Star Trek: Inside the USS Enterprise-B (Excelsior-class)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- This is the 3D animation of Enterprise 1701-B (Excelsior-class) from Star Trek. Enjoy! #startrek
The Excelsior-class ships have played a significant role in the Star Trek universe, and have been involved in a number of important events and missions.
The design of the Excelsior-class ships was based on the Constitution-class starships, which were introduced in the original Star Trek television series. The Excelsior-class ships are larger and more heavily armed than the Constitution-class ships, and they are often considered the successor to the Constitution-class design.
The USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-A) and the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-B) are two different ships in the Star Trek franchise. The Enterprise-A is a Constitution-class starship that was first seen in the film Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
It was commanded by Captain James T. Kirk, and it played a significant role in the Star Trek universe, appearing in several films and television series.
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Despite a verbal snaffoo at the beginning (only Kirk was lost, not the entire ship) this is a great breakdown of the limited information we have about this ship.
Lovely visuals, as always
"The ship was lost"? I know.... How did Guinan wind up on the big D then?
@@damianoreilly7598 Turns out she was a cylon! 😁
How does the ship become a loss after her maiden voyage but then go on to do a bunch of other things and then become lost again? Also the phaser arrays on the Excelsior were not on the outer edge, but on the ball turrets near the center of the saucer.
It wasn't lost, only damaged. Kirk saved the day and got stuck in the Nexus.
Yeah and aside from the Saucer mounted phasers and the forward photon torpedo tubes it also had aft mounted phasers and torpedo launchers.
We'll let you know on Tuesday.
@@macadoo1588 hahahhaha best response
@@corbinhirschhorn9064 the video states it was lost on the maiden voyage. That's what the confusion is about
It was a fine ship. I still wish we had a series about its crew's adventures.
But nothing will happen until Tuesday
😂😂😂😂😂@@jamesb16616
I agree. By the time the film moved into the 24th century, I was a bit bummed, but I knew it was ultimately a TNG film. There is a novel you should read called "Serpents Among the Ruins" by David R. George III. As well as "The Captain's Daughter" by Peter David. These further the story of the Enterprise-B and her crew.
The Excelsior is my favourite class of starship in Star Trek. It just looks so classy
The idea of a seperable saucer seems quite unlikely if the warp core goes up the whole height of the neck.
Indeed. It seems that in order to separate the saucer the warp core has to be ejected first. Thus making saucer separation an extreme last-ditch option.
And it cannot really have 32 decks, of course. 24 to 28, say, but would be a tight fit at only 469 meters long.
Could even be fewer.
If the engineering isolation doors can magically cut through the horizontal section as in Star Trek II and both sides of it remain running, just suspend logic with such head scratchers
@@empressadria7009 Separating the saucer IS a last-ditch option, though, isn't it? For basically all the ships that can do it up until the whole "multi-vector assault mode" nonsense much later, anyway.
@chrissonofpear1384 given the cut aways i count 20 decks at most.
Hey, there’s a typo on the thumbnail
Yeah.. Just caught it.
I fell In love for the Enterprise-B, when I first saw it on the big screen in theaters, back in 1994. I even had a dream about the Enterprise-B several weeks after seeing Star Trek Generations
I think I had the same dream.
Yup the upgraded version caught my eye and I have one at home.
@@chrisbeauvais7499That's awesome!
Why do I get the feeling ai wish I could have seen this movie on a big screen in theaters? I need to build my own big theater one day.
There are a number of either outright errors or unlikely assumption in the first 90seconds
I will leave out the twice errors claiming she was lost…. But also the assumption made about the command experience of captain Harriman….
Obtaining the RANK of captain would have required him to have command experience as both department heads and command of lesser vessels,
Even as Plankowner it’s unlikely that Starfleet would have assigned such a complete novice for one of its brand new frontline vessels of the era….
