TOYOTA WS ATF simple and easy with using scangauge. Changing Toyota WS atf fluid. AMSOIL ATF super
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This video is about changing and checking WS AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID level in TOYOTA/LEXUS using scangauge. Also, how to switch from WS ATF to AMSOIL ATF.
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repairvehicle wanted to know my gs300 2006 the oil come out about 5 quart total.is that the right amount I'm the 3 owners not sure it the right amount?I put what come out 5 quart?thank you
+Kamsorn Than, does your GS has transmission dipstick?
repairvehicle no dipstick on 2006 gs300 only overflow tube
+Kamsorn Than, there is really no way to tell how much fluid should be in your transmission without connecting Scan tool and reading temperature and draining extra. Unless someone else online have performed ATF fluid change on the same car as yours and measured and posted results online. Because I don't know if 5 quarts is too much or just perfect.
For me, I think the $150 scanner is just too expensive for DIYers. Since you have the tool, can you show us the correlation between a infrared scanner and the scangauge. Maybe, let the car idle for 5 or 10 min to warm up the transmission, and measure both readings. I assume they would all be warmed up and the oil pan should reach equilibrium easily (because it's metal) with the warm fluid inside. As the they both cool down, can you draw a plot figure with time on x axis, and temperature of scangauge/infrared on y axis? If they are not too off, like scangauge shows 114, and infrared shows 105, I think that can save me $150. Thanks.
I successfully finished first transmission fluid drain and replace procedure on Lexus RX 350 2016 @60,000 miles using Amsoil Signature Series Fuel-Efficient Synthetic Automatic Transmission Fluid. To be safe I purchased 8 quarts of fluid. This video is excellent thank you Mr. Repairvehicle! I just wanted to point out something new. For 2016 RX 350 you will need T40 for outer drain bolt then you will need 17mm hex to remove overflow straw tube assembly. Always remove your fill bolt first before draining using 24mm socket. First draining yielded about 3.4 quarts. So I filled with 3.4 then took car for test drive using all transmission modes. Second draining also yielded slightly discolored fluid about the same 3.4 quarts came out. So I filled again with 3.6 then using Scangauge II with car running and leveled I opened outer drain bolt and about half quart of fluid was drained in excess. After transmission fluid temperature #1 reading hit 104F I fastened the T40 bolt to reseal transmission pan. So in conclusion I have 1 quart extra Amsoil just in case I need. The car runs amazing! Same as it did before but now with new synthetic fluid :)
thank you for commenting.
@@repairvehicle Hopefully that will help someone else because I had to ride my bike to hardware store to get the 17mm hex wrench LOL
Interesting! I got a 2016 RX 450h. Same as yours but hybrid. I’m pretty lucky. My transmission fluid change will be exactly like changing a differential. I don’t even have to mess with getting it to a certain temperature. I just drain, and fill to the the top and it’s done👍
This is hands down the best diy video that I've seen for this procedure. I used to work for toyota and I liked everything in this video, the only thing I would have done differently is at 12:06 I usually let the trickle of atf turn into more of a drip before putting the plug in as this shows that the level of of the fluid is truly meeting the tip of the red check tube. If there is still a stream the level is still technically too high but I doubt it's high to the point where it will hurt anything.
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would a cold level drain and fill with the exact amount came out work too. .
It depends if you were original owner?
yes, 10 Camry Le. use Amsoil or Redline only.
Just checked my level this weekend. As I suspected, the dealership left it underfilled at the last fluid exchange. Thanks to YOUR VIDEOS and the Scangauge, I had the knowledge, tool and confidence to do this. Thank you. I’ve already shared your videos with others.
Thank you.
You know what’s crazy - when I bought my Lexus brand new it came underfilled. The transmission made loud gear sounds. I brought to service and they said this is the way the car should sound. Later after adjusting levels on my own - all the noise went away .. SMH
Yikes! I have thought of allowing the dealership to perform this service on my tacoma. Since a person cannot monitor how they do it, then it is impossible to see if the technician does it properly, and transmissions without the right amount of fluid can appear to be fine for a period that makes it past the warranty period. In fact, they could say they perform it and never even perform the service at all; and without checking you may never know.
@@troy3456789 exactly. New doesn't mean perfect in every way. Now I'm curious about the weird shifts and sluggish response
i had this service done at my local mechanic, what made you think they underfilled it? i noticed after i had the service done, the transmission is shifting a little hard when cold, after about a minute it shifts back to normal, i heard that could be a symptom of low fluid, cause when it warms up and expands it hides the low fluid condition
That really is the right way. Been doing it like this for years. Never fails.
Thanks for detailed instructions, this really helped me out doing drain and fill on 2013 Lexus ES350 with 58k miles. I ordered 7 quarts of amsoil SS ATF and drained cold WS fluid removing overflow tube, 2 full quarts came out, then I filled 2 quarts and installed just the drain plug without the tube, I ran engine for 5 minutes shifting gears into R and D, then I turned off engine and drained fluid and repeated the same procedure with filling in another 2 quarts, then I filled final 3 quarts, installed back the overflow tube and waited for trans temp to cool, I was using Techstream software on my laptop, it came free with $15 Ebay cable purchase. Once the ATF temp cooled to under 100 degrees I started the engine and started final drain at 105 degrees, when I was done the ATF temp was at 110. My car now drives like it was meant to be driven, before Amsoil ATF change I could hear a whining sound right before the gear changes coming from what I thought was the engine but now I know it was the transmissions torque converter not getting the friction it needed from the poor quality WS fluid which looked brownish red. Now my car feels like a powerhouse and very smooth. I would definitely recommend Amsoil SS fuel efficient ATF, I really love it!
