The STUPIDLY GOOD MOLOTOV BASE that DOMINATES HORDES! | The Fire Pit Zombie Horde Base for Alpha 20!
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With the NEW ALPHA 20 UPDATE, it's time to see if the BEST HORDE BASE in 7 DAYS TO DIE is still up to par! This base design has handled everything thrown at it before, even DAY 7000 HORDES with ease! But with a raft of new blocks and pathing options, is the KILLING CORRIDOR still the SIMPLEST and EASIEST base in the game?
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0:00 How to break the Zombie AI
2:02 Building the Pit
4:01 Building the Foundation
6:41 Trapping the Zombie Hordes
8:10 How to drop the Zombies into the Pit
11:48 Zombie Forcefield Access Bridge
12:58 Molotov Chute
16:35 Killing a WHOLE HORDE with ONE MOLOTOV
18:20 Upgrading the Central Base
23:33 Mistakes to Avoid
25:33 How many Zombies can ONE MOLOTOV kill?
30:12 Zombie Cop Protection
31:30 Horde Night Test
33:05 New Zombie Proof Entryway
33:54 BIG HORDE BATTLE
37:30 Results and Final Thoughts
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Still working fine in 20.1 update
Sorry in advance if they nerf molotovs!
@@lordkin-kong8888 was thinking the same thing
No worries, let 'em nerf them! Then we'll just use pipe bombs and bullets! GG Josh, love it!
Fun tip, a molotov can chain react to other molotovs so you can leave them in small slopes and throw a molotov to set em off.
I find it funny that they fixed the zombies ignoring ladders if there is one missing from the top, but... they still ignore it if you put an open circle block up there... They're really good for making bomb drop thing
Hey Josh, something you may want to do a Woodle Park video on, is the zombie proof walls. The old wedges still don't work, however, the Wedge Narrow blocks do. They take 4 blocks to make a full stack, but only takes I block space, just 4 high. They are too steep for the muppets to get up,n they dont seem to inclined to attack them either, but a player can hop over them with a few jumps. I tested this out today and it works like a charm.
They really need to add a favourites page to the shapes menu and let you fav and unfav blocks- can be a pain in the ass to keep finding blocks you use a lot.
They do it's at the top left of your block menu in game.
@@munkandbear2818 No they dont thats called basic blocks or something and is just a set list of a few blocks they think we might want a lot right? Unless they added it in the newest patch- or im insane- i will check later.
Yer pretty sure there is favourites button now.
@@neilbright5346 It's not much a faves as it is a "recently used" tab.
Hey Josh, something you may want to do a Woodle Park video on, is the zombie proof walls. The old wedges still don't work, however, the Wedge Narrow blocks do. They take 4 blocks to make a full stack, but only takes I block space, just 4 high. They are too steep for the muppets to get up,n they dont seem to inclined to attack them either, but a player can hop over them with a few jumps. I tested this out today and it works like a charm.
Awesome! Thanks for the info. I miss the the old Alpha 18 wedges.
@@GunChronicles I'm going to have to hop on and check that out! I haven't played much since a19 released. I always ran a mp game with my friends where we decided if we were using cheese or not, with harsh zombie increases if we used cheese, and a solo game for myself that i never ran cheese bases. Doing both at the same time created so much diversity in game play,, and the cheese made for a lot of fun moments. Fun pimps really made it difficult to play how I wanted to play, so hopefully these blocks bring half of my fun back
@@alexr8120 Yeah the devs really need to stop trying to limit how people play the game. If people want to use cheese then just let them if that is how they find the game to be fun. Just let the cheese factor be optional.
I sooo want to see a cylindrical version of this!
Put a single ladder in the hole... it saves lives
The Nerf Pimps should just hire you as CEO, considering how they run their business around stopping your exploits.
Josh is the reason this game will never make it to full release. The pimps spend far too much time trying to counter his workarounds
So as a possible improvement for throwing a molotov down the pit. Can you place a single ladder from either the ceiling or in the pit itself to hang on so you can look down in a straight line rather than an angle that might nip the edge?
Yes this. Ladder in the chute and stand on it. Being in the chute will help keep you from accidentally falling in
I had the same idea, should hold up the hatch, you and let molotov's get thrown with ease.
