I would say that Erin helped her out constructing the wall Titans, but they were already in place. So instead I imagine Erin and Ymir having some quality bonding time building his skeletal Titan
It's more than 3 million it is 3 million for the colossal titans Karl friz used to build the walls 100 years ago she waited waaaayyy longer for Eren in the paths being a slave to the royal family
She spent way more time, seeing how she takes great care molding them, she also has to build giant slopes to reach the taller portions of the titans, plus mistakes she makes can cost her a good chunk of time.
Notice how Ymir also had to sculp scaffolding out of the clay/sand for every Colossal Titan, too. Unless she uses the same scaffolding (which it doesn't look like she does given that many colossals are visualized in the same frame together), that would add a lot more time
It would be really cool if you could figure out how long it took her to make Eren's founding titan form. I find it kinda sad how Eren finally got Ymir to make her own choice and she still had to spend forever building him a new body
imagine how awkward it would be Ymir decides she wants to help Eren instead of Zeke Zeke: YMIR NOO I'M A ROYAL BLOOD OBEY ME Zeke and Eren waits awkwardly for Ymir to finish building Eren's founding titan body
The fact that the smaller titans are so much lighter than expected may also explain how some of them are able to move so goddam fast for things of their size.
It’s too explain how they can even stand and walk in the first place if a human existed that was that big and weighed the same as a human of that size it wouldn’t even be able to stand let alone run
Basically, not even death could give her a break, 300.000+ years by the wall alone, consider everytime she stopped to form another titan body for the transformed Eldians or the multiple bodies of the titan shifters.
I like to think that those times in the earlier story arcs in season 1 when Eren was only half transformed was just Ymir giving up and giving Eren the bare minimum for a titan form lol
Eren: You are finally free! Ymir: Yay! Eren: So... can you do one more thing for me? Ymir: Sure thing fam. Eren: Can you make an uber titan for me? Ymir: ... Eren: I want it to be 350 meters tall by 650 meters long! Ymir: 👁👄👁 Eren: Thanks fam!
To be fair though, It wasn’t Eren’s choice. It was that spine like creature, Since Eren’s main body was gone, It needed one, So it created one. Even if it was a joke, I can’t resist correcting it. Also I’m bad at explaining.
By the way there is an explaination for eren's eight pack, titan shifters can regenerate so any damage during training that would be devastating for a normal human is repared, there for they can train as much as they want whenever they want and lift as much as they can without permenantly demaging their spine or tearing a muscle.
8 packs are more so due to the genetics of how your connective tissue separates the ab muscles into a 6 or 8 pack. We can see this in bodybuilders who, even though are really muscular and shredded, only have a 6 packs instead of 8 packs. I don't think Eren got an 8 pack from his training and titan shifter regeneration because bodybuilders, jacked up on PEDs, don't have 8 packs.
2000 year is just a mere time for outside perspective Zeke said he waited for so many years for Eren to arrived at the point that his Nails and Hair got so long outside it was a split second considering if he waited 50 years for Eren and Went through Grisha memories too for what 30 more years trip damn! Ymir must have suffered a lot XD
Funny you say that!! The first method i tried to solve this topic included the growth in zeke's hair, what i mean is i tried to determine the amount of time it took ymir to build eren's body in the path by estimating the increase in length of zeke's hair. but i scraped it all because the final answer was something crazy like about 18 billion years to build all the colossal titans
@@eloquit9489 by that calculation. ymir has lived for atleast lived 2 sexstillion years. which is alot of time. to remain concious for that long would be impossible.
@@N3c777 wait idk if this is right but if Ymir lived for 2 sextillion years and it took only 3.6 million years to build the colossals and if we say Ymir started building as soon as she arrived in the paths and still was at the time eren and zeke arrived THEN 2 sextillion divided by 3.6 million = 5.5555556e+14 (i used a calculator bc im dumb) SO THAT MEANS YMIR BUILDS ONE COLLOSSAL EVERY 5.5555556e+14 YEARS
@@Cool_ICE69 Idk man all I did was used the 18 billion years in .5 seconds(it could've been alot less then that but we don't know) and and then multiplied 62 million( half seconds in a year) x2000 (number of years). our universe will only last for 5 more billion years so i don't know what kind of shit ymir has been smoking
Now I'm curious of an even more unfeasible calculation: how long would it have taken Ymir to build Eren's new Founding Titan form? I feel like a way it could be calculated, at least the mass/volume of the Founding Titan, would be to utilize a Blender 3D model since people have made those in the past. I have no experience messing around with Blender or other programs, but I'd bet there's some way to use 3D models to figure the volume of the bony Eldritch horror
Given that when Eren's titan transformed, we saw that weird spine-like thing coming out from his head, the same thing that touched Ymir when she became the founder, I think it can be assumed that Ymir didn't build either of those titans. Like, imagine if Ymir had to go into the paths every time she wanted to transform, so she could spend years building herself a titan. She'd be so mentally taxed after every transformation. Plus going into the paths to rebuild every piece that's damaged every time someone harms her titan. Seems like a shitload of mental labor. So I'm assuming that whenever that spine-y thing appears and a titan is created, it wasn't ymir. That would also explain why both her first titan and eren's founding titan looked so freaky
@@unorthodoxpickle7014 possibly, but then again that assumes that Ymir herself was able to go back in time inside the paths, so it assumes that she can (from the paths) create titans in the past and possibly future. We know that time behaves differently in the paths, but from all we know, the attack titan is the only titan that can go back to and influence the past. Do we know if the founding titan holds those powers as well? Idk, it's up to debate. Edit: but I'd assume that because the titan powers weren't originally Ymir's, but rather came from that weird thing inside the tree, maybe it can also create titans just like Ymir.
