Classical Composer Analyzes Kendrick Lamar

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @silentj624
    @silentj624 2 года назад +12257

    I love it when professionals take rap music seriously. It's so weird to me that some people think rap music isn't music.

    • @sentryogmixmaster
      @sentryogmixmaster 2 года назад +65

      because it's not. children tinkering around on computers and adding their nursery rhymes is not music.

    • @silentj624
      @silentj624 2 года назад +3211

      @@sentryogmixmaster okay Ben Shapiro

    • @LSMAFIA160
      @LSMAFIA160 2 года назад +1491

      @@sentryogmixmaster “its not”-🤓

    • @zerois2801
      @zerois2801 2 года назад +843

      @@sentryogmixmaster 🤡

    • @sentryogmixmaster
      @sentryogmixmaster 2 года назад +32

      @@LSMAFIA160 the dog chewed on its collar because it's a dog. it's not a cat so it didn't take its collar up a tree.-🤓

  • @karismadawn
    @karismadawn 6 месяцев назад +3118

    This algorithm working on overtime right now.

    • @maleinamaleina7169
      @maleinamaleina7169 6 месяцев назад +21

      I thought it was just the algorithm in my YT! I was wondering how I got here!

    • @0700andrea
      @0700andrea 6 месяцев назад +3

      Fr

    • @andriuwu4037
      @andriuwu4037 6 месяцев назад +13

      I fr thought it was a recent video until I checked the date

    • @robbiebalboa
      @robbiebalboa 5 месяцев назад +12

      Watching too many “Drake Fall Off” content got me here.

    • @maki9396
      @maki9396 5 месяцев назад +4

      Still! A month later!!

  • @morningowl43
    @morningowl43 6 месяцев назад +1047

    As a music student, I had a talk today with my vocal teacher about how music itself is a language that speaks to all of us through lyrics and through music itself conveying emotions and feelings any and everyone can feel. This lead to a conversation about lyricism which lead to talking about Kendrick Lamar and his Pulitzer and how much of a true accomplishment in modern music this is. Mind you this woman is an opera teacher and she smiles at me and says “I just love Kendrick so much” when i asked her if she had heard of the beef she had no idea about it but when I summed it all up and how he called Drake a PDF file she laughed and said “good for him! Someone needed to do that!”
    This thing is bigger than rap if you’ve got the entire classical and operatic communities talking about this and taking Kendrick’s side. Makes me appreciate music even more. And let’s be real K dot danced on drakes headstone after this latest diss.

    • @kxh3027
      @kxh3027 6 месяцев назад +41

      I love this comment

    • @TamaraGKing
      @TamaraGKing 6 месяцев назад +28

      So cool

    • @isaaaac02
      @isaaaac02 6 месяцев назад +18

      to call someone a pdf file is absolute violation

    • @backyardanimals777
      @backyardanimals777 6 месяцев назад +9

      Thank you for sharing this.

    • @Thomas-nv6ml
      @Thomas-nv6ml 6 месяцев назад +18

      ​@isaaaac02
      It's only a violation if it's not true. Is it true? That is the question.

  • @kelvynification
    @kelvynification Год назад +2862

    To Pimp A Butterfly is not only an unbelievably musical statement but it describes the black experience which elevates it far beyond hip hop or rap. A well deserved Pulitzer Prize winner.

    • @therealmarkzuckerberg
      @therealmarkzuckerberg Год назад +278

      It didn’t win the Pulitzer though DAMN. did

    • @kelvynification
      @kelvynification Год назад +76

      @@therealmarkzuckerberg ok! My bad! But hey!

    • @BrendaGarcia-ty2ml
      @BrendaGarcia-ty2ml 9 месяцев назад +36

      But why do we have to say it “elevates it”? That implies rap is less than.

    • @kelvynification
      @kelvynification 9 месяцев назад +129

      @@BrendaGarcia-ty2ml I know there’s a lot of important relevant social commentary in a lot of hip hop - and a whole lot of blah - but the way Kendrick describes the black experience over a whole album and by using jazz - a part of black music history - as it’s foundation elevates the album above what most other hip hop artists were doing at that time. I’m not denigrating hip hop at all but ‘To Pimp A Butterfly’ is a milestone not only in hip hop but music generally. One of the greatest albums to come out of the last decade IMHO:)

    • @Everhadduckmilk
      @Everhadduckmilk 8 месяцев назад +35

      @@BrendaGarcia-ty2mlyou probably read this comment in the worst way possible smh. Hes saying that the subject matter and the excellence of the record breaks the boundaries that rap and hip hop are bound to. Just stop

  • @silas123781
    @silas123781 2 года назад +13721

    Love how you turned the traditional elitist narrative of classical vs rap music on it's head with "if you want violence, knife crime, and mysogyny you'll have to wait for my video on Berg's Opera"

    • @paulhoban1778
      @paulhoban1778 2 года назад +437

      Yes that one was brilliant!

    • @fideletamo4292
      @fideletamo4292 2 года назад +358

      It's funny how people tend to ignore that some of the genius they like in the elitist classical art would Be criminals or thugs by today's standards..Bach stabbed a man, Caravaggio killed a man..Wagner was a imoral antisemitic bas.tard..etc..

    • @Frijolero18
      @Frijolero18 2 года назад +83

      @@fideletamo4292 Of course they would be, in our backward cancel culture world of today *sarcasm*

    • @cynclairewoods4225
      @cynclairewoods4225 2 года назад +212

      It was hilarious I thought he was going to go into UK drill Music and then bam! Nope lets talk O P E R A

    • @dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821
      @dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 2 года назад +63

      @@fideletamo4292 They was gangsters in that time too.

  • @camron3255
    @camron3255 2 года назад +3719

    The graphics while you’re explaining time signatures are literally phenomenal. It makes it super easy to follow. Thank you for this great video

    • @Gigaamped
      @Gigaamped Год назад +20

      I literally thought this @6:21 This whole video is a work of art in itself

    • @belifuna
      @belifuna 5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree!

  • @sabrinazalar8667
    @sabrinazalar8667 6 месяцев назад +249

    I know of Kendrick now with his songs. If anyone deserves a Pulitzer, it is him. Perfect choice.

    • @rachlync
      @rachlync 6 месяцев назад +4

      Welcome, he’s a treasure

  • @Steventrafford
    @Steventrafford 6 месяцев назад +598

    I feel validated. Never understood why people only listen to particular genres. I love most music I hear.

    • @bluealvey
      @bluealvey 6 месяцев назад +25

      I'm a writer, studio musician. Kendrick is appreciated by any musician worth their salt.

    • @skye4082
      @skye4082 6 месяцев назад +4

      I listen to anything except for music with really loud beats because I get really easily overwhelmed by it but I want to be able to understand the lyrics, and unfortunately for me a lot of rap has REALLY loud beats that drown out the lyrics

    • @MG-hz7wi
      @MG-hz7wi 6 месяцев назад +16

      I know absolutely zero about musical composition. Over my life, I have loved different kinds of music and different songs for different reasons. It's so weird that when I heard Kendrick Lamar I remember thinking that I didn't know why, but I just loved something about the rhythm and the cadence of the lyrics. When you add in what the actual words are saying, it just blows me away. I like some music because it's fun, I like some music because it makes me feel something or reminds me of a certain time, but then there's that music that I like because there's something to it that just seems so much more than I can actually understand. There's only a few compositions or musicians that have made me feel that way, from classical to now. That was the way I felt when I first heard Kendrick lamar, and every other time I've heard Kendrick lamar. Song after song, there's something that just draws me to it, and then when you add in the genius of what he's saying, he just blows me away. I'm a 60 year old white lady by the way

    • @lt.kainjiiva
      @lt.kainjiiva 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@skye4082Really? I understand newer beats to loud, have you looked for the older school ones?

