Drummer reacts to "That, That Is" by Yes
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Thank you to our patron John H for this excellent selection for Yessaturday. This song went so many places and so much was said. There is a lot to this and I need to hear it a couple more times to really start to get it. I love how dense Yes can be. Layers upon layers...
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Gotta love YES-Saturdays. The best.
Glad to have Ken. I look forward to the weekend just because of the Yes and CSNY videos :)
@@L33Reacts ....Lee, you need to watch (if you haven't already) "Rick Wakeman's Awesome Piano Solo". It's live....and it is unbelievable. My Mom taught piano for 50 years in our home....and this was her favorite.
Thank you for playing “That, That Is”, I’ve been waiting it’s an awesome track. GOD BLESS Lee.ive always considered “That, That” a jewel in YES’s Catalog.
The Keys studio material and Magnification are my favourites of the later Yes releases.
AbSOLUTELY
Yes, but still, there is something missing from these latter day Yes songs. It's hard to put a finger on it, but it is missing nonetheless. There are lots of great musicians, maybe not the masters we've seen in Yes, but great in their own right. The skill that lifts some guys above the crowd and into stardom is songwriting. Anderson and Howe did most of the writing for the classic version of the band. Maybe they had just so much genius to share with us, and the genius tank ran dry with half the ouput on Tormato. The fact that the band broke up after that album is a sound indicator that they themselves knew they had reached the end of an era. I was elated to learn of the classic band get back togehter again after 15 years, and happy with the quality of the Keystudio material, thinking that the music would only get better and better. It didn't, unfotunately. But having the classic band tour again and play the songs of yesteryear was awesome. Why does "That, That Is" sound so disjointed when "Heart of the Sunrise" just flows? Hard to put a finger on it.
@@Yesquire0 Heart of the Sunrise isn't a 20 minute epic as is not the also perfect short Long Distance Runaround. Clearly THAT, THAT IS was a bold epic attempt to repeat their golden era which I eventually come around to consider it the only great new track from the two Keys albums.The more I listened, the more I felt the fluidity within it's revolving movements. I think the over layed chant is where some might get derailed but for me that stylistic Jon trademark works beautifully and at best, made the song one of my favorites after every 70's song up to the songs from "Going for the One" with the exception of 'Parallels" which with it's intense heavy organ and catchy pop Squire-ish theme has never been a favorite of mine.
Remembering when this came out. Being a avid YES fan, I cried and shouted out...YES, There back!, when I finished the album.
This was so refreshing after Talk and Union. Chris Squire said at the time a lot of the Keys to Ascension new material was done live in the studio with minimal overdubs.
ME TOO and it did take me a 2nd and 3rd listen to truly LOVE this cut as one of their greatest since back since the 70's
Hey Lee! Great song from 1996. Once again YES's management drops the ball. The classic line up were creating incredible music. This appears on Keys to Ascension 1 as a studio bonus track, also on Keystudio. I so wish that the band continued down this particular path, but it didn't happen. Things fell apart as usual. The music on Keystudio is some really good work by the band. They really had it going in the right direction. Sometimes being a diehard fan of YES can be really frustrating!!!🪐🪐🪐🛸🛸🛸⭐️⭐️⭐️👍😎
@@realbser1956 👍😎
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Super cool the blend of Hindi and American Indian rhythm with the thing YES does ✨️
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@@lesblatnyak5947 36!👍⭐️😎
@@TigerMtnKing 👍🎵🎼🎶😎
This jewel takes a few listen for YES begginers , I personally love it since day1, more key studio stuff, please. Blessings brother and tanks foe YES Saturday. 🎉🎉🎉🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love this song so much! It is a jewel with so many twists and turns.
Fantastically unique, even for YES. Thanks!!
@@BackLooking Because I say it is.
@@BackLooking Because I say it is.
@@BackLooking THEN DON'T ASK MY OPINION.
@@BackLooking You're making the mistake of believing I owe you an answer. And you certainly are dismissed.
This is one of the finest compositions, in my opinion, that Yes ever did. Absolutely gorgeous.
Absolute Masterpiece...one of my favorite Yes songs of the 21st century!!!