@@runtergerutscht4401 I am going to assume that practically all titans ever made was ymir using that parasyte to create those bodies, and what happened here is that again, only now with her actively aiding eren, and not just sculpting the body And due to the fucked up shape of eren's body due to the decapitation, she had to work with was availeble
@@runtergerutscht4401 i don't think Ymir build that titan, but it was the origin of the power itself built it, otherwise it would have been pointless for Eren to tell Ymir to stop being a slave and then proceed neartly 100 years building Eren's bony titan. That being said, I like the idea that Ymir only build the titan form, and leave it as such without having rebuilding it every time it is damaged, I think the origin of life does that job for her. With the exception of Zeke for being from the royal bloodline, she was able to regenerate him because she was still a slave to the family.
King: "make me a million colossal titans Ymir so i can turn them into walls" Ymir: "k" * 3.7 million years later * Ymir: "dude i think i bit more than i can chew... is half a million good enough?" King: "wow that was fast, hmm yeah this should be enough thanks Ymir" Ymir: "cant wait to murder everyone with em" King: "what?" Ymir: "nothing."
Just was recommended your colossal titan video and you got yourself a new subscriber :) One thing I'd like to mention in regard to this video: The humans in AoT are quite strong when compared to reality. Them even being able to move and land with the odm gear puts them about the strengh of the best professional weightlifters. This is consistent with them being able to cut durable titans with just their swords. So it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that Reiner is able to lift more than would seem reasonable for a real person.
in some infomation card on season 1 (i don't remeber the episode you can searsh for it if you think im lying) they said that the trainers in climbing training they cut the climbing rope ON PURPOSE to test the reaction of the soliders so if they do that im sure that those dudes have a terfying training to they reach that level also a small note reiner is a warior so im sure inherting a strength titan like the armored titan means that this man can lift anything
there is a tale during one of those short information screens that happen in between scenes about a guy that tried digging a hole under the wall, but he stopped after stumbling upon feet (the story told us that he basically did some research on it but the state took it away from him). but this story also tells us that the wall titans are slightly buried up until their shins/ankles, that’s why they might seem shorter than berthold’s colossal titan, for example
I've been thinking about this for a while and it just makes ymir's story even sadder even sadder, ymir wasn't waiting for 2,000 years, she was waiting for far longer
No it took that long to make the walls (which would be 3.5 days from an outside perspective). 2000 years for her is between 15 and 30 Quadrillion years if the math in this vid is right.
@@remus4283 Ironically that would mean 3.6 Millions years were nothing for her. Not only that but at that point she was likely bored beyond sanity, so it should have keep her busy rather than being grindy.
@@tocatooquick1389 Bruh thats a lot of work,imagine having to build hundreds of thousands of titans for years but in real time it just happened in an instant, Ymir really went through hell
People are talking about Erens founding Titan form but I think the at Ymir completely bypassed having to build that because it looks as if the Parasyte/God or whatever it is directly grew out of Eren’s body which we don’t see with any other Titan
Hangs said that a severed titan limb is as light as tree bark. So I think she meant once removed from the body it’s lighter. Cause we can see titans fall and make the amount of force as you think it would.
Pro strongwomen regularly have to yoke close to 300kg for 20m in about 20s. Reiner isn‘t a pro strongman and he doesn’t have any access to steroids. So I‘d say 220kg is a more reasonable estimation. Also the titans are only light upon death. If the titans were actually as light as tree bark, the beast titan’s foot steps wouldn’t be as loud as they are, the armoured titan wouldn’t be able to crash through the walls and the colossal titans wouldn’t leave imprints on the ground. But when plugging in the numbers, your 100kg estimation actually checks in. 3m/1,85m=1,62 The Titan is 1,62x taller than Reiner (1,62^3*95)*0,24=97kg
there were 2 reasons why i assumed the 3 meter titan to be 100 kgs, first because Reiner was able to lift and climb up the stairs with the titan on his back and the second because the titans might not be as light as tree bark but they aren't as heavy as a human of titans proportion else there movements would be very sluggish. Also i cant remember where i heard it but titan are much stronger then they physically should be able to. for example the first time eren plugged the wall using a bolder, it should not have been possible even for a human that was 15 meter tall and much heavier then eren's attack titan
@@eloquit9489, being lbs for lbs stronger doesn’t necessarily make them lighter but it would make sense for them to be lighter. They probably are less dense than us. Also consider the ease with that the colossal titans are swimming. If they were heavier than water, they would sink.
But it was said they are lighter than they should be. If they were as heavy as you say, they probably wouldn’t be able to support their own mass and just collapse
@@maksklinec I know, 800,000 kgs is a lot even for the colossus titans. they won't be able to support their own weight but here's the thing if I assumed them to be any lighter, then the smaller titan would correspondingly be even lighter, actually too light. for example lets assume the colossus titans to be about 200,000 kgs ( About the same weight of the heaviest blue whale ever recorded) the 3 meter titan should be about 25 kgs. which is absurd
i hope math teachers are taking note of any in class gossip and if applicable, use the hype around the series to ask questions like this and make it interesting
3.6 million years? So since the titan's history takes place 2000 years back, and the paths aren't bounded with time dimansion, she probably felr 2000 years as MILLIONS of years? Jeez that's shit dude
Ymir for me probably has the saddest existence. Even after death she built newly made Titans, titan shifter's bodies, Titans made by the founding titan etc. for many millions of years in the paths.