Had Harriman being given command of an excelsior class during the TNG era it would make more sense for him to have limited experience in command because by then the excelsior would have been at best third in line behind the first line Galaxy class and the second line seasoned Ambassadors and newer Nebula classes
By then it’s certain stands to reason that the CAPTAIN of an excelsior might be a fresh faced captain or a well seasoned commander
Captain Harriman father was a top ranking admiral at the time so his promotion to CO of the Enterprise most probably had a lit to do with it and makes sense plus starfleet did promote novices to captain Picard went from Lt to Captain so not unheard of.
The Enterprise B was NOT lost during her maiden voyage. She was lost with all hands on a later mission.
I've always said, we need a mini-series based on the last few days of the Enterprise B, or each self contained episode is based on its biggest achievements, with the finale of it being lost.
Not to mention the Enterprise-C and it's two designs.
The one seen on screen that looks more like a traditional Conny Class and the one that's show on the wall of the D. That looks more like the Galaxy Class
I'd love a series or mini-series set either on the Excelsior, captained by Sulu, or on the Enterprise-B, which was captained by Sulu's daughter after 2312.
I love the "B". It just looked like a badass ship compared to the "spindly" Enterprise A.
The "refit" Enterprise is perfection. Absolutely beautiful.
The refit Connie is my favorite, but I wish Enterprise A was an Excelsior
My favourite ship design and been waiting a long time for this. Thank you.
No problem!
It's big but doesn't feel big for the sake of being big.
The neck dorsal pylon does not separate from the secondary Hull and remain attached to the saucer
The saucer section lifts off the top of the neck dorsal pylon if you look at the cutaway schematic on the back of the Enterprise D bridge you will see that there is a battle bridge located atop the next dorsal pylon very similar to the galaxy-class starship where that becomes the command bridge for the secondary Hull.
you also left out the ships shuttle bay which you have set as a second cargo bay. no just like constitution class ships those doors are for the aft Hanger bay not a Cargo bay. and you left out the ship's Botanical section which yes an Excelsior class had a Botanical Garden section as well.
Did you know? The huge impulse engines were originally meant to be shuttle bays. Doug Drexler and I believe Mike Okuda both confirmed it. In fact I remember having an Star Trek book I think it was right before or after Generations was released and it had a cross-section of the Enterprise-B and where in the final film it shows them as impulse engines, were in fact shuttle bays. At the last minute they were asked to change them to impulse engines.
As always awesome video. :)
I have to admit, much of the information from books, movies and schematic information are typically conflicting when you design it in 3D. Its more apparent when you look at a 3D model vs a 2D drawing.
@@Halfscreen Yeah, even the scaling is inconsistent at times.
Using the main cutaway display and the damaged deck exteriors, the ship scales to 622 to even 680 meters - much bigger than the official scale, usually published.
The hangar deck doesn´t make any sense, it´s to small.
Too bad they never went ahead with that, it could easily explain the later inspiration to put the main shuttle bay on the saucer section of the Galaxy class later on. Never liked the tiny shuttle bay on the Excelsior, never made much sense to me.
that is a gorgeous model of the Excelsior. Love all the models you use in your videos.
Many thanks!
Does the loss of the Enterprise B come from the novel-verse beta canon? I'm not familiar with her destruction.
There are conflicting accounts of her destruction. One being a infectious virus wiped out the crew, and the other being the starship being critically damaged and abandoned after a attack by a joint klingon/romulan fleet who were also destroyed. Both fates are not cannon.
Fan following means - there's two ships that we barely know - make some new TV paramount. The B and C need some more love. But like make the Enterprise-C series more like Andor. The Excelsior-class is the work horse. The C we know where it ends. Denise Crosby needs a proper outro.
One thing I had always wondered about the Enterprise B is did she have a warp core similar to the Enterprise A as we all saw in The Undiscovered Country the Enterprise A had a warp core similar to that of the Galaxy Class.
Nice tour however there’s a Slight error,
The Excelsior Class has 2 Shuttlebay, the one you called a “Singular Shuttlebay” is actually Shuttlebay 2, and you misidentified the Main Shuttlebay as the Probe Launch Bay, the actual Probe launchers are also the Photon Torpedo launchers and is that grey thing underneath Shuttlebay 2 with the 2 round protrusions.