Thank you for sharing your experience with Amsoil.
You left out the most important info needed. How much came out on your final drain?
Yeah how much came out on your final drain using the tube? It would appear that just adding the extra quart you loose most of the extra quart. Seems like on a cold motor draining 2 quarts and then replacing with 2 quarts would be likely have you where you want to be.
I don't remember, unless I have mentioned in the video. I will be doing another one soon.
@@repairvehicle No worries my question was for the original person that left the comment. Seems like you do lose a good amount of that extra fluid even from your video I see. I'm thinking of removing when warm to get most out then mark the amount removed then let sit overnight see how much the fluid drops when room temp and just adding that amount back in. My guess it drops 10% in volume at room temp. Why didnt Toyota make straw height lower for room temp fluid...didnt want shade tree mechanics I guess.
I did this yesterday and it worked PERFECTLY!!!!!!
My 2012 Camry has felt like "it's slipping" upon the first drive of the day. Forward or reverse, for quite a while.
In the "olden days" this usually indicated that the trans fluid was low.
This has been happening since I had the trans serviced by the local Toyota dealer at 100K miles, it now has 172K.
And the bastards charged me almost 500 bucks to have this done!
Anyways.....the car recently threw a MIL. Upon checking it with a ScanTool 3140 it came back with 2 transmission errors.
Something about a 4th gear servo and a error with a OD solenoid related to the torque converter.
Sounds to me like dirty or dead trans fluid.
Wow, a replacement trans is $3500.00!!!!
So I did this fix using 3 quarts of Valvoline Maxlife ATF.
I already have a ScanGage in my Tundra, so I used that for the fluid temps.
3 quarts was perfect! After the warm up about a 1/4 of a quart came out and then it was buttoned up.
Codes are gone and the weird surging and what felt like a miss in high gears (usually lugging the car a little) are GONE!!!!!
Thanks repairvehicle !!!! I really appreciate your hard work on this!!!!!!!!
+Ray Marinello , you are welcome. Please subscribe and share my video with others.
Will do, Thanks!
Extremely thankful for this video, it really helped. I got 2015 Venza and will be changing ATF my self.
+Nazarettos , you are welcome.
GOOD TEACHER. SCAN GUAGE COMES IN HANDY. THOUGHT ABOUT RETURNING MINE... BUT I KEPT IT. 💯
It doesn't work on Toyotas
Yeah, might as well keep it. Or have to buy it again each time you do the job
Thankyou for this video. Changed fluid in my 6cyl Toyota Venza with 70000 miles. Old fluid was still in good shape and less than 2 quarts came out. Added 2 quarts and drained excess.
You are welcome.
Venza transmission capacity is 6 Quarts, and you missed changing the transmission filter. You must drive the car and do the fluid change three times at least for acceptable fluid change, two quarts is NOT a fluid change, lol...
You have a few good DIY videos How to change ATF in Toyota without the dipstick. Have you considered to make detailed video how to change ATF filter on Lexus RX 350, 2013-2015.
It is simple, but there is one issue - the vehicle's frame is blocking one of the trans. pan bolt, and to remove it the frame bolt has to be removed and engine has to be lifted 3 cm.
You will be the first one who makes such DIY video in details.
Thanks for the feedback. I going to look into this and see what is going on.
An experienced mechanic, before draining the oil, always checks that the filler plug can be unscrewed ...
That’s what I do always
Excellent video. I have watched a dozen other videos on this subject and this is the best one I've seen. Follows the Toyota service bulletin to the word.
Thank you!
Great video! Did my 2011 Toyota Avalon today. Only got about 1.5 qts out. Added 2,did temp check and good. I plan to do it at least 4 more times. Amsoil fan here as well. Amsoil transmission fluid kept us from doing repair work on 2005 Honda Odyssey. We have 234k on that now and running strong.
Thank you for sharing your experience with Amsoil.
What was going on with your Odyssey transmission that Amsoil fixed? This seems extraordinary to me.
I was getting a judder around 40mph. I think it was torque converter trying to decide rather to lock or not. Turns out shortly after switch to Amsoil, Honda changed viscosity of their ATF. BTW, our daughter continues to drive the Oddy....289k and still no transmission work.
Nice to see a simple practical method for checking fluid levels on sealed Toyotas. The video at WeberAuto for Toyota Transaxle Fluid Level Check - No Dipstick is like a 4 hour job (for me), and I don't have the vacuum pump and other exotic tools.
This sealed transmission concept is engineering nightmare. If they want to give us a sealed transmission, give a OBDII scan read out on the level, or better yet, a gauge with level and temp.
I like synthetic as it has better properties. Will have to see if it meets Toyota ATF M-V (Type 5) requirements.
everyone should subscribe to this channel this guy deserves more subscribers.
Ancient History hi
I recently got a 2015 1.3L Yaris here in the UK with a CVT,has 90,000m,the inside tube was yellow not red & it took 2.2L. I got the proper fluid Toyota CVT FE fluid. £42. Still got 2.3L left,so i may use the rest in 2 yrs time. Oh,on mine,no need to remove the wheel or splash guard,able to do it from the top,under the hood,used a hose & funnel to fill it up,you know like American school kids who use a hose & funnel to drink beer,chanting "chug,chug,chug" it was like that lol Quick and easy to do.
Came across this video again 2 yrs later! I forgot to mention a week later after posting my comment i drained & re filled again using up the rest of the CVT fluid. It's running smooth as silk 2yrs later.
