Since so many of you are asking, here are the budget priced but great sounding and looking studio speakers in the video: geni.us/pqtXxr Max Tech Wallpapers ➡ bit.ly/2WNc6Qw
This display from Asus has better specs than Apple pro monitor, cheaper and comes with all the accessories including the stand ruclips.net/video/BcVmvwCye9A/видео.html
Though it may not be a display for large Hollywood studios, it’s perfect for Smaller studios. Just wished they made something like a Pro Display HDR that fit better with people like coders who want a high quality external display to go with their MacBook Pro.
Your videos are really something special. I love the honesty. You cut through all the bs, and just call a product for what it is. - This is by far, the best and most informative review I've seen.
At least he said jack of all trades, master of none. Which suits this monitor very well. Thing is, you could get a monitor for much less, that fits into that description.
It's just 60hz...not even 4k worth it...rather 4k to 8k tv or monitor. 8k tv is too big 55inch and over. 8k cameras film or sports $5k plus. 1080i broadcast...some 4k gaming and streaming..drop fps and lag.
You can get it from this link assets.adobe.com/public/958e4bf0-a14d-41a7-7ffb-f6d4c2e7e811/b5086afb-731e-40c8-85dd-fce1a1fe43ca Or from the description .but you have to scroll a lot since there are lots of wallpapers.
@@Abbasjawad373 عباس, ما عرفت احمل الصوره من هذا الموقع بدقه عاليه وبدون العالمه المائيه. المشكله حتى ما يقولك ادفع يعني ماني داري كيف احمل. لو تعرف بالله تعلمني, وتسلم.
IMO, the biggest drawback of this display is the lack of an OSD. The OSD provides a platform agnostic experience, and I do see this being the biggest reason why many people avoid it, even if they do have a bias towards the Mac platform, but do occasionally use non-bootcamp Windows. And to a certain "Ryan Rife" when he said "you're comparing it to something that is nearly 10x more expensive" (8:15) That's what Apple started by comparing it to a display that is $43k
Great review. I am very much in agreement with your take on this display. I am a Dolby certified colorist and I have color graded more than 25 feature films, tv series and this monitor is for me. Over the past year I have bought and returned two monitors from ASUS. I love what ASUS is trying to do, but so many issues and caveats. The latest unit with a built in probe, was not automatic like their video shows and still requires connection to a computer and their color tool (software) which we could only get for Mac in German language. So many other issues. We tried LG and Dell and they all fell short. The Dell at 1000 nits, which I need for HDR, looked awful in Rec 709 mode, so then you need another monitor. I cannot afford the Sony HDR reference monitor at $43,000, so I needed to find a solution and the Apple XDR monitor ended up being that solution as I already own the M2 MacPro Tower. I purchased the Nano glass to reduce reflections. The one thing I can say is that the off axis viewing is not as good as I would like. Primarily I am straight on but I do like how OLED displays in these situations.
I do not process photos or videos. I work with Forex futures markets and the like. I use technical (graphical) analysis. I often use up to 12 pairs of lines with overlapping lines (up to 24 lines). In the RGB space, when programming, I am limited to 256 brightness levels. In regular LG monitors, I see almost no difference on small lines within 220-256, and within 0-20, dark colors are almost indistinguishable from the black background, which is actually gray. I hope that a wide range of contrast and brightness will correct my situation. A billion / 256 gives a big difference between adjacent lines, as it seems to me, and a much greater effect will be given by increased contrast.
What about the speed of the other ports when I connect a 14 inch M1 Max? Still only USB2? Doesn't it make sense to have higher speeds only on the 16 inch version. Thanks a lot
Is it worth to even get this monitor with the 7k one coming out soon? Should I just get the 5k max studio display? Is the 5k Mac Studio display 10bit ?
The design really looks fantastic! But how about dust getting into the display due to the lattice back? How will you deal with that? One option is to clean it like every other day... 😅
I just don't understand why other manufacturers don't have a glossy/glass display option along side their matte options on their high end monitors. I've even reached out to manufacturers requesting a custom option and paying more, but never heard back.
@@greggoodenough5607 The glossy, "glassy", flashing look, you love so much, is being created by the glass on the screen. You need ambient light, for it to have an effect. That's the simple characteristics of glass. So, if you sit in a very dark room, that effect will more or less disappear. You can check by sitting in front of your monitor, in your working position, when the monitor is turned off. All those reflections you will see - the mirror effect that's unavoidable, will be added to what you see on the monitor when the computer is turned on. These reflections are unwanted, on professional monitors, so you'll never see them there, or maybe only for pro color grading monitors, where the color grader sits in a very dark room anyway. And normal people would probably not want these as well, and/or they add unnecessary costs, to the display. If you do my test and place yourself in front of your screen for 10 minutes in daylight, with the computer turned off, and thoroughly study the reflections, you will never again be able to un-see them, when the monitor is on.
Hello, I would be interested in how big the distance is from the wall to the front of the display, i.e. if the stand is placed on the desk and is moved up to the wall, how many centimeters is it from the wall to the front of the panel?
