I'm not arguing but doesn't matter how strong you are if you don't have experience the one is more deadly who has tried one thing hundreds of time in battle field morax at a very big advantage
@@user-te6sq4zw3t No, Zhongli is an adepti who is half Qilin of the mountains and another half that is unknown (probably dragarto Vishap) He has the ability to change his body shape, the dragon form is just one of many he has, and the one he prefers to use (probably because of all the importance behind dragons in the world of Teyvat).
Remember Zhongli has killed Gods like Osial at their full power and he also had the Geo Sovereign under control... And under any water, there is always land.
Still not enough. We have yet to get an official confirmation that azhdaha is the geo sovereign. He is a candidate for now. And if he was truly the geo sovereign, he doesn't have his dragon authority over geo because celestia has it, making him much weaker. In terms of feats, zhongli falls short to xbalanque and Deshret. Zhongli was the strongest god in liyue, not in all of teyvat. We have around at least 70 gods for teyvat and the four shades. The shades themselves, being stronger than zhongli and the rest of the gods, fought a tough battle against the seven dragon sovereigns who still had their authority.
@@jivraj2110 Doesn't matter , his story and role in the whole ordeal of teyvat hasn't ended yet ( clue by raiden) despite giving up his gnosis , his past in the most mysterious after tsarista and him still remembering who rukkadevata is even after nahida erased her in irminsul is the clear indication zhongli is gonna be a major character in all the pivotal chapter that'll soon come whether it's sneznaya or celestia and khanreah
Он победил аждаху даже не в одиночку, даже если аждаха является гео лордом, то он лишён своих сил, так что ему не тягаться с гидро драконом в полной силе
Remarque: zhongli ne peut pas être mesuré sur la même échelle que les autres archontes car c'est un descendant. On dit qu'il descendit à Teyvat il y a 6 000 ans, 2 000 ans avant la querre des Archontes. Yah, le gars de la machine à eau ne peut pas tenir une bougie au vieil homme
As much as I love Celestia wiping out the Triasic era to make Teyvat a safe space for humans, it still took a full power Celestia battling the Sovereigns for years to win and even then it could've gone either way. Even if Zhongli is one of the shades, the fact is that he's still only a shade, directly working under Celestia, while Celestia most likely had plenty of Gods at the level of the Unknown Goddess or higher needing to take on the sovereigns.
You do realise the dragons needed the power of the abyss and still lost right? Not to mention those were the original sovereigns. Neuvillete is way weaker than the hydro sovereign who fought years ago
@@_ORION1the battle took forty years to defeat the sovereign and they didn't need the power of the abyss they was looking a power that can defeat the primordial one
@@_ORION1Remember that primordial one have to divided himself into 4 shades one shade > 7 Archon combined Still sovereign dragon was able to kill one shade as shown in natlan picture where black dragon killing one of the shades And made the function of userper completely lost they literally damaged the heavenly principal which archon can dream of they are way below than 3rd descender itself
Bro why people say Neuvilette is weaker than raiden, like raiden is definitely weaker than a dragon because they are more powerful than a archon and raiden doesn't even have a gnoses
@@Damselletecurrent neuvillete is pretty much featless for scaling other than the narwhal feat which isn't even impressive considering childe was holding his own against that fish
@@_ORION1maybe because he doesn’t want to destroy Fontaine with his powers? And doesn’t get in battle? We still have little to no info about the dragon sovereigns, even tho current hydro sovereigns Neuvillette is weaker than the original sovereign, he is still a sovereign, but I would say currently the strongest sovereign is apep at the moment.
@@The0Dragon0Emperor the point was him being featless, which remains true. We never saw him fight even in that narwhal quarrel where they fought in a different dimension. So we don't even know the scale of his powers. Atleast zhongli and raiden have statements going for them to back up their claims and scaling unlike neuvillete. In WIS there's no excuses like "he/she didn't wanna destroy the area", it's either feats or statements. That's just the standard
@@Trungfr azhada is never mention, azhada to be geo sovereign, go read lore But yeeh zhongli wins (high diff) due to his experience in battle and high battle Iq
Je suis d'accord. Les gens surestiment le pouvoir de Neuvillette et sous-estiment morax il était deja fort avant de devenir archon il à vaicun plusieurs divinité le gnosis n'est qu'un bonus. il a des liens avec un des descendeur on ne sait pas tous . Les dragons ont perdu, ils ont été battus par celestia et n'ont à blâmer que leur propre faiblesse.
Les dragons primordiaux sont plus fort que les archon les pouvoirs des archon et les gnosis viennent des dragons primordiaux donc tous les pouvoirs élémentaire que tu vois dans le jeu viennent des dragons primordiaux et les dragons primordiaux plus il meurent plus ils deviennent résistance et puissant
@@Rin_Okumura976 je te conseille le RUclipsur aiyano il parle du lore de genshin impact rexlapis à des lien avec le soleil et l'espace la roche et arrivé avant l'eau et morax était deja surpuissant avant d'obtenir le gnosis donc le pouvoir du dragon geo et un supplément et la foie de son peuple et aussi un booster accordé par celestia le mec et vraiment crack ( barbatos aussi détruit Neuvillette car il a des lien avec istaroth déesse du temps et y'a des théorie comme quoi venti serait le nouveau dieu du temps).
@@duke8346 bro stop capping lol. They only used the power of abyss in the war to fight the primordial one. so if someone comes to you with a knife u fight bare-handed? literally same thing.
If anyone saying neuvillette is 500 years old then you are wrong because in 4.4lantern rite event where furina mentioned that neuvillette is several thousands years old so not confirmed who is experienced here
Your statement isn't correct. If I didn't hear it from neuvillette himself it's just a claims. Who the f is furina to know his age bro . Did people forget that she is a human who was paranoid for 500 f'ing yr.
You gues do realise zhongli has a true form that of a dragon as well and for him to know neuvilettes true identity of being a sovereign implies that he knows him way back , 6000 yr old buddies ( no other archon would know neuvilettes identity , apep is in dragon form hence ez to identify )
@RUIN_Player that was literally your assumption lol,3e traveler shoke ei will with the people of inazuma, while raiden can't even beat traveler with his own power, After the entrance of yae miko, ei already recharge his electro with her muso no hito tachi, funny your comparing him to the captain. While arlecchino easily one shotted 5e traveler just by starring at him on her domain, the fact that traveler carrying the knowledge of sumeru/combat knowledge Overall my point is 3e traveler with the people of inazuma , Raiden failed to beat traveler, the fact that The atmosphere changed due to raiden as she was already planning to kill us even after she told we could leave tenshukaku alive, and also it's favorable to k/ll us since it was her domain lol, yah she failed lol. While 5e traveler carrying the full knowledge/battle knowledge of sumeru thanks to nahida, got beaten by the 4th while she was holding back on her domain. Try again
@RUIN_Player so you denying my claims even tho it's a facts, nice try buddy, all did you do was making out of nowhere statements you can't even debunk it, nice try 💀
@RUIN_Player my point is before telling me that, why raiden failed to k/ll traveler? Didn't she already said after we save thoma, she will gonna strike twice?
