Wolves are the symbolic embodiment of Carian nobility, according to the Blue Wolf Shield. Some additional evidence reinforcing this: -We receive the spirit ash of 3 wolves from Ranni, Carian Princess. -Wolves are found outside of Ranni's tower, in the graveyard behind the Carian Manor, and Dire Wolves are found inside the manor grounds -Blaidd is a half wolf, and shadow/sworn sword of Ranni -despite being associated with the red haired Radagon, who only married into the Carian line, Red Wolves are found in the manor, Raya Lucaria, and atop the lunar plateau that once had several towns home to moon worshippers, including the Carians. The game goes pretty hard making this connection in the base game, before explicitly spelling it out for us in the DLC. So when we see something like the statues in Faram Azula, everything points to the girl being a Carian, despite not a single item description, dialogue line, item placement, or enemy placement* even remotely suggesting any sort of connection. Of course, there's one wolf I neglected to mention until right now, because he's the big black anime sword wielding elephant in the room - Malekith. Marika's Shadow. It's crazy, I know, but everything is pointing to Marika being a Carian. "But how can she be a Carian when we KNOW she's a Numen shaman from the Land of Shadow??" you might be asking. First off, settle down, I can't hear you anyways. Secondly, who said any of these things needed to be mutually exclusive? Much has been said linking the Numen to the Nox, going to far as to say they're the same. They're not, that's a dumb theory on its face; we have both Numen and Nightfolk (Nox) as options during character creation so they're clearly seperate groups. But that doesn't mean that the connections that theory is based on don't exist. The Numen are a whole essay in themselves, but for this topic the key takeaways are that Marika is one, and that Numen have lived among the Nox in the Eternal cities. This establishes a pretty solid connection between Marika and the Nox now. The sigil of Nox magic is very similar to that of the Carian sigil. Remarkably similar. Similar enough that one could say that the Carians are, or at least were, a prominent Nox family with a fairly high degree of certainty. As much certainty as you can say for most of this game's lore, anyways. So now we have our first major thread connecting Marika to the Carians. Our second thread is of course Radagon's marriage to Renalla. Since Radagon is Marika, we get another prominent example of GRRM's creative input, as the man continues to go beyond satire by being a real-world example of Flandersization that truly makes me wonder if we really do live in a simulation. A genius chronic procrastinator's use of incest as a literary crutch aside, let's take a closer look at the girl from the wolf statues. She looks young, but not a full on child. Like a 12ish year old girl, thereabouts. Now, I know people think that this girl is an enigma that we havent seen before, but I disagree. I think we have seen her before. Many times, actually. Liurnia is positively riddled with 2 things: follies, and statues of a young girl wearing a hooded cloak. Many of these follies actually contain a girl statue (folly has multiple meanings, look it up)(From absolutely knows about the definition I'm using here, they even have a grace named Folly on the Lake after one of them; I wonder how or if Ansbach's frequent use of the word has any connection?). The sheer volume of these statues tells me she is of great significance; what tells me that this significance is bigger than Caria and Liurnia is that these statues, and the follies as well for that matter, are found elsewhere in the lands between. They are quite ubiquitous in fact, on a level reserved for major symbols of the Golden Order. But just who would be such a major figure that she would not only be found in a hidden tomb for Carian nobles, but also a major figure in the Golden Order? While I can't say for sure without like 5 more essays laying out a foundation for this argument, for now I'll just say if Marika were to have once been important to the Carians before becoming Marika the Eternal, she'd fit that bill. And since the Land of Shadow was originally (and technically still is) part of the Lands Between, it's very much within the realm of plausibility that Marika, hailing from a small Shaman village, could have had a familial tie to the Carians, and over time elevated her position until she eventually was able to use the gate of Divinity to become a god Oh, and I almost forgot, Marika =the Gloam-Eyed Queen, so all this was really just providing more points in favor of your theory, albeit in an offensively wordy manner. Tldr wolves = Carians. Therefore the girl is a Carian. Carians = Nox, Nox = Numen, Marika = Numen, thus Marika = Carian, and is in all likelihood the subject of the statue. Marika is also the Gloam Eyed Queen, and so this statue = GEQ.
