Hello guys Structural Engineer here. Just to be safe for the next wind season, you should add more weight on the bottom of the light blue pillars. A footing of 0.5m*0.5m*0.2m should be enough.
Glad you brought it up, I could envision the whole assembly flipping over in a 100 k/h wind. As an alternate I was going to suggest tethering the support columns to a buried deadman.
And maybe also an extra storage/access shelf on the short wall of the container. Have some stuff maybe, but mostly a very stable platform to access the roof storage? Off course also depends on how often you need access 😛
I agree, you need to concrete the front two legs into the ground or strong wind will lift and damage the new roof. The roof is very big and needs to be tie down.
In the shower, tile on top of the magnesium cement. It will last a lot longer and will clean easily. I'm sure you can get hold of tons of excess tiles for free, it doesn't even matter if they are matching. I would advise this, as when I was 18 I helped build a campsite outdoor toilet block and bathroom area. I'm 47 now and it's still in use, having had very little maintenance in that time.
Like a mosaic. They could even use glass, since they don't stand on it. They stand on the wood, like 28:51 . That's just a basin to catch the water right? Their magnesium will probably make an ok grout between.
@@InquisitiveBaldMan yes that would work perfectly. They could even use a more hard-wearing grout if they aren't sure on the longevity and durability of the magnesium stuff. I know the ethos is to use ecologically sound materials, and stuff they can obtain for free, but they aren't against buying something more durable if it benefits the project as a whole, like they don't want to use tonnes of cement, concrete etc, but they will buy and use it in building projects if it's a necessary part of what they want to achieve. In future builds, I would love it if they had two or more containers like the one in this video, placed them both about 6 metres apart, then built a connecting roof between the two, and enclosing the middle space, in order to make extra indoor space, maybe even splitting the inner portion in to two 3 metre wide spaces, both the same length as the containers, making four internal spaces that could be split in to two rooms each, making 4 mini flats for people who are living and working at the camp or 8 bedrooms. The addition of a door and a small window at the front and a window on the back end, would mean 4 chalet type abodes with a bedroom each and a small living area, and the could have a double bed, or a single bed. Or even fit two singles for those who don't mind sharing. Maybe even two sets of bunk beds per bedroom. It means they would be able to house more volunteers. They wouldn't be hard to insulate, even just draping the walls with fleece blankets would be sufficient as it's what we do when camping, and it keeps the tent more than warm enough, too warm sometimes! They could even add a few more shipping containers and do the same thing as I described above. They could even space them apart even more, with extra supports in the middle, and in doing so, get bigger rooms out of them, or even extra rooms. They could make a quadrangle block of these chalet's with a outdoor space, an open centre square in the middle that they could use as a space for entertainment at night, with a fire pit in the middle, that would be shaded by the chalet's that would mean zero chance of fire escaping in to the nearby clusters of trees, therefore it won't cause any forest fires etc, I really like what they do at this camp, if I wasn't 47 and wasn't physically disabled like I now am, I know both I and my wife would have volunteered a few months of our time and effort towards helping these guys. I've always wanted to live in something self built rather than a conventional house, something like these guys build. Like I say I'm disabled now so not much chance of me physically building something like this myself, but I can sort of compromise, I live in a bungalow now, and as soon as it's bought and paid for in a year or two, I have big plans for my big back garden, I want to have it adapted to my needs. Plus I'm planting a lot of trees, mainly fruit trees, a garden area to grow as much vegetables, legumes, brassicas etc as we can and I still engage in woodwork, craft work, little building projects that I can manage from my wheelchair such as a pizza oven, BBQ firepit etc, and I have friends and family who all enjoy making things. Building stuff etc and they will all help, and we I'll come and spend nights out in the garden, chilling out, making pizzas and having a few beers, watching movies on my projectors! So this way I can have my own little project camp going on in my own back yard. A nice little private paradise in the suburbs. There should be more of them. People being more self sufficient and enjoying the land they live on instead of locking themselves indoors with their ready made frozen TV dinners for company. I think what you said about a mosaic pattern with the glass, maybe different colour bottles etc would be great. And using glass, if they acquire a cement mixer, fill it halfway with sand and throw all the glass in to it, after a couple of hours the glass would come out with nice rounded edges with no sharp areas to cause cuts and injury, making them suitable for doing a mosaic floor. They can even use the smaller bits if rounded off glass for making jewelry that they can either wear, or sell to bring in some revenue for the project camp savings tin. It would help them to pay for more projects in camp.
Hi guys, Cool roof and nice realization. There is one point that many people have already mentioned, but most of them have not come up with any solutions, so here is my comment. The front roof is really big, I estimate it to be around 4x8m. You can assume about 0.5-1kN/m2 of uplift force. This results in a total force of up to 32kN (so you're on the safe side). Distributed over two columns. This gives an uplift force of 16kN (~1600kg - dead load) per column! Anchor the columns in the ground. Otherwise, there is a really good chance that the structure will be damaged in the next storm! Greetings;)
I'd wager the beams tying the roof to the container are strong enough to not yield under that load, and the container itself, being occupied with heavy tools, weighs enough to not tip if the structure remains rigid. I can't do the calculations on that without all the dimensions, and I imagine it's not a huge factor of safety against a 100-year wind gust, so I agree having a footing would be more ideal, but I think it will be fine as is.
