Thanks everyone for the love in the comments 💖 I made a long list of video suggestions, and learned a lot from a bunch of you who took the time to answer my questions. Appreciate you all, and see you in the next video! The Emperor Protects 👍
Pardon me, but I just had to stop by and give you a quick compliment. I love your outfits and your sense of style that you display in your various videos. I think you are very beautiful and I'm always excited to find more women interested in Warhammer 40k! Have a lovely weekend!
When Bricky said that Perturabo is so bitter & petty that he goes full circle to becoming likeable, he meant that you wouldn't hate him all the time despite him being so bitter. Normally, a character like that is someone you'd find really annoying & obnoxious, and while he can be like that, you just can't always hate him with the way he was written. Like, you can respect him at times even.
I personally like Perturabo, my favorite traitor Primarch. He has the most complex characterization and mentality (except maybe Konrad Curze) when joining the Horus Heresy. The others either get corrupted, or had beef with Big E... and got corrupted further. Perturabo drove himself into a hole he felt he couldn't get out of, so he doubled down. A very relatable mistake and mentality to most people, imo.
Yeah, it feels sometimes that he had no choice but to defect cause nobody respected (except 1 other Primarch) him even though he did put his soul into everything he did.
Dude puts down Angron without any major issues and captures him. He also humiliates Dorn. Hell, even his sons who remained loyal are brutally efficient.
To put into prospective why Perturabo is so petty and angry: - You are Rogal Dorn: The Emperor asks you to reinforce Terra, you are happy to do it - You are a Horus: You stomp an Ork empire into the ground so hard, the Emperor makes you the head of the Crusade forever - You are Sanguinius: The Emperor loves you so much, that he makes you his personal advisor - You are Perturabo: You are sent to dig trenches on a Death World covered in Aliens that eat time. 90% of your legion dies, but you do it. Next assignment is digging trenches on the same world again, because the Emperor doesn't love you
He was friend with Vulcan. Vulcan gave him the Robot dog that he smashed on Fulgrim's face (he rebuilt the hound later), and in the latter stages of the Heresy, he built the Labyrinth to contain Vulkan but left a single exit because he liked him
@@DanielDem87 Which part are you asking for proof of, exactly? That Perterabo got stuck fighting the Hrud? That his guys got completely forked in the process? That he blamed the Emperor and felt like he'd gotten the worst possible duty and all his men's lives were wasted on a useless rock? That he was furious over Dorn getting the building job instead of him? I have proofs for all of these, I just need to know which particular one you want. Obviously OP phrased things in a memey manner, because that's how the majority of the 40k community interacts with each other, but it's all grounded in lore from the Black Library. In the video that's being reacted to here, Bricky, who is a notorious meme-poster and hosts a meme-based 40k podcast that's probably the most popular in the fandom, flat out says "like always this is a mix of accuracy and memes... you can infer what I really mean."
Note: the Iron Hands forgot the rest of the quote. They think it’s “the flesh is weak,” when in reality the whole quote was “The flesh is weak, but deeds endure,” carrying a completely different meaning.
That little look Bricky gave after saying Alpharius was the last found primarch is a nod at the fact that he was secretly the first. Its a long but interesting story.
The Alpha Legion is so secretive and confusing that even Tzeentch is totally confused. Everyone is basically Alpharius, posing as Omegon, who is posing as Alpharius, who thinks he is Omegon but is a sleeper Agent faking Alpharius, who is actually Omegon, who is posing as Alpharius, but that's also a lie in the end.
@@BeatmasterAC The secret is they don't even know what they're doing. Some are Loyalist, some are Traitors, some are double agents on both sides and some are waiting with sleeper codes.
Important: Salamanders are nice to the people of the Imperium, the rest get the usual treatment (thought Vulkan regrets killing some Eldar civilian thinking they were Drukhari).
The Alpha Legion initially joined the side of the Traitors believing they could manipulate the entire Horus Heresy to result in the final defeat on Chaos. Thing is, we don't know which side they were ultimately loyal to in the end AND since Alpharius and Omegon are not there anymore there is no way to even know. They were so deep undercover there are different groups of Alpha Legionaries that might be full Chaos, still sort of Loyal or completely doing their own thing.
@andyme3541 Is the thing about one giving to Chaos truly real? I've never seen a source on that but I also haven't read the entirety of the Horus Heresy series. I know that one of them gave an order for one of their operatives to use the code word that would wake up their sleeper agents in the Imperial Palace to join the loyalist side but due to Chaos shenanigans he never got to do that. Also, we know Dorn killed one of the brothers but we also don't know if the other one is alive as there is a story about Guilliman killing "Alpharius" is Eskrador. This goes to the point where even the Alpha Legion in 40k only really knows their Primarchs have not been in contact with them and ultimately act as several completely independent warbands with conflicting ideologies. In Harrowmaster when several of these warbands have a meeting and a member of one them introduces himself as Alpharius then room erupts with laughter from several members of other warbands that see him as living in the past. The same warband mentions they see themselves as still serving the Imperium by testing their defenses, finding weaknesses and exploiting them so the Imperium fuses then, meanwhile justifying killing Imperial forces as culling the weaker elements to make the Imperium stronger, while in the same room there are warbands that funny embraced Chaos and several others that only look out for themselves.
It's entirely possible that the loyalist Alpha Legionaries are actually sleeper agents for Chaos while the traitor legionaries are actually sleeper agents for the imperium.
Picking a legion based on their colors is absolutely a great way to choose your favorite. Each legion (for the most part) has cool lore, but if you are going to paint a legion you want to make sure it is something you will enjoy doing. This is why I chose the Emperor's Children, I just love the way they look.
Dude I can't believe Rogal Dorn killed Alpharius, who was actually Omegon pretending to be Alpharius. And then in order to honor his death brother, Omegon, who is actually Alpharius, decided to change his name to Alpharius.
Yes, Geneseed can malfunction. The seed has a psychic link to their Primarch. Sanguinius wasn't just killed but his soul torn apart by the 4 Chaos gods and only fragments of his soul survived. In contrast with say the Primach Ferus whose soul survived his death (some think he leads the "Legion of the Damned" and army of loyalist ghost Space Marines). So the Iron Hands didn't get that psychic backlash.
Technically it's the Dark Angels who are the jack-of-all-trades. As the Emperor created them as the baseline, all other Legions are modified from them. It's just when they notice a Dark Angel who starts to specialize in something, they put him into a specialist unit. Which was brickys power tool reference. Think of the Dark Angels as have every stat at 7 out of ten, the Ultramarines were modified to have more points in logistics, multitasking, politics and strategising but lost a point in combat abilities, single task thinking, intimidation, secrecy, and stealth As a result. Literally every other Legion is jealous of some aspects of the Dark Angels. Like Legion who aren't experts at swordsmanship can have their best duelist lose to a Dark Angels recruit who is great, but not perfect at nearly everything. The Ultramarines are considered the baseline because they make up approximately 50% to 75% of all loyalist surviving Chapters. With Iron Fists, Blood Angels and Dark Angels being the next three highest geneseed lineages. White Scars and Iron Hands the next tier down. With Space Wolves, Salamanders, and Raven Guard in the lowest tier... because their geneseed was more prone to genetic mutations until the Primaris Marines were created in the year 40,999. Like there was a time the Space Wolves and Salamanders had no successor chapters. Both actually had to be given exceptions when the Legions were split into Chapters, that's how little survivors there where after the Horus Herecy.
Bricky is great as an intro to 40K lore. He has done so much for introducing newbies. Luetin07 is a great creator for deeper lore, and more interesting speculations. Luetin does not do humor a lot, but his lore vids are sooo good. Luetin's atmosphere is much more grimdark. I also like his narration, but I feel that is a more personal thing, so your mileage may vary on that. Luetin and Bricky are also both cool guys who love interacting with their viewers. If someone is interested in 40K I would always recommend them bricky first, and if they are bitten by the 40K Lore bug after that I would recommend Luetin07.
