Classical Composer Reacts to On the Silent Wings of Freedom (Yes) | The Daily Doug (Episode 190)

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  • @mhlevy
    @mhlevy 3 года назад +140

    Another really fantastic song from that album is "Onward." Unlike most Yes songs, it's short, and was written by Chris Squire. The recording of this song was the opening song on the first Yes tour after Chris had died, with a screen showing images of Chris over the years, and a spotlight on a lonely Rickenbacker bass on a stand. It was really heartbreaking, but a wonderful tribute.

    • @JohnLRice
      @JohnLRice 3 года назад +10

      Onward is my favorite on the album, and the only song on the album I really love and come back to listen to occasionally.

    • @rsm3t
      @rsm3t 3 года назад +2

      I love that song!

    • @randyhammill9021
      @randyhammill9021 3 года назад +5

      Great song that my wife and I used for our first dance at our wedding. The album was out of print at the time, but the DJ insisted on finding their own copy.

    • @jameswattles7341
      @jameswattles7341 3 года назад +2

      Many good songs but Onward wow just special

    • @lon5541
      @lon5541 3 года назад +1

      A truly beautiful song, my wife and I picked this as our first song to dance to on our wedding day. Still together 27 years later!

  • @doughorton3635
    @doughorton3635 3 года назад +69

    For another amazing Yes/Chris Squire bass song, check out "Heart of the Sunrise" on Fragile. Highly recommended.

    • @nbt3663
      @nbt3663 3 года назад +5

      Such a great song and adventure that is!

    • @johnsatella1286
      @johnsatella1286 3 года назад +5

      Better yet....check out the bass on tempus fugit from the drama album

    • @k1llerrabit
      @k1llerrabit 3 года назад +6

      Agreed Heart of the Sunrise is an exceptional and special piece

    • @yezman68
      @yezman68 3 года назад +1

      On some Yes tours the opening part of this tune was part of the Chris Squire/Alan White bass/drum solo. Fantastic stuff. Check out the DVD 'Yes Live at Montreux from 2003.

    • @sandrocastanero3759
      @sandrocastanero3759 3 года назад +1

      @@johnsatella1286 in tempus fugit its more impressive, but in Heart Of The Sunrise It marks the Melody allí the time, most impressive

  • @ezioauditore3128
    @ezioauditore3128 2 года назад +9

    Saw them at Wembley, London in October 1978 and it's still the best gig I've witnessed. The audio is on YT and the quality is excellent. The whole concert (this song was in the set list) showcases a band at the height of their live powers. Set aside a couple of hours and listen to it.

  • @cobbycaputo3332
    @cobbycaputo3332 3 года назад +8

    Honestly the intro is the best part of this song. And I say that as a lifelong Yes fan. Seeing them on the tour for this album was my first ever concert.

  • @mrsouthjersey4956
    @mrsouthjersey4956 2 года назад +8

    I wasn't crazy about this album when it first came out. But it has grown on me since it's release way back in my youth.
    Starting with the, "Tormato" tour. The first for Yes doing their,
    "In the Round" tours that would be their "forte" in the upcoming years.
    Simply a brilliant tour in my opinion, they sounded soooo darn good live during it.

    • @nightcross1030
      @nightcross1030 Месяц назад

      The tinny snyth sound makes it sound its age in a way most Yes albums don't

  • @toddbrady8540
    @toddbrady8540 3 года назад +24

    This album got a lot of criticism when it came out, I love it, Esp Release Release👍❤️

  • @jimbarlow9541
    @jimbarlow9541 3 года назад +48

    I would strongly recommend Turn of the Century from Going for the One. Lyrically and musically the most beautiful song they ever composed imo.

    • @benmolnar
      @benmolnar 3 года назад +2

      A Fantastic Song!!!

    • @Humb7757
      @Humb7757 2 года назад +3

      With Going for the One, which was a return from Rick wake man to the band since Tales….
      They had simply inspiring reunion that gave them the Magic of producing one of the most emotional album
      They made it perfectly! They achieved’The One!’

    • @mikik3827
      @mikik3827 2 года назад +2

      I can't agree more. Turn of Century was with my wife and me when we kissed for the first time 43 years ago. The best song Yes ever produced!

    • @nickavenoso7851
      @nickavenoso7851 2 года назад +1

      Turn of the Century and Onward are two of the most beautiful Yes songs I’ve heard. Love both of them!

    • @marinhrabric6162
      @marinhrabric6162 2 года назад

      Every other song on that album is better

  • @nigelbentonakauapoap3691
    @nigelbentonakauapoap3691 3 года назад +94

    Just to clarify on the album title... "The original album title was to be Yes Tor, referring to a geological formation in southern England. The photographs taken by Hipgnosis for the album cover were seen as so unimpressive that Rick Wakeman, in frustration, threw a tomato at the pictures. The cover and title were adjusted accordingly." Hilarious! 👍

    • @soggytom
      @soggytom 3 года назад +13

      That explains the topographic (get it?) maps on the inner sleeve!

    • @paulehney4581
      @paulehney4581 3 года назад +12

      The Yes Tor was noted on those maps on the sleeve.

    • @lesliemiller9634
      @lesliemiller9634 3 года назад +4

      LOL !!!!!

    • @lisagulick4144
      @lisagulick4144 3 года назад +4

      @@paulehney4581 "On a clear day, from the top, you can see faraway places with strange-sounding names."

    • @simonal1989
      @simonal1989 3 года назад +3

      Here's the kicker though... It wasn't Rick!

  • @williamsporing1500
    @williamsporing1500 2 года назад +10

    Chris had all kinds of stuff on his bass….envelope, chorus and who knows what else. He was brilliant……

  • @everlastingarms3065
    @everlastingarms3065 3 года назад +8

    The one off Tormato to do is "Release Release". Would love to have a version where you're honing in on each instrument individually in that one. The interplay between the Squire & White in that is unbelievable. Please give it a listen! Awesome channel, just discovered it.

  • @planktonrecords
    @planktonrecords 3 года назад +19

    Would love to see you reaction to ‘Shadow of the Heirophant’ by Steve Hackett (guitarist in Genesis 1971-77) from his first solo album ‘Voyage of the Acolyte’ which was released in 1975 while he was still in Genesis

  • @patricknicolucci5073
    @patricknicolucci5073 3 года назад +31

    Chris Squire was my favorite bass player most creative in my opinion of all time. his main instrument was a 1964 RM1999 (4001S In USA) Rickebacker bass his model was mono but was wired for stereo sent signals from either pickup with or without effects. but his sound comes from his magic fingers!