FINALLY!! Keys!!! LEE PLEASE LISTEN TO MIND DRIVE!!
Not 1 person on You tube has reviewed it!
It is different!
I Love it!
The more your listen…you’ll love it❤!
I’m a huge Yesfan and That That is….is just ok with me🤷♀️
I will definitely do mind drive in a couple weeks!! I'm booked for the next 2 yessaturdays but I will definitely do it when I can
@@L33Reacts Mind Drive is a Squire-fest! Cheers!
@@L33Reacts Very Cool! Looking forward to it! Would like to watch live😉
This was so beautiful. Sad that another jewel will go unnoticed by so many.
Yes. Very excited for this one. What a great piece of latter day Yes.
Yes, Lee. I believe God dreams of us! You hit that nail on the head!
Was exciting to get a couple new tracks off of each of the Keys' albums. Enjoy! Ty for reaction sir. Jon sounds great on these new tracks from that era.
Jon sounds great TODAY.
Saw them way back. Incredible.
I always listen 'till the end.
Jewel :) Never heard this one before. Thanks for sharing, and I agree with your points. Have a great weekend. A big Yes fan from northeast FL
Alan White’s solo album Ramshackled is absolutely amazing! Some Yes influence but a lot of just plain Rockin good stuff.
This was a jewel of a track!
absolute Jewel of a track 🤟
"Hard to find a through line" and your initial thoughts afterwards - spot on. One of the reasons Close to the Edge worked as a song is that the major themes were reiterated and developed throughout the piece, but many of their post-classic-era long form songs feel much more like a patchwork quilt than a Persian carpet, if you see what I mean. Having said that, I think they tried harder with this one than a few others, and the production/mixing is fantastic, especially the recording of the guitars.
I love Yes Saturday......hope you can continue that ... Don't forget GENTLE GIANT and a group that opened for YES IN the 70s.......... GRYPHON.......samples on utube.....!!!!
Exactly what I thought when l first heard it. Disjointed a little, but stunningly brilliant.
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It will take several more listens to fully appreciate "That, That Is" but it is worth it. As for Jon's voice, I think he still sounds fantastic here. And to me, no different than he sounded back in the 70s. An absolute _jewel_ of a singer! Let's see how many of you recognize these lyrics:
Don't forget to seek out the world
If you want to stay [stake out]
Your actions speak much louder than words
And you get to realize
Just as long as you have control
Holding the fire
Just as long as you can control
This point of your desire
Great days, it will all come to you [Wait as it will ...]
Feel another future response [Feel it as a...]
You get the heaven you like
You get the heaven
You get the heaven you need
You get to heaven now
Just as long as you bring the power
From the inside
Just as long as you hold the key
From the inside
Ascend and create
Ascend and create
Ascend and create
Ascension
After a couple more listens I definitely like it more each time. It's just a lot to take in on a first listen I guess lol 😆
@@L33Reacts Of course! Totally understandable. Any chance of doing a reaction to "Mind Drive"?
Is that Bring Me To The Power?
@@dhfenske BUZZZZ!!! No! But close. It's on the same album.
Aahh, nuts! Well thanks for the little contest. I had to look it up. Interesting that it includes the lyric “bring the power“ but it’s in a different song other than “bring me to the power“.
This track is a real jewel … or a gem in the rough. Some amazing playing and memorable moments. I think you’re right about the lack of cohesion. “Ascension part 2” holds together better. I think this era of Yes tops out with “The Ladder” … and “Magnification.” Still, lots of love to the guys for working toward keeping the music alive.
amazing song
Terrific song! In fact, all the studio tracks from the two Keys albums are great, so they compiled them into a single album called "Keystudio," and it's amazing. A real jewel. It came out in early 2001 the same year as Magnification, which makes that year nearly as great as '71, for Yes, musically. ❤✌
I totally agree!
I LOVE THIS SONG!!!
It’s Crack Time!!!
👍☮️👑😎
Jewel. A jewel of a masterpiece. Never heard it before and it’s awesome!
These guys are just the best. I love how they kept coming up with such different stuff compared to their previous work.
