Hilary Benn: Syria air strikes speech in full
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2015
- Watch the full speech of Labour Shadow Foreign Secretary Hilary Benn's speech to the House of Commons in favour of air strikes on Syria to defeat the so-called Islamic State.
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Some of these comments are disgusting, calling Benn a turncoat rat, you people have no idea what you are talking about, did you not watch the speech? Just because he isn't in agreement with Comrade Corbyn doesn't make him anti labour. In fact he was reminiscent of genuine old Labour, patriotic and actually gave a dam about British traditions and sense of decency. You angsty teens need to grow up.
+colprom that's exactly what it was about - 'patriotism and 'old british traditions' - you like him because he brings up old memories of world war II and the international brigade. He doesn't make the case for war, just makes the case sound a lot nicer.
+Templedelagloire We're already at war you idiot! We've been assisting in vaporising the bastards in Iraq and are now able to chase the cowardly twats across a mythical line on a map so they can no longer hide. The decision made last night is perks of living in a democracy matey, the majority vote won. Just because you disagree with it, doesn't make it wrong...and by the way, it won't be YOU who's being ordered to go in and fight, it will be me!!!
bugattieb110ss then the decision should have been to end the bombing campaign altogether, stop all money going to saudi arabia where funding to isis comes from, support moderate rebels financially - there is no shortage from within syria and surrounding countries. War should always be the last resort.
+Templedelagloire Great! And those lovely boys of I.S would have plenty of time to re group, re arm and re organise while the negotiations swing into inaction. I agree with you that the funding needs to be cut off and that Saudi are the prime suspects, but that isn't going to happen over night - if ever... and you and I both know that they are holding a sizeably big economic bat over those they supply Oil to.
+colprom Calling someone disgusting for doing a disgusting thing is disgusting? Okay.
I can't stand the majority of labour supporters...... winge....winge....winge!!!!
This was a truly fantastic speach. It was also good to see Jeremy's face tripping behind Benn. priceless!!!
+Invesigator
If my people were being raped, murdered, beheaded...etc, and as a nation we couldn't do anything about it. I would be begging/praying for foreign forces to use (precision) airstrikes to relieve the suffering of thousands of civilians, who will be potentially future targets of IS later down the line. They need to have as much pressure on them as possible. They can't be left to carry on regardless. The majority of the Labour party under Corbyn thinks the world is pink and fluffy....I'm sorry to say it ain't. lv you 😘
+THthefirst
Don't you just love the sad people who have nothing better to do than pick up the misspelt (predictive) spelling mistakes. lol
+Simon Brown
Oh.......The activists are out in force on this dark, damp and windy morning. bless them.
+james cunningham weird speech made ultra weird because of who's son he is
+james cunningham It was total crap lol, and his father would have been ashamed, the content of the statement is so narrow, it fails to address western help in the past for these terrorists, the Gulf states that are still helping them, it seems Hillary Benn is one of the Blairites that are in it all for themselves and their silly ideology
One of the strongest speeches given in the House in a long time. He set out a compelling moral and practical case for extending military intervention across the border.
+Alife EU No he didn't. Watch some Tony Benn YT videos instead. Tony's speeches were far superior.
+Alife EU You are likely very susceptible to propaganda, a politicians dream.
+Geraldine Lancaster Well done. Provide an unsubstantiated personal assumption, with no reference to the issue at hand. Great point mate.
+Geraldine Lancaster He's taken a Murdochracy Bukkake with a smile.
+MrBoBoTom
Yet failing to acknowledge Cameron has blood on his hands by funding those so called pseudo moderates that later joined and handed their weapons to ISIS !
I dont like this but it was a speech of a lifetime for hilary benn
+Mike Donno I'm sure his speech will be a great comfort to the families of the people we are about to spray paint against the walls of Raqqa or maybe it would be a great moral booster to our young boys who are suffering PTSD or lost limbs in our last fiasco's
+NSARWatching lookbusy The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
+NSARWatching lookbusy There's idiots like you who think they're just going to Syria bombing random houses, schools, hospitals, supermarkets, etc. killing innocent civilians. No, they have targets, ISIS targets, safehouses, training camps, houses, etc. if civilians get caught up in it, that's unfortunate but it'll be unintended. When the US took out Jihadi John with an air strike, it was just Jihadi John and a friend I believe that were killed.