    • @u3uu3u
      @u3uu3u 3 года назад +4

      He also rolled off the bass and boosted the mid and treble.

    • @NGC6144
      @NGC6144 3 года назад +5

      Squire stated his main Ric had been shaved down many times by a luthier during periodic maintenance; He had adorned it with wallpaper and stickers on it from time to time. So, his Ric eventually sounded a bit different from the stock models by having so much wood shaved off of it. His sound has a lot to do with low string action among other things. It gives it a bit of rattle that is initially mistaken for distortion while driving his amp high that does ad a bit of grittiness. I tried emulating his sound for years and never could get close. In listening to his isolated bass tracks I finally realized it was largely the low action and string rattle.

    • @mikehersh9798
      @mikehersh9798 3 года назад +5

      Chris used a pick and almost simultaneously plucked the strings he was picking-a unique and challenging style that created a unique and unequaled sound. See: ruclips.net/video/cprcYnffK_o/видео.html

    • @johnnicholson8345
      @johnnicholson8345 3 года назад +2

      @@u3uu3u not the case at all. I could give you exact specifics directly from Chris himself. There's much less Treble on his volume and tone knob than you would expect.

    • @johnnicholson8345
      @johnnicholson8345 3 года назад +3

      @@NGC6144 I have the 4001CS and while not the same as his I have pretty much dialed in his sound with the Ric growl and fret buzz. It's taken years but I am finally there. We aren't doing as many Yes tunes these days live (Long Distance, Roundabout and Yours is no) but at one point or another I believe I've covered roughly 20 Yes songs in my bands from High school to present. (CTTE, &U&I, Siberian, Astral, Survival, Time & A word, Yours, Southside, Roundabout, LDR, Release release, Heart of the, Changes, Does it really happen, Your Move, All good people, America, Wonderous Stories, Don't Kill The Whale, and pieces of a few others.....

  • @KhordLizardMage
    @KhordLizardMage 3 года назад +37

    Siberian Khatru should be done soon. It is an older song, but it is one of my favorites. The bass and keys REALLY drive that one.

    • @malawigw
      @malawigw 3 года назад +3

      live from yessongs 1975, perfection

    • @frankfusco3647
      @frankfusco3647 3 года назад +1

      I second this... I've been waiting for Doug to do SK. He always notices Squire's bass lines... and that's an awesome one, and also one of my faves.

    • @musicminute2004
      @musicminute2004 Год назад +1

      He alredy did

  • @kintronico
    @kintronico 3 года назад +85

    You need to listen to " Fish out of Water" the only Chris Squire solo album.

    • @soggytom
      @soggytom 3 года назад +7

      My God, yes! 'Safe' should be one of your Friday long-format listens. You think Squire's bass work here is amazing? Try 'Safe'!

    • @rogerhennie8939
      @rogerhennie8939 3 года назад +5

      Lucky Seven!!

    • @davep8221
      @davep8221 3 года назад +3

      Almost not entirely off topic, but only recently I heard of something he did with Steve Hackett called Squacket. Spelling not guaranteed.

    • @markearll3940
      @markearll3940 3 года назад +2

      @@davep8221 Squackett, two t's! Not a bad album

    • @markearll3940
      @markearll3940 3 года назад +1

      In a similar vein the band "GTR" which was a Howe/Hackett collaboration..

  • @wideawakeinotown
    @wideawakeinotown 3 года назад +16

    what's always amazing about these guys is they could actually make this song sound even better live

  • @copernichrisrush5082
    @copernichrisrush5082 3 года назад +6

    One of my favorite YES songs and album. The whole album is fantastic! Please do more...

  • @darrenjones5885
    @darrenjones5885 3 года назад +27

    I’ve not listened to Tormato in decades. Madrigal is the only track I could recall from the album, with Rick Wakeman playing harpsichord. It was being heard playing harpsichord while he was a student at the Royal College Of Music that was to lead to him having lunch with the Queen Mother. If you search for Rick Wakeman buys a horse from the Queen Mother you can hear him tell the story.

    • @newpinglegend9304
      @newpinglegend9304 3 года назад +3

      Good one. Pretty nice classical guitar on that too.

  • @Lightmane
    @Lightmane 3 года назад +13

    Doug, your constructive criticism of this is excellent. This is a very good album, but not 'quite' up to the amazing music that we were used to. I liked this album plenty when it came out, and still do, but I wasn't blown away by it like I was with their previous 6, but it's still very good. I actually enjoyed the sudden ending and I believe if you listen to it again, by yourself, you'll enjoy it too. Squire's bass is pretty unreal though, isn't it 🙂

  • @jillespina
    @jillespina 2 года назад +6

    Weirdly, after 30 years I can only appreciate this song/piece right now. And yes, I do like the ending now. It's a great sudden stop.

  • @hotrat2011
    @hotrat2011 3 года назад +3

    Tales from topographic oceans .... great work !!!

  • @charlesfleeman1765
    @charlesfleeman1765 3 года назад +12

    Another song on this album, Onward, was featured in the 2015 movie "Youth" with Michael Caine, Harvey Keitel, and others.

    • @chac65
      @chac65 3 года назад +1

      Onward might be the only song on the album I really like.

  • @bryantursk7637
    @bryantursk7637 3 года назад +9

    My first exposure to Yes was their Fragile album. If you decide to do an album in its entirety I would recommend Yes Fragile. You won't be disappointed.

  • @vcp93
    @vcp93 3 года назад +40

    "Disco YES?" Well, if you can dance to this, I want to know what you're smoking. 😉✌️
    "Scattered and chaotic.... agreed". This LP did not get a lot of love. As a big YES fan I love it, but I can certainly understand the many criticisms.

    • @scottrousseau5592
      @scottrousseau5592 3 года назад +2

      You know that hit me too, how would you dance to it? like nobody's watching for sure.

    • @simonal1989
      @simonal1989 3 года назад +2

      Well, it was recorded in 1978, the peak of disco right there.

    • @anthonytanzola7816
      @anthonytanzola7816 2 года назад

      Disco Yes = The Red and Blue remix dance version of Owner of a Lonely Heart and the Hello Goodbye remix of Leave It.