Awesome! Thanks for making this video. Frustrating that most transmissions are going the way of being way too difficult to service. But I'll be doing mine with this knowledge! Thank you
Have 100K miles on my 2011 Sequoia, replaced some of the power steering fluid with Amsoil ATF and it was
a major improvement / feel in the winter PS operation.
Very smart move on power steering. I will be doing on my Sequoia in couple months.
Does it make the pump whine ?
What are you referring to?
Is the power steering pump whining at all with the amsoil atf ? I’m in the process of changing out my power steering fluid of my 2009 es 350 and am using Valvoline MaxLife ATF . Just want to know how the van took to the amsoil .
@@YaBoYJi, not sure what you mean. Pump will wine if it's worn out. My pump is not worn out and amsoil fluid doesn't make pump to be noisy.
For anyone interested, the fill hole is 18mm wide so the tube needs to be sufficiently smaller than that to go into and bend downwards into the fill hole since something blocks it not too far in.
Thank u very much for clearing that up for me thank you for your help and informative videos have a great nite
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Thanksfor info!
No need to jack up just make sure you’re on level ground. Also, turn steering wheel all the way to the left so you have easy access to two 10mm bolts to remove plastic cover and 24mm to remove fill bolt. Makes job SO much easier!!👍🏼
And you can reach the plug ok...edit I tried and yea your right I can reach the plug pretty easy. Yea no real need to jack the car up if you have semi longer arms.
Yeah even without level ground what I did - use planks of wood under the tires to level the car and get enough clearance to open the drain plug once it’s at the specified temperature.
Repairvehicle, thank you for this step by step video. I was able to preform this service on my 4Runner. Thank you again!
Thanks for the instructions. I used this information to better understand all that is involved. I decided to keep things simple. I just got finished replacing the transmission oil that drained out. I drained from the cold transmission, measured the exact quantity by filling the oil into a 2 litter clear juice container, then I used another exact juice container to fill new oil to the exact same height. I refilled the transmission with this quantity , it was about 1.5 litres. I will probably go through this routine at each oil change. The 2010 RX 350 has 107 000km and looked dirty but not too bad, could still make out that it was red when some dripped on my hand. I used the toyota WS fluid as it is only $7.50 Canadian , half the price of the Amsoil, plus I don't like mixing fluid types.
My brother in law has 2008 RX 350, he is using Amsoil and has 240k miles on it and no problems thanks to Amsoil.
Get what you pay for
Very informative video. Because of my budget, I was thinking of just draining some fluid into a container and then checking the temperature directly from there with a digital thermometer. Once it's in the right temperature range, then I drain the overflow.
I don’t think this is a good idea because it will cool immediately once out. You can buy bootleg Toyota Techstream kits on EBay for cheap. However you will need a laptop PC.
@@norakat True, but my idea was to check the temp immediately as it's draining into the container. Sure there'll be some heat loss but it'll be miniscule. This option is if I don't have an OBD temp check.
Thank you for your this informative video. My Scangauge came this week and will be working on this project this weekend on our 2008 Avalon. Keep you posted....
Yes Amsoil absolutely the best oil out there. 👍 excellent video and thanks for the scanner recommendation.
Thank you for commenting.
Liquimoly also very good. I use it in my European cars.
Amsoil is the best for sure! It protects engine wear the best in my experience.
What are you driving?
I can vouch Amsoil did make moderate reduction in transmission noise after 3 drain and replaces of fluid on a 81k mile 13 ES 350.
Edit i just did initially a drain and replace didnt measure fluid. I did that later and somehow it was overfilled about 10 ozs and now much more quiet at proper level. I think some cars from factory are overfilled. Now the transmission is very quiet.
I think one of the worst things to come from lack of transmission fluid dipstick is the inability to monitor the fluid by simply looking at its color and fluid level. I do not know who's idea it was to delete the dipstick, but I am certain it was a bad idea. Inspecting and servicing the fluid should be easier than this.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm sure it will help many others.
I love the scanguage tool.
Tell me. Why didn't you replace the internal filter ??
I also noticed this on your Camry video too.
This video has explanation. ruclips.net/video/IhZ4YHrhNeI/видео.html
I got a little worried when you over filled the transmission but good on you for using the correct procedure! I would stick with oem Toyota fluid tho!
Oem fluids is worse stuff to use unless changing fluid every 30k miles like it used to be. With amsoil atf, transmission shifts better, even better fuel economy.
Amsoil fuel efficient ATF is WS rated. Only thing I use .
Leave it to an engineer to make something simple into something complicated and difficult.
they do it on purpose...this is what corporate wants
I subscribed to your channel because of this video. I followed this procedure and I went with Amsoil ATF. My 12 Camry V6 shifts smoothly again.
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Holy crap you explained it really simply. Other videos just made it confusing! Thank you!
Just wondering, is it bad to shut the engine off once you get the fluid to the right temp?
Turning engine off for what purpose?
repairvehicle so that once the fluid gets to the range you shut off the engine so the transmission fluid doesn't get any hotter.
While engine is running, you remove the drain plug and drain extra fluid. Please watch my video again, you can hear engine running.
the best video on this job, on you tube, without any doubt!
Thank you
Thank you 🙏🏼 my man very informative information on Toyota’/Lexus transmission!!!!!👷🏼♂️👍
Any time!
by far the best and accurate video for changing CVT transmission fluid on Toyota cars. Thanks,
Thank you.
Its not a CVT transmission in this car. Its a ECT. Electronically Controlled Automatic Transmission (ECT)
It's not CVT dummy.