15:20. Somewhat, there were standouts among the traitor legions that stayed loyal but most were killed off during the istvan massacre. The most legendary loyalist marines from traitor legions are the anchorite, he came from the word bearers faction but deserted to remain loyal, he now lives with the church, and a dreadnaught named rylanor, he's one of the emperors children marines who survived the purge and later tricked his corrupted primarch into a trap just to detonate a virus bomb on the two of them ar point blank range just to spite him
About your do over question regarding the Primarchs... well, Ironically you asked this when Fulgram was on screen. Fulgrum had his soul ejected from his body and a demon hijacked that body. Even crazier his soul ended up in a clone body of himself, made by one of his sons who was trying to reverse engineer their uncorrupted geneseed. This clone, often called Clongrum by fans, remembers all the events leading up to his fall and killing his favorite brother. He is insanely regretful and still loyal to his father and the Imperium. The son who cloned him however saw the same character flaw he had back then and feared him falling again. So he trapped him in a status field where time doesn't pass and traded him to a Necron who basically put him in a museum. So Fulgrum could potentially return and get redemption... or a do-over if you will. Further it was once teased the Emperor could restore the brother he killed to life, so maybe that's how he'll one day earn that redemption... but atm, it's a plotline that hasn't gone anywhere in many years (though games Workshop advances the story really slowly so that's not a surprise either)
Fulgrim was possesed by a greater demon that entered him through a Laer Sword, he was not ejected out of his body, he was a prisoner within his own body (after he killed Ferrus Manus) but eventually he was able to reclaim his body and imprison the greater demon in a painting, Fulgrim later became a demon prince during the Angel Exterminatus events. This is what happened in the Horus Heresy books, you should read them.
@@DanielDem87 I don’t know much about them tbh but I’ve seen them get brought up pretty regularly whenever people talk about fulgrim becoming a daemon, I’m not that interested in fulgrim so I never bothered to look into it.
They are literally a PTSD Legion. They are always sad about their primarch and go all out on their enemies. I even heard that Khorne likes them better than the World Eaters.
There is one do-over with the traitor legions, the Thousand Sons had a whole part of their faction that remained loyal and became the Blood Ravens loyalist chapter.
Regarding gene seed malfunction (note: this is strongly implied in lore but not explicit): each of the Primarchs are actually minor Warp Gods that the Emperor got to inhabit bodies he crafted for them to be stable in real space (normally warp entities can’t stay in real space), so the psychic link between Sanguinius and his sons is maintained, but now jacked up because of how he was killed.
@@Knight-Bishop No Brother... We'll get to know them in full detail in our generation. Since Lord Guilliman decreed an order to get every information to all Successor Chapters to reinforce them with our young Primaris Brothers.
Those traitors who stayed loyal and weren't killed ended up becoming the first Death Guard black shields that Titus was in the beginning of Space Marine 2.
This is partly true. Many of them were also simply rolled into other legions. The Ultramarines, for example, took in a large number of the non-traitors from traitor legions.
Ok, Space Marine recruitment; Each chapter/Legion recruitment rituals are different. Today i will pick on... Iron Hands. The Iron Hands have about a dozen worlds that they call "farms". Each Farm is a deathworld where conditions are so harsh that only the strongest can survive. Most of these worlds dont even know they are farms, they have no contact with the outside and often just believe they are alone. But, on an orbital platform, teams of recruitment officers watch. This is step one, survive daily life. The recruitment officers will foment conflict between tribes/states into open war. Often by causing drought or famine and forcing hardships to the extreme. Step two, be a veteran of war. Every prospect is meticulously watched, a single flaw in skill can lead to silent disqualification. Every victory judged, every sacrifice scored. Every single aspect of their lives unknowingly broken down into numbers and ranked. Third step, impress. Once the threshold score is met, in life or near death, the Aspirant is abducted. Taken and gathered with others, swooped off world, and dropped into a recruitment camp. By the thousands, and now, the selection trials begin. Step 4 Ascension. 200 days with death looming every minute. Of the Thousands, only a dozen will survive. These will become neophytes of the chapter. Relegated to the Scout squad, they will be given the basic upgrades of their Legion but not the full space Marine treatment. Their lifespan will be increased, many of their reflexes and enhancements is will also threaten their very lives. But for the most part they are a full survival rate. Step 5, iron and blood Every neophyte will be set under the charge of a veteran. When the population requires a new space, Marine be brought forth, the veterans will gather and vote on the neophytes that are acceptable to receive the gene gift. In a ceremony that requires each neophyte to plunge their right arm into molten iron. They will be given the gene gift and sired as full space Marines. From this point forward, they will be tested in every form of war across the Galaxy. One in a million on a death world will become an aspirant, 1 in 100 aspirants will become neophytes. 1 in 10 neophytes will become space Marines. 1 In 100 space Marines will become veterans. All in all, 1 In 100 trillion is your odds of becoming a veteran space Marine. Hope this helps Cheers -Alpharious-
@ADADEL1 and Jedi train from adolescent and get wasted by a stormtrooper. There are more Space Marines than Jedi. Having thousands of neophytes is a boon. The reclamation of the fallen gear is a higher prerogative then salvaging the flesh. 40k is depressing and we love it! Cheers -Alpharious-
I couldn't disagree more. I don't dispute his knowledge, but I find his academic style insufferably tedious/boring and grossly prefer channels like Baldermort, The Amber King, A Vox In The Void, Warrior Tier, Oculus Imperia, My Name Is Byf, Sandman Of Terra, The Remembrancer and The Book Of Choyer (to name a few) who read with dramatic flair because of this.
Perturabo of the Iron warriors was basically given all the difficult and protracted warzones during the great crusade (the event prior to the Horus Heresy), he wasn't jealous of his brothers, he just hated the fact their incompetence was rewarded despite being worse at fighting wars than he was. He was so good at sieges that in modern 40k the imperium unknowingly uses his tactical philosophies, much like how the imperial cult was written by Lorgar of the World bearers and nobody in modern 40k is aware
The Space Marines can choose to follow their Primarch or the Emperor. When the Heresy happened, there were A LOT of Marines in traitor legions that were loyal to the Emperor and fought their own brothers. One such chad was Rylanor. And he is one of many famous and iconic marines that defied their primarch. I recommend reading Rylanor's story, then listening to Rylanor's Last Stand on youtube.
so many good youtubers to watch but bricky is the best for brand new introductions , getting a feel for warhammer in a entertaining way and i have used him to introduce others
I’d say Brickys four videos about the timeline, the part one and two factions explained, and space marine legions explained really does hit all the starting points in a very easy way while almost every other lore or warhammer info RUclipsr I’ve seen goes way too in depth into specific topics for beginners
If you want to hear Roboute Guilliman say his name, watch the video Warhammer 40k: New Heroes for the Dark Imperium. It's Roboute himself just getting back to Earth after his return and announcing his Mechanichus allies have upgraded Space Marines into Primaris Space Marines, and he's launching a Crusade to take back every planet the Imperium has lost to traitors, heretics, and aliens. Further that he will reinforce every last Space Marine Chapter with new recruits or Avenge any Chapter which was wiped out. And yes, it's mostly because fans made fun of it but being not quite Latin too... a lot of people where Slightly off but thinking they had it right. 😅
If you are interested there is that doctor that goes over the whole process of becoming a space marine with every operation explained and some references of what is „possible“ with our current tech.
Black Templars are from the Imperial Fist legion, not Iron Fists. They refer to each other as the "sons of Dorn", aka Rogal Dorn, the primarch of the imperial fists. pretty extreme reaction to the soundbite when the imperial fists came up. calm down, lol
I really like The White Scar, but The Alpha Legion are my favourite. The possibility that any weird behaviour of any Astartes can be blamed on Alpha Legion sleeper agent is really funny to me.
Emperor of man parts and two of by leutin09. Required viewing for newcomers. Gives you a pretty in depth history of mankind and the imperium. A whole lot more will make sense after watching them. It explains a lot about how the imperium became the way it is now. You asked many questions during this video. Those 2 videos will answer literally like 90% of them. Leutins creation of a space marine will answer the rest. Honestly, watching those emperor of man videos will fill you in on a ton and will help you understand a ton more when watching other videos.
24:50 Because Everybody's Evil Also, a note: You can pick a legion you like lorewise and a colour scheme you like and just paint a Successor Chapter or Warband you make up, you can totally mix and match whatever you desire. (I have pink&teal Salamanders with silver accents, for example)
Since nobody explained properly - the Primarchs were made in a lab under Mount Everest but they got thrown through warp and landed on random planets. At this point they were all demi-gods but they didnt know anything about it so they just lived their lives - generally taking over the planet they were on since they are stronger and smarter than everyone else on it with natural leadership abilities. It also shaped much of their character. For example Lion El'Johnson "grew up" in a forest full of eldrich horrors. Angron got jumped by eldar after his landing, got fucked up by them and caught by slavers after.
one of the clips at the beginning of the Bricky video was an excerpt from a very well loved RUclips series called If The Emperor had a Text to Speech Device. the first few episodes are a bit strange, but the series became a classic as a way to understand the lore of 40K as well as getting an idea of alot of memes and jokes in the community, absolutely a treat to watch if you are interested.
