street is again different but can be accurate. Many stock N's here in the east coast at the drag stip run 13.3 to 13.7 like this guy before octane learned. Once elantra N is octane learned and you have the right tires and conditions, they run 12.9 as evidenced by the track days here. And they run it back to back in different cars with different drivers. Having said that, this only applies to the DCT version. Manual is known to make less power from the factory and the driver shifting is a major factor.
@@JVette01I got 13.1 completely stock OL at sea level. Lighter wheels and it’d be in the 12’s also driver mod 🤷🏻♂️
LOL. No stock EN is doing 12s😂😂😂 nice try bro 😂😂
I've seen stock Kona Ns run 13.2s, I could see a DCT EN with good tires on a prepped surface hitting 12s with perfect conditions. Just needs a legit 60ft to pull it off.
Really? Gas tank? All these small fun cars get about 280-330, the GR Corolla the type r. Plus to fill up takes less than 2 mins. Even some high horsepower SUV get about 300 a tank only, and show me you can empty a tank without taking a break or rest.
Hello, new sub here. I would say most of these are nitpicking for the exception of octane learning. I'm really surprised he didn't mention interior rattling. I just got my 23 EN in December, and I only have 2700 miles and I have rattling here and there in the interior mainly in the rear
He did mention that to me in person. I forgot to include that in
@JVette01 I'm curious to see the likes he has about it I'll be ready for the next video.
Sounds good! Should be posted within a week or so
Man, I wish the the EN didn’t sound so much better than the GTI. I’d buy a GTI if it sounded better. Sound is a top 3 priority for me and I’m willing to suffer through octane learning for it lmao
Easy fix. Do a resonator delete on GTI and it’s perfect. ruclips.net/user/shortsjlRBVCiRw7A?si=L85PBGUxr0JzRF7e
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@@JVette01 why was resonator delete video deleted?
I’m not sure. I tried clicking your link and it doesn’t work
@@JVette01 I’ve watched that vid of yours before! Muffler delete sounds great. Better than stock by a lot and better than many of the aftermarket catbacks and axlebacks out there for the GTI. However, it still sounds inferior to the stock EN imo.
I,m still looking to buy one,I,m more concerned about it getting stolen even though I live in a great area I travel na lot and stay in hotels should I be worried?
Not sure, I’ve heard they get stolen but I’m not too well versed on that
@@JVette01 do you take any precautions alarm steering wheel lock?
It's outrageous the car which costs $35,000 does not have rear vents. My 2022 KIA Forte GT has a rear vent, and I paid $27,000 for the car.
Yeah but performance wise the kia isn't on the same level as the Elantra
I had an easy enough time getting my 6 speed to learn, but it would hit 18-19 once then cap back at 15-16. They should ditch that in the next gen. The thing that I hated most was the clutch/trans. Every single person killed it the first time they drove it lol
I just got one as my first manual a few days ago. I've stalled it a few times but by now I've mostly learned. My mom got in it and tried driving it, her first manual in 20 years. She got in, started it up while on an incline, then slammed through the gears like a professional in N mode. And like I said, this was 20 years after she last drove a manual. What I'm trying to say is: Skill issue.
the N driver should be happy for what he gets with that price. and theres no way you should compare the N with a Golf R. completely different cars and different price category. and when you buying elantra N you are mostly about fun and track ready car and cant expect most of the comfort and features. they did all that to save weight. now if you really want put both golf and elantra N on the track and you will see the difference. proven they are faster on the track than the golf r even with less hp.
I don’t know why so many people are confused. I’m comparing it to my GTI I had, not the golf R
Do you want to test your golf R against a kia ev6?
Which trim EV6? And test in what way?
@@JVette01 gt trim, we can do drag races in the different modes.
That is perfect answer for this video.
@@carloslopez-px7mv you want to test your ev6 vs my 24 tesla model 3 performance !!!
@@NAZTYPONY007 Then you may as well compare with the EV6GT/Ioniq5N. You will probably lose to those.