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If you expect everyone to be as smart as you, then who's the dummy?
At the end he said "Im gonna twerk it" lol jokes aside thanks really good job
lol
Best explanation I've seen by far! Many thanks.
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You could just put in exactly what you drained out. That's assuming a level was correct but if you had no leaks and it should be if it was Factory filled. I think I'll do a couple drain and fills on mine.
Yes you can.
But you have to drain cold and refill cold bc the fluid expands when hot.
Aisin Automatic Transmission Fluid ATF-0WS
, pricey but good stuff. I have a 2008 Lexus ES 350. Drained and filled 2 times. I had exactly 4 quarts of fluid that drained out after the two drains. I put two quarts back in both times. Shifts perfect.
@@poman911 What's your point and what do you consider "cold"?
Cool, very easy to follow instructions. Thanks. 2020 Tacoma here
Glad it helped
Planning to replace atf or add transmission cooler?
@@repairvehicle yes, I use amsoil for all vehicles so need to replace that Toyota oil asap.
I just switched to Amsoil signature ATF. I did two drains. The difference is unbelievable. It is the way a Lexus transmission should feel. I've always felt a distinct shift between first and second gear from the car being brand new. I don't feel that bump anymore. Also after changing the oil in the pan with Toyota ATF WS the transmission whine sound temporarily went away, but then the sound came came back after a couple of months. Hopefully this time it won't come back. There is definitely something wrong with the Toyota ATF WS oil.
norakat, thank you for outstanding comment and sharing your personal experience.
my 2009 rx350 atf at 100,000 miles is still clear bright red on dipstick,
should probably still replace with amsoil blue cap right? gr8 videos thanks
It's because it has been replaced
Here's the link and u should replace the fluid www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-and-light-truck/2009/lexus/rx350/3-5l-6-cyl-engine-code-2grfe-a/us-volume/?zo=5257753
This is a good video, but to be honest, if the fluid was as bad looking as you say, I think I would be dropping the pan and replacing the filter and cleaning the sludge from the bottom of the pan.
Great video and thank you, how many times in a row did you drain and refill this vehicle and did you drive the car for a certain amount of miles in between changes? Also what do you think about the Amsoil OE fuel efficient atf for a RAV4?
I did only one drain and fill. I replaced my fluid when vehicle had around 46k miles, if I am not mistaking. OE is great product and definitely better than Toyota WS. I prefer best for my vehicles and I use only SS in all of my Toyotas and Ford.
Amsoil!! Drain & fill 4x! Each drain is 3ish qts= 11.7 total capacity
Nice Slavic dialect and good info. Thanks.
Hi - great video. Have you tried comparing the reading between ScanGuage and laser thermometer to see how close or off they are? Would be a good video that may (or may not) highlight the difference in readings. Thanks again for making informative content (Subscribed). JD
I have not tried. But results will be very different because of the outside temperature.
I'm sure you're right but was hoping since you have both tools, would be interesting to see the reading side by side. Just a thought. Thanks again.
I will definitely keep in mind your idea.
Others have done that. It's usually only two or three degrees difference.
Ambient air temperature around the outside of the transmission would effect the surface temp of the transmission. I am sure there is a consistent air temp and exterior temp that could be matched up to the right fluid temperature inside. It would take a lot of work to discover what the variances are. Since ambient temperatures can be all over the map, it would have to be an unreliable way of servicing the fluid. If a person used the scan gauge to check the fluid level is at 105 degrees, then they could measure ambient air temp, then use infrared measurement of the surface of the transmission and then document the 3 temperatures in a no-wind environment. You would have to recreate the perfect ambient temperature with no wind for a given surface temperature to be an accurate way of knowing when the fluid level can be checked upon servicing. When you see all the factors created to make an accurate surface temperature, then you can see why using the scan gauge is the easiest way to be certain of the fluid temperature.
Best video by far on CVTs fluid change!!! Thanks
It's not CVT transmission, it's 6 speed automatic.
repairvehicle I thought all non-dipstick and close systems are CVT designs. I drive a 2017 Corolla and it’s design looks exactly like in the video. Am I missing something? Thanks
Just because it doesn't have dipstick it doesn't mean it's CVT transmission. Your Corolla CVT transmission has metal belt inside transmission. CVT transmission in Toyota hybrid has no belts and no clutches like regular automatically transmission. Toyota stopped using dipstick on transmissions back in 2007, CVT transmission in Corolla introduced back in 2012 if I am not mistaking.
@@repairvehicle
It is my understanding that only Toyota hybrids have eCVTs. And not all Toyota's are without dipsticks from 2007 on. Our 2009 RAV4 has a dipstick.
@@repairvehicleI have a 2013 Corolla LE that still has a dipstick
Hi! Thank you very much for your videos, much appreciated! I see you are from PA? What part of PA are you from?
Thanks for this - from 'overseas'
Have a questions. 2011 es350. Can I do it without scan tool? I drained 3 times (only 1 qt and a half each time came out) with 10 min engine idling in between and transmission shifting. Is that enough? I replaced it with the same amount I drained.
+spearogoods, yes you can do without tool, assuming you have correct amount of fluid inside transmission now. 10 minutes idling is enough.
repairvehicle thank you for quick respond.
+spearogoods, no problem.
Thank you so much for this excellent video.
Thanks for video. How about transmission filter. Peace
What year is your car?
repairvehicle 2010 Toyota Venza
Is it mandatory or recommended?
How many miles on it and has fluid been changed before?
Mandatory or recommended what?