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo 2 года назад +4

    This album was hated by many yes fans, myself included. We renamed it "Tormento". On the Silent Wings is the best song and it does end abruptly. Jon Anderson in interviews talks about how the band members felt alienated from each other. He went on to do the Jon & Vangelis albums, which are amazing.

  • @sandrocastanero3759
    @sandrocastanero3759 3 года назад +25

    You need to listen Silently Falling or Canon Song by Chris Squire in his solo album!

    • @recordmanjohn
      @recordmanjohn 3 года назад +3

      100% among my favorite albums from Yes (Relayer & Going for the One)

    • @gazzeruk
      @gazzeruk 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely agree. Such an interesting album

    • @Jay-iq5zu
      @Jay-iq5zu 3 года назад

      There's a cool part in Safe/Canon Song where they do a big circle (canon?) or something with the time signature. I'd like to know the actual term for that it is.

    • @josephgottlieb1652
      @josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад

      Doug is too musically DENSE and biased toward piano to to appreciate any Squire solo work.

    • @gazzeruk
      @gazzeruk 3 года назад +1

      I don't agree. I think he would be open and has commented on Chris's playing. the problem is getting it noticed among all the other suggestions

  • @soggytom
    @soggytom 3 года назад +12

    And as far as Jon's lyrics, he himself said that more often than not, they were words that sounded good with the music. But yeah, there was always a distinct spiritual feel. Or pretty direct, as in "Tales From Topographic Oceans" or "Magnification".

    • @MattMeskill
      @MattMeskill 3 года назад +2

      Exactly. I read an interview with him once which, of course I'll never be able to find, where he said he used certain words like notes or instruments - they just sounded cool. They sounded right. He didn't care about the meaning.

    • @danielreynolds7458
      @danielreynolds7458 3 года назад +1

      mike patton does that also

  • @erithacusnacnud
    @erithacusnacnud 3 года назад +3

    8:07 'On the darkest night so painful - do you hunger for love midst the torture of being one?' One - meaning solo, alone, isolated, unconnected, unloved. A very heartfelt cry for emotional regeneration. Then, 'To the common goal of freedom, where we offer ourselves midst the balancing of the Sun', echoes Soon / Gates of Delirium, 'The Sun will lead us, our reason to be here'. Solar spirituality as a figure of the divine and life's meaning / guidance. Tormato - a most underrated album IMHO. Perhaps my all time third fave Yes album, which is saying something. They'd reached perfection with the GFTO album and now they were playing catharsis doing musical genius for fun, each member riding high with effortless virtuosity.

    • @jeffcarroll6553
      @jeffcarroll6553 3 года назад +1

      Indeed 'alienation', the pain and bane of the modern human being "the I", disconnected from yourself and others. The fall from grace as in the Garden of Eden exemplified by the consciousness soul overtaking the sentient soul in human development. From Anthroposophy "the Sun" the physical manifestation of the Christ Being offering the balance between Lucifer and Ahriman such that humanity can work from Free Will in their decision making processes.
      Esoteric knowledge now made open for those with ears and eyes.

    • @GollyGoshGollyWog
      @GollyGoshGollyWog Год назад +1

      Don't forget Nu somme du soliel (we are of the sun) from Topographic Oceans

  • @rmanpojo8485
    @rmanpojo8485 3 года назад +2

    " On the darkest night so painful......
    Do you hunger for love midst the torture of being one"
    Being one can be great and an enormous overwhelming life chancing experience.......... "Losing" you're ego can be an extremely painful.

    • @rmanpojo8485
      @rmanpojo8485 3 года назад

      The ending so abrupt is perfect like the ending (guitar rif) of "Awaken". is perfect. It is not what you expect... Making music is not only a technical rational process it can be a spiritual process too.

    • @jeffcarroll6553
      @jeffcarroll6553 3 года назад +1

      This is so.

  • @jonathanhenderson9422
    @jonathanhenderson9422 3 года назад +3

    If you want to explore some underrated Yes, the material from their comeback/reunion album Keys to Ascension is surprisingly great. The big problem is that by then most had written Yes off so it hasn't been heard much except by dedicated fans. Both Mind Drive and That, That Is are really solid epics, and Foot Prints is damn good too. It's definitely as close as they ever got to their 70s heyday.

  • @fbdt
    @fbdt 3 года назад +8

    Doug, react to Big Big Train. Suggest 'East Coast Racer' from live performance (or Victorian Brickwork). I guarantee that you will not regret the choice. I listen to prog over 20 years now and this band is a true gem!

  • @artureberlpegorari9378
    @artureberlpegorari9378 3 года назад +4

    This album is so underrated and overlooked... Love all the songs, even though they are short. Don't Kill the Whale is Great and Release, Release is a fun Rock and Roll masterpiece that Only Yes could do. Negative side: Rick Wakeman used tooooooo high notes and weird synthesizers sounds that in parts of some songs (Just like his solo on this tune presented here) can disturb the years... a experimental album for Yes that is for sure a "Love or Hate" one. I Love and it is my fave along with Relayer and The Yes Album. Chris Squire exquisite bass sounds drives all of the album and is one of his best performances in the Studio. Thank you Doug, please do a reaction to the Don't Kill the Whale oficial vídeo... it is as weird as the vídeo clips were back on the 70's. Keep on Rocking man ! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @alansmith8195
    @alansmith8195 3 года назад +16

    Other possibilities that may lead to shorter & less grand works for yes & genesis is that they had already done the big complicated stuff and as the 1970's were coming to an end, they moved on.... Also in Britain in 1977 , punk shook everything up. Things change

    • @johnnyquest6115
      @johnnyquest6115 3 года назад

      Exactly. I'd like to see this guy react to Blink-182.

  • @eduardoferreira1963
    @eduardoferreira1963 3 года назад +4

    This bass sound and his phrases are Unbelievable!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @ronmueller1164
    @ronmueller1164 Год назад

    My favorite Yes album. Also my first concert in 1979. This album also contains sounds from one of the world's rarest keyboard instruments, the Birotron- an evolution of the Mellotron. Such a profound album. Thanks for featuring.

  • @wowiezowie4235
    @wowiezowie4235 3 года назад +8

    You must do a reaction to "And You And I" from Close To The Edge. The song that changed Jon's life! It will make up for any of the shortcomings of this album!