I don't get this octane learning (I am not an owner yet) the car requires 91 premium, so if you always run what's required why would it have to learn? what happens if you don't do octane learning?
The car would be slower
@@JVette01 even if you always use 91 octane? That's ridiculous, I think I'm going to go golf R regardless but that confirms it
Golf r is the better choice if you can fork up the additional 10k
The car does not require 91. But you need 91 if you want to 'Octane learn' and unlock the max power. Basically car is advertised as 276 hp /// 290/300 torque, but due to 'octane learning' the car starts off assuming the gas is always 87 and reduces the power. You top out at like 245 hp, 15 psi of boost and 260 torque. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, but it is annoying if you want max performance. Doing the actual Octane learning isn't that difficult, but its frustrating that there's no actual indicator aside from stopping the learning session and flooring it to see if you get more than 15 psi of boost or more than 260 torque.
I would have been happy with just one. It's like 4 extra cookies. I owned a Hyundai 35 years ago. I'm still not over it..
The octane learning is pretty annoying. Otherwise it's all very small nit picks. Most of which can be cheaply upgraded. Which the 24 fixes the rear usb plugs. Also adds front parking sensors.
I think the octane learning is a huge issue
@@layne4376state 1 tune eliminates the issue
@@davothegreat9990 JB4 too
@@Sayu2x not sure. N75 ecu tune will.
The problem is that everyone is using cruise control and/or keeping the gas stationary. You must not be in cruise control drive between 69 and 73 MPH moving the accelerator, and it will learn in 10 minutes. Leave the car parked for 5 minutes (locked). I will make a video tomorrow, when I fill up.
Octane learning has been done for almost 40 years. My 91 Stealth allowed 87 to 91 octane. It just has to run through its process. A 13.2 gallon tank is normal for small cars. Geez.. I have a Veloster N and love it.
Thanks for sharing. However the EN has a 12.4 gallon tank. When you combine that with mediocre gas mileage (low mid 20’s) you don’t get a lot of range
@JVette01 my wife had a 2013 Elantra with a 13.2 gal tank like my Veloster. That is a small tank. My back roads commute returns 26 to 28 mpg with 31 mpg on the highway...that is using 87 octane. Thanks for the update.
Ur gti has it but how much more is the gti? You got to give and take for the price sir
My GTI was 32k. Not the Golf R seen in this video.
I have a new '24 facelifted (DCT) version down here in Australia for about a month now. Yeah, the octane learning is just dumb sh1t - and good luck getting it to work all the time. At least now we get air vents in the back (as well as USB). And the rear emergency (triangle) light is actually functional. We only get the cheaper seats, though they are heated and cooled (and the driver seat is powered).
Still no rear AC vents in the U.S. makes no sense that they put them in the car for certain regions of the world, instead of putting them in all of the cars.
I know that's your list but besides octane learning that's a pretty terrible list in my *opinion*. And the octane learning is fixable with a tune. The gas tank is the only thing that you can't change. Filling up once a week spending $34 is nothing. So I don't agree with your reasoning there. They have trim kits to cover up the black and the bulbs can be swapped out. Takes 10mins. The paint is by far the worst thing about the car. But even that with spending some money is fixable with ppf when you first buy it. This is a lower priced performance car at the end of the day. Those little details like wood/metal trim and led lights inside aren't going to be there. Looking forward to your 5 things you like list.
Thanks for watching. He did mention the paint to me in person but didn’t put it on the list
What is the issue with the paint just curious?
@@speeddemonRS3the paint is softer than anything, chips/ scratches very easy. If you haven’t ppf’d the car within a week of ownership you better take your ass down to the dealership and get a touch-up paint pen.
@@ctcdarkness That's crazy!
Easy fix --- just don't buy it😮
😂 most of the positives outway the cons
I got an EASIER FIX GET IT TUNED EK1 then you can always put it back to stock if you need to get warranty work done they will not be able to tell it was tuned
@@camzyKillaThe techs won’t be able to tell if it’s tuned until HMG sends a field tech to look into the ECU parameters just to see that timing/boost parameters were played around with when the car requires warranty work from a catastrophic failure. But if you’re just going in for some maintenance or light warranty work, you’ll be fine.