Great video! I bought a scan gauge just for this service on my 2018 Lexus ES350 with 24k miles. Did you go through the gears before reaching 104 degrees? I’m a little confused on that part. Thanks and keep up the great work.
No I didn’t
little simple change out transmission fluid old day, now Toyota make so difficult no dip stick come on Toyota.
Is it just a rumor or did I hear right, that Toyota started putting transmission dipsticks back in their vehicles?
It's just a rumor for now, they might put it back.
@@repairvehicle We had a 2016 Mazda 6. They said their fluid was lifetime too and there was no visible dipstick. But if you took out the air filter housing there was a dipstick but it was bolted to the transmission. Just take out the bolt and you could check the fluid level.
@@njsongwriter , Mazda is not Toyota. Toyotas don't have dipstick for transmission since 2009 at least, even earlier for some vehicles.
ATF temp 95-113F for 2015 Avalon limited ? Drain plug 30 ft # & Fill plug 36 ft # ? Great video and excellent detail 👍👍
I will get back to you tomorrow evening with answers to your questions. If you don’t hear from me tomorrow evening, remind me again
@@repairvehicle Thank you! I’m also having difficulty finding the right crush washers for the drain and fill bolts.
Hybrid?
ATF temp 104 to 113F. drain plug 30ft-lb. Fill plug 36ft-lb. I go to the dealer for crush washers. You can find it online but its easier for me stop by the dealer and get washers. I always ask for discount, and usually get 15% off. Thank you very much for supporting my channel though by me a coffee.
@@repairvehicle Thank You for The Best Information and for replying. My bad- It’s not a hybrid. Local dealer told me yesterday that I need the serial # off the tranny to get both the right crush washers & drain/fill plugs. The drain plug may be tapered or straight shank thus the reason requiring the #. None are in stock so has to order🤣 (tried 3 dealerships). I could probably reuse all, but I’m a rookie so want to take extra precautions. Thanks again for your content and Help, I’m looking forward to getting on this project (67k miles)and having a piece of mind, just that Toyota is making a little more difficult than Honda. 🤷♂️
step 1: you drained it when the car was not at the 104 degrees F
step 2: you filled it with 3 quarts of amsoil
step 3: you let fluid level heat to 104 degrees F and drained it again until light trickling
after step 3, did you more fluid back in, or are you simply just draining it out to put it at the correct level?
Correct level
I added more than needed, and then drained extra when it reached proper temperature.
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Great video, helped me a lot. THANK YOU. One question I didn't see asked below. Why is there overflow fluid? If my transmission has never been flushed, and you have flushed yours before AND you follow all the steps that include draining the excess then why do you and myself still have so much excess that drains out when repeating the process a few days later?
You have to add extra in order to get correct fluid level.
Probably there is more fluid in pan when engine is off. When its working there is lower amount in pan. Am I right?
Yes
toyota stealership lied to me about there fluid I called and ask if it was sythentic and then they said yes it's the best fluid and then I asked him the bottle doesn't say it's synthetic and then he called his manager and his manager said it's not sythentic wow way to lie to customers what a dishonest stealership...
Ancient History, I know that Toyota transmission fluid is not synthetic. I have mentioned that in one of the videos.
toyota dealership told me that toyota transmission oil is good for 100,000 miles... why do they say this.
Ancient History, as you known by now Toyota dealer is not telling you the truth. They have not provided you with a any proof that fluid is good for 100k? Toyota is realizing that they are making money on repairs like their competitors. Toyota cars are super reliable. They want people to believe that fluid is good for 100k and people don't realize that regular fluid cannot go for 100k without causing serious damage to the inside of the transmission. It's in dealers advantage to have damaged transmission so they can make more money.
there is some company called Schafer oil and they say there oil is better then amsoil have you heard anything about that oil brand?
Ancient History, I know about the Schaffer oil. I have not seen any proof on their website that they are better than Amsoil. Also, they don't even make 100% synthetic motor oil. How can they claim that without providing any information to back it up?
Do you replace the filter (dealer calls it strainer) ? Dropping the pan to do this. ....
It depends on the year and model
Great video and well explain, thanks for taking the time and share your knowledge.
Another note of interest is that when you use the onboard system (going from park to drive back and forth and using the D light), it locks it into RPM hold mode apparently at 800 RPMs. I see yours is at 660 RPMs. Not sure how a big a deal that is in the overall process but my guess would be higher RPMs would mean more fluid is in torque converter and not in the pan out and hence lean more to the higher end of the temp range to compensate? Again might be fairly trivial point but just an observation
+condor5635, very good observation. Camry was 4 cylinder and es350 is 6 cylinder, not sure if it really matters.
I have notice this 800 RPM also, may be somewhat important to do.
I just did my ATF drain/fill on my 2011 Camry LE 2.5L 4 cyl based on this video. It went pretty smoothly but I have some concerns. First, when reinstalling the plastic level check tube, I did not encounter any resistance as you did. It just screwed all the way in easily with oily fingers. I even turned on it VERY gently with a small ratchet, and it was clearly seated. After the drain, about 2 1/4 quarts came out just as with yours. What was very different - unless I got something wrong - is that the temp range for setting the ATF level on this vehicle is 185 - 194 F... way hotter than your 104 F for some reason. I got this temp range from the Toyota dealer. In 3 distinct places in their service manual, it mentions getting the trans temp to this range. It was hard to get it this hot! I pretty much had to leave it in drive with the brake on from time to time. I did the initial drain at 185 F and the final (level set) drain once again at 185 F. When I opened the drain plug the final time, I let it slow to a weak dribble then closed it. I was surprised at how much came out. I didn't measure it but it seemed to be about a full quart, maybe a bit more. I now have a feeling that I may have removed more fluid than I put in. Car seemed to drive and shift fine afterwards. Also I have read that sometimes Toyotas are overfilled from the factory... so maybe all is ok? I hope...