It was Apple, who made the comparison, between a reference display and tve XDR. Its all on them. And no, those photos with blooming aren't exaggerated. Pro testers got the same results.
What is the difference in the viewing experience of the standard glass vs. the nano textured model? Does the latter look much more matted out than the former? Is it less "dazzling"? If anyone has any info, please help.
I bought the nano glass and really like it. I don’t see any glares. I’ve heard people say the image is not as sharp but I think the image is very sharp and would pay for this again.
The point is that also the human eye with its lense and perception has a limit of contrast gradients it can still dissolve. So in most cases one can't see the blooming. But I like stars!
can I use 3 pro display xdr with a laptop 4090 having 3 thunderbolt4 ports ? or do i need to go for a pc biult an satisfy myself with three 5k2k displays ? I am into trading / no gaming . need a clean setup with good resolutions like 6k on all 3 displays also connect 85inch tv with hdmi2.1
I wish on the list of Macs that it doesn’t have full resolution for, that he included the Mac mini. I don’t know how you don’t include the Mac mini with an external display.
Very good review, thanks. Not sure that understand you right - you said 30% of what apple locks you in when doing HDR. This means 500nits (~30% from 1600) or 30 from 500 (which very low then). When then this 1600 is used? In normal use when watching HDR content only?
You heard correct. He said to lower to 30% brightness, to get rid of blooming. He also said, that would be the setting for HDR color grading. This is simply not true! When selecting the DCI-P3 mode, the screen goes much brighter, and blooming will occur. There's no difference to what the XDR does, compared to other IPS panels. It has the dame pros and cons, as any other IPS panel, in that price range.
Good that you brought this. We in Cinema use Eizo hdr10+ monitors that cost 35000$ or 25 lakhs after tax and duty in India. Apple's XDR CAN'T EVEN get closer to color and brightness. But they had balls to compare that with high end reference monitors. But hey they're disrupting the market really good. Now LG has to down the cost with hdr ultrawides too. And Eizo will also think this around. Man but I'm still expecting you to kill this Mac pro and xdr with threadripper rig and Nvidia rtx 6000 or 8000 that costs way less. We'll I've the knowledge but the brands don't sponsor me to do this but you can man. Please try and do it.
The Threadripper CPUs are more powerful but they support only 256GB of RAM. To get upto 2TB of RAM, you need Threadripper Pro CPUs. Plus the Radeon Pro Vega II Duo blows away the Quadro RTX 8000 for lower price. It costs $5200 which is less than the $5500 that the Quadro costs.
So, long story short: this monitor is amazing for hi-end grading of commercials and shorts as long as brightness is in grading mode or at 30-ish %, correct?
It’s amazing at any brightness in normal lighting conditions but if you are working in pitch black or a very dim room it’s also amazing In any scenario at 50% brightness or below (and Apple locks you in at a dimmer amount when grading just like you should be at with any monitor) and you can even use it at 100% for most scenes or things as well (if you want to burn your retinas lol) But IF you have the brightness up and if you have very small spots that are white on a pure black background especially if it’s a sharp line or spot you can have some glowing as I showed but not as bad as many others did with inaccurately taken photos.
The real tipping point is destination. There really aren't that many HDR compatible delivery methods yet (especially ones that have consistent support across all, or even most HDR displays). It'd be amazing for grading HDR content intended for the web, and especially mobile viewing since iPhones & iPads + RUclips is probably the most ubiquitous method out there right now. If you want to grade for Netflix, Cable or terrestrial Broadcast, I don't think the folks you'd be working with would consider the Pro Display XDR to be an acceptable solution... At least not yet.
Great review as usually Max, Is this display still Top at the end of 2021 for photo and video editing (no any HDR Video edits) or you can recommend some other display? Thank you in advance Спасибо и С Наступающим Новым Годом!
How small does 6k looks on 32 inches, is what i wonder!!!! if you have to scale it down to 5k or 4k to be able to see, how does it compare with other 32inches 4k displays(with similar specs) like Asus ProArt? Questions that you should answer when dropping $6k+ on a monitor.
This was an absolutely fantastic review! You covered virtually everything I wanted to hear about with one semi-exception. You show on screen the Forbes interview with Grant Petty near the end when you're saying "On the other hand, if this display can perform closer to a now $22 one [...] and programs like Davinci Resolve, for the first time ever, are confident enough to allow it to be used without the external hardware" That IS still an *if* though isn't it? Have Apple/Black Magic/Adobe come out and said they think it's okay to relax their previous recommendation that all critical judgements be based off of a display connected to a dedicated video I/O box? I mean if you're only ever delivering HDR to RUclips, what would it matter whether it's not *quite* all there? But for folks trying to deliver to the festival circuit or other outlets, it doesn't sound like there's been much movement to embrace the PD XDR... That said, it would be super cool if Apple were to finally bridge this gap, I'm just waiting to hear from someone in the industry that they think it's actually viable... not going to hold my breath though.