    • @skye4082
      @skye4082 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@lt.kainjiiva not really honestly! My brother listens to a lot of rappers, both mainstream and on SoundCloud, but I guess what he likes is mumble rapping with a super loud beat, which I can’t handle. I’ll definitely look more into that because I am definitely a “I listen to everything” kind of person, but my senses hate me

  • @santiagodiaz-laguna4127
    @santiagodiaz-laguna4127 2 года назад +4924

    Me watching this as a kendrick fan with zero knowledge of music theory: “ ahhh… yes, yes the half time back beat” 🤓

    • @santiagodiaz-laguna4127
      @santiagodiaz-laguna4127 2 года назад +339

      @Camarade Toff ahhh yes yes…. Rhythmic focus 🤓

    • @powerlevelwarrior9572
      @powerlevelwarrior9572 2 года назад +150

      Ahh yes indeed... 🤓
      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @jamesbaden2368
      @jamesbaden2368 2 года назад +27

      @@santiagodiaz-laguna4127 🤣🤣🤣

    • @TankLCDx
      @TankLCDx 2 года назад +93

      im watching and trying to figure out what they're having trouble with lmfao.. bop your head to the damn beat, viola! when it repeats THATS the downbeat!

    • @EniyanValentine
      @EniyanValentine 2 года назад +41

      Splendid! 🤓

  • @GabrielGarcia-u8v
    @GabrielGarcia-u8v 7 месяцев назад +222

    To Pimp A Butterfly is a CLASSIC, will forever stand on its own pedestal aside from every other hip hop album ever made..

    • @TheSpy605
      @TheSpy605 2 месяца назад +2

      Alright is a banger and so is the rest of the album, but I think DAMN. is a better album if I'm being honest. That album just speaks volumes to me.

    • @GabrielGarcia-u8v
      @GabrielGarcia-u8v 2 месяца назад +2

      @@TheSpy605 when DAMN dropped, I played the entire album on repeat, front to back, all night long.. FEAR brought me to tears the first time I heard it, that being said, To Pimp a Butterfly just has such a distinctive soundscape, there is nothing else like it in Hip Hop Music, it really just belongs in its own category, not to compare albums or say one is more impactful than the other or whatever, i just think it’s such a unique album and sound for Hip Hop, I think DAMN brought us back to the roots a bit more, TPAB was pioneering.

    • @KookoCraft
      @KookoCraft 25 дней назад

      @@GabrielGarcia-u8v now do that again but back to front. Different narrative

    • @GabrielGarcia-u8v
      @GabrielGarcia-u8v 25 дней назад

      @@KookoCraft haha i did, multiple times trust me 😅

  • @ClatterUltra
    @ClatterUltra 5 месяцев назад +276

    Kendrick: the man who cannot even be dictated by the beat itself. Man just says his stuff and expects the beat to keep up.

    • @leanio8740
      @leanio8740 4 месяца назад +19

      This is how i felt when i first listened to united in grief. Like how tf is he keeping up w the drums

    • @ugochukwuchristopher8326
      @ugochukwuchristopher8326 4 месяца назад +1

      Exactly

    • @medicationsalutation
      @medicationsalutation 4 месяца назад +3

      This! The 16th note verses made me feel this here: 15:07

    • @Zack-vi7is
      @Zack-vi7is 4 месяца назад +10

      That's what separates Kendrick from 99% of rappers. Most need a beat tailored to their flow. Kendrick can flow over any beat perfectly. Eminem once said it, Kendrick is a chameleon of styles. Most artists are pigeonholed into a particular sound, Kendrick can work with any sound you give him.

    • @tim72
      @tim72 Месяц назад

      Literally! I don't remember where I heard it but someone talked about how the second half of DNA only exists because Kendrick kept rapping the song even though the beat wasn't long enough to fit it, so the producer had to work to create a whole new half to the beat to finish the song. He genuinely kept going when the beat couldn't keep up.

  • @williamk2803
    @williamk2803 7 месяцев назад +2025

    Its absolutely crazy people think Drake can come anywhere close to f'n with Kendrick

    • @davidaugustofc2574
      @davidaugustofc2574 6 месяцев назад +21

      Specially now

    • @BrandonFinley-yk6by
      @BrandonFinley-yk6by 6 месяцев назад +28

      Drake could not.. at all

    • @IPoopMyPantsSomeTime
      @IPoopMyPantsSomeTime 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@lukeshaheenvideo puny brain detected

    • @flysinsoup
      @flysinsoup 6 месяцев назад

      @@lukeshaheenvideoshut up I know you ain’t black by this comment. Kendrick is the culture, Drake a lame always a lame

    • @Nightwan009
      @Nightwan009 6 месяцев назад +82

      ​@@lukeshaheenvideo pfffft 😂

  • @Jarory1
    @Jarory1 Год назад +605

    As a Kendrick fan seeing professional musicians and composers give him (and by extension the genre) a real critical look is quite inspiring and welcomed.

    • @crygonegin7692
      @crygonegin7692 7 месяцев назад +3

      Nas been taught in schools since ducky was serving chicken

    • @superidol238
      @superidol238 4 месяца назад +2

      @@crygonegin7692 bro what schools lmao. I wish my english teacher taught that

    • @jugo1944
      @jugo1944 4 месяца назад

      ​@@crygonegin7692 a lot of people don't get to go to college

    • @lolumad3462
      @lolumad3462 24 дня назад

      @@jugo1944Highschool I had it

  • @JonDenton
    @JonDenton 2 года назад +4658

    I absolutely loved this and learned a great deal. Thank you

    • @thomasoconnor4651
      @thomasoconnor4651 2 года назад +40

      ayeee, it's Jon! Tottally agree with you, very interesting video indeed! Keep up the amazing work and have a good day brother!!

    • @clairedex
      @clairedex 2 года назад +25

      Nice seeing you here, Jon!

    • @IncredibleIceCastle
      @IncredibleIceCastle 2 года назад +1

      Do you have any examples of you substantially criticizing the hip hop you listen to

    • @AdamAdam-md4mi
      @AdamAdam-md4mi 2 года назад +3

      Jon!!!!

    • @ghanagang.d4979
      @ghanagang.d4979 2 года назад +2

      Same

  • @mhck92
    @mhck92 2 года назад +1567

    I love both Beethoven and Kendrick Lamar. There's music for every mood and situation! Sometimes I want to blast Pavarotti in my car, and when I'm at the gym or dancing, I'll listen to the Outkast or Doja Cat. I'm glad for all the diversity of music we get to experience today!

    • @illford
      @illford 2 года назад +80

      I find it funny because I've heard too many rap songs mixed with classical music. I actually think they work oddly well together because Clasiscal music sometimes has this fast but special rhythm that just works with the rappers rhythms

    • @ennuiii
      @ennuiii 2 года назад +37

      @@illford rap is a performance style, given the performer is good enough it can meld with any genre of music tbh

    • @buttermilkjesus8880
      @buttermilkjesus8880 Год назад +7

      i had a phase of putting nessun dorma on repeat for my pr lifts🤣🤣here i was thinking i was the only freak listening to pavarotti at the gym

    • @buttermilkjesus8880
      @buttermilkjesus8880 Год назад +8

      nevermind. i misread. it seems im the only freak listening to pavarotti at the gym 😢

    • @moleedaboi
      @moleedaboi Год назад

      @@illford hip hop thrives off of samples and emulation of other genres and turning them into its own thing.

  • @bluntdavinci2139
    @bluntdavinci2139 6 месяцев назад +74

    I love the way he talks about Kendricks music with so much appreciation

    • @LaniChilds
      @LaniChilds 3 месяца назад

      “Kendrick stole my Pulitzer!!”

  • @InsanityInc100
    @InsanityInc100 2 года назад +2530

    Everybody in the comments talking about how insightful u are on a musical level (I definitely agree), but I wanna mention that u are a top notch RUclipsr as well. Ppl don’t think it’s a skill, but the attention-keeping style of fast but clean edits, obvious background research/preparation, nicely broken up commentary, etc. Shits dope, I’m impressed someone as skilled in a specific field like classical music composition AND well rounded enough to enjoy other genres is ALSO a very skilled youruber

    • @ifeanyii353
      @ifeanyii353 2 года назад +63

      Also his meme selection is top notch. Catch his needle drop ref at the 2 minute mark

    • @IanGonzalezS
      @IanGonzalezS 2 года назад +4

      very well said, noticed that too

    • @undonebyr2205
      @undonebyr2205 2 года назад +1

      ay ay

    • @AudioPervert1
      @AudioPervert1 2 года назад +3

      One has to read Adorno's and Horkheimer's theory of Mass Culture. And Fedric Jameson's theory of Copy Culture Future. Kendrik Lamar or any Hickory Dickory Rap Star - represent more than anything a deep sense of mediocrity, not personally yet as a existing condition, or call it legacy of culture turning into trash. That trash which has no innovation and nor any sustainability. As if a classical composer can deconstruct idiotic simple rhymes which we common musicians can't ?!