02:46 eloquit : if there is any other topic you want me to make video on. I will take up your offer than. Why ymir [historia's friend] go to Marley. She should know that she is going there to be eaten. What make her choose reiner/marley over historia ? Based on her letter to historia "i regret not marrying you" doesn't that mean ymir see historia as her lover ? If so why not use the rest of her time protecting the wall and historia ?
Considering that all titans in the walls may have shifted at the same time, and using the Warhammer Titan transformation as reference, which takes 12s in realtime, each second in real life would take 300.000 years inside the paths. So, if Ymir waited 2000 years, outside the paths, she actually waited way more, like... 1.892.160.000.000.000.000.000 years. And this number is more than 135 BILLION times the age of the universe itself.
That volume estimate seems small. If we substituted in a cylinder of height 60 meters, take a volume of 3333 m3, that cylinder would have radius 4.2 m. So that volume might be underestimating.
@@jordankellogs7203 Actually it's the opposite. Dividing a mass by a small density should result in a severe overestimation of volume. Hmm...though a healthy human male has a waist circumference roughly 1/2 their height...so it would have a 30m waist, divided by 2 pi to get 4.8 m radius. So maybe the number was reasonable. I'm just not imagining things right and it actually is about 10 meters wide, 6 meters thick.
great calculations, but just wondering. How long would it take for the rumbling to destroy the earth. I'll explain with my own calculations, so the earth is 510 million sq km in surface area. Wall titans move at a speed of a horse (48km/h). to calculate we do 48km/h x 573,084 = 27,508,032sq km. that's the distance all the titans combined take to cover the earth in an hour. then we multiply 27,508,032sq km x 24 hours = 660,192,768 sq km. That's more distance than the entire earth earth has, meaning the wall titans will probably take around a day or less to destroy the entire earth. Btw I hope this was helpful eloquit.😁😆😇😇
Doesn’t work like that. You’re saying each Titan is side by side 1 km apart in a line (because the combined distance traveled is the speed by the amount of titans which is true, but distance traveled does not mean sqkm covered. (Think about it line this. 10x10 group of people in a square walking forward at 6 km/ hr. They do not cover 600 square kilometers, they cover 6 km by the width kf 10 people within that hour.
@@itsrealmonkey well uh that's right I forgot to multiply the width of the wall titans, 12.6 metres which means I gotta multiply 660,192,768 sq km by 0.012 km which would = 7,922,313km sq in a day Forgot that sorry
@@jamesperrott1 no I forgot to add the width of the distance for the wall titans 0.012 to multiply 660 million sq km, that equals to 7.6 million sq km in a day from all of the wall titans walking together at a horse pace
Assuming these calculations are correct and that it takes a second or 2 for the colossal to materialize, 2000 years to us is over 30 QUADRILLION YEARS to her. In other words, for her, it's been all most 10,000x longer than our universe has existed.
That's great and all, but those wall titans that Ymir build are 50 meters tall an not 60. Only the titan shifters are 60 meters tall, the wall versions are 50.
Iirc they are as tall as a normal colossal titan, it's just that their feet are buried 10 meters into the ground. It's something that I heard some time ago, so I might be wrong.
How long has Ymir been a Slave in the Paths? Thats a good video idea! Or if you want a short and easy one, How long were Zeke and Eren in the Paths after Eren got his head shot off?
Millions of years, possibly billions but that's a low chance she literally created 10 millions of wall titan plus everytime a titan shifter transform she would have to build a new one for them.
you should do a video about how many days or months it would take for the rumbling to destroy the world after theres only half a million titans in the wall
Spoilers for the end of the series, if you're an anime-only. Considering Eren was able to wipe out 80% of all life outside the walls over the course of a few days, I'd say it would take him five full days to complete the Rumbling. Maybe a week.
Well, I don't think the Titans are actually light, Hange concluded that by picking a severed arm. To me it doesn't make sense for Titans to be light, as they wouldn't be able to generate such momentum or have such loud footsteps.
I think she was referring to density. This may be Isayama's way of getting around the cubed law. Whereby after scaling most organisms past a certain size, they can no longer support their own weight and collapse. So Isayama got around this by making titans less dense than humans relative to size
This is pretty much the conclusion I have come to. I think it only seems long to Zeke and Eren because they are still bound to mortal bodies where as Ymir exists solely within this other realm. Think about how when you fall asleep, you do not experience the actual time you are sleeping. From your brain's perspective you are back awake almost instantly even after 8 hours. Time is just a concept. BTW, if I'm wrong about any of this it's because I'm anime only so no manga spoilers please.
It's still fun to think about. It takes Bertholt about a second to materialize the colossal. If we also account for the wall material encasing each titan, let's say that 1 second in our world is 12 years in coordinate land. If we assume the calculations in the video are accurate, at that rate it would take 3.5 days for the walls to form from our perspective. That's crazier than the hyperbolic time chamber in DBZ where 1 year in there is a day outside. In Ymir's world 0.83 seconds to us is a year to her.
and you've gotta think that more than likely, these Titans were all formed at roughly the same time to create the walls. So for what Humanity seemed like just a few minutes at best took Ymir millions of years.
