The Problem With Bad Dog Breeding
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2020
- As a professional, do you ever make it your goal to work with people who have completely different viewpoints than you? Here’s what happened when a legendary dog behaviourist, Cesar Millan clashed with a legendary PhD. animal behaviourist Dr. Ian Dunbar! In this vodcast, Dr. Ian Dunbar also discusses why a few bad breeders (not all) are shortening the lifespan🧬of today's dogs.
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I grew up with a labrador retriever that my dad would go hunting with every year. She was an amazing dog. She was very sweet and friendly always great with kids. She was also insanely fit and healthy for a really long time. She would spend whole days duck hunting with my dad multiple times per season in dirty freezing water. She would chase injured ducks down across ponds and swampland until my dad couldn't see her anymore either from the brush or the distance. Then she would swim back with a confused duck in her mouth. She lived to be 13 years old and was an active hunting dog until she was around 9 years old and her sight started to go a little bit. She then lived happily for the next four years until she grew old and passed away. She was a hunting dog longer than many others of her breed tend to live.
The longevity issue has been killing me for some time now. I'm an old grandma and back when I was a kid, it was normal for cats to live to 12-16 years old. Doggos were in the family for more than fifteen years. It was taken into consideration when we got a dog because we needed to prepare for when the kids grew up and left home and then we had our elder family pup. If grandma was 67 years old she might not get a new dog because the dog would outlive her. If she did adopt, a family member was waiting in the wings to take over the care of the animal.
Now, it's rare for a dog to hit ten years old. Cats aren't doing any better. I've been going crazy for the last decade trying to figure out what's going wrong. Are we feeding them slow poison? What's happening?
Until now it never occurred to me that the problem was in the breeding itself. Back in the day, mutts were the solution for bad breeders. We just get a dog with tons of random genes and the bad ones would've sorted themselves out. Now mutts aren't even surviving.
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@morebaloney1539
Agreed, it's all 3 things.
Inbreeding and outcrossing causes genetic problems if done improperly.
Ingredients to medicine and vaccines are now made overseas with little quality control. These things used to be made in America under strict laws.
The dog food is straight-up garbage. Look how bad Mickie D' and T Bell are for us. That shit hardly qualifies as meat. So, what are the dogs getting ? Also, dog food companies are adding chemicals to preserve the food and hormones. These chemicals are also being made overseas by communist. Ya know our arch enemies..
I wonder about the impact of "adopt don't shop" . while it has merits for those who can find decent dogs in shelters, it also hurts responsible breeders.
I was captivated by this interview... such amazing information shared here! Thank you for the great content you produce Rodney! Bravo👏👏🤘
Like kids, dogs need rules and boundaries. Need a proper balance between correction and positive reinforcement.
This was an excellent and very informative podcast. Your Dr guest was absolutely amazing.
Great information 🙏🙏❤️ thank you Rodney!
Very enlightening podcast,great job.
Thanks, good info.
Excellent. Thank you.
Rodney hats off to you for this VERY informative PODcast!! I loved it
i would never step on my dog paws or knee in chest
I don't even have a dog and don't plan to get one either, but this Podcast was amazing an really informative!
I do a bit of both. I will never hit or shock my dog, though. I reward good behavior and when he does something bad (like chew something up or eat something he shouldn't and bark), I look angry and tell him "bad". I also use a clicker.
Ima like this solely for how well run it is and how you take the viewers time and needs in consideration with the edits and layout. Still loved the talk lol.
15:00 would that lead to inbreeding at all? ( Sorry I'm currently studying cosmetic breeding in dogs for my Alevel thesis and it's fascinating)
Me, have a huge issue with the fancy as well. Dogs are sick as well, 2015 Cruffs, German shepherd. Need I say more
Dr. Ian Dunbar I would love for you to offer a MasterClass -- I would sign up in a New York minute!
I completely agree about that dogs live much shorter lives now than before. Now i see dogs at 9 years old that can't even walk properly! When i had my first dog, that was a golden retriever, he was running almost 30km at 9. He died at 15 because he had cancer. But he looked like he was in better condition that does dogs now.