I also think it is fine. There is no closed space under the roof. So the wind can escape in all 4 directions. So how should be that much uplofting forces?
thought so too, the dirt even took like 10s to come off, which shouldve been gone instantly. although i guess getting way too close could strip the oil/paint
They are clueless... What makes them think that a 5kg concrete slab is going to hold down 15 square metres of roof in a storm? Or if a truck reverses into it? Footings were invented for a reason.
if all that was left of human civilization was somehow only the full episode series of Project Kamp, and somehow aliens or a future Earth civilization find and watch them all, I think it'd be an excellent documentary on humanity. The ingenuity, the community living, the diverse ancestries and nationalities, the forward-looking plans, the cheer and camaraderie, even the occasional swear word, (11:30) the list goes on! Thank you to all who've made Project Kamp thrive!
@@TerrorTubbie666 yes solar therm! I wonder if its good to do or not because they have the water heater already. but the heating the water with solar is more efficent hmm.
For more stability you could but some old cracked roof tiles or other gravel under the support legs. So they don’t sink in the ground so much over time. I think the concrete slab is not enough.
16:23 Bless this man for wearing a respirator 😩🙏 I've been so worried for the folks at PK when they handle dusty things without a mask, so I'm really happy to see someone using one!
You should add a solar powered large blade ceiling fan (or two) with LED lighting, under the roof, this way air is moving when you are working under it in warm weather. And of course have night time illumination. Also add more cement around those blocks, and add a lot of dirt, otherwise, wind catching under the roof could lift them up. During the windy season, adding some tether/hold-down lines to secure the front part might be in order.
21:18 In Sweden the instruction for using self tapping screws from the manufacture is to screw them in the wally of the metal roofing, not on the high spot. In the low spot you can tighten the rubber seal more and make it more water tight without make a huge dent in the roof. It is counter intuitive you think that its wrong to put the screw where the water will flow. Maybe different from different manufactures of screws.
Those are some weird instructions, because here in Germany the instructions say to put them on the high spot and not torque them down too much, I'd have to ask my aquaintance who is a roofer for a newtonmeter setting. The seal might not be as strong initially, but it also won't have to face all of the run-off from the roof, only a little bit.
@@beerenmusli8220 Before screws when the roofer used nails you should nail metal roofing on on the high spot. But i think it depend on the roof and screw how it is construed and suppose to work and so on. Maybe the climate is a factor also. Here in the Nordic countrys we build things a little bit different. Sometimes it is because we need to factor in a lot of snow on our roofs. Sometimes maybe just a different tradition.
12:23 hey guys! A helpful tip from a fellow bolt shortener. If you screw a nut onto the bolt just below the spot you want to cut, you get a perfectly straight cut and perfect threads by grinding the bolt down to the surface of the nut.
A suggestion for the upgraded workcontainer: Add some lights to the inside of the doors so when you open it and it's faced to the outside and so you have light outside as well. Might be helpful for the evening tinkering.
Now you have had practice making two roofs, over the workshop and the food pantry/garden gear space, you can have a go at making the biggest one yet, over the kitchen and pizza/bread oven structures both which need more dining space
When working with metal, there is a product called Extend that seals against water. Originally developed for oil pipelines. Great stuff and you don't have to worry about the rust. I highly recommend it!
Is uplift not a concern on the front of the canopy? In my part of the world not only would you need to support the weight of the roof pushing down on the columns but also hold them down during bad storms. I don't know much about the weather in that part of the world so maybe it is not an issue.
I’m surprised that the pillar feet weren’t secured more to the ground. They could drill a hole into the cement feet and push a rod through deep into the ground for some form of anchoring.
Good point, digging out a small fundament for the pillars and filling it with concrete should solve that.
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if there's uplift no amount of ancouring would be enough; the forces that come with 100km/h winds will tear through anything, anchoured or not. trust me, i´m an engineer... 🥸 🤠😎
A good alternative for the shower basin if the cement doesnt work could be a granite basin, something made for that spot. It will last a lifetime and there are great granite mines and stoneworkers in that region of the Iberian Peninsula, wether it is Galicia or Portugal. It might cost a bit of money, which mught make the decision harder, but I can assure you you will never have shower basin problems ever again. Even a few generations down the road might use it.
Also, for the wood, a great washing agent is vinegar!! Im sure your neighbours have some homemade, or you can buy it in stores for dirty cheap! I use it on my washing machine as a softener substitute, way better for clothes, your skin and the washing machine.
Your dedication to transforming your workspace container and repairing the shower is impressive! The new roof adds both functionality and charm. Great job! And I Am Floating Village Life
Hi guys! What an amazing new video again! But I worry about your new roof As many of us in the comments below, I really recommand you to reenforce the fondation of the two legs A not so strong wind may collaps the hole new roof. Be shure to slot them into the ground (maybe with a 50cm sides bloc of concrete could be enougth) and maybe put twice more screws to fix the metal sheets. I studyed a bit of structure engineering, your roof is too light compared to it's area And I really don't need any math to assure there is a risk there Hope this roof will survive ! And it will give you more shadow than a rain cover that you can share us such many sunny views of your kamp! With love Coco
@@chickadeeacres3864 The roof is visibly at an angle. 15:10 explains it. "Making it flat" is relative to the plane described by the roof beams, not towards the ground. At 19:41 is the segment with the screws, including rubber washers. I agree that it's confusing, because he's preparing the screws differently - with an extra washer - than what he uses for the roof. Though the roof screw still has a rubber washer.
Two things: Precious plastic shower base and duck boards seems like an opportunity for recycling/upcycling. You need to anchor the new workspace roof waaaay better at the front to stop it being bent up by strong winds. At least 600x600x600 mm of concrete into footings dug into the ground. Currently nothing but luck is anchoring it. Go team!
Doesn't have to be concrete cubes dug into the ground, I think, but at least 1000kg per pole would give this roof a fair chance in a storm. Or anchor it into the ground in some other way...