    • @fcamiola
      @fcamiola 3 года назад +2

      Top 5 Yes definitely

  • @hansmoerenhout
    @hansmoerenhout 3 года назад +5

    So funny, I love this track by Yes, and I think I got used to the ending, but coming back to me now is that my initial reaction was in line with yours… also makes me think that if I remember correctly that it was Trevor Horn (vocals on Drama, and producer of 90125) who once said: “almost everything Yes does they do wrong, but they do it so beautifully”. Well there is so much Yes still to discover…

  • @yesspazsmith9895
    @yesspazsmith9895 3 года назад +3

    "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is in my all-time Yes top five, period.

  • @Snulla04
    @Snulla04 2 года назад +1

    Scattered and chaotic, that´s the beauty of it. I thing Tormato is the most underrated record from Yes, because it represent completely new sound or mixtures of sounds. That said, "Close to the Edge" is my classical favourite, maybe with second half of "Tales from Topographic Ocean" without forgetting the early Yeas. Thank you Doug, I love how you tackle Yes, and I am hardly in any doubt of "Glose to the Edge" classical potentials.

  • @vcp93
    @vcp93 3 года назад +7

    Jon Anderson was on "90125" and "Big Generator", which Steve Howe was not on (ASIA period). "Keys to Ascension" was after these LPs.

    • @donaldwitt9364
      @donaldwitt9364 3 года назад +2

      I think he is saying the five on this album were together until Keys,

    • @markhaus2830
      @markhaus2830 3 года назад

      Jon was also on the album TALK in the early 90's. Actually my favorite of the Trevor Rabin era.

    • @deciccohernan
      @deciccohernan 3 года назад +4

      They all were in Union before Keys to ascension if i’m not mistaken

    • @daicullinane7746
      @daicullinane7746 3 года назад +1

      @@deciccohernan But other then Squire doing some vocals on a few tracks, it was effectively a combining together of ABWH material and Rabin Yes.

    • @vcp93
      @vcp93 3 года назад +1

      @@donaldwitt9364 no, he said Jon wasn't on any albums until "Ascension". Not a big deal, just not correct.

  • @dhfenske
    @dhfenske 3 года назад +10

    They were having lots of "issues" when they made this album, so the ending might be affected by that....oh, there you go, you got to it eventually...yes, they were having "clashes".

  • @tracygosell9199
    @tracygosell9199 3 года назад +3

    Jon and Rick get together with Steve Howe and Bill Bruford in 1989 with the ABWH album.

  • @luvyesmusici4886
    @luvyesmusici4886 3 года назад

    My gateway album that started my wonderful journey into YES, all things YES-related, hundreds of friends along the way, and decades of enjoyment. I truly discovered YES on top of an apartment building, in Amman, Jordan, as the sun was starting to break on the horizon, of an over two thousand year old, sleeping city. An amazing moment for me, that started my quest to track down all the participants, and their music. What a ride it has been!

  • @IllumeEltanin
    @IllumeEltanin 3 года назад +9

    Composed by Anderson and Squire, although I think Squire was the main composer of this one.
    For a completely different feel from this same album, check out Squire's composition Onward. A beautiful ballad.

    • @chac65
      @chac65 3 года назад +2

      Onward might be the only song on the album I like.

    • @Atom-56
      @Atom-56 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, I associate this song with Chris, when I heard he had died, I just had to hear it.

    • @IllumeEltanin
      @IllumeEltanin 3 года назад +2

      @@Atom-56
      When I first joined Facebook, there used to be a place for a quote or motto on one's profile. It may still be there, I dunno. Mine was:
      🎶 On the Silent Wings of Freedom... 🎵
      I never changed or deleted it, so it may still be there.

    • @johnnicholson8345
      @johnnicholson8345 3 года назад +2

      you are correct. This was mostly written by FIshy.

  • @tomdac
    @tomdac 2 года назад

    Interesting seeing someone your age hear this for the first time. I was 16 when it came out and it changed how I listened to music. The band was not happy with this album and felt it needed more work. I love it. Love ur channel. Keep up the good work.

  • @jinxd7659
    @jinxd7659 3 года назад +16

    Hi Doug, listen to the beauty of 'Madrigal' on Tormato - Yes at it's simplest, or 'Onward' also on Tormato for beautiful Jon Anderson/Chris Squire harmonies

    • @jimz6850
      @jimz6850 3 года назад +1

      When people comment on how Cantrell/Staley harmonized vocally; i always think of Andersen/Squire and how they just perfectly complemented each other.

  • @michaelkolodziej589
    @michaelkolodziej589 2 года назад +1

    Hey Disco Doug, thanks for another entertaining and informative video - keep'em coming!

  • @nigelbentonakauapoap3691
    @nigelbentonakauapoap3691 3 года назад +4

    My first YES album... reminds me of being at college for the first term and being asked that horrifying question by the older guys... "So, what are you into". On telling them they laughed and said "Mate, you need to listen to YES and RUSH"... and the rest is history!! 👍

  • @mhlevy
    @mhlevy 3 года назад +7

    BTW, Chris Squire's bass sound on this album is from a combination of Eventide Harmonizer, with a MuTron III. I believe that the keyboard sound you found interesting was a Moog Polymoog, and another instrument Rick used on the album was a Birotron, which is similar to a Mellotron, which used tapes, but rather than a fixed tape, the Birotron used cartridges, like 8 track cartridges with endless loops, so it wasn't limited to 8 seconds of sustain time. Only a handful of them were ever made, and RIck was an investor in the company. Another cool thing about that album was this was the first concert tour where Yes performed in the round! It was an awesome concert!

  • @adriangoodrich4306
    @adriangoodrich4306 3 года назад +7

    Doug, yet again I think you pretty well nailed this one! I reckon the majority of Yes fans would totally agree with your comments on and assessment of this piece? This yes fan sure does! I agree the synthesiser ruins this song - and indeed most of the album IMO. There was a shedload of issues with band members, and with the record label and others over this album. Indeed, even over its cover and name, courtesy of a certain Mr Wakeman's action in response to seeing the cover, leading to "Yes - Tor" (a play on Yes Tor, the second-highest point on Dartmoor in Devon, England) becoming "Yes - Tormato". I think this all shows in the music and production. A handful of reasonable songs on the album IMO - Future Times/Rejoice, Don't Kill The Whale, Onward. But My first reaction on hearing this album, all those years ago, after the first two tracks was one of bitter disappointment. That remains my reaction to this day.

