@@BlackHornetTactical oil tests on their Signature Series have shown after a year's use have shown that the oil would still have life left as long as the filter just gets changed. Plus why not cut down on waste if it works just as good as new
@@Korydallos7mounia Project Farm did a Very thorough set of tests with actual scientific results, that's why. Tests like heating the oil to operating Temps, not just 90 degrees. No car runs at 90 degrees.
Thanks he meant i already did this test 1 day before project farm but im glad he did and changed his oils during testing from pennzoil platinum to pennzoil ultra platinum not fair but it is because pennzoil ultra platinum is the best they offer just should have started with that thanks again any special request???
with all due respect sir, you would compare Platinum against Ultra Platinum (marketing strategy).. im sure Platinum will be the same or also the same, but Platinum would WIN because of costs comparation
Hello its definitely ultra platinum and yes its hard to find. As far as amsoil well i can tell you that it doesn't have the best cold pour and people are selling amsoil so most of the amsoil test aren't accurate. Project farm didn't use pennzoil ultra platinum until the end of his testing. Go back and watch he used pennzoil platinum and realized he needs to use ultra platinum however thats not fair to change at the end of last couple of test. Example mobil1 annual protection isn't necessarily better than mobil1 full synthetic. It has the ability to last longer but doesn't mean it provides more wear protection and the big difference is thousands of miles later. So the testing may not show that advantage. The best oils depending on application aren't Street legal. Because its changed for the environment and fuel economy.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I was referring to Leland Holton saying he got a 5 qt. jug of Ultra Platinum for 17$ . I would of bought a lifetime supply of the stuff if it was that cheap.....Peace, keep up the good vids homie.
I just used amsoil 0w20 signature series and a Wix XP oil filter when i did my oil change last week its a good oil but too expensive. After watching this video, im going to start using pennzoil once again, but the ultra platinum 0w-20 motor oil. Its cheaper and its just as good as amsoil. For all my other fluids in my 2020 honda i use amsoil 100 percent synthetic CVT transmission fluid, brake fluid, coolant and amsoil engine flush.
Installed the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 SN-Plus oil in my 2016 Accord (2.4L) in JAN 2020 with about 28,000 miles on the odometer. I was very curious a to see how this hyped up oil would perform. Seemed good for about 3,000 miles, then the oil started burning off excessively when summer hit and temps outside rose to 108 to 110 degrees in my area. After 3,000 miles on this oil, I was not expecting that much burn off to the point I was out of oil for the next top off. Mind you this oil is not readily available on shelves and has to be ordered... I'm no scientist or oil chemist but, it seems to be a no brainer that the flash point of Gas to Liquid (GTL) base stock in Pennzoil Synthetic oils are much lower than PAO (Group IV) base stock oil. Numerous additives have to be carefully balanced in the process to make this Pennzoil GTL oil work and compete with PAO base stock oils. Further self analysis revealed that GTL base stock is between a Group III (hydro-cracked) and below a Group IV (true synthetic) base stock. Similar in structure but not a stable as PAO based oil. Your engine won't notice the difference between GTL and PAO true synthetic oil until it gets low on oil from burning off and that my folks is what I'm worried about. Where is it going? Is it changing back to a gas form and evaporating in extreme heat (at the valve guides and piston rings)? This can be the best oil known to man but, if I have to constantly monitor oil consumption and order oil that is not on shelves, then I need to move back to PAO based oils for reliability. Truth be told, marketing hype is at its finest here with the Pennzoil GTL products. Pennzoil Ultra is a hard to get oil off the shelf and just makes people want to try it (like me) and see what all the hype is about., It's not Dexos 1 GEN 2 certified to guarantee performance. So what makes it soo special? Regular Pennzoil Platinum out specs the flagship Ultra. Doesn't make sense. Also getting tired of Pennzoil not controlling their documentation updates online for their products. PDF information documents dated 2018 but the Platinum oil is API SP rated as of May 2020............ CUT & PASTE corrections. What about Ultra Platinum? is it going to be SP rated? When is that document getting updated? Next Year? That's why I don't care about this hyped up GTL based oil that does not have a mileage guarantee for XX,XXX amount of miles between oil changes like other Group IV true synthetic oils. That 500,000 mile engine warranty does not mean squat to me when the oil burns off and I'm going through 6 quarts of oil during an 8,000 mile oil change interval on the oil life monitor and my car only holds 4.4 quarts. That's poor performance and probably why it does not meet DEXOS 1 GEN 2 standards. Nice product but, needs a lot of work for me to come back. I don't trust it.
Your oil is burning because it is too thin, has nothing to do with Pennzoil. You should try 0w30 or 5w30 for the summer in high temperatures@@jasonfrance4927
Two reasons to do it... 1- cheaper 2- can find it anywhere One reason not to: Amsoil is better at carrying heat away from the friction point. For me, it's simple... Pennzoil for the daily driver, and Amsoil for performance applications, or anything I want to last forever.
Yeah. 9 Quarts of Signature Series costs me about $150 with shipping. I can get 10 quarts of Ultra Platinum for about 48-50 bucks and change it twice a year. Engine life will ultimately be the same on both...
The differences between these two oils in these tests are virtually indistinguishable. Considering the fact that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is a Natural Gas base oil and not crude, I think it takes the cake. It is also considerably cheaper than Amsoil.
Thanks for taking the time to produce these competitions. Having different tests than other youtubers helps us to make better decisions on which oil is best.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I appreciate it too. It's good to have more than one test to see if the results are similar, different, and that the formulas haven't degraded from changes due to cost etc... I wouldn't mind those heat and evaporation tests too as I live in Houston and some believe you need to run a higher viscosity oil for protection. Not sure if that's true, but I am noticing that my car which I've always used M1 full synthetic every 5k or 6 months is burning 1 qt every 2k miles at 110k miles on the odometer *(recently moved to Houston and driving a lot more). However, I was testing Valvoline full synthetic based on tests I'd seen before the recent ones on RUclips, but I will test the Pennz Ultra Platinum 5w-30 to see if I get different burn results.
Was this an original idea, or are you competing with Project Farm? His is more comprehensive, and his final 2 test, Amsoil and Pennzoil, is due out today. Why did you use different viscosities? It can taint the results of the test. Just wondering.
Different from project farm i already did 5w30 tournament and he is great but he changed the pennzoil from platinum to ultra platinum also i can do a more detailed test but those extra test heating the oil i did that well before and im not sure about that
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I hadn't even noticed that. I just verified that. I will ask him about it. I was asking curious questions. Don't take it the wrong way. Yours weren't as comprehensive, but still just as intriguing. I am an Amsoil nut!
Im trying to do better. he is fortunate to receive over 10000 a month from RUclips plus thousands from patreon. I just started a patreon. i would have the best RUclips channel ever or the most expensive lol if that were me i use my personal money for RUclips. Its 20 dollars to test oil like he did i thought of that long ago but i was going to test in a car before sending to the lab. I miss his farming channel he shouldn't have given up on his passion because he could do both its about what you enjoy. Project farm is awesome. I can do the heating oil test again and use a thermal camera. Thats the only difference.
These tests were almost a draw. Then, when you factor in that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum can be found for around $30 for a 5 qt jug and be picked up for free at Walmart...whereas Amsoil costs closer to $40 for the same amount and you would also have to pay shipping to have it delivered to you, that actually tilts the scales in the favor of Pennzoil.
@@youarerightboss Too much Research for the average person. They’d also have to get proper oil filters for these long intervals and proper air filters.
@@TheNuclearBolton, we're not average. We're on point. Two years ago I forgot to change my oil and oil filter in my sienna van. When I finally did, after a 31,000 mile service interval, the engine was purring like a kitten. I use K & N or AMSOIL oil filters with the AMSOIL signature series 100% synthetic motor oil with optimal performance.
