@@user-gk6nt5gi5n Scientific racism refers to the study of human biology in an effort to prove that white people were superior to all other races. Racism takes many forms, systemic and scientific racism are two different ones. :)
I think Zootopia is great because it was the first Disney movie (that I could actively recall) where a Disney main character is not just 100% right, and has to face their own flaws. Judy wants to overcome people's judgement against her but then had to address how she judged others, coming to terms that she was no better then those she thought were against her and then work to change.
That's the point, Judy's bias against Foxes had become subconscious. She only catches herself on seeing Nick is "harmless", but him hustling her only vindicates her subconscious bias.
@@PlanetZoidstar And that's because of a school bully that scarred her for life... literally, she was scarred by Gideon's claw marks on her cheek as a child. Ironically enough, that moment might've given Gideon a good thrashing by his parents, that by the time he became an adult, he starts selling pastries and partnered with Judy's own parents. This, combined with finding out Nighthowlers are actually a nickname for "Midnicampum holicithias", and Judy has come to realize how wrong she was the whole time. Even good people have their flaws when it comes to calculations.
@@robbiewalker2831There's also some prejudice against predators in this society. It becomes really clear in Judy's parents talk. Since she grown up in a small rural town this prejudice could be very constant in her life and definitely created her bias.
Fun fact: The moose reporter at 19:42, cohosting with the snow leopard? The moose is replaced with other animals depending on region. IIRC China/ Asia got a panda, Japan got a tanuki, and Australia got a koala. Edited because autocorrect autofailed. What is a leopaed phone? You fixed it this time!
Ah yes. The best animal in the world. Eats just toxic plant. Can't digest toxic plant. Can't recognise toxic plant unless it's on a tree. Eats sh-t to digest their food.
14:50 if anyone else didn't know what they meant, I think it's a reference to the 'schrodinger's cat' theory (if you seal a cat in a box with something that can eventually kill it, you won't know if the cat is alive or dead until you open the box. So, until you open the box and observe the cat, the cat is simultaneously dead and alive).
The movie by itself, in a vacuum, talks about racial prejudice, while still being family friendly under the guise of animal characters. So while the movie is discussing racism, this racism cannot be applied to humans, thus not making it not racist. Would I be partially correct? Also ☝️🤓
With Nick’s popsicle racket, he charged the hamsters $2 each and sold hundreds, while (s)he paid $20 for the original which was comparable in size (proportionally) to the homemade popsicles against the hamsters. This means they charge the same amount of money for food proportional to the buyer’s size.
It's the reason why Zootopia is mostly segregated because the economics of running such a hyper diverse society are nuts. For example, assuming that intellectual labor is worth about the same whether performed by a mouse or an elephant, it creates a natural class divide due to the massive gap in the cost of living between them.
That, in my mind, makes the racism allegory worthless. In human society everyone is equally capable (with infinitesimal minor differences) at the same tasks. Animals are by design inequal, therefore "racism" is inevitable because they are different species, basically aliens living on the same planet. Still, I liked the film.
@@docmaly2178 You do realize that humans are 1. animals, and 2. are not equally capable due to the societal positions they've found themselves (i.e. class mobility is often a pipe dream). The allegory still extends to that. Now, some segregation happens for the non-human to ensure that they do not squished or for basic safety/economical reasons (a mini train car tunnel for mice and such next to ones for medium-sized and larger helps save money, space, accidents, and is altogether more convenient for every party involved).
@@TheMonotonePuppet Personally, I seperate humans based on the fact we have sapience, whereas humans and animals have sentience. But that hardly matters because we don't deal with other species that can talk to us. But, in terms of social mobility, follow this: if you took any person and simply changed a detail about them, either face shape, hair eye or skin color, their merit-based abilities would be intact. If you were to do that with zootopia's inhabitants, problems would emerge because there are some things some animals can do that others can't becuase of their species. Judy's jump height and size helped her navigate parts of the city where larger animals couldn't, but she can't fight stronger opponents one-on-one without using her environment to even the odds. My point is that, regardless of race, we are all humans. Zootopia's story could've told the same message with aliens because everybody is a different species. The racism allegory, while well-intended, falls flat under scrutiny. I still like the film regardless.
The best parts of this video was them simping over Judy Hopps and when Jack got mad that there weren't any animal sized chairs, and when he saw the animal sized doors he called them segregated doors, as if he wasn't asking for animal sized stuff earlier.