    • @dylanpritchard4981
      @dylanpritchard4981 2 года назад +1

      Agreed

  • @TheApostleofRock
    @TheApostleofRock 2 года назад +4064

    TPAB pretty much changed my musical life. I'm a metal head and had to work pretty hard to get out of thinking that rap wasn't music (or at least not music worth anything). Kendrick completely turned that on its head and blew me away. It was also the album that finally got me to start understanding and accept the reality of racism. So thanks Kendrick for a monumentally good and important album.

    • @guts1258
      @guts1258 2 года назад +475

      Glad you were able to face your own cognitive dissonance. Introspection can be a bitch when you have been validated your whole life through echochambers and propaganda. If you listen to a lot of the things some of these great rap artist are trying to say instead of, for example, getting caught up on the prominent usage of the word "nigga",then there is a lot to learn about their outlooks on life, their plights as a marginalized group, and the rich culture they want to preserve that has been systemically stripped away from them.

    • @reefk8876
      @reefk8876 2 года назад +60

      That’s so dope! That’s what hip hop used to be and now it’s one dude in the past 20 years that has that kind of ability. He’s crazy talented.

    • @TokyoBalletReprise
      @TokyoBalletReprise 2 года назад +47

      Ever listened to Death Grips?

    • @CaesarStoneman
      @CaesarStoneman 2 года назад +101

      I had an inverse experience with Black Sabbath. Great music is powerful enough to change perspective

    • @cjgreen4331
      @cjgreen4331 2 года назад +5

      Chad Apostle of Rock and Kendrick

  • @toomuchsalt13
    @toomuchsalt13 2 года назад +3345

    Hip hop has so much more to offer than what people give it credit for.

    • @iraford5788
      @iraford5788 2 года назад +10

      Yep agreed.

    • @Pidea14
      @Pidea14 2 года назад +127

      It's poetry

    • @adrienloridon2425
      @adrienloridon2425 2 года назад +114

      It's quite literally the most popular genre nowadays. Not underrated at all, its given all the credit.

    • @wm_9640
      @wm_9640 2 года назад +96

      @@adrienloridon2425 right. Idk why people still act like rap culture is fighting for everyone’s respect lol. That battle was won years ago

    • @Snowlys
      @Snowlys 2 года назад +4

      Some people like more natural sounds then produced music. Personal preference ….Chase.

  • @DisclosureTV1
    @DisclosureTV1 6 месяцев назад +82

    He is EXTREMELY GIFTED AND TALENTED IN STORYTELLING AND WRITING! He can be extremely deep but can lighten it up and party with the best of them.

    • @jugo1944
      @jugo1944 4 месяца назад +1

      For me he was the hip hop second coming of Christ... It has been a looooooong time since the days of Illmatic and Black on Both Sides. And then came Dot

  • @MarzbarzGus
    @MarzbarzGus 6 месяцев назад +125

    When I was struggling with suicide and a tremendous loss, Kendrick Lamar’s pimp a butterfly and mr morale was a big factor in saving my life. It’s still hard some days but it helps me maintain.

    • @SabiJD
      @SabiJD 6 месяцев назад +3

      Can I ask what was it about TPaB and Mr Morale that resonated so deeply with you?
      I do love how culture/art can have such an effect on our lives. We're continuously surrounded by it, and it's so easy to take for granted - for it to just be background noise. It's easy, and understandable, in terms of how exploited it can all be by corporations.
      But yeah, it can connect with us profoundly. I saw another comment on this video about a metal head being converted to a new genre/culture of music by TPaB, and also how it opened his eyes to structural racism.

    • @dsayvongsa
      @dsayvongsa 4 месяца назад +6

      I’m glad it helped you and that you’re still here. 😊

    • @Mikk2s
      @Mikk2s 3 месяца назад +3

      Bro me too, Mister morale is helping me with panic attacks, the whole last month

    • @marquislovett2987
      @marquislovett2987 2 месяца назад +2

      Praying for you 🙏🏿 lost my pops and surprisingly dot and currency was his only favs from our generation. Mr morale helped me navigate that lost masterfully. Made me have conversations with myself and felt like my dad was present the entire time.
      Keep progressing

  • @wasimhashmi446
    @wasimhashmi446 2 года назад +907

    I think Anderson paak would have a couple of songs in 3/4, he has an elite drumming background too

    • @ILIKEBACON17
      @ILIKEBACON17 2 года назад +12

      That’s that boy Andrew

    • @theviscount4622
      @theviscount4622 2 года назад

      @Nolan Freeman Very true

    • @willmedrano98
      @willmedrano98 2 года назад +8

      @@theviscount4622 Some of those may be more of a 6/8 instead of 3/4

    • @mechasartre3694
      @mechasartre3694 2 года назад +31

      He’s really not underrated in the hip hop community. We’ve largely been advocates for his music for probably five years or so now aha.

    • @Enderrock424
      @Enderrock424 2 года назад +2

      i thought of flobots. At the least Andy has some wacky time feels in his flows but I bet he has at least one song in 3/4

  • @babywithatank9565
    @babywithatank9565 2 года назад +320

    i think TPAB is an album everyone can agree is amazing. Even my dad who is known to dislike 90% of rap music greatly enjoys the jazz elements of the album. Its got something for everyone

    • @Chance57
      @Chance57 7 месяцев назад +7

      Can't believe J Cole tried to sleep on it for even a second.

    • @superidol238
      @superidol238 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Chance57 fr

  • @BernardRandsMusic
    @BernardRandsMusic 6 месяцев назад +88

    I dig how he’s dissecting the song. l’m really shocked at how they had trouble with finding the downbeat for this song.

    • @CharleneMuchunu
      @CharleneMuchunu 5 месяцев назад +2

      Same. I found the one when he asked us to at the beginning

    • @NonexistentFlower
      @NonexistentFlower 5 месяцев назад +21

      I think it's that classical music tends to focus on the downbeat (1) more whereas hiphop tends to be built around the offbeat (3 in this case), so from a classical music perspective the lack of focus on the downbeat kinda probably throws him off

    • @NoConsequenc3
      @NoConsequenc3 5 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah it's all about what we're trained for

  • @limz7ds393
    @limz7ds393 2 года назад +817

    "Music is music"
    I totally agree with this, and being a person who listens to most genre of music. I've learnt that it is a beautiful art and is truly a universal language. Although, I have come across people who are into one genre and won't listen to anything else. Ive come to the conclusion as a parent, that letting my children listen to all genre of music is best. As it gives them the freedom for choice, whether they like a particular song in one genre, or they love a whole genre altogether. In the end, music is music and it should be enjoyed by the many.

    • @theodorealenas3171
      @theodorealenas3171 2 года назад +13

      I'm glad you do that because I was made to taboo most music and now I have to basically discover music from zero in my 20. "Why is this music like this?" "Because it's good music!"

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 года назад +2

      I first heard this phrase in a sample used by Technimatic on their track with the same name - music is music.
      I was lucky to have grown up listening to pretty much every genre possible and my mom encouraged me to explore.
      Unfortunately, during my childhood and early 20s I was surrounded by people who limited themselves to metal or hip hop.

    • @vadim4252
      @vadim4252 2 года назад +4

      I might add that music is only an universal language of you open your ears and leave region based traditions and conventions about what music 'should' be behind.

    • @CompaIMR
      @CompaIMR 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'm glad that my family exposed me to somany genres, and I discovered some more

  • @newdan3469
    @newdan3469 2 года назад +399

    This is sooooo dope!! Musicians taking hip-hop seriously... Breath of fresh air.

  • @jesseveryday3845
    @jesseveryday3845 2 года назад +831

    I am not a musician and have absolutely no knowledge of composition but this was so interesting and easy to follow. Down the rabbit hole I go!

  • @Moschino12123
    @Moschino12123 5 месяцев назад +11

    I love that every random Kendrick video I come across is filled with new comments and people discovering his genius

  • @Iponamann
    @Iponamann 2 года назад +992

    Kanye West’s ‘Spaceship’ is in 6/8 if you’re still looking for a rap song that’s not in 4/4. There’s also Clipping’s ‘Story 2’ which changes time signature every couple of bars. That one is especially cool since he shows off a bunch of flow patterns that could never work in 4/4.