I have no doubt Amsoil products are terrific. However, DIY Oil/filter change for my 7-qt. Subaru 3.6R using Pennzoil Ultra (5W-30) and OEM filter (Tokyo Roki) costs about $40.00 every six thousand miles. (Subaru manual spec) Same change using Amsoil products would be more than three times that. In order to equalize, I would have to run the Amsoil products for 18-24,000 miles...or about two years with my driving pattern...which I'm unwilling to experiment with notwithstanding Amsoil's promises. In five years and 70,000 miles, my Blackstone UOA's using Pennzoil and OEM filters are better than any others I have seen. Think I'll keep doing what I've been doing.
I'm about to switch from QSUD 5W30 (which I do recommend and have used faithfully) in my 2017 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L GDI with 70k miles on it. Reason for the switch is it burns roughly a qt of oil every 500 miles, and after a lot of research, I decided to give Amsoil SS a shot, in hopes of reducing oil consumption (especially for that price). I'm going to use their engine flush too, which actually alleges to reduce oil consumption too. If neither of these step help my problem, I figure I will give Pennzoil Ultra Platinum a go; which I found out after buying the Amsoil, might actually be more appropriate for my application, given it is better against evaporative loss compared to just about anything, even Amsoil SS. I'm hoping but honestly, not expecting Amsoil to deliver, given how severe my oil consumption is. But if it can at least use less than 1.5 qts between Oil Changes (going for 5000 initially) I will probably stick with it. If i lose more than 1.5 qts in 4000 miles (my OCI with QSUD) I will use the rest I got to top it off and hope Pennzoil is the answer to my prayer.
Note that the bearing with Amsoil had less damage because the oil was thicker than Pennzoil (Amsoil was slightly slower on the pouring test). Not all 0W-20 oils are of the same viscosity. Some are on the high end of 0W-20 while others on low end.
Cold pour tests are more important then the film strength in my opinion. Something in the neighborhood of 90% of engine wear happens during cd start up, the fast the oil starts moving the more you will minimize that wear. The film strength test while very satisfying to watch doesn't really represent conditions that 99.9% of consumers will face on a regular basis.
Here is a test you don't seem to do, that Amsoil ALWAYS wins.... Cook the oil for 2 hours at say 375 degF or so. Check the Volatility by change of mass AMSOIL usually wins this one. THEN check its cold pour speed. AND its film strength. Every other, and I mean EVERY other oil fails this test VS AMSOIL. AMSOIL is formulated to last the distance. So, the difference here is the performance out of the bottle VS the performance after heat shocked AMSOIL is the clear winner 100% of the time all the time. And that is exactly why AMSOIL is simply the best hands down.
Every engine oil manufacturer can demonstrate a test that their oil outperforms all others. It's about understanding the Chemical composition and building a test to highlight that component!! Seen this many times over the years. 3rd generation mechanic and engine builder.
@owenhill-vf7ko On the spectrum of what is more and or less important in terms of oil performance and or overall performance Amsoil has no parallel. There is no second best. Only Amsoil. It's quite simple.
This is kind of off topic, but I took a 1,100 mile road trip from Los Angeles to Denver. I'm still in Denver and I used my 2012 Civic with Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0W-20 and the engine was running smooth and quiet. I wonder how much more quieter Amsoil would be. Great video. Also, my favorite fuel additive is Redline complete fuel system cleaner concentrate and I got 1.5 miles per gallon more after the treatment. I regret not making a quick video to show proof.
@@reage001 Thank very much. I am currently using shell Rotella gas truck 0W-20. Once I'm done with that, I will try a new product from Lucas. The new low viscosity Lucas oil stabilizer to see if it is beneficial.
It’s an unfair test. Amsoil has proclaimed the throne for so many reasons. How about this new penzoil vs everything else high quality on the same shelf? Castrol, royal purple, mobile 1, and etc.
Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
This is a pretty interesting test to see. One thing this kind of testing can not determine is the oil's resistance to turn acidic over time & start corroding internal parts. I think Amsoil has more Calcium additive which is a "Base" on the PH scale which gives it an advantage for a longer oil change interval.
Yes, Amsoil won. But this video makes it clear that Pennzoil is probably the best option. Cus it was super close, the extra money isn't justified. Either way... good job Amsoil and Pennzoil, thanks for the video
I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-20 @ $20 instead of 0w-20 (almost twice as much $$ a jug), couple it with Fram's best oil filter FRAM ULTRA SYNTHETIC™ 20,000 mi. filter about $10 bucks avoid Fram's other filters (poor quality) For $30 and 10K change intervals and my own labor, the oil is amazingly clean between changes. Very pleased.
that might be different now, where I buy it the 5w20 and 0w20 are the same price, newer vehicles are using 0w20, we are using 5w and 10w less and less so 0w20 is getting cheap because everyone is using it. My 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe takes 5w30 but the dealer just changed to 0w20 for it now. I’ve had 3 Honda CR-V’s, 2010, 2016 and 2020, they all take 0w20 as well.
also flashpoint between 20 and 50 is only 8 degrees so I’m not sure what difference it would make for someone to use a 30 or 40 etc., unless it is used on a track at high temperatures for a long time… I feel like people think that 20 is not for extremely hot temperatures but there is not much difference
pennzoil is the best price for performance champ, the oil filter equivalent is supertech, their oil filters basically have the same insides as the expensive h&n ones for way cheaper :)
I used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum on my new Lawnmower this year, it has a Honda GX160 engine. It performed very well, these videos helped with my decision. I won’t be using it over the winter but do keep it in the garage and we can get temperatures below-20 Celsius here in The Snow Belt. So even for storage it’s a good idea to have a quality synthetic. I started with a 10w30 synthetic blend that I got with the mower, then switched to a SAE30 in the hot summer months. After some research I switched to Pennzoil UP. It did make a big difference, not just protection but clearly it removed a lot of the wear the other oils didn’t. I changed it prior to storage and found much more contaminants than expected. Lawnmower engines don’t have oil filters so you really need to change the oil more frequently. The Pennzoil also made a big difference in fuel efficiency, it took me about 2 months to go through a gallon of gas in the spring, and 4 months to go through another gallon before putting it into storage. That 2nd gallon took a bit to go through too, I had to use it for leaf pickup as well in order to use it up. I was also using Shell 91 Nitro by then too which also helped. Superb results
I use PUP 5w30 in my car even though the manual recommends 5w20 or 0w20. The 5w30 is on the thin side, more like a robust 20 and flows as well or better than most 0w oils. It also has very low evaporation and high viscosity index.
Wow what are the odds that you just so happen to start off with the top oils from Project Farm's oil competition a day after he released his video.....
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO and again you are bashing on another RUclipsr he never swapped oils in the middle of testing he swapped the oil towards the end of the championship before he did testing so it did not harm the testing if anything it helped out pennsoil because he swapped to their better oil at the last test
Sorry you said he swapped to the best oil Pennzoil makes near end so doesn't that void the test not being ultra platinum for the other tests before this occurred?
Most all or all have zinc/phosphorous, I'd be interested in Valvoline full syn VR1 high zinc racing oil and Red Line full syn high performance racing oil. Think both come in 10W30 weight.
@@countryfamilyalways7280 yes your right but not all comes with heavy zddp like race olls. I used royal purple hps, valvoline vr1 and currently using amsoil dominator
@@countryfamilyalways7280 people don't realize that race oils can only be sold online or special order, unless they use RP HPS from pepboys. but yes your right I can imagine people spending 100.00 for 6 qt of race oil just to change it after 2,000 just because they want to clog their cats and fail emissions.
As far as I'm aware Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is not SN plus (I called Pennzoil today, because of Project Farm results). The camera cuts when you flipped them. Did you switch out oils?
The camera never cuts it zooms in one time while the test is running. Always worried i will screw up when racing into place to carefully hit zoom button while a rotate the camera's mount downwards.
Project farm changed oils and only a few people noticed but he deleted the comments i think i didn't see them whem i looked again. Not the championship or the final four pennzoil video but the next so 3rd video back from championship he always used pennzoil platinum then changed to pennzoil ultra wow im far from perfect but thats definitely not fair.