@@JVette01 By a very long way.
@@khau.cr2spare unlocked ecu buddy! Swap the original back in for warranty.
Hyundai offers a lot for the money IMO but we need to get out friend over here on the german side LOL
He’ll get a m340i one day haha
@@JVette01 that would be a perfect car for him especially with the baby on the way
The EN actually has a little more room in the rear but m340i more fun haha
@@JVette01 no way really ? the 3 series is huge lol when i had my LCI G20 the back felt huge i mean i do forget yall tall asf! lol 😂
@b58Narek The EN has 38 inches of legroom and m340 only has 35.2 or around the mid 35s. Makes a big difference.
Glad we get the hatch in Australia
Easy fix...just get it tuned like I did...350whp on 30k plus miles & no oct. learning to deal with
Sounds great, but a lot of people want to keep the Hyundai factory warranty in tact.
Spare ECU and no issues.
Nice, it's a TCR tune!
I wonder if the 2024 model has the same octane learning
He said he likes it 🤷♂️ Octane learning can be tuned. Rear air vents no big deal. Black plastic trim is in both cars and lights like seriously cmon man this video is just nit picking on a car that is 10k cheaper. If you really wanted to lay the boots in you could’ve mentioned the crap paint 😂
10k cheaper than what? Most of the things he mentioned are solved by having a 32k new Mk8 GTI
@@JVette01 Personally for the money I would choose an Elantra N over a golf GTI. The VW shape is dated and needs a refresh plus the Elantra N sounds way better. Those rear air vents are definitely a deciding factor though 😎
@@JVette01 N owner once again thinks the car is flawless!!😆
@JVette01 In most scenarios other than the depicted races vs the GTI, the N cars win. I've beaten stock GTIs with my Kona N octane learned in Florida on 93. My friend who had the GTI traded it for an EN. Not to mention, straight line aside, even the KN annihilated the GTI in the lightning lap. The EN on the same tires even beat the Golf R's lap times when Savagegeese tested them against one another. Just saying.
@@speeddemonRS3 I never said the car is flawless. I’ve said the golf shape looks old and dated and doesn’t sound as good as an N. If we are comparing apples to apples wouldn’t you buy the cheaper one?
Dude none of these youtubers actually drive these cars. 17k miles in over a year?? Is this even a full time daily driver??
That’s above the average lol… and he’s not a youtuber
I got my 22 EN in March of 2022 and have over 50,000 km on it. It's a fun car to drive.
Why use 87 grade gas in the first place?? That type of gas will ruin your engine and it also contains water....
Wrong.
Octane is timing for your engine combustion. The more octane you have, it becomes more knock resistant due to the fact the combustion has more "room" to use. It's a threshold for safety, that's why when you tune your car, you're tuning to the maximum capabilities of that "room". Get it?
Sounds like a goodbye and I would get this before the GTI. I think that may break down a long time before this will.. thanks for the video!!
Good buy 🤣☠️
Had. My car since. New Feb 2022. Car has 34k miles now as for the black. Trim mine. Is clean. No scratches. I use. Chemical guys. Interior cleaner. And the octane learn is actually good once the correct. Fuel is. In the tank 87 car is slower. 93. Does. Make a difference and if you can add 100. Octane. Definitely can tell from 93. So. Yes the octane learn does work I’ve had. No issues with. This car I. Drive it. Hard. When I can. Car is stock for. Now. I use to. Run. Jb4 I. Did. A custom map Was way faster than. Map 2. Had turn it. Down dct was slipping also. Was able to do. 0-60. 4.44. With. Me limiting boost. In 1,2 gear from jb4 I did. Notice that when the car. Was octane learned with the. Jb4. Its was. Very quick and. The dct. Did. Not. Slip I think when the car is. Octane learned. It. Applies. More. Pressure on the. Clutches I’ve owned this car for. Over 2yrs now. And. Only. Had. Car. Octane. Learn. Maybe 6 times. Most. My driving. Is. Mixed most city and 55mph. On hwy . I just. Only wish this car came awd. But a good every day car for sure
Who cares about MPGs when you drive a performance car. 91 octane is for Priuses, try 93 o wait you out West. There is much to be learned about Hyundai tuning vs VW or Honda tuning. There isn’t Hondata, APR or Cobb Tuning for Hyundai.