She was lost on her maiden voyage with Captain Kirk, and she served for 36 years before she was lost.
It was a Tuesday 😆
@@macadoo1588 I know the reference. But my first thought was "Bison visited the Enterprise-B?"
BS. Enterprise B was damaged, not lost. Everything else was ruined by not getting basic Canon right. 1701B went on to have a long, distinguished Star Fleet record.
Now that's is a series I would like to see. The story of the enterprise b and maybe even leading into c. But none of this new shit they are doing. Needs to be traditional style star trek. No new look to the ship
I remember in Star Trek Generations Captain Harriman giving the order to transport the survivors of the Lakul directly to sick bay so hearing that means that the Enterprise B was the first Federation Starship with that ability as we had seen it numerous times on Star Trek TNG,DS9 and Voyager.
Another gorgeous model. How did the saucer separate if the warp core runs the full height of the neck? Did the core also seperate to smaller cores for each section after separation?
This problem wasn't explained in the schematic or technical manual. In reality, the warp core needs an ejection hatch to separate.
Tell what you want but the 1701-Refit or "A" is the most beautiful of them all.
Finally! Thanks for doing the Enterprise B. I requested it way back when you did Enterprise C ☺
Just asking, but this scematic of the ship makes No Sense. You mentioned, that the saucer and engineering Section could be seperated. But as we can see would that mean to RIP the Warp core in half, since IT goes from the top of the ship to the bottom.
www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/jac-enterprise-b-heavy-cruiser.php
Two additional impulse engines might have been shuttle bays.
Because when these operate, two warp nacelle shoud be destroyed.
Interesting. I love how people flesh out the inside of the ship with rooms after some desugner sketched the ship, as though it were actually real.
A couple of stand-out design flaws.
1. The upper torpedo launchers look like they could only shoot downward. The middle section of lower saucer clearly hangs lower than these torpedo launchers. A serious oversight my whoever originally sketched this ship.
2. The saucer separation. I'm going to guess this vid took liberties here as the warp core apparently runs the length of the neck and lower hull which would make it impossible to separate the saucer with the "neck" remaining attached to the saucer. Also, both aesthetically, functionality and sensibly speaking, it makes far more sense that just the saucer alone separates and that the neck is physically part of the lower hull. If that's not true then I must say it's very poorly thought out to separate the saucer with the neck still attached. Just my opinion.
When the Excelsior was introduced, several of my friends didn't like it, but I always thought it was a nice ship. I just didn't like (*really* didn't like) when they added the dumb fins to the secondary hull.
The opening info sounded like a lot of mixed elements from the 1701-B and 1701-C
I saw this video on the Excelsior Class Enterprise B and in said video the Enterprise B was a Refit of the original Excelsior Class design with larger more powerful impulse engines,the protective covering around the main navigation deflector,protective cowlings around the bussard ramscoops and it was also stated the Enterprise B was also made the strongest ship of the Federation Fleet at the time and I also saw pictures of the Master Systems Display of both the Enterprise B and the U.S.S. Excelsior that ships of this class were built with a Battle Bridge so if that's true the Excelsior Class were the first Federation Starships built with a Battle Bridge long before the Galaxy Class was even dreamt of.
1:01 - You forgot the Enterprise-C (Ambassador Class). Still love what you've done here, though. :)
Of course they would make 12 classes of them like to do in the United States of America with navy I make 12 of each class would you ask you make a lot of those ships you never trust one ship to do everything not for the United States of America or the planet Earth that is a misconception so they're at least have 12 or more in space at any one time and more at space dock.
Most beautiful ship ever designed for Star Trek.
Indeed
If the warp core is in the neck section, how does it run almost the entire height of the engineering hull up to deck 31? Also, the engineering computer core does not look like it spans 5 decks. I think this is relying a little too heavily on the MSD from Generations, which doesn't match up to the exterior of the model. The extra impulse engines, for example, are indicated to be shuttle bays on it, which is obviously not the case. Gotta take canon stuff like that with a grain of salt and come to one's own conclusions.
