A. Schoenberg - Chamber Symphony No. 1, Op .9 (w/score)

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2018
  • -Composer: Arnold Schoenberg (1874-1951), composed in 1906
    -Director: Giuseppe Sinopoli
    -Orchestra: Sächsische Staatskapelle Dresden
    -Label: Teldec/Warner Classics
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Комментарии • 109

  • @joaoleitao4699
    @joaoleitao4699 Год назад +15

    Exposition/First Movement
    - Intro
    Cadence 1 (=slow intro.) | 1 | F major - 0:09
    Horn motto | 5 | Fourths - 0:22
    Cadence 2 | 8 | E major - 0:28
    - Exposition I
    Theme 1a | 10 | E major - 0:31
    Theme I/1b | 16 | E major - 0:40
    Theme I/2 | 32 | F major - 1:10
    Transition+cad.2 | 50 | cad. to E major - 1:48
    - Exposition II
    Theme 1a (=I/1a | 58 | E major - 2:04
    Theme II/1b | 68 | E major - 2:22
    Theme II/1c | 75 | F major - 2:40
    Theme II/2 | 84 | A major - 2:57/3:04
    Transition | 106 | F major - 4:21
    Codetta (based on II/2) | 113 | A major - 4:33
    Cadence 3 | 127 | A major - 4:58
    Formal/thematic function | b. | Initial or primary key area

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16❤😊

  • @abundance6692
    @abundance6692 5 лет назад +21

    This is a very fine performance of this difficult piece. Thanks for posting it. Also, thanks for the score, too!

  • @porcinet1968
    @porcinet1968 3 года назад +21

    amazingly accurate and well-tuned performance that really brings the piece together. lots of things I've not heard before revealed in this performance. very witty as well. i think the horns are magnificent when they are often a letdown in my other recordings.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16😊❤❤❤

  • @tomraspanti2755
    @tomraspanti2755 5 лет назад +28

    Wow what a beautiful work. A challenging listen for sure, but lovely

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16❤😊

  • @simonkawasaki4229
    @simonkawasaki4229 4 года назад +5

    Gorgeous, simply gorgeous!!!!

  • @jeremiahsalyer7784
    @jeremiahsalyer7784 4 года назад +32

    Funny how you hate it as a kid. Love it as an adult. Maybe it reflects the uncertainties you feel the more you know about life making you realize paradoxicly you know less.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 года назад +3

      I don't hate it.

    • @mahler151
      @mahler151 9 месяцев назад +1

      I'm here listening again as the latest part of my journey with this piece, which has been largely characterized by an overwhelming ambivalence. When I grew mature enough to actually approach Schoenberg there was something about this symphony that aversed me - perhaps my own still at large aversion to chamber music. After getting over my Schoenberg obsession & relinquishing him to something of the occasional-listen category, I still largely felt somewhat disdainful of this symphony. That brings us to now: as with much of Schoenberg's "more tonal" music, it's too busy for me. Like a taxi zipping by before I can get in. I don't expect you to read this or respond, but food for thought when it comes to this (for me) bewildering piece.

    • @stacey_1111rh
      @stacey_1111rh 6 месяцев назад +1

      Nah

    • @GarGlingT
      @GarGlingT 4 месяца назад

      This is like a child felt, no this is nothingness.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад +1

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16😊❤❤❤

  • @didierschein8515
    @didierschein8515 4 года назад +1

    Thank you fort the score.

  • @stueystuey1962
    @stueystuey1962 2 года назад +4

    Good lord. Magnificent performance. Maybe the first work of "modern" music that i listened to that I was fairly certain it was different than everything that had come before. Trying to remember back - this would be the late 80's-ish it is hard to remember what i purchased in what order. What i listened to; whether i was able to get into it and feel a vibe etc...in my bones, which is to say viscerally, this particular work stands out in my memory as one i listened to from beginning to end and was conscious of a deep appreciation whilst also recognizing that there were no other works i was familiar with of a simiar structure, use of chromatics, harmony, rythym and dsitribution of the orchestral parts.

    • @MutantsInDisguise
      @MutantsInDisguise 10 месяцев назад

      The nihilist postmo child addict to quoting everything to fill their very meaningless life.

  • @BenjaminStaern
    @BenjaminStaern Год назад +4

    11:21, one of the favorite places in this chamber symphony!

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16❤😊❤

  • @Eva11092
    @Eva11092 3 месяца назад +2

    0:27 ГП
    2:23 СП
    3:05 ПП
    4:20 ЗП
    • Adagio начало вступления 11:27
    • Тема Adagio 12:54
    16:35 СП в начале репризы
    17:07 ПП в репризе
    18:08 ГП в репризе
    19:07 тема из Adagio

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16

  • @takingiteasy17
    @takingiteasy17 3 года назад +3

    A masterpiece.

  • @TheRE4Player
    @TheRE4Player 5 лет назад +3

    I have just started to do this score-video kkkkk.
    Thanks for save me work !!!