May i just say how impressed I am with you're efforts on re-using left over items....may I say you could get away with making a shower tray from your composite plastics the same as you did with the toilet seat. No more worries about it wearing away, and you could have a drain incorporated into it for the soak away of water.
The steel stock you put on the roof should all be sticking a little over the edge so you can see what you have available without having to climb up and look every time you need something. You can also keep track of each pieces current length in chalk right below it.
To get the roof straight, use a string connected at the highest and lowest points (along each edge), then raise or lower until the string meets the other supports.
When you stored the extra metal, you should use some of it to weld together a ladder of the correct length to access the store. Pretty easy for it to slip when it is laid over so much like that. In fact weld it to the container at the top too, then its secure.
Didn't comment for a while, but there are a couple things about this vid I would like to say :) First, you're living the dream, this is one huge playground for grown ups, so nice! Get yourself a line cross laser for easier leveling, angling etc. They are relatively cheap and I use them for almost every project in our house. Under the cement blocks, add a thin layer of gravel, then condense it. It will support water drainage. Lastly regarding wind: please listen to that other comment and add weight. You just built yourself a nice wind sail :D Probably the bolts holding the sheets would pop first, but you never know.
Great job guys. That roof looks solid and a nice space to work under. I love your attention to detail with rust removal before painting etc, shows real pride and care for your work. Great design for water flow in the foot well too. Very ingenious.
I love you project, I think is a wonderful way to help make the world a better place. Hope I can do something as well sometime in the future. Keep going! There is one thing I noticed that I'm worried about. In my workspace we had a few accidents over the years, most of them related with to being too comfortable doing it and loosing focus of the security. Silly stuff but with some disgusting outcomes. I've seen you guys unload heavy materials like steal beams in flip flops. Please wear some safety boots. Accidents can happen in a fraction of a second and those flip flops are not going to save the day.
Warning! Never wear working gloves when working with a drill press. The drill can catch in the fabric and tear off your fingers! Lesson number one in technical school..
The new metel roof you built should have a gutter to catch water and then drop down in the corner to a water storage container. To be used for plants and other things . Even cleaning
Hello from Australia, I’ve been very busy watching all these upload from start to finish. You all have done a fantastic job on fixing things up and improving a lot great job everyone
There are clamps designed to fit the corner blocks of ISO containers. Commericial fabricators use muriatic acid/spirit of salts to clean off rust. DIY, I suggest you use distilled spirit vinegar or saturated citric acid. Zinc base primers would also neutralise light rust like you had.
Hehe greetings from Spain, I'm interested on seeing how the fix on the shower basin holds, interesting material :) Lots of love for all of you guys, I love love love your editing, I'm so happy to see the videos improving in quality, it seems you have found a formula that works wonders for your content 🥰
I'm afraid that capping concrete or cement is not a good idea. The new layer wont bond properly to the bottom layer and I would not be surprised to see you revisit this project in a year or 2. The best thing to do is to remove the entire basin and start over. Seal that and you should have a long lasting shower floor. I hope I am wrong. I love all the hard work you are doing and the content you share.
The next shower project should probably be… more showers? Given the number of kampers they have this season, one shower feels like far too few. So when more showers go up, they can implement your more robust solution.
Have you considered stretch tents for shade structures during the busier months? Shaded portable workshop spaces around the property. They are great for rain as well, just not sure how long they will last if never taken down. Great for lounge areas as well, so many useful purposes.
Mix water, a few drops of dishsoap and vinegar (maybe 1/4 or 1/5) spray on the wood in the shower and brush. After mix water and 1/10 "såpa" (tried to find the english translation from swedish but i only get "soap", in dutch I get "Groene zeep"?) This will clean and also give the tree some resistance from algee as well as condition it (and it's ecofriendly).
Loving these vids and what you're about and what you're doing! Something that resonated especially this episode was your guy (sorry I forget his name but I think the American fellow?) mentioned feeling like he needed to get physical and connect beyond what he had been trained to do and doing previously as a Product Designer. I love that he looks so happy being a part of your team. Win!!
The pressure cleaning looked super satisfying! That magnesium cement seems really interesting, I'm keen to learn more - I'll have to check out your research
To avoid rust between container roof and outfits on the roof. It helps to separate mild steel from the roof of the container with a small piece of wood across.
I'd love to see what sort of paint pigments you could make from what's around you! I'm sure there are interesting minerals and plants that could add some eventual natural variation to the black paint. It looks sharp, for sure though! These videos are a highlight of my week, thank you for sharing your community work with us
Hey Kampers..... water support here........ one idea is to have gutters to catch all that rain water from each roof with a filter system...... more water collected the better....
Love the content. Please keep the videos coming. Congratulation on the roof upgrade. I believe that will make workshop projects alot more enjoyable. If I may make a suggestion for in future if ever fitting another roof again. Always drill your holes 1 or 2mm oversize. Never tighten any nuts until you have all the parts fitted with the bolts. This way you will have a little "wiggle room". That should make getting everything aligned much easier and then you can go through and make everything tight. Just a suggestion 🙂
Instead of using your eyes to see if the support legs are making the roof flat, you can use a string tied to the back and front cross members so that when it is just barely touches the inner cross members, the roof will be flat.
That roof is certainly not going to blow away! When I cut bolts to length like you do around 12:00 I like to put the nut on first then cut and chamfer the bolt. When you screw the nut back off it cleans up the threads on the way out.
The kit and the knowhow you guys have is amazing. And attention to detail. If I was doing a roof it would be 2x4 with tin sheets attached, which would last 6 month 😂.