19:00 yeah, that's a really common plot point in explicit fanfictions. Several of them have that exact plot point. Speaking of explicit fanfiction, did you know the respiratory system of rabbits does not go through their mouths? They breathe only through their nose. They can actually suffocate if they get a stuffy nose. This also means they can continue breathing even if something large were to be shoved down their throat. 🌈 The more you know 🌈
Huh that is an interesting fact about how Rabbits breathe, I'm sure this is nothing but an interesting comment on animal biology.....WAIT A FUCKING SECOND
It may be furrybait, but you can't deny it's intentions. The way Nick said, "Oh there's a 'them' now?", that cut pretty deep. I love this movie so much. The message is handled well, Judy and Nick make a great team and have great comedic timing, and Mr. Big and the DMV sloths are two of my favorite scenes in anything.
I love that children get exposed in a clear way to micro-aggressions. Blatant racism is kind of easy to control; it is the quiet racism, the racism that hides in scientific clothing, in thoughtless comments, in dismissive attitudes, that's the hard part to control, and the part that is, by design, meant to be invisible. Kids know it exists, but assume that it is relatively okay, based on adult behavior. By giving a very clear message of how it is NOT okay, it makes something that is somewhat vague easy to understand.
@@Hueyfreeman467 I'm not sure if it's easily found anymore but there was an extremely well done fan project back in 2018-19 that took the discarded movie points and fleshed them out into a story that was very compelling. I believe it stopped but its a very good, I dare say better, contrast to the story here even if it wasn't animated. If you'd pay good money to see that version I'd imagine you'd have the determination to find that little gem, given some time, so I wanted to share the info. its free and out there and still to this day I remember the art from the artist who did an insanely detailed illustration of a climactic scene of all the predator getting their collars released for the first time and they're having a party the likes of which are still in my memory. Mothers hugging their children and loved ones finally, predator kids laughing together, some finally having the right to cry letting it all out, and overall many others showing positive emotions that were suppressed by the dangerous collar they were forced to wear at birth in their slums (Because all predators were moved to one area away from prey animals in the city). If you are truly driven as I suspected I'm sure its possible to find and I hope this helps.
The problem with herbivore vs carnivore stuff is that many herbivores won't think twice about snacking on a baby bird, snake, or other small creature if given the chance.
Yeah, it's a pet peeve of mind that a lot of predator vs prey stuff assumes that all herbivores are meek grass eaters, and all carnivores are powerful and super strong, and conveniently shuffle omnivores around based on arbitrary conditions. In reality, animals like hippo and buffalo can absolutely crush you just cause, and maned wolves, despite being canines, mainly go after small rodents and insects for their protein. Also 50% of their diet can be fruit and stuff, they're adorable goofy giraffe fox weirdos.
8:17 lol the reason why this mouse looks weird is because it’s not a Mouse it’s a Shrew… which is the reason why Mr Big Makes sense, Shrews are the only rodents that can eat 10x their own size 😅
In all fairness, it's pretty clear Little Rodentia had pretty much zero law enforcement until Judy showed up. Heck, they couldn't even fit. Mr Big was the closest thing to public peace they had.
If you want a movie that, in my opinion, handles the racism allegory way better then I highly recommend Cats Don’t Dance. It’s a film set in 30s Hollywood about a cat who’s dream it is to become the next big actor, but has his optimism and naivety challenged by the structure of Hollywood at the time. It’s also beautifully animated and has a lot of great songs
Just downloaded it. I thought Zootopia was extremely heavy-handed and confused. It didn’t really know when to commit to the metaphor and when to play it for gags. Ended up a jumbled mess, and that’s from a guy who watched it with a bunch of multiracial kids; they weren’t very taken with it.
Depicitng ACTUAL opposing parts of the food chain and forcing them into a racial allegory can only ever come from a deeply indoctrinated racist mind that probably already lost the ability to do any better. These stories only work as a what-if story like vampirism, what IF the division WAS actually insurmountable, and at the end of the day it is fiction for the sake of the philosophy of it. This stuff like Superman now jsut abandoning what the grander philosophy IS, and only accepting direct parallels with our actual ongoing reality fr reads like some Birth of A Nation stuff.
Ehh...I liked Cats Don't Dance, of course, but it really fumbled the ending hard, with the typical "Good guys won, now racism is gone forever!" At least in Zootopia, you know that at the end of it, things are a little bit better, but overall, the "quiet racism" is still there.
Zootopia was one of the coolest modern Disney movies imo. I love the banter between the main characters. I enjoyed Zootopia Plus and i can’t wait for the sequel.
@@austinmccormick8952 we asking disney a company that profits off discrimination to make a sequel to a movie about discrimination... doesn't that set off any red flags?