1:42 Assuming the volume is 3,333.33 m^3, then wouldn't that convert into 3,333,330 kg? I think you missed a digit ("." is used to indicate decimal numbers and "," to separate three digits for readability)
this also makes sense because time in ymir's "realm" goes by very differently compared to the normal world in AOT. the entire interaction between Eren and Zeke, which i'd guess takes about 2 hours if we think generous, they do watch a multitude of memories for a while. all while in the real world maybe only 2-3 seconds passed.
Well don't forget that time passes differently in the paths dimension. Zeke said that a lot of time passed there before Eren met up with him there after what seemed like seconds after he was shot. Meaning that there's a bunch of timey, mumbo jumbo magic at work lol
Sad fact: Ymir still can't fast-forward through all that labor. Whether time "exists" or not is irrelevant to the fact she still had to move all that matter from place to place.
the wall titans are 50m while the colossal titan shifter is 60m which is why it can look over the walls. a little change to the calculation but overall great video! :)
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Man, Ymir was on one hell of a grind.
Ymir represents manga readers waiting a new chapter to release
Her mind was basically on auto-pilot until Eren shows up and wakes her tf up
Is it just me who thinks her story is sad?
@@adfains8046 yes.
I would say that Erin helped her out constructing the wall Titans, but they were already in place. So instead I imagine Erin and Ymir having some quality bonding time building his skeletal Titan
Eren: "You have waited 2000 years for someone."
Ymir: "Wtf no that shit was like 3 million get me tf outta here."
just imagine if ymir actually said that ifront of him💀💀
It's more than 3 million it is 3 million for the colossal titans Karl friz used to build the walls 100 years ago she waited waaaayyy longer for Eren in the paths being a slave to the royal family
Ymir: Yeah, and your little triple transformation stunt in Marley cost me another 20,000 years. Fuck you.
2000 world years*
@@vsGoliath96 LMFAO WHAT- THIS IS SO FUNNY
Ymir did all this and I cant even study for 3 minutes straight
It's not really as if she had a choice lol. What would you do if you were trapped in an endless void where time is meaningless?
@@sonicraft9996 i sure as hell wouldn't spend 3 million years creating titans for people who didn't give a shit about me
@@garydorsey4243 Cant argue with that
@@garydorsey4243 I'd at least be turning some of them into 60 metre tall benises lol
Ymir on that sigma grindset 💪🏻
She spent way more time, seeing how she takes great care molding them, she also has to build giant slopes to reach the taller portions of the titans, plus mistakes she makes can cost her a good chunk of time.
After doing this for millions of years, you would expect ymir to have developed a better system for this or at the very least to be buffed as fuck
@@UnholyRenton Ymir being buff would be so funny to see ngl
@@UnholyRenton ymir probably doesn't get any protein for muscle growth rip
@@UnholyRenton Built like a Jojo character
uhm no. have you seen some of the pure titans? she made those freaks, too.
As powerful and as talented as ymir was, she could have benefitted a lot from ctrl-c ctrl-v
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King Fritz: for my final order mold the titans
Ymir: ok *ctrl+v ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+c ctrl+v ctrl+c*
She only gotta press control + c then just spam control + v
@@anfalse vvvv
Notice how Ymir also had to sculp scaffolding out of the clay/sand for every Colossal Titan, too. Unless she uses the same scaffolding (which it doesn't look like she does given that many colossals are visualized in the same frame together), that would add a lot more time
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It would be really cool if you could figure out how long it took her to make Eren's founding titan form. I find it kinda sad how Eren finally got Ymir to make her own choice and she still had to spend forever building him a new body
i think that wasnt ymir, but the hallucigenia
She didn't make it for him, it was the worm that basically took over his body
imagine how awkward it would be
Ymir decides she wants to help Eren instead of Zeke
Zeke: YMIR NOO I'M A ROYAL BLOOD OBEY ME
Zeke and Eren waits awkwardly for Ymir to finish building Eren's founding titan body
@@Kirbster-D-Shroom ye thats what i meant
@@nomarukaz they were kicked from the paths immediately after so ymir probably started building his titan once they got put back into the real world
The fact that the smaller titans are so much lighter than expected may also explain how some of them are able to move so goddam fast for things of their size.
It’s too explain how they can even stand and walk in the first place if a human existed that was that big and weighed the same as a human of that size it wouldn’t even be able to stand let alone run
square cube law
helps with the suspension of disbelief a bit
and it also makes sense then that the claw jump on rooftops and the cart can climb on them too no problem
Remember that scene when reiner lifted a titan on his back then threw him
@@austoosodrippy1864 A human that big would be able to stand , walk and run just fine. But one fall and most bones would break.
This does also not include the scafolding or the times she fell and lost the water, she really was there for a while lol
Adds like another 100,000 years
I must admit that Ymir's a pretty good designer.
She created over 300,000 colossal titan face designs and they're all terrifying.
Respect.
Basically, not even death could give her a break, 300.000+ years by the wall alone, consider everytime she stopped to form another titan body for the transformed Eldians or the multiple bodies of the titan shifters.
I like to think that those times in the earlier story arcs in season 1 when Eren was only half transformed was just Ymir giving up and giving Eren the bare minimum for a titan form lol
Eren: You are finally free!
Ymir: Yay!
Eren: So... can you do one more thing for me?
Ymir: Sure thing fam.
Eren: Can you make an uber titan for me?
Ymir: ...
Eren: I want it to be 350 meters tall by 650 meters long!
Ymir: 👁👄👁
Eren: Thanks fam!
To be fair though, It wasn’t Eren’s choice. It was that spine like creature, Since Eren’s main body was gone, It needed one, So it created one.
