@@gogetog1065 idk about that. She's much more capable than base Eve. In fact Mark is almost killed protecting Eve in a certain altercation that I want get in to due to spoilers. Tho if it were Anissa instead of Eve Mark would have just died so there's an argument as to who's more useful. Not too mention, oh idk Anissa fucking raped Mark so I think Eve is the better partner 100%
It is. Men are put in an unfair position where they’re not supposed to talk about it, and even Mark doesn’t really know how to address the situation. This is one of the ways masculinity can be made toxic.
Well eventually he did but Nolan was like " Ohhh.......yea that's kinda of our culture sorry about that but hey we're all changing thanks to earth and she got a whole family now, shit is old" lol
I like the subtle details that show how much stronger and more durable they are than their environment. Like when mark slammed her against the wall, the wall literally cratered but she didn’t react at all
I have a feeling that when she gets adapted into the show, she’s either going to sound like an older Azula from Avatar or be given this very deep and domineering Russian accent.
From how she made it sound that’s how all viltrumites do things back home, she didn’t even see what she did as rape until she lived with a human and learned to love
@@julianadams3710 Like almost every other species/society: It might seem horrible and barbaric by our standards (humans), but to them? It's just a way of life. Not saying it's right mind you, but Anissa just saw it as something that needed to be done.
@@windghost2 yes? My memory is a bit hazy but if you really want a clear answer read the comic. It’s during the final battle with Thragg I think. Basically, as stated above, she settled down with a human and realized what she did to Mark and tried apologize to him a LOT. Mark told Eve what happened, she flipped on her, then Eve told Omni Dad what happened, he flipped on her, but big battle coming, bla bla bla, we ALL got shit to do so they put aside and go do said shit.
I don’t like that this is a “I’d take marks place” only because she’s attractive. This is legit rape. It’s a serious topic that the comic touched on because we don’t hear of men being raped by women. If the roles were reversed there wouldn’t be any jokes…
@@bazarovmedic4807 But that doesn't make rape against them, which by definition isn't wanted, any less serious. There are plenty of women out there with very high sex drives, but that doesn't ever cheapen their consent nor justify treating it as a given until proven otherwise.
@@bazarovmedic4807 what I mean really. Both genders have same attraction towards each other naturally so by your logic it's fine by both sides. Also we gave forced mating a name because of higher intelligence, it literally happens every day in nature .
@@loserinasuit7880 It really wouldn’t have, it’s not immature to call out someone’s bullshit. Calling someone’s bullshit out would probably strengthen their perspective before they talk next time
With everything he's been through in his life in the comics, Mark just needs a hug and discovering he has so many people who love him and feel inspired by his indomitable spirit.
I am surprised he did not tell his mother before leaving Earth( he could have told his mom a female viltrumite raped me and wants to do it multiple times that is the real reason I want to leave Earth with EVE AND TERRA.)
If my poor boy Mark had been emotionally fine that damn day I'm sure all the Viltrumites would have had to go on a search mission to find the parts of anissa all over the globe
What makes Amber so hated is that we all know an Amber in our lives, we can relate. We don't have a superpowered alien who beat us to an inch of death or raped us. Same reason why Dolores Umbridge was more hated than Voldermort among the HP fandom.
Nah. I think they will be equally hated if not Amber more because even though there are people like Anissa who are literally "Do it harder daddy" personified but 10 times worse than that, it seems like Anissa is gonna be an important character. Also she's a Viltrumite. Like Omni-Man she probably grew up thinking that "Im stronger than you so l dominate you and your a lesser being than me" so it's understandble why she would be bat-shit insane like this. Like Omni-man she probably could meet an earthling that changes her view on life and actually grow as a character. Where-as Amber's case was just so unreasonable. "I knew you were a super-hero for weeks and you had to keep it a secret from me to keep the both of us safe, but why did you run away at the campus even though l knew you were right their trying to save William?" like bro? What the fuck type of logic is that?
@@LzOhaiF honestly I think women would only ever 'joke' about it as a sarcastic response to the comments guys make to female rape victims sometimes. Things like 'what was he wearing though'. It really sucks but tbh it's most likely gonna be men who say shit like 'I bet he enjoyed it, it was so hot, I wish I was him, he's weak, women can't rape men'
@@LzOhaiF Its not women who jokes about guys being raped, it's always other Men who jokes about this saying that he liked because every Men would like a " hottie " coming after him and that no Men is raped because they all like It otherwise no woman can ever dominate a Man without him letting.
Why tf are people glorifying what happened to Mark? Saying that "well she's attractive" or "he got lucky. Wish i could clap some cheeks." It's freaking disgusting! She didn't have sex with Mark, she RAPED him. Which CAN happen to men by women. It's downgrading comments like that which make male rape victims, when their attacker was a female, less likely to open up about what happened. They get met with such disgusting words like that. Women CAN rape men and may get away with it more often due to no one believing the man. Makes me sick honestly.
Mark got lucky lol, not so often some random hottie comes to you for sex, Mark even wanted that to happen at some point so he didn't really fight back. She had sex with him, I know new generation of men are weak children of internet but still, average women can't overpower average male into submission without him wanted that to happen, it's disgusting when adult guys gets themselves "raped" by female and cry about that later, shame on them.
If your opinion is that you'd like to be Mark in this situation, I'd like you to imagine this: A girl you're not interested in at all forces herself on you. You get angry and push her away but she's stronger than she looks. She forces you down in a way that hurts you and begins touching you however she wants, despite how loudly you protest and how violently you try to thrash. You don't want this, but she continues, with a sick grin on her face. She enjoys seeing you uncomfortable, watching you try to cling to your dominant personality while she has her fun with you, gleefully waiting for the moment when you break down and start crying because nothing you can do will stop this, no one will come to save you, and you will likely be ridiculed by anyone you tell this to, forcing you to endure it for a long as she wants. And then some time later, when your sense of normalcy and comfort returns, she comes back to do it to you again. Does this still sound arousing to you?
I feel bad for her kid for having such a shit mom and ruining his life by proxy. The one page that gets is so gut wrenchingly horrible and mark is basically a saint.
