Why can’t the lineup just be: Spiderman Thor Ant Man Wasp Captain American Sam Wilson Shang chi Hawkeye Hulk (Hopefully Back to Savage Hulk) Moon Knight Deadpool Wong Shuri Black Panther Hell even Namor
My friend that ain't never happening. Not anymore at least. Did you count how many MEN were in that team? Your fantasy team is Op, but we are lucky if we see Cap Carter at the end of Avengers 5 fixing everything all by herself and thus rendering all the MEN of your list useless 🤑🤑🤑🤑
Love to see Spider-Man in any way but realistically you only need one on the roster, G’iah from secret invasion. Doesn’t she have like all the powers? 🙄
I don’t think they showed enough for us to 1000% know she kept those powers. Could be but also might not be. Maybe they can only perma keep one power or who knows maybe she really is the strongest in the universe
She’s prob just getting established as the toughest only to get killed right away in avengers 5 as their way of establishing how powerful the new foe is cuz that’s the only way their current writers are able to show things is by being blatant
I honestly don’t see Moon Knight appearing until Avengers: Secret Wars. I think Kang Dynasty will be more of a Infinity War type movie where we are limited to certain heroes, and we wait until we have lost some of there are some who can’t fight to bring in characters like Moon Knight. A character from one of the tv series that I think could appear, if Captain Marvel shows up, is Ms. Marvel, possibly also Kate Bishop if Hawkeye shows up. But I say being Hawkeye into Avengers 5 seeing as Avengers 5 is basically the next Infinity War, and Hawkeye was benched for Infinity War, same with Ant-Man. I think Hawkeye and Ant-Man are a must, along with Adam Wilson, Doctor Strange, and Shang-Chi, and Hulk
So he's saying Moon Knight, Namor, Black Panther, nobody from the Thunderbolts team or any of the remaining Eternals would be willing to help out against an Avengers level threat? Surely there are still plenty of heroes, anti-heroes and villains on Earth that would unite to stop a threat that big.
The Team Should be like 'Avengers: United They Stand' Series with; Sam Wilson (CA), Antman, Wasp, Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet witch (if alive), Wonder man, and Shuri (instead of Tigra)
I’m happy to see Shang chi, ant man and also if it’s rage hulk definitely happy to see him as well. (If the hulk movie rumours are true it’s rage hulk) This should be the line up: Hulk (rage) Thor Captain America Sam Wilson Captain Marvel Spider Man Ant Man Wasp White Vision Dr Strange War Machine Moon Knight Shuri Wong (This is not including other universe characters like wolverine, deadpool, etc)
Prob as their way of showing that she hulk is better than hulk by her controlling her emotions and him not being able to lol she’ll prob be the one who teaches him how to be hulk
Originally the mcu was going to be completely destroyed in avengers 5 and Tom hollands Spider-Man would’ve been the chosen one by the TVA to be apart of the multiverse avengers team to follow up in secret wars. If Spider-Mans not on the list for avengers 5 that means they’ve probably scrapped that plan. Because doctor strange and Thor are also missing from this roster, it’s also possible that they’re leading secret wars along with the old heroes and they’re intentionally making avengers 5 to flop to make secret wars look better 😭😭
@@3CFilmsClipsone thing we know if Hawkeye is not in the team they will lose and then in secret wars he will come out of retirement (again) and they will win.
Honestly I don’t mind the team as long as more characters appear, nothing against their characters but you’ll need more characters when it comes to having a chance in fighting Endgame level threats. Honestly if I had to choose who I want to be on the New Avengers team, and no character was off limits, I would have: - Captain America (Sam Wilson) - Black Panther (T’Challa) - Captain Marvel - Doctor Strange - Ant Man (Scott Lang) - Wasp (Hope Van Dyne) - Black Panther (Shuri) - Thor (Jane Foster) - She Hulk - Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) - Black Widow (Yelena Belova) - Moon Knight - Shang Chi - Daredevil - Ms Marvel - Spectrum - Falcon (Joaquin Torres) - White Wolf (Bucky Barnes) - War Machine - Vivian Vision (the daughter of Vision who’s rumoured to be appearing so why the hell not) And I would have some of the remaining OG 6, Hank and Janet, Spider Man, the Guardians, some X-Men, Fantastic 4, Thunderbolts, Young Avengers, Midnight Sons and street level characters be honorary members who help out from time to time but mostly stay separate. I know characters like T’Challa and Jane are dead in the MCU but this is just my personal roster if I had to work on my own MCU or something.
I like Ant-Man and Wasp, but I think there are better candidates than them and they should be replaced with Daredevil and Deadpool. This would make team even more better.