What do you suggest, do nothing? It's the government and militarys job to protect the country, that's what they're doing.
+Cian O'D dont think so theyve gone to golan heights to save the oil for his mate murdoch 😂
Richard Harris ISIS exist because we bombed Iraq, ISIS got stronger because we bombed Libya now we are invading another country. A bit rich to consider us the "good men who do nothing" while we are still drenched in the blood of the war crimes carried out by Blair
An intelligent, well informed and powerful speech clearly influencing a significant number of waverers on the Labour benches. A future leader with integrity and an understanding of the real world which the Labour party must, one day, re-join.
Don't agree with him, nor would his dad, but it was a brilliant piece of oratory, seldom seen in the HoC.
+Alan Wright It's embarrassing. It's like watching someone make basic arithmetic errors and then use those results to perform a series of complex functions.
So fucking what ? This isn't xfactor,
+Alan Wright Tony Benn was a life long supporter of the UN so I wouldn't be so confident that he would have disagreed with this speech.
Charlie Seaward To disprove what you say you only have to watch one or two of the several speeches he made in parliament. He would never have voted for - or agreed to - dropping bombs on Syria or anyone else.
+Alan Wright Not really, it was vile, he's an MP you know?
Benny made Corbyn look like a right benny here. The only worthy candidate for the next leader of the Labour party.
Why?
+blt70 Because rhetoric always trumps reason
Well that only works if you agree with the salesman. How did he make Corbyn out to be a Benny?
+billiepipersteeth Hilary Benn backed the Iraq war. dig up his father and ask what he thinks of his son. you are jeering over the beginnings of a third world war. kill some of them . . .you think that will stop other young men following Isil. more will follow, more men who use the western measures of war as a means to justify their insane ideology.
+Invesigator you sure you're not just a pathological victim with a complete lack of morality?
What is being done to get Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States to cut off funding to ISIS and to do more militarily to degrade and destroy them?
+david eisenbud You want another 1973 oil crisis?
+david eisenbud Thank -you. ISIS have been created and funded by the West and other governments. When ISIS members were part of the Syrian Republican Army, the west was giving them money to spend.
***** Valid point about the sea of oil coming on line. Aside from their oil, I have no idea why the US and UK continue to pander to the Saudis. Although, since the Paris attacks they've started to grill the Saudis and other Muslim countries more on their complacency with violent Wahhabism...
Bman Chu Saudis paid millions to spread the violent ideology of Wahhabism all over the globe, which created ISIS and other extremist groups...
+Bman Chu
You're full of shit mate. Saudi Arabia's the breeding ground for Wahhabite terrorism so your 'keeping extremists at bay' idea is a nonsense.
I watched and listened to a number of MPs giving their impassioned views both for and against air strikes on ISIL in Syria, but this speech by Hilary Benn was first class, emotive and forthright. It will go down in parliamentary history as one of the greats - and the applause by both sides of the house was well deserved. Whether or not you agree with the resultant action in Syria - you can't deny that this piece of oratorio was a real "pull no punches" treat.
I agree.
Daesh need to be confronted and now is the time .
Cut off their supplies/oil revenue and let them know we mean business.
People who keep saying No , grow yourselves a back-bone.
+thehitchrules Who are Daesh? Where did they come from? What is the Arab Spring™?, What is regime change?, What is the CIA?, What is PNAC?, Would they fund, arm and train "rebel moderat groups"?, Could that go wrong in any way?, What is PSYOPS?, Whats a false flag attack?, What agenda / narrative could these two things achieve?, what does the present day really mean?
+Flaming Death So many 'what's' !!!! Are you o.k ?
thehitchrules
Ask google
+Flaming Death What ? !!!!!
thehitchrules Are you incapable of asking logical questions? Are you unfamiliar with deductive reasoning?
Do you understand English?
The only Labour MP I can stomach
can he replace Corbyn?
As much as I despise the "Labour" Party in its current guise, take out the first fifty seconds and that was bloody brilliant.