@ben allen I'm talking about the scene at the end of the comic where the child of this rape and Mark come to blows because the son is completely mind fucked after discovering he is a rape baby. This is after the son had already seemingly become the second invincible. It's a very emotially charged scene despite taking up less then a page. You just seem upset that people have feelings? It's fine, you'll get over it when you're older.
@ben allen I get you are just trolling and shit dude but it's scary to think about. That loss of bodily autonomy. Pulling away from a lover because their touch reminds you of your attackers. The seeming anger at people who ask about what is bothering them. I don't even care about your opinion really, it's just that your responses give me more opportunities to go off about how well this comic portrayed trauma.
Mark could have put up a fight and maybe even beaten her off but he was emotionally spent and completely exhausted when she caught him that day. That fucked with his mind, the fact that he didn’t fight her more which is what a lot of assault survivors worry about. Even now he he’s i states to fight her because she took all control from him, made him feel like a “thing” more than a person, just a tool for her to get what she wanted. That’s why he hesitates when she says she enjoys it. From a third person perspective, you’d think “oh really? what if i just started beating the fuck out of you right now, no strings attached and nothing held back” but that’s not how you’d feel if you were in his place. Its awful and so fucking disturbing. Especially when she grabs him down there and tells him she doesn’t think he doesn’t want it, only because he had an erection. She’s evil. I think it was a perfect way to show us just how demented Viltrumites were. Their conquests weren’t just about murdering and slaughtering millions, they probably used sexual assault as a weapon of war too, like Nolan says later on when he finds out.
@@Greg12839 That's flat out wrong. When Mark was letting out all of his emotions on Eve, he said that he could have fought back harder, but he didn't. He partially believed that a part of him wanted it, and let it happen. Which is why he feels so guilty of it whenever he is around Eve and she tries getting intimate with him.
People say “she’s a baddie mark was lucky “ but I think the point is that mark literally couldn’t fight her off to say no and it probably embarrassed him as well. Not being strong enough to have a choice is the main problem in his case
Same I think they will either gloss over it and say that it happened or they might do it by showing scenes of the rape as it flickers on and off. Meaning one second you see what's happening, the next you see a black screen and they just keep doing that until we see anissa fly away and mark looking absolutely defeated lol. I don't see the writers showing the sex so you guys can drop that idea lol
@@wendellc7526 They literally showed civilians being massacred in this show left and right, you think they’re going to shy away from a little rape?😆 I find your lack of faith *disturbing*. [force chokes you with two fingers]
@@Aden_III Murder isnt really seen as being as serious as rape when it comes to media. Every day you see someone in an animation, tv, youtube, videogame, etc. getting killed. However, rape is a much rarer topic that can also be much closer to home than murder and is generally seen as more "vile". It goes without saying that rape victims are more likely to watch the show than murder victims.
Like if Mark was the assaulter? That would be incredibly stupid and the Invincible comic would drop in popularity so fast. There would be no coming back from it.
It " Should" be equally disgusting. But let's be honest with ourselves about society. If the roles were reversed here they'd have sjws trying to cancel the comic and make sure it didn't get shown on the TV series
@@agentchaos9332 Bro male on female rape has occurred in like literally every comic franchise ever, what the fuck are you talking about lmao Where are these mythical cancel culture SJWs that you guys talk about so much, or are you just punching air
@@Sly9192 I mean violence is nothing, bunch of ketchup and gummy worms, but rape?...I dunno, most likely they will take it out but it'll be largely hinted at throughout the season, also it won't happen till like the 3rd or fourth season so there's that.
There's a whole other layer of the population wanting the scene to be taken out and i honestly think they should make two versions of that episode, one with and one without. Sexual abuse/trauma is honestly terrifying and PTSD can often develop as a result. Just food for thought.
Anissa is extremely lucky that Mark isn’t a wrathful person or someone who lacks empathy and was merciful, gentle or compassionate enough to decide not to tell Nolan while she was under his mercy. he would’ve have ripped off every part of her body like paper
@@adamdailey6675 No, he literally told him. In the same conversation he also mentioned that he suspected that's what happened between them. The he talked about the Viltrumite way.
You know there is a guy who was defending the new amber and told people off about joking about mark's mom being a Pet but in that same video he said that mark could have beaten anisa and he wanted to happened, I wonder what would have been his reaction if genders were reversed
You can find someone attractive and still hate them, and that's what people seem to forget the whole thing has to do with instinct vs reason and what's right, you can find chick hot and that's "instinctive" but if she either has a shitty personality or zero personality "reason" dictates you'll back off cuz she bad news and that's what Mark did it was a physical desire and his body reacted in kind he just fought that desire with his own will and reason meaning he was faced with temptation and he rejected it. The whole concept of rape is to be taken advantage of without consent but people are saying "oh deep down he wanted it" and I agree but☝️that doesn't mean it was decided, mark was taken advantage of not by female perspective but a Male one, Anissa took advantage of his desire when it wasn't her choice to make, and anyone who doesn't understand that is a toxic shithead who needs to get their heads out the crapper
The same thing, actually. It's a pretty common talking point for when _people_, both genders, anyone who was ever sexually abused, to be accused of wanting to be raped or abused. You'd be shocked how often this is said to people and it's really super fucked.
@@wacky3486 yeah is the same, women sometimes have orgasm when they are raped and nobody is saying they wanted it, in fact unlike mark they don't fight it, so do they deep down wanted it? Sounds a little bit on the lines of, it's ok if it happens to men
@@Arizto7828 this is actually absurd to me considering how everything I've said is really common to the point of studies being done on sexual abuse/assault to disprove the "well they would've fought back if they didn't want it" myth. It was a massive problem that's been talked about to death. On a more anecdotal level, I've had people say this to me (I'm male), and I've heard people say this to my friends at the time. Other then that, I'm not sure what point you're making.