And i also feel like the new main avengers team will go some where so thats when the young avengers will come in kate bishop, Isaiah bradley, skarr, ms marvel, wiccan and speed and thor's step daughter most likely
In your video earlier today about the source getting the Batman 2 news wrong, they said everyone gets stuff wrong at times, this is hopefully the case here
This makes a lot of sense. More characters will be involved in the future Avengers film (I would think so) but these are the core team. Like Shiri, Colonel Rhodes, Strange, Hawkeye, some of the young avengers, and some of the thunderbolts. Also we will begin to have some mutants and maybe the FF make an appearance
1:15 (Katie) for the Kaite thing you mentioned, maybe she's there as a Hawkeye/archer replacement due to Jeremy Renner's uncertain status at the time. there was that snowmobile accident he had I think where he almost died and was out of commission for a while. So maybe whenever this source got their hands on this line up roster, this might've been from a time when they weren't sure of if Renner might be able to commit to being Hawkeye for Avengers 5. she might've just been there as a temp measure just in case, but not fully committing or something. I'm not really sure what to think of Kaitie due to not being sure if she has a comic counterpart, as well as not being well versed at all in Shang-Chi's section of Marvel comics to see how she could be helpful in an Avengers level fight at this point. I mean she could always get good with time and earn that spot. But I'd be kind of afraid she'd get squashed with getting sent to a higher level like that. I could maybe see her with maybe with the street level heroes or something and getting her footing there perhaps with some magical aids or something, and maybe acting as support for Shang Chi if he called her in for an Avengers thing. But as of right now with what the very little I've seen from the movie, I'm not sure it's a good idea putting her on the front line like that.
I also really want the movie to be different. Instead of a big battlefield like Infinity War and Endgame where you can't focus. I want an actual team who have to work together on a mission, then focus on smaller 1 on 1 battles as they journey. Then save for a bigger battle but make it day light so you can see properly.
The roster isn't bad but I would've liked the 90's Avengers which include Captain America, Photon, the Black Knight, Wonder Man, She-Hulk, Sersi, Starfox & Hercules. Hell, I would even add Shuri since she's just Black Panther meanwhile M'Baku is king. It would work well with Phase 4 and 5 and forming it would be fun
I really hope they end up doing the midnight sons in an upcoming title, and having a more darker group. It would be awesome to see charecters like moon knight, daredevil, the punisher, werewolf by night, blade, black knight, and ghost rider. If they did it right I feel like it would be a massive hit
Guys, I think the time has come that I never thought we’d see. Especially this soon, but the days of great MCU and super hero movies in general, are over 😩 the executed the first 3 phases so well and it just got to a climax that I don’t think they’ll ever reach again.
This line is ok not mad at it the line was going charge anyway so hopefully we get a great story, great action and a great director who can do it right
Spiderman deserves to be an avenger, he has gone through crazy stuff in movies and yet everybody underestimates him, he needs to be an avenger if you ask me
dr strange is off in the multiverse to fix what he did (from the ending of mutliverse of madness) katy i could see as a tag along with shang chi, she goes where he goes. valkyrie and marvel finally showing that connection they have? spiderman will show up to help out like in infinity wars (on a field trip and gets the tingle)
It does say it's a guess so I'm not putting too much stock in it. But this lineup absolutely sucks. It's like they looked at their most successful movies of the past 4 years (No Way Home, MoM, Wakanda Forever, GotG3, Thor4 in that order) and said "best I can do is Valkyrie" Personally a compelling lineup for me looks like: Black Panther Shang-Chi Peter Quill Spider-Man Captain America Hulk and She-Hulk Captain Marvel Wong Ant-Man Of course you can have other characters show up, but I think there's enough starpower here with someone like Chris Pratt or Tom Holland who are notably absent from their roster.
The line up should be Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, She Hulk, Valkyrie, Thor, Shang Chi, Spider-Man, Black Panther, (Maybe the New Falcon), Ant Man and the Wasp.
This would be the next Avengers line Thor Hulk Doctor Strange Wong Spiderman Ant man Wasp Captain Marvel Captain America Sam Wilson Valkyrie Winter Soldier Shang Chi Shuri Namor
The Team SHOULD be: Captain America/Sam Wilson Captain Marvel Shang-Chi Ant-Man Wasp She-Hulk Moon Knight White Vision Black Panther (Shuri) Namor Star-Lord (since he’s on earth now) & MAYBE Daredevil & Echo for more street level additions similar to the New Avengers team in the comics. If you want some OG Avengers then throw in Hulk, War Machine and Hawkeye for support or mentors. Valkyrie wouldn’t make any sense as an official member, neither would Wong. I would save them, along with Spider-Man, Thor and Doctor Strange for Avengers 6 when everyone comes together.