Max, I was at the Apple flagship store here in Chicago, checking out the Pro Display XDR. Really, really disappointed the brightness was identical to my 2017 5K iMc and LG 5K display. If I understand you correctly, the Pro Display XDR will default at about 500 nits and will to get brighter unless you're working with HDR. If that's true, I have zero interest and will stick with my 5K displays, as all the XDR is for normal users is a larger 4K or 5K display. 6K didn't blow me away like I thought it would---the display just looked like the 32 inch version of the 5K iMac or LG---just a larger retina display. I can see it being useful if you work with HDR or need to edit video in 4K, but for normal users? The XDR seems to be just a larger Retina display. :(
Your exactly right. The PPI is exactly the same as the 5K they just compensated for the extra size and the brightness is also the same since I guess that’s the proper amount for SDR and they think it’s good for normal uses. As I said in the video personally I wish they let it get brighter. Check out or comparison with the 5K. 6K Pro Display XDR vs 5K LG Ultrafine - Worth $4700 More? ruclips.net/video/kLKOOFaI0gY/видео.html
@@MaxTechOfficial Yeah, this is a no go for me. Thanks for explaining it---again, I was super disappointed when I got up to the machine and realized it was basically the same as my LG 4K and 5K--just larger.
I am a Trader and play games rarely ...i HAVE A ( ROG Strix Scar 18 (2023) G834JY-N6056WS LAPTOP) with ( 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL , 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort/ power delivery / G-SYNC and 1x Thunderbolt4 support DisplayPort/ G-SYNC) can I buy 2 pro display xdr and use it with this laptop with full resolutions ?
That one film display may be for Hollywood and movies. But looking at the price.... I can get a pretty decked out Mac Pro and 2 of Apples displays. Or almost a Tesla truck. But I’m still over here with $20 in my pocket so I can’t say much 🙃
Unfortunately yes and we couldn’t reshoot. We got a new shotgun and it’s 10db more sensitive. We turned down the gain but looks like I was a bit too loud when talking.
There are actually four 8K monitors, one from Dell, two from Viewsonic and one from Philips in 2021. The Pro Display XDR is one of the highest if not the highest resolution monitors on the market. 8K monitors are pretty niche even in 2021 and most pro monitors are 4K or 5K.
That it brings some minor flaws like linus pointed out. But it is very cheap compared to the other high end monitors. Unfortunately no windows support...
This product is currently in limbo in terms of what's it for. A professional reviewer dropped the hammer on this very hard and is a hard "NO" for pro use. Therefore this is much more suitable for content consumption. But it's too expensive for that soo...
Like the content. A gentle reminder, though. Those WHO, not that. People WHO, not that. Anyone WHO, not that. People are who, not that. After all, the '60s band was called The WHO, not The THAT. ;-)
The constant pitching of the Micro Center is annoying. Do it at the end of the video please. Nearest one to Northern California is in Tustin, Ca. so its useless to us up here as much of their products are for pick up only.
*Max, I appreciate your reviews and opinion immensely, and I always check you out, but I am not sure where you are going in this review ? You're doing so much equivocating that I got lost in it. For $6,000.00 USD, most professionals will expect complete accuracy here. For the amount this should be doable shouldn't it ? In Canada we're looking at $8,798.00 CAD with the Nano Textured Glass and the magnetic metal stand. This is allot of cash for a computer monitor.*
Most professional monitors are far more expensive costs tens of thousands of dollars. The Pro Display XDR is a bargain compared to other professional monitors.
The display delivers more accurate colors than professional OLED monitors. I'm gonna get one to watch movies and photo editing. Matt displays are terrible.
7:15 Most monitors use 350 nits or less, because it's not needed for normal consumption. 600 nits SDR is a total overkill. Your videos are only in Rec.709, so you would want no more than 100-120 nits to color grade those videos of yours. 8:50 Defititely a jack of all trades, master of none, and why it's heavily overpriced. 9:30 A HDR grading monitor doesn't have to provide 1000 nits brightness, at full screen. Studies have shown, that of all HDR monies made, it's only a few percentages of the screen that lit up, in various bright scenes. For SDR, any monitor will do, as long as the display is color accurate. 10:00 Yeah, the build quality is definetely lower on the Asus, concidering the Asus weigh more. Wait what?! Maybe it's the other way around! The Asus is thick, because it's a sturdy monitor, meant to last, meant to get rid of heat well, meant to handle more sophisticated control. The 2½ times less pixels is meaningless. It's a display, meant for professional work. It's not a toy, like the XDR. 10:30 "Way better materials". Like what? A display like the Asus is built up on a metal frame, encapsuled in a plastic frame. While Apple did it in one go, making the frame the bearing part as well. This is a design choice, and by design I don't mean "nice". It cuts down on complexity, but also adds cost. And yes, the XDR looks more like an office monitor, whereas the Asus looks industry. The Asus is meant to be (ab)used. 10:45 "It doens't need to look so nice and pretty". Just clarifying, that he/you was talking about the monitor chassis/frame, not the display and quality of the image. 13:35 You have no clue what you are talking about here. Any display, even the cheapest $100 displays, have several color profiles. More expensive displays have more color profiles., meant for professional work. The XDR definetely needed dedicated hardware, to be color accurate. The Apple OS cannot compensate for this. You need a clean feed to the display, and that's only possible via a breakout box, that bypasses the internal GPU in the computer. And yeah, you could say, it gets closer, but it's not closer than any other good monitor. And you can get better displays for a lot less. 13:49 Read the article. It says hardly anything about the XDR being good enough for professional work. In fact, the article you point to, talks about the stationary Apple tower, nut the XDR.