Analyse the words, don't be hoodwinked by the emphatic tone employed..
+Lucas Amos
A horror show of epic standards.
What good is giving the green light to airstrikes, when Benn doesn't even dispel the lie of 'moderate' rebels. Zero understand, ignorant and lame.
+LordMontystink
You mean take out the bit where he points out that Cameron acted like an ignorant, loudmouthed yob?
Sure. There's no point keeping that in, because Cameron behaves that way so often that everyone is already aware of it.
I don't care what party someone is in -- a dick is a dick, no matter what colours he wears.
Very powerful speech, but glosses over the need for ground troops to make any sort of real difference.
+john ainslie PKK and Peshmerga ground troops have been reasonably effective recently. The Iraqi army, though is a bigger worry, and a better strategy needs to be formed there.
Hilary Benn, the apple that fell from the tree into the lunchbox of an astronaut on his way to study the interior of a black hole.
Powerful speech.
I don't think I have ever heard Hilary Benn speak with such passion, authority, clarity and purpose. I thought it was an excellent speech and challenged MP's on all sides of the house to think very clearly. Those voted NO have the democratic right to do so and should be respected.
Corbyn's face is priceless!
This is the best thing that I have heard on this topic. He should be the leader of the Labour party. Corbyn's had a good time of it, making himself look like a hippy. He is too left wing, they need a neutral. This passion is what politics should be. He put his argument across with brilliant fluency and with brilliant passion. It shows with the standing ovation he got from the house.
This speech actually changed my mind on the bombings. He was that convincing. It's what we need, a bit of fire and passion. I think he is totally right with what he says.
To the people saying that it will make them more aggravated and more likely to attack, there is nothing that can increase their willingness to end every thing that we stand for. The motion to negotiate with them is ridiculous. You cannot negotiate with people who are trying to end your civilisation. I am not condoning the innocents dying, that is barbaric, but at the end of the day it's war. It is what happens. No life is more important than another, but we should be obligated to protect our freedom, democracy and what we stand for. Once someone is threatening to harm our people and the way we think, speak, act and live our lives, then they should be removed from the face of the Earth. The whole reason countries like France and the US want us to get involved is because we are tacticians. We don't just bomb people for the fun of it like the Americans do, we only do it as a last resort and we don't go out as an aim to kill innocent civilians. However, I do believe we should be getting at it from the stem of the problem and confront Saudi Arabia and Turkey for their funding of ISIS. The ideology is stemmed from Saudi ideology. The Saudis are still giving them oil to then sell on the the Turkish, that's barbaric! It won't get rid of ISIS by any stretch of the imagination, but it will help. It will help stamp it out in Syria so that the rebels can focus on gaining their democracy and not fighting ISIS, plus with the fact that the refugees want to go home and live a happy, free life! It will help with all of these things. ISIS is an ideology, you can't destroy an ideology. However, we can scare them. I can guarantee that the SAS have been stalking the ISIS leaders for a long time now, they will ensure that little, if any, civilians are killed in the conflict. We think before we do, that's the difference between us and our Allies.
I must say, I don't mind if you disagree. As long as you bring back a solid, well structured argument then I am more than happy to talk to you about it. I am not for war what so ever by the way, I just feel that it can be a necessary evil in some cases.
Came here because of The print's good journalism in India. Brilliant speech
Politics aside, what a beautiful English speech!!!
+a380kik You do not base a political speech on openly professing to not knowing the difference between theocracy and fascism. We did not bomb Franco's regime. That anyone listened at all to this warmongering, twisted evocation of the spirit of WWII is a sad indictment of our education system.
Franco was a fascist who won, was in power for a long time , who was not bombed and we do not have radicalized young Spaniards causing terror in our cities today.
That was a series of words forming a false argument that ate itself right at the end.
Hilary's speech was completely inept. Delivery was reasonable. 3/10
+hairyscotsman2 To most people's minds, fascism is simply violent authoritarianism. There's no need to be technical about definitions, is there? I think the differences between Franco, Mussolini, Hitler and Al-Baghdadi were largely irrelevant within the context of the debate. I think the speech was a formidable one, largely because of its delivery and rousing nature. That it was the best speech of the night doesn't necessarily mean that the side for which it was brought was in the right.