Fantastic job with the roof, guys! May I suggest that you put gutters on the back of the roofs, attach downpipes, and water butts, so that you have more water available for your gardens and any future expansions. Could you run pipes from these to your water cistern/well by the road during the wet/winter months, or as an overflow if you get a prolonged/heavy period of rainfall, so that it's filled as much as possible? You could make some kind of valve so that you can control whether water goes straight into the cistern/well, or stays in the butts for easier access (i.e. for watering your gardens). I'm no engineer, so I don't know how you would do it, but I'm sure your collective minds could work it out! I think that when you come to planting more of your own food, it would be a great idea to run a drip hose buried a few inches/cm below ground so that the plants will be watered regularly, and there'll be little to no evaporation, as is the case with watering above ground. What do you think?
items: for safety - in my neck of the woods :) 1. roof feet need footers below frost line -- those pads will lift in a storm and split the roof or could be bumped 2. Header across the front 16' :( (i didn't see one) the bow of the metal will pop the roof screws over time as in contracts and expands. 3. Ground the roof - test the roof for proper grounding with the container with a real earth ground. 4. Pressure wash - might need bleach to kill green mold - water proof will last a season - every year - r 5. get some used tile and tile a surround or plaster the wall -- secret to shower make it large 4 x 4 so water doesn't hit walls so much then wood is fine 6. just set a normal shower base and tile it with a drain line maybe not for your area - just thoughts ...
For future projects, Step 1: wire brush loose rust. Step 2: degrease. Step 3: Treat rust with a product called Ospho (Osphoric Acid). Last tep: Paint. Osphoric acid chemically converts iron oxide into iron phosphate, which is stable (no more rust). The result is a primer like surface. It works well.
You wonderful young “band of gypsies” never cease to amaze me with your ENERY, RESOURCEFULNESS AND INGENUITY….you do everything RIGHT……no short cuts or sloppy jobs 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Love the workshop roof! Great use of standard size steel for framing. The new cement work looks amazing! Look around for some free or cheap ceramic tile, and then do 2 showers at once when you're ready. Peak season is over 35 people, right? Might want that second shower sometime. Ceramic tiling on the pizza oven might help, too.
Just rewatched the workshop container build and wondered when a new video about it would come along. Thinking of doing something similar here to attach to a new shed here in New Zealand.
With this type of assembly, washers should not be fitted, but rather normal spring washers. The washer can turn unnecessarily and loosen the nut in the process. A countersink should always be used with cutting oil and at low speeds.
Anyone here from Ireland?
yes, may i ask why?
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No :p
@@Engie50Limerick Up for driving to "Ballymena" in the comings days for a special mission?
@@ProjectKamp ah, no car alas, but it does sound intrigueing
Hello guys Structural Engineer here.
Just to be safe for the next wind season, you should add more weight on the bottom of the light blue pillars. A footing of 0.5m*0.5m*0.2m should be enough.
So falling structure will not make anyone widow next season!
Glad you brought it up, I could envision the whole assembly flipping over in a 100 k/h wind. As an alternate I was going to suggest tethering the support columns to a buried deadman.
I audibly lol’d at the tiny cement block just placed on scuffed dirt
Thought exactly the same, an empty container could move at winds around 21 m/s. Adding a 300-400kg per pole should be ok.
@@brianhughes3942 yes, any solution that and wight to the base is enough
Maybe at the rear of the new roof install a couple of water tanks, so you will have a huge water supply for the vegetable garden?
Cool roof!
And maybe also an extra storage/access shelf on the short wall of the container. Have some stuff maybe, but mostly a very stable platform to access the roof storage?
Off course also depends on how often you need access 😛
Free water collection For Sure...👍👍
Maybe even a cistern? They could collect tons of water in the rainy season!
I agree, you need to concrete the front two legs into the ground or strong wind will lift and damage the new roof. The roof is very big and needs to be tie down.
Well, I don't think they NEED concrete.
There are other options.
@@TerrorTubbie666 yes totaly! maybe a small water tank on each side :)
you need to fasten the blocks to the ground in case of high winds
I thought that too! Massive metal sail.
If they don't do it, I bet there will be one episode dedicated to roof repairing.
They need to anchor the support poles in Concrete.
It's RUclips after all. Imagine the views they'll get with a "Look what happened to our brand new roof after a big storm" thumbnail.
They may in-fact be allergic to concrete…….
The shower base is a perfect example.
In the shower, tile on top of the magnesium cement. It will last a lot longer and will clean easily. I'm sure you can get hold of tons of excess tiles for free, it doesn't even matter if they are matching. I would advise this, as when I was 18 I helped build a campsite outdoor toilet block and bathroom area. I'm 47 now and it's still in use, having had very little maintenance in that time.
Like a mosaic. They could even use glass, since they don't stand on it. They stand on the wood, like 28:51 . That's just a basin to catch the water right? Their magnesium will probably make an ok grout between.
@@InquisitiveBaldMan yes that would work perfectly. They could even use a more hard-wearing grout if they aren't sure on the longevity and durability of the magnesium stuff. I know the ethos is to use ecologically sound materials, and stuff they can obtain for free, but they aren't against buying something more durable if it benefits the project as a whole, like they don't want to use tonnes of cement, concrete etc, but they will buy and use it in building projects if it's a necessary part of what they want to achieve.
In future builds, I would love it if they had two or more containers like the one in this video, placed them both about 6 metres apart, then built a connecting roof between the two, and enclosing the middle space, in order to make extra indoor space, maybe even splitting the inner portion in to two 3 metre wide spaces, both the same length as the containers, making four internal spaces that could be split in to two rooms each, making 4 mini flats for people who are living and working at the camp or 8 bedrooms. The addition of a door and a small window at the front and a window on the back end, would mean 4 chalet type abodes with a bedroom each and a small living area, and the could have a double bed, or a single bed. Or even fit two singles for those who don't mind sharing. Maybe even two sets of bunk beds per bedroom.