    • @usaturnuranus
      @usaturnuranus 2 года назад

      That photo of the group all wearing those ridiculous looking YES jackets just carrys the vibe for me - none of them looked happy about any of this. There are a couple of decent enough songs on the album, but I just felt let down by the thing as a whole. And we all know how things went from there...

  • @eurz9188
    @eurz9188 3 года назад +3

    "On the Silent Wings of Freedom", esp. if you listen to the live versions, it almost feels to me like a bass "solo" with the other instruments playing around and providing accompaniment. In terms of how Chris Squire gets his signature sound the main components seem to be (a) a "fat" attack achieved by letting the thumb nail hit the string immediately after the pick (b) A Rickenbacker's Ric-o-Sound setup with 2 outputs, and using guitar pedals&s on one and bass pedals&s on the other, mixing them afterwards for a wider than normal spectrum of frequencies (c) new rotosound strings, I've read that for Chris Squire often replaced his strings with new ones before a performance, instead of letting them "age" (d) the way the bass ended up after various maintenance operations, like sanding & refinishing (Rickenbacker themselves have measured these details and produced a "Chris Squire signature" edition of its Rickenbacker 4001 Bass Guitar) (e) last, but not least, being a superb player :)

    • @dpstrial
      @dpstrial 3 года назад

      I can reproduce Chris's sound exactly. He uses as much treble as bass, new round-wound strings, a pick and on this particular record a flanger and wah-wah on the treble pick up.

  • @TheRKae
    @TheRKae 3 года назад +21

    In a very excellent book called "Yes" by Dan Hedges, we learn that Steve wanted to do shorter pieces, so they could play more varied stuff in concert, and not just do a show with a half-dozen long songs. He was sort of weary of the long-form music. He was also losing interest in Jon's "airy fairy" music (as Steve called it). All of this is why Steve went off to start Asia a few years later.

    • @onsesejoo2605
      @onsesejoo2605 3 года назад +2

      They tried with Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes but it did not went well in UK even though they did fairly well in the US tour. It was then when Asia happened after Yes split.

  • @timbrown2971
    @timbrown2971 Год назад

    Definitely some of Chris’ best and most unique work. The sounds he gets out of the bass are just marvelous.

  • @leonardoaronna8249
    @leonardoaronna8249 3 года назад +5

    Suggestions:
    Focus - Hamburger Concerto
    Focus - Eruption
    Jethro Tull - Baker St. Muse
    Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean
    Colosseum - The Valentyne Suite
    Thank you

    • @adriangoodrich4306
      @adriangoodrich4306 3 года назад

      I'm with you on the two Focus ones.

    • @scottrousseau5592
      @scottrousseau5592 3 года назад

      Ditto Ditto Ditto. Have met, talked and breakfasted with Sir Thijs. A really great person and a critically acclaimed classical flautist. I was amazed he used a simple closed hole flute on the Focus tours I saw. Then again he was playing organ with the other hand most of the time.

  • @davidskelhorn9711
    @davidskelhorn9711 2 года назад

    Thank you for playing this - haven't listened in 40 years - magic! Squire is king! Don't over analyse it! They work together co-operatively! They are counter-intuitive!

  • @fogzax
    @fogzax 3 года назад +4

    That was so cool to see a Tormato reaction! I've always loved this album and that track. The bass is the star of the album like you say beautiful tone. Funny you called it Yes Disco - that probably explains why I like the sound so much as I've always liked that cheesy disco vibe and the album came out around that time. At some point you should check out Future Times / Rejoice which is another great track it's two tracks but they really belong together. The album was famous for being a really bad one for the band to record because their were creativity clashes like you say with everyone jossling for dominance which gives it that chaotic feeling.

    • @josephgottlieb1652
      @josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад

      Doug, sadly is a failed musician, failed piano teacher, so now he's trying to scrape a few bux together as a RUclipsr . . .
      He BARELY knows what he is talking about, and there's NO WAY this is his first listen / reaction ..

  • @urbangardener66
    @urbangardener66 3 года назад +1

    You've hit the Yes conundrum. Pretty much everything after Relayer is very uneven. So many different lineups on so many albums, there just isn't that tight focus that was to be found starting with Yes Album through Relayer. But what a run that was! It would be really awesome if you could move back to that era and react to one of the epic side long compositions on TFTO, maybe side one or side two, though they're all great. Love your reactions Doug!

  • @TheSkydogsguitar
    @TheSkydogsguitar 3 года назад +4

    The live version of this from the Wembley soundboard is fantastic.

    • @fcamiola
      @fcamiola 3 года назад +1

      What exact show? Cheers

  • @inagetawodi4531
    @inagetawodi4531 5 дней назад

    Jon is simply saying that we all yearn for love. ❤️ 🙏🏼🕉️

  • @TomZacchini
    @TomZacchini 3 года назад +3

    Squire wanted to do a single album after all the epic songs like edge and awaken and especially after the topographic album. Tormato is a lot influenced by Squire.
    The lyrics.... Squire always says that he never understood the meaning of what Anderson wrote, but he said "write what you want, i sing it" 😄

  • @richmorgan1970
    @richmorgan1970 3 года назад +1

    Doug, I’ve only just discovered your very wonderful and illuminating channel and I have thoroughly enjoyed how you have reacted to and analysed some of my favourite pieces of music from my mis-spent youth. However I can’t find any King Crimson pieces in your back catalogue, which I feel is a serious omission from your prog-rock listening. I would particularly love to hear what you make of Side 2 of Lizard, their 3rd album, the suite comprising Prince Rupert Awakes/Bolero/The Battle of Glass Tears/Big Top. I know you love Jon Anderson’s voice, and he guested on this seminal work, as did such giants as Keith Tippett and Robin Miller. Just an amazing journey through a spectrum of musical genres, sown together seamlessly.

  • @phred23
    @phred23 3 года назад +3

    I love your outrage at the way the track ended, Doug.

    • @christopherwright8811
      @christopherwright8811 2 года назад

      Don't blame him - and don't like the snyth tone at all - sounds like a 1980s kid's second-hand Casio!