Turn Raqqa into a car park :)
+Spud Sack I vote titty bar or pork farm.
+billiepipersteeth yes very funny apart form the fact that there are innocent people living there you clown
+Spud Sack amusing... with a fist of UK typhoons? What kind of humor is it? Trying to kill a rhino with a squadron of mosquitoes... Be serious from time to time.
Mike D That's nice Mike. They could take a job in the car parks, titty bars and pork farms and actually have a bright future.
Isis perverting message of Islam..
One of the most impressive speeches from a modern politician. The arguments he made are sound and persuasive.
I had some of his blinds installed on my bay windows. They're good quality as well.
Have you the slightest idea how serious this situation is - cretin?
+Mike Williams You ever heard of introducing levity into a situation because it's so serious, you worthy tosser.
Tom Ripley Yes, I've heard of it. I've also heard of morons for whom everything is a joke because they lack the intelligence to grasp the real issues. In my opinion you fall into that category. I may have done you an injustice - but I doubt it.
+Mike Williams You also heard of alarmist dicks who immerse themselves in the drama of a situation they have no control over to feed an overweening ego? What do you say about that category?
+Tom Ripley I like the way you put that, it's like the self acknowledgment of how little real democracy there is in the west and also a defeatist attitude,and accepting this is just the way things are and cannot be changed, so i'm going to occupy my mind with trivial bollocks, instead of trying to change things for the better, i think that's a fair analysis, woundn't you agree.
"not acting with the intent to harm civilians" is not the same as "not harming civilians"
+kris wilkinson Yes, but I think his point is aimed at those who call the MPs who vote for action "murderers" when the RAF do everything in their power to avoid civilian casualties and there are 0 known civilian casualties from the campaign against ISIS in Iraq so far. Furthermore when airstrikes prevent ISIS from expanding their territory it saves the lives of civilians in the areas that would have been taken over.
do the dead care for linguistic nuance?
You think calling MPs, who have to weigh up hypothetical deaths of civilians that may occur in airstrikes with hypothetical deaths of civilians that may occur if airstrikes are not taken, murderers is an instance of "linguistic nuance"? I'd call it sanctimonious slander - but maybe that's just more linguistic nuance in your book.
Great speech! He would make a good leader for his party… I think he WILL be a good leader for his party one day. Margaret Becket also made a good speech, I think.
Thanks for posting this.
His father would be utterly ashamed of him!!
Flabbergasted to how 620 mps and half of the nation can be swayed by generic babel delivered in a ascending or descending decibels.
True.
But at least you can see how convincing you can be by being a good orator while spouting utter bollocks.
my point was he offered nothing different to anyone else. he just delivered with more gusto, partly due to who he is. if that's the apex of political debate then so be it...
One of the most stiring, honest and motivating speeches Iv ever heard...and I'm Irish!!
david coghlan absolutely right mate
This bombing is showing loyalty to allies like EU. It is not a war, more like an revenge and invasion. And ISIS played to hard this time...
+zijiang yang for sure, UK's not a game changer! You should replace "allies" by SURROGATES! Brits WERE brilliant...
+zijiang yang IDS 'played hard' also.
Cory Tant
IDS is for ?
I was watching a guy on Politics Today go on about airstrikes and how it's wrong having killed his brother.
What he failed to say, and attempted to ignore is that it was Syrian, not UK/US/Russian. And when confronted on it, he tried to push it to the back.
Proper bullshits it was.
So if an MP speaks with plenty of passion but with zero facts or objectivity, he gets applauded by everyone?!
What a fucking disgrace.
+andysmania Our country and politics sadly, but worst of all people buy this bs.
my thoughts exactly.
+andysmania he spoke with facts or do you wish to hide the truth ,,,,,
+andysmania you clearly didn't watch it, plenty of facts and substance there...
He provided facts and logic. You are just blinded by your clear bias
Now that's the Labour party I know---fight the evil
Extraordinarily powerful and lucid speech by one of the last anti-fascists left in the Labour Party moment.
I had tears in my eyes...mainly because I was chopping onions for a stew at the same time...