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO dude you are a pile of trash stop bashing other RUclipsrs if anything he gave pennsoil the upper hand and helped pennsoil win which they still didn’t you are a terrible RUclipsr stop bashing others because they’re better and more mature than you
great comparison Nate. I don't think any of the other oils will do better than the two you just di and so my prediction is Amsoil Signature Series will win the whole thing.
@@stevenbryant4718 very good point. This test with the arm does not represent very well how any part of an engine work. This test puts a weight on the bearing that no engine has the much load on it at start up. And the oil is not pressurized between the two surfaces which force's them apart
these tests dont mean anything, anybody can see both oils are great, how much are you willing to spend on greatness??? I will go with Pennzoil Ultra since its only $27.00 for a 5 qt jug compared to Amsoil thats $112.00 for 6 qts and a Amsoil filter..thats an $80.00 difference and Pennzoil is just as good by the test you have just seen..unless your a preferred customer of Amsoil you do get a discount but not that much..
I would like to see Amsoil signature series vs Pennzoil ultra platinum vs Super Tech Advanced Full Synthetic 20,000 mile vs Mobil 1 Extended Performance Full Synthetic 20,000 mile....all in one video. That would be a great match to see in 2021.
@@countryfamilyalways7280 seen how bout which oil is better at keeping pistons cleaner pennzoil claims no other synthetic oil keeps pistons cleaner than they do let's see if amsoil beats them in that test
Hii Nates. Very good work. Please test these following oils and tell which is better. 1) Liqui moly Molygen 5w40 vw502 505 Acea a3/b4 2) Motul x cess 5w40 vw502 505 Acea a3/b4 3) Amsoil European car formula Classic 5w40 vw 502 505 Acea a3/b4 For skoda octavia 1.9tdi diesel Thank you.
I ditched Mobile one like a bad habit awhile ago to try Pennzoil ultra platinum. The Pennzoil absolutely embarrassed the Mobile one. Ultra Platinum is awesome oil. I am going to give Amsoil a go to see how it compares. I run amsoil gear oil in my front and rear differentials and Amsoil ATF in my transfer case and soon in my 6l80e transmission. I also use Amsoil oil in my 4 motorcycles and my 2 generators.
2 great oils, Amsoil is hard to find here in Canada, you have to get it online I think, Pennzoil we can get 45% off at Canadian Tire, they alternate sales week-to-week so just look for it to go on sale ($31-34 CDN)
Well that was a very close match up. Those 2 oils should of been the final two championship as pennzoil platnuim is pretty darn good oil overall. Though facts shows it here, we see Amsoil still prevailed! Good work Nate!
I have a 2012 Toyota Tundra. I drive 2200 miles a month in the oilfield. I got this truck back in October of 2018 with 82,000 miles. I have 206922 on it today. I drive this truck hard 5 days a week and I also pull a 5000 tow boom sometimes. I use the Pennzoil ultra platinum 0w20. This oil is great. I hope to get another 200k out of it. I have a 06 Tundra with 452,000 on it and it’s still running strong. All original
What Would be interesting is to take the oil and put in the additives that everybody talks about. Like BG MOA vs LiquiMoly. Of course in the correct proportions as manufacturer advises.
Hello, I have 2 SUVs. 2016 Honda CRV and a Toyota RAV4, both 2WD. I have been going to the dealers for an engine oil change and they charge me a lot of money for this and every time I go there I have to wait a couple of hours even if I have an appointment. I can do this by myself and save a lot of money. Can you suggest a good oil for both my SUVs. Thanks.
I have no doubt that AMSOIL is top-of-line oil but the key is the change intervals of 5K ( for my Toyota Tacoma 2nd Gen specifically). As long as the oil brand meets the highest and most current specs per API (i.e. SP or GF-6A), any brand you chose will do great on your vehicle. From my own experience, I have used AMSOIL Signature Series Motor Oil after using Mobil 1 Extended Performance for several years and did not notice anything different (expect the more money it cost me lol). Mind you I only used AMSOIL on one Oil change. With my experience and some research here on RUclips/the internet, Chose whatever brand you feel most comfortable with.
Bouncing around web when doing these oil test in that both amsoil and pennzoil ultra both consistently are top 2… so for me, which ever is on sale, I’m getting
I've read some reviews on Amazon of people who have bought the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 and found some kind of black silt at the bottom of the jug. And even some that were sent oil that was 2 years old! Does anyone know anything about this? I'm curious to try it still.
Appears to be a little bit of the additive package that has fallen out due to settling. If you have another jug or bottle, just pour the oil in between each container and give it a good shake as well. But if you don't, it should not be a problem.
Installed the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 SN-Plus oil in my 2016 Accord (2.4L) in JAN 2020 with about 28,000 miles on the odometer. I was very curious a to see how this hyped up oil would perform. Seemed good for about 3,000 miles, then the oil started burning off excessively when summer hit and temps outside rose to 108 to 110 degrees in my area. After 3,000 miles on this oil, I was not expecting that much burn off to the point I was out of oil for the next top off. Mind you this oil is not readily available on shelves and has to be ordered... I'm no scientist or oil chemist but, it seems to be a no brainer that the flash point of Gas to Liquid (GTL) base stock in Pennzoil Synthetic oils are much lower than PAO (Group IV) base stock oil. Numerous additives have to be carefully balanced in the process to make this Pennzoil GTL oil work and compete with PAO base stock oils. Further self analysis revealed that GTL base stock is between a Group III (hydro-cracked) and below a Group IV (true synthetic) base stock. Similar in structure but not a stable as PAO based oil. Your engine won't notice the difference between GTL and PAO true synthetic oil until it gets low on oil from burning off and that my folks is what I'm worried about. Where is it going? Is it changing back to a gas form and evaporating in extreme heat (at the valve guides and piston rings)? This can be the best oil known to man but, if I have to constantly monitor oil consumption and order oil that is not on shelves, then I need to move back to PAO based oils for reliability. Truth be told, marketing hype is at its finest here with the Pennzoil GTL products. Pennzoil Ultra is a hard to get oil off the shelf and just makes people want to try it (like me) and see what all the hype is about., It's not Dexos 1 GEN 2 certified to guarantee performance. So what makes it soo special? Regular Pennzoil Platinum out specs the flagship Ultra. Doesn't make sense. Also getting tired of Pennzoil not controlling their documentation updates online for their products. PDF information documents dated 2018 but the Platinum oil is API SP rated as of May 2020............ CUT & PASTE corrections. What about Ultra Platinum? is it going to be SP rated? When is that document getting updated? Next Year? That's why I don't care about this hyped up GTL based oil that does not have a mileage guarantee for XX,XXX amount of miles between oil changes like other Group IV true synthetic oils. That 500,000 mile engine warranty does not mean squat to me when the oil burns off and I'm going through 6 quarts of oil during an 8,000 mile oil change interval on the oil life monitor and my car only holds 4.4 quarts. That's poor performance and probably why it does not meet DEXOS 1 GEN 2 standards. Nice product but, needs a lot of work for me to come back. I don't trust it.
Question # 1 What oil base Amsoil using,since they don’t make they own ? Question # 2 Why most worshiped oils like Amsoil,Red Line and so on are not sertified by API ? Are they to cheap to pay the sertificate,or they know that they will fail ? Question # 3 What other oils are made from natural gas besides Pennzoil ? And here is my opinion. You don’t have to agree to it. Price-quality-availability,range of viscosity and additives Pennzoil is the one that fits it all. If you don’t race your everyday ride ( high temp performance ),and have naturaly aspirated engine ,don’t use Ultra Platinum,as it lacks the seal conditioner. Go for Platinum or Platinum high millege. My former 06 Maxima had 320 000 miles on it when rear main seal started to sweat a little. I switched from Platinum to Platinum high millege. Leak stoped after 2 oilchanges. Now i drive different car but still stick to Pennzoil. By the way i sold Maxima to my coworker 2 years ago,and its still on a road.