Yes. That will work. I've used that setup in a base before. I left a two by two hole in the floor and placed four ladders in the hole. That allowed me to be suspended above the pit below my base.
another method could be a pillar hanging from the ceiling to stop you from falling down. i havent testet it just theorising just now. it should be thick enouth to hinder you fall and thin enouth to allow the molotov to be thown down. if it works like that, it should be idiot proof.
I don't think it's you with the molotov problem. I do the same thing. It's almost random it seems on whether it collides with the block in front of you.
But, that's extremely satisfying ti see a full group just lay down in defeat like that. Well done mate.
In tight spaces like what he has built, the roof height will get you. You need a full block between your head and the roof if I remember correctly when I tested it.
It appears he has atleast a block above but less when he's standing on the hatch 🤷♂️
The issue is he doesn't take throw drop into effect. The actual trajectory is slightly below the crosshair.
Molotovs can be funny, I was stood behind 3 other people, on top of a block looking over them. Tried to throw a molly over their heads, yeah nah set fire to all four of us!
Which arrow slit blocks is he using?
Josh, I love seeing you building/testing horde bases...it's super entertaining. You have to try a horde base where you can get the zombies to all crouch into an area, it's hilarious watching them crawl.
Stick a ladder in the bomb chute. If you fall, the ladder will save you.
And I think the molotov model, when thrown, falls the same way no matter how or where you throw it, so throwing it from some directions is better because the model is less likely to nick the edges.
But I miss how we used to be able to drop them from inventory, perfect angle straight down every time.
Yes this. On top of saving him it will give him a better "throw straight down" vantage point
Idea: Seeing how they tend to bunch up in the corridor before dropping down - I think it would be better if you've made 2 more corridors on either sides of the platform so that they have more access points and won't pile up on top of each other as much. Since the end goal is to have them downstairs ready to be set ablaze and not fight them directly - there's no real reason why you shouldn't have more access points. Also having smooth corners on the outside tend to make it easier for them to path around them.
or just build the floaty bit on even surface without a drop or pit. disconnected ramp for player access and it should work the exact same, with less pathing issues.
JaWoodle: This is how you set up your molotov chute. Start with the circle block 6 blocks from the left edge and 5 blocks down here 24:12 .... Place one inside the hole with the circle 'up'. Place a second one circle 'down' on top of the first.. On top of that circle block place the block 4 blocks from the left edge and 5 blocks down when you were on this screen 20:27 . It looks like a pillar .5 with a round cap on top. To suit your needs, the cap goes up, the pole goes down (honestly I think that any center pillar .5 will work here). You will be able to crouch down and almost fall into the hole, but the pole + the circle thing on the ground prevents you from falling in. I hope that made sense. You probably should also switch the walls below your standing surface to half-blocks as well. It will look the same from the outside, but give you more room to get the molly down.
Love a Woodle park ep
I would suggest expanding the base column to 4x4. It would give you a bigger 2x2 shaft to drop molotovs down, 50% more plates to hold everything up, and let you make the drop corridor your normal width. Also, if you put the force field all the way around, it might provide enough structural stability to survive the loss of all the plates.
Thats a great idea because the cellar doors are 2x2 and would make a fine substitute for the 1x1 shutters
It's not just you, it's the moltov. Tactical Desticles builds bases with the intent of will it stand showing a day 7 day 49 and a day 7000 horde. He recently went back to an old design to try to add improvements, and was throwing moltovs off a ledge to a pit, and still singed his short and curlies.
@jawoodle is a dev QA nightmare and a dev QA dream at the same time. Great stuff!
you could add a block at head height to stop from falling in. or instead of a 3x3 make a 3x5 with the middle 1x3 blocks removed so you would have plenty of space to for throwables to be aimed.
Some suggestions.
One, You don't need to make a pit at all for this design to work more or less completely fine. Just building the foating base with a pit seems to work great, especially given that the cross supports were not able to hold up the base if all of the plates on bottom were destroyed anyways. So you can just build this out in the open and not have to dig so much
Two, If you build the gap 2 by 2 or 3 by 3 wide even, You get to have much easier time throwing the molotovs, and you have a wider area of support on the ground so it's less likely for the zombies to destroy them all. The zombies seem to pick a corner of the "Pillar" to try to attack, but you can easily just angle your throw to hit them all the same.