Where the F is Spider-Man and Thor. Spider-Man is literally the lead of part 1 and Thor is still teased for 2 more films. 1. Thor VS. Hercules 2. Untitled Avengers film no.5
3:15 (Roster was set up to be the loosing team) (Maybe Dr.Doom comes by and kicks everyone's butt) I kind of like the idea of this being maybe the loosing team and perhaps this is becasue it's a combo reflection of our world and the MCU like maybe after The Snap, the world really did change and get shifted. A lot like how The Pandemic shifted and changed a lot of plans for everyone. like maybe Chadwick being gone, the various heroes being shaken up or not being able to do it as much anymore or something and there just isn't the strong roster, so everyone is kind of divided and off doing their own thing doing their best from their corners of the MCU, with some having it more together than others so when a truly uniting threat shows up, it brings these characters together, and they don't fully have it together due to not having the same resources and advantages as the original team. (Had Coulson, Fury, Shield, Iron Man financial backing, etc) This team could have a few things, and a little fire power with the roster, but not enough to deal with whatever this hypothetical thereat is I know it was probably going to be Kang due to the failed multiverse plans, but who knows what they could be shifting this to But for your point of the roster you have displayed not really going to sell tickets and getting people out to see it, that I agree and might not be a good idea. I kind of like the above idea loosely on paper as a potential story. But don't know if it has the energy to fully be realized. it makes me wonder if there's a reason why this roster is the way it is? is this just a loose line up idea that the higher ups have told the writer at the time that they have available to work with in their nebulous shooting line up due to scheduling, some testing info, and just who's around based on the rights and just what's going on with other Marvel projects they kind of have in the works? Could it maybe be set up to look like they're dealing with Kang or a series of other villains, but they're being distracted or led to some kind of trap. And instead of Kang it's actually a higher level threat like Dr.Doom and he's there to get something important off one of the team members or get something that's connected to them. And in the process he kicks everyone's butt...I don't know. Wasn't sure where I was going with this. Kind of ran out of steam on this one.
I hope they change some of sutur like make hulk savage, make Thor in it cool, drop she hulk and Valkyrie. Also make sure the characters are not just jokes.
I can believe they can make an appearance in the Avengers, but not be the only ones. Marvel should bring in the SERIOUS Heavy hitters for the main team..... and some how throw in Madisynn as a wild card lol PS: Please reinvent the Hulk. make him uncontrollable and savage again...
My ideal line up is: Sam Wilson Ant man Wasp Spider-Man Dr.Strange Shang chi Hulk Thor Hawk guy (Captain marvel could show up not as an avenger but because she is needed)
2:18 (Valkyrie) I forget how long ago I heard this. I thought i saw something about Chris Hemsworth not doing to well or something. I think I recall there was some documentary he did recently and all that and him not feeling so good after that. And I think he said he might've wanted to pull back from doing movies and I guess I thought that in turn meant maybe retiring his Thor role. At least until Secret Wars for a brief bit and getting replaced in the restarted Marvel Universe. side note, I kind of hope and want Marvel to maybe put a pause on major MCU stuff somehow. I don't know or think this is logical from a filmmaking/franchise angle or an finacial thing. But considering how people have been throwing around the superhero fatigue phrase for the past year from all the mediocre output, I think it might be time to maybe put a pause on Marvel for a bit. Like finish whatever contracts they have with their actors and phase things out after Secret Wars. And then take a pause for a few years production wise. But behind the scenes work on developing a new vision for what they want to show in a new set of phases. Especially now since they have the X-Men back. The only characters they don't quite have the distribution rights back to for solo films are Namor and Hulk that are still under Universal/Comcast. I'm still still a little unsure of the status of all that. oops, sorry for the side tangent there. but I think Valkyire sort of makes sense as a Thor replacement if Hemsworth might be stepping back.
This team is getting body in the first 30 minutes no joke. My idea team is Sam Captain Doctors Strange Thor She-Hulk Shang-Chi Spider-Man or black panther
I mean Katy is a package deal if we have Shang-Chi but I wouldn’t fill out the team that way- where’s a Moon Knight or again, we got Shuri as Black Panther
Can’t believe we got 4 avengers movies with the og team… technically only 3, as the story is split between two movies. Everyone says DC rushed it, but Marvel already did. We got fuck all screen time with the avengers together, for them to be ripped apart and killed off so quickly. Too many other movies to add in other superhero’s, when we didn’t get enough time with the originals.
If I was Marvel, this would be my roster: Cap ( Sam Wilson ) Captain Marvel Bucky Barnes She-Hulk Wong/Doctor Strange Shang-chi War Machine Shuri/Okoye Ms. Marvel ( if the Young Avengers do team up) Thor Ant-man and the Wasp Namor
I think spider man will either be the ending of the movie or the post credit its almost kinda like to comic when everyone forgot about after the world ended and only spider man knew what really happened and telling strange
Line up that makes sense Captain Sam America Hulk Daredevil Spider-Man Deadpool Captain Marvel Ms Marvel Shang Chi Antman Wasp Thor Shuri Doctor Strange
I kept saying since MoM came out, our current Avengers line up are just benchwarmers LMFAO. The only character I want to survive past this phase I Moon Knight
feige put beta ray bill on the back burner after cutting him from Ragnarok, he should have been thrown into gotg3 so he could take thor's place and support Valkyrie in the roster
Shang Chi is literally the one in this group that I like. Ant Man is cool, but he's not AVENGERS enough if that makes sense. Wong is cool, but it's just not Marvel enough
Even in comics and stuff pretty sure most the time the avengers never want spidy on the team because they find him to talkative and annoying or something like that
I heard it’s gonna be 3 different teams instead of two like it was in infinity war and each group will fight a different Kang from that big 3 in the post credit scene from antman and the wasp
I’m okay with the roster. Whoever is around for battle will fight. It’s part of the story, bad timing and unexpected moments can always happen. By the way, that woman is a sidekick comedian not an avenger. Hope they change that later on.