seeing the power of a gnosis in 5.x, doubt neuvillette could win i'd give it to morax/zhongli with gnosis (current + gnosis is enough, prime is overkill imo)
The power of a Gnosis? Having full control of an Authority is much more powerful than partial control of an Authority plus a Gnosis. In addition Mavuika had the power of Ronova aiding her and the Six Heroes too Neuvillette didn’t need any aid (Aside from Focalors returning his RIGHTFUL powers to him) to quell the prophecy and also Mavuika was so exhausted after exerting so much power
@@tianlingqianye4556Last time I checked the world doesn’t need Morax to stay together but the world does need Neuvillete otherwise the Primordial water would just run out of control and flood the planet The Sovereigns are so important to Teyvat because of how powerful they are, without them Teyvat falls apart and that doesn’t apply to Morax or any Archon. People are letting their love for Zhongli blind them from being honest
@@jinwoo-245 those anime series u watched were made bcuz of the Dragon Ball series(father of all animes). immature kid doesnt know when to pick a fight and with who, u could say that gently(even tho it doesnt make sense to me cuz im not some1 like u who says anything about something that he doesnt even know about)
You Forgot that Dragon Sovereign were Fight Primordial One and make them flee, of course Morax has killed most of the gods back then when archon war, but it's different with sovereign that have elemental with full authority. Meanwhile All archon doesn't have full control with they're elements cause.
@@noisykitty1 sovereign can only harness their full potential power untill and unless the archon dies as of current situation the archons r more powerfull than dragon sovereigns due the primordial one giving most of their elemental authority to the archons as u can see abt the apep and azadha there r weekly bosses which we can kill even tho we r a chracter which cannot be compared to a dragon sovereign and as of neuvillette he has regained his powers but he is deprived of the knowledge of this powers so currently only ei, venti and zhongli can be considered strong in the whole tevyat (not including cryo archon and fatui)
@@ErrorCraftedU venti is the weakest archon right now because he gained most of his powers after archon war and as far as we know and venti chooses not to rule mondstadt in a visible way. zhongli is adeptal dragon and neuvillette is sovereigns are the strongest creatures if talking about killing azhada and apep it's needed for the genshin mechanism to play the characters and make the game harder and intersting. the story and the game things are defferent because you can see mualani roll in natlan storyline she is not powerful like neuvillette or raiden but she does more dmg then neuvillette and raiden I'm tanky case
I collected 100 wishes Neuvillette in 80 wishes Zhongli weapon in 10 wishes(I wanted neuvillette weapon😅) And the last 10, I got ZHONGLI 🤩🥳 Now I am going to share my comment in every RUclips comment box 😂🎉
Nop never if it is neuvillette true form then never zhongli can't win tho but if it is reincarnated one then ye there is a chance for zhongli to win against neuvillette
@@RomanHaldar Capitano did not defeat the Pyro Dragon. They defeated the first Pyro Archon and the fire-breeding sage Pyro dragon. This was because the Pyro dragon's power was stolen and cursed by the Abyss. Also, it is not stated anywhere that the Pyro dragon is stronger than the Hydro Dragon. Please do not comment with incorrect information.
@@Certifiedotaku6t9 I don't know about that gameplay Neuvillette isn't like the cannon one. (Reality speaking) If Zhongli spawns a meteorite or the giant sword we see Neuvillette can't do anything about it. Also his prime self has forms like phases you could say so speaking Neuvillette can't beat Zhongli not like that fights going to be present anyway. (Btw I love Neuvillette long hair 📸)
Zhongli was indeed the strongest god in liyue and became archon after defeating multiple gods but that doesn't mean that he was the strongest god in teyvat or that he was the strongest archon in history. Looking at just feats, he falls short of Xbalanque and Deshret.
@@TOAST-D-BREAD the Celestials already beat the sovergions zhongli just happened to find the actual geo sovergion and he gave him a life and zhongli isn't even archon level literally he's the Sun god dues- he can literally create mora from his flesh so....
Man the lore community is finished... Neuvillette is literally debunked... He is not the same sovereign from back then, Nahida literally told us Elemental sovereign dragons only gain power with Age just like most other elemental beings, and Neuvilette is barely 500 Years old, in addition, he canonically has only one attack that he has to charge up and not only is it just a little water shower, so easy to avoid because he can't aim it at multiple places, he is finished Even Characters like Xiao, Cyno , Albedo, Wanderer, Arlecchino they all Clap Neuvillette hard. He is featless and his only "ok feats" are just dogsh!t. Compared to someone like Raiden with Reality Manipulation, cutting trough space and time, Severing the sky open, cutting all of Inazuma in Half with the same single strike She killed Orobashi, and This is her BASE WEAKEST FORM ( She isn't an Archon here and doesn't have the gnosis and still has such feats. I can continue but you get the point) Most of Genshin Clocks Neuvillette and people need to realise that instead of having Surface level reading comprehension and only reading that one part about the Sovereign dragons without taking into account all of the other,more important factors. Also Feats>Statements. The All devouring Whale was stated to devour whole worlds and could devour teyvat if it wanted, yet 5E Traveler managed to Stop the whale ( with Neuvillette stunning the whale, still doing zero damage though) and The Traveler is a Arlecchino Victim. This would literally mean Arlecchino>5E Traveler>Whale>Teyvat and we all know that's not true.
Worst take I’ve ever seen, it took Celestia with their Shades and the Primordial one to take down 7 dragons, that alone already discredits Zhongli who is only an Archon who works under Celestia and can’t even attempt to rebel against them. This isn’t mentioning that we’ve already seen Neuvillette use his power over Hydro to affect Fontanians across the entire planet while Zhongli has never shown or even been said to control Geo across the entire planet, also did you forget that the Narwhal was powered by Primordial water? The literal life blood of the planet that only Neuvillette can control, the fight was literally only an issue because it was using his own power against him. Also Nahida didn’t say Dragons are only strong when they’re old, they simply get stronger with age. Also you’re wrong again because Neuvillette is confirmed 1000 years old, this is from the direct Chinese translation of what Furina says during the past Lantern Rite. It’s also just straight up wrong for the fact that Neuvillette himself says he has power in spade to take on any of the current Archons and Neuvillette doesn’t lie or exaggerate thanks to his centuries as a judge and his personality overall. When he can’t fully take on the Narwhal he asks for help and says as much and even thanks others for their contribution such as Tartaglia. You’d have to find evidence that Neuvillette is intentionally lying/exaggerating to claim that what he says isn’t true Blind obsession to Zhongli is making it hard for you to be objective and you’re making false claims, if we get new information that gives us further insight into who and what Zhongli really is then ofc this could change but the current information so clearly shows us that Neuvillette is physically stronger than any living Archon at the moment
(Man the lore community is finished. Neuvillette is literally debunked... He is not the same sovereign from back then, Nahida literally told us Elemental sovereign dragons only gain power with Age just like most other elemental beings, and Neuvilette is barely 500 Years old, in addition, he canonically has only one attack that he has to charge up and not only is it just a little water shower, so easy to avoid because he can't aim it at multiple places, he is finished Even Characters like Xiao, Cyno , Albedo, Wanderer, Arlecchino they all Clap Neuvillette hard. He is featless ) No he ain't debunked at all most of the things are false In that debunk+ content creator is biased hypocrisy misleading+ providing misinformation to people's Wrong Nahida never stated dragon gain power through ageing that's lack of context also Nahida never meant that way She said apep has been around longer and gain dense elemental power And later in story explained how apep gain elemental power through absorbing king deshret Apep: When Al-Ahmar's proud kingdom collapsed, I swallowed him whole as I agreed and absorbed his elemental power. The cause of apep gain elemental power not cause ageing but absorbing the elemental elemental power of forbidden knowledge And kind deshret was contaminated by forbidden knowledge She was absorbing elemental power of forbidden knowledge to continue war against userper So idk why people's not read stories properly and believe debater Neuvillete charged attack ap pierced the durability of continental level lol Skirk also implied neuvillete power to be beyond tevyat level Implied that no one can achieve in tevyat powerful enough to defeat all devouring narwhale
@@boshlovely2002 - It took the Primordial one 40 years because the Sovereigns were amplified by Forbidden Knowledge that does not exist anymore in Tevyat. Not even bringing up the fact that Neuvi is nowhere near the original hydro sovereign. - This has nothing to do with strength. He shot a Hydro Beam in the sky which traveled across the continent in an unquantifiable amount of time. - You mean the same Narwhal that overpowered Neuvilette in 3 seconds and was still inferior to Childe? - Nahida says that dragons gain strength by age, correct. Azhdaha is older than Zhongli and therefore much stronger than Neuvilette. Azhdaha is still inferior to Neuvilette. - Furina’s voiceline is dubious and unreliable. She quite literally says “If i remember correctly”. 4.6 world quest proves that Neuvi could only be born after Egeria’s death. Wings of wrathful, Merciful waters also imply this, and Neuvi’s character stories say that Egeria suppressed the hydro dragon. - Neuvilette never says that he has the power to take on any of the archons. This is complete, unadulterated headcanon. He says that he is capable of judging them which he already says that is not inherently related to combat. Neuvilette says he can judge the gods, not that he would necessarily win any confrontation that comes as a result of that.