Luetin09 the creation of a space marine is the best to actually learn what a space marine is because i can assure you even with as much as you have dabbled in the lore you have no idea what a space marine actually is. If you want to know how a game is run on the tabletop for a bit of a change i also highly reccomend Vanguard Tactics: How to Play 10th edition video, i would say the best, most concise video out there for beginners wanting to get into the tabletop side of 40k
Space Marines that leave the Imperium but don't necessarily worship/follow Chaos are known as Renegades. Legions/Chapters that are Renegades include the Iron Warriors, the Night Lords and the Knights of Blood - the last one is a Chapter from the Blood Angels, and wanted to fight for the Imperium even when branded as Renegades but was eventually killed off.
10:56 There are 'renegade' chapters of space marines, who have been excommunicated by the Imperium but don't follow Chaos. The Soul Drinkers are probably the most prominent.
The Horus Heresy was a galaxy sized war, it wasn't necessarily one legion loyal/one legion disloyal. There were rogue elements within each legion, some marines from traitor legions fought with the imperium, and some loyalist marines joined Horus, its a very confusing time. Some marines even split off to become "blackshields", marines who abandon and reject their former legion, sometimes creating their own warband and mini empire, some becoming little more than pirates.
Also, the time to make a Spacemarine varies, anywhere from 5 years (after selection) to somewhere around two decades. depends on the chapters traditions, their recruitment and selection process, and how urgent they need new marines. Followed by training time, again can last any amount of time, but usualy ~ 20-50 years
The process of making a space marine takes a couple of years. However, most legions take their prospects very young so one might argue the process is somewhere in between 2 and 20 years.
Someone has probably already mentioned, but just in case… One important factor to know about loyalist Space Marines is that many of their legions were split up after the Horus Heresy… Guilliman thought it best to avoid full legions turning to chaos again, so he encouraged them to split up and form Chapters… I think most legions agreed to it, although I forget if they all did or not… So there are now sub-factions of the original loyalist legions… They tend to follow the theme of a specific legion, but sometimes they have diverged in various ways over the thousands of years since… Example: Black Templars are a Chapter that formed from the Imperial Fists, but they became more religious and became more like their historical namesake… They have some similarities to the original Imperial Fists, but it’s channeled in a different way. This allows for a lot of creativity and you can make up your own chapters… You don’t even necessarily need to choose for them to have one of the loyalist or known Primarchs (although if that’s the case it might need to be part of their lore that the Inquisition either sanctioned it or don’t know)… An interesting chapter to bring up in relation to this might be the Blood Ravens… If I remember correctly it’s a secret who their Primarch is… I forget if even any of them know… I feel like their thing was finding relics to try to discover stuff about their past, but I forget… There are various ways chapters can change over the years, either based on where they recruit from, the state of their supply of geneseed, any kind of culture shift… Maybe their situation or the availability of resources could change things….
In case you don’t know, Guilliman is no longer the only loyalist Primarch to have returned, as Lion El’Jonson of the Dark Angels has returned after waking up from a 10,000 year long nap!
Right before the start of the Horus Heresy, the 9 Traitor Legions got rid of the minority of still loyal Astartes in their ranks, in various ways. Damn you, Erebus.
8:00 space marines start off as regular human children 9 to 10 years old sometimes younger. Space marine chapters go around planets of the Imperium and recruit from the population. Families also willingly let their sons be taken seeing it as a great honour for their sons to be chosen as one of the Emperor's Angels, The Space Marines. But also quite tragic because they will never even see their sons ever again. They either die through the training process or once becoming a Space Marine their whole life is war and to fight the enemies of humanity and to die for their Emperor. Only the Salamanders chapter let their Space Marines visit their human families.
Lot of people do poo poo Bricky's video's but despite whatever inaccuracies they might contain very few other lore tubers are able to present the dense amount of 40k lore in such an entertaining and digestible fashion.
I love the following Loyalist Chapters (in no particular order): - Imperial Fists (especially the Black Templars) - Salamanders - Ultramarines - Space Wolves
There were a lot of loyalist marines in traitor legions. At the very beginning of Horus Heresy 4 traitor legions (Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor's Children and World Eaters) on planet Istvaan 3 purged all who they believed will be loyal to the Emperor. And, for example, amongst Emperor's Children and Death Guard there were abot 1/3 loyalists. And only a handful of loyalists survived and could escape (mostly Death Guard under command of Nathaniel Garro who was one of the chief officers of his legion). Also several thousand of Thousand Sons remained loyal. And few thousand of Iron Warriors. And I think loyalists from traitor legions were probably most cool and badass characters amongs all legionnaires.
So one thing often misunderstood about the Dark Angels is that as the First Legion, they had to be good at everything before all the other Legions were created. Their methods are the blueprints by which all the others follow. They aren't a swiss army knife. They're not one tool that can do many things. They're a toolbox. Each tool only does one specific thing, but they have many different tools for different purposes.
There were marines from traitor legions that defected back to the imperium. Barabas dantioch of the iron warriors wasn’t down with the whole traitor thing and he became a hero of the imperium 😊
Ultramarines did a lot during Horus Heresy. Horus and Lorgar decided to destroy them and they were treacherously attacked by Word Bearers legion and their allies on Calth. They lost near half of their forces but Guilliman survived and attackers were destroyed. Later Ultramar was attacked by other part of Word Bearers legion under Lorgar command, full World Eaters legion with Angron and also Night Lords. Ultramarines defended Ultramar and inflicted heavy losses to traitor legions and their fleets. But Word Bearers created massive warp storm that isolated this part of galaxy from Terra.
Eisenhorn is a great intro to 40K, and Horus Rising is book 1 of the heresy series(kicking off an opening trilogy of novels). And both are by Dan Abnett! He’s the Black Library’s no1 Warhammer writer, since 1999!
Yeah, The 2nd and 11th legions we have no idea what happened to them. Though the 2nd legion might have had something to do with a powerful alien empire the Imperium struggled to deal with during the Great Crusade.
Brickyard is a classic starting point, don’t feel bad about it. Go watch Helsreach. You’ll thank me later. It’s a book turned into an animated film - you want the 2.5 hour one. Note that the animation quality is intended to change throughout the story to reflect the main characters personal evolution. Next steps depend on what kind of content you like, so try each of these creators: Luetin09 - straightforward lore Baldermort - best narrator and writes his own stories to capture the essence of what he’s talking about. Start with his video on The Sensei (which kicks off a massive storyline of his) - unless you like Orks, then start with Kronan (yes, it’s a parody of Conan). All of his videos are great, I literally look forward to them every week. Majorkill - ~10 minute episodes that are heavily tongue in cheek, you’ll love him or hate him Weshammer - both shorts and long format, halfway between Luetin and Weshammer AI: Scholars Lore is the best of these, used to be narrated by a David Attenborough AI voice before he got threatened with a lawsuit All of the others - listen to the first 30 seconds to decide if you’re ok with the voices
Bricky got one thing with the Dark Angels wrong, a pretty obvious one even. They are not "knights of the round table", but more Arch-angel-type of space marines... wich again, is actually pretty obvious - even more so looking at their Names. The Grey Knights are more likely the "knights of the round table"
Making a Space Marine takes about a decade, where a boy (near puberty age) has several surgeries to implant the new organs and undergoes training and psychological indoctrination.
To your question on how long it takes to build a Space Marine: Space Marines recruit from humans, they put 10-ish year old boys though gruelling trials with like, 90% fatality rates. Survive in the toxic wastes of a dead world, hunt a dragon, etc. The survivors get put through a second round of trials to test their minds, spirit, etc. They get started on Space Marine hormones at about 11, just before human puberty would ordinarily start. They can be a few years into puberty, but the further towards adulthood they get, the lower the survival rates are for transitioning into space marines. The next 10-or-so years are spent growing a subcutaneous membrane called the Black Carapace, as well as setting all the organs in place. Third lung, second heart, venom glands, etc. By the time they hit their 20s, space marines who survive the physical implantation, the grueling training, and mental conditioning... get to enter the chapter of Space Marines properly as neophytes (novice/newb). A neophyte serves the chapter (usually in scouting/recon missions, with lighter carapace armor, instead of the full plate that's iconic to Space Marines) for a few decades, sometimes as much as a century. The reasons for how long this takes varies from chapter/legion to chapter/legion. Sometimes it's a question of having a limited supply of power armor/resources to make power armor. Sometimes it's a question of having specific tasks/quests that must be accomplished. Along the process for onboarding, failed transplant recipients, inductees who fail psychological conditioning, or otherwise fail in a way where their body is not outright obliterated or tainted by Chaos or Xenos genetics... the failed aspirant will be lobotomized and turned into a servitor. So it takes about 10 years for most space marines to go from a boy/man-child to a full space marine neophyte, but another 10-100 years for neophytes to become fully inducted.