Tempted to get the XDR to replace my old Thunderbolt display. I only do coding, so the pro features would go to waste, but the design and quality of this thing is bar none. But it's still a hard pill to swallow due to the price. If there was a lower spec 5K version of the Pro display, I would order in a heartbeat.
*If* you've got the $ there are worse things to buy. Getting up to, or staying at what Apple calls "Retina Display" resolutions (varies by size of screen and viewing distance) will have a significant impact in your speed and accuracy while reading, so imagine there could be some actual benefit even if most of what you do is staring at text all day.
Blah , blah , blah, blah , blah as always about nothing! Where is the color Gamut Test , screen uniformity test and other tests that are a must for any professional monitor? 6k means nothing since we don’t even have Consumer 6k Video cameras on the market yet! $1000-$1200 professional monitors by Asus, Benq and Dell are the best 4K monitors and perfectly enough for most users.
i would definitely going with two color correct monitors like eizo instead of one of these, because macos with mac display and color sync isnt the perfect solution for grading. so instad of 6000 dollars for this display i would go with a decklink card and two color correction monitors, same price.
Since so many of you are asking, here are the budget priced but great sounding and looking studio speakers in the video: geni.us/pqtXxr
Max Tech Wallpapers ➡ bit.ly/2WNc6Qw
Max Tech wallpaper at 5:32?
This display from Asus has better specs than Apple pro monitor, cheaper and comes with all the accessories including the stand ruclips.net/video/BcVmvwCye9A/видео.html
How the fuck do I download those wallpapers?
@@juancarlosgzrz Have you figured it out yet?
I'm no photo/ video editor, but still got the Pro Display XDR. Trust me, it is the BEST monitor I have ever used. Ever. Nice video @MaxTech.
Though it may not be a display for large Hollywood studios, it’s perfect for Smaller studios. Just wished they made something like a Pro Display HDR that fit better with people like coders who want a high quality external display to go with their MacBook Pro.
Reid Nantes because you need HDR for coding, sure why not
@@JonasBorho Maybe he wants it. What does it matter to you?
@@curfewviolater Well, if we care about other people being tricked into buying this monitor and not calling Apple or Max out, then it matters.
This is the best Pro Display XDR review I have seen so far. Thank you for the awesome work!
Thank you, I've been testing the XDR for a while now, before launch, and you are smack on with your summery, Good on you. Well done.
*summary
Are you doing any HDR content Mark? I would like to see more pros uploading in HDR to RUclips. 🙂
Your videos are really something special. I love the honesty. You cut through all the bs, and just call a product for what it is. - This is by far, the best and most informative review I've seen.
At least he said jack of all trades, master of none. Which suits this monitor very well. Thing is, you could get a monitor for much less, that fits into that description.
XDR is an amazing display from a designer point if view.
XDR Design is outstanding.
When 6K doesn't mean resolution, but really means $6K 😭
Jacques well, its resolution is 6k too
well why r u crying lmao. it does have 6k
It’s 1000 per 1k😬
u are paying 1$ for each pixel
It's just 60hz...not even 4k worth it...rather 4k to 8k tv or monitor. 8k tv is too big 55inch and over. 8k cameras film or sports $5k plus. 1080i broadcast...some 4k gaming and streaming..drop fps and lag.
Can I have the link to the wallpaper from the thumbnail ?
This was a super informative and well done review. Best one I've seen.
I was today’s days old when I learned that “blooming” wasn’t my eyes being weird
my display is coming in a couple of weeks, improvement arrival time Feb 7 2020
5:32 I need that wallpaper! Can you share the link to it?
I want it too !
You can get it from this link assets.adobe.com/public/958e4bf0-a14d-41a7-7ffb-f6d4c2e7e811/b5086afb-731e-40c8-85dd-fce1a1fe43ca
Or from the description .but you have to scroll a lot since there are lots of wallpapers.
@@Abbasjawad373 But how to remove watermaker wallpape?
@@Abbasjawad373 عباس, ما عرفت احمل الصوره من هذا الموقع بدقه عاليه وبدون العالمه المائيه. المشكله حتى ما يقولك ادفع يعني ماني داري كيف احمل.
لو تعرف بالله تعلمني, وتسلم.
This is an absolutely fantastic review. Great comparisons and insights! Thanks for your hard work!