It means they would be able to house more volunteers. They wouldn't be hard to insulate, even just draping the walls with fleece blankets would be sufficient as it's what we do when camping, and it keeps the tent more than warm enough, too warm sometimes! They could even add a few more shipping containers and do the same thing as I described above. They could even space them apart even more, with extra supports in the middle, and in doing so, get bigger rooms out of them, or even extra rooms. They could make a quadrangle block of these chalet's with a outdoor space, an open centre square in the middle that they could use as a space for entertainment at night, with a fire pit in the middle, that would be shaded by the chalet's that would mean zero chance of fire escaping in to the nearby clusters of trees, therefore it won't cause any forest fires etc,
I really like what they do at this camp, if I wasn't 47 and wasn't physically disabled like I now am, I know both I and my wife would have volunteered a few months of our time and effort towards helping these guys. I've always wanted to live in something self built rather than a conventional house, something like these guys build.
Like I say I'm disabled now so not much chance of me physically building something like this myself, but I can sort of compromise, I live in a bungalow now, and as soon as it's bought and paid for in a year or two, I have big plans for my big back garden, I want to have it adapted to my needs. Plus I'm planting a lot of trees, mainly fruit trees, a garden area to grow as much vegetables, legumes, brassicas etc as we can and I still engage in woodwork, craft work, little building projects that I can manage from my wheelchair such as a pizza oven, BBQ firepit etc, and I have friends and family who all enjoy making things. Building stuff etc and they will all help, and we I'll come and spend nights out in the garden, chilling out, making pizzas and having a few beers, watching movies on my projectors!
So this way I can have my own little project camp going on in my own back yard. A nice little private paradise in the suburbs. There should be more of them. People being more self sufficient and enjoying the land they live on instead of locking themselves indoors with their ready made frozen TV dinners for company.
I think what you said about a mosaic pattern with the glass, maybe different colour bottles etc would be great. And using glass, if they acquire a cement mixer, fill it halfway with sand and throw all the glass in to it, after a couple of hours the glass would come out with nice rounded edges with no sharp areas to cause cuts and injury, making them suitable for doing a mosaic floor. They can even use the smaller bits if rounded off glass for making jewelry that they can either wear, or sell to bring in some revenue for the project camp savings tin. It would help them to pay for more projects in camp.
Came here to say this. Find some scrap tile and use it! Worth the work.
Hi guys,
Cool roof and nice realization. There is one point that many people have already mentioned, but most of them have not come up with any solutions, so here is my comment. The front roof is really big, I estimate it to be around 4x8m. You can assume about 0.5-1kN/m2 of uplift force. This results in a total force of up to
32kN (so you're on the safe side). Distributed over two columns. This gives an uplift force of 16kN (~1600kg - dead load) per column! Anchor the columns in the ground. Otherwise, there is a really good chance that the structure will be damaged in the next storm! Greetings;)
I'd wager the beams tying the roof to the container are strong enough to not yield under that load, and the container itself, being occupied with heavy tools, weighs enough to not tip if the structure remains rigid. I can't do the calculations on that without all the dimensions, and I imagine it's not a huge factor of safety against a 100-year wind gust, so I agree having a footing would be more ideal, but I think it will be fine as is.
I also think it is fine. There is no closed space under the roof. So the wind can escape in all 4 directions. So how should be that much uplofting forces?
I love how sustainable building also means using high-quality materials and proper craftmansship! These people are serious!
28:48 the reason why the planks are still green, is because you didn't hold the lance close enough to the wood. You just rinsed it off, basically. 👍
Also there differents heads for the power washer to exert more presser.!!! " Elementar my caro Holmes! "
Looks like the water blaster wasn’t grungy enough, needed a higher flow rate model potentially.
thought so too, the dirt even took like 10s to come off, which shouldve been gone instantly. although i guess getting way too close could strip the oil/paint
I wanted to write "Why didnt you hold the power washer 5 meters from the wood!" but that will do too )))
They are clueless...
What makes them think that a 5kg concrete slab is going to hold down 15 square metres of roof in a storm? Or if a truck reverses into it? Footings were invented for a reason.
if all that was left of human civilization was somehow only the full episode series of Project Kamp, and somehow aliens or a future Earth civilization find and watch them all, I think it'd be an excellent documentary on humanity. The ingenuity, the community living, the diverse ancestries and nationalities, the forward-looking plans, the cheer and camaraderie, even the occasional swear word, (11:30) the list goes on! Thank you to all who've made Project Kamp thrive!
I have nothing to say really, but I appreciate your content, and wish to help with the yt-algorithms.
That's saying a lot
Yay for that!
yeaaaah this is me dropping my weekly comment
one more solid roof = one additional place for solar panels :)
And rain catchment at the back.
Was thinking the same!
Or a solarboiler for heating showerwater...
@@TerrorTubbie666 yes solar therm! I wonder if its good to do or not because they have the water heater already. but the heating the water with solar is more efficent hmm.
These videos are so so entertaining. Well shot, well edited, with the most interesting lovely people on youtube.
That big roof is ideal for water collection for the dryier months. Especially when growing lots of vegetables.
Video number 6 asking for "spikey booshes" merch.
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Don’t forget Gran Night
I would totally buy a shirt that says Spikey Booshes
Spikes booooooshes!!!
For more stability you could but some old cracked roof tiles or other gravel under the support legs. So they don’t sink in the ground so much over time. I think the concrete slab is not enough.