If you're looking for more warhammer lore channels to watch, my favourites to recommend are "Arch Warhammer" and "The Amber King". Bare in mind that both of them go very deep into the lore and their videos tent to be very long, so they might be a bit too much for you at first, but they are both great in the content they create. If you would like specifics of which videos to start with from both, I'd recommend "Lion El'Jonson - the complete history of the 1st Primarch" (he's my personal favourite primarch) from the Amber King, and "The Blade of Antwyr And The Grey Knights Garran Crowe" from Arch.
You would think that the question "where do they get all these (space marine) organs from anyway?” would have a horrible 40k answer but no, they're just grown either in the marine or a lab.
@@Ashewyn they haven't really advanced on any frontier since the emperor died. They've made one big breakthrough in marine medical tech and everyone is shouting heresy at it.
somebody probably already told the story but well. the primarchs were created by the emperor as tube babies, while in their infancy inside artificial wombs the chaos gods didn't like one bit the amount of power big E was draining from the warp to create those guys, so they warped them to every corner of the galaxy. and so all primarchs got the superman orgin story by crashing as babies on different planet. so basicaly what they would become is mostly due to what they got there in the lottery. guiliman became the adopted son of a julius caesar rip off, and angron was enslaved and forced to fight for his survival every second of his miserable life...
Fun fact: Before Sanguinius came back to his legion, the Blood Angels almost got the 2nd and 11th treatment. They scared everyone, including Night Lords. They were just that horrific. Sanguinius managed to curb this by having them ve constructive with art, smooth jazz, and the like. And then he died, creating a whole new generational trauma.
tbh there's nothing slavic in night lords other than looking kinda dracula like, also iirc every space marine can eat flesh and gain information, not only space wolves p.s. i think it'd be interesting for you to watch Helsreach, it has a good story and insights about how space marines are
As a Slav myself I see absolutely nothing Slavic in the Night Lords. I don't know where did Bricky got it from, but hey, Bricky fucking up the lore is nothing knew
Bricky - great intro. Humor over accuracy. Adeptus Ridiculous podcast with DK and Kyrioth Isyander and Koda - also great humor,slightly more accurate, younger guys, fun and memes Weshammer - great focus on horror stories,higher increased accuracy,fun like Bricky The Remembrancer- HUGE accuracy,major focus on Imperium factions,incredible voice over work Luetin09 - equally huge accuracy, diverse topics, kind of dry, can put you to sleep if you're not careful
Just a reminder: Loyalists: - Imperial Fists; - Ultramarines; - Salamanders; - Blood Angels; - Dark Angels; - White Scars; - Space Wolves; - Iron Hands; - Raven Guard; Traitors: - Sons of Horus; - Emperor's Children; - Iron Warrors; - Death Guard; - Night Lords; - World Eaters; - Word Bearers; - Thousand Sons; - Alpha Legion;
Fel Zharost was a night lord loyalists he was their former Chief Liberian but when he saw how twisted his legion have become he exiled himself from his own and basically become one of the original grey knights chapmaster or founders. Alongside with other loyalists space marines from different legions who renamed themselves by the following names Janus( Revuel Arvida Thousand Sons legion), Epimetheus ( Nemean Dark Angels Legion ), Khyron (Fel Zharost Night Lords Legion), Koios (Tylos Rubio Ultramarines legion), Ogen (is also a nameless space marine from the raven guard), Iapto (Servian from Luna wolves legion), Yotun(Is a nameless space wolf astarte), and Satre (Vandas Ison Blood Angels).
There's a lot to go over, but to answer your question about gene-seed, there are 2 gene-seed organs in every Space Marine that converts them from regular dudes to super soldiers based on the Primarch the gene-seed came from. It's extremely rare and difficult to make new gene-seed, so Space Marine medics (Apothecaries), extract the gene-seed from dead Space Marines so it can be transplanted into a new person to become a Space Marine. Over time, these gene-seeds can become corrupted or degrade. Also, if you're interested in the Blood Angels and Sanguinious, you should listen to the audio of Dante meeting Sanguinious in the afterlife.
18:16 technically each group has a homewold they recruit from, so for the most part you know what legion your joining and what kind of skill set you'll learn towards based on your homeworld
I mean, not all of them are assholes...in a way. If you want hugs, you go to Vulkan. If you just wanna chill and discuss, or even bond, you go Guilliman. If you wanna go to the best drunken party and friend hangout, you go to Russ. You wanna rock out and release your inner lifestyle, you go Corax. So on and so forth.
Perturabo are among the most competent commanders due to his specific talent. The Horus Heresy campaign for the chaos forces would not have been able to break Terra's defences without him, as he was the only one who could spot the tiny weakness, weakness so small due to Dorn of the Imperial fists relentless work to keep them unnoticeable.
"Gene seed can malfunction?" Yeah, people forget that this isn't sci-fi.... it's pure fantasy. So, the psychic shock of losing their Primarch (their "dad") ruined them forever.
41:05 the oldest marine on record is the leader of the blood angels at around 1200 years old. Some dreadnaught marines (the crippled in the mechs) are over 10k years old such as the anchorite or Bjorn the fell handed
Blood Angels have always been my fav. If you are interested in lore I'd recommend the Omnibus, the story about Rafen and his brother is a tragedy and a really good read.
Horus devised a plan to blockade the Ultramarines on the wrong side of the galaxy during the heresy. It’s not that they stood by and watched, they were tricked like every other Loyalist legion
each space marine chapter/legion "owns" it's recruitment/homeworld. they run the place from the ground up. they usually make it a not so great place to live because it produces better potential recruits
Thanks everyone for the love in the comments 💖 I made a long list of video suggestions, and learned a lot from a bunch of you who took the time to answer my questions. Appreciate you all, and see you in the next video! The Emperor Protects 👍
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When Bricky said that Perturabo is so bitter & petty that he goes full circle to becoming likeable, he meant that you wouldn't hate him all the time despite him being so bitter. Normally, a character like that is someone you'd find really annoying & obnoxious, and while he can be like that, you just can't always hate him with the way he was written. Like, you can respect him at times even.
I personally like Perturabo, my favorite traitor Primarch. He has the most complex characterization and mentality (except maybe Konrad Curze) when joining the Horus Heresy.
The others either get corrupted, or had beef with Big E... and got corrupted further.
Perturabo drove himself into a hole he felt he couldn't get out of, so he doubled down.
A very relatable mistake and mentality to most people, imo.
Yeah, it feels sometimes that he had no choice but to defect cause nobody respected (except 1 other Primarch) him even though he did put his soul into everything he did.
Well said. Perturabo is one of the more interesting Primarchs I think.
We stan a king.
Dude puts down Angron without any major issues and captures him. He also humiliates Dorn.
Hell, even his sons who remained loyal are brutally efficient.
To put into prospective why Perturabo is so petty and angry:
- You are Rogal Dorn: The Emperor asks you to reinforce Terra, you are happy to do it
- You are a Horus: You stomp an Ork empire into the ground so hard, the Emperor makes you the head of the Crusade forever
- You are Sanguinius: The Emperor loves you so much, that he makes you his personal advisor
- You are Perturabo: You are sent to dig trenches on a Death World covered in Aliens that eat time. 90% of your legion dies, but you do it. Next assignment is digging trenches on the same world again, because the Emperor doesn't love you
All the while, Peterturbo just wanted to create things.
He was friend with Vulcan. Vulcan gave him the Robot dog that he smashed on Fulgrim's face (he rebuilt the hound later), and in the latter stages of the Heresy, he built the Labyrinth to contain Vulkan but left a single exit because he liked him
Complete fan fiction, can you back this up with actual proof from the books? The answer is no because you do not read the books :)
@@DanielDem87 Which part are you asking for proof of, exactly? That Perterabo got stuck fighting the Hrud? That his guys got completely forked in the process? That he blamed the Emperor and felt like he'd gotten the worst possible duty and all his men's lives were wasted on a useless rock? That he was furious over Dorn getting the building job instead of him? I have proofs for all of these, I just need to know which particular one you want.
Obviously OP phrased things in a memey manner, because that's how the majority of the 40k community interacts with each other, but it's all grounded in lore from the Black Library. In the video that's being reacted to here, Bricky, who is a notorious meme-poster and hosts a meme-based 40k podcast that's probably the most popular in the fandom, flat out says "like always this is a mix of accuracy and memes... you can infer what I really mean."