It’s confirmed that they are ignoring that plot line. Anissa will appear but her storyline will be changed. Our generation is too soft. And they won’t make x rated films. Even r rating limits their profits because of age restriction so X rated ain’t not happenin
@@SantosuBR yes even the boys comic was special because of how Gorey and violent it is. But they cut out 90% of it for the show because it will enrage people. Stuff like gang graping starlight and racial killings. (Ik stormfront was in the boys but it’s a far censored version of the comic one and she felt like a parody) It makes the comics “special” but bringing it to live action would be hard. Not only that, it won’t even be R rated, it will be X rated. Meaning it won’t even air on prime. And even more importantly, people will be too disturbed and cause controversy. Our gen is too soft now.
@@SantosuBR even some of the fights in season 1 was very diluted compared to the comics. So most likely the up coming fights won’t have the level of blood of comics, so a grape scene def won’t happen and it’s already confirmed that it won’t.
When they do that scene in the show theres gonna be 3 groups of people arguing online. The guys saying he's lucky because shes attractive, the people that are gonna get mad at those guys and use it as an excuse as to why male secksual assault isnt taken seriously and lastly the people that are fake outraged about it and want to turn it into a lecturing moment
That’s the only thing I hope they change about this part when they animate this-I hope they have Mark eventually speak up and tell his parents about what happened and they give us the satisfaction of seeing Nolan fuck her up-but not too gruesome cause Mark has a heart of gold and I don’t want him to suffer too badly
@@nataliawashington872 Think about the bigger picture of you change it up, than Mark's son will not happen and he won't be the protector of Earth. Oops, I hope I didn't ruin it too much but we are viewing spoilers already. I wouldn't want her dead per day, because there is a child involved and he will be the protector of Earth.
@@moistvibes5697 I can’t sympathize with him. Mark by that point had killed Conquest, and hung with the best of them. But here comes Anissa, and because he’s not taking it seriously he loses to her. Then, she has her way with him. He didn’t do all in his power to stop that which he claimed he didn’t want
Wasn't really a threat. She said she missed him, he snapped and threatened to beat her face in and she was basically like "YASSS, HARDER, DADDY! 😊🥰🤤" Only when Nolan got involved did she kinda get like 😮.
It must’ve been a traumatizing day, but even more traumatic choosing between carrying that mental/emotional scar and taking it to the grave, or opening up about it to his dad and risking Anissa’s life. Sure, rape is terrible and nobody should go through it but it should never be met with death.
I hate how this whole thing is handled. Mark saying nothing to anyone. And when He says It, it's too late. Amiss doesn't pay for what she did. It made me quite disgusted.
I don’t understand why some people tryna downplay the rape shit against mark like he didn’t enjoy it and people in these comment sections trying to justify it is disgusting
I'm really curious how this show is going to do this. She definitely looks different in comparison. She is way more attractive and made people think that they might pull a different way this time. I would understand it if they did.
@@anatoldenevers237 Definitely my favorite of her roles. Also, good picks for fav villains (Although Walt and Zuko are more misguided heroes/protagonists) great characters though.
God, I can only imagine what would Nolan have done if he knew what she did to his son. So many times he kept asking what she did, and they kept telling him that it was nothing.
People can say all they want about switching places with him the fact is you ain't mark. He didn't want it even if you did. And it's pretty obvious a part of him is still scared and probably humiliated about the whole situation.
@@Freethinker_94 Yea but not in the hands of Omni Man..... Even Omni Man says she did what she did because " She was stitch to the old Viltrum ways but now she has change"
Based on the comments- Men* omg why doesnt anyone take men getting raped seriously?! If this was reversed there would be an uproar! Also men* damn I wouldve let it happened. She sooo bad !!! Mark is a bitch boi all he needed to do was relax and enjoy himself
I really don’t want what I’m about to say downplay the storyline or the importance of this, but knowing viltrum, what anissa did was probably normal in their society. That doesn’t make it any less fucked up-
Why people kept bringing that up like he didn't nearly eliminate his own son. He doesn't care, Anissa did far less damage & brutality than his own father. Besides she was the one that has to carry & raise the child not Mark.
As someone whos felt out of control of their whole life it pisses me off beyond words that mark didnt just push the big red button and have his dad skin this bitch. I dont care how good lookin she may be. If that was me and no wasnt an option itd be my mission in life to make problems for her. Then again theres poor markie...😢
Sharing trauma helps but it's not always necessary. Everyone deals with horrible events in their own way. On their own time, you can't force people to open up. Especially when the don't want to. It may help them it may not. People bury their own experiences for a reason, so they don't have to relive them.
She a freak! She was down for a second round. She one of those “give it up or ima take it” making the first move.... I don’t condone it, but I like it. She probably love getting dominated.
I feel like Omni Man should have noticed the fear/trama in his son when that woman showed up after all he beat Mark up and saw his sons fear and rage but this was on a different level
Bro poor mark, I know that his ass is pretty much non existance with how many times he is beaten to a pulp but I think any other person in his place would have just break. My man here is super traumatized hearing anisssa's voice is enough to make him tremble
Everybody who says they would take mark's place here, just think. Forget all the ethical shit for a moment, because as important as it would be irl, just think about the implications of a viltrumite forcing themselves on a human. Every single bone in your body would be completely shattered.
@dust195 Like your pov on this bc 100% right. Even if it IS a known fact. If it IS a definite 20%-80% or even a 40%-60% With the major being men, that shouldn't take away from the fact that women are going out and invalidating or joking about men's experience with this. The lack of accountability is real coming from a chick.
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She literally pulled a “JOKES ON YOU....I’m into this shit”
But it’s wired
@@gogetog1065 what did ya expect, she's sadistic as fuck!
yes
@@kiingversai Nah he would have to protect her all the time
@@gogetog1065 idk about that. She's much more capable than base Eve. In fact Mark is almost killed protecting Eve in a certain altercation that I want get in to due to spoilers. Tho if it were Anissa instead of Eve Mark would have just died so there's an argument as to who's more useful. Not too mention, oh idk Anissa fucking raped Mark so I think Eve is the better partner 100%
Men never talked about being sexually assaulted and mark didn’t even tell his dad and it’s actually sad
It is. Men are put in an unfair position where they’re not supposed to talk about it, and even Mark doesn’t really know how to address the situation. This is one of the ways masculinity can be made toxic.