That base should be called "The Oven" lol Awesome video mate!
i noticed if you stand on one corner of the shute. Put the crosshair on the bottom of the opposing corner, your molies go all the way to the bottom. no self burning.
Amazing base!! It's like the evolution of the Eclipse base.
And love that the Molotovs are a danger to both the zombies and Josh. Never change!
Woodle + molitovs = a fiery blown up Muppetry good time
Josh, have you thought of just building a bunch of campfires down there and turning them on for horde night? No molotovs needed, just lots of wood. Then you can simply sit back and watch them burn, baby burn!
Love this, great base. Only two things I would change:
1. Add a forcefield spine like the one you already have to either of the two sides left and right. That should give this build enough support so it won't collapse when the center pillar gets taken out.
2. Widen the shoot for the molis. Maybe 2x2 with a cellar door or even 3x3. Just wide enough to reliably be able to not bin the throw half of time xD
Never apologize for a long video! I think i speak for the whole Woodle community when i say "We want long videos!" Feature length everyday would be ok with me!
I think one of the biggest take-aways from this is actually the upgrade you came up with for the killing-corridor entrance. They aren't getting stuck at all now, not even for a moment. That's damn rad actually!
JaWoodle, can you please make a video explaining how you use the various building tools at your disposal to make your builds. Coming from a 7D2D nube lime myself who has a hard time following deciphering how everything works. (Maybe like a controls video?)
Merch idea, "Burn your foes to warm your toes" t-shirts, mugs, everything. Looking forward to my 10%! Also, how about showing the structural integrity shot where it shows the calculations. Might show any potential week spots for re engineering. Love seeing Woodle Park again, bonza mate!
You should have made the center with bullet resistant glass I believe it's clearer this update and you can see then beneath you
Make your platform slightly wider and us a small roller door for the drop-chute so there's a larger hole to drop the Molotovs into.
I have just ran a day 21 horde through this base and it's by far my favorite one I've built. Took nearly 5 in game days to build. I have a lot of zombies attacking my force field which is annoying but overall works like a charm!
@Walking Jedd Gaming I'm all about cheese and cheese related options in this game. Give me a force field. Back in the day I loved building zombie proof walls. The cheesier the better!
10:33pm in ontario watching your absolute jem of a video then off to bed thanks josh for the content appreciate the work u put in dude :)
I like short videos but the way you are presenting these I don't mind the long video. We get to see what kind of problems and possible solutions for them. I'm so going to try this.
Hey Josh, you just need to put a single piece of ladder in the hole, so you are totally safe of falling down if you go a little bit to far while throwing your mollies down the pit ;).
Don't feel bad about setting yourself on fire Josh. The hit-box for the new shutters is jacked when it comes to using the Molotov's. I was using the new shutters in my base and quickly ditched them for the old iron hatch due to the same problem you just encountered.
I loved this, its so funny to see so many zombies getting wasted by one cocktail! Nice one Josh another world winning base design!
The fun Pimps should really have you on the payroll. Your basically testing their game for weaknesses.
You should place one of those round hole blocks underneath the trap door. you should still be able to stand directly over it without falling in, but if you crouch on top of it, you should be able to very easily drop a molly in!
Perfect use for that block!
Outstanding editing and as always clever design!!!!! Thanks josh for always providing quality work!
Oh man, I am so using this! Me and my mate just started a new playthrough. What if you just put a ladder in the hole? You wouldn't fall in and could actually step right into the center and let the Molly fly...
Yes this. Ladder in the hole lets you stand over it
I'm playing around with this concept and ended up making the hole bigger with some "cube sewer barrel" shapes and "window top round plates" under them instead of square plates. With a ladder at the top makes the hole more like a sticky pit with no falling.
Should work well with a 2x2 hole- but with jus a 1 block chute you could not put the ladder going down more than 1 or 2 blocks- if it was in all the way down im not sure you could throw the moly past it- or not reliably? And while that should work fine with just 1,2, ladder blocks at top, just be careful not to move slightly too far down and fall off.