Even if it was a joke, I can’t resist correcting it. Also I’m bad at explaining.
Ymir didn't make that titan, it was the hallucigenia
@@leonardomagnus6762 Ayooo finally a person who can bother spelling it
By the way there is an explaination for eren's eight pack, titan shifters can regenerate so any damage during training that would be devastating for a normal human is repared, there for they can train as much as they want whenever they want and lift as much as they can without permenantly demaging their spine or tearing a muscle.
Armin gained muscles as soon as he became a Titan so I think that the Power of the Titans just optimises their body
@@user-yt9ek2xh6i actually he got his beautiful abs from military training, we just never saw it because he never go bare chested
8 packs are more so due to the genetics of how your connective tissue separates the ab muscles into a 6 or 8 pack. We can see this in bodybuilders who, even though are really muscular and shredded, only have a 6 packs instead of 8 packs. I don't think Eren got an 8 pack from his training and titan shifter regeneration because bodybuilders, jacked up on PEDs, don't have 8 packs.
8 packs aren't because you trained. It becomes 8 because that's how your muscles are abnormally shaped compared to the normal 6
@@fukaze2021 bare chest Armin in the Titan transformation scene, but I don't remember any time before
2000 year is just a mere time for outside perspective Zeke said he waited for so many years for Eren to arrived at the point that his Nails and Hair got so long outside it was a split second considering if he waited 50 years for Eren and Went through Grisha memories too for what 30 more years trip damn! Ymir must have suffered a lot XD
Funny you say that!! The first method i tried to solve this topic included the growth in zeke's hair, what i mean is i tried to determine the amount of time it took ymir to build eren's body in the path by estimating the increase in length of zeke's hair. but i scraped it all because the final answer was something crazy like about 18 billion years to build all the colossal titans
@@eloquit9489 by that calculation. ymir has lived for atleast lived 2 sexstillion years. which is alot of time. to remain concious for that long would be impossible.
@@N3c777 yes. sexstillion.
@@N3c777 wait idk if this is right but if Ymir lived for 2 sextillion years and it took only 3.6 million years to build the colossals and if we say Ymir started building as soon as she arrived in the paths and still was at the time eren and zeke arrived THEN 2 sextillion divided by 3.6 million = 5.5555556e+14 (i used a calculator bc im dumb) SO THAT MEANS YMIR BUILDS ONE COLLOSSAL EVERY 5.5555556e+14 YEARS
@@Cool_ICE69 Idk man all I did was used the 18 billion years in .5 seconds(it could've been alot less then that but we don't know) and and then multiplied 62 million( half seconds in a year) x2000 (number of years). our universe will only last for 5 more billion years so i don't know what kind of shit ymir has been smoking
in her dimension she had an endless amount of time, in the real world it’d be instantaneous.
But she didn’t have time to finish erens titans?
@@formodius no if paths was endless then she would still be in king fritz era i hope u understand
Eren: It’s been 2,000 years…
Ymir: Bitch I’ve waited over 3 million years for this moment
Awesome bro! Keep grinding. This is some quality content
Thank you 🔥
Now I'm curious of an even more unfeasible calculation: how long would it have taken Ymir to build Eren's new Founding Titan form?
I feel like a way it could be calculated, at least the mass/volume of the Founding Titan, would be to utilize a Blender 3D model since people have made those in the past. I have no experience messing around with Blender or other programs, but I'd bet there's some way to use 3D models to figure the volume of the bony Eldritch horror
Given that when Eren's titan transformed, we saw that weird spine-like thing coming out from his head, the same thing that touched Ymir when she became the founder, I think it can be assumed that Ymir didn't build either of those titans. Like, imagine if Ymir had to go into the paths every time she wanted to transform, so she could spend years building herself a titan. She'd be so mentally taxed after every transformation. Plus going into the paths to rebuild every piece that's damaged every time someone harms her titan. Seems like a shitload of mental labor.
So I'm assuming that whenever that spine-y thing appears and a titan is created, it wasn't ymir. That would also explain why both her first titan and eren's founding titan looked so freaky
@@runtergerutscht4401 because of how paths are, what if ymir made her own titan after she died as we've seen paths transcend time, idk
@@unorthodoxpickle7014 possibly, but then again that assumes that Ymir herself was able to go back in time inside the paths, so it assumes that she can (from the paths) create titans in the past and possibly future. We know that time behaves differently in the paths, but from all we know, the attack titan is the only titan that can go back to and influence the past. Do we know if the founding titan holds those powers as well?
Idk, it's up to debate.
Edit: but I'd assume that because the titan powers weren't originally Ymir's, but rather came from that weird thing inside the tree, maybe it can also create titans just like Ymir.
@@runtergerutscht4401 I am going to assume that practically all titans ever made was ymir using that parasyte to create those bodies, and what happened here is that again, only now with her actively aiding eren, and not just sculpting the body
And due to the fucked up shape of eren's body due to the decapitation, she had to work with was availeble
@@runtergerutscht4401 i don't think Ymir build that titan, but it was the origin of the power itself built it, otherwise it would have been pointless for Eren to tell Ymir to stop being a slave and then proceed neartly 100 years building Eren's bony titan.
That being said, I like the idea that Ymir only build the titan form, and leave it as such without having rebuilding it every time it is damaged, I think the origin of life does that job for her.
With the exception of Zeke for being from the royal bloodline, she was able to regenerate him because she was still a slave to the family.