What a nice and wholesome movie. I am sure fans of this movie have made nothing but nice and innocent art and fan comics that wouldn't make anything bad happen between the two main characters. 👀
What the creators expected from audiences: awakened their awareness on racism, drugs, and evil politicians What audiences took away from this: the animals are too hot and the furry community has been unleashed
You know, its kinda interesting how Judy's personality, at least towards the beginning film scene, reflects on real life. She basically virtue signals to Nick about people having backwards attitudes moments before she was basically getting ready to mace him for doing absolutely nothing. Says a lot about how the people who claim to be in support of the oppressed are really just projecting to hide their own bullshit.
No entrapment is forcing someone to commit a crime and then arresting them for it. What she does is technically just a legal circumvention of the requirement of a warrant to conduct a search, which has certain provisions where a Police officer isn't required to obtain a warrant to make entry to somewhere (such as any building if in pursuit of a suspect, imagine if you could just go inside any building and the Police had to obtain a warrant from a judge before they could follow you in through the door if you were running away, and various other things like a fire or animal/baby in distress it is pretty common for Police who want to make entry to claim they "heard a baby crying" and needed to break the door down)
6:00 He _is_ a criminal. But he also legally has all of the licenses and registration need to legally run his enterprises. Edit: as long as you don't consider the tax evasion.
“Oh my god she took an arrow to the knee!” There were a lot of hilarious moments that y’all clipped into this, but I think that was the moment y’all really equally laughed together that stood out the most. Always love seeing y’all watch more movies that are very entertaining to see get y’all to react wildly
Reminds me of that video where the dude made pickles out of stuff he found in a dumpster and sold it for really high prices claiming it was all organic and a recipe from his hometown
THANK YOU Not even mentioning that the paw shape was just made from his business partners actual bare foot (Meanwhile if Sonic the Hedgehog tried that hustle, he would be ROLLING in cash, there would be a waiting list for Sonic Foot Popsicles)
It's been a while, but damn, I forgot how good Nick's hustle was. Buy one popsicle and some small sticks, end up selling a few dozen little ice pops AND the remaining wood for a profit.
16:04 It wasn't entirely Judy's fault since there were plenty of factors left unexplained about the case. Judy and the media were merely going off of assumptions, and only after gaining insight about another name for a plant her family uses for pesticide does she realize that she and Nick were being led astray by those holding all the cards. Zootopia is actually a really good interpretation of the Fools journey. With Judy being the outsider to all that is happening. Judy is the Fool, and such she had great potential to find her goal and see it through. But, due to her lack of experience, she allowed herself to make an easy mistake that nearly ruined everything. Nick, in this case, is the Magician. Nick had great talent and insight to help Judy in the big city. But also to reluctant and immature at first.
Well so do we... I mean we have bear spray and bug spray. They are two different things and work in two different ways. And yes if you spray either in a person's eyes they're gonna be upset. What is more weird is they don't give the Rabbit a gun but they do have cars so clearly understand internal combustion, yet don't use force multiplier weapons for smaller animals that would need it.
13:14 I like how the mouse or rat (prey) or whatever he is trust his life with polar bears (predators). Compared to everyone else, the mafia is the most accepting of everyone from the start
In the Zootopia shorts it shows that he was kind to the polar bears as a kid, so they had his back from that point on. The Mafia is built on trust and exchange, any of those get mishandled and you can trust they'll take your blood in exchange instead.
Even though I love Zootopia, I think Beastars does the whole predator and prey allegory better in my opinion. You guys should give Beastars a watch when you have a chance.
Beastars is smart and makes it its own thing while having just enough real life references to allow it to mean anything and everything. You can't really call the characters racist, Homphobic, classist or anything of the sort when there's so much more, yet at the same time we see how the struggles and treatment don't make things better for anyone. It's a really nuanced look at it that for sure holds up in quality (Ignoring a certain last arc)
They do look at it from different angles. In Beastars, predators do have a biological inclination to hurt others, and so beastars looks at how that would then effect a society, and the struggles to overcome it. Meanwhile, in Zootopia, there is no biological component that makes one group more likely to commit crimes, but ppl assuming there is creates a systemic problem of discrimination.
I think this movie tackles the topic of racism much better than people give it credit for. The people who claim it's muddled and confused are viewing it through a very American-brand, White vs. Black lens. They're so caught up in trying to neatly correlate the prey and predators to modern day American race dynamics that they fail to recognize that racism and prejudice are much more complicated than that. The fact is, EVERY conceivable group is historically racist and/or prejudice against everyone else, and subgroups within races are still racist against OTHER subgroups. African tribes hate each other, Asian countries hate each other, Native American tribes hate each other, European countries hate each other, all those groups hate all the others simultaneously, and human history is a never ending laundry list of bad blood. The movie chose to depict the nature of prejudice as a whole instead of dumbing it down to correlate to the literal black and white mentality of modern America. It's a move that I agree with. Using animals as stand ins make the story much more universal and timeless, and the prejudices depicted in this animal society make sense to THEIR world. Trying to impose modern human race relations on an animal society would've surely fallen flat on it's face because it just doesn't correlate and trying to make it fit would've REALLY made the movie a jumbled mess. It makes sense for characters like Chief Bogo to harbor prejudice against a small, generally weaker animal like Judy, despite both being herbivores. Although they're part of the same 'group', Bogo is part of a completely different niche as a large herbivore with few predators. Is it a perfect movie? No, the third act definitely needed some retooling to keep it from dragging in my opinion. But it's a much more realistic and nuanced take on racism and prejudice than I see people saying.