A few weeks ago there was some dummy complaining on Car & Drivers site that he had passed on the WRX because it got bad fuel economy comparable to an SUV. To which I replied that complaining that a turbocharged rally car gets bad fuel economy is like complaining that a fighter jet with an afterburner gets bad fuel economy.
Golf GTI, civic si, civic type r, Lexus is, I could list out other alternative competitor to the wrx that has figured out how to get better fuel economy. Especially for people who wants to drive econo sporty cars in Canada, with gas prices through the roof. Miata gets amazing fuel economy.
Wow, I can't believe you found an Elantra N owner that actually thinks there's even a single flaw with the car! It's just amazing, lol!!
😂
flaw? like he forgot its 10 grand less than a vw
10 grand less than my golf r yes but lots of the things he mentioned are standard on a base GTI which is less expensive
Having so many happy customers says a lot about how amazing the Elantra N is.
@@JVette01 The GTI doesn't perform as well as the Elantra N. People are raving about Hyundai's N division for a reason.
That would suck, only in Australia, 91 octane is our poverty fuel. we have nothing under 91, only an 85 used for real racing cars with a special additive. But for road cars, we also have 95 and 98 octane. Over here, these cars run 98 and no learning...just flat out all the way.,
U can replace all lights to led for less than 300$ at the same time so its still not bad
Putting in led bulbs still don’t look as nice as a factory LED unit
U can add vents in the back
Knock sensor putting the car in limp mode after a car wash is the WORST thing about this car. I've had mine for 2 years, and it's by far the worst problem, that Hyundai needs to fix. Only thing I can agree w/ this guy on is the octane learning, but for everyday daily driving it's not a big deal.
Every wash I've ever done on my car is hand wash. Never have taken it through a tunnel not just because of that but to save the cheap paint
Does it always happen?
@@solomoncasado708 There is a chance of it happening if I use an automatic car wash. I hand wash my car now for the past year and have had zero problems.
That's so odd. I usually wash my car my self anyways to save money and do a more thorough job anyways. But in the winter after a snow fall I am forced to take my WRX through the car wash to remove that nasty corrosive road salt off my car especially the undercarriage.
If only Hyundai have more service centers and mechanics that are knowledgable enough with their tech, it was always a long issue, when your Hyundai brokes down and you cant find easily accessible spare parts of it on the market or even take it a trust worthy mechanic that knows Hyundai stuffs 😓
There's soooo much aftermarket MODs for the EN that are rock solid performance! Lap3, n75, Sxth Element that's el cheapo; and the car from the factory handles and brakes exceptionally well too! :)
Still a fun car for the money
Absolutely!
damn, its a killer, for a fwd, its a fun driving experience
The ELANTRA in reminds me of when you build a character in a video game and you put all your points and strength and ignore everything else. Decent engine, but the car looks ugly. The interior sucks, It’s front wheel drive, cheaply made, and a couple of years Hyundai will leave you hanging and end production.
Elantra N is beautiful car..especially when you tune it using Jb4 you’ll enjoy it more buddy..💪
If you want more power tune it stop whining all the other things you said are also on the type r and subaru i own both the N and a type r but would never buy a gti there engines have many flaws just like Subaru😂
Ohh really ! Type R the boy racer looks and needs attention plus over price! i would rather buy the GTI 💯 percent compare to type R . The ugly spoiler! Lol..
O5 WRX owner here. My WRX has been pretty reliable overall. I guess it's because it has the last of the 2.0L EJs. It has yet to leave me stranded like my 95 Acura Integra has over minor things like the main ignition coil going out or the clutch master cylinder failing.