King: "make me a million colossal titans Ymir so i can turn them into walls"
Ymir: "k"
* 3.7 million years later *
Ymir: "dude i think i bit more than i can chew... is half a million good enough?"
King: "wow that was fast, hmm yeah this should be enough thanks Ymir"
Ymir: "cant wait to murder everyone with em"
King: "what?"
Ymir: "nothing."
To give you all a bone chilling scale: that’s like getting 99 runecrafting 270,000 times. Ymir was truly a tortured soul.
Just was recommended your colossal titan video and you got yourself a new subscriber :)
One thing I'd like to mention in regard to this video: The humans in AoT are quite strong when compared to reality. Them even being able to move and land with the odm gear puts them about the strengh of the best professional weightlifters. This is consistent with them being able to cut durable titans with just their swords. So it wouldn't be unreasonable to assume that Reiner is able to lift more than would seem reasonable for a real person.
Thanks for the information ❤ i would surely keep that in mind if i have to calculate something related to their strength in the future
in some infomation card on season 1 (i don't remeber the episode you can searsh for it if you think im lying) they said that the trainers in climbing training they cut the climbing rope ON PURPOSE to test the reaction of the soliders so if they do that im sure that those dudes have a terfying training to they reach that level also a small note reiner is a warior so im sure inherting a strength titan like the armored titan means that this man can lift anything
But the wall titans are 50m tall.
The colossal titan is 60m.
He was able to look over the walls.
And it was written in the guide book 😅
there is a tale during one of those short information screens that happen in between scenes about a guy that tried digging a hole under the wall, but he stopped after stumbling upon feet (the story told us that he basically did some research on it but the state took it away from him). but this story also tells us that the wall titans are slightly buried up until their shins/ankles, that’s why they might seem shorter than berthold’s colossal titan, for example
@@FlyLikeAirplaneKnows wow, never knew that! Nice info 😚
Ymir just realized she was a slave for 3.6 million years and though "WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK AM I DOING THE KING DIED SO LONG AGO"
Reiner was 95 kg before the timeskip. He lost 12kg down to 83kg during the 4 year time skip as a result of depression and not eating
I've been thinking about this for a while and it just makes ymir's story even sadder even sadder, ymir wasn't waiting for 2,000 years, she was waiting for far longer
Ymir so hardworking she worked for 3.6 million years in 2000 years damn
No it took that long to make the walls (which would be 3.5 days from an outside perspective). 2000 years for her is between 15 and 30 Quadrillion years if the math in this vid is right.
Time moves alot slower in the dimension
@@remus4283 Ironically that would mean 3.6 Millions years were nothing for her.
Not only that but at that point she was likely bored beyond sanity, so it should have keep her busy rather than being grindy.
Out of topic question: Does Ymir have to make a titan EVERY time a titan shifter becomes one, or she only has to do it once?
She makes a new one, that’s why they are all individual to the person in design.
@@puttputt524 he meant everytime they shift into their titan form, is it a new one that looks the same each time he meant
She makes it everytime,even the regeneration
@@zooweezybw8131 Bro that's some hellish time right there, I would just build one big ass titan for example as big as godzilla earth and call it a day
@@tocatooquick1389 Bruh thats a lot of work,imagine having to build hundreds of thousands of titans for years but in real time it just happened in an instant, Ymir really went through hell
People are talking about Erens founding Titan form but I think the at Ymir completely bypassed having to build that because it looks as if the Parasyte/God or whatever it is directly grew out of Eren’s body which we don’t see with any other Titan
Hangs said that a severed titan limb is as light as tree bark. So I think she meant once removed from the body it’s lighter. Cause we can see titans fall and make the amount of force as you think it would.
Pro strongwomen regularly have to yoke close to 300kg for 20m in about 20s. Reiner isn‘t a pro strongman and he doesn’t have any access to steroids. So I‘d say 220kg is a more reasonable estimation.
Also the titans are only light upon death. If the titans were actually as light as tree bark, the beast titan’s foot steps wouldn’t be as loud as they are, the armoured titan wouldn’t be able to crash through the walls and the colossal titans wouldn’t leave imprints on the ground.
But when plugging in the numbers, your 100kg estimation actually checks in.
3m/1,85m=1,62 The Titan is 1,62x taller than Reiner
(1,62^3*95)*0,24=97kg
there were 2 reasons why i assumed the 3 meter titan to be 100 kgs, first because Reiner was able to lift and climb up the stairs with the titan on his back and the second because the titans might not be as light as tree bark but they aren't as heavy as a human of titans proportion else there movements would be very sluggish. Also i cant remember where i heard it but titan are much stronger then they physically should be able to. for example the first time eren plugged the wall using a bolder, it should not have been possible even for a human that was 15 meter tall and much heavier then eren's attack titan
@@eloquit9489, being lbs for lbs stronger doesn’t necessarily make them lighter but it would make sense for them to be lighter. They probably are less dense than us. Also consider the ease with that the colossal titans are swimming. If they were heavier than water, they would sink.
But it was said they are lighter than they should be. If they were as heavy as you say, they probably wouldn’t be able to support their own mass and just collapse
@@maksklinec I know, 800,000 kgs is a lot even for the colossus titans. they won't be able to support their own weight but here's the thing if I assumed them to be any lighter, then the smaller titan would correspondingly be even lighter, actually too light. for example lets assume the colossus titans to be about 200,000 kgs ( About the same weight of the heaviest blue whale ever recorded) the 3 meter titan should be about 25 kgs. which is absurd
@@maksklinec, this is a fictional universe.In regards to the size and weight of the titans, we should suspend our disbelief.