16:23 Bless this man for wearing a respirator 😩🙏 I've been so worried for the folks at PK when they handle dusty things without a mask, so I'm really happy to see someone using one!
You should add a solar powered large blade ceiling fan (or two) with LED lighting, under the roof, this way air is moving when you are working under it in warm weather. And of course have night time illumination.
Also add more cement around those blocks, and add a lot of dirt, otherwise, wind catching under the roof could lift them up. During the windy season, adding some tether/hold-down lines to secure the front part might be in order.
Do it in the shape of an upside T or a piramide, then the soil around it will help as well.
21:18 In Sweden the instruction for using self tapping screws from the manufacture is to screw them in the wally of the metal roofing, not on the high spot.
In the low spot you can tighten the rubber seal more and make it more water tight without make a huge dent in the roof.
It is counter intuitive you think that its wrong to put the screw where the water will flow.
Maybe different from different manufactures of screws.
you are right. the stability is better and rubber mat will wix it better on flat surface. and it also awoid deforming metals and connections.
Seems like they had no idea with what they were doing, considering that laugh of a slab under the pole for the roof....
Those are some weird instructions, because here in Germany the instructions say to put them on the high spot and not torque them down too much, I'd have to ask my aquaintance who is a roofer for a newtonmeter setting. The seal might not be as strong initially, but it also won't have to face all of the run-off from the roof, only a little bit.
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Before screws when the roofer used nails you should nail metal roofing on on the high spot. But i think it depend on the roof and screw how it is construed and suppose to work and so on. Maybe the climate is a factor also. Here in the Nordic countrys we build things a little bit different. Sometimes it is because we need to factor in a lot of snow on our roofs. Sometimes maybe just a different tradition.
SAFETY FIRST! Wear safety glasses when grinding, drilling, or cutting. ALWAYS!
And dont use gloves when drilling!!! The glove can wrap around the drill and your fingers are gone 😵💫
Some nice tools you've aquired ...making those projects so efficient.
12:23 hey guys! A helpful tip from a fellow bolt shortener. If you screw a nut onto the bolt just below the spot you want to cut, you get a perfectly straight cut and perfect threads by grinding the bolt down to the surface of the nut.
A suggestion for the upgraded workcontainer: Add some lights to the inside of the doors so when you open it and it's faced to the outside and so you have light outside as well. Might be helpful for the evening tinkering.
I'm excited about the pipe, I wonder where the water is leaking :D please show us the progress of the pipe in the next episode, it's great to watch
Now you have had practice making two roofs, over the workshop and the food pantry/garden gear space, you can have a go at making the biggest one yet, over the kitchen and pizza/bread oven structures both which need more dining space
Use a string line to check all the battens are level. Simple and accurate!
Like the Egyption and Sumerians did It.
When working with metal, there is a product called Extend that seals against water. Originally developed for oil pipelines. Great stuff and you don't have to worry about the rust. I highly recommend it!
Is it made by Brite Coatings?
Is uplift not a concern on the front of the canopy? In my part of the world not only would you need to support the weight of the roof pushing down on the columns but also hold them down during bad storms. I don't know much about the weather in that part of the world so maybe it is not an issue.
I thought the same thing. Needs some serious tiedowns
I'd say it is an (overlooked) issue.
I’m surprised that the pillar feet weren’t secured more to the ground. They could drill a hole into the cement feet and push a rod through deep into the ground for some form of anchoring.
Good point, digging out a small fundament for the pillars and filling it with concrete should solve that.
if there's uplift no amount of ancouring would be enough;
the forces that come with 100km/h winds will tear through anything, anchoured or not. trust me, i´m an engineer... 🥸
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A good alternative for the shower basin if the cement doesnt work could be a granite basin, something made for that spot. It will last a lifetime and there are great granite mines and stoneworkers in that region of the Iberian Peninsula, wether it is Galicia or Portugal. It might cost a bit of money, which mught make the decision harder, but I can assure you you will never have shower basin problems ever again. Even a few generations down the road might use it.
Also, for the wood, a great washing agent is vinegar!! Im sure your neighbours have some homemade, or you can buy it in stores for dirty cheap! I use it on my washing machine as a softener substitute, way better for clothes, your skin and the washing machine.
For the green planks: just use soap and a hard brush or steelwool. Will come out as new.
Your dedication to transforming your workspace container and repairing the shower is impressive! The new roof adds both functionality and charm. Great job!
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Well done, you guys. That workshop with its array of tools is worth protecting. 😊
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If you have wind in the structure, it will fly away ...
Believe me !
When counter sinking 4:55 use a low rpm an a bit more pressure, will give you a much better result and your drill bit will last a lot longer
Hi guys!
What an amazing new video again!
But I worry about your new roof
As many of us in the comments below, I really recommand you to reenforce the fondation of the two legs
A not so strong wind may collaps the hole new roof.
Be shure to slot them into the ground (maybe with a 50cm sides bloc of concrete could be enougth)
and maybe put twice more screws to fix the metal sheets.
I studyed a bit of structure engineering, your roof is too light compared to it's area
And I really don't need any math to assure there is a risk there
Hope this roof will survive !
And it will give you more shadow than a rain cover that you can share us such many sunny views of your kamp!
With love
Coco
I enjoy welding and making things with all mediums. Little by little, things are improving there.
To really preasure wash the boards and the floor, they need to use that pressure washer closer to the surface, making the effect stronger.
I love ALL Project Kamp videos!
The first windy day; this roof is going to fly
Not sure why they tried making the roof perfectly flat. You want water to run off. And shouldn’t they have used roofing screws with rubber washers?
@@chickadeeacres3864 it is a very big plain surface with free access below. I bet that they are going to have problems.