I was totally with you until you concluded Marika is the GEQ. Anyway, Marika's hammer and Carian Regal Scepter have the same style of shaft. I also seem to remember Maliketh's arena having Nox architecture on the roof. Very much sold on the idea that Numen and Carians are the same or closely related.
@Xandros999 there's 2 different eye "veils" in the DLC, the golden one and the eye of Occultation or whatever. Basically, one of light, one of dark. The tools used to "guide the flock" of the Golden Order. Both served to distort reality in either a positive or negative way, whichever will work best in the moment. I take these to both be tools of Marika. We know that gods can have multiple aspects; Marika of course has Radagon, and Miquella has St Trina, or at least did. I realize that technically he actually only had one aspect as a god, having shed his "other half", but I think Marika likely did the same when she ascended, which would explain Radagon suddenly appearing in the timeline in time to fight/fuck the Carians. But there's nothing saying a god could only have 2 aspects; in real world mythology, gods like Zeus, Apollo, Aphrodite, etc had numerous aspects, denoted by an epitaph. This is exactly what we see in Elden Ring with characters like Miquella the Kind, Starscourge Radahn/Promised Consort Radahn, Ranni the Witch, and of course Marika the Eternal. So basically the gold eye represents Marika of the Golden Order, while black represented the Gloam Eyed Queen, another aspect of Marika denoted by blackened eyes. We actually see her with these eyes, albeit in the form of Radagon, in the painting of Radagon in the Roundtable Hold. I know it's pretty tinfoil, but I have reasons to believe that several of the paintings have actually been altered from theit original depictions; I think the Radagon painting is exactly that. The painting originally depicted Marika as GEQ, but it was altered to depict Radagon. At some point, it became lost knowledge that Marika exists in many forms, and so she became seen as seperate from her other selves. This truth was aided in being removed from history in part by literally altering art, which was the most accessible means of recording history. Thus, Marika became seen as seperate from the GEQ, and in many ways was, as different as she was from Radagon. It's why Messmer broods at the base of a statue ostensibly of Marika and one of her children, yet this same statue is venerated by Hornsent, despite his hatred of Marika. In the GEQ aspect, she is the holy Mother and Baby, not the Eternal Queen that sent Messmer on his crusade
The symbol at the back that looks like the Elden ring, I think it is the Greater Will, because when you compare them, there are 3 more circles, the rune arcs are upside down, and they have those weird lines coming out
Connecting Maliketh to the GEQ helps support the theory that Marika is also the GEQ which has been gaining ground since the DLC. Since Maliketh would have been bounded to Marika early he should have been with her even as the GEQ in Farum. One could also make the connection of the GS Greatsword to the GEQ to Marika. I don't think it is coincidence that it is called specifically the Godslayer. And we know Marika enlisted Hewg to make a weapon capable of "slaying a god" If you take this at face value, Marika had Hewg make the Godslayer, which has obvious connections to GEQ. We know Melina was daughter of Marika, her hair and 2 colored eyes pointing at more unique genetic inheritance vs the other various children, probably meaning for one screwy Elden Ring story reason or another that Melina got more of the GEQ juice than the others. Kinda adds up but who knows.
Makes more sense she was the queen of Belurat and married Radagon, having Mesmer and Melina before being betrayed after said seduction. Remember, the story trailers are canon as well.
The woman with the 3 wolves is marika: Godfrey and Radagon are 2 wolves idk who the third is yet I haven’t played DLC yet. It’s also likely Marika is the Gloam eyed queen and that Malikeith destroying the gloam eyed queen and her following was both literal and metaphoric: Malikeith is marikas shadow given to her by the greater will; who’s to say whether she was always the vessel/apostle of the greater will….
pretty much spot on, but the secret is..there was >two< gloam eyed queens. one being from Faram, the other being Melina. i dont care to explain the connection but i believe in you
once you mispronounce a name that has been said countless times and is the focal point of the story, you get a dislike from me. Marika. It's like you didn't even play the game.
Wolves are the symbolic embodiment of Carian nobility, according to the Blue Wolf Shield. Some additional evidence reinforcing this:
-We receive the spirit ash of 3 wolves from Ranni, Carian Princess.