Look at the 540Rat blog outlining oils tested by a mechanical engineer. Over 200 oils tested. Ultra Platinum is a very good oil, but numerous oils had a significantly higher wear film strength such as Mobil 1 0W40, Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic, Quaker State Ultimate Durability, and the number 1 oil tested for film strength straight out the bottle: Amsoil 5w 30 Signature Series. I would use any of those over Ultra Platinum. I have a high mileage car and the Valvoline also has seal conditioners along with top of the line film strength. So I go with that.. You should try testing the full synthetic Maxlife instead of Synpower....
But they're not subjected to high temps as an engine sees.... even more so in forced induction applications. Imo, this is only a small piece of the whole story
I change my oil every 3000 no matter what. I want the oil clean. Oil change inervls use to be 3k before enviro-wackos in govt pressured to change. I'm using Ultra Pennzoil because it hs best cold flow, keeps it clean & has good film srength and boron additive package. If I use Amsoil, I gotta extend the OCI way out to justify. Don't want to go that long on oil. I want the oil like new in my engine......all the time.
Has anyone noticed how the same oil as iy moves thru the ranks causes different amounts of wear lost on the bearing scare trst? Now think about what that means. The oil is from the same bottle and room temp is basically the se. The weight and testing machine is the same so....tale a guess where the variation is... Hmmm could it maybe be the hardness of the bearings.... You got it. So then much of the variation in very close tests is likely to be variation in bearing hardnes. The bearings would have to be tested for wear hardness and toighness ratings to ensure equal bearings are used. Consider schaeffers had a bearing loss of only 0.01 and thats the max resolution and actually below what the accuracy of that scale is capable of. So its not a tie if both hit .01. On top of that amsoil goes on yet its scare test lost 300% more than schaeffers 0.01 vs 0.03. Thus schaeffer is superior to any oil that had a bearing loss of more than 0.01 grams. Point is there are way way to many uncontrolled or accounted for varaible and the t esting temp is of no use. Engine oil is not at room temp in the bearing but closer to 220 degree. Oil should be bearing tested at 250 to 300 f degrees to have any praxtical benefit. Not being a jerk but there is a reason there are specific scientic proptocols used and ways to address variation. You can not run sample sizes of one either as it does not statistically allow for the unc onteoled variations but need 5 to 10 runs and compute average sd and es for comparison . Then do that for each oil and post results. This tournament style stuff is entertainment and has zero place in trying to do proper testing. But the real thing is clicks and revenue from youtube not actually truth or real meaningful results. But that is the nature of the youtube beast I gueas. Sad but true these days.
I think you may be misssing a few brain cells, clearly in the last test the pulley splashed a bunch of the pennz oil out of the dish, if it was in a closed confined space the result would be different considering there wouldn’t be any loss of oil what so ever, so I think you need to rethink how you assess your tests
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Amsoil is the best of the synthetic oils so for Pennzoil Ultra to be this close in performance yet be much cheaper is outstanding.
Amsoil can last a year so overtime it's cheaper than some oils
What can we try next
iMiguelAOG why would you ever leave your oil in for a whole year... doesn’t matter how good the oil is it’s not a good idea to do that
@@BlackHornetTactical oil tests on their Signature Series have shown after a year's use have shown that the oil would still have life left as long as the filter just gets changed. Plus why not cut down on waste if it works just as good as new
@@mistamaog Problem is with longer oil Changes is More Carbon, a clean oil is a Happy Oil and that Matters !!!
Project Farm already did these tests.
So what?
@@Korydallos7mounia Project Farm did a Very thorough set of tests with actual scientific results, that's why. Tests like heating the oil to operating Temps, not just 90 degrees. No car runs at 90 degrees.
90 degrees for pour test only
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I get that, but what does that prove? The measure of good oil is how it protects the vital engi e components.
Thanks he meant i already did this test 1 day before project farm but im glad he did and changed his oils during testing from pennzoil platinum to pennzoil ultra platinum not fair but it is because pennzoil ultra platinum is the best they offer just should have started with that thanks again any special request???
I like the the video man. I’d be curious to see Pennzoil Platinum vs Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
with all due respect sir, you would compare Platinum against Ultra Platinum (marketing strategy).. im sure Platinum will be the same or also the same, but Platinum would WIN because of costs comparation
Ok sir, im not trying to disrespect at all, it was just my opinion
@@jafetfructuoso3133 DIFFERNT BLEND Different Oils from Lab tests that Have seen Boron Moly and others
i take pennzoil ultra platinum ... it cant be beat for the money, it is available everywhere. that make it a winner for me.
dabell12 you’re not lying. Walmart had the 5qt jug on sale for $17 a few months back. I bought 6 cases.
@@RadDadisRad damn good deal. The reg price is around 25 dollars
Hello its definitely ultra platinum and yes its hard to find. As far as amsoil well i can tell you that it doesn't have the best cold pour and people are selling amsoil so most of the amsoil test aren't accurate. Project farm didn't use pennzoil ultra platinum until the end of his testing. Go back and watch he used pennzoil platinum and realized he needs to use ultra platinum however thats not fair to change at the end of last couple of test. Example mobil1 annual protection isn't necessarily better than mobil1 full synthetic. It has the ability to last longer but doesn't mean it provides more wear protection and the big difference is thousands of miles later. So the testing may not show that advantage. The best oils depending on application aren't Street legal. Because its changed for the environment and fuel economy.
Yes watch again you can see it is ultra platinum
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I was referring to Leland Holton saying he got a 5 qt. jug of Ultra Platinum for 17$ . I would of bought a lifetime supply of the stuff if it was that cheap.....Peace, keep up the good vids homie.
I just used amsoil 0w20 signature series and a Wix XP oil filter when i did my oil change last week its a good oil but too expensive. After watching this video, im going to start using pennzoil once again, but the ultra platinum 0w-20 motor oil. Its cheaper and its just as good as amsoil. For all my other fluids in my 2020 honda i use amsoil 100 percent synthetic CVT transmission fluid, brake fluid, coolant and amsoil engine flush.
Installed the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 SN-Plus oil in my 2016 Accord (2.4L) in JAN 2020 with about 28,000 miles on the odometer. I was very curious a to see how this hyped up oil would perform. Seemed good for about 3,000 miles, then the oil started burning off excessively when summer hit and temps outside rose to 108 to 110 degrees in my area.
After 3,000 miles on this oil, I was not expecting that much burn off to the point I was out of oil for the next top off. Mind you this oil is not readily available on shelves and has to be
ordered...
I'm no scientist or oil chemist but, it seems to be a no brainer that the flash point of Gas to Liquid (GTL) base stock in Pennzoil Synthetic oils are much lower than PAO (Group IV) base stock oil. Numerous additives have to be carefully balanced in the process to make this Pennzoil GTL oil work and compete with PAO base stock oils.
Further self analysis revealed that GTL base stock is between a Group III (hydro-cracked) and below a Group IV (true synthetic) base stock. Similar in structure but not a stable as PAO based oil.
Your engine won't notice the difference between GTL and PAO true synthetic oil until it gets low on oil from burning off and that my folks is what I'm worried about. Where is it going? Is it changing back to a gas form and evaporating in extreme heat (at the valve guides and piston rings)? This can be the best oil known to man but, if I have to constantly monitor oil consumption and order oil that is not on shelves, then I need to move back to PAO based oils for reliability.
Truth be told, marketing hype is at its finest here with the Pennzoil GTL products. Pennzoil Ultra is a hard to get oil off the shelf and just makes people want to try it (like me) and see what all the hype is about., It's not Dexos 1 GEN 2 certified to guarantee performance. So what makes it soo special? Regular Pennzoil Platinum out specs the flagship Ultra. Doesn't make sense.