  • @johnpryer9395
    @johnpryer9395 3 года назад

    Way back in 1970, I was blown away by my first encounter with The YES Album, especially tracks "Yours Is No Disgrace" and "Starship Trooper" - and to this day never tire of listening to and admiring Yes's sheer energy, creativity and musicianship (as in "Awaken"). Like yourself Doug, I'm a professional muso, composer and performer. If you've not covered either of those two trax Doug, I think you might be pleasantly surprised. Thx for your vids.

  • @evaldoaltino29
    @evaldoaltino29 3 года назад +13

    True, this song doesn't measure up to earlier masterpieces like Roundabout, Heart of the Sunrise, The Revealing Science of God, Starship Trooper, Yours is no Disgrace and other songs from the albums from the early seventies, that are much more representative of the genius of Yes. I still recommend those songs.

  • @danielmoonen1891
    @danielmoonen1891 3 года назад +1

    Small correction on your comments on Wakeman and Anderson's absence from the band. Anderson rejoined in 1983 for the very successful 90125 album. Wakeman was back for 1991's "Union" , which he would rather name "Onion", and then rejoined for 1996's "Keys To Ascension".
    Thanks for all your wonderful work, Doug. Keep it going 🙂👍

    • @bobby666666
      @bobby666666 3 года назад

      Rick didn't like the album Union, but loved the tour for it.

  • @pwethman1
    @pwethman1 3 года назад +7

    They were under a lot of pressure from the record company to produce shorter more accessible songs which eventually led to them splitting up.

    • @JeffJefferyUK
      @JeffJefferyUK 3 года назад

      Music execs are cretins.
      Music exec (to Yes, but could be almost any successful band!): "Stop doing the kind of music that's made you so successful!"

  • @DanPemberton
    @DanPemberton 7 месяцев назад

    They didn't know when this was recorded that it would be the last of this Era. Infighting over Drama led to Anderson and Wakeman before Drama was recorded. Great reactions!

  • @jeannettesimpson9778
    @jeannettesimpson9778 3 года назад +4

    Apparently they decided to self-produce the album and both Rick Wakeman and Chris Squire have said that "there were too many hands on the control room faders". There were also rumours that the record company refused to let the band return to the studio to finish the album off properly.

    • @frankmarsh1159
      @frankmarsh1159 3 года назад +1

      They started with Eddie Offord but he quit in the middle of production. He used Dolby but the guys that came in after him didn't know he was using Dolby. All the overdubs were recorded without Dolby. They mixed it without Dolby because they didn't know the initial tracks had Dolby on them. That's why Tormato sounds so thin and trebly. Also Steve Howe was experimenting with new guitars and got something awful whiny tones. Squire was using his new Mu-tron and Wakeman was using his new Polymoog and Biotron. One of the only albums in history to have a Biotron on it. Tormato is generally considered to be the worst sounding Yes album.

    • @jeannettesimpson9778
      @jeannettesimpson9778 3 года назад

      @@frankmarsh1159 Thanks for the information. 👍

  • @justineapril7922
    @justineapril7922 3 года назад

    Back in '78, I bought this cassette tape and played it so much in my car that I wore it out! "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" closes out 'Tormato' and is arguably the best track of the album. The entire album is outstanding except probably "Arriving UFO" and "Circus of Heaven." My favorite song is "Release, Release" followed by "Don't Kill the Whale." When I saw Yes in 2015, they opened the concert with a Rickenbacker bass on a stand with a spotlight on it and a recording of the beautiful song "Onward" (from 'Tormato') playing. Such a special tribute to Chris Squire (RIP Fish). ❤😇🙏

    • @jeffcarroll6553
      @jeffcarroll6553 3 года назад +1

      I have always considered Circus of Heaven a finger flip to the unimaginative by Jon.

  • @daviddelemont
    @daviddelemont 3 года назад +16

    Frank Zappa - Andy
    Proyecto Tulpa - Doble Terror A Las 8
    Pitehui - Sol De Noche
    Pat Metheny - America Undefined

    • @jacques-andresaint-laurent1300
      @jacques-andresaint-laurent1300 3 года назад +3

      Frank Zappa, the Master, one of the pioneers of counter-culture in music and still so much more. The Adventures of Greggary Peccary, 20 minutes+, I'd like to see Doug react to that !

    • @derangedband
      @derangedband 3 года назад +7

      @@jacques-andresaint-laurent1300 i wonder what he would make of Peaches en Regalia. Its an awesome composition :)

    • @Yosef1952
      @Yosef1952 3 года назад +2

      Andy, definitely.

    • @commanderk3829
      @commanderk3829 3 года назад +4

      @@jacques-andresaint-laurent1300Zappa's Inca Roads as well.

    • @edelcorrallira
      @edelcorrallira 3 года назад +2

      Id like to see a breakdown of whatever it is that Zappa Plays Zappa did with Zombie Woof with Steve Vai. I would really love to have a better idea what on earth is going on there...
      If you havent, Id highly recommend listening to it, I think it is a very exquisite, tasteful and frankly masterful performance of an unsurprisingly solid composition (Zappa making a solid composition, Great Googly Moogly, still really like this song, but same applies to any mentioned already)

  • @docbobster
    @docbobster 3 года назад

    I wouldn't have picked this for you to do, but hearing it again, it is better than I remembered and your analysis was enlightening as always.

  • @alanmccartney3922
    @alanmccartney3922 3 года назад +17

    Hi Doug, good one. But don't overlook Soundchaser track from the Relayer album. Its so fast with a large number of tempo changes - should give you plenty to discuss and review.

    • @josephgottlieb1652
      @josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад

      If "King Doug" had the chops & memory to be a REAL musician, he'd be playing or recording in his own Band . .
      Clearly, Doug does NOT have those skills . . .
      DON'T be like doug. :(..

  • @wowiezowie4235
    @wowiezowie4235 3 года назад +2

    In concert Chris and Alan would run away with this tune by themselves. Sort of each doing a solo but at the same time. So really a duet, but anyway it was an incredible show of musicianship.

  • @steveclark9211
    @steveclark9211 3 года назад +3

    You should really check out the song Terrapin Station by the Grateful Dead. The entire piece is about 16 1/2 minutes and it's great! It's probably the one thing the Grateful Dead did that's considered Prog.