Thankyou. I hate it when people try to view Zootopia's anti-prejudice message through the cliche black/white racism dichotomy. The makers have been very clear that Zootopia is telling an anti-PREJUDICE message, not an anti-RACISM message. When you try to claim Predators and Prey are stand ins for certain races, the allegory becomes extremely messy.
@@PossumPunx That's because Zootopia is not a racism allegory. It's a prejudice allegory. Did you actually watch the movie? The Nighthowler Serum also affects Prey, that is established when Judy goes home to her farm and learns a cousin of hers ate one of the Nighthowlers and went "savage". Showing Prey are just as prone to the effects as Predators are. The whole point of the movie is that there IS not justifiable reason for Predators and Prey to hate eachother. It was entirely fabricated by Bellwether, and whatever prejudices existed before were due to mistrust of the 'other' - biology had nothing to do with it.
It's crazy that Judy enters the police force, became friends with the mafia, uncovers a conspiracy at the highest levels, and unleashes citywide chaos (then leashes that chaos) in the span of what was pretty much the FIRST WEEK of her job.
"You're supposed to beat the criminal, then not read his right!" and "Mr. Otterton is a fucking DILF though." made me spit out my drink I swear that was a good chuckle.
What I love about this movie is that it handles predigest in a way few movies managae to by showing it can come from many different places. There's no clear aggressor so there is no group that can be solely villainised. It's just people doing what people do... except they're animals.
16:15 It's like when Hitler said: If every jew was like him there would be no killing. He was refering to doctor and I think he said something else at the end but yea one person of best them all.
The original story was way darker. "Preds" were made to begin wearing an electric collar by the age of 10, (maybe a little earlier, but 10 sounds about right blah blah hormones pre-teens).
i mean, if you're a cop first day on duty, i doubt there gonna put you in a dangerous situation just yet. chief bogo is completely within reason to deny her a case so early, not just because of her size, but also because its literally like her first week.
There's a documentary on Netflix about Police in Flint, Michigan which shows that actually no, in some Police forces you will literally be sent to a shots fired on your first day out of the academy
I always found Zootopia to be a "meh" movie, until I found a fan animated film on RUclips a few years back. It was ENTIRELY done by one person,animation, music, writing. All of it. And he was 17. It is meant to be like a sequal to this one where Nick and Judy have an open relationship, and are judged by society for it. It's really amazing. Now I can't help but appreciate the movie it came from.
@@annisaadams212 Yeah no damn way. It would be immensely cool if it turned out that guy was hired to help out on the production in any way, but no way will it top that shit. It was amazing, every aspect. Especially the story.
lowkey yall have the best editors on youtube, as a patreon subscriber i dont like waiting for stuff but this video is hilarious its worth the time they take
This movie suffered a lot from having it's entire original plot scrapped and have to start a new plot from zero 1 year before release and you can see it
Ok but imagine if the guys watched the fanmade sequel Return to Zootopia 😂 it’s like a super well done animatic with voice acting and sound effects, and if you’re a Judy/Nick shipper it’s definitely for you. It’s 2 hours long and the plot is actually quite good
I think with the chairs it’s about how consideration isn’t typically given for some people in architecture, like lack of ramps for wheelchairs for example.
Like. Judy was a little girl bullied by an older boy. She doesn't like to be called cute. She used her brains despite her size to get her job, like MULAN. The villain is a woman a secretary tired of being given orders. Do you see it?
16:53 I've seen lots of people who talk like that in the many floors me and Dad install. Me and my siblings are the rarity here in Arkansas, we are city kids actively living in rural places. And I don't plan on movin to any city any time in the future... EVER.
I watched this again and realized that there is no reason for a mammal inclusion initiative because there are no birds, fish, reptiles, or amphibians in this society.
I like that they treat Judy getting parking duty as being discriminatory, but honestly I imagine that most new cops get stuck in the shitty jobs until they get some sort of reputation built up
Hello RUclips fans, I want to play a game. Take a shot every time you hear the word “racist/racism” in the video. If you make it through 21 minutes without succumbing to alcohol poisoning, you win the game and will be set free. Live or die - the choice is yours.