    • @offsetsface2135
      @offsetsface2135 2 года назад +41

      Yeah I thought of spaceship as soon he mentioned rap songs not in 4/4, also “gone fishin” by Captain Murphy is in 5/4

    • @steffenreintgen5999
      @steffenreintgen5999 2 года назад +33

      Also, Pain Everyday on the latest clipping album is in 7. Incredible how Daveed flows over this!

    • @benlusci
      @benlusci 2 года назад +25

      Always love seeing people mention Clipping. Such an underrated group. Too good

    • @chester7744
      @chester7744 2 года назад +2

      Flo bots have a 7/4 rap song too

    • @Drpepper1525
      @Drpepper1525 2 года назад

      Collect calls by Kendrick

  • @fawlen
    @fawlen 2 года назад +95

    Pharrell is a brilliant producer. The amount of thought and craftsmanship put into this track is amazing, creating this huge musically heavy production, yet leaving just enough room for Kendricks lyrics is just a work of art.

    • @Regalman
      @Regalman 7 месяцев назад +1

      Calling Pharrell a brilliant producer is a massive understatement.

  • @sandersnoeren9683
    @sandersnoeren9683 2 года назад +163

    I fucking love your view on music.
    It's lame how many people nowadays dismiss a potential work of art just because its belongs to a certain genre

    • @shadotunga5529
      @shadotunga5529 Год назад

      @Sander Snoeren
      Why you use profanity? Don’t you know that everything we do is sacred? But then, that’s how you beat us, because everything for you is profane. Which brings us _____ to your ill-timed use of profanity.

    • @asamiyashin444
      @asamiyashin444 Год назад

      I don't like that track and most of nowadays hip hop because the rappers sound like little spoiled childs ranting for not getting whatever they want. I feel ashamed when I see a grown person talking like a baby who is learning to talk.
      The chords also tend to be pretty random and too dissonant for my tastes. I also perceive in these tracks some vibes of cluster B personality disorders like narcissism.
      I don't dislike hip hop as a genre. In fact, I like many hip hop tracks from the 80's and the 90's but nowadays stuff seem too dumb for me. It is like post-modern "art". Just narcissistic people wanting to get their narcissistic supply by making themes that stand out just for being weird. The lyrics are also narcissistic and shallow, not to mention the histrionic clothes, tattoos and accessories which are screaming "look at me".
      The bottom line is that many people like me don't dismise this stuff because we are "intolerant", "closed-minded" or because we hate hip hop as a genre. Some of us have plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike certain tracks.

    • @MongerOfStrings8222
      @MongerOfStrings8222 Год назад

      @@asamiyashin444 Yeah, I guess all the Institutionalised racism, Alcoholism and Violence amongst black community are totally "weird" topics to rap about, how "whiny and selfish" of Kendrick indeed.

    • @asamiyashin444
      @asamiyashin444 Год назад

      @@MongerOfStrings8222 I only wrote my impressions. I don't like the narcissism that that kind of subculture transmits me.

    • @MongerOfStrings8222
      @MongerOfStrings8222 Год назад +6

      @@asamiyashin444 Bragging has been a part of rap culture for years, I wouldn't take it too seriously to be honest. No one is actually that self centred, I mean just think of all of the collabs that happen all the time

  • @JordanCWalker
    @JordanCWalker 7 месяцев назад +5599

    Drake aint never have a composer analyzing his shit lol

    • @ShadowT23
      @ShadowT23 6 месяцев назад +163

      On god bro

    • @coolguychapman6685
      @coolguychapman6685 6 месяцев назад +325

      Not much to analyze with lyrics as "fire" as say you a lesbian girl me too

    • @alexgee1151
      @alexgee1151 6 месяцев назад +28

      Yo, are you the same one that went on the Super Bowl halftime show and said Drake ain’t never had a halftime show 😂😂😂

    • @olamideakinola7297
      @olamideakinola7297 6 месяцев назад +72

      Shows how important Kendrick is to hip-hop than Drake and that he was destined for greatness ever since that night at a concert Snoop Dogg, many other artists and the crowd gave him the torch and his flowers to move the game forward.

    • @lxttx12
      @lxttx12 6 месяцев назад +7

      Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • @trianenopenottrian9108
    @trianenopenottrian9108 6 месяцев назад +14

    A man ahead of his time. Two years ago and I'm now seeing this in 2024. I like hip-hop (and some rap) I like classical. RUclips. More please.

  • @DMMA0726
    @DMMA0726 2 года назад +273

    My father is a jazz musician. I started classical piano training at 5, and jazz training at 9, and grew up with music as an inseparable part of my life. All genres. All aged of music. Music is just as essential to my life as water.
    And this video is so timely as yesterday listening to Mr. Morale I was doing a rhythmic analysis in my head and thinking over how the production team so seemingly effortlessly brings forth the music behind the spoken word, which is a rare quality outside of conscious rap it feels like.

    • @ikonmediafilms
      @ikonmediafilms 2 года назад +11

      Listen!, I been listening to the album as well and trying to break it down and realize that it is actually composed like a classical piece. It's like listening to an orchestra. The tracks on the album are like movements in a classical piece.

    • @rajahnicunningham1222
      @rajahnicunningham1222 Год назад +1

      @@ikonmediafilms yes

  • @nickdagreat33
    @nickdagreat33 6 месяцев назад +35

    Now if you could breakdown "not like us" by Kendrick, that would be awesome

  • @pastaboinch
    @pastaboinch 2 года назад +487

    I feel like if you listen to Alright from more the perspective of a DAW using midi notes, you can understand the 4/4 and the chord change choices. When you can visualize rhythms in a DAW and move chords/samples in terms of semitones you can really start to understand Pharrell's process in terms of his musical choices.
    It may seem crazy and weird from a classical music "transcribe everything" point of view, but IMO as someone who is more familiar with tinkering around in DAWs rather than technical music theory, his choices don't seem all that weird. Pharrell himself has talked about how he doesn't think about music in terms of time signatures and technical terms, he just goes more for emotion and feeling. I personally think that's what hip hop really is all about, it's not so much about how this would look transcribed on manuscript paper, hip hop is more about the feeling it evokes.
    It's interesting to see modern Hip Hop analyzed this way, but I also think its sort of a misinterpretation entirely to try to explain "Alright" this way.

    • @lt_johnmcclane
      @lt_johnmcclane 2 года назад +52

      I don’t know what to tell you but this is the way musicians analyze music from a theoretical perspective. It doesn’t mean that they don’t appreciate the other, more evocative aspects as well.
      It’s just a different way of looking at it

    • @tou-send4349
      @tou-send4349 2 года назад +17

      yup this is it. The main snares and kicks are where they‘re “supposed to be“ in hiphop - it‘s just the chords which are in weird places, and as a classical musician that’s what you‘ll focus on.

    • @bananapower2259
      @bananapower2259 Год назад

      very good observation

    • @GruntDestroyarChannel
      @GruntDestroyarChannel Год назад +5

      @@tou-send4349 Are the chords really in 'weird' places though? On my first listen i heard it how everyone else does.

  • @AOWMCREATIVE
    @AOWMCREATIVE 4 месяца назад +41

    I know it's random.. but NO ONE IS BREAKING DOWN DRAKES SONGS LIKE THIS. This is why he's king Kendrick

    • @doodoobrownies5444
      @doodoobrownies5444 2 месяца назад

      How do you break down someone else's music 😅😅

  • @supaflex2857
    @supaflex2857 4 месяца назад +5

    An authentic music enthusiast embraces the beauty of music across all genres.

  • @ozonecandle
    @ozonecandle 2 месяца назад +3

    The moment you realize you're allowed to just enjoy everything humans make freely without judgement, and that sinks in, is a beautiful moment.

  • @spdcrzy
    @spdcrzy 2 года назад +255

    What's funny to me is that because I was trained in classical Indian music and because I've been an Indian classical percussionist for the past 20+ years, the beat was actually extremely straightforward to me - even with the lack of emphasis on the 1 beat, which is actually not uncommon in both singing and percussion as a way of using silence to build tension. Polyrhythms FTW!