Also getting tired of Pennzoil not controlling their documentation updates online for their products. PDF information documents dated 2018 but the Platinum oil is API SP rated as of May 2020............ CUT & PASTE corrections. What about Ultra Platinum? is it going to be SP rated? When is that document getting updated? Next Year?
That's why I don't care about this hyped up GTL based oil that does not have a mileage guarantee for XX,XXX amount of miles between oil changes like other Group IV true synthetic oils.
That 500,000 mile engine warranty does not mean squat to me when the oil burns off and I'm going through 6 quarts of oil during an 8,000 mile oil change interval on the oil life monitor and my car only holds 4.4 quarts. That's poor performance and probably why it does not meet DEXOS 1 GEN 2 standards.
Nice product but, needs a lot of work for me to come back. I don't trust it.
Your oil is burning because it is too thin, has nothing to do with Pennzoil. You should try 0w30 or 5w30 for the summer in high temperatures@@jasonfrance4927
@@jasonfrance4927that’s your problem. This oil is the best..
I will stick with ultra Platinum
Much cheaper and basically the same
Two reasons to do it...
1- cheaper
2- can find it anywhere
One reason not to:
Amsoil is better at carrying heat away from the friction point.
For me, it's simple... Pennzoil for the daily driver, and Amsoil for performance applications, or anything I want to last forever.
based on price point, Pennzoil Ultra Platinum represents the better overall value. Not to mention they're offering a $10 rebate until the end of june
Yeah. 9 Quarts of Signature Series costs me about $150 with shipping. I can get 10 quarts of Ultra Platinum for about 48-50 bucks and change it twice a year. Engine life will ultimately be the same on both...
Thanks for sharing
@@shawna7813
I am a fan of Amsoil products, but they're a pita to buy locally, and typically more than I can afford. Their oil filters are outstanding
Interesting
Yeah quality and price filter wix xp are great
The differences between these two oils in these tests are virtually indistinguishable. Considering the fact that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is a Natural Gas base oil and not crude, I think it takes the cake. It is also considerably cheaper than Amsoil.
Amsoil is slightly more protective. “Slightly” typically doesn’t matter. But it does in turbo charged gdi engines.
@@WontSeeRepliesNot when it’s that slight.
Hi Nate, the wear spot on Penn sample at 2:59 appears smaller...or am I mistaken?
Knowing the additive packages of each oil is important.
Thanks for taking the time to produce these competitions. Having different tests than other youtubers helps us to make better decisions on which oil is best.
Im glad you feel that way new test ideas are welcome
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I appreciate it too. It's good to have more than one test to see if the results are similar, different, and that the formulas haven't degraded from changes due to cost etc... I wouldn't mind those heat and evaporation tests too as I live in Houston and some believe you need to run a higher viscosity oil for protection. Not sure if that's true, but I am noticing that my car which I've always used M1 full synthetic every 5k or 6 months is burning 1 qt every 2k miles at 110k miles on the odometer *(recently moved to Houston and driving a lot more). However, I was testing Valvoline full synthetic based on tests I'd seen before the recent ones on RUclips, but I will test the Pennz Ultra Platinum 5w-30 to see if I get different burn results.
Been using Amsoil for 40 years or near it
Try mobil 1
Was this an original idea, or are you competing with Project Farm? His is more comprehensive, and his final 2 test, Amsoil and Pennzoil, is due out today. Why did you use different viscosities? It can taint the results of the test. Just wondering.
I trust 100% in the project farm youtube channel.
Different from project farm i already did 5w30 tournament and he is great but he changed the pennzoil from platinum to ultra platinum also i can do a more detailed test but those extra test heating the oil i did that well before and im not sure about that
Yeah me 2 except i dont think its fair to change pennzoil from one test to the next platinum then ultra platinum
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO I hadn't even noticed that. I just verified that. I will ask him about it. I was asking curious questions. Don't take it the wrong way. Yours weren't as comprehensive, but still just as intriguing. I am an Amsoil nut!
Im trying to do better. he is fortunate to receive over 10000 a month from RUclips plus thousands from patreon. I just started a patreon. i would have the best RUclips channel ever or the most expensive lol if that were me i use my personal money for RUclips. Its 20 dollars to test oil like he did i thought of that long ago but i was going to test in a car before sending to the lab. I miss his farming channel he shouldn't have given up on his passion because he could do both its about what you enjoy. Project farm is awesome. I can do the heating oil test again and use a thermal camera. Thats the only difference.
These tests were almost a draw. Then, when you factor in that Pennzoil Ultra Platinum can be found for around $30 for a 5 qt jug and be picked up for free at Walmart...whereas Amsoil costs closer to $40 for the same amount and you would also have to pay shipping to have it delivered to you, that actually tilts the scales in the favor of Pennzoil.
but then again going to a retail store is not that great of an experience anymore
AMSOIL signature series has a much longer service interval. So, AMSOIL signature series is more affordable.
@@youarerightboss Too much Research for the average person. They’d also have to get proper oil filters for these long intervals and proper air filters.
@@TheNuclearBolton, we're not average. We're on point. Two years ago I forgot to change my oil and oil filter in my sienna van. When I finally did, after a 31,000 mile service interval, the engine was purring like a kitten. I use K & N or AMSOIL oil filters with the AMSOIL signature series 100% synthetic motor oil with optimal performance.
@@youarerightboss Nevemind, though you used a K&N Air Filter, I was about to say.
I have no doubt Amsoil products are terrific. However, DIY Oil/filter change for my 7-qt. Subaru 3.6R using Pennzoil Ultra (5W-30) and OEM filter (Tokyo Roki) costs about $40.00 every six thousand miles. (Subaru manual spec) Same change using Amsoil products would be more than three times that. In order to equalize, I would have to run the Amsoil products for 18-24,000 miles...or about two years with my driving pattern...which I'm unwilling to experiment with notwithstanding Amsoil's promises. In five years and 70,000 miles, my Blackstone UOA's using Pennzoil and OEM filters are better than any others I have seen. Think I'll keep doing what I've been doing.
I'm about to switch from QSUD 5W30 (which I do recommend and have used faithfully) in my 2017 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L GDI with 70k miles on it. Reason for the switch is it burns roughly a qt of oil every 500 miles, and after a lot of research, I decided to give Amsoil SS a shot, in hopes of reducing oil consumption (especially for that price). I'm going to use their engine flush too, which actually alleges to reduce oil consumption too. If neither of these step help my problem, I figure I will give Pennzoil Ultra Platinum a go; which I found out after buying the Amsoil, might actually be more appropriate for my application, given it is better against evaporative loss compared to just about anything, even Amsoil SS. I'm hoping but honestly, not expecting Amsoil to deliver, given how severe my oil consumption is. But if it can at least use less than 1.5 qts between Oil Changes (going for 5000 initially) I will probably stick with it. If i lose more than 1.5 qts in 4000 miles (my OCI with QSUD) I will use the rest I got to top it off and hope Pennzoil is the answer to my prayer.
Exactly. I'd rather change out oil more frequently with the cheaper but almost as good oil then get amsoil and keep it in longer.
Only oil to go into my car engine is Ultra Platinum, excellent oil at a good price.
Note that the bearing with Amsoil had less damage because the oil was thicker than Pennzoil (Amsoil was slightly slower on the pouring test). Not all 0W-20 oils are of the same viscosity. Some are on the high end of 0W-20 while others on low end.
Very informative and smart wath pennzoil on bearing test the oil just kept flying off
i'd still choose pennzoil because its half the price and extremely close in function to amsoil. if I were loaded i'd use amsoil
where I get it there’s onl $1 difference, Pennzoil is a cleaner oil since it’s made from natural gas
Cold pour tests are more important then the film strength in my opinion. Something in the neighborhood of 90% of engine wear happens during cd start up, the fast the oil starts moving the more you will minimize that wear. The film strength test while very satisfying to watch doesn't really represent conditions that 99.9% of consumers will face on a regular basis.
Agree with you 150 percent.
Engine oil championship? ? Vs ?
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO Amsoil SS vs OE?