@@travislynch748 Why can I only like your post once?
Note: the Iron Hands forgot the rest of the quote. They think it’s “the flesh is weak,” when in reality the whole quote was “The flesh is weak, but deeds endure,” carrying a completely different meaning.
Yeah, it was Vulkan that made that lecture to Ferrus if I remember. And that quote did come from him.
@@_spooTAnd Ferrus understood it too and was gonna change his Legion once all the war had died down but oh well.
That little look Bricky gave after saying Alpharius was the last found primarch is a nod at the fact that he was secretly the first. Its a long but interesting story.
@@thekeeper6570 unless he lied about being the first. Because Alpharius doesn't have a deceitful bone in his body....
The Alpha Legion is so secretive and confusing that even Tzeentch is totally confused.
Everyone is basically Alpharius, posing as Omegon, who is posing as Alpharius, who thinks he is Omegon but is a sleeper Agent faking Alpharius, who is actually Omegon, who is posing as Alpharius, but that's also a lie in the end.
@@BeatmasterAC The secret is they don't even know what they're doing. Some are Loyalist, some are Traitors, some are double agents on both sides and some are waiting with sleeper codes.
@@stripeybag6977Confuse your enemy by confusing yourself first is their work motto 😅
Now that they know our plan, they will plan around our plan, then we will plan around the plan that they are planning around our plan.
Important: Salamanders are nice to the people of the Imperium, the rest get the usual treatment (thought Vulkan regrets killing some Eldar civilian thinking they were Drukhari).
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 I mean he still destroyed entire planetpopulations so... 😬
Still nicer than the average legion, so still counts
@@sevatarnightlord2981 should've surrendered
Yeah, imperium simps can't understand this.
@@yaelz6043 You do not need to call "simp" to people who does not understand 40k.
The Alpha Legion initially joined the side of the Traitors believing they could manipulate the entire Horus Heresy to result in the final defeat on Chaos. Thing is, we don't know which side they were ultimately loyal to in the end AND since Alpharius and Omegon are not there anymore there is no way to even know. They were so deep undercover there are different groups of Alpha Legionaries that might be full Chaos, still sort of Loyal or completely doing their own thing.
Further complicated by the fact one of the twins turned to Chaos truely and the other did not, and no one knows which of them is the dead one
@andyme3541 Is the thing about one giving to Chaos truly real? I've never seen a source on that but I also haven't read the entirety of the Horus Heresy series. I know that one of them gave an order for one of their operatives to use the code word that would wake up their sleeper agents in the Imperial Palace to join the loyalist side but due to Chaos shenanigans he never got to do that.
Also, we know Dorn killed one of the brothers but we also don't know if the other one is alive as there is a story about Guilliman killing "Alpharius" is Eskrador.
This goes to the point where even the Alpha Legion in 40k only really knows their Primarchs have not been in contact with them and ultimately act as several completely independent warbands with conflicting ideologies. In Harrowmaster when several of these warbands have a meeting and a member of one them introduces himself as Alpharius then room erupts with laughter from several members of other warbands that see him as living in the past. The same warband mentions they see themselves as still serving the Imperium by testing their defenses, finding weaknesses and exploiting them so the Imperium fuses then, meanwhile justifying killing Imperial forces as culling the weaker elements to make the Imperium stronger, while in the same room there are warbands that funny embraced Chaos and several others that only look out for themselves.
@@ChaoticTabris The answer to your question is that it's the Alpha Legion.
It's entirely possible that the loyalist Alpha Legionaries are actually sleeper agents for Chaos while the traitor legionaries are actually sleeper agents for the imperium.
Picking a legion based on their colors is absolutely a great way to choose your favorite. Each legion (for the most part) has cool lore, but if you are going to paint a legion you want to make sure it is something you will enjoy doing. This is why I chose the Emperor's Children, I just love the way they look.
I started with Night Lords because of the colour scheme, and they're still one of my favourite legions. I recommend the books by Aaron Demski Bowden!
I love TSons for many reasons, but that beautiful shade of blue is definitely one of them.
I went for Emperor’s Children too, not because of the colour, because of the guitars.
@@travislynch748 their whole theme is awesome
My next minis might be based on this actually!
Dude I can't believe Rogal Dorn killed Alpharius, who was actually Omegon pretending to be Alpharius. And then in order to honor his death brother, Omegon, who is actually Alpharius, decided to change his name to Alpharius.
Yes, Geneseed can malfunction. The seed has a psychic link to their Primarch. Sanguinius wasn't just killed but his soul torn apart by the 4 Chaos gods and only fragments of his soul survived.
In contrast with say the Primach Ferus whose soul survived his death (some think he leads the "Legion of the Damned" and army of loyalist ghost Space Marines). So the Iron Hands didn't get that psychic backlash.
Yep. Gene seed malfunctions *all the time*. Like, constantly.
Yeah they just buried themselves in logic and cybernectics. Nothing at all went wrong.
Technically it's the Dark Angels who are the jack-of-all-trades. As the Emperor created them as the baseline, all other Legions are modified from them. It's just when they notice a Dark Angel who starts to specialize in something, they put him into a specialist unit. Which was brickys power tool reference.
Think of the Dark Angels as have every stat at 7 out of ten, the Ultramarines were modified to have more points in logistics, multitasking, politics and strategising but lost a point in combat abilities, single task thinking, intimidation, secrecy, and stealth As a result.
Literally every other Legion is jealous of some aspects of the Dark Angels. Like Legion who aren't experts at swordsmanship can have their best duelist lose to a Dark Angels recruit who is great, but not perfect at nearly everything.
The Ultramarines are considered the baseline because they make up approximately 50% to 75% of all loyalist surviving Chapters. With Iron Fists, Blood Angels and Dark Angels being the next three highest geneseed lineages. White Scars and Iron Hands the next tier down. With Space Wolves, Salamanders, and Raven Guard in the lowest tier... because their geneseed was more prone to genetic mutations until the Primaris Marines were created in the year 40,999. Like there was a time the Space Wolves and Salamanders had no successor chapters. Both actually had to be given exceptions when the Legions were split into Chapters, that's how little survivors there where after the Horus Herecy.
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Bricky is great as an intro to 40K lore. He has done so much for introducing newbies. Luetin07 is a great creator for deeper lore, and more interesting speculations. Luetin does not do humor a lot, but his lore vids are sooo good. Luetin's atmosphere is much more grimdark. I also like his narration, but I feel that is a more personal thing, so your mileage may vary on that. Luetin and Bricky are also both cool guys who love interacting with their viewers. If someone is interested in 40K I would always recommend them bricky first, and if they are bitten by the 40K Lore bug after that I would recommend Luetin07.
9:24 Iron Fists ?! I didnt hear such heresy in the last 10 000 years
15:20. Somewhat, there were standouts among the traitor legions that stayed loyal but most were killed off during the istvan massacre. The most legendary loyalist marines from traitor legions are the anchorite, he came from the word bearers faction but deserted to remain loyal, he now lives with the church, and a dreadnaught named rylanor, he's one of the emperors children marines who survived the purge and later tricked his corrupted primarch into a trap just to detonate a virus bomb on the two of them ar point blank range just to spite him
About your do over question regarding the Primarchs... well, Ironically you asked this when Fulgram was on screen. Fulgrum had his soul ejected from his body and a demon hijacked that body.
Even crazier his soul ended up in a clone body of himself, made by one of his sons who was trying to reverse engineer their uncorrupted geneseed. This clone, often called Clongrum by fans, remembers all the events leading up to his fall and killing his favorite brother. He is insanely regretful and still loyal to his father and the Imperium.
The son who cloned him however saw the same character flaw he had back then and feared him falling again. So he trapped him in a status field where time doesn't pass and traded him to a Necron who basically put him in a museum.
So Fulgrum could potentially return and get redemption... or a do-over if you will. Further it was once teased the Emperor could restore the brother he killed to life, so maybe that's how he'll one day earn that redemption... but atm, it's a plotline that hasn't gone anywhere in many years (though games Workshop advances the story really slowly so that's not a surprise either)
How many retcons did we have before we eventually reached this version of events? I’m not sure but I know it was quite a few.
Fulgrim was possesed by a greater demon that entered him through a Laer Sword, he was not ejected out of his body, he was a prisoner within his own body (after he killed Ferrus Manus) but eventually he was able to reclaim his body and imprison the greater demon in a painting, Fulgrim later became a demon prince during the Angel Exterminatus events.
This is what happened in the Horus Heresy books, you should read them.