    • @saitree3949
      @saitree3949 Год назад +5

      Hello Sai. I'm sai

    • @StalinkTz
      @StalinkTz 9 месяцев назад +10

      as a music producer it was just as straightforward to me lol-
      i don't really know why he had a hard time realising where the 1 was

    • @user-ze7sj4qy6q
      @user-ze7sj4qy6q 8 месяцев назад +25

      ⁠@@StalinkTzprobably his different background. it was clear to me as well cuz i listen to a lot of hiphop, but i also have rock friends and i dabble and we tend to have slightly different analyses of things. and classicals even further removed from that. i don't really think anybody has to be wrong or right abt it, artist intention isnt the only thing that matters in theory.

    • @spdcrzy
      @spdcrzy 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@user-ze7sj4qy6q ehhhhh. I'm rewatching his video and I'm finding it very, very difficult to accept the fact that someone like him can be SO BAD at natural rhythm - ESPECIALLY someone trained in classical music. It's unbelievable that just shifting something by half a beat can apparently throw someone off so badly. Then again, I can understand a song like this just fine: ruclips.net/video/r6tU3GvJ5so/видео.html

    • @JavedAlam-ce4mu
      @JavedAlam-ce4mu 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@StalinkTz I was going to say this. My assumption is that he hasn't heard the song that much. To me it was immediately apparent but I've heard the track so many times, so I assume that's why. Either that or he's trying to use the drums to determine where the first beat is without taking into account the harmony.

  • @whotookthacookie
    @whotookthacookie 2 года назад +596

    You just earned a subscriber. As a longtime fan of hip hop (and really, most genres of music) it feels so nice to see someone analyze this genre with the respect and care that "traditionally" classic or popular genres would get. Too often I've witnessed people dismiss rap because of the blackness associated with it. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.

    • @vasudhacidambi8793
      @vasudhacidambi8793 2 года назад +13

      ^^^

    • @destinixshakur
      @destinixshakur 2 года назад +4

      Love this fr

    • @suspectsn0thing
      @suspectsn0thing 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, I find there are very few genres which don't have at least SOMETHING to offer that I vibe with. My go to response to the "rap is just guns and drugs and killing!!" types is to just send them Kirby by Aesop Rock at this point.
      That, or some of the incredible sci-fi concept albums like Deltron 3030 or Splendor and Misery. It's a shame that most of the exposure people will get to a genre is usually just a super narrow sample of whatever happens to get popular.

    • @suspectsn0thing
      @suspectsn0thing 2 года назад +4

      Also, I always laugh a little at the people who go "Oh yeah I hate country it's garbage" and then will drop whatever they're doing to sing along the moment someone puts on Country Roads or The Gambler.
      I don't even listen to country but c'mon! Even I can recognize that it's a much broader genre than "Boy howdy I sure do miss my ex's pickup truck that I used to keep my fishing rods in"

    • @tz4601
      @tz4601 2 года назад +9

      The irony of white jazz musicians who are dismissive towards rap and hip hop for being black is so powerful, if we could harness it we could solve world hunger.

  • @cliftonsbiehl
    @cliftonsbiehl 2 года назад +2116

    The praise and importance heaped on TPAB is a great thing, but something about it always rubbed me the wrong way as a long time hip hop fan. It's not that the hype was wrong, but I feel like there were a lot of new fans of hip hop going nuts over well-established techniques and influences as if Kendrick introduced them. That this album was a brilliant exception in an overall simple, shallow genre. On the contrary, Kendrick was able to put that album together only because of a lifetime immersed in hip hop music and culture.
    To me, all the things people point out as novel were always things I saw as fundamental elements of hip hop. Jazz influence, spoken word, emphasis on half time beats, unusual syncopation, minimizing parts of the rhythm section to make room for the rapper... That's like what hip hop has been about. Kendrick just knows his shit.
    Subtle changes in vocal rhythm patterns, timing, emphasis, playing past the bar line, swing, even the use of certain phonemes for their rhythmic elements, that's all just flow. It's like the most important part of a rapper's performance.
    In some cases it feels like like hearing someone go wild if a jazz musician played an arpeggio or played with swing. Those are just the fundamentals, bro.
    So people might have all the academic training in the world, but if they haven't even listened to Biggie, for example, they really don't have the grounding in this unique genre to appreciate Kendrick's work in context. Also lyrics, individual words, and vocal sounds are really really really important in quite a lot of hip hop, and I think they're often overlooked by academics or misidentified as shallow by people who don't understand how they are used in the genre. Unlike in other genres, in my opinion, they're really inseparable from the composition.
    To be clear, none of my rant is a criticism of your video. I think you're doing something great shedding some light on the cleverness and subtlety that goes into making good hip hop. And you seem very straightforward in your approach. I'm more pointing out there is another side of the coin in terms of that "classical music nerd" trope that's also annoying: people just dipping their toes in the genre thinking they're seeing the reinvention of the wheel just because it's not what they're used to.
    Academic analysis of hip hop is a good thing (and I have to shout out Martin at rapanalysis.com who has been doing it for years), but I think any worthwhile approach has to involve asking the experts first (and more importantly listening to them), which is why it's always good to have a ?uestlove reference. Just because hip hop hasn't been codified on paper doesn't mean it doesn't take years of specific study to get right, and I do think there are some significant barriers between it and other genres. So I think it's good when people approach it with the proper humility, and I think you're someone who always does this.
    To sum it all up, I feel like hip hop needs it's own version of "The Simpsons did it" meme. If you hear something that sounds new, The Roots probably did it 20 years ago.
    Thanks for the video. Well done.

    • @petercoderch589
      @petercoderch589 2 года назад +24

      The entire argument of your post is made redundant by the fact that TPAB sucks. I don't know any hardcore Hip Hop fan that likes that album. The praise that it receives comes mostly from Hipster white music critics full of white guilt, impressed by it's socially conscious lyrics about a black man's struggles to remain true to himself in a white World. Like that topic had never been done before. The instrumentals of the album dound more like soul and jazz than Boom Bap beats. It's an extremely pretentious album and vastly overrated.

    • @Seebu
      @Seebu 2 года назад +15

      Great comment! I 100% agree.

    • @cliftonsbiehl
      @cliftonsbiehl 2 года назад +226

      @@petercoderch589 lol. I don't agree with you that it sucks, or about hip hop fans, but I do agree with you that it's a lot of white hipsters' first hip hop album. I do think Kendrick is very skilled, but he's not my favorite rapper. Some of that comes down to his voice though.

    • @3ikyy
      @3ikyy 2 года назад +226

      @@petercoderch589 TPAB doesn't suck and I've seen hardcore hip hop fans praise it but you are definitely right about the hipsters liking it

    • @liamernst9626
      @liamernst9626 2 года назад +26

      I don't think it's just fans of other genres, I've seen a lot of mainly rap/hiphop reviewers act like it's brand new concept when it's not really. Still a pretty good album.

  • @Bati_
    @Bati_ 2 года назад +154

    I love how you mentioned Alban Berg's Wozzeck and connected everything with the notion of "music is music". Funnily enough, Berg himself said this to George Gershwin as well. When Gershwin visited Europe to meet Berg in the spring of 1928, he went to the piano to play some of his songs but he hesitated because Berg's "serious" classical work left him awestruck. At that time, Berg looked at him and said: "Mr. Gershwin, music is music." Amazing video as usual David! Kudos to your enthusiasm!

    • @oyisadidishe432
      @oyisadidishe432 2 года назад +7

      Finally someone has said my thoughts. This belittling of genres and the artist in those genres is so dumb. Some of us are not here for that , we just want the music and a good body of work. This belittling gets us nowhere. I believe music is connected for different genres to exists thier was like a genres before that one. I believe music builds from those before but is also innovative.

  • @suspectsn0thing
    @suspectsn0thing 2 года назад +20

    I think it's awesome that the newest generation of music academics seem to be so enthusiastic about fixing a lot of the issues that have plagued music academia. It's often so underequipped to analyse anything outside of classical and jazz music that it'd be easy to just write off the whole field, but it's commendable to see all these people working hard to expand the tools and methods available to better discuss and understand music.

  • @_b_9954
    @_b_9954 2 года назад +72

    Man this is amazing. Kendrick is one of the first rappers I listened too, and his stuff just hits different. Thanks for the vid.

  • @thornthistlepod3150
    @thornthistlepod3150 2 года назад +54

    As an black operatic musician I was stunned hearing your rhythmic analysis. I genuinely can’t comprehend how you heard the downbeat any other way.