Ive lost my interest to watch Marvel movies in theaters. At this point, im pretty comfortable with waiting for them to hit streaming. Nothing has come out to make me hyped enough to pay admission price for the big screen experience. The only one as of current to give me that feeling is Deadpool 3
Take Captain Marvel (protecting space), Valkary (is the mayor of a town), Wong (Sorcerer Supreme), Aquafina (ha ha no), and She-Hulk (has a day job as a lawyer isn't a hero) out of it, and you probably have the real team.
I think the people on the team should be captain america, captain marvel, Thor, hulk, moon knight, Shang chi, ant man and the wasp, black panther, namor, and she hulk
I’m glad it sounds like marvel knows this team isn’t the best. And are going to delay it and change other stories to lead the big guys to be in the new avengers team when this movie comes out
Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther was supposed to be the big trinity heading into this phase. Unfortunately, Chadwick’s passing I think impacted that greatly as well as DS2 and The Marvels movie both flopped.
I think this is the for sure line up and they want to wait till the other movies come out so we can see how the other avengers are like spider man it’s to early to say he’s going to be in the movie same thing with Thor, moon knight, iron man, Loki etc I think for right now they want these characters to come back and the closer we get to the movie we are going to see a bigger line up but I do see where your coming from
It sucks we lost Chadwick he would’ve been amazing as the new leader of the avengers
They shoulda recasted tbh
It sucks that a human died because he wont be able to be in a super hero movie?
@@breezyyyyyyyyyyyou’re putting words in their comment
They Should've Recast
@@breezyyyyyyyyyy you act like I know bro personally it sucks he died but it sucks even more cause he had a bright future and a lot of talent
Why can’t the lineup just be:
Spiderman
Thor
Ant Man
Wasp
Captain American Sam Wilson
Shang chi
Hawkeye
Hulk (Hopefully Back to Savage Hulk)
Moon Knight
Deadpool
Wong
Shuri Black Panther
Hell even Namor
They have no room
I don’t see moonknight being in the avenges
@@robertomoya4502 Yeah, I don't think they would wanna use anyone they could use in the midnight sons
My friend that ain't never happening. Not anymore at least. Did you count how many MEN were in that team? Your fantasy team is Op, but we are lucky if we see Cap Carter at the end of Avengers 5 fixing everything all by herself and thus rendering all the MEN of your list useless 🤑🤑🤑🤑
@@bipolarewok Yeah dead pool too
Love to see Spider-Man in any way but realistically you only need one on the roster, G’iah from secret invasion. Doesn’t she have like all the powers? 🙄
I don’t think they showed enough for us to 1000% know she kept those powers. Could be but also might not be. Maybe they can only perma keep one power or who knows maybe she really is the strongest in the universe
Omg marvel definitely will Warsaw that whole show and pretend it never existed. It was garbage and knowone watched it.
She’s prob just getting established as the toughest only to get killed right away in avengers 5 as their way of establishing how powerful the new foe is cuz that’s the only way their current writers are able to show things is by being blatant
Honestly I hope Spider-Man and moonknight are in the upcoming avengers lineup as well
Same
RUMORS SAY SPIDER MAN WILL BE IN THE MOVIE AND HAVE A MAJOR ROLE
source?
@@FortniteOG659
I honestly don’t see Moon Knight appearing until Avengers: Secret Wars. I think Kang Dynasty will be more of a Infinity War type movie where we are limited to certain heroes, and we wait until we have lost some of there are some who can’t fight to bring in characters like Moon Knight. A character from one of the tv series that I think could appear, if Captain Marvel shows up, is Ms. Marvel, possibly also Kate Bishop if Hawkeye shows up. But I say being Hawkeye into Avengers 5 seeing as Avengers 5 is basically the next Infinity War, and Hawkeye was benched for Infinity War, same with Ant-Man. I think Hawkeye and Ant-Man are a must, along with Adam Wilson, Doctor Strange, and Shang-Chi, and Hulk
And Spider-Man, forgot to add him
Lineup sucks so far lmao. At least it’ll change and will hopefully be much better than this current roster…
This must be fake and agreed with you this gonna failed. The First Avengers movie may only 6 but great impact moment
Katie better be involved as much as Ned Leeds was for Infinity War.
1 joke scene and that's it.
@@ccelite3782agreed, we all know they couldn’t show much of Ned because he’s so powerful he’d just eat Thanos
Yeah even ned solos
Not trying to be rude but there HAD to be a person that says lmao
So he's saying Moon Knight, Namor, Black Panther, nobody from the Thunderbolts team or any of the remaining Eternals would be willing to help out against an Avengers level threat? Surely there are still plenty of heroes, anti-heroes and villains on Earth that would unite to stop a threat that big.
Nah fr this list is cap
I legit forgot about the eternals
Man….id watch these Avengers on streaming 😂
While I’m sad Spider-Man isn’t on the roster that means maybe Spider-Man might stay street level for a bit.
That’s not the whole cast
Didn’t people complain he was involved with the Avengers too much?
Isnt spiderman move to difference reality ?He nolonger in the timeline with current avenger
@@danny90099 That aint true he is still in the mcu
@@danny90099 no he’s still in the mcu. Where did you hear that?