@@amelianyoom9545 Can you tell me about the retcons?
@@DanielDem87 I don’t know much about them tbh but I’ve seen them get brought up pretty regularly whenever people talk about fulgrim becoming a daemon, I’m not that interested in fulgrim so I never bothered to look into it.
😰 my god
Blood Angels are my favorite. They're both noble and savage and having to deal with the Rage and the Thirst they're always on notice.
They are literally a PTSD Legion. They are always sad about their primarch and go all out on their enemies. I even heard that Khorne likes them better than the World Eaters.
I just love how from the announcment of Space Marines 2 more people take intrest in the lore and even in the tabletop game.
There is one do-over with the traitor legions, the Thousand Sons had a whole part of their faction that remained loyal and became the Blood Ravens loyalist chapter.
You could watch the Warhammer 9th edition cinematic trailer as its a nice animation showcasing the Sisters of Battle
now this is the content I'm looking for 👀
Regarding gene seed malfunction (note: this is strongly implied in lore but not explicit): each of the Primarchs are actually minor Warp Gods that the Emperor got to inhabit bodies he crafted for them to be stable in real space (normally warp entities can’t stay in real space), so the psychic link between Sanguinius and his sons is maintained, but now jacked up because of how he was killed.
Sandman of Terra is probably my favourite lore youtuber right now, if you want in-depth discussions of topics
Wait till you get to know about the *"Successor Chapters"* in full detail
My Brother in Battle, we haven't the rejuve surgeries for anyone to get to know them in full detail. 💀😂
@@Knight-Bishop
No Brother... We'll get to know them in full detail in our generation.
Since Lord Guilliman decreed an order to get every information to all Successor Chapters to reinforce them with our young Primaris Brothers.
Those traitors who stayed loyal and weren't killed ended up becoming the first Death Guard black shields that Titus was in the beginning of Space Marine 2.
Death Watch.
This is partly true. Many of them were also simply rolled into other legions. The Ultramarines, for example, took in a large number of the non-traitors from traitor legions.
Ok, Space Marine recruitment;
Each chapter/Legion recruitment rituals are different.
Today i will pick on... Iron Hands.
The Iron Hands have about a dozen worlds that they call "farms". Each Farm is a deathworld where conditions are so harsh that only the strongest can survive.
Most of these worlds dont even know they are farms, they have no contact with the outside and often just believe they are alone. But, on an orbital platform, teams of recruitment officers watch.
This is step one, survive daily life.
The recruitment officers will foment conflict between tribes/states into open war. Often by causing drought or famine and forcing hardships to the extreme.
Step two, be a veteran of war.
Every prospect is meticulously watched, a single flaw in skill can lead to silent disqualification. Every victory judged, every sacrifice scored. Every single aspect of their lives unknowingly broken down into numbers and ranked.
Third step, impress.
Once the threshold score is met, in life or near death, the Aspirant is abducted. Taken and gathered with others, swooped off world, and dropped into a recruitment camp.
By the thousands, and now, the selection trials begin.
Step 4 Ascension.
200 days with death looming every minute.
Of the Thousands, only a dozen will survive.
These will become neophytes of the chapter.
Relegated to the Scout squad, they will be given the basic upgrades of their Legion but not the full space Marine treatment. Their lifespan will be increased, many of their reflexes and enhancements is will also threaten their very lives. But for the most part they are a full survival rate.
Step 5, iron and blood
Every neophyte will be set under the charge of a veteran. When the population requires a new space, Marine be brought forth, the veterans will gather and vote on the neophytes that are acceptable to receive the gene gift. In a ceremony that requires each neophyte to plunge their right arm into molten iron. They will be given the gene gift and sired as full space Marines. From this point forward, they will be tested in every form of war across the Galaxy.
One in a million on a death world will become an aspirant,
1 in 100 aspirants will become neophytes.
1 in 10 neophytes will become space Marines.
1 In 100 space Marines will become veterans.
All in all, 1 In 100 trillion is your odds of becoming a veteran space Marine.
Hope this helps
Cheers
-Alpharious-
And still die to a single lucky shot.
@ADADEL1 and Jedi train from adolescent and get wasted by a stormtrooper.
There are more Space Marines than Jedi. Having thousands of neophytes is a boon. The reclamation of the fallen gear is a higher prerogative then salvaging the flesh.
40k is depressing and we love it!
Cheers
-Alpharious-
If you are interested in learning how Space Marines are created then I would check out Luetin09's Space Marine Creation/recruitment video.
@@Fireontire yeah thats a good one
I highly recommend "baldermort's guide to warhammer" 40k's videos on the legions, I suggest night lords :).
Luetin09 is absolutely the best Warhammer 40,000 lore channel out there. Hundreds of hours of incredibly well made content.
@@sindieltaylor2147 Baldermort is a close second though.
I couldn't disagree more. I don't dispute his knowledge, but I find his academic style insufferably tedious/boring and grossly prefer channels like Baldermort, The Amber King, A Vox In The Void, Warrior Tier, Oculus Imperia, My Name Is Byf, Sandman Of Terra, The Remembrancer and The Book Of Choyer (to name a few) who read with dramatic flair because of this.
Amber King is by far the best when it comes to deep lore, Luetin is not close to Amber King's level especially when it comes to lore knowledge.
Perturabo of the Iron warriors was basically given all the difficult and protracted warzones during the great crusade (the event prior to the Horus Heresy), he wasn't jealous of his brothers, he just hated the fact their incompetence was rewarded despite being worse at fighting wars than he was.
He was so good at sieges that in modern 40k the imperium unknowingly uses his tactical philosophies, much like how the imperial cult was written by Lorgar of the World bearers and nobody in modern 40k is aware
For other channels to react to, i recommend Baldermort, Arbitor Ian, Rogue Hobbies, Warrior Tier, and the Remembrancer.
The Space Marines can choose to follow their Primarch or the Emperor. When the Heresy happened, there were A LOT of Marines in traitor legions that were loyal to the Emperor and fought their own brothers. One such chad was Rylanor. And he is one of many famous and iconic marines that defied their primarch. I recommend reading Rylanor's story, then listening to Rylanor's Last Stand on youtube.
Oh now this sounds interesting!
so many good youtubers to watch but bricky is the best for brand new introductions , getting a feel for warhammer in a entertaining way and i have used him to introduce others
I’d say Brickys four videos about the timeline, the part one and two factions explained, and space marine legions explained really does hit all the starting points in a very easy way while almost every other lore or warhammer info RUclipsr I’ve seen goes way too in depth into specific topics for beginners
If you want to hear Roboute Guilliman say his name, watch the video Warhammer 40k: New Heroes for the Dark Imperium.
It's Roboute himself just getting back to Earth after his return and announcing his Mechanichus allies have upgraded Space Marines into Primaris Space Marines, and he's launching a Crusade to take back every planet the Imperium has lost to traitors, heretics, and aliens. Further that he will reinforce every last Space Marine Chapter with new recruits or Avenge any Chapter which was wiped out.
And yes, it's mostly because fans made fun of it but being not quite Latin too... a lot of people where Slightly off but thinking they had it right. 😅
If you are interested there is that doctor that goes over the whole process of becoming a space marine with every operation explained and some references of what is „possible“ with our current tech.
Oh now that is sick
Black Templars are from the Imperial Fist legion, not Iron Fists. They refer to each other as the "sons of Dorn", aka Rogal Dorn, the primarch of the imperial fists.
pretty extreme reaction to the soundbite when the imperial fists came up. calm down, lol
I really like The White Scar, but The Alpha Legion are my favourite. The possibility that any weird behaviour of any Astartes can be blamed on Alpha Legion sleeper agent is really funny to me.
Emperor of man parts and two of by leutin09. Required viewing for newcomers. Gives you a pretty in depth history of mankind and the imperium. A whole lot more will make sense after watching them. It explains a lot about how the imperium became the way it is now.
You asked many questions during this video. Those 2 videos will answer literally like 90% of them. Leutins creation of a space marine will answer the rest. Honestly, watching those emperor of man videos will fill you in on a ton and will help you understand a ton more when watching other videos.
How long does it take to create a space marine?
Approximately 20 years until he's battle ready.
Hellsreach animation is a must.
Uh-oh. Someone gave her, her first taste of “Plastic Crack ” aka Games Workshop minis. 🙀
My favorite 40K creators are baldamort for readings, and isyander and koda for long form content. Would recommend them both lol
Arch Warhammer got some really good and really deep lore dives on stories and events in the 40K universe
Lorgar sits there smiling...while looking over his shoulder scared to death Corax has found him.