  • @thomassharmer7127
    @thomassharmer7127 3 года назад +1

    This is the sound of super talented musicians pulling in so many different directions at once that they literally tore the band apart. There were big personality clashes going on and even bigger musical differences. Then in the middle of the recording sessions Alan White broke his ankle while roller skating. So they just called it a day and walked (or in Alan's case limped 🤗) away. The track kind of reflects that at the end. It's not their most cohesive album, with some very diverse material, but is well worth exploring.

  • @Paul71H
    @Paul71H 3 года назад +9

    Much like the entire Tormato album, "On the Silent Wings of Freedom" is a flawed gem. But it's also an overlooked gem, and it's one of my favorite Yes songs -- mainly based on the bass and the vocals.

    • @yezman68
      @yezman68 3 года назад +2

      That bass riff is one of may favorites from Chris.

  • @skatter44
    @skatter44 3 года назад +1

    A couple of songs from the next album that features Trevor Horn on vocals and Geoff Downs on keyboards (The Buggles) that you may like are Machine Messiah and Tempus Fugit. Really great songs.

    • @deciccohernan
      @deciccohernan 3 года назад +1

      He has already done a reaction video to a live version of machine messiah (my favorite from Drama).

  • @nicoladolby2154
    @nicoladolby2154 3 года назад +4

    This is one of the few Yes songs I could never get into. It's like freeform jazz on a bass synth with Steve Howe shredding through 6 delay pedals.

    • @josephgottlieb1652
      @josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад +1

      Give it a few MORE spins . . a few with t he lyrics, then JUST concentrate on following Squire's Bass . .
      It's EASY to pick out guitar & keys + cymbals . .
      but you gotta DIG DOWN and really LISTEN for the bass parts.
      ONCE you can follow them, all the other instruments fall into place and THEN Silent Wings will become the MASTERPIECE it truly is.

    • @enkiitu
      @enkiitu 2 года назад

      Terrible song. I agree. They completely missed the mark. Although that doesn’t take anything from their greatness. Just a bad step.

  • @andrewheck6922
    @andrewheck6922 Год назад

    I saw that concert in Indianapolis 1978. The stage was in the middle of the arena. We were 6 rows from the stage. I have an enlarged framed picture taken at the concert including the ticket stub

  • @davep8221
    @davep8221 3 года назад +6

    Release, Release is another of my faves on this..
    Anti-right, Anti-left
    Anti-cipate the love of creation.
    Only Jon.

  • @terminaltvshow
    @terminaltvshow 3 года назад

    Echoing others, you’ll love Fish Out of Water. Every track is wonderful. Safe, the 15 minute epic finale is the crown jewel and has some really nice orchestration. Squire’s sound at the end is unreal.

  • @wowiezowie4235
    @wowiezowie4235 3 года назад +5

    Doug, this was not the greatest time for creative output from Yes. As I recall pretty much all of the members were pretty burned out from touring and were even a bit on edge with each other, and there was disagreement on the direction of the band. I personally did not care for Rick's sound on this one which was quite a bit different from previous Lp's. The 70's were drawing to a close and change was afoot. It was time for a break and people went in different directions Thankfully this classic lineup would reconvene once again, refreshed and for a bit, provide us with more of their magic! Jon Anderson has said that "And You And I" from Close To The Edge was the song that changed his life. It certainly changed mine and I would love to hear your reaction to it. It's hands down one of their greatest tunes and at ten minutes might make for a nice weekday vid!

    • @Ken5244
      @Ken5244 3 года назад +1

      Thank you for being the only person here accurately describing the time and circumstances surrounding the making of this album. Most of the other comments here are complete b.s. from people who probably weren't even alive when YES made this record. People saying they broke up because of "partying" or because "New Wave was changing the music scene" or "Rick and Steve were competing to see who could play the fastest and the loudest." Such ridiculous claptrap made up out of thin air.

  • @richardraybould6928
    @richardraybould6928 Год назад

    The genius of Chris Squire. Always loved this since I heard it on release in '78.🎸

  • @MatheusManzano
    @MatheusManzano 3 года назад +5

    In this song Rick Wakeman uses a synthesizer which is today's rarest one: The Birotron. Nobody knows for sure how many Birotrons exist today, as Rick Wakeman himself had more than half ever produced and says all that left with him was one in pieces.

    • @davep8221
      @davep8221 3 года назад +3

      From what I understand, he was actually involved in its creation. It was like a mellotron that used, IIR, CDs instead of tapes for the samples.
      I think he smashed a few to pieces in the woods.
      BTW, Rick threw the tomato and the cover. Apparently they all hated it.

    • @MatheusManzano
      @MatheusManzano 3 года назад +1

      ​@@davep8221 oh my God! Rick's boozing days were mental!

    • @russellmaddox2437
      @russellmaddox2437 3 года назад +1

      @@davep8221 It used 8-track cartridges (CDs were still some years away). That turned out to be part of its downfall, as 8-tracks weren't meant to be played on their side.

    • @frankmarsh1159
      @frankmarsh1159 3 года назад +1

      @@davep8221 The Biotron used 8-track tapes. Patrick Moraz used an Orchestron on Relayer which used record discs. Both the Orchestron and Biotron are very rare instruments Yes is the only band to have used both. ruclips.net/video/62YuYdOWigs/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/URR7l-uI6JA/видео.html

    • @davep8221
      @davep8221 3 года назад +1

      @@frankmarsh1159 D'OH! Yep. That was a bit early for CDs.

  • @Movielani
    @Movielani 3 года назад

    Very cool how you hear the chords and changes within the layering and abundance of notes, and by calling them out in real-time it helps to develop my own ear ... you're obviously a good teacher! I grew up listening to The Beatles, Yes, PG-era Genesis, Gentle Giant, Renaissance, Tull, ELP, and others of that ilk. I would suggest Tales from Topographic Oceans (Yes), if not for one of these reaction videos, then for a personal listening sojourn. Also A Passion Play (Jethro Tull), Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (Genesis), Song of Sheherazade (Renaissance) and pretty much everything Gentle Giant!

  • @ralphhilliard9737
    @ralphhilliard9737 3 года назад +3

    Really need to do Supertramp’s “Fool’s Overture”!