I love the part where they keep talking about Breaking Bad, meanwhile in the movie, there's an actual line; "Alright Walter and Jesse are back so I'm leaving"
They're not bad parents, they are trying to teach their kid that the world isn't black and white and not everything is possible for everyone, which I respect. Sure it's a bit far to try and crush her dream job so early, and to try and prevent her from doing something which is possible however unlikely, but the advice to not raise your expectations too much is valuable.
I knew this movie had racism allegories but I never realized Judy was talking about scientific racism in that interview. This kids movie is insane.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE ME
@@wepozamer YOOOOO
I guess you truly were@@confusedbakugo1373 :)
Scientific racism 😂😂 do u mean systematic
@@user-gk6nt5gi5n Scientific racism refers to the study of human biology in an effort to prove that white people were superior to all other races. Racism takes many forms, systemic and scientific racism are two different ones. :)
I think Zootopia is great because it was the first Disney movie (that I could actively recall) where a Disney main character is not just 100% right, and has to face their own flaws. Judy wants to overcome people's judgement against her but then had to address how she judged others, coming to terms that she was no better then those she thought were against her and then work to change.
Compared to most other Disney movies it has a pretty mature plot and lots of morally gray characters.
i hatete all charaters execpt the cheap she chad
We forgetting that Belle slowly started coming around on the Beast, and didn't know he could become human?
Nah plenty of Disney protagonists screw up and have to learn a lesson
Another character is Hiro in BG6. It's not as big a point or nuanced as Judy, but Hiro realizing he's getting homicidal is confronted and overcome.
Judy started racial profiling the moment they see a fox and then acts so nice right after
That's the point, Judy's bias against Foxes had become subconscious. She only catches herself on seeing Nick is "harmless", but him hustling her only vindicates her subconscious bias.
Relatable
He was one one of the good ones
@@PlanetZoidstar And that's because of a school bully that scarred her for life... literally, she was scarred by Gideon's claw marks on her cheek as a child. Ironically enough, that moment might've given Gideon a good thrashing by his parents, that by the time he became an adult, he starts selling pastries and partnered with Judy's own parents. This, combined with finding out Nighthowlers are actually a nickname for "Midnicampum holicithias", and Judy has come to realize how wrong she was the whole time. Even good people have their flaws when it comes to calculations.
@@robbiewalker2831There's also some prejudice against predators in this society. It becomes really clear in Judy's parents talk. Since she grown up in a small rural town this prejudice could be very constant in her life and definitely created her bias.
Fun fact: The moose reporter at 19:42, cohosting with the snow leopard? The moose is replaced with other animals depending on region. IIRC China/ Asia got a panda, Japan got a tanuki, and Australia got a koala.
Edited because autocorrect autofailed. What is a leopaed phone? You fixed it this time!
Why did they change it?
@Alexxxplayzzgames They want to appeal to regional audiences. It's been done in Toy Story 2, Cars, Inside Out, Shrek 2 and The Lego Ninjago Movie
Ah yes. The best animal in the world.
Eats just toxic plant.
Can't digest toxic plant.
Can't recognise toxic plant unless it's on a tree.
Eats sh-t to digest their food.
What is it for canada? I didnt watched it for a long time
@@StevyfacedepetThe moose. I feel like that’s kinda obvious
16:21 Judy is the kind of person to fall for "it says gullible on the ceiling" and then charge the person who pranked them for vandalism
I do like the fact that the bully, Gideon, is treated like an actual 3 dimensional character, and implies that he went through therapy as a child
i think you like the character a lil too much..
Nah, he got his therapy for being balls deep into some bunny coochie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@FolfahHe enjoys his himbos, what can you say?
@@FolfahI appreciate a good character arc
Need him
“We love furries, and we love you. One of those things is a lie.”
It is quite hurtful to hear jack say he doesn’t love us.
😂😂
Pfft-
They're going through their Saberspark, "I'm not a furry" arc.
I hope they meant the part of that sentence
are you implying we're all furries?
-Gets dream crushed by family and bullies
-proceeds to achieve the dream
-established citywide racism in a week
-quits dream job
-refuses to elaborate
-unestablishes citywide racism
-gets back in police force
-brings her fox bf with her
-leaves
Also became friends with the local mafia...?
@@Montesama314actively used them to torture a guy 😂
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@@ArtsyLili -Refuses to elaborate
17:25 Trump Mugshot stare
14:50 if anyone else didn't know what they meant, I think it's a reference to the 'schrodinger's cat' theory
(if you seal a cat in a box with something that can eventually kill it, you won't know if the cat is alive or dead until you open the box. So, until you open the box and observe the cat, the cat is simultaneously dead and alive).