Well eventually he did but Nolan was like " Ohhh.......yea that's kinda of our culture sorry about that but hey we're all changing thanks to earth and she got a whole family now, shit is old" lol
@@trvpmusic2569 "gee thanks dad"
Lots of dudes talk about it, many of course aren't taken serious and are even laughed at
his dad does find out though
I like the subtle details that show how much stronger and more durable they are than their environment. Like when mark slammed her against the wall, the wall literally cratered but she didn’t react at all
Viltrumite cells are durable as hell
@@CantuWielder I mean, they are I- *[TITLE CARD]*
@@thebadger622 *blood splatter*
@@thebadger622 goddamn it
So...... What material battle beast weapons made of? It can injure Virtrimites right?
Mark stopped choking Anissa the moment he realized she came when he did it.
Chick really turned to a fruit gusher when he slammed her against the wall.
@@donflamingo5685 i cried out laughing at this comment thank you
@@jxstarluna7710 oh your welcome i love making peeps laugh.
@@donflamingo5685 she actually came?
Oh my lord 💀
I have a feeling that when she gets adapted into the show, she’s either going to sound like an older Azula from Avatar or be given this very deep and domineering Russian accent.
If either of those happen, it'll be hot.
But what if the VA of Azula could do both?
Yes!
Bruh Azula's VA would be cool
Actually her sounding like Azula does make sense
I feel like they are gonna tone it down or worse, gonna treat it as not a big deal considering the show is heavy in sjw stuff right about now.
Mark: * homicidal rage *
Anissa: Harder, Daddy.
Mark : Daughter ?
Hoooyeah
Mark: WHAT?
Anissa: Did I stutter?
That's literally what happen no cap
Hehe
I see Anissa is the "You better dominate me or I'll dominate you" type.
From how she made it sound that’s how all viltrumites do things back home, she didn’t even see what she did as rape until she lived with a human and learned to love
@@julianadams3710 Like almost every other species/society: It might seem horrible and barbaric by our standards (humans), but to them? It's just a way of life. Not saying it's right mind you, but Anissa just saw it as something that needed to be done.
I mean I think its about viltrum instincts at this point, if she doesn't know that rape is bad for a human standards.
@@julianadams3710 Did she ever apologize or try to make amends to Mark after seeing what she did was rape?
@@windghost2 yes? My memory is a bit hazy but if you really want a clear answer read the comic. It’s during the final battle with Thragg I think. Basically, as stated above, she settled down with a human and realized what she did to Mark and tried apologize to him a LOT. Mark told Eve what happened, she flipped on her, then Eve told Omni Dad what happened, he flipped on her, but big battle coming, bla bla bla, we ALL got shit to do so they put aside and go do said shit.
she is genuinely lucky he didn't tell his dad what she did to him
Fr though
Boy you better keep reading :D
@@outsiider2537 why does he find out and if so what ch & page!
Fuck I wanna read this shit
@@cainwallen5119 spoiler to ur answer
Dad finds out and feels guilty because it’s tradition for viltrumites to chose their lovers forcefully
if nolan found out way before he would’ve ripped anissa in half
he would have done *immortal cut move 9000*
He would’ve done to her what Thragg did to Battle Beast
@@KangarooMonkey turn her into the most epic cape ever
Hmm idk about the battle beast
Actually Anissa fought Nolan head on in the Viltrumite War, she's way tougher than people think
Anissa on the smash or pass scale is....smash but like... smash her more than what omni man did to invincible when he threw him through Chicago
Why the fuck do I agree with this?
So murder her? Oh hell yes.
@@Seragin she did get better but I feel like what she did was irredeemable
If she was anyone else who wasn't a rapist It be a smash on the looks scale BUT considering what she did that's a HARD pass
@@huntercheadle2679 Well yea that too
Mark: *pushes Anissa*
Anissa: harder daddy
Mark: wtf
Anissa: YOU HEARD ME
Mark: I'm not gonna choke you 😐
Her: then I'll choke you...
Mark: 😕
@Kevin Philip smexy
@@lahkooky504westside3 hey I'd play along with Anissa
@@Sevan_UP with her superhuman strength? No thank you
@@lahkooky504westside3 but let’s say u had it too…
I don’t like that this is a “I’d take marks place” only because she’s attractive. This is legit rape. It’s a serious topic that the comic touched on because we don’t hear of men being raped by women. If the roles were reversed there wouldn’t be any jokes…
Its quite simple, man appetite for sex is bigger than women.
@@bazarovmedic4807 But that doesn't make rape against them, which by definition isn't wanted, any less serious. There are plenty of women out there with very high sex drives, but that doesn't ever cheapen their consent nor justify treating it as a given until proven otherwise.
@@bazarovmedic4807 what I mean really. Both genders have same attraction towards each other naturally so by your logic it's fine by both sides. Also we gave forced mating a name because of higher intelligence, it literally happens every day in nature .
@@bazarovmedic4807 Can confirm this isn't true always. Not from my experience anyway.
once again male rape is thrown aside bc "female hot" like bruh
Mark's counter-argument to Nolan's statement should have been something along the lines of "Dogs? You mean like Mom, right? Or is she _different?"_
them mark's mom walk in the room like: "Woof woof"
@@knie1172 bro is on straight DEMON time.
I hope they do a change and make that in the show
It would have been immature and pointless.
@@loserinasuit7880 It really wouldn’t have, it’s not immature to call out someone’s bullshit. Calling someone’s bullshit out would probably strengthen their perspective before they talk next time
With everything he's been through in his life in the comics, Mark just needs a hug and discovering he has so many people who love him and feel inspired by his indomitable spirit.
Sometimes I wonder...what if some of us have our lives printed as comics in another universe?
That's the reason why they call him "Invincible"
I am surprised he did not tell his mother before leaving Earth( he could have told his mom a female viltrumite raped me and wants to do it multiple times that is the real reason I want to leave Earth with EVE AND TERRA.)
If my poor boy Mark had been emotionally fine that damn day I'm sure all the Viltrumites would have had to go on a search mission to find the parts of anissa all over the globe
Yea she caught him at the wrong time.
I’d do over the universe
uh chief , there are other universes where he is NOT FINE at all and goes bad , evil , deranged and even cannibalistic ...