Look at the deceitful faces of the SNP members. "Such a parcel of rogues in a Nation".
Truly wonderful. Impassioned, clear-headed, lucid. Only thing I disagree with is the beginning: if Corbyn isn't a terrorist sympathiser, then I'm a lampshade.
I'd still be brighter than you sound when you try and spell 'intellect'.
For or against the action proposed in Syria you got admit that was a true piece of political oratory not seen in many years. Hear Hear !
One thing I've learned about this comment section is that if someone has a different opinion, just call them moronic or brainwashed, because you know...We're not allowed to differ on any level. As for me, I completely agree with Hilary Benn here!
I've watched this so many times, I don't think any speech has been this close to swaying my pacifist notion. He just brings the most coherent thoughts in contrast.
not a labour fan but what an inspired and heartfelt amazing speech ,, if you want a leader for the uk forget corbin and cameron this is the man
Any notice how the was a lot of clapping going on at the end! Lol
well done to hilary benn.jeremy corbyn looked somewhat dismayed, no great surprise there to be honest.now our brave armed forces will hopefully rid this evil once and for all.may god bless them as they take on these evil terrorists.
This speech is up there with Churchill and F.E. Smiths "I warn the government". Hopefully the start of a new labour leader, Britain sorely needs one.
Why was the speaker not as active in stopping the applause as he was with SNP back in May?
+Kieran McCrory It shows how much the SNP members are changing the
arcane ways of Parliament, and bringing a welcome burst
of fresh air to this stagnant chamber of numpties
Here, here.
Every MP has to do what they believe to be right. There was a free vote and Benn was entitled to vote for the motion if it was a matter of conscience for him, but he should have done so quietly, and he should have offered to step down as shadow Foreign Secretary because of the irreconcilable differences between himself and the members. He was not entitled to make this disastrously brilliant speech, and I hope he is deselected for what he did that day.
I wrote to my MP before the vote asking him to oppose the motion. My MP is a Tory whip. He replied to me, of course parroting the Tory line on the issue, but also enclosing (1) the UN Resolution and (2) the Hansard extract of Hilary Benn's speech. That says it all, really. Benn is doing the government's work for them.
Hilary Benn.... such a brilliant man!!!
I love the ending at 13:57 , you here the most stereotypical British voice. It sounds like it belongs in the 40's. It's hilariously stereotypical.
At LAST ! Some sense ! A thoughtful and measured assessment of the situation and, I believe, the correct conclusion .. Wonder where he was during the Labour Party Leadership Contest !?
RIP Tony. At least he inherited your great oratory skills.
Powerful and emotional he should be our Labour Leader now
Incredible speech. More power, logic and oratory than Corbyn could ever muster.
Most brilliant speech made by Benn.
A brilliant speech by Hilary --- why the heck does Jeremy Corbyn keep looking, nosely around the whole time?
Yeah!!
Bombing Syria to eradicate terrorism is like bombing a high street bank to eradicate someone's credit card balance.
+Pete Howson it's not though is it
+Pete Howson It really isn't though Peter is it.
+Pete Howson It's similar in some respects, but not wholly identical.
Our good friend Pete here is yet another example of someone who has a clear agenda but not the clarity of logic to justify it.
God Bless!!!
Surely the next Labour leader.... Mr Benn I salute you sir.
Hillary Benn deserves to be the leader of the Labour party
+ufewl Hmm depends - if you're a fighter with the guts to stop terrorists or if you're a PC, left wing, pacifist who'll just appease evil terrorists until they just kill us anyway..dude - wake up
+ufewl mate that's disgusting. I ask should we of bowed down to hitler and the third riche? Should we of surrendered to the red army? I certainly wouldn't bow down to any facist dictators, no air strikes won't stop Isis alone but you know what, it's not about that. It's about showing unification and solidarity of people who have lost to these evil thugs and making a stand against them. Civilians will die, but as Ben said we fight with the intent to protect and never to kill. If our army and NATO need to go fight which I hope not then so be it, our armed forces is the thing that protects the country and maybe unlike Iraq we will do it right this time with developing and rebuilding people who have lost everything lives.