@@chickadeeacres3864 The roof is visibly at an angle. 15:10 explains it. "Making it flat" is relative to the plane described by the roof beams, not towards the ground.
At 19:41 is the segment with the screws, including rubber washers. I agree that it's confusing, because he's preparing the screws differently - with an extra washer - than what he uses for the roof. Though the roof screw still has a rubber washer.
Two things:
Precious plastic shower base and duck boards seems like an opportunity for recycling/upcycling.
You need to anchor the new workspace roof waaaay better at the front to stop it being bent up by strong winds. At least 600x600x600 mm of concrete into footings dug into the ground. Currently nothing but luck is anchoring it.
Go team!
Doesn't have to be concrete cubes dug into the ground, I think, but at least 1000kg per pole would give this roof a fair chance in a storm.
Or anchor it into the ground in some other way...
May i just say how impressed I am with you're efforts on re-using left over items....may I say you could get away with making a shower tray from your composite plastics the same as you did with the toilet seat. No more worries about it wearing away, and you could have a drain incorporated into it for the soak away of water.
Maybe they wanted to try the newer cement material. But I agree! With plastics that would last a few thousand years.
The steel stock you put on the roof should all be sticking a little over the edge so you can see what you have available without having to climb up and look every time you need something. You can also keep track of each pieces current length in chalk right below it.
You can aim closer with the pressure cleaner next time, that way even the algae come off easy 🤙🏼
To get the roof straight, use a string connected at the highest and lowest points (along each edge), then raise or lower until the string meets the other supports.
My guess that issue with misalignment of holes was due to poor fixation of vice during drilling process. It was clearly shown in the video
When you stored the extra metal, you should use some of it to weld together a ladder of the correct length to access the store. Pretty easy for it to slip when it is laid over so much like that. In fact weld it to the container at the top too, then its secure.
Didn't comment for a while, but there are a couple things about this vid I would like to say :)
First, you're living the dream, this is one huge playground for grown ups, so nice!
Get yourself a line cross laser for easier leveling, angling etc. They are relatively cheap and I use them for almost every project in our house.
Under the cement blocks, add a thin layer of gravel, then condense it. It will support water drainage.
Lastly regarding wind: please listen to that other comment and add weight. You just built yourself a nice wind sail :D Probably the bolts holding the sheets would pop first, but you never know.
Great job guys. That roof looks solid and a nice space to work under. I love your attention to detail with rust removal before painting etc, shows real pride and care for your work.
Great design for water flow in the foot well too. Very ingenious.
I love you project, I think is a wonderful way to help make the world a better place. Hope I can do something as well sometime in the future. Keep going!
There is one thing I noticed that I'm worried about. In my workspace we had a few accidents over the years, most of them related with to being too comfortable doing it and loosing focus of the security. Silly stuff but with some disgusting outcomes. I've seen you guys unload heavy materials like steal beams in flip flops. Please wear some safety boots. Accidents can happen in a fraction of a second and those flip flops are not going to save the day.
Does anyone else feel like hugging Adrian. He’s such an adorable teddy bear!
been his fan since I thought he was Italian in S1, lol.
He’s my favorite!!!
Warning!
Never wear working gloves when working with a drill press.
The drill can catch in the fabric and tear off your fingers!
Lesson number one in technical school..
Isn't the wind going to pick up that big sail? Maybe the weight of the roof is not an issue.
The new metel roof you built should have a gutter to catch water and then drop down in the corner to a water storage container. To be used for plants and other things . Even cleaning
Every roof should have that
Hello from Australia, I’ve been very busy watching all these upload from start to finish. You all have done a fantastic job on fixing things up and improving a lot great job everyone
There are clamps designed to fit the corner blocks of ISO containers.
Commericial fabricators use muriatic acid/spirit of salts to clean off rust.
DIY, I suggest you use distilled spirit vinegar or saturated citric acid.
Zinc base primers would also neutralise light rust like you had.
Hehe greetings from Spain, I'm interested on seeing how the fix on the shower basin holds, interesting material :) Lots of love for all of you guys, I love love love your editing, I'm so happy to see the videos improving in quality, it seems you have found a formula that works wonders for your content 🥰
The videography and music were outstanding! One of the best episodes so far - well done.
I'm afraid that capping concrete or cement is not a good idea. The new layer wont bond properly to the bottom layer and I would not be surprised to see you revisit this project in a year or 2. The best thing to do is to remove the entire basin and start over. Seal that and you should have a long lasting shower floor. I hope I am wrong. I love all the hard work you are doing and the content you share.
The next shower project should probably be… more showers? Given the number of kampers they have this season, one shower feels like far too few. So when more showers go up, they can implement your more robust solution.
Stijn is such a cool name!
I love when you present new people!
Great work!!! What about rainwatercatchment from the workshoproof?
I am in love with the project camp and where he is going one day I will come to visit😇
Have you considered stretch tents for shade structures during the busier months? Shaded portable workshop spaces around the property. They are great for rain as well, just not sure how long they will last if never taken down. Great for lounge areas as well, so many useful purposes.
Now you have several roofs, have you considered rain water catchment systems to collect rainwater?
Mix water, a few drops of dishsoap and vinegar (maybe 1/4 or 1/5) spray on the wood in the shower and brush. After mix water and 1/10 "såpa" (tried to find the english translation from swedish but i only get "soap", in dutch I get "Groene zeep"?)
This will clean and also give the tree some resistance from algee as well as condition it (and it's ecofriendly).
Perfect roof for solar panels!
Great update! Hope you fasten the beams of the roof to the ground at one point.