Why were you using wrong temperature range if I showed you in the video correct range from Toyota service manual?
@@repairvehicle I was too cheap to subscribe to the information service to get the temp range from it. I didn't assume the car in the video is the same as mine or that it would have the same temp range. I figured Toyota dealer would tell me... and they did. But the procedure they printed for me is much more elaborate and uses special dealer tools. I assumed the temp range stated in that procedure would still be the same as in yours, but maybe my assumption was wrong. Would you be able to tell me the correct temperature check range from your source for this procedure on a 2011 Camry LE 2.5L 4 cylinder ?
Normal Operating Temperature
(40 to 45°C)
(104 to 113°F)
Update a year later after I've done this procedure now several times on 2 different 2011 4 cyl Camrys. The hot temperature range I got from the dealer the first time was for a different level check procedure... the "hot" procedure. In other words the customer brings the car into the shop and they cannot wait many hours or overnight for the transmission to cool to the lower range for the "cold" procedure as described in this video. The hot procedure doesn't use the level check tube and instead uses a very expensive set of tools that really only the Toyota dealer would have. When I went back to the dealership and talked to the tech again he said "ohhh... you want the cold temperature range" and told me that for a 2011 4-cyl Camry (2AR-FE) that range is 95 - 113 degrees F. Further, more than one person including RUclipsr "The Car Care Nut" has advised to set the level at the lower end of this range... right as the ScanGauge reads 95. If you set it at toward the higher end the trans might act fine when it warms up but might be a little low on fluid right after a cold start when it's still cold.
Since he was using the red tube as a guage, he had removed too much out of the transmission at this temperature.
Suggest you check out the guy from WeberAuto for the complete details.
Oops have to correct myself after I double confirm with the service manual. The author is correct!!! Thanks for the video.
+AhYung Rocks, I followed factory instructions. WeberAuto does not following Toyota instructions. Also, he is using method and tools not approved in Toyota service manual.
+AhYung Rocks, you have use red tube. Thank you for commenting.
Thanks. That is good advice about not using the thermal temp guage. I was lucky doing my GM 6l50 trans , there a trans temp guage on the dash, I did not need a special tool.
That's awesome.
Gm has overflow tube like Toyota?
@@repairvehicle Yes , same tube, but I believe the tube is not removeable. So it makes a mess trying to drain the fluid.
great video, very helpful. It would have been nice to see scan tool temp vs ir thermo gun difference. cheers
I watched another RUclips video and it, the fluid temperatures were compared between the scan and IR tools, and they were both within .5 F. degrees of each other. But yes, I’m wanting to purchase a scan tool 😂😂😂
What was the temperature outside and humidity? Was it shown, because it makes a difference.
repairvehicle the ambient temperature and relative humidity were not shown, but in my humble opinion, would not drastically affect the external temperature measurement. One temperature sensor is internal and the other is external taken simultaneously at around the 108 F.
Unfortunately two different things. One is measuring fluid temperature on the inside and the other is measuring transmission pan temperature. But I will make a video on this subject very soon.
Great video. One question, wouldn't it be good since the transmission oil is changed to also change the transmission oil filter? Thanks for your time.
It depends on mileage and age of the vehicle
Hello! You have changed only part of the oil. For a complete change, repeat this several times until the oil is light. Remove the pan and change the filter is also necessary.
Filter change depends on mileage, year and model.
Very helpful video. Thanks for your great ful information 🌹👍👍👍
Thank You that is good one
How You check the temperature
Thank You again
You are welcome. What do you have and how many miles on it?
Mira loco! I like your videos but please! Please use jackstands!!!!! Do not rely on that POS factory scissor jack. Not safe for you to be under. at what mileage are you planning on changing the filter????
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Planning to change filter around 100k miles. However, it might not happen. I have purchased tundra with almost 1/4 million miles tundra and filter was never changed, fluid has been changed. Transmission shifts like low mileage my Lexus. I'm going to change filter on tundra and base on that I will determine if I should change filter at 100k or not.
Thanks for the great video. Very informative and step by step tutorial. Everything is very clear, only one step I would like to confirm.
To increase the temperature of transmission to 104 F. did you run the engine in neutral, or have to raise the vehicle and run on a low gear? I will appreciate your response
Vehicle must be in P, while engine is running.
@@repairvehicle thank you very much for the quick response. I am planning to shut off the engine after the temperature will rich 105 F. I am afraid that running the engine while draining ATF will increase the temperature and as hot fluid expands, I will drain more fluid than requested. What do you think?
@@stanislav9608, fluid expands slowly. You also have wide band from where fluid temperature should be. If you shut engine while fluid still trickles down, then fluid will just drain more because level of the fluid will be above the tube high point. When engine is not running fluid drains off back to the pan.
@@repairvehicle Thank you very much for detailed answer. I will follow all your steps coming summer.
Thanks for the usefull video
Very thorough and clear video. Thank you. But if it's still too dirty why not flush one more time? Two or three more times until fairly clean.
yes, you can and it should be done.
Can you do videos for newer models 2018 and up Toyota Rav4 and Lexus NX 200-300 F Sports
6 speed transmission or 8 speed?
2018 Rav4 2.5L 6 speed, 2019 Lexus NX300 F Sport 2.0L Turbo
I will put your request on my list.