Hello MAX, where i can download this beautiful wallpaper? Thank you
I found it but its a stock photo and needs purchasing
@@ragedev tell me plz :))
assets.adobe.com/public/958e4bf0-a14d-41a7-7ffb-f6d4c2e7e811/b5086afb-731e-40c8-85dd-fce1a1fe43ca
IMO, the biggest drawback of this display is the lack of an OSD. The OSD provides a platform agnostic experience, and I do see this being the biggest reason why many people avoid it, even if they do have a bias towards the Mac platform, but do occasionally use non-bootcamp Windows. And to a certain "Ryan Rife" when he said "you're comparing it to something that is nearly 10x more expensive" (8:15) That's what Apple started by comparing it to a display that is $43k
Where's this video from? 0:33
So, I'm hoping you actually bought all this through Apple Business saving 6% or more on your purchase. It adds up w/ Mac Pro and XDR.
I would love one of these or a nice similar looking display with decent specs for around $1000-1200, but this is just too expensive.
Link to that wallpaper?
assets.adobe.com/public/958e4bf0-a14d-41a7-7ffb-f6d4c2e7e811/b5086afb-731e-40c8-85dd-fce1a1fe43ca
@max can you please test the quality of HDR movies playback from iTunes/AppleTV app on Mac?
Great review. I am very much in agreement with your take on this display. I am a Dolby certified colorist and I have color graded more than 25 feature films, tv series and this monitor is for me. Over the past year I have bought and returned two monitors from ASUS. I love what ASUS is trying to do, but so many issues and caveats. The latest unit with a built in probe, was not automatic like their video shows and still requires connection to a computer and their color tool (software) which we could only get for Mac in German language. So many other issues. We tried LG and Dell and they all fell short. The Dell at 1000 nits, which I need for HDR, looked awful in Rec 709 mode, so then you need another monitor. I cannot afford the Sony HDR reference monitor at $43,000, so I needed to find a solution and the Apple XDR monitor ended up being that solution as I already own the M2 MacPro Tower. I purchased the Nano glass to reduce reflections. The one thing I can say is that the off axis viewing is not as good as I would like. Primarily I am straight on but I do like how OLED displays in these situations.
Seriously deep dive. Well done.
What's the wallpaper on the display in the starting screen at 0:00 ?
I do not process photos or videos. I work with Forex futures markets and the like. I use technical (graphical) analysis. I often use up to 12 pairs of lines with overlapping lines (up to 24 lines). In the RGB space, when programming, I am limited to 256 brightness levels. In regular LG monitors, I see almost no difference on small lines within 220-256, and within 0-20, dark colors are almost indistinguishable from the black background, which is actually gray. I hope that a wide range of contrast and brightness will correct my situation. A billion / 256 gives a big difference between adjacent lines, as it seems to me, and a much greater effect will be given by increased contrast.
Watched this on my MacBook Air 13".
Still impressed with the MB Air.
Use mine every day too. Nice uncomplicated machine.
The M1 MacBook Air is even better.
What about the speed of the other ports when I connect a 14 inch M1 Max? Still only USB2? Doesn't it make sense to have higher speeds only on the 16 inch version. Thanks a lot
Where'd the wallpaper in the video thumbnail come from???
Hello, what are those white speakers? Could you share brand with me?
Is it worth to even get this monitor with the 7k one coming out soon? Should I just get the 5k max studio display? Is the 5k Mac Studio display 10bit ?
What‘s wallpaper for the link cover
assets.adobe.com/public/958e4bf0-a14d-41a7-7ffb-f6d4c2e7e811/b5086afb-731e-40c8-85dd-fce1a1fe43ca
it is not passive cooling it has fans built in , at those brightness levels it gets really hot mate.
The design really looks fantastic! But how about dust getting into the display due to the lattice back? How will you deal with that? One option is to clean it like every other day... 😅
Link for the speakers and the risers please!! They look so clean!
Here you go geni.us/NBGOaz
I just don't understand why other manufacturers don't have a glossy/glass display option along side their matte options on their high end monitors. I've even reached out to manufacturers requesting a custom option and paying more, but never heard back.
Because glossy/glass suck.
Nahhhh. I'll spend hours in photoshop pixel peeping and making the best single image and this is way more enjoyable to see on a glass display
@@greggoodenough5607 The glossy, "glassy", flashing look, you love so much, is being created by the glass on the screen. You need ambient light, for it to have an effect. That's the simple characteristics of glass.
So, if you sit in a very dark room, that effect will more or less disappear. You can check by sitting in front of your monitor, in your working position, when the monitor is turned off. All those reflections you will see - the mirror effect that's unavoidable, will be added to what you see on the monitor when the computer is turned on.
These reflections are unwanted, on professional monitors, so you'll never see them there, or maybe only for pro color grading monitors, where the color grader sits in a very dark room anyway. And normal people would probably not want these as well, and/or they add unnecessary costs, to the display.
If you do my test and place yourself in front of your screen for 10 minutes in daylight, with the computer turned off, and thoroughly study the reflections, you will never again be able to un-see them, when the monitor is on.
Hello, I would be interested in how big the distance is from the wall to the front of the display, i.e. if the stand is placed on the desk and is moved up to the wall, how many centimeters is it from the wall to the front of the panel?