24:50 Because Everybody's Evil
Also, a note: You can pick a legion you like lorewise and a colour scheme you like and just paint a Successor Chapter or Warband you make up, you can totally mix and match whatever you desire. (I have pink&teal Salamanders with silver accents, for example)
Eisenhorn is such a good series
Since nobody explained properly - the Primarchs were made in a lab under Mount Everest but they got thrown through warp and landed on random planets. At this point they were all demi-gods but they didnt know anything about it so they just lived their lives - generally taking over the planet they were on since they are stronger and smarter than everyone else on it with natural leadership abilities. It also shaped much of their character.
For example Lion El'Johnson "grew up" in a forest full of eldrich horrors. Angron got jumped by eldar after his landing, got fucked up by them and caught by slavers after.
Angron’s story is actually tragic 😔
one of the clips at the beginning of the Bricky video was an excerpt from a very well loved RUclips series called If The Emperor had a Text to Speech Device. the first few episodes are a bit strange, but the series became a classic as a way to understand the lore of 40K as well as getting an idea of alot of memes and jokes in the community, absolutely a treat to watch if you are interested.
Luetin09 the creation of a space marine is the best to actually learn what a space marine is because i can assure you even with as much as you have dabbled in the lore you have no idea what a space marine actually is. If you want to know how a game is run on the tabletop for a bit of a change i also highly reccomend Vanguard Tactics: How to Play 10th edition video, i would say the best, most concise video out there for beginners wanting to get into the tabletop side of 40k
The deathwatch and grey knights are an extension of the inquisition and are completely separate from the adeptus astartes (space marines).
Space Marines that leave the Imperium but don't necessarily worship/follow Chaos are known as Renegades. Legions/Chapters that are Renegades include the Iron Warriors, the Night Lords and the Knights of Blood - the last one is a Chapter from the Blood Angels, and wanted to fight for the Imperium even when branded as Renegades but was eventually killed off.
10:56 There are 'renegade' chapters of space marines, who have been excommunicated by the Imperium but don't follow Chaos. The Soul Drinkers are probably the most prominent.
The Horus Heresy was a galaxy sized war, it wasn't necessarily one legion loyal/one legion disloyal.
There were rogue elements within each legion, some marines from traitor legions fought with the imperium, and some loyalist marines joined Horus, its a very confusing time.
Some marines even split off to become "blackshields", marines who abandon and reject their former legion, sometimes creating their own warband and mini empire, some becoming little more than pirates.
Also, the time to make a Spacemarine varies, anywhere from 5 years (after selection) to somewhere around two decades. depends on the chapters traditions, their recruitment and selection process, and how urgent they need new marines.
Followed by training time, again can last any amount of time, but usualy ~ 20-50 years
The process of making a space marine takes a couple of years. However, most legions take their prospects very young so one might argue the process is somewhere in between 2 and 20 years.
I like Arbitor Ian when it comes to WH4K youtube channels.
Brothers! Assemble!
Godspeed 🫡
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Favorite: DEATH GUARD, second Favorite: Iron Warriors
Someone has probably already mentioned, but just in case…
One important factor to know about loyalist Space Marines is that many of their legions were split up after the Horus Heresy… Guilliman thought it best to avoid full legions turning to chaos again, so he encouraged them to split up and form Chapters… I think most legions agreed to it, although I forget if they all did or not… So there are now sub-factions of the original loyalist legions… They tend to follow the theme of a specific legion, but sometimes they have diverged in various ways over the thousands of years since…
Example: Black Templars are a Chapter that formed from the Imperial Fists, but they became more religious and became more like their historical namesake… They have some similarities to the original Imperial Fists, but it’s channeled in a different way.
This allows for a lot of creativity and you can make up your own chapters… You don’t even necessarily need to choose for them to have one of the loyalist or known Primarchs (although if that’s the case it might need to be part of their lore that the Inquisition either sanctioned it or don’t know)… An interesting chapter to bring up in relation to this might be the Blood Ravens… If I remember correctly it’s a secret who their Primarch is… I forget if even any of them know… I feel like their thing was finding relics to try to discover stuff about their past, but I forget…
There are various ways chapters can change over the years, either based on where they recruit from, the state of their supply of geneseed, any kind of culture shift… Maybe their situation or the availability of resources could change things….
Oh I like this, interesting way to go about it
In case you don’t know, Guilliman is no longer the only loyalist Primarch to have returned, as Lion El’Jonson of the Dark Angels has returned after waking up from a 10,000 year long nap!
Is this in 41k times?
@@Ashewyn yep In the 41st millennium. The Lion even managed to rehabilitate a large number of the Fallen. Renaming them The Risen!
Right before the start of the Horus Heresy, the 9 Traitor Legions got rid of the minority of still loyal Astartes in their ranks, in various ways.
Damn you, Erebus.
8:00 space marines start off as regular human children 9 to 10 years old sometimes younger.
Space marine chapters go around planets of the Imperium and recruit from the population.
Families also willingly let their sons be taken seeing it as a great honour for their sons to be chosen as one of the Emperor's Angels, The Space Marines.
But also quite tragic because they will never even see their sons ever again. They either die through the training process or once becoming a Space Marine their whole life is war and to fight the enemies of humanity and to die for their Emperor.
Only the Salamanders chapter let their Space Marines visit their human families.
Lot of people do poo poo Bricky's video's but despite whatever inaccuracies they might contain very few other lore tubers are able to present the dense amount of 40k lore in such an entertaining and digestible fashion.
I love the following Loyalist Chapters (in no particular order):
- Imperial Fists (especially the Black Templars)
- Salamanders
- Ultramarines
- Space Wolves
Eisenhorn omnibus ideal to dive in. Good catch!
There were a lot of loyalist marines in traitor legions. At the very beginning of Horus Heresy 4 traitor legions (Sons of Horus, Death Guard, Emperor's Children and World Eaters) on planet Istvaan 3 purged all who they believed will be loyal to the Emperor. And, for example, amongst Emperor's Children and Death Guard there were abot 1/3 loyalists. And only a handful of loyalists survived and could escape (mostly Death Guard under command of Nathaniel Garro who was one of the chief officers of his legion).
Also several thousand of Thousand Sons remained loyal. And few thousand of Iron Warriors.
And I think loyalists from traitor legions were probably most cool and badass characters amongs all legionnaires.
So one thing often misunderstood about the Dark Angels is that as the First Legion, they had to be good at everything before all the other Legions were created. Their methods are the blueprints by which all the others follow.
They aren't a swiss army knife. They're not one tool that can do many things.
They're a toolbox. Each tool only does one specific thing, but they have many different tools for different purposes.
There were marines from traitor legions that defected back to the imperium. Barabas dantioch of the iron warriors wasn’t down with the whole traitor thing and he became a hero of the imperium 😊
Ultramarines did a lot during Horus Heresy. Horus and Lorgar decided to destroy them and they were treacherously attacked by Word Bearers legion and their allies on Calth. They lost near half of their forces but Guilliman survived and attackers were destroyed. Later Ultramar was attacked by other part of Word Bearers legion under Lorgar command, full World Eaters legion with Angron and also Night Lords. Ultramarines defended Ultramar and inflicted heavy losses to traitor legions and their fleets. But Word Bearers created massive warp storm that isolated this part of galaxy from Terra.
If you like green you must love Nurgle.
Eisenhorn is a great intro to 40K, and Horus Rising is book 1 of the heresy series(kicking off an opening trilogy of novels). And both are by Dan Abnett! He’s the Black Library’s no1 Warhammer writer, since 1999!
Dan Abnett is GOAT for 40k books. Aaron Dembski Bowden is also incredible
@ ADB FTW! Night Lords, Talon of Horus, Black Legion, Spear of the Emperor, Helsreach, First Heretic, Betrayer, Master of Mankind - all excellent! 👌
I’m sure people would love to see a book reaction when your done reading. There are so many good books
Yeah, The 2nd and 11th legions we have no idea what happened to them. Though the 2nd legion might have had something to do with a powerful alien empire the Imperium struggled to deal with during the Great Crusade.
Brickyard is a classic starting point, don’t feel bad about it.
Go watch Helsreach. You’ll thank me later. It’s a book turned into an animated film - you want the 2.5 hour one. Note that the animation quality is intended to change throughout the story to reflect the main characters personal evolution.
Next steps depend on what kind of content you like, so try each of these creators:
Luetin09 - straightforward lore
Baldermort - best narrator and writes his own stories to capture the essence of what he’s talking about. Start with his video on The Sensei (which kicks off a massive storyline of his) - unless you like Orks, then start with Kronan (yes, it’s a parody of Conan). All of his videos are great, I literally look forward to them every week.