I started out only using positive, but there are certain things that have pushed me to become balanced, that being said, my dog trusts me, I know he does, he hides behind me when someone/something makes him nervous, he also leans heavily against me with his whole body if i'm standing or sitting and insists on being under my chair or close/touching when i'm working (I've accidently rolled over his tail and felt like a heel because of that habit more than a few times ugh.). But i try to be fair about it, he's ecollar trained but i only use the vibration if he doesn't come when called or drop an object that could be dangerous to his health. I use a prong currently but only when i'm in crowded areas and then i have it on a separate leash from the main one and placed high on his neck(wear it should be to prevent injury) and correct him when he tries to jump but leave it loose otherwise, i'm in hopes he wont need it as an adult (once the puppy crazyness dies down) but right now he's almost 70lbs of crazy puppy wanting to jump on people and refusing to hold his licker, he scares people, I dont want him being mistaken for aggressive, so i do what i have to to keep him in line, other wise he's super obedient and sweet, and once he calms down everyone loves him lol.
The best dog trainer ever dr Dunbar 🎉
Thank you this is very informative.Tho Its nice my bog is 14.😁😇👌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks for interview,but will my dog don't get frustrated if we wait to mait till 5to 7 years ,now he is 1 year
Wow this video was so so good, thank you for doing this I do believe that as years pass people are becoming more and more toxic and dogs are getting affected by this.
Loved this guy until he said puppies you buy from a breeder should be chew toy trained toilet trained and lay and sit by 8 weeks 😳 your bloody kidding right does he understand how difficult it is to train a puppy when it has a dozen or more other siblings or if you separate them they just pine for their litter mates and lack the concentration to continue with a task. We toilet train ours and begin with simple techniques by 2 weeks old but we have a litter currently and absolutely can not allow them outside when it’s snowing to toilet train them 🤷♀️ yet I certainly consider myself to be an excellent breeder, we do all health checks we breed and rear naturally we breed to preserve and protect our breed with the hope to improve upon it so does this mean I’m not an excellent breeder 🤷♀️ because my small breed aren’t always able to be toilet trained by 8 weeks I’m sorry but that’s very offensive and ignorant 🤦🏻♀️
I can certainly see that if the process has been started with smaller breeds of dogs that seems ok to me (no expert). We did ask for our pup to stay with the breeder for another 5 weeks (missed the teeny puppy stage). But they had a bunch lovely middle/high school/college age kids who worked with those pups so much. Our Nessie came housebroken, able to sit, fetch, walk on a leash, and have every part of her from her from her feet to teeth to ears able to be handled.
I don’t think she would have been nearly that well behaved at 8 weeks. I only have two dogs but I choose ones that would let them stay up through about 12 weeks (where they still follow their mother out to pee) and they get the socialization in a family life by professionals. I be heard the eind
Skipped to the breeding for short lives and I 100% agree. All the old dogs I know are from working lines or from classic breeds in the uk like Lurcher or Whippet. Saddening breeds like poodles and golden retrievers are dying so young in my life time.
Agree. Also, look at the vaccines and shitty food.
8:10 imo people work too much in the office and so the dog is just stuck at home 😢
How many years we have to wait to breed our golden retriever!?
One of the breeders I follow recommends waiting until the 2nd heat for a female, and I think 18 months for males.
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Never breed dogs that young...
Females 4 or 5 and males 8 or 9 years of age.
@@jaredleicht1656 So waiting until a dog is middle aged or senior is better? Really? The more times a female goes through a heat without breeding the risk for pyometra goes up, which if developed would most likely lead to emergency spaying.
@cfrost87
Not long ago, a ch English pointer was bred at 2 years old. He was a national champion. At 6 years old he developed cancer and was dead by 8.
This dog put his shitty genetics into almost every bloodline of pointer. Now they all are getting cancer young.
So do what you want to dummy.
The most popular training that you didn’t mention was balanced training immensely used, and relies on a balance of the 4 quadrants of training.
There is no such thing as balanced training. There is a dog that learns, and there is a does that does not. Numbers show that Dr.Dunbar's method of training is largely the most effective, and the method of training is simply to observe, objectify, and handle it as it happens so that it will not continue to happen as a cemented trait. We play permanent dog mom. How it's dealt with can vary wildly from various hand gestures and tools being used, but the science is all the same and it's the measure of how engaging and positive it is for the dog in that moment. Creatures respond to all things positive in their own worlds. There is never a place for human to assert dominion over another creature. There is only a place where respect is given and knowledge is applied. All things negative can then safely be eradicated from the picture, and that's entirely what Dr.Dunbar talks about. Anyone that believes there is any other truth to the matter is wrong. It shows constantly in the real world.