I’m the only person who’s replied to this, and probably the only person who read the whole thing, and yes I do know about Schrödinger‘s cat
@@ThisRedSheepYT Thanks for knowing, yet still reading it👍
I like it when there’s a long, informational comment that isn’t just 🤓☝️
@@ThisRedSheepYT Fair, 🤓☝ kinda comments get annoying fast
The movie by itself, in a vacuum, talks about racial prejudice, while still being family friendly under the guise of animal characters.
So while the movie is discussing racism, this racism cannot be applied to humans, thus not making it not racist.
Would I be partially correct?
Also ☝️🤓
The random cuts to ACTUAL horny Zootopia fanart is UNHINGED I love it LMAO
i ain´t a furry but damm she kinda packing ngl
this movie changed me
Dude I literally am watching this video in the library and I’m genuinely worried someone is going to see me😂
💀💀💀💀💀@@Rachey9
@@Randoomly-1SOMETHING IN ME JUST SNAPPED.
With Nick’s popsicle racket, he charged the hamsters $2 each and sold hundreds, while (s)he paid $20 for the original which was comparable in size (proportionally) to the homemade popsicles against the hamsters. This means they charge the same amount of money for food proportional to the buyer’s size.
It's the reason why Zootopia is mostly segregated because the economics of running such a hyper diverse society are nuts. For example, assuming that intellectual labor is worth about the same whether performed by a mouse or an elephant, it creates a natural class divide due to the massive gap in the cost of living between them.
That, in my mind, makes the racism allegory worthless. In human society everyone is equally capable (with infinitesimal minor differences) at the same tasks. Animals are by design inequal, therefore "racism" is inevitable because they are different species, basically aliens living on the same planet.
Still, I liked the film.
@@docmaly2178 You do realize that humans are 1. animals, and 2. are not equally capable due to the societal positions they've found themselves (i.e. class mobility is often a pipe dream). The allegory still extends to that. Now, some segregation happens for the non-human to ensure that they do not squished or for basic safety/economical reasons (a mini train car tunnel for mice and such next to ones for medium-sized and larger helps save money, space, accidents, and is altogether more convenient for every party involved).
@@TheMonotonePuppet Personally, I seperate humans based on the fact we have sapience, whereas humans and animals have sentience. But that hardly matters because we don't deal with other species that can talk to us.
But, in terms of social mobility, follow this: if you took any person and simply changed a detail about them, either face shape, hair eye or skin color, their merit-based abilities would be intact.
If you were to do that with zootopia's inhabitants, problems would emerge because there are some things some animals can do that others can't becuase of their species. Judy's jump height and size helped her navigate parts of the city where larger animals couldn't, but she can't fight stronger opponents one-on-one without using her environment to even the odds.
My point is that, regardless of race, we are all humans. Zootopia's story could've told the same message with aliens because everybody is a different species.
The racism allegory, while well-intended, falls flat under scrutiny. I still like the film regardless.
@@docmaly2178this is a kid’s movie with anthropomorphic animals, you sperg
“It’s called a hustle sweetheart” has been one of my catchphrases ever since this movie
Yea
mine too.
''one of my catchphrases 🤓''
This voice recording scene is a literal rip-off from Horrible Bosses. And considering how Jason Bateman was in that as well, it’s no coincidence….
@@tgsmokio Atleast spell it properly. 🙄
The best parts of this video was them simping over Judy Hopps and when Jack got mad that there weren't any animal sized chairs, and when he saw the animal sized doors he called them segregated doors, as if he wasn't asking for animal sized stuff earlier.
19:00 yeah, that's a really common plot point in explicit fanfictions. Several of them have that exact plot point.
Speaking of explicit fanfiction, did you know the respiratory system of rabbits does not go through their mouths? They breathe only through their nose. They can actually suffocate if they get a stuffy nose.
This also means they can continue breathing even if something large were to be shoved down their throat.
🌈 The more you know 🌈
Good to know
Huh that is an interesting fact about how Rabbits breathe, I'm sure this is nothing but an interesting comment on animal biology.....WAIT A FUCKING SECOND
Great now I have to go on Ao3 and look
Ayo?
Judy is the glizzy guzzler queen confirmed
It may be furrybait, but you can't deny it's intentions. The way Nick said, "Oh there's a 'them' now?", that cut pretty deep. I love this movie so much. The message is handled well, Judy and Nick make a great team and have great comedic timing, and Mr. Big and the DMV sloths are two of my favorite scenes in anything.
Yeah, that hit pretty hard.
The sloth scene is one of the most hilarious in all of animation.
Mr. Big is my favorite.
"May" be furrybait?