It was Apple, who made the comparison, between a reference display and tve XDR. Its all on them.
And no, those photos with blooming aren't exaggerated. Pro testers got the same results.
What is the difference in the viewing experience of the standard glass vs. the nano textured model? Does the latter look much more matted out than the former? Is it less "dazzling"? If anyone has any info, please help.
I bought the nano glass and really like it. I don’t see any glares. I’ve heard people say the image is not as sharp but I think the image is very sharp and would pay for this again.
The point is that also the human eye with its lense and perception has a limit of contrast gradients it can still dissolve. So in most cases one can't see the blooming.
But I like stars!
can I use 3 pro display xdr with a laptop 4090 having 3 thunderbolt4 ports ?
or do i need to go for a pc biult an satisfy myself with three 5k2k displays ?
I am into trading / no gaming . need a clean setup with good resolutions like 6k on all 3 displays also connect 85inch tv with hdmi2.1
I wish on the list of Macs that it doesn’t have full resolution for, that he included the Mac mini. I don’t know how you don’t include the Mac mini with an external display.
well said , Apple being apple.
Because the Pro Stand is for professionals who are using the Pro Display XDR and won't hesitate to pay $1000 for it.
hey Max Tech where Do you download your wallpapers
Excellent video. This thing is the jack of all trades.
Very perfect indeed!
Excellent review again, txs.
it actually convinced me ordering 😀
LG 6k tb5 120hz
Have you tested the monitor with the Blackmagic eGPU Pro?
where'd you get that wallpaper ?
The Best Videos i have Seem , thank a lot
Thanks for the well-researched video. What are those white speakers? Good for Mac Pro?
I like them a lot! geni.us/NBGOaz
Can you tell me which brand your audio is？Thank you
Great review !!!...question, have you ever compared the XDR 6K to the BenQ SW 321C 4K Monitor...Thank you Max !
Can you compare XDR to Asus PA32UC? It has double the Local dimming zones so it should have less blooming, right?
PA32UCG is also 120hz with 1600 nits of peak brightness and pre HDR-1400 certified.
Very good review, thanks. Not sure that understand you right - you said 30% of what apple locks you in when doing HDR. This means 500nits (~30% from 1600) or 30 from 500 (which very low then). When then this 1600 is used? In normal use when watching HDR content only?
You heard correct. He said to lower to 30% brightness, to get rid of blooming. He also said, that would be the setting for HDR color grading.
This is simply not true! When selecting the DCI-P3 mode, the screen goes much brighter, and blooming will occur. There's no difference to what the XDR does, compared to other IPS panels. It has the dame pros and cons, as any other IPS panel, in that price range.
Good that you brought this. We in Cinema use Eizo hdr10+ monitors that cost 35000$ or 25 lakhs after tax and duty in India. Apple's XDR CAN'T EVEN get closer to color and brightness. But they had balls to compare that with high end reference monitors. But hey they're disrupting the market really good. Now LG has to down the cost with hdr ultrawides too. And Eizo will also think this around. Man but I'm still expecting you to kill this Mac pro and xdr with threadripper rig and Nvidia rtx 6000 or 8000 that costs way less. We'll I've the knowledge but the brands don't sponsor me to do this but you can man. Please try and do it.
The Threadripper CPUs are more powerful but they support only 256GB of RAM. To get upto 2TB of RAM, you need Threadripper Pro CPUs. Plus the Radeon Pro Vega II Duo blows away the Quadro RTX 8000 for lower price. It costs $5200 which is less than the $5500 that the Quadro costs.
So, long story short: this monitor is amazing for hi-end grading of commercials and shorts as long as brightness is in grading mode or at 30-ish %, correct?
It’s amazing at any brightness in normal lighting conditions but if you are working in pitch black or a very dim room it’s also amazing In any scenario at 50% brightness or below (and Apple locks you in at a dimmer amount when grading just like you should be at with any monitor) and you can even use it at 100% for most scenes or things as well (if you want to burn your retinas lol) But IF you have the brightness up and if you have very small spots that are white on a pure black background especially if it’s a sharp line or spot you can have some glowing as I showed but not as bad as many others did with inaccurately taken photos.
@@MaxTechOfficial Thank you for the clarification!
The real tipping point is destination. There really aren't that many HDR compatible delivery methods yet (especially ones that have consistent support across all, or even most HDR displays). It'd be amazing for grading HDR content intended for the web, and especially mobile viewing since iPhones & iPads + RUclips is probably the most ubiquitous method out there right now. If you want to grade for Netflix, Cable or terrestrial Broadcast, I don't think the folks you'd be working with would consider the Pro Display XDR to be an acceptable solution... At least not yet.
can't belive the new iPad can drive this display
Because the M1 iPad Pro has Thunderbolt 3
Great review as usually Max,
Is this display still Top at the end of 2021 for photo and video editing (no any HDR Video edits)
or you can recommend some other display?
Thank you in advance
Спасибо и С Наступающим Новым Годом!