If I was stuck with a "vertical" warp core design, I sure as hell would use the tallest part of the ship to stuff the biggest, most powerhouse warp core I could in it.
@@Daginni1 funny you mention that. Usually that is how they work, but there are a couple exceptions. One: the Defiant's warp core. It runs the matter and anti matter streams up and down several times to create the power of a taller warp core. 2: Voyagers class 9 warp core. Instead of a central reactor, the entire thing is one big reaction chamber, again creating the power of a larger warp core.
Oh and the slots on the neck I do NOT think were torpedo launchers, just cargo bays. Because we saw a workbee carrying cargo pods leaving the port side at the very beginning. Also as someone else pointed out the phaser banks were actually the 5 ball turrets we see on the top and bottom of the saucer. They are NOT on the front or edge of the saucer.
I also THINK the big cut out on the after underside of both the Excelsior regular and refits was in fact the cargo bay.
In many cases, the exterior and interior doesn't line up on these schematics.
@@Halfscreen Yes, which is also why 32 decks cannot fit at official scale, either.
Kind of messy. Not, of course, your fault!
Yes, according to the master systems display that was printed in a blueprint for Star Trek, the slots on the enterprise B neck were in fact cargo bays.
This is a great video as far as excelsior class appreciation but idk about some of the info. There’s the weird statement about the E-B being lost on its maiden voyage as well as the claim that all excelsior classes had the engineering hull bulge. If you’re looking for 100% accurate, canon info, i maybe wouldn’t source this video. Also, just how many decks does the excelsior class have? I always thought it was 28 but this isn’t the first source I’ve heard state that it’s actually 32. Which is it?!
Unfortunately, every sites have different information.
I really enjoy these in-depth sci-fi ship tear downs. One thing you could add is the background on the design of each ship model. For example the Excelsior class was said by model maker Nilo Rodis to be inspired by 1980s Japanese design ascetics.
Sounds like you would first have to eject the core before you could separate the hull
My thoughts exactly
I love it, but my confidence died the second he called the sensor array a facer array
thats not a jeffries tube - thats a warp plasma conduit, jeffries tubes are access crawl-ways for the crew.
Beautiful workhorse design.
It is one of my favorite designs. It seems so practical but also beautiful. Also, what would be a seamless transition from the previous generation of ships like the Miranda class.
nice video, but the warp core is a little too large, as the top would be separated during saucer separation. The ST Generations master systems display on the bridge has the layout.
Good point!
Why did you say the vessel was lost during her maiden voyage? She literally survived the encounter with the Nexus ribbon with damage to the port side of the secondary hull.
This was written on the owners' USS enterprise workshop manual, but it could be wrong.
I had a comment but it won't be ready until Tuesday.
Where's Rachel Garrett's enterprise C in the line up?
🖖😎👍Very cool and very well done and informative indeed 👌.
Thanks 👍
You always do such an amazing job! I have noticed the voiceover is different. I really enjoyed the voiceover work by the original creator with the thick accent. This person does a great job but so did the original creator.
I wanted to use a voice that easier to understand, hence the voice change over.
I have more than a few problems with this 😅
I'd like to vote for the Akira Class.
I'll watch this on Tuesday
👍 Always glad to see a new vid pop up in my feed...your time and attention to detail in your animations and also your presentation is much appreciated🌌👀
Thanks again!
Hey Halfscreen. This is Eldan from this channel, and STL Trek Models. I have talked to you before about the 3D modeling thing.
I have seen another video where people claim that the original Enterprise (TOS) 1701 is not large enough to have 24 decks.
I referred them to your video's where you have modeled the decks, and they are claiming that you fudged the dimensions to make them fit. It wouldn't bother me so much if it were a couple of people, but it looks like there are 20 or 30 of them.
Now that I am actually modeling the Constitution class myself, maybe I can put a rest to that stupid stuff.