Sadly I didn't try it with the 1 block hole but it might work. My first thought was to make the hole bigger and round then found the ladder to keep me up top.
I can see the update now: Zombies can now float over pits and move through walls.
Koala Sanctuary... I've got no words man, that is just hilarious!
It just occurred to me that if the force field was more filled in rather than just leaving a bunch of empty space you might have enough SI to hold up the center even without the pillar in the center.
Just a side note for you Josh. Be sure to check out the revamped wood windows for this alpha. They are actually clear now and not all smeared with dirt and smudges like they were in previous alphas.
I'd have at least three of the four sides using the wedge drops, force field on one side, and that should keep the zombies from piling up too much on the outside -- they'll gather in the center faster. I'd change out the one block hole for a cylinder hole (or a 2x2 square hole) to avoid hitting the sides. You should be able to place sliding doors on all sides to protect you from view without breaking their pathing.
Idea for the wedge drop + arrow slits: what if you extended the middle block with arrow slits so you could still cross? The zombies should still run off the sides like you want. That way, you could have all four sides built the same way, and never worry about them bunching up. Heck, in a pinch, you could still use upside down hatches to get across the middle if the arrow slots didn't work.
Scratch all that, just forget the pit entirely, lol. Just levitate a tower with the chute, and save yourself hours.
holy shit, I love this, i'm so building this! keep up the good work man, love your vids!
Great idea for a base! ha When I first stared playing and couldn't get through horde night I came here to learn and it's nice to get some new ideas!
Nice build, maybe add 2 more of those arrow slot blocks on the 3 sides could help support the thing if the bottom does break.
Something I discovered making this base, if you start off from wood frames the dropper corridor will collapse itself on the cobble upgrade, I even upgraded the bottom blocks first.
Edit after thinking more about it it could be the stability glitch if that's still a think in b238, cause spanning 6 blocks with wood frames is 1 block before collapse
Where the Center Plate is you have Red on the bottom, take it out and put a Campfire there with enough wood to burn threw out night.
As always fun and informational ! Ty sir
You could also line the outside of the main pillar with plates and use a pole that's the same width as the plates to provide the gap, to add more support
This is sick mate. I love the idea of a fire chute!! Thanks Josh for the video mate.
Ahh yes, the fire pit - accurate description of summer ;)
if you solidly connected the base all the way around with the zombie force field except for the zombie drop, then you wouldn't even have to build the pillar down and there wouldn't be the long chute to aim perfectly down, just a 1 or 1/2 block thick floor in the fighting position. Might need one or two blocks going down just to give the zombies the legs to attack but put them beneath where you are gonna be standing and no worries. Nice base design
This is great! Could you please do a video on improving the Molotov hole? So that you can avoid setting yourself on fire?
Placing a ladder INSIDE the molotov chute at the top will prevent you from falling and allow you to stand directly above it and throw straight down with no problem. ;-)
Hey Josh, you may try to put a ladder in the shoot to prevent you from accidentally fall in it though you may also use this to enter or exit the pit, then maybe use a 1/2 wide cube to widen the the opening for a more successful molotov throw.
Josh has a problem getting it in the hole...lol I love you dude..XD
Best out of context quote: "I might need to reconsider how this hole works."
I'm pretty sure this would work if you chuck the molotov at them as they are running into the pit because it only takes one to be on fire and the ones around it are going to burn too.
Also maybe if you build a half block ledge to the side of the trapdoor so you can stand on it and get a better angle to throw down would help?
Maybe you can put some ladders in the hatch as a safety mechanic and a way to get up and down for loot.
If you build the column from wedge tips at the bottom then you should have less likelyhood of your molotov colliding early with a block. I think that's why you are burning yourself when the molly sprite collides with the block sprite. Also if you aim at the center of the red block it should be less likely to have an inadvertent collision.
so for an odd number across use a pillar 50
17:55 thats just beautiful
Good job Josh, love it☺
Excellent idea. Maybe try it with Arches to give yourself a large circle. Less chance of burning yourself to death. Also, you could try the floating blocks as anchor around your pit that hold the base up. You wouldn't worry about the bottom at all getting destroyed. It would be more resources, but it could create an afk synergy if done well.
Love it man. Giving me ideas on how to defend
Watching all those Arlene die in unison was absolute Eye Kandy!