Absolutely
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO We haven’t seen anyone do it brotha Thank you 🙏 in advance Nate
No problem thanks for your patience
Adinol true syn vs. Mobil 1
Here is a test you don't seem to do, that Amsoil ALWAYS wins.... Cook the oil for 2 hours at say 375 degF or so. Check the Volatility by change of mass AMSOIL usually wins this one. THEN check its cold pour speed. AND its film strength. Every other, and I mean EVERY other oil fails this test VS AMSOIL. AMSOIL is formulated to last the distance. So, the difference here is the performance out of the bottle VS the performance after heat shocked AMSOIL is the clear winner 100% of the time all the time. And that is exactly why AMSOIL is simply the best hands down.
Thanks for sharing your information.
Every engine oil manufacturer can demonstrate a test that their oil outperforms all others. It's about understanding the Chemical composition and building a test to highlight that component!! Seen this many times over the years. 3rd generation mechanic and engine builder.
@owenhill-vf7ko On the spectrum of what is more and or less important in terms of oil performance and or overall performance Amsoil has no parallel.
There is no second best. Only Amsoil. It's quite simple.
You will never know the difference between these oils in your engine
Thats why I just use platinum. Didnt see the ultra on the shelf anyways.
Check out new oil testing never seen before ruclips.net/video/8GMw6p6-UTI/видео.html
This is kind of off topic, but I took a 1,100 mile road trip from Los Angeles to Denver. I'm still in Denver and I used my 2012 Civic with Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0W-20 and the engine was running smooth and quiet. I wonder how much more quieter Amsoil would be. Great video. Also, my favorite fuel additive is Redline complete fuel system cleaner concentrate and I got 1.5 miles per gallon more after the treatment. I regret not making a quick video to show proof.
Awesome and yes i would have like to watch that.
Richard ojeda . I was watching you videos of oil with anti frictions additives and made me to subscribe to your channel . keep doing the good job.
@@reage001 Thank very much. I am currently using shell Rotella gas truck 0W-20. Once I'm done with that, I will try a new product from Lucas. The new low viscosity Lucas oil stabilizer to see if it is beneficial.
Nice be sure and tell us what you think
Awesome he has a great channel thanks
It’s an unfair test. Amsoil has proclaimed the throne for so many reasons. How about this new penzoil vs everything else high quality on the same shelf? Castrol, royal purple, mobile 1, and etc.
It's not unfair.
Pursuant to a 1990’s law suit between Castrol and Mobil 1, courts ruled that group 3 and 4 base oils are synthetic, therefore any oil that contains one or both of those groups, regardless of proportions, can be called synthetic. So as long as Amsoil contains group 3, even if it’s 100% group 3, they can legally call it 100% synthetic. Thus, 100% synthetic and full synthetic are synonymous. Amsoil admitted this in one of their own blogs.
Need some help which oil is better for crv 1.5 turbo charged. Thanks appreciated
I'm running ~6,000 miles on my current oil change of Castrol Edge. Only added 3/4 of a quart, Chevy malibu. I run it hard (sometimes) on the highways.
Warning engine oil recall Castrol & Amsoil see for yourself click the link below ruclips.net/video/ElhLXtmI268/видео.html
The real question is how well this oil breaks down after 2-3k miles. Maybe do a test with used oil then perform the same test?
Better yet, run it over to Blackstones labs for an analysis.
This is a pretty interesting test to see. One thing this kind of testing can not determine is the oil's resistance to turn acidic over time & start corroding internal parts. I think Amsoil has more Calcium additive which is a "Base" on the PH scale which gives it an advantage for a longer oil change interval.
And Royal Purple has more Magnesium than both Amsoil and Pennzoil.
I wonder how that helps?
I'm sticking with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum- just as good as Amsoil and much less expensive.
You commented on a video you didn’t watch. Congrats. And to your idiots liking.
Project farm also performed a similar test different viscosity oils after i posted our videos check it out.
Yes, Amsoil won. But this video makes it clear that Pennzoil is probably the best option. Cus it was super close, the extra money isn't justified. Either way... good job Amsoil and Pennzoil, thanks for the video
I use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-20 @ $20 instead of 0w-20 (almost twice as much $$ a jug), couple it with Fram's best oil filter FRAM ULTRA SYNTHETIC™ 20,000 mi. filter about $10 bucks avoid Fram's other filters (poor quality) For $30 and 10K change intervals and my own labor, the oil is amazingly clean between changes. Very pleased.
Fram tough guard is not cheap only the orange color filters is cheap
@@alisaleh2509 I meant their best filter is a good value
that might be different now, where I buy it the 5w20 and 0w20 are the same price, newer vehicles are using 0w20, we are using 5w and 10w less and less so 0w20 is getting cheap because everyone is using it. My 2018 Hyundai Santa Fe takes 5w30 but the dealer just changed to 0w20 for it now.
I’ve had 3 Honda CR-V’s, 2010, 2016 and 2020, they all take 0w20 as well.
also flashpoint between 20 and 50 is only 8 degrees so I’m not sure what difference it would make for someone to use a 30 or 40 etc., unless it is used on a track at high temperatures for a long time… I feel like people think that 20 is not for extremely hot temperatures but there is not much difference
pennzoil is the best price for performance champ, the oil filter equivalent is supertech, their oil filters basically have the same insides as the expensive h&n ones for way cheaper :)
Please test Pennzoil Platinum vs Shell Rotella T6!
I used Pennzoil Ultra Platinum on my new Lawnmower this year, it has a Honda GX160 engine. It performed very well, these videos helped with my decision. I won’t be using it over the winter but do keep it in the garage and we can get temperatures below-20 Celsius here in The Snow Belt. So even for storage it’s a good idea to have a quality synthetic.
I started with a 10w30 synthetic blend that I got with the mower, then switched to a SAE30 in the hot summer months. After some research I switched to Pennzoil UP.
It did make a big difference, not just protection but clearly it removed a lot of the wear the other oils didn’t. I changed it prior to storage and found much more contaminants than expected. Lawnmower engines don’t have oil filters so you really need to change the oil more frequently.
The Pennzoil also made a big difference in fuel efficiency, it took me about 2 months to go through a gallon of gas in the spring, and 4 months to go through another gallon before putting it into storage.
That 2nd gallon took a bit to go through too, I had to use it for leaf pickup as well in order to use it up. I was also using Shell 91 Nitro by then too which also helped.
Superb results
You don't use penzoil UP over winter then what do you use?
I use PUP 5w30 in my car even though the manual recommends 5w20 or 0w20. The 5w30 is on the thin side, more like a robust 20 and flows as well or better than most 0w oils. It also has very low evaporation and high viscosity index.
Wow what are the odds that you just so happen to start off with the top oils from Project Farm's oil competition a day after he released his video.....
???? I did this video first he changed oils used from pennzoil platinum to pennzoil ultra platinum
So what? Its still interesting to see what results other testers get. More testers give us more input. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO and again you are bashing on another RUclipsr he never swapped oils in the middle of testing he swapped the oil towards the end of the championship before he did testing so it did not harm the testing if anything it helped out pennsoil because he swapped to their better oil at the last test
Sorry you said he swapped to the best oil Pennzoil makes near end so doesn't that void the test not being ultra platinum for the other tests before this occurred?
Now can we compare all the Amsoil 0w-20 OE , xl, signature to go head to head to see if there is a difference in between them
Soon
my 2021 Ram 3.6 E-tork calls for Pennzoil ultra platinum 0-20wt from the factory, now I see why.
How about BG MOA vs any other oil additive thanks Nate
@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO shouldn't film strength be tested at viscosity temp, 212 degrees?
The motor oil geek had opposite pour test results both new and cooked.
Please test out race oils with zddp. I want the see the bearing test on them
Yeah i would enjoy that to
Most all or all have zinc/phosphorous, I'd be interested in Valvoline full syn VR1 high zinc racing oil and Red Line full syn high performance racing oil.