Majorkill - ~10 minute episodes that are heavily tongue in cheek, you’ll love him or hate him
Weshammer - both shorts and long format, halfway between Luetin and Weshammer
AI:
Scholars Lore is the best of these, used to be narrated by a David Attenborough AI voice before he got threatened with a lawsuit
All of the others - listen to the first 30 seconds to decide if you’re ok with the voices
Space Marine Creation/Recruitment lore video May help answer your question
Bricky got one thing with the Dark Angels wrong, a pretty obvious one even.
They are not "knights of the round table", but more Arch-angel-type of space marines... wich again, is actually pretty obvious - even more so looking at their Names.
The Grey Knights are more likely the "knights of the round table"
Making a Space Marine takes about a decade, where a boy (near puberty age) has several surgeries to implant the new organs and undergoes training and psychological indoctrination.
To your question on how long it takes to build a Space Marine:
Space Marines recruit from humans, they put 10-ish year old boys though gruelling trials with like, 90% fatality rates. Survive in the toxic wastes of a dead world, hunt a dragon, etc. The survivors get put through a second round of trials to test their minds, spirit, etc. They get started on Space Marine hormones at about 11, just before human puberty would ordinarily start. They can be a few years into puberty, but the further towards adulthood they get, the lower the survival rates are for transitioning into space marines.
The next 10-or-so years are spent growing a subcutaneous membrane called the Black Carapace, as well as setting all the organs in place. Third lung, second heart, venom glands, etc. By the time they hit their 20s, space marines who survive the physical implantation, the grueling training, and mental conditioning... get to enter the chapter of Space Marines properly as neophytes (novice/newb). A neophyte serves the chapter (usually in scouting/recon missions, with lighter carapace armor, instead of the full plate that's iconic to Space Marines) for a few decades, sometimes as much as a century. The reasons for how long this takes varies from chapter/legion to chapter/legion. Sometimes it's a question of having a limited supply of power armor/resources to make power armor. Sometimes it's a question of having specific tasks/quests that must be accomplished.
Along the process for onboarding, failed transplant recipients, inductees who fail psychological conditioning, or otherwise fail in a way where their body is not outright obliterated or tainted by Chaos or Xenos genetics... the failed aspirant will be lobotomized and turned into a servitor.
So it takes about 10 years for most space marines to go from a boy/man-child to a full space marine neophyte, but another 10-100 years for neophytes to become fully inducted.
If u want space marine lore deep dive I’d highly suggest luetin video on space marine creation
If you're looking for more warhammer lore channels to watch, my favourites to recommend are "Arch Warhammer" and "The Amber King". Bare in mind that both of them go very deep into the lore and their videos tent to be very long, so they might be a bit too much for you at first, but they are both great in the content they create. If you would like specifics of which videos to start with from both, I'd recommend "Lion El'Jonson - the complete history of the 1st Primarch" (he's my personal favourite primarch) from the Amber King, and "The Blade of Antwyr And The Grey Knights Garran Crowe" from Arch.
You would think that the question "where do they get all these (space marine) organs from anyway?” would have a horrible 40k answer but no, they're just grown either in the marine or a lab.
Lol yeah, it's kind of funny that this Is the truly humane part of 40k. 😅
I love they’ve at least advanced on the medical frontier and aren’t scared of those developments lol
@@Ashewyn they haven't really advanced on any frontier since the emperor died. They've made one big breakthrough in marine medical tech and everyone is shouting heresy at it.
somebody probably already told the story but well. the primarchs were created by the emperor as tube babies, while in their infancy inside artificial wombs the chaos gods didn't like one bit the amount of power big E was draining from the warp to create those guys, so they warped them to every corner of the galaxy. and so all primarchs got the superman orgin story by crashing as babies on different planet. so basicaly what they would become is mostly due to what they got there in the lottery. guiliman became the adopted son of a julius caesar rip off, and angron was enslaved and forced to fight for his survival every second of his miserable life...
Fun fact: Before Sanguinius came back to his legion, the Blood Angels almost got the 2nd and 11th treatment. They scared everyone, including Night Lords. They were just that horrific. Sanguinius managed to curb this by having them ve constructive with art, smooth jazz, and the like. And then he died, creating a whole new generational trauma.
tbh there's nothing slavic in night lords other than looking kinda dracula like, also iirc every space marine can eat flesh and gain information, not only space wolves
p.s. i think it'd be interesting for you to watch Helsreach, it has a good story and insights about how space marines are
As a Slav myself I see absolutely nothing Slavic in the Night Lords. I don't know where did Bricky got it from, but hey, Bricky fucking up the lore is nothing knew
Bricky - great intro. Humor over accuracy. Adeptus Ridiculous podcast with DK and Kyrioth
Isyander and Koda - also great humor,slightly more accurate, younger guys, fun and memes
Weshammer - great focus on horror stories,higher increased accuracy,fun like Bricky
The Remembrancer- HUGE accuracy,major focus on Imperium factions,incredible voice over work
Luetin09 - equally huge accuracy, diverse topics, kind of dry, can put you to sleep if you're not careful
Just a reminder:
Loyalists:
- Imperial Fists;
- Ultramarines;
- Salamanders;
- Blood Angels;
- Dark Angels;
- White Scars;
- Space Wolves;
- Iron Hands;
- Raven Guard;
Traitors:
- Sons of Horus;
- Emperor's Children;
- Iron Warrors;
- Death Guard;
- Night Lords;
- World Eaters;
- Word Bearers;
- Thousand Sons;
- Alpha Legion;
Fel Zharost was a night lord loyalists he was their former Chief Liberian but when he saw how twisted his legion have become he exiled himself from his own and basically become one of the original grey knights chapmaster or founders. Alongside with other loyalists space marines from different legions who renamed themselves by the following names Janus( Revuel Arvida Thousand Sons legion), Epimetheus ( Nemean Dark Angels Legion ), Khyron (Fel Zharost Night Lords Legion), Koios (Tylos Rubio Ultramarines legion), Ogen (is also a nameless space marine from the raven guard), Iapto (Servian from Luna wolves legion), Yotun(Is a nameless space wolf astarte), and Satre (Vandas Ison Blood Angels).
There's a lot to go over, but to answer your question about gene-seed, there are 2 gene-seed organs in every Space Marine that converts them from regular dudes to super soldiers based on the Primarch the gene-seed came from. It's extremely rare and difficult to make new gene-seed, so Space Marine medics (Apothecaries), extract the gene-seed from dead Space Marines so it can be transplanted into a new person to become a Space Marine. Over time, these gene-seeds can become corrupted or degrade.
Also, if you're interested in the Blood Angels and Sanguinious, you should listen to the audio of Dante meeting Sanguinious in the afterlife.
18:16 technically each group has a homewold they recruit from, so for the most part you know what legion your joining and what kind of skill set you'll learn towards based on your homeworld
In Warhammer 40K “Rule of Cool” takes precedence over any other choice. Go with whatever makes you happy
I mean, not all of them are assholes...in a way.
If you want hugs, you go to Vulkan. If you just wanna chill and discuss, or even bond, you go Guilliman. If you wanna go to the best drunken party and friend hangout, you go to Russ. You wanna rock out and release your inner lifestyle, you go Corax. So on and so forth.
BUILD THAT WALL, BUILD THAT WALL, BUILD THAT WALL
Perturabo are among the most competent commanders due to his specific talent. The Horus Heresy campaign for the chaos forces would not have been able to break Terra's defences without him, as he was the only one who could spot the tiny weakness, weakness so small due to Dorn of the Imperial fists relentless work to keep them unnoticeable.
"Gene seed can malfunction?" Yeah, people forget that this isn't sci-fi.... it's pure fantasy. So, the psychic shock of losing their Primarch (their "dad") ruined them forever.
41:05 the oldest marine on record is the leader of the blood angels at around 1200 years old. Some dreadnaught marines (the crippled in the mechs) are over 10k years old such as the anchorite or Bjorn the fell handed
Blood Angels have always been my fav. If you are interested in lore I'd recommend the Omnibus, the story about Rafen and his brother is a tragedy and a really good read.
Horus devised a plan to blockade the Ultramarines on the wrong side of the galaxy during the heresy. It’s not that they stood by and watched, they were tricked like every other Loyalist legion
each space marine chapter/legion "owns" it's recruitment/homeworld. they run the place from the ground up. they usually make it a not so great place to live because it produces better potential recruits
Luetin09 is your next stop for deep lore specially. If you like a good storytelling and keeping facts separated from speculation.