Mark is weaker than her
She was stronger than him
Feels like thats how the female saiyans would act if DBZ went the same route as Invincible as in R rated
No doubt about it
I can definitely see that being a thing
Gine dominating Bardock sounds wild af
@@attackonsamurott4418 well she’s one of the softer and more human saiyans
I dont think they would be able to do it to the stronger males but definitely to the low class ones with low power levels.
I literally just got done reading invincible and it was amazing. Marky is going to be a great superhero.
He's got one hell of a family story
Being hero is bullshit
@@gabriel.a350 😳
@@danielm8656 lol
@@gabriel.a350 i see you live in “the boys” universe
Mark should talk to tom from boondocks about that one anti rape move.
She probably be into that
You can't have it.
@@geraldjames7719 Anissa: O yes I can.
I don’t think that technique works here considering she’s“bouncing” on mark instead of “inserting” in mark
"I likes ya, and I want ya. We can do this the easy way or the veltrumite way... the choice is yours"
I bet when the show introduces her she will replace Amber as the most hated character.
The Snu Snu memes will be insane.
Nah Allen’s girl she literally hated terra and hates mark for being with eve
What makes Amber so hated is that we all know an Amber in our lives, we can relate. We don't have a superpowered alien who beat us to an inch of death or raped us. Same reason why Dolores Umbridge was more hated than Voldermort among the HP fandom.
Doubt. Anissa is an interesting character Amber is not.
Nah. I think they will be equally hated if not Amber more because even though there are people like Anissa who are literally "Do it harder daddy" personified but 10 times worse than that, it seems like Anissa is gonna be an important character. Also she's a Viltrumite. Like Omni-Man she probably grew up thinking that "Im stronger than you so l dominate you and your a lesser being than me" so it's understandble why she would be bat-shit insane like this. Like Omni-man she probably could meet an earthling that changes her view on life and actually grow as a character. Where-as Amber's case was just so unreasonable. "I knew you were a super-hero for weeks and you had to keep it a secret from me to keep the both of us safe, but why did you run away at the campus even though l knew you were right their trying to save William?" like bro? What the fuck type of logic is that?
You know what's even more dark... people are gonna make memes out of the rape scene when it gets animated.
And woman will say mark is lucky or that HE raped her.
@@LzOhaiF honestly I tend to see more guys saying that kind of stuff. More things like “haha I’d happily take his place 🥴”
@@LzOhaiF honestly I think women would only ever 'joke' about it as a sarcastic response to the comments guys make to female rape victims sometimes. Things like 'what was he wearing though'. It really sucks but tbh it's most likely gonna be men who say shit like 'I bet he enjoyed it, it was so hot, I wish I was him, he's weak, women can't rape men'
@@LzOhaiF Its not women who jokes about guys being raped, it's always other Men who jokes about this saying that he liked because every Men would like a " hottie " coming after him and that no Men is raped because they all like It otherwise no woman can ever dominate a Man without him letting.
Or worse, they'll make r34 out of it. Joking would be the worss thing they could do if recreating their own versions of rape scenes wasn't an option
Why tf are people glorifying what happened to Mark? Saying that "well she's attractive" or "he got lucky. Wish i could clap some cheeks." It's freaking disgusting! She didn't have sex with Mark, she RAPED him. Which CAN happen to men by women. It's downgrading comments like that which make male rape victims, when their attacker was a female, less likely to open up about what happened. They get met with such disgusting words like that. Women CAN rape men and may get away with it more often due to no one believing the man. Makes me sick honestly.
I mean if they want to be raped then they're giving consent which is technically not rape cause they want it.
Because had been them, It wouldn’t be a rape and are Akwardly joking about it.
@@williamconto6977 my point is that people act like *Mark* got "lucky"
Fun Fact: It's a comic
Mark got lucky lol, not so often some random hottie comes to you for sex, Mark even wanted that to happen at some point so he didn't really fight back. She had sex with him, I know new generation of men are weak children of internet but still, average women can't overpower average male into submission without him wanted that to happen, it's disgusting when adult guys gets themselves "raped" by female and cry about that later, shame on them.
Mark really tried to threaten her, only to get hit with the "harder" lmao
If your opinion is that you'd like to be Mark in this situation, I'd like you to imagine this:
A girl you're not interested in at all forces herself on you. You get angry and push her away but she's stronger than she looks. She forces you down in a way that hurts you and begins touching you however she wants, despite how loudly you protest and how violently you try to thrash. You don't want this, but she continues, with a sick grin on her face. She enjoys seeing you uncomfortable, watching you try to cling to your dominant personality while she has her fun with you, gleefully waiting for the moment when you break down and start crying because nothing you can do will stop this, no one will come to save you, and you will likely be ridiculed by anyone you tell this to, forcing you to endure it for a long as she wants.
And then some time later, when your sense of normalcy and comfort returns, she comes back to do it to you again.
Does this still sound arousing to you?
SLAP 👏 SOME 👏 SENSE 👏 INTO 👏 THEM!
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I'm going to pull an uno card.
yes
With the way you described it in such detail, kinda yeah
Anissa: last time was so nice *i have to do it twice*
LMAO 🤣
XD XD XD His body will run out of those white things
Anissa- oh okay daddy🥰. I see you want to switch the roles😉. You can dominate me this time😍.
This is how she thinks when it comes to Mark lol
@@Bingblaze a person's body doesn't run out of sperm
@@OmarSaeed-n4j ik bro
Also in this comic it was portrayed as a truly horrifying and traumatic event. Not something to walk off or say alright to.
I feel bad for her kid for having such a shit mom and ruining his life by proxy.
The one page that gets is so gut wrenchingly horrible and mark is basically a saint.
@ben allen what? He's over sensitive for being mad that he was raped?You ok bud?
@ben allen I'm talking about the scene at the end of the comic where the child of this rape and Mark come to blows because the son is completely mind fucked after discovering he is a rape baby.
This is after the son had already seemingly become the second invincible.
It's a very emotially charged scene despite taking up less then a page.
You just seem upset that people have feelings?
It's fine, you'll get over it when you're older.
@ben allen Cope
@ben allen I get you are just trolling and shit dude but it's scary to think about.