@@Normalguy-f8v > “No he ain't debunked at all most of the things are false In that debunk+ content creator is biased hypocrisy misleading+ providing misinformation to people's” As if you can even remotely refute any of the points lmao. > “Wrong Nahida never stated dragon gain power through ageing that's lack of context also” She quite literally says that Apep is older therefore stronger. > “She said apep has been around longer and gain dense elemental power” Yes, which is power. > “And later in story explained how apep gain elemental power through absorbing king deshret The cause of apep gain elemental power not cause ageing but absorbing the elemental elemental power of forbidden knowledge And kind deshret was contaminated by forbidden knowledge. She was absorbing elemental power of forbidden knowledge to continue war against userper” When she says this, she is specifically referring to the forbidden knowledge. However, this forbidden knowledge was erased from Tevyat and she lost all of it. Despite that, she is still stated to have more elemental energy because she’s older. Apep with no FK was stronger than Dvalin because she is older. You should read the quest properly. > “Neuvillete charged attack ap pierced the durability of continental level lol” Neuvilette is nowhere near continental nor does he scale to it as he needed to charge up for a long ass time. Also, even childe was able to pierce the whale. > “Skirk also implied neuvillete power to be beyond tevyat level Implied that no one can achieve in tevyat powerful enough to defeat all devouring narwhale” No she didn’t. She said that she was surprised that people like Traveler and Neuvi was able to beat the whale without power from beyond as power from beyond is generally far superior to the normal elemental powers. It’s not everyday she sees this lmao. She also said this and proceeds to have a full blown conversation with all 3 of us, which includes paimon. So paimon > Tevyat now?
@@_datsu 1. Yup all just were assumption based on Chinese translation In which powerful sentence ain't present which is stated in other localisation 2. Prove it Nahida said apep is stronger bcoz he's older Headcanon and assumption 3. Elemental power Yes which she gained through swallowing king deshret who was contaminated by forbidden knowledge 4. Apep is stronger than dvalin not stated Coz of being old 5 i never said neuvillete scale to continental you've reading comprehension I said he's charged beam AP pierced the durability of Narwhal which is continental level Childe didn't do shit except bouncing he Narwhale keep absorbing primordial water and he was just bouncing it but didn't do any damage That was neuvillete beam as it ignore durability mechanical feature in game metachurl shield it's ignore And neuvillete beam across the whale which childe polearm didn't therefore he didn't pierced 6, yup all that elemental power from neuvillete however Skirk conversation with traveller paimon as well coz they were present along with neuvillete (And skirk wanted to talk again to neuvillete not traveller paimon again ) As neuvillete said do you believe we meet again and skirk said yeah we do Only two people's present at This time skirk and neuvillete and skirk shown her intrest of meeting of neuvillete again Prove neuvillete stronger than childe Skirk after saw him throw him like garbage didn't want to talk to him
Nah, Morax/Rex Lapis/Deus Ari/Zhongli's story is far from over, meaning we still don't know his backstory aside from the Archon Wars. He is the oldest character we currently know of at 6000+ years old, he is also implied to have witnessed the creation of Teyvat in the description of the Mist Veiled Primo Elixir. Also remember that there is an assumption that he is not originally from Teyvat as it is stated in the book "Stone Tablet Compilation Vol: 1" that he was "Descended" even in the original Chinese it is written as "Demoted" (possibly from another world justru like us the Traveler or even from the Celestial) and this assumption is strenghten by the fact that he seems to be unaffected by Irminsul after the events of Sumeru Archon Quest. Also did i mention about the story of the Sun Charriot who fell into the Chasm from 6000+ years ago? It really does fit him perfectly! I just hope Hoyo will give us another Zhongli story that will tell us about his origins and how he became an Archon (Please adapt it into Anime Hoyo!!). Btw this edit its soo Goated brooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Respect the oldest archon don't conpare him to neuvillete cuz they are different.. from each other and zhongli is still the strongest in teyvat even without his gnosis his still have his sovereign power dragon... All of his prime and 1st descender of teyvat he knows all history even traveler sibling is and destroyed khaenriah
I don't know how people think that someone who just adapted the element and harness its power defeat a being who rules over the element, who is born in it moulded by it.
@@Noname__55 but I still have doubt that neuvi can win cause morax was strong without gnosis he have the title to kill the most gods . Neuvi just had more control over the element than him but morax has battle experience, battle iq etc and might be more strong than him in physical strength
@@Animeblitz69 Neither am I saying that, it's just a fact that dragon sovereigns are stronger than archons,before the 500 year old battle they were either just spirits, elemental beings or just normal gods,it's only after the most strongest, unparalleled, undefeated Character that is the Primordial one literally soloed the entirety of teyvat and defeated everyone,were the archons given a nation etc,the dragon sovereigns be it a reincarnation or whatever are still stronger than the archons,only ones who can defeat them maybe the shades or the primordial one or maybe some endgame level abyss character
Where is this wrong info coming from? Zhongli is not a Sovereign, Celestia went to war with the dragons to take away power from the Sovereigns, so unless you have proof explain why they would let him keep his power?
You are right for neuvilite stronger than archon but i think neuvilite win extra diff because zongli bigger age and win archon war and i think he is one of shade of fhanes so yaeh
How about you think of what’s actually been proven and stated instead of saying “I think Zhongli is a shade of Phanes” sure he’s older but that doesn’t outweigh hacks, if anything it probably makes him weaker.