How tech evolves
How small does 6k looks on 32 inches, is what i wonder!!!! if you have to scale it down to 5k or 4k to be able to see, how does it compare with other 32inches 4k displays(with similar specs) like Asus ProArt? Questions that you should answer when dropping $6k+ on a monitor.
This was an absolutely fantastic review! You covered virtually everything I wanted to hear about with one semi-exception. You show on screen the Forbes interview with Grant Petty near the end when you're saying "On the other hand, if this display can perform closer to a now $22 one [...] and programs like Davinci Resolve, for the first time ever, are confident enough to allow it to be used without the external hardware"
That IS still an *if* though isn't it? Have Apple/Black Magic/Adobe come out and said they think it's okay to relax their previous recommendation that all critical judgements be based off of a display connected to a dedicated video I/O box? I mean if you're only ever delivering HDR to RUclips, what would it matter whether it's not *quite* all there? But for folks trying to deliver to the festival circuit or other outlets, it doesn't sound like there's been much movement to embrace the PD XDR... That said, it would be super cool if Apple were to finally bridge this gap, I'm just waiting to hear from someone in the industry that they think it's actually viable... not going to hold my breath though.
where did the desktop pattern come from?
Hi, nice job! however at 10:50 there was a problem with the video and sound there
Miguel Ibaceta Looks OK to me. He was just showing a photo of a reference monitor on the desk of a pro
I want a 30" iMac 5K and 15" iPad Pro
I would LOVE a 30” iMac Pro!
@@MaxTechOfficial A higher end 30" iMac with Apple Silicon along with a new design and Space Grey color is coming later this year.
Really good video
Will this thing be any good on windows?
Yes, it supports Windows and Linux systems.
Why did it not have a keyboard??
Max, I was at the Apple flagship store here in Chicago, checking out the Pro Display XDR. Really, really disappointed the brightness was identical to my 2017 5K iMc and LG 5K display. If I understand you correctly, the Pro Display XDR will default at about 500 nits and will to get brighter unless you're working with HDR. If that's true, I have zero interest and will stick with my 5K displays, as all the XDR is for normal users is a larger 4K or 5K display.
6K didn't blow me away like I thought it would---the display just looked like the 32 inch version of the 5K iMac or LG---just a larger retina display. I can see it being useful if you work with HDR or need to edit video in 4K, but for normal users? The XDR seems to be just a larger Retina display. :(
Your exactly right. The PPI is exactly the same as the 5K they just compensated for the extra size and the brightness is also the same since I guess that’s the proper amount for SDR and they think it’s good for normal uses. As I said in the video personally I wish they let it get brighter. Check out or comparison with the 5K. 6K Pro Display XDR vs 5K LG Ultrafine - Worth $4700 More? ruclips.net/video/kLKOOFaI0gY/видео.html
@@MaxTechOfficial Yeah, this is a no go for me. Thanks for explaining it---again, I was super disappointed when I got up to the machine and realized it was basically the same as my LG 4K and 5K--just larger.
Yea I’d your not using the 10 bit colors and HDR a lot of the money spent is wasted.
I am a Trader and play games rarely ...i HAVE A ( ROG Strix Scar 18 (2023)
G834JY-N6056WS LAPTOP) with ( 1x HDMI 2.1 FRL , 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort/ power delivery / G-SYNC and 1x Thunderbolt4 support DisplayPort/ G-SYNC)
can I buy 2 pro display xdr and use it with this laptop with full resolutions ?
They shouldn’t have compared it to a reference display
Can i use the xdr display with a mac mini with a egpu?
Yes I would suggest the BM eGPU’s.
Thanks for review! But please, say the model of your speakers! :)
right here! geni.us/NBGOaz
That one film display may be for Hollywood and movies.
But looking at the price....
I can get a pretty decked out Mac Pro and 2 of Apples displays.
Or almost a Tesla truck.
But I’m still over here with $20 in my pocket so I can’t say much 🙃
Glad my computer needs are more than met by the iPad.
mic is clipping.why?
Unfortunately yes and we couldn’t reshoot. We got a new shotgun and it’s 10db more sensitive. We turned down the gain but looks like I was a bit too loud when talking.
I am still pissed that the highest resolution available for Mac users is measly 6K.
There’s only one 8k monitor that people can buy right now. It’s from Dell and all of the other specs are incomparable.
There are actually four 8K monitors, one from Dell, two from Viewsonic and one from Philips in 2021. The Pro Display XDR is one of the highest if not the highest resolution monitors on the market. 8K monitors are pretty niche even in 2021 and most pro monitors are 4K or 5K.
I don't get his logic. He says it's not overpriced by showing other monitors that are even more overpriced.
It's basically a 6k LG nano ips display with local dimming....
… your point being …?
That it brings some minor flaws like linus pointed out. But it is very cheap compared to the other high end monitors. Unfortunately no windows support...
Super helpful! :)
This product is currently in limbo in terms of what's it for. A professional reviewer dropped the hammer on this very hard and is a hard "NO" for pro use. Therefore this is much more suitable for content consumption. But it's too expensive for that soo...