That loss of bodily autonomy.
Pulling away from a lover because their touch reminds you of your attackers.
The seeming anger at people who ask about what is bothering them.
I don't even care about your opinion really, it's just that your responses give me more opportunities to go off about how well this comic portrayed trauma.
@ben allen you seem to be projecting heavily. Cuz nothing they've said has anything to do with any bullshit you're spewing.
Mark could have put up a fight and maybe even beaten her off but he was emotionally spent and completely exhausted when she caught him that day.
That fucked with his mind, the fact that he didn’t fight her more which is what a lot of assault survivors worry about.
Even now he he’s i states to fight her because she took all control from him, made him feel like a “thing” more than a person, just a tool for her to get what she wanted.
That’s why he hesitates when she says she enjoys it. From a third person perspective, you’d think “oh really? what if i just started beating the fuck out of you right now, no strings attached and nothing held back” but that’s not how you’d feel if you were in his place.
Its awful and so fucking disturbing.
Especially when she grabs him down there and tells him she doesn’t think he doesn’t want it, only because he had an erection.
She’s evil.
I think it was a perfect way to show us just how demented Viltrumites were. Their conquests weren’t just about murdering and slaughtering millions, they probably used sexual assault as a weapon of war too, like Nolan says later on when he finds out.
Eh, nah he would have still lost. Because she is stronger and older than him.
@@Dayz671 Mark let it happen life or death situation directs blood elsewhere. My theory is Mark didn’t want to fight.
@@randomlygeneratedname7171 and your theory is wrong, it is literally confirmed in the story that she was more powerful than him at that time
@@Greg12839 That's flat out wrong. When Mark was letting out all of his emotions on Eve, he said that he could have fought back harder, but he didn't. He partially believed that a part of him wanted it, and let it happen. Which is why he feels so guilty of it whenever he is around Eve and she tries getting intimate with him.
he could have use the same move he used on conquest and killed her @@Dayz671
Dude your comics u been putting up have given a lot of information about everything a person needs to know about a certain comic,keep up the good work
People say “she’s a baddie mark was lucky “ but I think the point is that mark literally couldn’t fight her off to say no and it probably embarrassed him as well. Not being strong enough to have a choice is the main problem in his case
Watching this made me think of Anissa as Darkness
From Konosuba?
@@ikedrakeford7164 what other anime did you think I was talking about
@@ikedrakeford7164 yes
@@LukeyChung_OG i wasnt sure if ut was from an anime
Great. Now her theme is stuck in my head. 🎼😂
Can't wait to see how they're going to censor/deal with this on the animated series...
Judging from how the show is now I Don't think they will
Oh ye of little faith
Same
I think they will either gloss over it and say that it happened or they might do it by showing scenes of the rape as it flickers on and off. Meaning one second you see what's happening, the next you see a black screen and they just keep doing that until we see anissa fly away and mark looking absolutely defeated lol.
I don't see the writers showing the sex so you guys can drop that idea lol
@@wendellc7526 They literally showed civilians being massacred in this show left and right, you think they’re going to shy away from a little rape?😆
I find your lack of faith *disturbing*. [force chokes you with two fingers]
@@Aden_III Murder isnt really seen as being as serious as rape when it comes to media. Every day you see someone in an animation, tv, youtube, videogame, etc. getting killed. However, rape is a much rarer topic that can also be much closer to home than murder and is generally seen as more "vile". It goes without saying that rape victims are more likely to watch the show than murder victims.
Imagine if it was the opposite situation
Doesn't matter, it's fucked up either way.
I'd like to think that the majority of us actually found that part repulsive. Good writing, made me feel disgusted
Like if Mark was the assaulter? That would be incredibly stupid and the Invincible comic would drop in popularity so fast. There would be no coming back from it.
It " Should" be equally disgusting. But let's be honest with ourselves about society. If the roles were reversed here they'd have sjws trying to cancel the comic and make sure it didn't get shown on the TV series
@@agentchaos9332 Bro male on female rape has occurred in like literally every comic franchise ever, what the fuck are you talking about lmao
Where are these mythical cancel culture SJWs that you guys talk about so much, or are you just punching air
If they take out the R scene I will be really mad at them.
They won't
@@Sly9192 I mean violence is nothing, bunch of ketchup and gummy worms, but rape?...I dunno, most likely they will take it out but it'll be largely hinted at throughout the season, also it won't happen till like the 3rd or fourth season so there's that.
If it’s pg-13 I’m straight up not buying
There's a whole other layer of the population wanting the scene to be taken out and i honestly think they should make two versions of that episode, one with and one without. Sexual abuse/trauma is honestly terrifying and PTSD can often develop as a result. Just food for thought.
@@Crea_TV It'll happen, just not explicitly obviously
Anissa is extremely lucky that Mark isn’t a wrathful person or someone who lacks empathy and was merciful, gentle or compassionate enough to decide not to tell Nolan while she was under his mercy. he would’ve have ripped off every part of her body like paper
Nope. He told Nolan later. To which he responded that it's the viltrumite way, the strong take what they want.
@@avada0
Nolan found out on his own
@@adamdailey6675 No, he literally told him. In the same conversation he also mentioned that he suspected that's what happened between them. The he talked about the Viltrumite way.
The face she made when they walked away
You know there is a guy who was defending the new amber and told people off about joking about mark's mom being a Pet but in that same video he said that mark could have beaten anisa and he wanted to happened, I wonder what would have been his reaction if genders were reversed
You can find someone attractive and still hate them, and that's what people seem to forget the whole thing has to do with instinct vs reason and what's right, you can find chick hot and that's "instinctive" but if she either has a shitty personality or zero personality "reason" dictates you'll back off cuz she bad news and that's what Mark did it was a physical desire and his body reacted in kind he just fought that desire with his own will and reason meaning he was faced with temptation and he rejected it. The whole concept of rape is to be taken advantage of without consent but people are saying "oh deep down he wanted it" and I agree but☝️that doesn't mean it was decided, mark was taken advantage of not by female perspective but a Male one, Anissa took advantage of his desire when it wasn't her choice to make, and anyone who doesn't understand that is a toxic shithead who needs to get their heads out the crapper
The same thing, actually. It's a pretty common talking point for when _people_, both genders, anyone who was ever sexually abused, to be accused of wanting to be raped or abused. You'd be shocked how often this is said to people and it's really super fucked.