Zeke: screams
Paths: You have 30 new titan orders pending
i hope math teachers are taking note of any in class gossip and if applicable, use the hype around the series to ask questions like this and make it interesting
"Hi it's Ymir again welcome to my Minecraft let's play and today we're gonna build thousands of titans"
This is definitely some kind of Hell. Doing this for eternity.
3.6 million years? So since the titan's history takes place 2000 years back, and the paths aren't bounded with time dimansion, she probably felr 2000 years as MILLIONS of years? Jeez that's shit dude
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Ymir for me probably has the saddest existence. Even after death she built newly made Titans, titan shifter's bodies, Titans made by the founding titan etc. for many millions of years in the paths.
Poor Ymir. I just wanted to slap that bucket out of her hand and tell her to take a break :(
Ymir making the Runecrafting grind on Old School Runescape look like nothing.
She really be on that sigma grindset
I love your commitment to this. Thanks a lot
You should love Ymir’s commitment.
Glad you enjoy it!
@@eloquit9489 Keep on doin' it bro
02:46 eloquit : if there is any other topic you want me to make video on.
I will take up your offer than.
Why ymir [historia's friend] go to Marley.
She should know that she is going there to be eaten.
What make her choose reiner/marley over historia ?
Based on her letter to historia "i regret not marrying you" doesn't that mean ymir see historia as her lover ?
If so why not use the rest of her time protecting the wall and historia ?
Oh I like this channel already. Cheers lad.
Thank you so much 🔥
We got game theory,film theory and food theory now we got anime theory/science
Honestly dude your attention to the anime is pretty accurate this is the best gueststimstion
Title:How Long Did It Take Ymir To Build All The Colossal Titans?
Me: 2000 years.
Very nice video man.
She didn’t get bored of making all of them because she just put it to 1000000x speed
I always equated it to the work surgeons do. They work on you for hours, but for you, anesthesia was as quick as a pin drop.
Considering that all titans in the walls may have shifted at the same time, and using the Warhammer Titan transformation as reference, which takes 12s in realtime, each second in real life would take 300.000 years inside the paths.
So, if Ymir waited 2000 years, outside the paths, she actually waited way more, like... 1.892.160.000.000.000.000.000 years. And this number is more than 135 BILLION times the age of the universe itself.
Yo this was a really cool vid keep it up. I really enjoyed this
Glad you enjoyed
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That volume estimate seems small. If we substituted in a cylinder of height 60 meters, take a volume of 3333 m3, that cylinder would have radius 4.2 m. So that volume might be underestimating.
That's maybe bc the titans are lense dense than water
@@jordankellogs7203 Actually it's the opposite. Dividing a mass by a small density should result in a severe overestimation of volume.
Hmm...though a healthy human male has a waist circumference roughly 1/2 their height...so it would have a 30m waist, divided by 2 pi to get 4.8 m radius.
So maybe the number was reasonable. I'm just not imagining things right and it actually is about 10 meters wide, 6 meters thick.
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0:43 finally, an anime character who actually weighs enough for his age and hieght.
great calculations, but just wondering. How long would it take for the rumbling to destroy the earth. I'll explain with my own calculations, so the earth is 510 million sq km in surface area. Wall titans move at a speed of a horse (48km/h). to calculate we do 48km/h x 573,084 = 27,508,032sq km. that's the distance all the titans combined take to cover the earth in an hour. then we multiply 27,508,032sq km x 24 hours = 660,192,768 sq km. That's more distance than the entire earth earth has, meaning the wall titans will probably take around a day or less to destroy the entire earth.
Btw I hope this was helpful eloquit.😁😆😇😇
Doesn’t work like that. You’re saying each Titan is side by side 1 km apart in a line (because the combined distance traveled is the speed by the amount of titans which is true, but distance traveled does not mean sqkm covered. (Think about it line this. 10x10 group of people in a square walking forward at 6 km/ hr. They do not cover 600 square kilometers, they cover 6 km by the width kf 10 people within that hour.
@@itsrealmonkey well uh that's right I forgot to multiply the width of the wall titans, 12.6 metres which means I gotta multiply 660,192,768 sq km by 0.012 km which would = 7,922,313km sq in a day Forgot that sorry
You just said something moving at the speed of a horse could get round the planet in less than a day and thought that was correct
@@jamesperrott1 wat
@@jamesperrott1 no I forgot to add the width of the distance for the wall titans 0.012 to multiply 660 million sq km, that equals to 7.6 million sq km in a day from all of the wall titans walking together at a horse pace
next: what is the time scale between real world and the path
Pretty much none it doesn't really need to be stated
Practically instant, in real time between when Zeke caught Eren's head and Eren transformed it took only about a second for the lightning to strike.
Assuming these calculations are correct and that it takes a second or 2 for the colossal to materialize, 2000 years to us is over 30 QUADRILLION YEARS to her. In other words, for her, it's been all most 10,000x longer than our universe has existed.
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That's great and all, but those wall titans that Ymir build are 50 meters tall an not 60. Only the titan shifters are 60 meters tall, the wall versions are 50.
Iirc they are as tall as a normal colossal titan, it's just that their feet are buried 10 meters into the ground. It's something that I heard some time ago, so I might be wrong.
@@doublekey8931 that's correct
How long has Ymir been a Slave in the Paths? Thats a good video idea! Or if you want a short and easy one, How long were Zeke and Eren in the Paths after Eren got his head shot off?