They have pointed out that the Hanger Bay in scenes from TOS was to large to fit in the ship, and where main engineering is supposed to be, and a few other anomalies which have cropped up in the last 15 years or so.
Wow do I wish I had a time machine and could go back to meet Gene and Matt at Desilu and I would have modeled the ships for them, LOL.
Well, in most of my model, I have to modify the floor plans to make it kind of fit since the 3D model I download doesn't always fit. If I model ship from the ground up, I probably can make it work.
@@Halfscreen Yeah, not your fault. There's no way the Enterprise-B can fit 32 decks without being over 600 meters. 27 would be about the maximum possible, and it would still exceed 500, I suspect.
Production inconsistencies just tend to crop up. Trekbbs forums spots this kind of thing too.
You were just trying to be thorough - don't take too hard!
As I recall, 23 decks is currently canon, for the NCC-1701 (see 'Trials and Tribbleations')
@@chrissonofpear1384 To be honest, I don't since I have probably modeled many of the capital ships already, and much of the content comes straight from the technical manual. Even the technical manual can be inconsistent too.
Warp core breach in progress!! Emergency saucer sep!! But sir, we just brought part of the core with us!!! Ahhh CRAP!!! 😳
As per 4:23 sep, and showing the core going all the way up at 7:36. 😂
note how he doesn't mention the other "special" features this ship had, lest you get a visit from S-31 ;)
WOW. There is only 27 decks in your Illustration, and that is counting the 1/2 - 3/4 decs like for the conduit transfers, and or like the deck in the top of the saucer that isn't tall enough to use for habitation, so is more of a void deck where they could run power grids, and water storage, and such. when I was on Aircraft Carriers if these spaces were in between decks they were not considered decks, or Levels, and were not numbered. So really this ship only has 23 decks. The 12 through 31 you claim that the Warp Core inhabits is poppy cock.
I see the Warp COre starting at void deck 5 and going to the bottom of 17. 18 if you count that half void where they could eject it.
I stand corrected. Its 27 decks if you count in the void decks also all the way to the bottom.
@@TwistedSisterHaratiofales For that matter, check out Trekbbs forums' 'Scaling the Excelsior-Miniature' thread. They get a possible intended length of 622 metres, for 27 to 29 decks. If fudged down a bit, can drop the ship maybe to 533 meters or so.
At 467 m, the ship would struggle to fit 24 decks, but if some are low ceiling, is possible.
And at last note, the NCC-1701 canonically had 23 decks, per the episode 'Trials and Tribbleations'. That might require a rescale to 327 m or so, if thus.
@@chrissonofpear1384 The original line drawings had 294 feet in height, but that is supposed to be with the Warp Nacelles, so it wouldn't have 23 decks unless you count the maintenance walk ways in the Warp Engines.
They even have the people in the illustrations scaled wrong as to the measurements of the ship. The ceilings are supposed to be at least 9 feet in height.
If you made them 8.5 feet you might could get away with it, but then it wouldn't match the sets.
The easiest way fix the whole thing is just to scale the ship up just a tad, but that means the portholes would have to be moved and resized just a hair.
Maybe it is truly time for the old geezers like me to just get over it, and embrace the SNW Enterprise that was planned all out at once and wasn't a model that someone made and painted pretend windows on.
This enterprise will always be my favorite next to the NX-01
I don't think it's top warp speed was 9.2. That's a very high speed for a late 23rd century ship Excelsior class starships of that era had a maximum of warp 8.6.
The Ambassador class had a top warp speed of 9.2
This is really bad.
Can you do “star wars magister class fleet carrier” please
Probably not since not much information regarding schematic doesn't exist.
My cousin got me the Enterprise -B from ST: Generations for Christmas a year ago
I liked the design of the bridge it's very functional
My Home.