I love that children get exposed in a clear way to micro-aggressions. Blatant racism is kind of easy to control; it is the quiet racism, the racism that hides in scientific clothing, in thoughtless comments, in dismissive attitudes, that's the hard part to control, and the part that is, by design, meant to be invisible. Kids know it exists, but assume that it is relatively okay, based on adult behavior. By giving a very clear message of how it is NOT okay, it makes something that is somewhat vague easy to understand.
Nick and Judy's banter, from the very first interaction, fricking MAKES this movie for me. Nick is the jerk we all need in our corner.
"Jerk?"🤨🤨📸📸📸
“-off”🤨🤨📸📸📸
Yeppers
it's not that deep
@@salmonhippo9824??? What did they say that you thought was meant to be "deep"
Fun fact:In the original script for Zootopia to live in Zootopia all predators have to wear a shock collar.
Now i would pay good money to see that version of Zootopia.
@@Hueyfreeman467The writers choose to change that because that was waaaaay too dark for kids
@@ohmaplaymaker aaawwwww i would see it QwQ
i saw the video about the guy talking about that
@@Hueyfreeman467 I'm not sure if it's easily found anymore but there was an extremely well done fan project back in 2018-19 that took the discarded movie points and fleshed them out into a story that was very compelling. I believe it stopped but its a very good, I dare say better, contrast to the story here even if it wasn't animated. If you'd pay good money to see that version I'd imagine you'd have the determination to find that little gem, given some time, so I wanted to share the info. its free and out there and still to this day I remember the art from the artist who did an insanely detailed illustration of a climactic scene of all the predator getting their collars released for the first time and they're having a party the likes of which are still in my memory. Mothers hugging their children and loved ones finally, predator kids laughing together, some finally having the right to cry letting it all out, and overall many others showing positive emotions that were suppressed by the dangerous collar they were forced to wear at birth in their slums (Because all predators were moved to one area away from prey animals in the city).
If you are truly driven as I suspected I'm sure its possible to find and I hope this helps.
"Carrots" its like calling a black dude watermelons"
IM DEAD
The problem with herbivore vs carnivore stuff is that many herbivores won't think twice about snacking on a baby bird, snake, or other small creature if given the chance.
very true, there are no real herbivores
Zootopia: Pigs are prey.
Frank Reynolds: I've seen a pig eat a man. I've seen many pigs eat many men. It was a bloodbath.
Yeah, it's a pet peeve of mind that a lot of predator vs prey stuff assumes that all herbivores are meek grass eaters, and all carnivores are powerful and super strong, and conveniently shuffle omnivores around based on arbitrary conditions. In reality, animals like hippo and buffalo can absolutely crush you just cause, and maned wolves, despite being canines, mainly go after small rodents and insects for their protein. Also 50% of their diet can be fruit and stuff, they're adorable goofy giraffe fox weirdos.
Sausage from pig very good
Anybody who’s read the original Three Little Pigs should be terrified
Of the pigs
@@jareththegoblinking3191 or Animal Farm.
wolf and pigs are very tasty so nuh uh ill enjoy a nice bbq@@jareththegoblinking3191
13:21 "That's like calling a black guy 'watermelons'" lmaooo
It’s so true 😂
That's like calling an African a human 😭😭😭 (I'm legally allowed to make this joke since I'm african)
14:13 basically them saying “even tho your a NI-“
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8:17 lol the reason why this mouse looks weird is because it’s not a Mouse it’s a Shrew… which is the reason why Mr Big Makes sense, Shrews are the only rodents that can eat 10x their own size 😅
In all fairness, it's pretty clear Little Rodentia had pretty much zero law enforcement until Judy showed up. Heck, they couldn't even fit. Mr Big was the closest thing to public peace they had.
If you want a movie that, in my opinion, handles the racism allegory way better then I highly recommend Cats Don’t Dance. It’s a film set in 30s Hollywood about a cat who’s dream it is to become the next big actor, but has his optimism and naivety challenged by the structure of Hollywood at the time. It’s also beautifully animated and has a lot of great songs
Just downloaded it. I thought Zootopia was extremely heavy-handed and confused. It didn’t really know when to commit to the metaphor and when to play it for gags. Ended up a jumbled mess, and that’s from a guy who watched it with a bunch of multiracial kids; they weren’t very taken with it.
Depicitng ACTUAL opposing parts of the food chain and forcing them into a racial allegory can only ever come from a deeply indoctrinated racist mind that probably already lost the ability to do any better.
These stories only work as a what-if story like vampirism, what IF the division WAS actually insurmountable, and at the end of the day it is fiction for the sake of the philosophy of it.
This stuff like Superman now jsut abandoning what the grander philosophy IS, and only accepting direct parallels with our actual ongoing reality fr reads like some Birth of A Nation stuff.