The lineup should be
Spider-Man
Captain America (Sam Wilson)
Hulk (Savage)
Shang Chi
Ant man
Wasp
Black Panther (Shuri)
Doctor Strange
White Vision
i think doctor strange is better in his own
The Team Should be like 'Avengers: United They Stand' Series with; Sam Wilson (CA), Antman, Wasp, Hawkeye, Vision, Scarlet witch (if alive), Wonder man, and Shuri (instead of Tigra)
Moon knight should be included too imo.
@@earthsongebhe’s going to be apart of the mid knight sons
I’m happy to see Shang chi, ant man and also if it’s rage hulk definitely happy to see him as well. (If the hulk movie rumours are true it’s rage hulk)
This should be the line up:
Hulk (rage)
Thor
Captain America Sam Wilson
Captain Marvel
Spider Man
Ant Man
Wasp
White Vision
Dr Strange
War Machine
Moon Knight
Shuri
Wong
(This is not including other universe characters like wolverine, deadpool, etc)
Prob as their way of showing that she hulk is better than hulk by her controlling her emotions and him not being able to lol she’ll prob be the one who teaches him how to be hulk
Antman: where's Thor
Captain America: babysitting💀
Originally the mcu was going to be completely destroyed in avengers 5 and Tom hollands Spider-Man would’ve been the chosen one by the TVA to be apart of the multiverse avengers team to follow up in secret wars. If Spider-Mans not on the list for avengers 5 that means they’ve probably scrapped that plan. Because doctor strange and Thor are also missing from this roster, it’s also possible that they’re leading secret wars along with the old heroes and they’re intentionally making avengers 5 to flop to make secret wars look better 😭😭
Yeah they said that spiderman was goimg to be the lead in that movie too so i think your right
Just imagining the one on one between Katy and Kang is the funniest thing ever
😂😂
@@3CFilmsClipsone thing we know if Hawkeye is not in the team they will lose and then in secret wars he will come out of retirement (again) and they will win.
Soild team but I wish Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Thor, and Shuri were in this roster
No Shuri
Why Katie bro 💀
Bcuz she’s a gud character
@@Last-Scar-5675yeah it’s fine if she’s part of the movie but how would she be an avenger she’s just a random person
Honestly I don’t mind the team as long as more characters appear, nothing against their characters but you’ll need more characters when it comes to having a chance in fighting Endgame level threats.
Honestly if I had to choose who I want to be on the New Avengers team, and no character was off limits, I would have:
- Captain America (Sam Wilson)
- Black Panther (T’Challa)
- Captain Marvel
- Doctor Strange
- Ant Man (Scott Lang)
- Wasp (Hope Van Dyne)
- Black Panther (Shuri)
- Thor (Jane Foster)
- She Hulk
- Hawkeye (Kate Bishop)
- Black Widow (Yelena Belova)
- Moon Knight
- Shang Chi
- Daredevil
- Ms Marvel
- Spectrum
- Falcon (Joaquin Torres)
- White Wolf (Bucky Barnes)
- War Machine
- Vivian Vision (the daughter of Vision who’s rumoured to be appearing so why the hell not)
And I would have some of the remaining OG 6, Hank and Janet, Spider Man, the Guardians, some X-Men, Fantastic 4, Thunderbolts, Young Avengers, Midnight Sons and street level characters be honorary members who help out from time to time but mostly stay separate.
I know characters like T’Challa and Jane are dead in the MCU but this is just my personal roster if I had to work on my own MCU or something.
I’d replace Valkyrie Katie Falcon with Spidey Doc Strange and Thor
That’d make the team soooo much better
I like Ant-Man and Wasp, but I think there are better candidates than them and they should be replaced with Daredevil and Deadpool. This would make team even more better.
No keep Falcon we need a Captain America
@@lexramstudios1386 no no the other falcon
@@lexramstudios1386 no no the other falcon
Not the “Losers Team” 😂😂😂 Chris is hilarious
Great Video Cris! I want Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, and Thor on the Roster! 👍
Marvel Studios: why do these reported Avengers rosters get leaked into the internet for Avengers 5, we haven’t started pre-production yet.
And i also feel like the new main avengers team will go some where so thats when the young avengers will come in kate bishop, Isaiah bradley, skarr, ms marvel, wiccan and speed and thor's step daughter most likely
In your video earlier today about the source getting the Batman 2 news wrong, they said everyone gets stuff wrong at times, this is hopefully the case here
You described my current feelings for the MCU
I enjoy them, but I want to love them just like I did the first 4 phases of Marvel
I want Spider-Man to meet hulk and Thor still can’t believe we didn’t get that in endgame
This makes a lot of sense. More characters will be involved in the future Avengers film (I would think so) but these are the core team. Like Shiri, Colonel Rhodes, Strange, Hawkeye, some of the young avengers, and some of the thunderbolts. Also we will begin to have some mutants and maybe the FF make an appearance
1:15 (Katie)
for the Kaite thing you mentioned, maybe she's there as a Hawkeye/archer replacement due to Jeremy Renner's uncertain status at the time.
there was that snowmobile accident he had I think where he almost died and was out of commission for a while. So maybe whenever this source got their hands on this line up roster, this might've been from a time when they weren't sure of if Renner might be able to commit to being Hawkeye for Avengers 5. she might've just been there as a temp measure just in case, but not fully committing or something.