  • @NovicebutPassionate
    @NovicebutPassionate 3 года назад +4

    Out of nearly 30,000 views, only 300 likes. An average of 1 person out of 100 liked this masterpiece. How is that even possible!!!????

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap 3 года назад +7

      It's mentally challenging music, and dense with musical meaning and expression. It is a lot to take in and many people simply don't have the patience.

    • @robertallen6710
      @robertallen6710 2 года назад +1

      Not really an accurate representation of actual 'likes'...some are lazy, some unobservant, some ignorant...

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 2 года назад +1

      As the other commentors point out, it is not certain what a like represents in context. Be that as it may, Schoenberg by and large is not embraced by most listeners. Atonality is a tough listen for most even though the devotees take Sch as the starting point not the be all end all of modern music. Carter, Babbitt, Maderna, fughetaboudit.

    • @bateriaeletronica
      @bateriaeletronica Год назад

      Not many people listen enough times to understand the music. I myself just listen more than 20 times before start understanding. I know I am slow.

  • @glaucon7337
    @glaucon7337 Год назад +2

    Schoenberg's pre serial masterpiece.

    • @cptetc3772
      @cptetc3772 Год назад

      This is 1906-he didn't write serial music until 1923 (with some dabblings in 1921.) His pieces from 1909-1923 did not use 12-tone serialism, they were just expressionist: this includes some of his most well-known post-tonal works such as Book of the Hanging Gardens, 5 pieces for orchestra, Pierrot Lunaire, 3 Piano Pieces, etc. His piece right after this, String Quartet No. 2, is his transition from Late Romanticism into Expressionism (and it is beautiful incredible!)

    • @glaucon7337
      @glaucon7337 Год назад +1

      @@cptetc3772 I used pre-serial precisely to not use vague terms as "expressionist" which allude to non musical artistic movements and do not describe the music itself or the process which the composer used to write it.
      Pre-serial here simply means "free atonality" due to the way Schoenberg treated both the "horizontal" and "vertical" aspects of musical material. In this period Schoenberg wrote atonal music with an ever increasing tendency of make intervals the essence of development and thematic identity.
      Post-tonal would be inaccurate due to the lack of tonal structures and centers in the piece and more fitting to the music around Op. 4.
      Regardless, this period of his music is quite special for me although I like his serial work too.

  • @saltwatertaffy843
    @saltwatertaffy843 4 года назад +3

    余りに調整がとれてて素晴らしい。

  • @mikesimpson3207
    @mikesimpson3207 Год назад +6

    Such a lively and restless piece. That intro to the slow section with the bass and viola playing harmonics is especially magical.
    I wonder why the title page says "E flat major" when it's in E major. Can't be a typo, cuz it says the same thing in 3 languages there.

    • @premanadi
      @premanadi 10 месяцев назад +1

      Indeed, that's bizarre! Someone must have made a mistake in one language, and then translated it into the other two.

  • @aloysioneves
    @aloysioneves Год назад +2

    Fantástico!

  • @carmeloarandarodriguez990
    @carmeloarandarodriguez990 Год назад +1

    Thanks.

  • @matteoblanchard963
    @matteoblanchard963 Год назад +1

    merci monsieur courtot ...

  • @ludens5129
    @ludens5129 2 года назад

    Tense and interesting.

  • @ALB842011
    @ALB842011 Год назад

    Thank you Stefan Çapaliku

  • @jameshelgeson4668
    @jameshelgeson4668 3 месяца назад +1

    It's amazing that the study score title page has the key wrong! Great performance.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16😊❤

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 3 месяца назад

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way to Heaven. We've all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins like lying, lusting, etc. Repent and trust only in Jesus, and you will be saved! You can be saved because he took the punishment for our sins on himself when he died on the cross, just like someone can pay your speeding fine in court, and you get off free.
      Romans 3:23
      John 3:16❤😊❤

  • @Twentythousandlps
    @Twentythousandlps 2 года назад +2

    There is a passage of slightly out-of-control polyphony in the Mahler 9 opening movement that I think he got from knowing this piece - not actual notes, just this idea.

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 2 года назад

      I hear Mahler's 3rd more than the 9th. I beg some of the musicolgists to weigh in. Gerard?
      He (Sch) is in full flight from the emotional world of post-Romanticism and heading toward abstract expressionism ala Kandinsky to wildly and likely inaccurztely mixing metaphors on my part.

  • @contemporaryclassical9277
    @contemporaryclassical9277 2 года назад +6

    Terrific piece. Now, I'm a bit thick musicologically, but can anyone explain why the piece is described as in Eb, when it begins and ends in E major, and not much of it seems to be in E flat at all?

    • @mediolanumhibernicus3353
      @mediolanumhibernicus3353 2 года назад +4

      That’s an excellent question. I can’t think why on earth this is .
      Very strange. Could it possibly be a mega-misprint?