Hmm I have the diff to be higher according to me and the match is kinda unpredictable one as skills , weaponry , terrain , etc also play a vital role so not sure but you should increase the diff according to me as he also has a gnosis . also this the neuvillette who had the sovereign authority which he once had before reincarnation na ?
This dude really said neuvillette a dragon under 2000yrs old rivals prime morax (a being who has been said to transcend the realm of power in a fight against an ACTUAL god) a dragon currently 6000+, Hr might be special in the head
Even if the theories are true Zhongli is nothing but an invader alongside the Primordial One and the rest of the Shades. Teyvat was the home of the Sovereigns not him
Yes those rain broke the rock and made them into simplest form when the earth was forming lol Your statement is out of sense and stupid do science classes.🤡
Lol sovereign are much stronger and experienced one tho lol and in lore it is said that sovereign ruled over tevyat before archons so experience goes to neuvillette if it is his true form then no chance for zhongli but if this is reincarnated one then i don't know i guess tie? Or zhongli wins
I don’t get why people are saying Zhongli would easily defeat Neuvillette. The dragon sovereigns are literally stronger than the archons and now that Neuvillette has his authority back he’s much stronger.
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The only disadvantage neuvillete has is lack of combat knowledge
He can see water's memories r?
Imagine he can manage to see his past life and learn combat knowledge
@@rickky4869 if Neuvillete has the memories of former hydro sovereign then he may have knowledge about comabat
He still knows how to fight@@sakuraslayer9091
Can u imagine if he js spray water on Zhongli
I'm not arguing but doesn't matter how strong you are if you don't have experience the one is more deadly who has tried one thing hundreds of time in battle field morax at a very big advantage
Imagine Neuvillette and Zhongli both in their Dragon forms fighting. Would be insane
It wouldn't be, the difference in size is unbelievable 😭
Who says zhongli is a dragon?
@@nightfury2472 He said "dragon form" not that Zhongli is a dragon.
@@hinomi107 but zhongli is a dragon? He literally fakes his death in the story in a form of a dragon?
@@user-te6sq4zw3t No, Zhongli is an adepti who is half Qilin of the mountains and another half that is unknown (probably dragarto Vishap) He has the ability to change his body shape, the dragon form is just one of many he has, and the one he prefers to use (probably because of all the importance behind dragons in the world of Teyvat).
Zongli:throws meatball
Neuvi:sprays water
Meatball gets wet
meatball??????????
People like to call his meteor a meatball@@demonboy37
@@demonboy37he means planet
Add Mavuika to heat the water and they can cook spaghetti
Remember Zhongli has killed Gods like Osial at their full power and he also had the Geo Sovereign under control... And under any water, there is always land.
Still not enough. We have yet to get an official confirmation that azhdaha is the geo sovereign. He is a candidate for now. And if he was truly the geo sovereign, he doesn't have his dragon authority over geo because celestia has it, making him much weaker.
In terms of feats, zhongli falls short to xbalanque and Deshret. Zhongli was the strongest god in liyue, not in all of teyvat. We have around at least 70 gods for teyvat and the four shades. The shades themselves, being stronger than zhongli and the rest of the gods, fought a tough battle against the seven dragon sovereigns who still had their authority.
@@jivraj2110 Doesn't matter , his story and role in the whole ordeal of teyvat hasn't ended yet ( clue by raiden) despite giving up his gnosis , his past in the most mysterious after tsarista and him still remembering who rukkadevata is even after nahida erased her in irminsul is the clear indication zhongli is gonna be a major character in all the pivotal chapter that'll soon come whether it's sneznaya or celestia and khanreah
@@Just_a_DivineDonut bro we are talking about who is stronger between Zhongli and Neuvillette...
Он победил аждаху даже не в одиночку, даже если аждаха является гео лордом, то он лишён своих сил, так что ему не тягаться с гидро драконом в полной силе
@@makimaki196azhdaha told that zhongli could have killed him but chose not to maybe that is the reason why he needed others help
Remember
Zhongli (Morax) is the strongest lore wise.
He only use 1% of his power because of the contract
And you made that shit from your ass .
Neuvillette>
Never 😅@@Aizen-hy7mr
@@ROMAN-xu6iu Neuvillette is a sovereign. Zhongli is an archon. That speaks volumes.
@@Aizen-hy7mrnot really
Zhongli is 6000+ yo.. He's the oldest in a "job" where people dont survive 💀💀💀
blud really thought of several different ways to spell defence just to give Morax points
Bro really was getting his ass clapped to give points to Neuvillette
@@duke8346 Bro must be vaping semen to hallucinate his homosexual fantasies
Bro must be on smth else to hallucinate his fantasies in the open
Remarque: zhongli ne peut pas être mesuré sur la même échelle que les autres archontes car c'est un descendant. On dit qu'il descendit à Teyvat il y a 6 000 ans, 2 000 ans avant la querre des Archontes. Yah, le gars de la machine à eau ne peut pas tenir une bougie au vieil homme
I really like some of the takes you make when you're not glazing the fuck out of Capitano lmaoo
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True the Editing quality is there but some Times the Glazing gets Too much (am a Capitano Glazer myself) 😂
Lmfao i mean look at the views 😭🙏
@@Damsellete LMAOOO
@@DamselleteLMAO 💀
As much as I love Celestia wiping out the Triasic era to make Teyvat a safe space for humans, it still took a full power Celestia battling the Sovereigns for years to win and even then it could've gone either way.
Even if Zhongli is one of the shades, the fact is that he's still only a shade, directly working under Celestia, while Celestia most likely had plenty of Gods at the level of the Unknown Goddess or higher needing to take on the sovereigns.
You do realise the dragons needed the power of the abyss and still lost right? Not to mention those were the original sovereigns. Neuvillete is way weaker than the hydro sovereign who fought years ago
All the shades are women actualy we don't know but 3 of them are women so it's safe to assume that the last one is a woman
@@_ORION1the battle took forty years to defeat the sovereign and they didn't need the power of the abyss they was looking a power that can defeat the primordial one
@@_ORION1Remember that primordial one have to divided himself into 4 shades one shade > 7 Archon combined
Still sovereign dragon was able to kill one shade as shown in natlan picture where black dragon killing one of the shades
And made the function of userper completely lost they literally damaged the heavenly principal which archon can dream of they are way below than 3rd descender itself
@@HenslerHebberth-s2rbruh nibelung literally heavily damaged userper in fight
That wasn't easy fight literally for primordial one
FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS THE DRAGON SOVEREIGNS TRUE TERROR
Morax little pet Dragon
We never get Zhongli prime version release so it's understandable why it's equal
Guys I think zhongli could potentially come out as the geo sovereign
Bro why people say Neuvilette is weaker than raiden, like raiden is definitely weaker than a dragon because they are more powerful than a archon and raiden doesn't even have a gnoses
I knew I was right to sub to this channel
She is not weak, neuvilite is just strong 💀
@@Damselletecurrent neuvillete is pretty much featless for scaling other than the narwhal feat which isn't even impressive considering childe was holding his own against that fish
@@_ORION1maybe because he doesn’t want to destroy Fontaine with his powers? And doesn’t get in battle? We still have little to no info about the dragon sovereigns, even tho current hydro sovereigns Neuvillette is weaker than the original sovereign, he is still a sovereign, but I would say currently the strongest sovereign is apep at the moment.