    • @jassy2k9
      @jassy2k9 5 месяцев назад +3

      Black with some classical music training and same. This was a fascinating analysis though.

    • @thornthistlepod3150
      @thornthistlepod3150 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​​​@@jassy2k9coming back two years later to say ain't no way lol this is a very simple 4/4 straight through with syncopation in the rap. Otherwise this was cool

    • @allthatsheiz
      @allthatsheiz 5 месяцев назад +1

      I agree I caught the 1 right away 🤷🏾‍♀️ but it’s okay I think. It’s nice to hear him talk about this track

    • @DouradaBambina
      @DouradaBambina 4 месяца назад +1

      I’ve been educated on something new watching this. Please appreciate people.

  • @KuroShiiiiro
    @KuroShiiiiro 2 года назад +160

    Kendrick's discography is... so good. sum like TPAB is a MASTERCLASS of an album. "Alright" is one of the best rap songs ever. hes so good at his art.

    • @paulh3261
      @paulh3261 2 года назад +22

      Good kid MAAD city is my favorite album of his. The storytelling and album sequencing is just incredible. And musicly, it's beautiful and easy to listen to.

    • @TheLily97232
      @TheLily97232 2 года назад +1

      Everything is perfect in his discography. Love his last album too

    • @TheLily97232
      @TheLily97232 2 года назад

      @@paulh3261 me too. I get mental images just by his songs and the sequencing. He's an icon

    • @paulh3261
      @paulh3261 2 года назад +6

      @@TheLily97232 to me, Kendrick is the greatest rapper of all time. Bar none.

    • @Ayo.Ajisafe
      @Ayo.Ajisafe 2 года назад +3

      I like Momma (you aint gotta lie)
      Complexion just blows me away. The whole album is dopeness.

  • @jgwmain
    @jgwmain Год назад +140

    I really admire the fact classical composers are analyzing Kendrick Lamar. Overall, Kendrick did make a huge impact on musicians worldwide.

    • @phasespace4700
      @phasespace4700 Год назад +1

      Made no impact whatsoever. He's not a musician. He's a joke.

    • @thegreatmomba
      @thegreatmomba Год назад +6

      ​@@phasespace4700You hate aimlessly because your life is empty and dull.

  • @indiestripper5374
    @indiestripper5374 5 месяцев назад +8

    To pimp a butterfly was the first hip hop album i listened to in one sitting. Its a masterpiece and in some ways I kinda feel it revived the "album"

  • @thenatureofsound2414
    @thenatureofsound2414 2 года назад +86

    Just started listening to Kendrick's stuff, your video couldn't be more on point! Always love to see the nice positive looking icons in your videos (kick, hihat, snare...) They help me focus when I'm not sightreading. Thank you!

  • @Frost_Byte_Tech
    @Frost_Byte_Tech Год назад +15

    This is so crazy because traditional rap has alot of artists who never go this deep in detail about the process

  • @curist8411
    @curist8411 Год назад +31

    Holy crap i just realized how often pharrell used that type of intro

    • @KarolosOroseira
      @KarolosOroseira 6 месяцев назад +3

      That's his producer tag.

    • @Namisincere
      @Namisincere 3 месяца назад +1

      It's crazy how subtle it is lol.
      If you never told me that was his producer tag, I don't think I would have ever noticed.

  • @Donmarcusiano
    @Donmarcusiano 2 года назад +18

    Having musicians from different genres studying or analyzing your music, means you're the G.O.A.T

  • @TheAnthraxBiology
    @TheAnthraxBiology 2 года назад +269

    I felt the 1 where Questlove felt it the first time I heard it, but that might be because I play jazz and make hip hop. To me it was obvious and the place you were counting the 1 felt really odd. It might be because we're taught in jazz to only count the 2 and 4 and not the 1 and 3 when practicing, and when programming drums in drum and bass or hip hop you learn that the groove actually comes from leaving bits OUT. Funk drummers know this better than anyone, and the heavy funk influence on the album might also contribute to that. Often times omitting a kick or snare on a beat where you expect it makes it groove way harder.

    • @michaelantoun9353
      @michaelantoun9353 2 года назад +17

      Yeah I found it hard to imagine the 1 anywhere else

    • @innesbarrett1805
      @innesbarrett1805 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I felt the same way but I play jazz drums so maybe it's just us :/

    • @maggiesimpsin706
      @maggiesimpsin706 2 года назад +1

      i agree 😭

    • @jeBATMANnna
      @jeBATMANnna 2 года назад +19

      Same, I was confused where he placed the first count. It seemed obvious to me that the choir singing sample was a 4 bar loop and came in on the downbeat. interesting how classically centered musicians internalize the beat so differently from jazz musicians sometimes

    • @evanbelcher
      @evanbelcher 2 года назад +7

      Yeah same, I was so confused when he said there was ambiguity. It's far from a unique rhythm.

  • @MatarikiStarpath
    @MatarikiStarpath 2 года назад +21

    As a classical violinist and lover of many different musical genres I appreciate your work and the depth of your analysis. Thank you for a brilliantly constructed video.

  • @bblaam27
    @bblaam27 2 года назад +62

    Man this is F and crazy I had no idea that his music was this complex I'm just a casual listener and I would have never known that this masterpiece was constructed like this. It just shows the levels Kendricks music is on. Just WoW I'm blown away.

    • @user-oh2mrfeescnu
      @user-oh2mrfeescnu 2 года назад +4

      kendrick is a musical theory master- there’s one song where he counts down from 10, and the syllables In each bar are the current number he counts. there’s a few numbers he skips which appear in the syllables/music. its why his music takes so incredibly long

    • @user-oh2mrfeescnu
      @user-oh2mrfeescnu 2 года назад +5

      It’s not just music- it’s poetry.

    • @chilly_dog8686
      @chilly_dog8686 Год назад

      The entire to pimp a butterfly album is actually structured as a poem!

    • @mrfrostwing
      @mrfrostwing 8 месяцев назад

      @@user-oh2mrfeescnu I honestly think it's impressive he can create this music as fast as he does. He released TPAB 3 years after GKMC.

  • @rod3134
    @rod3134 2 года назад +79

    To put it another way, Kendrick and Pharrell are composing fractically precise, ever evolving poems.. Others call it Rap, some even look down on it. The main point is that he is lyrically composing the life of the individual. That is why so many people resonate with this form of music. Kendrick and Pharrell are the Mozarts of our contemporary era.

  • @DrKoulOfficial
    @DrKoulOfficial 2 года назад +27

    As a Hip Hop artist from a family of classical musicians, I particularly appreciate this. You put so much of what I've struggled to impart to both my Hip Hop peers and my classical music relations into an eloquent and entertaining format. Thank you.

  • @Howtoeatrocks
    @Howtoeatrocks 4 месяца назад +2

    What I’ve always appreciated about Kendrick is that he’s always been very involved with the production and always pays his flowers when it comes to talking about track production. He knows he’s the face, and uses that position to show respect to the whole team. Yes it’s often an all star production team but he’s still showing respect to the whole crew

  • @JackieTheCatfox
    @JackieTheCatfox 2 года назад +99

    I'm noticing that the "ghost notes" on the snare (as Questlove called it) is just an 808 snare, and the snare hit on the downbeat (aside from being programmed with a higher velocity than the other "softer" snare sounds) is layered with a clap in order to accentuate it.
    I'm mainly a rock musician, I don't usually work with samples, so these subtle production tricks in pop and hip hop fascinate me.

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa 2 года назад +12

      Not to be _overly_ pedantic, but yeah, I mean that's literally what ghost notes are: hits on an instrument that are softer than the main hits on the instrument, which are usually done on a snare drum in the drumming world. In this case (which is common with 808 based hiphop beats), the clap is playing the part that the rim would play in producing a rimshot sound on an acoustic snare drum. Gives it that extra crack. So we got an emulated rimshot backbeat with ghost notes in between. The majority of the "drumkit" in this beat (with the exception of the tom fills D believe) is actually samples from an 808 drum machine or software emulating an 808, so it makes sense that the snare ghost notes would be 808 snare hits.
      I'm a bit confused by your use of quotation marks around "ghost notes" and your use of the word "just". The ghost notes ARE ghost notes... in the form of a programmed 808 snare sample.