Millions of years, possibly billions but that's a low chance
she literally created 10 millions of wall titan plus everytime a titan shifter transform she would have to build a new one for them.
Ah, yes, the absolute unit of measurement, the Eren Yeager.
you should do a video about how many days or months it would take for the rumbling to destroy the world after theres only half a million titans in the wall
Spoilers for the end of the series, if you're an anime-only.
Considering Eren was able to wipe out 80% of all life outside the walls over the course of a few days, I'd say it would take him five full days to complete the Rumbling. Maybe a week.
Other than destroying planets and torture atrociously, it will rain Ymir who worked for millennia
Well, I don't think the Titans are actually light, Hange concluded that by picking a severed arm. To me it doesn't make sense for Titans to be light, as they wouldn't be able to generate such momentum or have such loud footsteps.
Human proportions for a titan wouldn't make sense as the bones couldn't support that much, thier anatomy has to be different which mighy explain it
@@Rensje1989_ I thought about that too, but even if I mentioned it then nothing would make sense
The footsteps can be explained by the surface area of the titans feet compressing and displacing a large area of air between the ground and feet.
I think she was referring to density. This may be Isayama's way of getting around the cubed law. Whereby after scaling most organisms past a certain size, they can no longer support their own weight and collapse. So Isayama got around this by making titans less dense than humans relative to size
@@Steelface97 even so, the ground wouldn't shake
You should do a video about what Bertholdt/armins nuke transformation is comparable to.
The answer is that times doesn't matter since time doesn't work in the paths realm
This is pretty much the conclusion I have come to. I think it only seems long to Zeke and Eren because they are still bound to mortal bodies where as Ymir exists solely within this other realm.
Think about how when you fall asleep, you do not experience the actual time you are sleeping. From your brain's perspective you are back awake almost instantly even after 8 hours. Time is just a concept.
BTW, if I'm wrong about any of this it's because I'm anime only so no manga spoilers please.
It's still fun to think about. It takes Bertholt about a second to materialize the colossal. If we also account for the wall material encasing each titan, let's say that 1 second in our world is 12 years in coordinate land. If we assume the calculations in the video are accurate, at that rate it would take 3.5 days for the walls to form from our perspective. That's crazier than the hyperbolic time chamber in DBZ where 1 year in there is a day outside. In Ymir's world 0.83 seconds to us is a year to her.
Yeah Reiner!!! Lift heavy bro!!💪🏽😎
Just kinda wondering who made Ymir's own titan if she's the one making the titans?
Worm
That's a good question for real.
She may be created her titans after her death
and you've gotta think that more than likely, these Titans were all formed at roughly the same time to create the walls. So for what Humanity seemed like just a few minutes at best took Ymir millions of years.
Take that time and add it onto the fact that every time someone turns into a titan for the first time ymir has to sculpt their titan body
imagine spending 3.6 million years building 60 meter humanoids alone, just for them to be fucking walls
"Yes mom i'm studying"
Me:
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MAN! I felt so sorry for ymir but poor girl...
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Every kid playing sand castle on the beach can learn so much from Ymir....
**titan shifter loses half their body**
ymir: ah shit, here we go again
Ymir spent so much time building the titans, it needed two anime studios.
It took Ymir 3.6 million years for Ymir to build the wall titans but for Karl when he roar it just quick for him to summon titans in real world.
1:42 Assuming the volume is 3,333.33 m^3, then wouldn't that convert into 3,333,330 kg? I think you missed a digit ("." is used to indicate decimal numbers and "," to separate three digits for readability)
the wall titans are 50m lol he got it all wrong... collosal are 60m
@@jlgaming9997 no. wall titans are 60 but their feet are buried into the ground
this also makes sense because time in ymir's "realm" goes by very differently compared to the normal world in AOT. the entire interaction between Eren and Zeke, which i'd guess takes about 2 hours if we think generous, they do watch a multitude of memories for a while. all while in the real world maybe only 2-3 seconds passed.
Well don't forget that time passes differently in the paths dimension. Zeke said that a lot of time passed there before Eren met up with him there after what seemed like seconds after he was shot. Meaning that there's a bunch of timey, mumbo jumbo magic at work lol
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I’m watching this on a weekend, and I’m triggered from the math
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So she spent probably more like 5 million years constructing every single titan that ever existed.
Hooooo boy
Fun fact: time isnt a thing in ymir's dimension
Sad fact: Ymir still can't fast-forward through all that labor. Whether time "exists" or not is irrelevant to the fact she still had to move all that matter from place to place.
@@SomeRUclipsTraveler but ymir doesnt have any brains so tis fine ig
When you imagine how She builded All transformation bodies fixing it All Titans for us it was only half 2 seconds for her whole year
this man is the smartest person i know
Mind blowing how all that is an instant on the material plain🤯🥵
Now that's the power of blind love
I like how you used a rather flirtatious pic of Eren for the 9,756 Eren Jeager stat.
You should expand this to other fantasy series etc. I see alot of potential here. Haven't done this sort of math since HS.
the wall titans are 50m while the colossal titan shifter is 60m which is why it can look over the walls. a little change to the calculation but overall great video! :)
You might as well calculate how long it takes Sisyphus to roll his boulder to the top of the hill...
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nice going man!
Amazing video
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Ymir got creative enabled
Showed this to my geometry teacher and was amazed
i thought ab this when i saw this ep that’s crazy