@@The0Dragon0Emperor the point was him being featless, which remains true. We never saw him fight even in that narwhal quarrel where they fought in a different dimension. So we don't even know the scale of his powers. Atleast zhongli and raiden have statements going for them to back up their claims and scaling unlike neuvillete. In WIS there's no excuses like "he/she didn't wanna destroy the area", it's either feats or statements. That's just the standard
Dang this edit is nice
Nice edit + fax 👍 🔥
@@dharmeshchandra2966hahahahhaha zhongli solos, he dragged a geo sovereign aezdaha 😂
@@Trungfr azhada is never mention, azhada to be geo sovereign, go read lore
But yeeh zhongli wins (high diff) due to his experience in battle and high battle Iq
i just saw this and already became a fan
love the edit man
Je suis d'accord. Les gens surestiment le pouvoir de Neuvillette et sous-estiment morax il était deja fort avant de devenir archon il à vaicun plusieurs divinité le gnosis n'est qu'un bonus. il a des liens avec un des descendeur on ne sait pas tous . Les dragons ont perdu, ils ont été battus par celestia et n'ont à blâmer que leur propre faiblesse.
Les dragons primordiaux sont plus fort que les archon les pouvoirs des archon et les gnosis viennent des dragons primordiaux donc tous les pouvoirs élémentaire que tu vois dans le jeu viennent des dragons primordiaux et les dragons primordiaux plus il meurent plus ils deviennent résistance et puissant
@@Rin_Okumura976 je te conseille le RUclipsur aiyano il parle du lore de genshin impact rexlapis à des lien avec le soleil et l'espace la roche et arrivé avant l'eau et morax était deja surpuissant avant d'obtenir le gnosis donc le pouvoir du dragon geo et un supplément et la foie de son peuple et aussi un booster accordé par celestia le mec et vraiment crack ( barbatos aussi détruit Neuvillette car il a des lien avec istaroth déesse du temps et y'a des théorie comme quoi venti serait le nouveau dieu du temps).
You commit treason against your own French character 😂😂😂😂
I love your edit your edits are perfect
Neuvillette is basically the hydro archon
He’s more than that, the sovereigns are much stronger than the archons
@@Useful.48The original WERE, and they were using The power of Abyss.
@@duke8346 bro stop capping lol. They only used the power of abyss in the war to fight the primordial one. so if someone comes to you with a knife u fight bare-handed? literally same thing.
If anyone saying neuvillette is 500 years old then you are wrong because in 4.4lantern rite event where furina mentioned that neuvillette is several thousands years old so not confirmed who is experienced here
But in feats indeed zhongli is experienced as well saw his past but not neuvillette so experience goes to zhongli
Zhongli is the oldest in the game what you talking about blud 💀🙏🏻
@@ZENIX_KUN I did say that zhongli is the oldest one see my comment again I was tryna say that neuvillette isn't 500 years old
Your statement isn't correct. If I didn't hear it from neuvillette himself it's just a claims. Who the f is furina to know his age bro . Did people forget that she is a human who was paranoid for 500 f'ing yr.
@@qf8898Neuvilette become Iudex for 500 years but he can older than that.
Song?
Judas lady gaga❤❤
You know i wouldn't be surprised even if zhongli turned out to be the geo sovereign
sovereign CANT be archons
maybe azhdaha, but i still doubt that because of the erusion azhdaha had
@@achqvwxyz9230 That's his point bruh
@@LynxIsInvicible-.nee3 he's saying that zhongli can be the sovereign, i said they cant be
@@achqvwxyz9230well it isn't surprising if he is given how much less we know abt him
Neuvilette vs Zhongli
Primordial Dragon vs Adepti Dragon
Chief Justice vs Consultant
Hydro vs Geo
Water vs Earth
You gues do realise zhongli has a true form that of a dragon as well and for him to know neuvilettes true identity of being a sovereign implies that he knows him way back , 6000 yr old buddies ( no other archon would know neuvilettes identity , apep is in dragon form hence ez to identify )
Morax is an adeptus, he's not a dragon. He can shapeshift. Do you not read anything in the game or?
The battle will be : haa haa huu shaaa SILENCE !!! ORDER ORDER !!!
😂😂😂😂
Neuvilite current strongest in game lore🙌second is the captain 🙌
@RUIN_Playerraiden shogun lmfao, let her pass to 3e traveler with the power of friendship,
@RUIN_Player that was literally your assumption lol,3e traveler shoke ei will with the people of inazuma, while raiden can't even beat traveler with his own power, After the entrance of yae miko, ei already recharge his electro with her muso no hito tachi, funny your comparing him to the captain.
While arlecchino easily one shotted 5e traveler just by starring at him on her domain, the fact that traveler carrying the knowledge of sumeru/combat knowledge
Overall my point is
3e traveler with the people of inazuma , Raiden failed to beat traveler, the fact that The atmosphere changed due to raiden as she was already planning to kill us even after she told we could leave tenshukaku alive, and also it's favorable to k/ll us since it was her domain lol, yah she failed lol.
While 5e traveler carrying the full knowledge/battle knowledge of sumeru thanks to nahida, got beaten by the 4th while she was holding back on her domain.
Try again
@RUIN_Player so you denying my claims even tho it's a facts, nice try buddy, all did you do was making out of nowhere statements you can't even debunk it, nice try 💀
@RUIN_Player my point is before telling me that, why raiden failed to k/ll traveler? Didn't she already said after we save thoma, she will gonna strike twice?
@RUIN_Player nahida said, top 3 fatui harbingers comparable to a gods?
seeing the power of a gnosis in 5.x, doubt neuvillette could win
i'd give it to morax/zhongli with gnosis (current + gnosis is enough, prime is overkill imo)
The power of a Gnosis? Having full control of an Authority is much more powerful than partial control of an Authority plus a Gnosis.
In addition Mavuika had the power of Ronova aiding her and the Six Heroes too
Neuvillette didn’t need any aid (Aside from Focalors returning his RIGHTFUL powers to him) to quell the prophecy and also Mavuika was so exhausted after exerting so much power
Neuvillette is currently in his prime and will continue to grow even stronger
Right now he’s far stronger than all the Archons
The author of this channel doesn't understand how to compare characters, what character strength depends on, and the hierarchy of powers in Genshin
Read the lore then we can debate it, as for now neuvilite solos
@@Damsellete nope
morax solos
@@tianlingqianye4556Last time I checked the world doesn’t need Morax to stay together but the world does need Neuvillete otherwise the Primordial water would just run out of control and flood the planet
The Sovereigns are so important to Teyvat because of how powerful they are, without them Teyvat falls apart and that doesn’t apply to Morax or any Archon. People are letting their love for Zhongli blind them from being honest
@@bgah7544 i dont love zhongli im talking based on the lore
You are dumb sovereign with elemental authority> Archon I can debate as well
It is too difficult for Archon glazers to face reality lmfao
Goku's 00000.1 % power is enough to destroy both of them ☠️
Goku meatriders 🤣🤣🤣
Even i am enough to set goku flying 🤣🤣
@@jinwoo-245 phh
@@jinwoo-245 mf cant handle the truth 😏
@@jinwoo-245 those anime series u watched were made bcuz of the Dragon Ball series(father of all animes).
immature kid doesnt know when to pick a fight and with who, u could say that gently(even tho it doesnt make sense to me cuz im not some1 like u who says anything about something that he doesnt even know about)
judging characteristics for which we do not have exact data is a bit misleading 😕
It's just alike Primordial Kyogre Vs Primordial Groundon?❤😂
ayo
zhongli has killed and captured more gods than neuvi has seen in his entire life
You Forgot that Dragon Sovereign were Fight Primordial One and make them flee, of course Morax has killed most of the gods back then when archon war, but it's different with sovereign that have elemental with full authority. Meanwhile All archon doesn't have full control with they're elements cause.