    • @JackieTheCatfox
      @JackieTheCatfox 2 года назад +2

      @@OdaKa As for the quotation marks: I don't exactly remember why I chose to put them there. I think it's because I wasn't really sure if they were really ghost notes, so I wanted to convey some of that doubt about the correct use of the term?
      And I said "just" because... well, the ghost notes are an 808 snare sample and nothing else. The snare hits that aren't ghost notes (as in, the main snare hits) are layered with a clap as well, therefore not just the snare sample.
      As I said, I'm primarily a rock musician. I usually work with human drummers that play real drumkits, not with samples. I know SOME aspects of drum programming, and I know SOME stuff about 808s, but I'm far from an expert, it's not really my field. This was just the first time I looked at this kind of production so up close, and I'm just noticing this stuff for the first time. For you it may seem obvious, but to me it's something new and exciting, you know :)

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa 2 года назад +1

      @@JackieTheCatfox Ahhh, Okay. I wasn't sure if you were being reductive and dismissive or not, because of the comparison between real drums and drum machines. I did come at it defensively, but not too much I hope.
      Yeah, I would be hesitant to call them ghost notes because, while they're softer than the main hits, they're not _that_ much softer. More like unaccented notes, like a drumline would play. But they rhythmically playing the role of ghost notes in a drumkit context, they're just a bit louder than a live drummer would play them. And hiphop 808 snare hits tend to not have a ton of dynamic range anyway (that's usually reserved for loops sampled from live drummers), so if ?uestlove is calling them ghost notes, I'm inclined to defer to his expertise lol. And my own experience with hiphop drum programming terminology leads me to refer to them as ghost notes too.
      And yeah, I totally get the new and exciting thing! I hope my comments were more helpful than off-putting. The world of hiphop drum machines and samples and loops goes really deep. I appreciate your gracious response!

    • @bigboilover6936
      @bigboilover6936 2 года назад +3

      yes the accent snare is a different 808 trap sound but the main snare isn't layered with a clap, it's just stereo delayed. it's the popular luger snare sound

    • @JackieTheCatfox
      @JackieTheCatfox 2 года назад

      @@bigboilover6936 Oh, nice! Thanks for the correction, it sounded like an 808 clap to me.

  • @blessingoluwole362
    @blessingoluwole362 2 года назад +23

    I love how you taught yourself something about rhythmic cadence through analyzing this song. Good on you Dave, the genuine interest and respect is lovely to see.

  • @aidanallen1976
    @aidanallen1976 2 года назад +14

    Having my muso brother play me alright on his car speakers was the most influential musical experience I've ever had. All the subconscious stigma about rap that I'd inherited from my parents was gone the moment that groove hit me. My brother later gave me a USB of the entire album, and it's probably still my most listened album of all time 6 years later.

  • @StevenTurner-iy2dw
    @StevenTurner-iy2dw 4 месяца назад +3

    This guy is so right. If it wasn’t for Pavarotti hooking up with all his favorite singers in concert, like Barry white, I would have never discovered that opera was something I would like. I never gave it a chance before seeing him in concert with so many familiar names. Definitely made me a fan as well as opening me up to giving every genre a chance.

  • @KasranFox
    @KasranFox 2 года назад +345

    for rhythmically complex hip-hop, you might find clipping to be interesting! story 2 in particular travels through like four different time signatures

    • @iamalittleboat
      @iamalittleboat 2 года назад +36

      Ohh it's way more than four in that particular song, 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, 6/4, 7/4, 8/4, then it goes nuts and I lose count

    • @KasranFox
      @KasranFox 2 года назад +14

      @@iamalittleboat look, im a computer scientist and a musician, i have computers do counting for me so i can't do it by myself

    • @nacirema2710
      @nacirema2710 2 года назад +7

      As well as _The Weather_ by Busdriver, Radioinactive, and Daedelus.

    • @joels5722
      @joels5722 2 года назад

      Beat me to it, it’s like a pendulum. Love that song so much.

    • @YizzERR
      @YizzERR 2 года назад

      @@nacirema2710 +1 for Daedelus!

  • @Jimmy1982Playlists
    @Jimmy1982Playlists 2 года назад +75

    As Duke Ellington said, _"There's only two types of music: that's Good music, and Bad."_

  • @spyral43
    @spyral43 2 года назад +26

    Other comments have mentioned it, but the hip hop group clipping. have a knack for messing around in different time signatures. Story 2 is fantastic with an increasing time signature (2/4, 3/4, 4/4, 5/4, etc.), Pain Everyday is entirely in 7/4, and Story 7 has a section in 15/8, then 21/8, and then into 4/4. They have a lot of cool rhythmic elements to their tracks

  • @yoav19991
    @yoav19991 2 года назад +8

    Topic: awesome
    Modesty: hell yeah
    Background Research: 10/10
    Presentation+editing: phenomenal
    Insightfulness: def wanna learn more now.
    You sir are a pro and have just won a over a super picky subscriber. Whatever it is you're doing, keep it up!

  • @joshforletta7648
    @joshforletta7648 2 года назад +38

    Idk about 3/4 but “Your Prime” is a phenomenal track by Anderson .Paak in 9/8. Definitely the most natural and yet funky 9/8 I’ve heard

    • @tinyking11
      @tinyking11 2 года назад

      That entire album is fire. 🔥🔥😩

  • @DuderDudre
    @DuderDudre 2 года назад +165

    I think that bass hit at 4 as you've identified is part of an extremely common rhythmic clave in rap and particularly trap, where the bass sound is like an 808 bass where you can't tell if it's percussion or not. Like it hits but it also sustains a pitch. anyway in the half-time feel it's 1..... 4.... 2... and-of-3...
    It's so common I'll turn to my buddies at like sports stadiums where a bunch of rap bangers get played and move on those hits, even in songs I've never heard before. I think if you had been more exposed to this, you wouldn't get thrown hearing that bass hit on 4 as the downbeat, because it's like THE groove in a lot of hip hop now

    • @bigboilover6936
      @bigboilover6936 2 года назад +7

      yeah this video just kinda outs him as pretty much never listening to any new rap lol

    • @dodgehattrup4329
      @dodgehattrup4329 2 года назад +1

      Was about to write a way worse version of this comment thank you for explaining this

    • @sabres_fan7467
      @sabres_fan7467 2 года назад +1

      Bruh I was gonna say… the percussion/drums are really nothing special it’s like thee most common pattern in modern rap

    • @mauricemoore.
      @mauricemoore. 2 года назад +1

      my thoughts exactly. the 1 was blatantly obvious to me. All love here but glad i wasn’t the only one that noticed.

    • @oliverbanes5121
      @oliverbanes5121 2 года назад

      Please stop it , you got it all wrong .

  • @BigBlackCrypto
    @BigBlackCrypto 6 месяцев назад +24

    I would love to hear your take on "Not Like Us". In Kendrick Lamar vs Drake feud, Kendrick released a West Coast bop that ultimately won the beef. It was instantly dubbed a classic. He even allowed others to monetize their reactions. Upon its release it was dubbed an instant classic.

  • @Misterboogerbig
    @Misterboogerbig 24 дня назад +1

    The more i watch music related videos the more i realise how complex it is, how insanely good pharell and kendrick are is something which 90% listeners will never even realise

  • @piazzastudios4251
    @piazzastudios4251 6 месяцев назад +6

    A very rare 3 bar hip-hop track (the first if not mistaken) is 'Electric relaxation' by A tribe calle quest. I learned a lot here🙏

  • @versatile3373
    @versatile3373 2 года назад +19

    I find it most interesting the way cadences are created after the track is already finished. You have this completed work from one mind now serving as a foundation for whatever creativity can be applied in how to structure words into the beat. Then when you get several people on the same beat and analyze how their approaches differ, that's when you can truly appreciate what a skilled rapper can do.