Think both come in 10W30 weight.
@@countryfamilyalways7280 yes your right but not all comes with heavy zddp like race olls. I used royal purple hps, valvoline vr1 and currently using amsoil dominator
@@LancerXDS I know that's why I said high zinc in my reply , people dont realize they took a ton of zinc out because was clogging cats
@@countryfamilyalways7280 people don't realize that race oils can only be sold online or special order, unless they use RP HPS from pepboys. but yes your right I can imagine people spending 100.00 for 6 qt of race oil just to change it after 2,000 just because they want to clog their cats and fail emissions.
As far as I'm aware Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is not SN plus (I called Pennzoil today, because of Project Farm results). The camera cuts when you flipped them. Did you switch out oils?
The camera never cuts it zooms in one time while the test is running. Always worried i will screw up when racing into place to carefully hit zoom button while a rotate the camera's mount downwards.
Project farm changed oils and only a few people noticed but he deleted the comments i think i didn't see them whem i looked again. Not the championship or the final four pennzoil video but the next so 3rd video back from championship he always used pennzoil platinum then changed to pennzoil ultra wow im far from perfect but thats definitely not fair.
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO dude you are a pile of trash stop bashing other RUclipsrs if anything he gave pennsoil the upper hand and helped pennsoil win which they still didn’t you are a terrible RUclipsr stop bashing others because they’re better and more mature than you
great comparison Nate. I don't think any of the other oils will do better than the two you just di and so my prediction is Amsoil Signature Series will win the whole thing.
Interesting
The only way these bearing load tests would be accurate is if it was at engine operating temperature.Which they are not
They exceed operating temperature check out my new videos
Yes an engine part would OBVIOUSLYsee less friction, heat and pressure.
@@stevenbryant4718 very good point. This test with the arm does not represent very well how any part of an engine work.
This test puts a weight on the bearing that no engine has the much load on it at start up. And the oil is not pressurized between the two surfaces which force's them apart
Pennzoil platinum with wix oil filters is all I use
Great choice and tell us what you want to see in our latest video for the new oil tournament.
As a 3rd generation mechanic and engine builder any synthetic oil and filter changed every 5k miles will exceed your engine's requirements!!
I’ll take penzoil on sale it’s twice as cheap as amsoil
My Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is sheering with 4,500 miles, but engine results were great. Should I switch to Amsoil?
these tests dont mean anything, anybody can see both oils are great, how much are you willing to spend on greatness??? I will go with Pennzoil Ultra since its only $27.00 for a 5 qt jug compared to Amsoil thats $112.00 for 6 qts and a Amsoil filter..thats an $80.00 difference and Pennzoil is just as good by the test you have just seen..unless your a preferred customer of Amsoil you do get a discount but not that much..
How about updating the results table that would make it easier to follow the results.
Good idea can you give more details
NATES INTERACTIVE AUTO I mean the draw table just update it with the winners results. GREETINGS.
So make a special page for video to display results?
I would like to see Amsoil signature series vs Pennzoil ultra platinum vs Super Tech Advanced Full Synthetic 20,000 mile vs Mobil 1 Extended Performance Full Synthetic 20,000 mile....all in one video. That would be a great match to see in 2021.
U started the friction test a bit early on the Amsoil side and appeared to stop both at the same time. Skewed data! LOL
how about which oil has best engine cleanliness like which oil provides cleaner pistons amsoil or pennzoil
Tested in another video on project farm , Pennzoil loses less under heat !
@@countryfamilyalways7280 seen how bout which oil is better at keeping pistons cleaner pennzoil claims no other synthetic oil keeps pistons cleaner than they do let's see if amsoil beats them in that test
How can we test this
Project farm guy or Nates interactive auto already did boil off volatility test and pennzoil ultra smoked amsoil
@The TacomaKid isnt the evap test very similar to the NOACK Volitility test ?
Hii Nates. Very good work. Please test these following oils and tell which is better.
1) Liqui moly Molygen 5w40 vw502 505 Acea a3/b4
2) Motul x cess 5w40 vw502 505 Acea a3/b4
3) Amsoil European car formula Classic 5w40 vw 502 505 Acea a3/b4
For skoda octavia 1.9tdi diesel
Thank you.
I ditched Mobile one like a bad habit awhile ago to try Pennzoil ultra platinum. The Pennzoil absolutely embarrassed the Mobile one. Ultra Platinum is awesome oil. I am going to give Amsoil a go to see how it compares. I run amsoil gear oil in my front and rear differentials and Amsoil ATF in my transfer case and soon in my 6l80e transmission. I also use Amsoil oil in my 4 motorcycles and my 2 generators.
Amsoil is 3 times the price of Pennzoil. Penn is the winner.
Amsoil last longer. You cant compare just by price
Thats true
Thanks
If you're not going to do longer, OCI's on your oil, go with the ultra platinum. If you are going to do long OCI'S, go with Amsoil.
I would like for you to test Pennzoil Ultra Platinum two times to see if you get the same ware twice.
2 great oils, Amsoil is hard to find here in Canada, you have to get it online I think, Pennzoil we can get 45% off at Canadian Tire, they alternate sales week-to-week so just look for it to go on sale ($31-34 CDN)
Well that was a very close match up. Those 2 oils should of been the final two championship as pennzoil platnuim is pretty darn good oil overall. Though facts shows it here, we see Amsoil still prevailed! Good work Nate!
Thank you
I have a 2012 Toyota Tundra. I drive 2200 miles a month in the oilfield. I got this truck back in October of 2018 with 82,000 miles. I have 206922 on it today. I drive this truck hard 5 days a week and I also pull a 5000 tow boom sometimes. I use the Pennzoil ultra platinum 0w20. This oil is great. I hope to get another 200k out of it. I have a 06 Tundra with 452,000 on it and it’s still running strong. All original
What Would be interesting is to take the oil and put in the additives that everybody talks about. Like BG MOA vs LiquiMoly. Of course in the correct proportions as manufacturer advises.
I do just that any many tests
Hello, I have 2 SUVs. 2016 Honda CRV and a Toyota RAV4, both 2WD. I have been going to the dealers for an engine oil change and they charge me a lot of money for this and every time I go there I have to wait a couple of hours even if I have an appointment. I can do this by myself and save a lot of money. Can you suggest a good oil for both my SUVs. Thanks.
I have no doubt that AMSOIL is top-of-line oil but the key is the change intervals of 5K ( for my Toyota Tacoma 2nd Gen specifically). As long as the oil brand meets the highest and most current specs per API (i.e. SP or GF-6A), any brand you chose will do great on your vehicle.
From my own experience, I have used AMSOIL Signature Series Motor Oil after using Mobil 1 Extended Performance for several years and did not notice anything different (expect the more money it cost me lol). Mind you I only used AMSOIL on one Oil change.
With my experience and some research here on RUclips/the internet, Chose whatever brand you feel most comfortable with.
Pennzoil for the victory!
Keep up the good work man!!
greet from Taiwan~
Thank you eneos, royal purple, kendall , motul are the last oils to vs until the next round of the tournament
The pennzoil was spilling out in the last test.
Bouncing around web when doing these oil test in that both amsoil and pennzoil ultra both consistently are top 2… so for me, which ever is on sale, I’m getting
Hey you can call youself project fram 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Please consider testing Toyota 0w20synthetic oil. It has a different formula than Mobile 1.
I say, use the Pennzoil and use the extra money that you say versus the Amsoil and change your oil more often
I've read some reviews on Amazon of people who have bought the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 and found some kind of black silt at the bottom of the jug. And even some that were sent oil that was 2 years old! Does anyone know anything about this? I'm curious to try it still.
Appears to be a little bit of the additive package that has fallen out due to settling. If you have another jug or bottle, just pour the oil in between each container and give it a good shake as well. But if you don't, it should not be a problem.
@@CreepinCreeper145 Yeah I've heard that as well.
2 years old? It’s oil why does that matter. I have shit in my refrigerator that’s 10 years old.