Sovereign dragons are the most powerful creatures neuvillette is orginal hydro ruler of tevyat
@@noisykitty1 sovereign can only harness their full potential power untill and unless the archon dies as of current situation the archons r more powerfull than dragon sovereigns due the primordial one giving most of their elemental authority to the archons as u can see abt the apep and azadha there r weekly bosses which we can kill even tho we r a chracter which cannot be compared to a dragon sovereign
and as of neuvillette he has regained his powers but he is deprived of the knowledge of this powers so currently only ei, venti and zhongli can be considered strong in the whole tevyat (not including cryo archon and fatui)
including dvalin
@@ErrorCraftedU venti is the weakest archon right now because he gained most of his powers after archon war and as far as we know and venti chooses not to rule mondstadt in a visible way. zhongli is adeptal dragon and neuvillette is sovereigns are the strongest creatures if talking about killing azhada and apep it's needed for the genshin mechanism to play the characters and make the game harder and intersting. the story and the game things are defferent because you can see mualani roll in natlan storyline she is not powerful like neuvillette or raiden but she does more dmg then neuvillette and raiden I'm tanky case
I collected 100 wishes Neuvillette in 80 wishes Zhongli weapon in 10 wishes(I wanted neuvillette weapon😅)
And the last 10, I got ZHONGLI 🤩🥳
Now I am going to share my comment in every RUclips comment box 😂🎉
Old is Gold ,Zhongli will calps neuvilette
Nop never if it is neuvillette true form then never zhongli can't win tho but if it is reincarnated one then ye there is a chance for zhongli to win against neuvillette
Sovereign Dragon's > Prime Archon's
Capitano defeated pyro sovereignty as a mortal 😂 zhongli is still better because pyro sovereignty was stronger hydro sovereignty
@@RomanHaldar Capitano did not defeat the Pyro Dragon. They defeated the first Pyro Archon and the fire-breeding sage Pyro dragon. This was because the Pyro dragon's power was stolen and cursed by the Abyss.
Also, it is not stated anywhere that the Pyro dragon is stronger than the Hydro Dragon. Please do not comment with incorrect information.
@@Certifiedotaku6t9 I don't know about that gameplay Neuvillette isn't like the cannon one. (Reality speaking) If Zhongli spawns a meteorite or the giant sword we see Neuvillette can't do anything about it.
Also his prime self has forms like phases you could say so speaking Neuvillette can't beat Zhongli not like that fights going to be present anyway.
(Btw I love Neuvillette long hair 📸)
Zhongli was indeed the strongest god in liyue and became archon after defeating multiple gods but that doesn't mean that he was the strongest god in teyvat or that he was the strongest archon in history. Looking at just feats, he falls short of Xbalanque and Deshret.
And the goddess of heavenly principals trounces him
I saw somone say morax us the weakest archon ever and ei is the powerful in comment section such a joke😂😂
a sovereign raw power is much more than an archon
Have u even read lore before....😂he dragged a freaking geo sovergion across teyvat
Wdym?
I don't think azhdaha is the geo sovereign though wasn't he just a dragon out of nowhere who just became zhonglis friend?(I might be wrong)
Azdaha is a Rock Morax gave life too later he went berserk and Morax Locked him Sovereigns with Elemental Authority>>Archons with Gnosis
@@TOAST-D-BREAD the Celestials already beat the sovergions zhongli just happened to find the actual geo sovergion and he gave him a life and zhongli isn't even archon level literally he's the Sun god dues- he can literally create mora from his flesh so....
@@Animeblitz69 TF u on about?
Try reading Azdaha was a "Rock" crying in pain while Archon war times when Morax decided to give him life
edit is just too good
Man the lore community is finished... Neuvillette is literally debunked... He is not the same sovereign from back then, Nahida literally told us Elemental sovereign dragons only gain power with Age just like most other elemental beings, and Neuvilette is barely 500 Years old, in addition, he canonically has only one attack that he has to charge up and not only is it just a little water shower, so easy to avoid because he can't aim it at multiple places, he is finished Even Characters like Xiao, Cyno , Albedo, Wanderer, Arlecchino they all Clap Neuvillette hard. He is featless and his only "ok feats" are just dogsh!t. Compared to someone like Raiden with Reality Manipulation, cutting trough space and time, Severing the sky open, cutting all of Inazuma in Half with the same single strike She killed Orobashi, and This is her BASE WEAKEST FORM ( She isn't an Archon here and doesn't have the gnosis and still has such feats. I can continue but you get the point) Most of Genshin Clocks Neuvillette and people need to realise that instead of having Surface level reading comprehension and only reading that one part about the Sovereign dragons without taking into account all of the other,more important factors. Also Feats>Statements. The All devouring Whale was stated to devour whole worlds and could devour teyvat if it wanted, yet 5E Traveler managed to Stop the whale ( with Neuvillette stunning the whale, still doing zero damage though) and The Traveler is a Arlecchino Victim. This would literally mean Arlecchino>5E Traveler>Whale>Teyvat and we all know that's not true.
Worst take I’ve ever seen, it took Celestia with their Shades and the Primordial one to take down 7 dragons, that alone already discredits Zhongli who is only an Archon who works under Celestia and can’t even attempt to rebel against them.
This isn’t mentioning that we’ve already seen Neuvillette use his power over Hydro to affect Fontanians across the entire planet while Zhongli has never shown or even been said to control Geo across the entire planet, also did you forget that the Narwhal was powered by Primordial water? The literal life blood of the planet that only Neuvillette can control, the fight was literally only an issue because it was using his own power against him. Also Nahida didn’t say Dragons are only strong when they’re old, they simply get stronger with age. Also you’re wrong again because Neuvillette is confirmed 1000 years old, this is from the direct Chinese translation of what Furina says during the past Lantern Rite.
It’s also just straight up wrong for the fact that Neuvillette himself says he has power in spade to take on any of the current Archons and Neuvillette doesn’t lie or exaggerate thanks to his centuries as a judge and his personality overall. When he can’t fully take on the Narwhal he asks for help and says as much and even thanks others for their contribution such as Tartaglia. You’d have to find evidence that Neuvillette is intentionally lying/exaggerating to claim that what he says isn’t true
Blind obsession to Zhongli is making it hard for you to be objective and you’re making false claims, if we get new information that gives us further insight into who and what Zhongli really is then ofc this could change but the current information so clearly shows us that Neuvillette is physically stronger than any living Archon at the moment
(Man the lore community is finished.