@@wacky3486 yeah is the same, women sometimes have orgasm when they are raped and nobody is saying they wanted it, in fact unlike mark they don't fight it, so do they deep down wanted it? Sounds a little bit on the lines of, it's ok if it happens to men
@@Arizto7828 this is actually absurd to me considering how everything I've said is really common to the point of studies being done on sexual abuse/assault to disprove the "well they would've fought back if they didn't want it" myth. It was a massive problem that's been talked about to death. On a more anecdotal level, I've had people say this to me (I'm male), and I've heard people say this to my friends at the time.
Other then that, I'm not sure what point you're making.
@@wacky3486 not debating your points, just pointing out what the other comment said about anissa being attractive and mark wanted it.
Only thing that never sat right with me was the fact that when she did it, his father was already the emperor. That takes some balls to do.
Nolan ordered her to breed, despite her protests that she didn't want to mate with a human. Mark was her compromise, as she couldn't disobey Nolan
@@ThatTCG I’m aware, but graping your emperors son still takes some balls 😂
I'm genuinely uncomfortable and worried as to how they'll adapt this in the coming seasons.
It’s confirmed that they are ignoring that plot line. Anissa will appear but her storyline will be changed. Our generation is too soft. And they won’t make x rated films. Even r rating limits their profits because of age restriction so X rated ain’t not happenin
@@Nemenisserious bro? These type of scenes of violence make Invincible so different and good bro
@@SantosuBR yes even the boys comic was special because of how Gorey and violent it is. But they cut out 90% of it for the show because it will enrage people. Stuff like gang graping starlight and racial killings. (Ik stormfront was in the boys but it’s a far censored version of the comic one and she felt like a parody)
It makes the comics “special” but bringing it to live action would be hard. Not only that, it won’t even be R rated, it will be X rated. Meaning it won’t even air on prime. And even more importantly, people will be too disturbed and cause controversy. Our gen is too soft now.
@@SantosuBR even some of the fights in season 1 was very diluted compared to the comics. So most likely the up coming fights won’t have the level of blood of comics, so a grape scene def won’t happen and it’s already confirmed that it won’t.
@Nemenis no it's not
When they do that scene in the show theres gonna be 3 groups of people arguing online.
The guys saying he's lucky because shes attractive, the people that are gonna get mad at those guys and use it as an excuse as to why male secksual assault isnt taken seriously and lastly the people that are fake outraged about it and want to turn it into a lecturing moment
I love how we all know exactly what is meant when she says do “it” again
Tbh, if everything went the same but if Anissia didn't meet Scott, Nolan would've ripped her in half if he told what happened
That’s the only thing I hope they change about this part when they animate this-I hope they have Mark eventually speak up and tell his parents about what happened and they give us the satisfaction of seeing Nolan fuck her up-but not too gruesome cause Mark has a heart of gold and I don’t want him to suffer too badly
@@nataliawashington872 Think about the bigger picture of you change it up, than Mark's son will not happen and he won't be the protector of Earth. Oops, I hope I didn't ruin it too much but we are viewing spoilers already. I wouldn't want her dead per day, because there is a child involved and he will be the protector of Earth.
Nolan wasn’t mad that Mark attacked her, he was scared his some might get attacked (again) by the viltrumite equivalent of a cougar.
4:15 that face lmao
The thrust is STRONG!
-u-
Yes, she came.
She is most probably a Dom but in times she is a switch too
We gotta get azula’s voice actor to do anissa
Bro why? She already voices like 70% of the female cast, and now she's Thula. It's starting to get ridiculous
Chloe Bennett will not voice Anissa
No she will be voiced by Shantel VanSanten the same actress who was Billy's wife the Rape victim to Rapist now
Poor Mark 🥺
I don’t sympathize
@@Aden_III why?
@@moistvibes5697 I can’t sympathize with him. Mark by that point had killed Conquest, and hung with the best of them.
But here comes Anissa, and because he’s not taking it seriously he loses to her. Then, she has her way with him.
He didn’t do all in his power to stop that which he claimed he didn’t want
@@Aden_III He saw her as a friend. He held back because of that, and Anissa took advantage of that. Plain and simple.
@@FrancisCastiglione bullshit
he still could run away from her
I love how quickly more got grossed out by her saying she was into being choke slammed.
3:37 the way how she’s staring at him is creepy asf
Man. The internet is not prepared for when this gets adapted to the show. Makes me wonder if they're even gonna do it.
your way presenting the comics with this style for a video is really nice I hope you keep up the great work
not an entire comment section sexualizing a rapist
ay dgaf id smash :)
@@cainmagnetic9796Weirdo
2 years late@@ladypimp
Now,now "Mark"we wouldn't want to hurt our "offspring".
She knows he could absolutely destroy her and she loves it lol
She'd wreck him
Wasn't really a threat. She said she missed him, he snapped and threatened to beat her face in and she was basically like "YASSS, HARDER, DADDY! 😊🥰🤤"
Only when Nolan got involved did she kinda get like 😮.
It must’ve been a traumatizing day, but even more traumatic choosing between carrying that mental/emotional scar and taking it to the grave, or opening up about it to his dad and risking Anissa’s life. Sure, rape is terrible and nobody should go through it but it should never be met with death.
Man cant wait to see who they cast as her on the show
That face of hers is priceless
I hate how this whole thing is handled. Mark saying nothing to anyone. And when He says It, it's too late. Amiss doesn't pay for what she did. It made me quite disgusted.
You gotta admit This comics art was always amazing the first few issues where lackluster but then the artists really got good.
I really hope in the cartoon Anissa's 'redemption' is expanded upon and Mark gets real resolution for what happened
Mark: BACK OFF !
Anissa: wheeww I almost came there 😩🥴
Do it again 🥺
Mark- Do what aga(pause) 🤨😳...