@@kurtvonfricken6829 three years later, this is still funny LOL
According to your test that’s 1-1. What are you thick??
So I put you a big blue thumb 👍 even before watching the video!, Just for the work done! Thank you 👍
Much appreciated
I never understood videos like this. It’s like having a motor oil taste test. Do any of these tests truly translate into real world applications?
Probably not
They were tied! I'd go with penzoil just because for the cost it's pretty close to a higher value oil
I Use Pennzoil for car oil and Amsoil for transmission fluid make most sense cost wise.
So amsoil 4 stroke vs casteroil gtx go 4 stroke
The Pennzoil was dripping on the bearing test. Do you think that could affect the result?.
Glad you mentioned this it seems the best oils in a pour test do just that but for protection not so much.
Installed the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 SN-Plus oil in my 2016 Accord (2.4L) in JAN 2020 with about 28,000 miles on the odometer. I was very curious a to see how this hyped up oil would perform. Seemed good for about 3,000 miles, then the oil started burning off excessively when summer hit and temps outside rose to 108 to 110 degrees in my area.
After 3,000 miles on this oil, I was not expecting that much burn off to the point I was out of oil for the next top off. Mind you this oil is not readily available on shelves and has to be
ordered...
I'm no scientist or oil chemist but, it seems to be a no brainer that the flash point of Gas to Liquid (GTL) base stock in Pennzoil Synthetic oils are much lower than PAO (Group IV) base stock oil. Numerous additives have to be carefully balanced in the process to make this Pennzoil GTL oil work and compete with PAO base stock oils.
Further self analysis revealed that GTL base stock is between a Group III (hydro-cracked) and below a Group IV (true synthetic) base stock. Similar in structure but not a stable as PAO based oil.
Your engine won't notice the difference between GTL and PAO true synthetic oil until it gets low on oil from burning off and that my folks is what I'm worried about. Where is it going? Is it changing back to a gas form and evaporating in extreme heat (at the valve guides and piston rings)? This can be the best oil known to man but, if I have to constantly monitor oil consumption and order oil that is not on shelves, then I need to move back to PAO based oils for reliability.
Truth be told, marketing hype is at its finest here with the Pennzoil GTL products. Pennzoil Ultra is a hard to get oil off the shelf and just makes people want to try it (like me) and see what all the hype is about., It's not Dexos 1 GEN 2 certified to guarantee performance. So what makes it soo special? Regular Pennzoil Platinum out specs the flagship Ultra. Doesn't make sense.
Also getting tired of Pennzoil not controlling their documentation updates online for their products. PDF information documents dated 2018 but the Platinum oil is API SP rated as of May 2020............ CUT & PASTE corrections. What about Ultra Platinum? is it going to be SP rated? When is that document getting updated? Next Year?
That's why I don't care about this hyped up GTL based oil that does not have a mileage guarantee for XX,XXX amount of miles between oil changes like other Group IV true synthetic oils.
That 500,000 mile engine warranty does not mean squat to me when the oil burns off and I'm going through 6 quarts of oil during an 8,000 mile oil change interval on the oil life monitor and my car only holds 4.4 quarts. That's poor performance and probably why it does not meet DEXOS 1 GEN 2 standards.
Nice product but, needs a lot of work for me to come back. I don't trust it.
Question # 1
What oil base Amsoil using,since they don’t make they own ?
Question # 2
Why most worshiped oils like Amsoil,Red Line and so on are not sertified by API ? Are they to cheap to pay the sertificate,or they know that they will fail ?
Question # 3
What other oils are made from natural gas besides Pennzoil ?
And here is my opinion. You don’t have to agree to it. Price-quality-availability,range of viscosity and additives Pennzoil is the one that fits it all. If you don’t race your everyday ride ( high temp performance ),and have naturaly aspirated engine ,don’t use Ultra Platinum,as it lacks the seal conditioner. Go for Platinum or Platinum high millege. My former 06 Maxima had 320 000 miles on it when rear main seal started to sweat a little. I switched from Platinum to Platinum high millege. Leak stoped after 2 oilchanges. Now i drive different car but still stick to Pennzoil. By the way i sold Maxima to my coworker 2 years ago,and its still on a road.
Look at the 540Rat blog outlining oils tested by a mechanical engineer. Over 200 oils tested. Ultra Platinum is a very good oil, but numerous oils had a significantly higher wear film strength such as Mobil 1 0W40, Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic, Quaker State Ultimate Durability, and the number 1 oil tested for film strength straight out the bottle: Amsoil 5w 30 Signature Series. I would use any of those over Ultra Platinum. I have a high mileage car and the Valvoline also has seal conditioners along with top of the line film strength. So I go with that.. You should try testing the full synthetic Maxlife instead of Synpower....
I started to test that
540Rat has no proof of anything. it is just a guy sitting behind a computer typing up numbers.
How's mobil 1 0w40 fully syntgetic?
I use this for my 1.9tdi disel skoda octavia. Should i try another oil?
What do you think is best
Thanks for watching
But they're not subjected to high temps as an engine sees.... even more so in forced induction applications. Imo, this is only a small piece of the whole story
I change my oil every 3000 no matter what. I want the oil clean. Oil change inervls use to be 3k before enviro-wackos in govt pressured to change. I'm using Ultra Pennzoil because it hs best cold flow, keeps it clean & has good film srength and boron additive package. If I use Amsoil, I gotta extend the OCI way out to justify. Don't want to go that long on oil. I want the oil like new in my engine......all the time.
Amsoil will win it all
Pennzoil ultra platinum 0w20 with a purolator boss oil filter, ZERO ISSUES in 2 yrs...
i cant not find the ultra no where
Pennzoil win big time with the price.
Close match but expected result, keep the good work.
Thank you
I still say Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 is the best for the money
Great video! I subscribed 👍
As close as it can gets!! This should have been the Final. Anyway, keep going, your videos are great. Salutes from Guatemala.
Thanks for watching
Amsoil didn’t splash around acting crazy lol
Has anyone noticed how the same oil as iy moves thru the ranks causes different amounts of wear lost on the bearing scare trst?
Now think about what that means. The oil is from the same bottle and room temp is basically the se. The weight and testing machine is the same so....tale a guess where the variation is... Hmmm could it maybe be the hardness of the bearings.... You got it. So then much of the variation in very close tests is likely to be variation in bearing hardnes. The bearings would have to be tested for wear hardness and toighness ratings to ensure equal bearings are used.
Consider schaeffers had a bearing loss of only 0.01 and thats the max resolution and actually below what the accuracy of that scale is capable of. So its not a tie if both hit .01. On top of that amsoil goes on yet its scare test lost 300% more than schaeffers 0.01 vs 0.03. Thus schaeffer is superior to any oil that had a bearing loss of more than 0.01 grams.
Point is there are way way to many uncontrolled or accounted for varaible and the t
esting temp is of no use. Engine oil is not at room temp in the bearing but closer to 220 degree. Oil should be bearing tested at 250 to 300 f degrees to have any praxtical benefit.
Not being a jerk but there is a reason there are specific scientic proptocols used and ways to address variation. You can not run sample sizes of one either as it does not statistically allow for the unc
onteoled variations but need 5 to 10 runs and compute average sd and es for comparison . Then do that for each oil and post results. This tournament style stuff is entertainment and has
zero place in trying to do proper testing. But the real thing is clicks and revenue from youtube not actually truth or real meaningful results. But that is the nature of the youtube beast I gueas. Sad but true these days.
Temperatures and times play a huge role.
For the price, I’ll go for Pennzoil Platinum.
I think you may be misssing a few brain cells, clearly in the last test the pulley splashed a bunch of the pennz oil out of the dish, if it was in a closed confined space the result would be different considering there wouldn’t be any loss of oil what so ever, so I think you need to rethink how you assess your tests
I came see to see the oil I’m putting into my car, then I ended up watching oil race
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Dude you are verifying the scale, not calibrating it…big big difference