When draining the old fluid should you run the engine for a while first to warm up the transmission to thin out the fluid's viscosity so that it drains more completely or are you supposed to drain when it's cold?
You supposed to drain when it’s cold, but being wormed up fluid doesn’t help draining more
@@repairvehicle Oh ok. When draining motor oil I warm up the engine first because I thought it helps it to drain better. Figured that might be the case with ATF as well. Thanks for the quick reply.
@skiggy007 when motor oil is cold drains slower but it’s draining less because everything gets drained to oil pan. Actually with engine you get more oil out when do you it next day when vehicle was not started for 24 hours or longer
Nice! I have question which Toyota you working on this video? And what year? Thanks!
2011 lexus es350
Hi, on the instruction paper, where the temperature chart, it says D SHIFT INDICATOR. And you show “ON” section of the chart. Does it mean that you measure the temperature with transmission on drive? I guess if it’s on Parking you should follow left section of chart with “OFF”, am I right?
Fluid temperature measured when vehicle is in P and engine running. There is another way to check fluid level without scangauge, that's why on and D is there.
repairvehicle thank you!
Sir, I have an idea, I think you will be interested. Can you take a laser temperature meter and measure the outside temperature of the pan at the moment when this super digital reader tool shows 104 degrees inside. To see what is the difference. This way we all can just use regular temperature meter
I duplicate make sure you see it
How are you going to duplicate outside air temperature and humidity that has effect on transmission pan temperature?
What year is your vehicle? What brand do you have?
repairvehicle I ended up buying that fancy scanner, hope will return it after
Hello. Great video. I followed verbatim. Car is level. Slightly more than 1.5 qt drained out, so i filled back up with 2 qts. Brought the trans to 104, removed the drain plug and not a drop came out. Trans clean as a whistle, no leaks and never worked on. What's the likelihood the factory under filled the trans? Btw, my vehicle is a 2015 rx350 allwheel drive v6. Thank you again.
Hmm. I just watched another video of yours, and you stated that trans oil can evaporate over time. Maybe that is my scenario.
Are you original owner?
Yes, I'm the original owner. So tue following day i added one more quart, warmed the trans up to 104 and 3/4 of it drained out. I noticed that you put 3 qts in, i quess i didnt follow verbatim. All good now.
So Amsoil knows how to formulate a better atf fluid than Toyota does for their own product? Now that's a believable sales pitch.
Toyota doesn't make their own fluid. They pay someone to formulate. If Toyota fluid was great people would never use Amsoil ATF. Watch this video with people's comments about Amsoil ATF how it eliminated Toyota transmission problems. ruclips.net/video/XYyGS_U13II/видео.html
Well Toyota uses conventional oil blended by Exxon mobil soooo yeah id say amsoils pao group 4 oil is better
My car is at the Lexus dealership getting some Amsoil ATF in it right now
Lexus dealer selling Amsoil ATF?
Nope I bought the oil and took it to them and they’re going to put it in
ws toyota fluid are not synthetic also whats happen if you mix the synthetic fluid with the old ws one ??? thanks for this helpful video
When you mix WS with Amsoil, your WS fluid is being rejuvenated and transmission life is extended.
Nothing will happen if you mix them. I used
Aisin Automatic Transmission Fluid ATF-0WS
, pricey but good stuff. I have a 2008 Lexus ES 350. Drained and filled 2 times. I had exactly 4 quarts of fluid that drained out after the two drains. I put two quarts back in both times. Shifts perfect.
Nice job, simple and correct...
So I am going to do this next week. I have a concern about there being multiple quarts of fluid in the trans but only getting out a couple. Then adding Amsoil synthetic to the WS toyota fluid. Do those fluids play well together? I got 9 quarts of amsoil. Do I just keep doing this over and over till I think ive changed all the fluid?
AMSOIL ATF SIGNATURE SERIES CAUSED MY TRANSMISSION shift extremely smooth.5 months update on amsoil.
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AMSOIL atf mixed with factory atf. is it safe to mix amsoil transmission fluid with Oem trans fluid
ruclips.net/video/rzp4ddX4ac0/видео.html
Life saver!
Edit: new subscriber
Thank you
ok question. if you take out 2 quarts and the trans is cold. Can't you just put in 2 quarts of the same temp?
Yes if you know you have correct amount there now. Atf fluid evaporates
@@repairvehicle Well? Good point. I do not know what is in there now.
also what is the opinion of pulling the pan and changing the filter?
@bradcizek7830 Avoid replacing transmission filter, avoid costly transmission repairs, transmission maintenance
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@@repairvehicle I agree. Thanks for the good video. I guess I'll have to buy the scan temp tool.
I’m confused, it drained 2.4qts and you put 3 in the car. Would it be easier to just put the same amount of oil as you drained out? Just trying to learn, Thanks!
How do you know you have correct amount there? 1st Atf fluid evaporates. 2nd coating of drain pan. 3rd are you the original owner and keep changing fluid every 30k miles?
Would that Amsoil ATF be appropriate for a 2010 Toyota Prius ???
Thanks for the tutorials and reviews.
GONEWILDFILMS, according to the Toyota owners manual this Amsoil fluid will work. Are you considering changing your atf fluid?
Very informative video! Thanks for the tips on using a Scangauge to ck ATF temp!
My 2013 Highlander Hybrid lomoted say 4.9qt in manual. If I drain 4 should I replace with 4 and do you know if this car has overflow as well? Do I need to drain? Thing is the engine doesn't stay on if not being driven, so I'd have to drive it then come back and drain?