-Wolves are found outside of Ranni's tower, in the graveyard behind the Carian Manor, and Dire Wolves are found inside the manor grounds
-Blaidd is a half wolf, and shadow/sworn sword of Ranni
-despite being associated with the red haired Radagon, who only married into the Carian line, Red Wolves are found in the manor, Raya Lucaria, and atop the lunar plateau that once had several towns home to moon worshippers, including the Carians.
The game goes pretty hard making this connection in the base game, before explicitly spelling it out for us in the DLC. So when we see something like the statues in Faram Azula, everything points to the girl being a Carian, despite not a single item description, dialogue line, item placement, or enemy placement* even remotely suggesting any sort of connection.
Of course, there's one wolf I neglected to mention until right now, because he's the big black anime sword wielding elephant in the room - Malekith. Marika's Shadow. It's crazy, I know, but everything is pointing to Marika being a Carian.
"But how can she be a Carian when we KNOW she's a Numen shaman from the Land of Shadow??" you might be asking. First off, settle down, I can't hear you anyways. Secondly, who said any of these things needed to be mutually exclusive?
Much has been said linking the Numen to the Nox, going to far as to say they're the same. They're not, that's a dumb theory on its face; we have both Numen and Nightfolk (Nox) as options during character creation so they're clearly seperate groups. But that doesn't mean that the connections that theory is based on don't exist. The Numen are a whole essay in themselves, but for this topic the key takeaways are that Marika is one, and that Numen have lived among the Nox in the Eternal cities. This establishes a pretty solid connection between Marika and the Nox now.
The sigil of Nox magic is very similar to that of the Carian sigil. Remarkably similar. Similar enough that one could say that the Carians are, or at least were, a prominent Nox family with a fairly high degree of certainty. As much certainty as you can say for most of this game's lore, anyways. So now we have our first major thread connecting Marika to the Carians.
Our second thread is of course Radagon's marriage to Renalla. Since Radagon is Marika, we get another prominent example of GRRM's creative input, as the man continues to go beyond satire by being a real-world example of Flandersization that truly makes me wonder if we really do live in a simulation.
A genius chronic procrastinator's use of incest as a literary crutch aside, let's take a closer look at the girl from the wolf statues. She looks young, but not a full on child. Like a 12ish year old girl, thereabouts. Now, I know people think that this girl is an enigma that we havent seen before, but I disagree. I think we have seen her before. Many times, actually.
Liurnia is positively riddled with 2 things: follies, and statues of a young girl wearing a hooded cloak. Many of these follies actually contain a girl statue (folly has multiple meanings, look it up)(From absolutely knows about the definition I'm using here, they even have a grace named Folly on the Lake after one of them; I wonder how or if Ansbach's frequent use of the word has any connection?).
The sheer volume of these statues tells me she is of great significance; what tells me that this significance is bigger than Caria and Liurnia is that these statues, and the follies as well for that matter, are found elsewhere in the lands between. They are quite ubiquitous in fact, on a level reserved for major symbols of the Golden Order. But just who would be such a major figure that she would not only be found in a hidden tomb for Carian nobles, but also a major figure in the Golden Order?
While I can't say for sure without like 5 more essays laying out a foundation for this argument, for now I'll just say if Marika were to have once been important to the Carians before becoming Marika the Eternal, she'd fit that bill. And since the Land of Shadow was originally (and technically still is) part of the Lands Between, it's very much within the realm of plausibility that Marika, hailing from a small Shaman village, could have had a familial tie to the Carians, and over time elevated her position until she eventually was able to use the gate of Divinity to become a god
Oh, and I almost forgot, Marika =the Gloam-Eyed Queen, so all this was really just providing more points in favor of your theory, albeit in an offensively wordy manner.
Tldr wolves = Carians. Therefore the girl is a Carian. Carians = Nox, Nox = Numen, Marika = Numen, thus Marika = Carian, and is in all likelihood the subject of the statue. Marika is also the Gloam Eyed Queen, and so this statue = GEQ.
I was totally with you until you concluded Marika is the GEQ.
Anyway, Marika's hammer and Carian Regal Scepter have the same style of shaft. I also seem to remember Maliketh's arena having Nox architecture on the roof. Very much sold on the idea that Numen and Carians are the same or closely related.