Focusing solely on methods of training is wrong. Focus on the science and apply it in your own way provided that it makes sense for you and your dog in particular. You will always be successful in that way as there won't be room for error unless the dog is biologically unsuited for what's being asked of it.
cdwwg that’s doesn’t change the fact that balanced training is a method, that is very much real and used....My comment had nothing to do with dr Dunbar.
@@bitchhp2973 It changes the fact that balanced training makes no fundamental sense. There is a dog that learns, and there is a dog that does not. If he is asked to learn a task, he will learn it through the application of science based training. The method of how the training is applied for each individual dog can be customized, but the fundamental truth to the matter is the same regardless of what training method is used.
Focusing on training methods like that is wrong. Focusing on education leaves no loopholes or flaws unless the dog is biologically unequipped for what's being asked. You and a lot of trainers are focusing on the wrong thing. Focus on what's necessary for the dog, and in providing it through science based methods, you'll never have degrees of success unless biology is playing in to it.
Learn it properly once and you now know enough to have all the freedom in the world to train your dog how you'd like in your own way. Saying "balanced training" is wrong and massively misleading to upcoming trainers. You're teaching the wrong thing.
cdwwg that’s literally how training works....you find what works best for the dog, what motivated it, etc. And then you follow through. You’re telling me I won’t have success when I’ve all ready achieved it.
cdwwg I think your focusing too much in the name and not the results and mindset of the dog, I couldnt care less what you or I call it.
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i like the old bulldog and the new one but i prefer the old one
"Humans are OBSESSED with Neotiony... Just lookit vhat we did to volves!!!"
- The Medic, TF2
Dr.Ian Dunbar is what the world needs now and onwards, not what the world needed in an era of sheer ignorance. As a devout dog lover, couldn't be happier to see him cry over the recognition he's finally getting for all of the things that he's been saying for years now before anyone even knew to be skeptical of any of it. Without him, people wouldn't have learned for themselves. The industry would've been way, way worse than it is now by misleading even more people about all of this and trying to bury it as much as possible.
Must be unbelievably gratifying hearing that his theories are all coming to light finally through cemented sciences.
Due to the topic of this Channel, at first I though you were talking about Ian Billinghurst (the guy who started the BARF diet). XD
So many good Ians in the world! (even the character in my icon is an Ian, and he's an awesome guy)
This is incredibly interesting! Waiting to breed, preserving the seamen a male dog (including the “champions) at 10 is such a good idea.
My choice (and avoidances) of owning certain breeds of dogs was heavy influenced by lifespan. Life is life and death happens when it comes for you- but I just couldn’t pick a breed with and expected lifespan of 6-10.
My aunt had a dog that lived past 20 that was 30 lbs. Lovely sweet “mutt.”
You can't preserve semen past about 5 years old. It's not viable enough to survive the freezing process past that age.
You can change behaviors, you just need to find the key to that animal's way of thinking.
The only good breeder is one that looks at health traits and longevity ONLY. These breeders don't care about purebreds, show traits or staying within breed standards. Their dogs can be very mixed breed, they can be any colour, all that matters is health and longevity and these are the only breeders I respect. Everyone else is trash. Stop breeding unhealthy dogs, smash faced dogs, short lived dogs, dogs that adhere to breed standards, etc... Embrace mixing new genes into dogs instead of locking out new genes by staying "purebred", literally inbred and unhealthy. We would never dare do such a disgusting thing for humans so why do we dare do this to anything else.
Inbreeding causes many genetic problems but so does outcrossing.
Dog food is all junk, so are the treats and the vaccines probably aren't safe.
Just look at the food and vaccines they give to people. You think dogs are held to a higher standard ? The bar is very low...
Feed any dog real table scraps and they will undoubtedly live longer.
Humans are having shorter lifespans, too.
In the US, not every where It’s diet related and the opioid epidemic. With dogs it’s the fancy. They need to take a humble pie and stop the bs they are doing.
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