    • @Vanium_G5
      @Vanium_G5 Год назад +2

      huge misprint; it is in e major and im not sure where they got the e flat from.
      maybe you're talking about his kammersymphonie 2? that's in e flat minor

  • @segmentsAndCurves
    @segmentsAndCurves 2 года назад +14

    Schoenberg's last effort of stretching tonality, for anything after this is cast into history!

    • @machida5114
      @machida5114 Год назад +2

      so good... 🙂

    • @ahoimeboy6063
      @ahoimeboy6063 Год назад +1

      @@machida5114 so good ..

    • @Vanium_G5
      @Vanium_G5 Год назад +2

      we gonna ignore the second string quartet?? maybe even the kammersymphonie 2 or his op 43??

    • @machida5114
      @machida5114 Год назад

      @@Vanium_G5 From op.10, the full-scale stepping into the atonal era began, so op.9 can be said to be the last of the tonal era.

    • @Vanium_G5
      @Vanium_G5 Год назад

      @@machida5114 fair point but i wouldnt consider it atonal either
      that being said i understand where you're coming from

  • @nvartandreassian8037
    @nvartandreassian8037 2 года назад +2

    there is a version by Webern for 5 instruments

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 Год назад +1

    sodelicious... 🙂

  • @JesusSanAgustin
    @JesusSanAgustin 4 месяца назад

    😇✨✨Thanks1000🙏💐💫

  • @gon9684
    @gon9684 4 года назад +8

    Holy jesus, that horn part looks so fun to play... I'd rather play this horn part than Mahler or Brahms... So good writing for the instruments...

    • @antonrosenfeld735
      @antonrosenfeld735 4 года назад +1

      I can definitely recommend the horn part if you get a chance. Non stop fun and beautiful music!

  • @markbosch7378
    @markbosch7378 5 лет назад +4

    i loooove 21:10 aaaaaaah

  • @Examantel
    @Examantel 2 года назад +3

    A lot of thematic similarities to his first string quartet.

    • @JorgeMorales-fv5cl
      @JorgeMorales-fv5cl 2 года назад

      Exactly, including the same anxiety in annoying high pitches and the lost of direction and real inventiveness as the work progresses further than necessary.

  • @zyoung1127
    @zyoung1127 3 года назад +2

    1:25

  • @samson18
    @samson18 3 года назад +3

    11:30

    • @luxdico
      @luxdico 3 года назад +1

      Trans Europa Express

  • @Mr_Q.6161
    @Mr_Q.6161 3 года назад

    ホルンすごすぎん!?

  • @user-lc4eb5mm3g
    @user-lc4eb5mm3g 2 года назад +3

    reference: 4:38

  • @agramsci7976
    @agramsci7976 Год назад +1

    Promethean and indispensable.

  • @gabrielkaz5250
    @gabrielkaz5250 Год назад

    11:28

  • @komkam808
    @komkam808 4 года назад +7

    I love 14:00

  • @GaryLachman
    @GaryLachman 2 года назад +3

    Romanticism become neurotic.

    • @segmentsAndCurves
      @segmentsAndCurves 2 года назад

      Not
      yet

    • @littlemarmoset
      @littlemarmoset Год назад +1

      I like this characterization. A sort of Romantic neurasthenia indeed.

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 11 месяцев назад +1

      Perhaps but masterpiece does it more justice. The piano pieces op 11, which came shortly thereafter was a game changer. This piece is well on the way to modernity. Brahms, Mahler and everything that mattered are wrapped up here in a tight knit masterpiece.

    • @GaryLachman
      @GaryLachman 9 месяцев назад

      A masterpiece without doubt. Still, there is a morbid air about it, one that we find in other products of the time, say, in Kafka. @@stueystuey1962

  • @texwiller4029
    @texwiller4029 2 года назад

    This makes a lot of sense. Just tried to listen to Bruckner symphonies 6,7,8... nothing, they are just structures!

  • @isaiasramosgarcia9771
    @isaiasramosgarcia9771 Год назад

    this is not yet serial

  • @lenpey
    @lenpey 4 года назад

    Is this the Webern arrangement?

    • @JohnBorstlap
      @JohnBorstlap 3 года назад +3

      No, it is the original version. Schoenberg made an orchestral version later-on but that does not work so well.

  • @texwiller4029
    @texwiller4029 2 года назад +3

    Easier to follow than music of Alban Berg.

    • @Alix777.
      @Alix777. 2 года назад +1

      No dodecaphonism yet

    • @texwiller4029
      @texwiller4029 2 года назад +1

      @@Alix777. I forgot that thanks. Pierrot Lunaire is also understandable. He started serialism in 1921. (Have to stop time travelling and reading Kurt Vonnegut.)

    • @MutantsInDisguise
      @MutantsInDisguise 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@texwiller4029sure, pal, sure.

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack Год назад +1

    He called MOzart and Bach and said: look guy, take these steroids here...

  • @giovannimaccarini9854
    @giovannimaccarini9854 10 месяцев назад

    16:55