Neuvillette is literally debunked... He is not the same sovereign from back then, Nahida literally told us Elemental sovereign dragons only gain power with Age just like most other elemental beings, and Neuvilette is barely 500 Years old, in addition, he canonically has only one attack that he has to charge up and not only is it just a little water shower, so easy to avoid because he can't aim it at multiple places, he is finished Even Characters like Xiao, Cyno , Albedo, Wanderer, Arlecchino they all Clap Neuvillette hard. He is featless )
No he ain't debunked at all most of the things are false In that debunk+ content creator is biased hypocrisy misleading+ providing misinformation to people's
Wrong Nahida never stated dragon gain power through ageing that's lack of context also Nahida never meant that way
She said apep has been around longer and gain dense elemental power
And later in story explained how apep gain elemental power through absorbing king deshret
Apep: When Al-Ahmar's proud kingdom collapsed, I swallowed him whole as I agreed and absorbed his elemental power.
The cause of apep gain elemental power not cause ageing but absorbing the elemental elemental power of forbidden knowledge
And kind deshret was contaminated by forbidden knowledge
She was absorbing elemental power of forbidden knowledge to continue war against userper
So idk why people's not read stories properly and believe debater
Neuvillete charged attack ap pierced the durability of continental level lol
Skirk also implied neuvillete power to be beyond tevyat level
Implied that no one can achieve in tevyat powerful enough to defeat all devouring narwhale
@@boshlovely2002
- It took the Primordial one 40 years because the Sovereigns were amplified by Forbidden Knowledge that does not exist anymore in Tevyat. Not even bringing up the fact that Neuvi is nowhere near the original hydro sovereign.
- This has nothing to do with strength. He shot a Hydro Beam in the sky which traveled across the continent in an unquantifiable amount of time.
- You mean the same Narwhal that overpowered Neuvilette in 3 seconds and was still inferior to Childe?
- Nahida says that dragons gain strength by age, correct. Azhdaha is older than Zhongli and therefore much stronger than Neuvilette. Azhdaha is still inferior to Neuvilette.
- Furina’s voiceline is dubious and unreliable. She quite literally says “If i remember correctly”. 4.6 world quest proves that Neuvi could only be born after Egeria’s death. Wings of wrathful, Merciful waters also imply this, and Neuvi’s character stories say that Egeria suppressed the hydro dragon.
- Neuvilette never says that he has the power to take on any of the archons. This is complete, unadulterated headcanon. He says that he is capable of judging them which he already says that is not inherently related to combat. Neuvilette says he can judge the gods, not that he would necessarily win any confrontation that comes as a result of that.
@@Normalguy-f8v
> “No he ain't debunked at all most of the things are false In that debunk+ content creator is biased hypocrisy misleading+ providing misinformation to people's”
As if you can even remotely refute any of the points lmao.
> “Wrong Nahida never stated dragon gain power through ageing that's lack of context also”
She quite literally says that Apep is older therefore stronger.
> “She said apep has been around longer and gain dense elemental power”
Yes, which is power.
> “And later in story explained how apep gain elemental power through absorbing king deshret
The cause of apep gain elemental power not cause ageing but absorbing the elemental elemental power of forbidden knowledge And kind deshret was contaminated by forbidden knowledge. She was absorbing elemental power of forbidden knowledge to continue war against userper”
When she says this, she is specifically referring to the forbidden knowledge. However, this forbidden knowledge was erased from Tevyat and she lost all of it. Despite that, she is still stated to have more elemental energy because she’s older. Apep with no FK was stronger than Dvalin because she is older. You should read the quest properly.
> “Neuvillete charged attack ap pierced the durability of continental level lol”
Neuvilette is nowhere near continental nor does he scale to it as he needed to charge up for a long ass time. Also, even childe was able to pierce the whale.
> “Skirk also implied neuvillete power to be beyond tevyat level
Implied that no one can achieve in tevyat powerful enough to defeat all devouring narwhale”
No she didn’t. She said that she was surprised that people like Traveler and Neuvi was able to beat the whale without power from beyond as power from beyond is generally far superior to the normal elemental powers. It’s not everyday she sees this lmao.
She also said this and proceeds to have a full blown conversation with all 3 of us, which includes paimon. So paimon > Tevyat now?
@@_datsu 1. Yup all just were assumption based on Chinese translation
In which powerful sentence ain't present which is stated in other localisation
2. Prove it Nahida said apep is stronger bcoz he's older
Headcanon and assumption
3. Elemental power
Yes which she gained through swallowing king deshret who was contaminated by forbidden knowledge
4. Apep is stronger than dvalin not stated
Coz of being old
5 i never said neuvillete scale to continental you've reading comprehension I said he's charged beam AP pierced the durability of Narwhal which is continental level
Childe didn't do shit except bouncing he
Narwhale keep absorbing primordial water and he was just bouncing it but didn't do any damage
That was neuvillete beam as it ignore durability mechanical feature in game
metachurl shield it's ignore
And neuvillete beam across the whale which childe polearm didn't therefore he didn't pierced
6, yup all that elemental power from neuvillete however
Skirk conversation with traveller paimon as well coz they were present along with neuvillete
(And skirk wanted to talk again to neuvillete not traveller paimon again )
As neuvillete said do you believe we meet again and skirk said yeah we do
Only two people's present at This time skirk and neuvillete and skirk shown her intrest of meeting of neuvillete again
Prove neuvillete stronger than childe
Skirk after saw him throw him like garbage didn't want to talk to him
Current strongest dragon is apep duhh
It's capitano (Nibelung) 💀
@@XilonenXimp Lmaoo NO...
No she havent regain her authority
current Apep is pre gnosis Scaramouche's victim
W edit
Nah, Morax/Rex Lapis/Deus Ari/Zhongli's story is far from over, meaning we still don't know his backstory aside from the Archon Wars.
He is the oldest character we currently know of at 6000+ years old, he is also implied to have witnessed the creation of Teyvat in the description of the Mist Veiled Primo Elixir.
Also remember that there is an assumption that he is not originally from Teyvat as it is stated in the book "Stone Tablet Compilation Vol: 1" that he was "Descended" even in the original Chinese it is written as "Demoted" (possibly from another world justru like us the Traveler or even from the Celestial) and this assumption is strenghten by the fact that he seems to be unaffected by Irminsul after the events of Sumeru Archon Quest. Also did i mention about the story of the Sun Charriot who fell into the Chasm from 6000+ years ago? It really does fit him perfectly!
I just hope Hoyo will give us another Zhongli story that will tell us about his origins and how he became an Archon (Please adapt it into Anime Hoyo!!).
Btw this edit its soo Goated brooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
sovereign dragons lived before every other creature in teyvat
He just said that Zhongli was there before the creation of teyvat@@achqvwxyz9230
@@achqvwxyz9230and sovereigns came after its creation
People really underastimate zhongli lore wise
Наоборот они его переоценивают
Sovereign > archon >>> top 3 fatui
Respect the oldest archon don't conpare him to neuvillete cuz they are different.. from each other and zhongli is still the strongest in teyvat even without his gnosis his still have his sovereign power dragon... All of his prime and 1st descender of teyvat he knows all history even traveler sibling is and destroyed khaenriah
read the lore again. Dragon Sovereigns are stronger than any kind of god including Archons.