She had 5x phaser banks not beams, bit confused as there appears to be a hangar bay near the impulse engines yet the shuttle bay is at the tail end...? Good video otherwise :D
mate, i thouroughly enjoy what you're doing for trek community, but I'd guess you're not much of a tehcnical trekkie, right? your videos are great, but there are more than couple of mistakes, you really should run your script for the video with someone that has extensive knowledge on trek before recording the video. I know, it's a critique, but only bcs your work is so great that I only wish for it to be perfect :D
but even if you don't do anything regarding that, i'll still watch it :D
Unfortunately, I don't know all the technical aspects of these ships since I cover not just ST but SW too. It can be overwhelming the amount of knowledge you need to cover for these fictional ships, but I do the best I can with my limited knowledge. In reality, I just wanted to create something visual different instead of using the same old movie clips or still images and designing my own original 3D models. In reality, its just my interpretation.
@@Halfscreen thats very understandable and valid!
if you have the option, i reccomend finding volunteers for both franchises to assist you
@@Halfscreen as I said, GREAT work, these are just small details that can be easily ironed out. but even if not - GREAT WORK :)
The green trim was a nice touch. About the only thing I like about Excelsior class ships. Ugly thing.
Script needed a couple more passes for consistency & accuracy.
1:06 Is the reason you skipped the Enterprise-C initially because it wasn't featured in the films?
As others have said only Kirk was lost on the Maiden voyage and the Phasers were Ball Turrets like the earlier Enterprise-A , the Ambassador Class was the first to have Phaser Strips.
it wasnt lost, captain Kirk was lost. She ship made it back home, Kirk got caught in the Nexus.
The enterprise B probably continued on until the launch of Enterprsie C. The only mystery is how long there was no Enterprsie in service between Ent C and the launch of Ent D.
Great shot in ST G. The golden colour shot
Always disliked the original look to the excelsiors engineering hull. To me it was just bland amd boring to look at but then the B fixed that. The added lines really gave the ship character
I clicked the like button even before the video played ❤
The phaser arrays were placed towards the inner rim of the saucer much like the refit constitution class.
So manny faults and assumptions that are unlogical. It's such a flawed design.
You missed the Ambassador Class USS Enterprise NCC-1701-C.
How dose the warp core cross into both haves when separated? The design would not work. Most of the warp core would be in the primary hull with benefit to it.
The cutaway is very nice, now I know why SF ship are utter junk.... poor design.
If there is only 1 shuttle bay in the secondary hull then why is there a hanger bay cross over in the primary hull??
These are great
It's still confusing to me as to which is correct, shuttle bay on the back end on the back of the saucer like enterprise d or behind the deflector dish section.
Based on the information at timestamp 7:34, the sourcer cannot separate as mentioned earlier because the core goes from the top of the primary hull to just above the deflector.
Lost interest whenever you mistakenly said it was lost on its maiden voyage
is star fleet EVER GOING to be allowed to break warp 10 ???????????????????????????????????
Wait, you said lost with captain kirk ( wrong wasnt lost just damaged)
Will there be a part 2 covering the star drive?
The B was not lost during its maiden voyage. Do your reading.
How can the ship separate if the warp core spans the secondary hall, the neck and the primary saucer?
I only counted 21 decks on the cut away, where are the rest, are they invisible?
How can the ship separate if the warp core stretches both primary and secondary hulls?
2:17 omg I Love these References animations
you seem a bit confused as to the location of the shuttle bay...you should redo this and clarify.
How was it lost on its first voyage if if was lost in space 30 years later?
Have you been working on your accent / Rs? I notice a big difference.
Was passiert eigentlich mit dem Warpkern, wenn die Untertasse abgetrennt wird? Der Warpkern ist doch länger, als die Untertassensektion, mit Hals, hoch ist und erstreckt sich noch eine große Strecke in den Rumpf hinein.
Wird bei einer Abtrennung der Warpkern vorher abgeworfen, oder kann der Warpkern auch in zwei Teile getrennt werden (was eigentlich nicht möglich ist)?
Increíble ya se sabe todo del futuro.
They had 2 heads on the bridge? You mean people in the future did have to go pee?