Plus those older Subarus are far more simple to diagnose and fix your self compared to the newer ones.
The n is supposed to be a performance vehichle not a family vehichle and is gery responsive so this is just not the best video in my opinion
Don’t got to relearn if it’s already learned
I change it for a type r fl5 so happy now Hyundai sucks not the N the company always a problem.
This guy is just lazy. They have aftermarket ABS pieces to cover the piano black. And also that panel on the left of the gauge cluster is NOT piano black. You can also add rear air vents in a mostly OEM manner. Octane learning does suck but depending on your future plans, just tune
thanks for sharing
Cool can I take it off your hands
Who gaf about LEDS what are we 12?
I didn’t know 12 year olds like LEDs in their vehicles
12 year olds can drive?
This dude picked the most petty things to not like about the car lol I got one it’s cool the company stepping it up
I agree with everything you said. It would almost be the perfect daily IMO for everything you said and the lack of not having optional ventilated seats.
Yeah, it's a shame they don't bring some of the nicer features they have in Korea, including ventilated seats
What can I buy instead of this car ?
GTI
@@JVette01 those are full of issues gtfo
Ctr dont have leds lights either.
In the front it does. in the back, there are some standard bulbs
@@JVette01 same as the Elantra N or very similar?
Similar. Not sure about Interior lightning though.
The newer models have leds
I laugh at these first world problems we have....
The Elantra N is incredibly good value for money and still some people complain. These people are pretty rare, though, as EN owners are notoriously happy with their metal babies.
Tinted windshield is illegal, stupid & dangerous.
But hey…at least you think you’re cool.
lol k
Not one is deal breaker.
Sounds like you bought the wrong car...in more ways than one.
Mototrend says different
Here is my suggestion, sell it! Lol 😂
Jesus loves you all
SO CAN YOU GET ANY BETTER CARS THAN THAT AT THAT PRICE RANGE????????????? HUH??????????????????? You don't even deserve to complain lmfao
Sell it then.
He will eventually but no car is perfect
Gotta love the haters especially the ones that drive automatics 😂 🤡
Reason #1. It looks awful.
The End.
lol
1. Don't be such a girl and just tune it. Your fault you didn't do your homework before buying the car.
2. That car can get 40 MPG
3. Who cares about the passengers.
4. Lots of cars have piano black and I have no problems keeping it clean and scratch free.
5. Putting in LEDs are a super cheap and an easy fix.
EN fanboy spotted
@JVette01 This is the typical N owner I was referring to lol
😂 idk why the EN community is so ridiculous.. like the car can’t do any wrong
@@JVette01 😂🤣
You fail to forget that I have a baby on the way, so yea, passenger things matter. You sound like a peasant and people like you either have a superiority complex or just really have an issue with socializing overall. Hope you find happiness in life and try to find that special something that accomplishes your narcissism. Good day sir🫡
👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 volkswagen trash car
Lmao EA888 is one of the best 4 cylinders in the world, it’s a shame you can’t even afford a Volkswagen lmao
Elantra is wack I personally would save more for a type r or s or honestly any other performance car it’s kinda just normal traffic to me kinda lame but it’s good for the price point… save up and get a Supra or a m4
This guy is not a car guy 😂
How do you figure?
I still buying an N germany cars are trash
k
But N cars inspired by German cars like M cars. so you are saying N cars are trash as well?
@@JVette01your channel is trash and your golf is trash everything you say is trash 😊
@@GTIclubdport9462I think what he is referring to is that German cars in general are over engineered that make them more complex to maintain and repair. Doing something like a water pump seal replacement on some BMWs is expensive because it's labor intensive because of all the parts that have to be removed to replace a simple cheap seal. Even back in WWII, German tanks were just as over engineered. If a tank broke down it took a crew of specialized technicians days to weeks to fix it. While an American Sherman Tank could be fixed in a few hours by any tank crew that was experienced fixing farm tractors.
WTH that will be annoying !
Lmao honestly all pet peeves.
Obviously…..🙄😂
It’s all small stuff.