JEWEL! I was born in the 80s, so this is the Yes of my childhood. This album, ladder, magnification are all very special to me. I'm in the minority, I'm sure, of people who prefer Alan over Bill. I love all Yes albums and certainly Bill's contributions. Alan is a master of complex rhythms and time signatures. I've seen him navigate the band through awaken and machine massiah live, he is truly masterful. I prefer the rock edge that he brings to Yes. Also, this album has some of my favorite drum production, period.
It's a brilliant song Lee, you may have to listen to it a few more times to realize it. It took 17 years for this lineup to reunite, I wish they would have stayed together longer. 'Mind Drive' is another epic that is a must listen. Check it out!🤩
Keep it positive.
This is definitely a jewel in Yes’ later catalog.
I appreciate the objectivity of your comments, recognizing that each person’s opinion is entirely subjective. Not every Yes song is going to be Heart of the Sunrise or Close to the Edge or Awaken. I really wish that I found the studio material here more engaging because as a huge Yes fan of more than 50 years I naturally want to love wholeheartedly everything that they release; with the notable exceptions of Relayer and Going for the One(entire album) I still consider their first five albums as their creative pinnacle. Having said that, I freely admit that I listen to ‘Close to the Edge’ at least once most days; I especially appreciate the expanded version put out by Rhino records that includes alternate takes that feature Bill’s drums prominently in the mix. For your own listening pleasure check out Stuart Hamm’s ‘Outbound’ (bass like I’ve never heard it played before) and Ralf Illenberger’s ‘Electric Storm’. Stunning mix of acoustic guitar and white hot saxophone.
love the second pasrt 'all in all' sooooooo good
JEWEL, my nickname 👍
I bet Lee would love Mind Drive from Keys.
I can’t wait, to see his reaction to DREAMTIME!
all the crown jewels were here for this one
The new studio songs on Keys To Ascension were compiled on the KEYSTUDIO album which includes this song. The other great songs from this album are Mind Drive and Footprints which has a great ‘hook’ !
The other great album post year 2000 is MAGNIFICATION which features this lineup except for Rick who had other contractual commitments at this time and so an orchestra was used on this album.
Yes were all over the place at this point. Cheesy, New agey, poppy, and yet adorably catchy and fun to listen to. imagine Yes doing a 20 minute song about people with socio-economic problems... "CRACK TIME" always gets me 🤣
the part that starts at 9:31 is genuinely beautiful tho.
GREAT EPIC! and one with lyrics that are comprehendable, LOL. I love Ion here BTW. Again singing with versatile intensity as always.
Time is the most valuable JEWEL we possess, and it is also the most precious one to waste.
jewel
I think the live stuff of this era is the jewel of latter day YES.
For YES fans this was such a big deal when released. I love Trevor Rabin, (I really wish the ARW side of YES would have gone a bit further with an actual studio album.) but to have Steve back, and Rick was like water in the desert. This style and sound kept up through the lineups until Jon was forced out. Rick would come in and out for some later tours like the 35th anniversary but didn't take part in studio after the Keys stuff. A jewel in YES history.
I was so excited for this when it came out but had that same disjointed feeling too - the transitions were abrupt or fade-ins rather than a “thought-out” musical transition. It seemed like a Jon/Steve epic of musical chunks that Rick came in and recorded some stuff after it was done. I think Rick was one of the better transition composers in early Yes due to his classical training. Which is why I think he was tacked on after the track was basically already done. Like “Tales” it could use some tightening up and focus to make it more powerful - at least I think that’s why Rick was frustrated w Tales. Also missed hearing more Chris harmonies. JEWEL! Also seemed too “clean” compared to the Eddie Offord production days. I felt like I needed every note to be less mechanically, sonically, and timingly perfect - and w more humanity, swing, variation. Still - it’s like critiquing Monet or Beethoven. It’s still awesome and these are nitpicking preferences. ;)
Excellent observations, I feel the same way about the lack of cohesion here. Split it up into a couple or three songs that mesh better. Transitions weren’t very subtle. Also Steve Howe’s acoustic guitar ostinato reminds me of something Ralf Illenberger did some years ago. But it’s still Yes, so it’s still pretty good.
Here's what I tend to think about this song. It was a celebration. But what do I know? :) And I agree, it will grow on you.