  • @ViewtifulSam
    @ViewtifulSam 2 года назад +21

    Incredible stuff, David. I love how you were able to talk about so many different things in a single very well-paced, fun, and informative video. I know I'll be watching this a few more times :)

  • @evanrachelhood
    @evanrachelhood 2 месяца назад +2

    I clicked on the thumbnail because of Kendrick, but you had me at Wozzeck. This channel is for me lol

  • @Zuentax
    @Zuentax 2 года назад +6

    Love that you can actually see and breakdown the art impressive.. crazy that you can put it in a digestible vid

  • @littlehouseinthebigapple5716
    @littlehouseinthebigapple5716 2 года назад +97

    Omg… my blood pressure went up when you were trying to identify the 1. 🤣
    I’m a musician but also a Latin dancer and we can often tell where you come from based on ability to identify timing (although this is changing). Timing creates flexibility (or restrains it) in both music and dance. It’s one of my favorite topics to hear a discussion on.
    To pimp a butterfly truly deserves this kind of attention. Great analysis!
    Ps… I’m trying to put my finger on it, but I believe there might have been some late 80’s hip hop on 3/4, but I’ll have to think about it. 🤔🤔

    • @TheBoogie1127
      @TheBoogie1127 2 года назад +9

      facts, Latin/Caribbean music requires you to have an acute sense of time. it didnt really occur to me how complex the rhythms are in this song bc im used to rhythms crossing over the bar. but after watching the video, i think its necessary for a lot of people into music

  • @rachaeltumer1498
    @rachaeltumer1498 2 года назад +48

    Bro I almost broke out a notebook for notes 😭 felt like I was back in college I love videos like these

  • @progfan234
    @progfan234 2 года назад +31

    As someone who obsesses over time signatures and chord progressions, but who just does not listen to much rap, "Alright" immediately caught my attention. There are two chords in the song. This, in and of itself, would have been a challenge for most producers in this world, but not for Pharell and Sears, clearly. The semitone m9 drop is legendary. I noticed the offbeat 3/16ths as well! Although I didn't think the 3-5 offbeat was as elusive as you made it out to be. The song is replete with verbal syncopation, and I think this is why Kendrick stands out from the rest of the hip hop crowd. Note, also, the more "rustic"/"tribal" (IMO) vocals at "Tell the world I know it's too late" which is based on the Phrygian 7th scale at the backdrop of the more cosmopolitan/contemporary semitone m9 drop. Also, the cosmopolitan/sophisticated flavour of the m9 drop contrasts the dystopian, hopeless theme of the lyrics of the song. The semitone drop is colorful and ornate, but the video is black-and-white and the characters in it basic. Overall, to me, this song is rhythmically, tonally, and thematically unique.

    • @nwut
      @nwut Год назад +2

      i dont understand a single thing fully but thats actually quite amazing...

    • @persona7-7-7
      @persona7-7-7 8 месяцев назад

      ‘Two chords in the song would have been a challenge for most producers’, what are you talking about?

    • @progfan234
      @progfan234 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@persona7-7-7see 10:57 in this video. "The whole chord slides down a semitone". The whole song is just this chord change repeating itself over and over again. Generally, it's not easy to make an outstanding song with just two chords since there's not enough creative space, but I guess that's enough creative space for some :)

    • @AnthonyBlamthony
      @AnthonyBlamthony 6 месяцев назад

      @@persona7-7-7 I’m honestly confused on how it’s not? How is telling the point of view of life through lens that you could never understand(and yes, I’m specifically meeting you because you definitely white with that comment) not deep? Like that genuinely confuses me, you just racist or something?

    • @persona7-7-7
      @persona7-7-7 6 месяцев назад

      @@AnthonyBlamthony or you’re just superficial

  • @grantveebeejay535
    @grantveebeejay535 2 года назад +9

    As a classical musician raised in a non classical music large family I appreciate the crossover here very much. IMO there is much to be inspired by the process of pop and contemporary production moving forward in classical composition and how it might inform some quality innovation in the 'classical' composition world. It's there to inspire if we want to see and if we are creative enough to render it into something new.
    Plus David, nice amp on your hairstyle and production values!!

  • @daisy-td9qs
    @daisy-td9qs 2 года назад +11

    the editing in this video is really clean and dynamic! perfect for emphasizing and illustrating what you were saying

  • @hecksnek6158
    @hecksnek6158 2 года назад +21

    Clipping uses a lot of odd time for a hip hop group. Story 2 uses an incrementing meter, and Break The Glass is mostly in 11/8.
    EDIT: There's also story 7 which is... complex to say the least

    • @apothecurio
      @apothecurio 2 года назад +1

      God ole 15/16 where measures alternate between groupings of 3 and 5

  • @ashaanmodi7978
    @ashaanmodi7978 6 месяцев назад +2

    What an amazing in-depth breakdown of a musical genius. Sometimes I think even Kendrick doesn't realise how much he pushes the boundaries, it's just innate to him. Great video!

  • @OdaKa
    @OdaKa 2 года назад +569

    It's always interesting to see people not from a hiphop background struggle to hear a 4:4 backbeat with a little syncopation.

    • @MiketheNerdRanger
      @MiketheNerdRanger 2 года назад +115

      Yeah it was weird to me that he was confused by this.

    • @scrungly
      @scrungly 2 года назад +56

      RIGHT im like where's the ambiguity

    • @henryhill92
      @henryhill92 2 года назад +58

      Yep, same here. There's absolutely nothing ambiguous about the meter of this track to me. Someone show him some one-drop reggae haha

    • @OdaKa
      @OdaKa 2 года назад +58

      It's also interesting to have the syncopation be academically analyzed to explain how and why the rhythm has the effect it does

    • @JvariW
      @JvariW 2 года назад +38

      YES. and the first thing he said about Kendrick’s music that he likes so much is that it’s Jazzy. Idk about y’all but when I think jazzy I think syncopation

  • @WaveyBavey
    @WaveyBavey 2 года назад +20

    This analysis is super interesting because I've always subconsciously counted 'Alright' the way that Questlove counted it. Idk if it's because I've been a fan of Kendrick for so long, or because I'm not a classically trained musician (it's probably both), but hearing a different perspective on the song like this is really cool.

  • @jayb.5114
    @jayb.5114 2 года назад +12

    Not sure how this ended up on my TL either, but I stayed for this whole episode. Loved it. Could you do more videos like this please?!

  • @juliashouse6161
    @juliashouse6161 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow what an amazing video. I've always loved Kendrick but I never realized just how much thought and creativity goes into making a track. So cool to break down the beat like that to truly understand why is music has such a unique flow!

  • @muela8491
    @muela8491 2 года назад +18

    I really like the way your content is evolving, the editing, diversity of topics and level of research you put into is making me feel like I should be paying for this kind of videos. Please do keep 'em coming. On an unrelated note I'd also love your take on Death Grips' music. Cheers

  • @Anomaliayt
    @Anomaliayt 2 года назад +35

    As a drummer, I found it Interesting to see you interpret it as ambiguous. I really found it hard to hear it the way you did! I appreciate your explanations :)

  • @avenutians
    @avenutians 6 месяцев назад +15

    analyse ‘not like us’ now 😈

  • @93Wande
    @93Wande 4 месяца назад +2

    I love that there are people that can appreciate different types of music. Music is the universal language 😊

  • @Apazon
    @Apazon 2 года назад +4

    This was an amazing analysis. In the Hip Hop and RnB scene, a lot of what you explain are just chalked up to “feeling” and “vibes” so it’s nice to see the truth behind it actually laid out like this

  • @rayhoover9357
    @rayhoover9357 6 месяцев назад +4

    Lets all just admit that Kendrick is a different breed.
    You're eye brows are wild 😂 my guy

  • @_____case
    @_____case 2 года назад +6

    To Pimp A Butterfly is a strong contender for greatest hip hop album of all time.

  • @rashid8646
    @rashid8646 4 месяца назад +1

    You're like a A+ RUclipsr. You nail the exact kind of humor that your accent would make me expect.

  • @MinusMOD98
    @MinusMOD98 2 года назад +7

    This rythmic ambiguity is one of my favourite sensations. You hear the instruments sans percussion, and then the drums hit, you realise "oh, that's where it is".

  • @palefaced1
    @palefaced1 2 года назад +14

    Dude, kendrick is fire as hell. The storytelling, the rhythm, it's on a whole different level. Listen to to pimp a butterfly and tell me I'm wrong.

  • @kond1
    @kond1 2 года назад +12

    The editing in this is brilliant

  • @MsDjphoenix
    @MsDjphoenix 3 месяца назад +1

    I m so happy to see this. I was born in 1960 and we grew up listening to all kinds of music, from rhythm and blues, to classical, to rock, to rap, to Country and Western/Blue Grass, to Pop, to folk, to reggae, etc. It’s lovely.

  • @Csmithphoto
    @Csmithphoto 2 года назад +4

    The information you gave was fantastic. The editing in the video reinforced it so well. The presentation here is high quality, and the edit stands out.