FEARNONACHO you really have no idea we have no business in the middle east, it is thousands of miles away. Same as Hitler had no business in France Poland and Russia, We are the invaders, the empire builders.
+ufewl I know Iraq was unlawful, they weren't even in Iraq. Afghanistan and Pakistan should have been the targets but oil talks.
He should have sat down next to Camaron.
wow wow wow. ive voted labour all my life....i want him to lead the labour party. corbyn and his friends will lead to decades of tory rule. the changes in that time will never be reversed.
You wer spot on with your comment about Corbyn!
BTW, who is the MP over Been's right shoulder typing on her cell [hone throughot the speech? Is this allowed?
Corbyn - dead man walking! He certainly doesn't look like any sort of leader squirming and gurning sitting on that bench.
Great speech. Beautifully sums up the reasons why we should be playing a full role in the fight against so-called Islamic State.
Corbyns face is priceless. Fair play at least he turned up & listened. An incredible speech by Hillary Benn. Whether or not you agree with him, must admit he knows his craft. Powerful words.
Gove did well today. But in my lifetime this is still by far the best parliamentary speech Ive heard. And i'm nearly 50.
I can't help but be reminded of a powerful, charismatic and gesticulating speaker from roughly 80 years ago.
There's something seriously wrong when there is a large amount of Tory MPs applauding a speech from the Labour Shadow Foreign Secretary. He has let his party down with this speech and it's all because of personal feelings towards Jeremy Corbyn.
But on the bright side, he did take the correct and principled stance of standing up to religious fundamentalist terrorism and fascism. Which is, ya know, not only on the right side of history, but also far more important than worrying about whether the political pygmy that is Jeremy Corbyn liked it or not, or the remnants of a once proud political party, now overrun by complete basketcases.
Well what can you say after that speech. This is not about party politics its about doing the right thing. A brilliant speech and i dont need to say anything about the subject because he said it all. Why was this man not made the leader of the Labour party but i think he will be soon after that one.
Who was it that shouted ''Outstanding! Brilliant!'' at the end?
+Kx7pl 5 Most likely his Political Agent, hoping for some after dinner
speaking engagements,
Hahahah
The cream always rises to the top, doesn't it?
What would Tony Benn say?
amazing speech
let's go
some thing of his Dads brilliance..........one of the great speeches of parliment in the last
ROCK and ROLL Hilary Benn
This speech is so powerful
At last .. a sensible voice from the Labour Party .. well said Mr Benn
A brilliant speech. Clear and concise. Fair and just. I admire this man, not his party.
Very nice speech! And now the Brits are in too. Great!
One of the great House of Commons speeches
Masterpiece.
Brilliant speech .. There is still hope for labour...
Just like his dad, He is and was a leader in waiting. Shame.....
Omg well done amazing. A leader by far
buy this man a beer, he's restored my faith in politics.
This man cuts a far more imposing figure in the Labour party than their present leader.
is that ian beale on the left?
That's some fluent Churchillian bullshit right there.
+Leo Batchelor Bullshit being the key word. You do not base a political speech on openly professing to not knowing the difference between theocracy and fascism. We did not bomb Franco's regime. That anyone listened at all to this warmongering, twisted evocation of the spirit of WWII is a sad indictment of our education system.
Franco was a fascist who won, was in power for a long time , who was not bombed and we do not have radicalized young Spaniards causing terror in our cities today.
That was a series of words forming a false argument that ate itself right at the end.
Hilary's speech was completely inept. Delivery was reasonable. 3/10
.....er i meant to say in the 21st century.....not many speeches like this.
The apple has fallen very far from the tree.
I'd like to see him this passionate against the tories. he knows they are incompetent amateurs but he agrees with them on this
Look at how sick Corbyn looked OMG.
good delivery is the only positive in this speech
Corbyn sat frigid arms looking very uncomfortable and not applauding as benn sat down lol
Why isn't this man labour leader? Hell why isn't he prime minister? This one speech has changed my entire opinion on the situation.
This was like listening to Churchill... outstanding!
+Heys Wolfenden Wash your mouth out with soap and water, your comment
borders on the obscene.
God, seeing those 2 women on their phones annoys me so much...
i wonder what his dad would of thought of that speech