I'm not really sure what to think of Kaitie due to not being sure if she has a comic counterpart, as well as not being well versed at all in Shang-Chi's section of Marvel comics to see how she could be helpful in an Avengers level fight at this point. I mean she could always get good with time and earn that spot. But I'd be kind of afraid she'd get squashed with getting sent to a higher level like that. I could maybe see her with maybe with the street level heroes or something and getting her footing there perhaps with some magical aids or something, and maybe acting as support for Shang Chi if he called her in for an Avengers thing. But as of right now with what the very little I've seen from the movie, I'm not sure it's a good idea putting her on the front line like that.
Benefit of the doubt maybe this team might be good. If all works out and the cast has good chemistry then I think this movie will work
I also really want the movie to be different. Instead of a big battlefield like Infinity War and Endgame where you can't focus. I want an actual team who have to work together on a mission, then focus on smaller 1 on 1 battles as they journey. Then save for a bigger battle but make it day light so you can see properly.
The roster isn't bad but I would've liked the 90's Avengers which include Captain America, Photon, the Black Knight, Wonder Man, She-Hulk, Sersi, Starfox & Hercules. Hell, I would even add Shuri since she's just Black Panther meanwhile M'Baku is king. It would work well with Phase 4 and 5 and forming it would be fun
I really hope they end up doing the midnight sons in an upcoming title, and having a more darker group. It would be awesome to see charecters like moon knight, daredevil, the punisher, werewolf by night, blade, black knight, and ghost rider. If they did it right I feel like it would be a massive hit
Guys, I think the time has come that I never thought we’d see. Especially this soon, but the days of great MCU and super hero movies in general, are over 😩 the executed the first 3 phases so well and it just got to a climax that I don’t think they’ll ever reach again.
I remember when everyone was like WTF is this avengers team back in the first movie....??
This line is ok not mad at it the line was going charge anyway so hopefully we get a great story, great action and a great director who can do it right
Not Bad tbh .. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Probably gonna be more/surprises. This is probably who i see.. at like “Avengers headquarters” most of the movie.
Spiderman deserves to be an avenger, he has gone through crazy stuff in movies and yet everybody underestimates him, he needs to be an avenger if you ask me
dr strange is off in the multiverse to fix what he did (from the ending of mutliverse of madness)
katy i could see as a tag along with shang chi, she goes where he goes.
valkyrie and marvel finally showing that connection they have?
spiderman will show up to help out like in infinity wars (on a field trip and gets the tingle)
Without these Avengers neccesary in this movie I think the grossing and tickets to see this movie will be affected
Knowing disney, the teams will be young avengers and a-force.
It does say it's a guess so I'm not putting too much stock in it. But this lineup absolutely sucks. It's like they looked at their most successful movies of the past 4 years (No Way Home, MoM, Wakanda Forever, GotG3, Thor4 in that order) and said "best I can do is Valkyrie"
Personally a compelling lineup for me looks like:
Black Panther
Shang-Chi
Peter Quill
Spider-Man
Captain America
Hulk and She-Hulk
Captain Marvel
Wong
Ant-Man
Of course you can have other characters show up, but I think there's enough starpower here with someone like Chris Pratt or Tom Holland who are notably absent from their roster.
The line up should be Captain America, Captain Marvel, Hulk, She Hulk, Valkyrie, Thor, Shang Chi, Spider-Man, Black Panther, (Maybe the New Falcon), Ant Man and the Wasp.
If Marvel listened to you they'd fail. Black Panther, Strange, Thor, and Spider-Man had the only profitable movies
CM made 1B@@Ysl.phantom
Also, he literally has all 4 you named on the lineup@@Ysl.phantom
@@Ysl.phantom T'challa Needs To Come Back
This would be the next Avengers line
Thor
Hulk
Doctor Strange
Wong
Spiderman
Ant man
Wasp
Captain Marvel
Captain America Sam Wilson
Valkyrie
Winter Soldier
Shang Chi
Shuri
Namor
The Team SHOULD be:
Captain America/Sam Wilson
Captain Marvel
Shang-Chi
Ant-Man
Wasp
She-Hulk
Moon Knight
White Vision
Black Panther (Shuri)
Namor
Star-Lord (since he’s on earth now)
& MAYBE Daredevil & Echo for more street level additions similar to the New Avengers team in the comics.
If you want some OG Avengers then throw in Hulk, War Machine and Hawkeye for support or mentors. Valkyrie wouldn’t make any sense as an official member, neither would Wong. I would save them, along with Spider-Man, Thor and Doctor Strange for Avengers 6 when everyone comes together.
I don’t get it they would add in Katy( a character who we completely forgot about) but not spider man( who supposed to be starring in the film) ?
Where the F is Spider-Man and Thor. Spider-Man is literally the lead of part 1 and Thor is still teased for 2 more films.