I don't know how people think that someone who just adapted the element and harness its power defeat a being who rules over the element, who is born in it moulded by it.
Neuv was born with the hydro element
@@Ruinousria That's what I am saying, he is literally the embodiment of an element.
@@Noname__55 sorry I thought you were taking about neuv adapting element energy
@@Noname__55 but I still have doubt that neuvi can win cause morax was strong without gnosis he have the title to kill the most gods . Neuvi just had more control over the element than him but morax has battle experience, battle iq etc and might be more strong than him in physical strength
@@Ruinousria I don't think so, cause No archon can hold against the celestia and the dragons fought them for 40+ years.
Hey, wanna collab?
Isn't Prime Morax the strongest in Genshin lore overall?
Archon/God sure maybe.
The heavenly principles and the sovereigns are stronger.
Neuvillette is the Hydro Sovereign
Not now that hoyoverse confirmed that neuvillette is stronger than archons
Neuvi is just a reincarnation not a real sovereign @@levisstories7733
What song is it?
No way
Morax > neuvilette >=< ei > zhongli
@@Momoprincess2005Don't mind the above person,they're archon glazers nothing will get past them
@@HarbingerOfDawN_ zhongli powers don't come for the authority 🙆of gnosis or blah blah
@@Animeblitz69 Neither am I saying that, it's just a fact that dragon sovereigns are stronger than archons,before the 500 year old battle they were either just spirits, elemental beings or just normal gods,it's only after the most strongest, unparalleled, undefeated Character that is the Primordial one literally soloed the entirety of teyvat and defeated everyone,were the archons given a nation etc,the dragon sovereigns be it a reincarnation or whatever are still stronger than the archons,only ones who can defeat them maybe the shades or the primordial one or maybe some endgame level abyss character
@@HarbingerOfDawN_ where was it stated that sovergions >zhongli
@@Animeblitz69zhongli is an archon he won the authority of geo stated by neuvillete
Bro love your edits you gor a new subscriber 🙂👍❤️
Guys Zhongli is also a sovereign💀
No he's not he's an adeptus
Zhongli is a adeptus that can change his form
Where is this wrong info coming from? Zhongli is not a Sovereign, Celestia went to war with the dragons to take away power from the Sovereigns, so unless you have proof explain why they would let him keep his power?
In which world
💀💀💀
think about it, when zhongli can't be defeated so he's the winner, jade shield can't break by water
You are right for neuvilite stronger than archon but i think neuvilite win extra diff because zongli bigger age and win archon war and i think he is one of shade of fhanes so yaeh
Hoyo never stated that sht!!
How about you think of what’s actually been proven and stated instead of saying “I think Zhongli is a shade of Phanes” sure he’s older but that doesn’t outweigh hacks, if anything it probably makes him weaker.
bro shades are higher than archons
a shade would never demote themselves to archon position 😂
@@UltraInstinct509 did you play word quest of natlan if you play you know that past archon had the same power from shade of death
@@holdensims6026 l said that because the past archon of natlan had the same power from shade of death
İmmovable object VS unstoppable force!!
🗿🥂🗿
Firetruck vs Great Wall China
Real, both are my fav
Just forget the comparison just think morax and neuvulitte vs abyss 💀
Song name brother
judas
Best defense Zhongli
Best DPS Neuvillette
zhongli is best his experince is unmatchable and in combat experince is so important .. morax wins
Ngl but now I want to see azhdaha vs neuvilette💀
Hmm I have the diff to be higher according to me and the match is kinda unpredictable one as skills , weaponry , terrain , etc also play a vital role so not sure but you should increase the diff according to me as he also has a gnosis . also this the neuvillette who had the sovereign authority which he once had before reincarnation na ?
It's even lower 👻😌
Im sorry neuvillette stronger than zhongli is not realistic in lore sense..
This 2 Guys i Defeat everyone in Geshin Impact easy, sow, sow easy 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯
I think zl will lose becoz of erosion. Raiden will probably not have that issue.
Also zhongli:5000 years old
@@JustGolight6000
If Ei joins battle 😈😈😈😈
I'm so biased to think that Morax would beat Neuvillette.
BUT I GOTTA SMAK MY SELF CUZ NEUVILLETTE IS A SOVEREIGN.
This dude really said neuvillette a dragon under 2000yrs old rivals prime morax (a being who has been said to transcend the realm of power in a fight against an ACTUAL god) a dragon currently 6000+, Hr might be special in the head
What is Hax
Zhongli is a dragon but kind of adepti.
Neuvillete not just a common dragon, he is a sovereign dragon who is more greater over the other dragon.
Zhongli is the creator of everything and place where neuvillete grow up, zhongli is the strongest in whole teyvat except celestia
Even if the theories are true Zhongli is nothing but an invader alongside the Primordial One and the rest of the Shades.
Teyvat was the home of the Sovereigns not him
Main character full power(Lore) > Teyvat, maybe Celestia
Both are goats I love both of them
But nevui is definitely stongest he can defeat all archons
Oksy heres a crazy one Neuvilette vs Xbalanque
Ok Neuvillette fan your win..😂
Neuvilette being the strongest sovereign today solely because he’s the only one not dead and free
I want to see Apep as playable character.
Hey neuvillette is a dragon how can he lose stamina. 😅😅😅
Rocks need not protection from the rain....
Yes those rain broke the rock and made them into simplest form when the earth was forming lol
Your statement is out of sense and stupid do science classes.🤡
Even the water can cut diamond who is rock then 🤡🤡
Mere pass to dono h
neuvillete with gnosis 💀
Quick question... Wtf why does Neuvi is older than Zhongli?... Was he participated at all the catastrophe event in teyvat???
barbatos can solo on lore
What the neuvillette was more experienced person admin bot
We know nothing about Zhongli's past but considering he is just an OP Archon, Neuvillette low diffs
Neuvillette surely will win because he is a Sovereign is the rival of Primordial One, the highest Tevyat God.
Nah zhongli wins after he throws qiqi in neuvilettes next 5 star 50/50
Lol sovereign are much stronger and experienced one tho lol and in lore it is said that sovereign ruled over tevyat before archons so experience goes to neuvillette if it is his true form then no chance for zhongli but if this is reincarnated one then i don't know i guess tie? Or zhongli wins
I don’t get why people are saying Zhongli would easily defeat Neuvillette. The dragon sovereigns are literally stronger than the archons and now that Neuvillette has his authority back he’s much stronger.
You're totally right, but you know what, it is too difficult for Archon glazers to face reality lmfao
Bro it's not accurate like latterly zhongli win how does he not have note strength this neuvillette
Neuvi ext diff in my opinion
7k exp can make zhongli take advantage in fight
The Genshin fanbase sure is quite the show🍿🥤.
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Strongest ❌
Oldest ✔️
Water vs Geo lol hydro is useless even in game to geo
Dragon sovereign are source of elemental power and archons just using their power technically he is more strong
Goddamn guyz finally imma get Zhongli On the comin Banner 5.2 wish me Good luck🙏🫠
Bro why even adding stamina when the stamina is based on the travelle's stamina