  • @donaldwitt9364
    @donaldwitt9364 3 года назад

    Doug, I do enjoy your takes on the songs you have posted. I love this song and love this album, along with every YES album done by this lineup. Chris Squire did you bass pedals and he was along with Geddy Lee of Rush and John Entwhistle of the Who the best bass players of all time. I read he liked to put his bass in a coral version as another singer in the group. Steve Howe is one of my favorite guitarist, and this band and Deep Purple probably had some of the best musicians to assemble in a band especially in the 70's. Would love your take on all the songs mentioned along with Heart of the Sunrise. There is enough YES material to do a month of the Daily Doug.

  • @jorgeramirezvelazco5820
    @jorgeramirezvelazco5820 3 года назад +6

    Many gems arise in this particularly underated album.
    Thruth is that they were tired and coming from.one of their (many) creative peaks with their previous album, the sublime Going for the one.
    Lots of things were passing inside the band and outside as well, in the musical scene. Punk was coming hard and the use of electronics was moving forward in terms of the creative and industrial sides of pop music.
    I love this album, because of the.marvelous and strange songs that it contained, and because of the paths it marked for the future of the band.
    Thank you, Dough, for your.bright and emotional impressions.about this song.

    • @careyvinzant
      @careyvinzant 3 года назад +2

      Also, Rick Wakeman (in his own words) "used to drink for the British Olympic team." Equally fitting description of Squire and White. Love 'em, but these guys basically partied their band out of existence around this time during the abortive Paris sessions.

  • @ATAH69
    @ATAH69 3 года назад +1

    Hi Doug
    It's Kevin..
    Nice reaction,
    Not so sure I get the Disco
    Feel, Was thinking maybe more like radical jazz 😂
    Probably way off but it is all over the map.
    Was lucky enough to see Yes
    A couple different times,
    The Band always sounded
    crystal clear..
    They were great shows.
    Not sure if you have heard & or already reviewed this..
    I'd like to recommend
    Yours Is No Disgrace
    From the album
    Yes Songs
    Thinking you will enjoy it!
    Thanks

  • @Davejkn
    @Davejkn 3 года назад +7

    the synthesiser is probably a Polymoog, one of the first polyphonic synths - it was a big deal in the late 70's to actually be able to play chords on a synth.
    The shorter tracks were probably more down to the influence of punk and new wave - prog rock was suddenly out of fashion and so called 'dinosaur' bands like Yes and Genesis started writing shorter more relevant material. Tormato's not one of their best albums, it felt a bit disappointing at the time. Perhaps you should check out something from Fragile ot The Yes Album instead.

    • @matthewweber3904
      @matthewweber3904 3 года назад +1

      Yeah, Wakeman had some kind of endorsement deal with the Polymoog. Don't know whether that's the reason it's all over this album, but the fact that all the voices use the same oscillator and filter was a drawback.

    • @josephgottlieb1652
      @josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад +1

      A mellotron, or maybe that MIXED with a harpsichord??

  • @rsm3t
    @rsm3t 3 года назад +2

    Several have mentioned Onward and Madrigal and these are lovely tunes.
    I'd like to add Future Times/Rejoice to round out my choices for the best of this album.

  • @eduardoangel923
    @eduardoangel923 3 года назад +3

    Yes - Turn of the century, please!

  • @robertohernandezbruno1717
    @robertohernandezbruno1717 4 месяца назад +1

    Silent 🤫 of freedom. Tremendo bajo men 😊

  • @nealeger8154
    @nealeger8154 3 года назад +5

    Squire's bass sounds very 'liquid'. Unfortunately, Wakeman was going through what I call his "Casio phase", and Howe is just as impressive as ever.

    • @Atom-56
      @Atom-56 3 года назад

      Both Chris and Steve are very fluid on this.

  • @mrmusic248
    @mrmusic248 3 года назад +1

    Squire's bass sound is produced by an effects box called a "Mutron Phaser", into which he plugs his bass, then runs the output from that box, to his amp.
    The band had little energy at this point, compared to "Relayer" or "Close To The Edge", but burn out is a common problem in rock & roll, & this project was an example of that.
    Nevertheless, this song & "Release, Release", are the highlights of "Tormato".

  • @markearll3940
    @markearll3940 3 года назад +5

    For me the best part of this song, apart from the amazing bass playing, is the guitar riff at 3:54, unfortunately just at the point Doug starts talking about layering!

  • @tzviholt7536
    @tzviholt7536 3 года назад +1

    Hi Doug. I really like your channel. As a musician, it’s great to hear your initial thoughts on music I’ve loved for a long time. You’re knowledge base gives you a unique perspective as a first time listener. My suggestion to you (besides basically every Dream Theater song ever) is to check out Limo Wreck, by Soundgarden. It’s an incredible song from an incredible album (Superunknown). I think you’d really enjoy it. Shalom!

  • @newgunguy4176
    @newgunguy4176 3 года назад +3

    SKY OVERTURE by Uli Jon Roth!!!!!

  • @cricket8646
    @cricket8646 3 года назад

    I saw YES in the fall of 78' with a round three level carousel stage that rotated very slowly. It was possible to see all members of the band at all times. There was a driver inside of the stage controlling the speed and direction. The direction would change every now and then (rotate in the opposite direction). Very good show. I believe that Alan White was playing drums on the tour that time out. My 2nd time to see this amazing band was in 83' (90125 tour). Trevor Rabin ans Steve Howe were both on that tour together at that time. However, the show was much more intense and more ROCK oriented because of Rabin. VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD SHOW !!! Each time the shows were about 3hrs.

  • @roberttee9790
    @roberttee9790 3 года назад +5

    'Disco Yes' Those words are blasphemy! Squires bass along with Alan on drums drives this piece. Best song on the album (imo) and if 6 minutes longer could have reached epic status.

    • @Aquatarkus96
      @Aquatarkus96 3 года назад +1

      Hey lay off Disco. Theres plenty of catchy great disco tracks. It's not the musicians fault that the genre was commercialized to hell and back and as a result overplayed EVERYWHERE..

    • @roberttee9790
      @roberttee9790 3 года назад +1

      @@Aquatarkus96 I stand by my post...and I was not talking to you!

    • @josephgottlieb1652
      @josephgottlieb1652 3 года назад

      @@roberttee9790 You're right, dude!

  • @fcamiola
    @fcamiola 3 года назад +1

    Cardiacs "The Everso Closely Guarded Line "....Please analyze that piece! It will blow your mind. Yes is also incredible...Jon Anderson forever!