1. Thor VS. Hercules
2. Untitled Avengers film no.5
Daniel RPK said you’ll find out why Spider-Man is not in the avengers team in Spider-Man 4
Kate Bishop is rumored to be in spider man 4 and avengers 5
@@dragon9slayer250i want solo spidey but it’s sad we need him in the avengers
@@QuickThekidd yeah I get that
3:15 (Roster was set up to be the loosing team) (Maybe Dr.Doom comes by and kicks everyone's butt)
I kind of like the idea of this being maybe the loosing team
and perhaps this is becasue it's a combo reflection of our world and the MCU
like maybe after The Snap, the world really did change and get shifted. A lot like how The Pandemic shifted and changed a lot of plans for everyone.
like maybe Chadwick being gone, the various heroes being shaken up or not being able to do it as much anymore or something
and there just isn't the strong roster,
so everyone is kind of divided and off doing their own thing doing their best from their corners of the MCU, with some having it more together than others
so when a truly uniting threat shows up, it brings these characters together, and they don't fully have it together due to not having the same resources and advantages as the original team. (Had Coulson, Fury, Shield, Iron Man financial backing, etc)
This team could have a few things, and a little fire power with the roster, but not enough to deal with whatever this hypothetical thereat is
I know it was probably going to be Kang due to the failed multiverse plans, but who knows what they could be shifting this to
But for your point of the roster you have displayed not really going to sell tickets and getting people out to see it, that I agree and might not be a good idea.
I kind of like the above idea loosely on paper as a potential story. But don't know if it has the energy to fully be realized.
it makes me wonder if there's a reason why this roster is the way it is?
is this just a loose line up idea that the higher ups have told the writer at the time that they have available to work with in their nebulous shooting line up due to scheduling, some testing info, and just who's around based on the rights and just what's going on with other Marvel projects they kind of have in the works?
Could it maybe be set up to look like they're dealing with Kang or a series of other villains, but they're being distracted or led to some kind of trap. And instead of Kang it's actually a higher level threat like Dr.Doom and he's there to get something important off one of the team members or get something that's connected to them. And in the process he kicks everyone's butt...I don't know. Wasn't sure where I was going with this. Kind of ran out of steam on this one.
I hope they change some of sutur like make hulk savage, make Thor in it cool, drop she hulk and Valkyrie. Also make sure the characters are not just jokes.
I can believe they can make an appearance in the Avengers, but not be the only ones.
Marvel should bring in the SERIOUS Heavy hitters for the main team..... and some how throw in Madisynn as a wild card lol
PS: Please reinvent the Hulk. make him uncontrollable and savage again...
My ideal line up is:
Sam Wilson
Ant man
Wasp
Spider-Man
Dr.Strange
Shang chi
Hulk
Thor
Hawk guy
(Captain marvel could show up not as an avenger but because she is needed)
2:18 (Valkyrie)
I forget how long ago I heard this. I thought i saw something about Chris Hemsworth not doing to well or something. I think I recall there was some documentary he did recently and all that and him not feeling so good after that. And I think he said he might've wanted to pull back from doing movies and I guess I thought that in turn meant maybe retiring his Thor role. At least until Secret Wars for a brief bit and getting replaced in the restarted Marvel Universe.
side note, I kind of hope and want Marvel to maybe put a pause on major MCU stuff somehow. I don't know or think this is logical from a filmmaking/franchise angle or an finacial thing. But considering how people have been throwing around the superhero fatigue phrase for the past year from all the mediocre output, I think it might be time to maybe put a pause on Marvel for a bit. Like finish whatever contracts they have with their actors and phase things out after Secret Wars. And then take a pause for a few years production wise. But behind the scenes work on developing a new vision for what they want to show in a new set of phases. Especially now since they have the X-Men back. The only characters they don't quite have the distribution rights back to for solo films are Namor and Hulk that are still under Universal/Comcast. I'm still still a little unsure of the status of all that.
oops, sorry for the side tangent there.
but I think Valkyire sort of makes sense as a Thor replacement if Hemsworth might be stepping back.
Time to bring in the West Coast Avengers 🫡
i think marvel shouldve sticked to the formula of having each phase to end with an avengers film
We gon talk about Kahhori opening multiverse portals like she’s an even more OP American chavez
Shang chi Should have been a street level character with martial arts based movies or shows.
So it's like the rent a cop lineup of hero's 😂
😢😢😢😢😢 Its almost sad that Marvel is slowly having some trouble.....and we are already 2 Days into 2024.
AYYYY I asked Alex that question, I made it to a 3C video!
so far in the comics hulk does remember who spider man is yet banner doesn't
This team is getting body in the first 30 minutes no joke.
My idea team is
Sam Captain
Doctors Strange
Thor
She-Hulk
Shang-Chi
Spider-Man or black panther
I mean Katy is a package deal if we have Shang-Chi but I wouldn’t fill out the team that way- where’s a Moon Knight or again, we got Shuri as Black Panther
Can’t believe we got 4 avengers movies with the og team… technically only 3, as the story is split between two movies.
Everyone says DC rushed it, but Marvel already did. We got fuck all screen time with the avengers together, for them to be ripped apart and killed off so quickly. Too many other movies to add in other superhero’s, when we didn’t get enough time with the originals.