@Xandros999 there's 2 different eye "veils" in the DLC, the golden one and the eye of Occultation or whatever. Basically, one of light, one of dark. The tools used to "guide the flock" of the Golden Order. Both served to distort reality in either a positive or negative way, whichever will work best in the moment.
I take these to both be tools of Marika. We know that gods can have multiple aspects; Marika of course has Radagon, and Miquella has St Trina, or at least did. I realize that technically he actually only had one aspect as a god, having shed his "other half", but I think Marika likely did the same when she ascended, which would explain Radagon suddenly appearing in the timeline in time to fight/fuck the Carians.
But there's nothing saying a god could only have 2 aspects; in real world mythology, gods like Zeus, Apollo, Aphrodite, etc had numerous aspects, denoted by an epitaph. This is exactly what we see in Elden Ring with characters like Miquella the Kind, Starscourge Radahn/Promised Consort Radahn, Ranni the Witch, and of course Marika the Eternal.
So basically the gold eye represents Marika of the Golden Order, while black represented the Gloam Eyed Queen, another aspect of Marika denoted by blackened eyes. We actually see her with these eyes, albeit in the form of Radagon, in the painting of Radagon in the Roundtable Hold. I know it's pretty tinfoil, but I have reasons to believe that several of the paintings have actually been altered from theit original depictions; I think the Radagon painting is exactly that. The painting originally depicted Marika as GEQ, but it was altered to depict Radagon. At some point, it became lost knowledge that Marika exists in many forms, and so she became seen as seperate from her other selves. This truth was aided in being removed from history in part by literally altering art, which was the most accessible means of recording history.
Thus, Marika became seen as seperate from the GEQ, and in many ways was, as different as she was from Radagon. It's why Messmer broods at the base of a statue ostensibly of Marika and one of her children, yet this same statue is venerated by Hornsent, despite his hatred of Marika. In the GEQ aspect, she is the holy Mother and Baby, not the Eternal Queen that sent Messmer on his crusade
nah bro Marika is not carian shes a jar saint
Pretty sure the spiral on the sword refer to the crucible
The symbol at the back that looks like the Elden ring, I think it is the Greater Will, because when you compare them, there are 3 more circles, the rune arcs are upside down, and they have those weird lines coming out
Connecting Maliketh to the GEQ helps support the theory that Marika is also the GEQ which has been gaining ground since the DLC. Since Maliketh would have been bounded to Marika early he should have been with her even as the GEQ in Farum. One could also make the connection of the GS Greatsword to the GEQ to Marika. I don't think it is coincidence that it is called specifically the Godslayer. And we know Marika enlisted Hewg to make a weapon capable of "slaying a god" If you take this at face value, Marika had Hewg make the Godslayer, which has obvious connections to GEQ. We know Melina was daughter of Marika, her hair and 2 colored eyes pointing at more unique genetic inheritance vs the other various children, probably meaning for one screwy Elden Ring story reason or another that Melina got more of the GEQ juice than the others. Kinda adds up but who knows.
Makes more sense she was the queen of Belurat and married Radagon, having Mesmer and Melina before being betrayed after said seduction. Remember, the story trailers are canon as well.
Nice touch on the similarity between the sword and the spiral storms. Great work!
Thanks! Appreciate you man :)
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Godwyn could turn into a Dragon?
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The child of GEQ and Placidusax was Marika.
That’s dumb and wrong
@@NeroAngelo2499 That's no less crazy than half the theories out there. And your manners are atrocious.
The woman with the 3 wolves is marika: Godfrey and Radagon are 2 wolves idk who the third is yet I haven’t played DLC yet.
It’s also likely Marika is the Gloam eyed queen and that Malikeith destroying the gloam eyed queen and her following was both literal and metaphoric: Malikeith is marikas shadow given to her by the greater will; who’s to say whether she was always the vessel/apostle of the greater will….
Marika is the Gloam Eyed Queen. So of course Maliketh was originally one of her supporters.
please. get help.
pretty much spot on, but the secret is..there was >two< gloam eyed queens. one being from Faram, the other being Melina. i dont care to explain the connection but i believe in you
Wat
once you mispronounce a name that has been said countless times and is the focal point of the story, you get a dislike from me. Marika. It's like you didn't even play the game.
its an ai voice
@@dstnddeath even worse!!