Are you talking about Vincent Teoh?
How is it not OLED
Thank you 😃 thank you 😍 thank you 😍😘🥰
Like the content. A gentle reminder, though. Those WHO, not that. People WHO, not that. Anyone WHO, not that. People are who, not that. After all, the '60s band was called The WHO, not The THAT. ;-)
The constant pitching of the Micro Center is annoying. Do it at the end of the video please.
Nearest one to Northern California is in Tustin, Ca. so its useless to us up here as much of their products are for pick up only.
*Max, I appreciate your reviews and opinion immensely, and I always check you out, but I am not sure where you are going in this review ? You're doing so much equivocating that I got lost in it. For $6,000.00 USD, most professionals will expect complete accuracy here. For the amount this should be doable shouldn't it ? In Canada we're looking at $8,798.00 CAD with the Nano Textured Glass and the magnetic metal stand. This is allot of cash for a computer monitor.*
Most professional monitors are far more expensive costs tens of thousands of dollars. The Pro Display XDR is a bargain compared to other professional monitors.
The display delivers more accurate colors than professional OLED monitors. I'm gonna get one to watch movies and photo editing. Matt displays are terrible.
7:15 Most monitors use 350 nits or less, because it's not needed for normal consumption. 600 nits SDR is a total overkill.
Your videos are only in Rec.709, so you would want no more than 100-120 nits to color grade those videos of yours.
8:50 Defititely a jack of all trades, master of none, and why it's heavily overpriced.
9:30 A HDR grading monitor doesn't have to provide 1000 nits brightness, at full screen. Studies have shown, that of all HDR monies made, it's only a few percentages of the screen that lit up, in various bright scenes.
For SDR, any monitor will do, as long as the display is color accurate.
10:00 Yeah, the build quality is definetely lower on the Asus, concidering the Asus weigh more. Wait what?! Maybe it's the other way around!
The Asus is thick, because it's a sturdy monitor, meant to last, meant to get rid of heat well, meant to handle more sophisticated control.
The 2½ times less pixels is meaningless. It's a display, meant for professional work. It's not a toy, like the XDR.
10:30 "Way better materials". Like what? A display like the Asus is built up on a metal frame, encapsuled in a plastic frame. While Apple did it in one go, making the frame the bearing part as well. This is a design choice, and by design I don't mean "nice". It cuts down on complexity, but also adds cost. And yes, the XDR looks more like an office monitor, whereas the Asus looks industry. The Asus is meant to be (ab)used.
10:45 "It doens't need to look so nice and pretty". Just clarifying, that he/you was talking about the monitor chassis/frame, not the display and quality of the image.
13:35 You have no clue what you are talking about here. Any display, even the cheapest $100 displays, have several color profiles. More expensive displays have more color profiles., meant for professional work. The XDR definetely needed dedicated hardware, to be color accurate. The Apple OS cannot compensate for this. You need a clean feed to the display, and that's only possible via a breakout box, that bypasses the internal GPU in the computer.
And yeah, you could say, it gets closer, but it's not closer than any other good monitor. And you can get better displays for a lot less.
13:49 Read the article. It says hardly anything about the XDR being good enough for professional work. In fact, the article you point to, talks about the stationary Apple tower, nut the XDR.
Tempted to get the XDR to replace my old Thunderbolt display. I only do coding, so the pro features would go to waste, but the design and quality of this thing is bar none. But it's still a hard pill to swallow due to the price. If there was a lower spec 5K version of the Pro display, I would order in a heartbeat.
*If* you've got the $ there are worse things to buy. Getting up to, or staying at what Apple calls "Retina Display" resolutions (varies by size of screen and viewing distance) will have a significant impact in your speed and accuracy while reading, so imagine there could be some actual benefit even if most of what you do is staring at text all day.
Amazing
the stand is not that good, it seems that you're have not seen other stands because you did not to think to even before this
I just want to watch RUclips and surf the net on this machine
8:59 shout-out to all bulgarian people
cool!! now do drop test....
APPLE IS THE GRANNY BEST YOU SHOULD BUY IT WORTH UR MONEY, WORTH UR MONEY! GET THIS NOW!!
Price= Two kidneys..😂
The Mac Pro 2019 and Pro Display XDR are for real professionals doing tasks like 8K video editing, audio composition or extreme 3D rendering.
Blah , blah , blah, blah , blah as always about nothing! Where is the color Gamut Test , screen uniformity test and other tests that are a must for any professional monitor? 6k means nothing since we don’t even have Consumer 6k Video cameras on the market yet!
$1000-$1200 professional monitors by Asus, Benq and Dell are the best 4K monitors and perfectly enough for most users.
I am going to launch my own company against apple and name will be half watermelon 🍉
i would definitely going with two color correct monitors like eizo instead of one of these, because macos with mac display and color sync isnt the perfect solution for grading. so instad of 6000 dollars for this display i would go with a decklink card and two color correction monitors, same price.
And an absolutely cluttered desk.
OK rich dude.
60Hz? No way.