Simple fix...use pipe bombs or make a 1x2 hole so you have a bit more leeway to "miss" with the molotov toss.
I have to say, I like the actual "Let's Play" episodes better... But these are quite fun too. And you come up with some pretty awesome ideas! This is an amazing base. And I think that you could bring the pit in one block all around, and it might still support the base inside if the plate blocks underneath get destroyed. Something to play around with and see what works best. But all in all, amazing base design! Just add a ladder in the middle so you don't fall in but you can be in the middle when you throw a molly. Always love the muppetry!
There might be some alternative blocks to use to throw the molotov through and decrease the likelihood of you falling through it yourself.
I've only done a little bit of testing and that's kinda it, but hopefully, it could be helpful.
Cube 1m hole: You can stand on this block's corners and still be throwing down some molotov. You can still fall through this block but should be safer than without it. Getting the molotov through shouldn't be more difficult.
Pole Double Top: It seems to work decently without any issues. It's a U-shaped pole block without any issues to stand on it and throw down a molotov.
Catwalk V1 Rail Only: Not the best block for this but it is impossible to fall through it so I feel it's worth mentioning. If you position yourself right you should be able to throw a molotov through. Might need some practice though.
There were a few other blocks but none that I felt were worth mentioning.
Hope you don't mind me writing a little long comment, but I hope this could be to help! :)
Would building your "bomb chute" like a funnel work better? Giving you a larger opening at the top to throw the molotovs down so they don't burn you?
If you do the force field all the way around it should be stable enough that you don't even need the center pillar holding the base up.
Pretty sure an easy fix for them destroying the pillar would be to drop down say two blocks into the pit on 3 sides and add arrow slits 2 wide . Just anchor the sides onto a full block under the dirt.
Eh Josh, you should check out the Dome Pillar Caps... You can make floating balls that are off set from the center of a square so zombies jump to the wrong space ...
I built a copy of this base to try out with a horde & when I wasn't setting myself on fire, I fell into the hole & crowd surfed on the zombies till I finally died. I even did 10 test throws before the horde started & only managed to get 4 through. The pimps apparently don't want this in their game.
Honestly, most things in your vids can be described as weirdly satisfying. lol
The roof above your head is the issue with the molotov setting you on fire. Raise the roof height 1 block and test again. I've run into the same issue before
Comment for the Muppet King to beat the algorithm
I read on the forum that the developers have made changes to the arrow slits. Possibly in A20.1 stable the zombie force field will no longer work.
Omg this so OP and gonna give TFP sleepless nights
Taper the Molotov shaft to make the shaft wider at the bottom.
Bloody marvellous.
I am pretty sure that there is a Fireman's Book that results in fire weapons burning 10% longer
I have to try this one 👌
Alright, Josh. Looks fun to try mate
Hey great video thanks veryuch for addressing spider zombies
nice idea, but i dont think, that you need the plates at the bottom. you could hold the whole thing above with arrow slits from each side. maybe decrease the size of the site of the pit by 2 or 3 blocks
I did something similar with my horse base.. I put two hatches in front of each other that open in opposite directions..that way, when opened, it gives me a two block gap to throw molotovs.
"Burrrrrrn baby burn, Da-da daaaaaaa!".
your base builds are my favourite content. maybe a spoke out each side would hold it up?
Could you add a retractable floor like the volcano base? Then you could melee if you wanted when the doors were closed. Maybe add hatches to close.
*fell trough the hole in attempt to throw molotov
*makes himself on fire 3 times with molotov
*manages to throw a single molotov in the said hole
*burns all the arliene zombies at once
*hysterical laugh
"-maaan, i've got this game by da baallzzz"
me:
dying from laugh
I saw a FlameThrower being listed in the game files, if that gets added this base would be the ultimate zombie roast.
I love this one.
Might be tricky with aiming, but instead of the trapdoor that you can fall down (see video)(lol) maybe try the cross shaped arrow slits with spikes just in the corners?
Hey guys, you know it's funny these guys go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good, they wake up the next day and they're on fire.
Great vid, love the length, but why didn't you try some of the new circular blocks?
if you flip the shutters, then the shutters open inward and you don't need the surface support to place them.