Nah this b team ain’t cutting it
Peter Quill is still on Earth. Might be a good time to tap into his daddy's genes.
Introduce Ghost Rider in this movie and you'll sell tickets. Easy marketing
Luckily this is just a guess and not an actual scoop of his
katy better be like some kinda joke/peter from x force type character.
did everyone in this channel just forget that spiderman in 2022 made almost as much as an avengers film.
If I was Marvel, this would be my roster:
Cap ( Sam Wilson )
Captain Marvel
Bucky Barnes
She-Hulk
Wong/Doctor Strange
Shang-chi
War Machine
Shuri/Okoye
Ms. Marvel ( if the Young Avengers do team up)
Thor
Ant-man and the Wasp
Namor
i guess bucky is in the thunderbolts? what marvel is doing now feels like its cannibalising itself.
@@AshyCat You never know, he can always show up.
I think spider man will either be the ending of the movie or the post credit its almost kinda like to comic when everyone forgot about after the world ended and only spider man knew what really happened and telling strange
Line up that makes sense
Captain Sam America
Hulk
Daredevil
Spider-Man
Deadpool
Captain Marvel
Ms Marvel
Shang Chi
Antman
Wasp
Thor
Shuri
Doctor Strange
I kept saying since MoM came out, our current Avengers line up are just benchwarmers LMFAO.
The only character I want to survive past this phase I Moon Knight
feige put beta ray bill on the back burner after cutting him from Ragnarok, he should have been thrown into gotg3 so he could take thor's place and support Valkyrie in the roster
End game is a continuation of infinity war. It’s technically the same movie
put deadpool as a leader for those rejects and u got my ticket 🎫
This is the B-Team.
I agree Chris. She-Hulk IS Mommy.
Not having Iron Man, Steve Rogers, Thor, Spider-Man, Black Panther, or Dr. Strange is pretty devastating.
This is the saddest MCU lineup, how the mighty have fallen
Avengers 5 needs to be secret wars part 1 and avengers 6 needs to be secret wars part 2. Anything else will flop
Nah, avengers 5 needs to kill kang and the following phase can be the secret wars trilogy with different and better villains.
Ngl I would've loved to see Moonknight in avengers 5
They need to just go New Avengers, Spider-Man, Thing, Wolverine, Power Man, Ms Marvel and Cap Sam Wilson
People got more excited for the thunderbolts team than this 😂
Shang Chi is literally the one in this group that I like. Ant Man is cool, but he's not AVENGERS enough if that makes sense. Wong is cool, but it's just not Marvel enough
Even in comics and stuff pretty sure most the time the avengers never want spidy on the team because they find him to talkative and annoying or something like that
I heard it’s gonna be 3 different teams instead of two like it was in infinity war and each group will fight a different Kang from that big 3 in the post credit scene from antman and the wasp
I’m okay with the roster. Whoever is around for battle will fight. It’s part of the story, bad timing and unexpected moments can always happen. By the way, that woman is a sidekick comedian not an avenger. Hope they change that later on.
Ive lost my interest to watch Marvel movies in theaters. At this point, im pretty comfortable with waiting for them to hit streaming. Nothing has come out to make me hyped enough to pay admission price for the big screen experience. The only one as of current to give me that feeling is Deadpool 3
Take Captain Marvel (protecting space), Valkary (is the mayor of a town), Wong (Sorcerer Supreme), Aquafina (ha ha no), and She-Hulk (has a day job as a lawyer isn't a hero) out of it, and you probably have the real team.
People this is some of the cast not all of this chill everyone
Also isn't starlord on earth now too? Why would they not put him in the line-up?
He doesn't have space gadgets?
@@lexramstudios1386 did they say he didn't have his gadgets at the end of guardians 3?
I like this team
Honestly the ONLY MCU movie that had all the emotions comes out and the love for the MCU again (this year) was guardians 3…. Literally that’s it…
Sam Wilson: ✅
Captain marvel: ✅
Hulk:✅
Valkery:✅
Wong:✅
Ant man:✅
Wasp:✅
Katy:❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌❌
Shang shi: ✅
She hulk: ✅
I think the people on the team should be captain america, captain marvel, Thor, hulk, moon knight, Shang chi, ant man and the wasp, black panther, namor, and she hulk
It makes sense bc Thor is a dad now
Why the hell is no one mentioning war machine? The dude deserves his place in the avengers, especially with iron man gone.
I’m glad it sounds like marvel knows this team isn’t the best. And are going to delay it and change other stories to lead the big guys to be in the new avengers team when this movie comes out
Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, Black Panther was supposed to be the big trinity heading into this phase. Unfortunately, Chadwick’s passing I think impacted that greatly as well as DS2 and The Marvels movie both flopped.
I think this is the for sure line up and they want to wait till the other movies come out so we can see how the other avengers are like spider man it’s to early to say he’s going to be in the movie same thing with Thor, moon knight, iron man, Loki etc I think for right now they want these characters to come back and the closer we get to the movie we are going to see a bigger line up but I do see where your coming from
They need to add dom from fast and furius. FOR FAMILY