I will get back to you later with answers
Based on the info I have found 4.9 qt total. There is no overflow tube. Its different on your car. I have not done on hybrid. You do have to run engine at some point, however its not very clear to me yet, entire process. I need spend more time going through toyota service manual, paid subscription.
Would there be a danger to using manual mode and shift thru the gears while it's warming up to try to push some of the leftover fluid out? Thanks. Love the detailed videos - plan to get some Amsoil and change it myself.
No, just have to be careful not release brake pedal and drive off the jack stands.
Your scan tool where are you plugging it in if you have it under the car?
Obd2 port under the dash, cable is long enough to reach under the car next to the transmission with driver side door open.
You should put infrared thermometer gun on pan and compare temp to scan tool😁 mine is only 5 deg difference so i use the gun👍👍👍
Temperature outside effects gun reading
When the engine starts running it will get hitter than 104, the trans fluid will further expand and the excess will still overflow into the overflow tube even though it won't drain out because of the drain plug. why does one need to gauge at around 104, when the transmission will still 'gauge' itself at the engine's running temperature?
Because at 104 is the normal fluid level. If temperature is higher then fluid level is wrong
Specs says check it at 104. Most of car manufactures have the same temperature specs at 104F or 40C.
Interested in knowing something. A lot of fluid came out when you removed just the drain plug (leaving in the overfill tube). My understanding is that that will only happen when the fluid is hot and has expanded making the level above the overfill tube. Otherwise when cold and contracted, you should only see the fluid that was in the overfill tube (main level is below the tube level) which would be minuscule. So hopefully you can confirm yours was hot when the drain nut was taken off. If it was cold then I am surmising your transmission was overfilled to begin with. Thanks for the video!
My transmission was not over filled, because when I pulled the plug, it was cold the atf and engine was not running. When engine is running fluid level drops because it's circulated through entire transmission.
repairvehicle Beg to differ but from my understanding when the fluid is cold the level is LOWEST - below the top level of the overfill straw. So if all you do is remove the drain plug (leaving the overfill tube in place) when the engine is cold the only fluid that should come out is the small amount in the overfill tube- that's all! If any more comes out then you had too much in it for the level should not reach the top over the overflow unless it is at 104-113 deg or whatever that temp range is I forgot.
You may be correct that might only be the case if the engine is running and it is cold. So immediately after starting the car cold my case may apply
@@condor5635 To anyone reading this comment, please do not listen to this person's claims (condor5635). He does not seem to grasp the fact that you drain the transmission when the engine is off, meaning that more fluid will have dropped into the pan since it is not circulating.
The guy who posted this video tried to explain to him that fluid levels drop when the engine is running. Just do the process the way he shows in the video and everything will turn out perfect.
@@RonnieCarter38501 - yes I was confused 5 yrs ago. Done this many times since then. You’ll get a about 56 to 60 ounces in total by removing both the plug and the overflow tube. The bulk of it comes out with the drain plug. Process is very easy I do it every other oil change so basically my ATF is very new all the time. Other things I’ve learned is the Scangauge and using an infrared track within 2° of each other. Thanks for pointing out my error
What is the time frame or milage at which the ATF should be exchanged? My mechanic insists that doing a fluid change hurts the tyranny.
Fresh proper fluid will never hurt any transmission. How long your mechanic has been working as a mechanic? What type of cars is he working on?
Sir, I have an idea, I think you will be interested. Can you take a laser temperature meter and measure the outside temperature of the pan at the moment when this super digital reader tool shows 104 degrees. To see what is the difference. This way we all can just use regular temperature meter
I will try this but results will be very different due to outside temperature.
repairvehicle can you let me know here?
It’s not just about difference, we will measure temperature outside (whatever it will be), and it will mean that temperature inside is exactly 104
I will make short video
repairvehicle thank you!
So..I did the drain then couldn't find that inner tube, tried and tried and nothing. My vehicle is a 2012 4Runner SR5. Bought it with 80K miles on it, I don't know but noticed the bolts were smaller than yours... is that right?...anyway, I added exactly the same amount that came out (3 Qts.).
Your 4runner should have 2 drain plugs if I am not mistaking? One for draining the fluid and other for measuring fluid level with overflow tube. If you don't have overflow tube, it means someone has been messing around with transmission in the past and who knows what they did if they added correct amount of ATF. Size of the bolts being smaller maybe because they are not original bolts.
I will get the old fluid tested to make sure the transmission is in good shape. Will replace the fluid after another 10-15k miles and will make sure if the tube is there or not. Thank you for replying.
I'm just curious, but wouldn't make more sense to buy cheaper brand ATF to drain and fill at least three times to make sure all contaminants are out and the fluid comes out clear, then on the last fill use the expensive amsoil? If the overflow was almost a quart it seems like a waste, no?
Very good question. After you done with cheap fluid, it's now in the transmission at least 70%. With cheap fluid you have 70% inside transmission and 30% amsoil. With this method you are not gaining anything by adding 30% amsoil, because majority of the fluid inside transmission is cheap garbage. Doing drain and fill amsoil is not waste of money, it's a guarantee to 100% amsoil atf inside transmission.
@@repairvehicle that makes a lot of sense, thanks for answering and clarifying.
Thanks for asking
Ya great video great video
Hello. I see the link for the scan gauge. Can i buy that scan product, and use on my 2011 toyota Tundra? 5.7, 4x4.
Yes you can use it on tundra. Here’s the video for tundra, TOYOTA TUNDRA transmission fluid change, how to replace Toyota Tundra transmission fluid ws, ws atf
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Very informative 👏