Loving these vids and what you're about and what you're doing! Something that resonated especially this episode was your guy (sorry I forget his name but I think the American fellow?) mentioned feeling like he needed to get physical and connect beyond what he had been trained to do and doing previously as a Product Designer. I love that he looks so happy being a part of your team. Win!!
Impressive work on the roof guys, very commendable.
@0:45 Love seeing the ipod classic in a dock. that brings back so many memories.
I really enjoy watching the waterworks here, because that really seems like a long term difference in comfort!
The pressure cleaning looked super satisfying! That magnesium cement seems really interesting, I'm keen to learn more - I'll have to check out your research
To avoid rust between container roof and outfits on the roof. It helps to separate mild steel from the roof of the container with a small piece of wood across.
I'd love to see what sort of paint pigments you could make from what's around you! I'm sure there are interesting minerals and plants that could add some eventual natural variation to the black paint. It looks sharp, for sure though! These videos are a highlight of my week, thank you for sharing your community work with us
Hey Kampers..... water support here........ one idea is to have gutters to catch all that rain water from each roof with a filter system...... more water collected the better....
Love the content. Please keep the videos coming. Congratulation on the roof upgrade. I believe that will make workshop projects alot more enjoyable. If I may make a suggestion for in future if ever fitting another roof again. Always drill your holes 1 or 2mm oversize. Never tighten any nuts until you have all the parts fitted with the bolts. This way you will have a little "wiggle room". That should make getting everything aligned much easier and then you can go through and make everything tight. Just a suggestion 🙂
Instead of using your eyes to see if the support legs are making the roof flat, you can use a string tied to the back and front cross members so that when it is just barely touches the inner cross members, the roof will be flat.
Free Tip: Install screw-in ground anchors and attach them to the posts so the wind doesn't rip your nice new roof off.
awesome storage on top of storage container! Congratulations on your successful upgrade!
That roof is certainly not going to blow away! When I cut bolts to length like you do around 12:00 I like to put the nut on first then cut and chamfer the bolt. When you screw the nut back off it cleans up the threads on the way out.
that is what he did 12:16
@@jetblack2602 Oh. So he did. Ignore whatever I said.
The kit and the knowhow you guys have is amazing. And attention to detail. If I was doing a roof it would be 2x4 with tin sheets attached, which would last 6 month 😂.
Lovely progress on the roof and refreshing the shower.
Fantastic job with the roof, guys! May I suggest that you put gutters on the back of the roofs, attach downpipes, and water butts, so that you have more water available for your gardens and any future expansions. Could you run pipes from these to your water cistern/well by the road during the wet/winter months, or as an overflow if you get a prolonged/heavy period of rainfall, so that it's filled as much as possible? You could make some kind of valve so that you can control whether water goes straight into the cistern/well, or stays in the butts for easier access (i.e. for watering your gardens). I'm no engineer, so I don't know how you would do it, but I'm sure your collective minds could work it out! I think that when you come to planting more of your own food, it would be a great idea to run a drip hose buried a few inches/cm below ground so that the plants will be watered regularly, and there'll be little to no evaporation, as is the case with watering above ground. What do you think?
items: for safety - in my neck of the woods :)
1. roof feet need footers below frost line -- those pads will lift in a storm and split the roof or could be bumped
2. Header across the front 16' :( (i didn't see one) the bow of the metal will pop the roof screws over time as in contracts and expands.
3. Ground the roof - test the roof for proper grounding with the container with a real earth ground.
4. Pressure wash - might need bleach to kill green mold - water proof will last a season - every year - r
5. get some used tile and tile a surround or plaster the wall -- secret to shower make it large 4 x 4 so water doesn't hit walls so much then wood is fine
6. just set a normal shower base and tile it with a drain line
maybe not for your area - just thoughts ...
U have to install reinforced concrete bases to the front posts. The roof will fly in case of strong winds.
any of the second hand stores have beach umbrellas with or without fabric, you can add the canvas, Kevin can.
You need foundation for those roof legs, you did every thing except the critical bit
Stijn looky like a great addition to the team!
I remember when you cut the hole in the container many moons ago! Great to see it in action again :)
Wonderful. Are you considering to harvest water from those nice big roofs?
For future projects, Step 1: wire brush loose rust. Step 2: degrease. Step 3: Treat rust with a product called Ospho (Osphoric Acid). Last tep: Paint. Osphoric acid chemically converts iron oxide into iron phosphate, which is stable (no more rust). The result is a primer like surface. It works well.
Kudos for the professional filming and video editing, excellent storytelling!
Suspect ton´s of "killed darlings" behind the final result :-)!
You really need to improve the foundations of the new roof! When there's wind, it'll fly off!!!!
OUTSTANDING!!!
Nice Job To You All!
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15:45 just use a thin rope, so you can check very accurate.
You wonderful young “band of gypsies” never cease to amaze me with your ENERY, RESOURCEFULNESS AND INGENUITY….you do everything RIGHT……no short cuts or sloppy jobs 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
A good rust converting paint would have done away with the tedious sanding.
Yay for the video being uploaded in 4K!
Love the workshop roof! Great use of standard size steel for framing. The new cement work looks amazing! Look around for some free or cheap ceramic tile, and then do 2 showers at once when you're ready. Peak season is over 35 people, right? Might want that second shower sometime. Ceramic tiling on the pizza oven might help, too.
Just rewatched the workshop container build and wondered when a new video about it would come along.
Thinking of doing something similar here to attach to a new shed here in New Zealand.
With this type of assembly, washers should not be fitted, but rather normal spring washers. The washer can turn unnecessarily and loosen the nut in the process. A countersink should always be used with cutting oil and at low speeds.