Jesus christ! What's gotten in to you?🤢🤮
Anissa- Nothing yet daddy😉😍😈
she had to change afterwards
They better have the guts to animate this because if it was the opposite it would be included like a horror scene
Mark has a hard life
Disturbed :))))
I don’t understand why some people tryna downplay the rape shit against mark like he didn’t enjoy it and people in these comment sections trying to justify it is disgusting
"Yes Lord Inquisitor, that alien woman over there"
"My thanks loyal citizen. ALL RIGHT ALL VOLCANO CANNONS, FIRE ON THE BITCH!!!! "
I'm really curious how this show is going to do this. She definitely looks different in comparison. She is way more attractive and made people think that they might pull a different way this time. I would understand it if they did.
The "Jokes on you im into that shit" is actually terrifying we can see it in Mark's face.
Calling it now. Azula.
She is going to have Azulas voice.
Either that or sound like Power gi-....oh my god this chick is an evil power girl.
Azula's VA is already in the cast as Monster Girl, so I can see them reusing her for Anissa as well.
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 wait, Monster Girl is Azula? Wow
@@anatoldenevers237 yeah. She’s talented. There are So many characters she’s done.
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 I’ve always just known her as Azula, one of my favorite villains ever(the others being Zuko and Walter White).
@@anatoldenevers237 Definitely my favorite of her roles. Also, good picks for fav villains (Although Walt and Zuko are more misguided heroes/protagonists) great characters though.
At least when Omni found out she did something to mark he almost snapped her neck.
God, I can only imagine what would Nolan have done if he knew what she did to his son.
So many times he kept asking what she did, and they kept telling him that it was nothing.
Anissa is a baddie. Idk why Invincible gets so defensive. Just let it happen bro, live a little
People can say all they want about switching places with him the fact is you ain't mark. He didn't want it even if you did. And it's pretty obvious a part of him is still scared and probably humiliated about the whole situation.
Thank you
Yep it's much more terrifying and shocking when it's the woman doing it
If the rolls were reversed the comic community would be going haywire
He pulled that hand away real fast when Anissa said she enjoyed that haha
The fact that she never pay for this pisses me off but I like it like this it shows how our society is actually....
She's dead
@@Freethinker_94 Yea but not in the hands of Omni Man..... Even Omni Man says she did what she did because " She was stitch to the old Viltrum ways but now she has change"
Omni-Man: Something i need to know bout there ?
Invincible: No just no.
Omni-Man: Great because i already know bout it LOL
Invincible: NANI ?!
Based on the comments-
Men* omg why doesnt anyone take men getting raped seriously?! If this was reversed there would be an uproar!
Also men* damn I wouldve let it happened. She sooo bad !!! Mark is a bitch boi all he needed to do was relax and enjoy himself
I mean if they want Anissa to rape them it's not that bad, because they're giving her consent which is technically not rape.
@@clashoclan3371 What's bad is that they're making Mark out to be a beta male or something for saying no to schmex
I really don’t want what I’m about to say downplay the storyline or the importance of this, but knowing viltrum, what anissa did was probably normal in their society.
That doesn’t make it any less fucked up-
Mark: why did you make me do this
She hit em wit the uno reverse card
I have zero will power. Would not have resisted.
I want to read the comics bc I want his dad to tear Anissa to shreds when he finds out what happened.
Doesn't happen, and Anissa is actually a pretty interesting character by the end.
He does. his dad doesn't really make it such a big deal sense it's a viltrumite thing.
Why people kept bringing that up like he didn't nearly eliminate his own son. He doesn't care, Anissa did far less damage & brutality than his own father. Besides she was the one that has to carry & raise the child not Mark.
As someone whos felt out of control of their whole life it pisses me off beyond words that mark didnt just push the big red button and have his dad skin this bitch. I dont care how good lookin she may be. If that was me and no wasnt an option itd be my mission in life to make problems for her. Then again theres poor markie...😢
Mark: 😡
Anissa:😏
Mark:😨☹️🏃
Anissa:😑
Sharing trauma helps but it's not always necessary. Everyone deals with horrible events in their own way. On their own time, you can't force people to open up. Especially when the don't want to. It may help them it may not. People bury their own experiences for a reason, so they don't have to relive them.
She a freak! She was down for a second round. She one of those “give it up or ima take it” making the first move.... I don’t condone it, but I like it. She probably love getting dominated.
Lml
What is she? Some type of masochist or something
A freak in the sheets bro. . a freak in the sheets.
@@wesker1739 Correct!!!
@@wesker1739 dam right man
Bro mark was tripping I'd be trying to clap cheeks 24/7 fym
Bro you would have died smashing her
In that case, a comic character is more realistic than you are xD
Bro he was raped wtf
These comments are disturbing
Welcome to the internet!
So many people are defending this and saying shit like girls cant rape, I've never been so disgusted til now
Invincible tells his dad:
Dad: I’m bouta end this chicks whole career
I feel like Omni Man should have noticed the fear/trama in his son when that woman showed up after all he beat Mark up and saw his sons fear and rage but this was on a different level
Bro poor mark, I know that his ass is pretty much non existance with how many times he is beaten to a pulp but I think any other person in his place would have just break.
My man here is super traumatized hearing anisssa's voice is enough to make him tremble
We didn’t get enough panels of the rest of her body
At this point I'd just give her what she wants
Smash, she crazy but you live once.
i like how mark is still a chicken
Wtf?
He was ASSAULTED! Not a chicken TRAUMATIZED
Everybody who says they would take mark's place here, just think.
Forget all the ethical shit for a moment, because as important as it would be irl, just think about the implications of a viltrumite forcing themselves on a human.
Every single bone in your body would be completely shattered.
I feel bad for mark….like really really bad for mark 🥺
"Well threaten me with a good time"
That was the most intellectual “harder daddy” I’ve ever seen
It’s really sad how men can’t discuss being assaulted because of other men who ostracise them out of toxic masculinity
@dust195 Like your pov on this bc 100% right. Even if it IS a known fact. If it IS a definite 20%-80% or even a 40%-60% With the major being men, that shouldn't take away from the fact that women are going out and invalidating or joking about men's experience with this. The lack of accountability is real coming from a chick.