It's more rotating themes than a single through line, but the more you listen you do discover all the themes woven into the other segments, sometimes very subtly on another instrument or another rhythm. But the transitions between the various ideas they each brought to the party are a bit stop/start. I agree about the lack of Jon/Chris vocal collaboration. Perhaps Jon's chanting/rapping flow made that more difficult . Chris was playing a piccolo bass (an octave higher than usual) so the fast, rhythmic riffs that form the backbone of the main rock sections are by Chris, although they sound more like guitar, with Rick holding down some of the deep bass end. This is like Yes starting again and finding out new possibilities, so it is a little underbaked in parts, but still a great tasting layer cake 😊.
totally agree.
I really like the song a lot, but the "somewhat fragmented" thing is true. From the same period, a little less piecemeal and perhaps more what you were expecting is the song "Mind Drive" by YES.
Maybe I will have to do "Mind Drive" now to see what all the talk is about! I'm booked for the next two weeks but I'll keep it in mind. Thank you 😊
@@L33Reacts I forgot: the song "Endless Dream" (1994, from the album Talk) definitely belongs in this category too.
Hey, Lee. I am so glad you do Yes Saturdays. Isn't Yes freaking amazing?
TTI concludes Yes's musical journey from Classical Prog in their early days, to Prog ROCK, with emphasis on ROCK. I trust you will enjoy it! With Peace and Love to all! (Michael)
Skip around? No way - not on a JEWEL like this, L33😉
Good as this is, it's hardly the jewel of the "Keys to Ascension" period. This and "Be the One" were the first two they wrote and recorded with Steve & Rick back in the fold, and it kind of shows. When you get to the new studio tracks that originally appeared on "Keys 2," you'll see them fully pull together like they did in their 70s heyday.
Rick said the KEYS 2 tracks are "light years ahead." KEYSTUDIO is nothing short of excellent.
Sometimes Steve just plays all the perfect notes.
My biggest sorrow is that Chris's bass became less and less over time.... Just remember Roundabout.
This album is a jewel.
Ah, excellent!! A track from my favorite Yes era, Keys to Magnification -- each one is incredible, and to my ears, even better than the CTTE era. And why not, they'd had over 20 years more experience!
Hope you do MIND DRIVE soon. It is more cohesive than this, that this.
See what you did there. 😊
Nice! I like Mind Drive better from the KTA albums! But this is great too...Mind Drive is the jewel though.
All Yes albums are either totally great or mostly great... except "Open Your Eyes".... I cried.
Excellent. I'll be back in 100 minutes.
22:08 Oh, some of it sounded "disjointed" at times? I totally understand what you mean, and agree with you, but there's one thing you need to understand about YES. YES "is" disjointed... but with purpose. So much so that those are lyrics in 'The Revealing Science of God', which sums up the music of YES with just 4 words.
Oh I get it brother. I understand. It just doesn't have the... framework... as a lot of their older epics did. All the parts were great it just didn't connect with me as much as previous stuff. But after 3 more listens so far, I like it a little more with each listen:)
@@L33Reacts yep. YES music tends to do that to you. It's odd how the disjointed parts seem a little off on first listen, but how as you get used to them, they somehow feel less disjointed. Go figure.
Acompanhe o sentido poético narrado, enquanto escuta a música com o coração, aí verás que é uma obra de arte, que não vai incomodar com as nuances.
Abraço a todos!
this song starts strong for me but i never got the middle and end sections...
As Gary Numan has said in song, "We are embers in the flame, whispers, in God's name"; or maybe we are jewels in God's crown; a Jefferson Airplane song with the line, "We...are the crown of creation", is next in line in my string of associations. Here's a female vocal trance tune you might like from my brief list of favorites from the genre: Solarstone & Clare Stagg - Jewel (Deeper Sunrise Mix), ruclips.net/video/bhvzFf7OITY/видео.html
Yet another Yes JEWEL. Rick: "I think KEYS TO ASCENSION could have been, now looking back, that much more had strong management been in place then, and we recorded in a studio befitting of what Yes should be recording in, because Yes has always pushed its recordings to the limit or always has tried to in the past, and with no disrespect to where we recorded KEYS TO ASCENSION, we were not in a studio where we could push limitations of, "Ah, let's do this and this and that and that." But having said that, it was still a good stepping stone for the band at that time, I think ... the two tracks off of KEYS 1 in certain areas were a little lopsided. But that was understandable because of the nature of how it was recorded; it was done, not in a rush but in a limited period of time and people couldn’t get together."
What Rick said! Damn. He knows. It's his work he would know better then anyone else.
I personally find Homeworld from The Ladder more cohesive. At 9:33 it’s shorter than this one, but it’s still an epic one.
You need to give a listen to Magnification and The Ladder.... great albums...even HomeWorld......
This is probably my favourite of the studio songs on Keys. However, I feel that the music lacked a bit in the production values and poor mixing which gives it a bit of a demo feel. Alan and Chris is my ideal rhythm section. There is an album Alan Whire did with David Torn and Tony Levin. Lots of Improvisations and perhaps gives us a glimpse of how Alan White might have been in King Crimson.
Oooo Alan in crimson.... now thats an idea. I dig it. It does have a demo feel at points but I still enjoyed my experience as usual 😊👍
The KEYSTUDIO mix is a noticeable improvement. Rick added some additional keyboard parts too.
I mostly agree with you, but it works fairly well anyway. And the individual parts are soo cool, especially Steve's stuff. Chris's work is always great but not as prominent here as in a lot of their work. It's just a very eccentric song. A lot of weird time signatures or whatever that are really cool. But still a jewel.
Have to disagree with. This song is a piece of art. Well done. But everyone has their own opinions.
Love 'That, That Is'. I love how different Jon sings here, and as great as Alan is, I think Bruford would've made this even better. Bruford, while not necessarily "better" than Alan, is just a "more interesting" drummer than Alan. Alan rarely changes up the beat like Bill does. Bill would've had a blast playing this piece. I can only imagine what all he would've done with it.
I'm goint to assume you've seen the "Avatar" movies with all of their rock arches and floating pieces of mountains. Roger Dean sued over what he, and a lot of other people, felt was the use of his intelletual property without compensation. Personally, I believe the scenery on Pandora was lifted directly from Dean's work for Yes, but the court ruled against Roger.
I think the best Yes tunes are driven forward by Chris's bass and leading role in transitions, and that is lacking here. Make sure to catch Jon with the Band Geeks while they are touring. Ritchie Castalano is the best Chris Squire on bass and vocals I ve heard and the band is fantastic. Mind drive is next if you are still on the new stuff
dual
"Jewel" 🙂
Honestly, i have the exact same take on this song, cool, but a little disjointed. You have to try Mind Drive though, it hangs together better (at least in my humble opinion) and is also the last long epic they have recorded.
I feel like you’d prefer Mind Drive. Keys 2 should’ve been a standalone album and Rick actually left the band because of it. It’s way more cohesive and fun. Jewel?
More lyrics by Jon than most Yes not that is bad
I enjoy all the parts and the overall energy BUT I agree that it feels disjointed.
All the parts were great in their own right they just didn't connect as well as previous long epics did. But i definitely had a great time with it. This rocks.
Professional Yes brand quality material, but not very inspiring, hurts to say it, being among their very tip top soul mate best-est fans since forever...
Personally, the most weak of the epics of Yes, and Keys 1 studio in general a demo-ish kind of sound. Mind Drive, that's a great song, also all of Keys 2, a much better effort. That that is for me is very frustrating, they still have it, a lot of great ideas that dont needed to be in this one song maybe.
KEYSTUDIO has an improved mix.
I try and like Yes after GftO, but they lost their mojo after that album IMO.
This is basically yes filler I don’t feel like any effort was put into this music or this whole album to be honest it’s just a money grab it sounds like a mix between open your eyes and a BWH Andrson’s lyrics, sound way out of touch and lack of vocal melody that He usually has. This is the era of him just yelling words he did it on open your eyes. He did it on union he did it on this album and to Ascension two, he didn’t really get back into form until the ladder. I really don’t know what squire is doing in this album his baselines are not very cohesive or inspiring and Rick is just there for a paycheck. The only one really playing is Steve Howe and Alan White