@@TheCapedWanderer of course they weren’t Taken, that’s a different movie
Ehh...I liked Cats Don't Dance, of course, but it really fumbled the ending hard, with the typical "Good guys won, now racism is gone forever!" At least in Zootopia, you know that at the end of it, things are a little bit better, but overall, the "quiet racism" is still there.
YESSSSS they need to watch that! One of my favorites!
Zootopia was one of the coolest modern Disney movies imo. I love the banter between the main characters. I enjoyed Zootopia Plus and i can’t wait for the sequel.
Me too
2 furry 2 sexy
Are you sure about getting a sequel?
@carlosjaimez9028 why do you Ask?
@@austinmccormick8952 we asking disney a company that profits off discrimination to make a sequel to a movie about discrimination... doesn't that set off any red flags?
16:48 i can’t believe they didn’t caught joke of the “racist pig”
"Oh my god she's so small!"
"But she's big in the right places"
That killed me, man! 😂
What a nice and wholesome movie. I am sure fans of this movie have made nothing but nice and innocent art and fan comics that wouldn't make anything bad happen between the two main characters. 👀
Insert Zootopia abortion comic
what the fuck@@Meringuesnake
@@MeringuesnakeNOOOOOOOOOO THE FLASHBACKS 😭😭😭😭😭
@@Meringuesnake*insert Arby's version of the zootopia abortion comic*
@@Meringuesnakeor the MeatCanyon cartoon
What the creators expected from audiences: awakened their awareness on racism, drugs, and evil politicians
What audiences took away from this: the animals are too hot and the furry community has been unleashed
Hey, why not both?
😂
It's honestly really annoying and stupid. You can't even go around saying that you like the movie without getting weird looks 🙄
Blame the furries for it
idk as a poc and furry this ain't my fav movie lmao
12:59
THE HORRIFIED LOOK ON WILES FACE AND THE SFX MAKES WHAT HE SAYS 100X FUNNIER XD
9:23 Best moment of Spilling the Milk videos 💀
Ok the phrase "slick Nick with the thick dick" hits hard. Too bad it didn't get a response
4:27 “cuz you want to park that dump truck somewhere”
That really is a good one
17:20 Eden jumpscare timestamp
You know, its kinda interesting how Judy's personality, at least towards the beginning film scene, reflects on real life. She basically virtue signals to Nick about people having backwards attitudes moments before she was basically getting ready to mace him for doing absolutely nothing.
Says a lot about how the people who claim to be in support of the oppressed are really just projecting to hide their own bullshit.
Fun fact! What judy does at 11:37 is called entrapment, and real cops do it all the time!
No entrapment is forcing someone to commit a crime and then arresting them for it. What she does is technically just a legal circumvention of the requirement of a warrant to conduct a search, which has certain provisions where a Police officer isn't required to obtain a warrant to make entry to somewhere (such as any building if in pursuit of a suspect, imagine if you could just go inside any building and the Police had to obtain a warrant from a judge before they could follow you in through the door if you were running away, and various other things like a fire or animal/baby in distress it is pretty common for Police who want to make entry to claim they "heard a baby crying" and needed to break the door down)
It’s not entrapment it’s a no knock raid
And I assume it’s bad
6:00
He _is_ a criminal.
But he also legally has all of the licenses and registration need to legally run his enterprises.
Edit: as long as you don't consider the tax evasion.
It's an obligation xD
“Oh my god she took an arrow to the knee!”
There were a lot of hilarious moments that y’all clipped into this, but I think that was the moment y’all really equally laughed together that stood out the most. Always love seeing y’all watch more movies that are very entertaining to see get y’all to react wildly
How many health violations do you think Nick's "hustle" has?
Melting the ice in a dirty ceiling, and used sticks are probably not structurally sound.
Reminds me of that video where the dude made pickles out of stuff he found in a dumpster and sold it for really high prices claiming it was all organic and a recipe from his hometown
THANK YOU
Not even mentioning that the paw shape was just made from his business partners actual bare foot
(Meanwhile if Sonic the Hedgehog tried that hustle, he would be ROLLING in cash, there would be a waiting list for Sonic Foot Popsicles)
I feel bad for the editor that had to look up the Judy Hopps "fan art" for this video.
Yeah it’s gotta be hard to edit with one hand.
@@robertdelossantos5844 LMFAO you win
Don't worry, surely the boys already had the folders ready for the editor to work with.
I don’t think they minded too much
Oh yeah he def had a not ok search history after that
1:17 i fully expected him to say “Give up on your dreams and die” like Levi from AOT 💀
It's been a while, but damn, I forgot how good Nick's hustle was. Buy one popsicle and some small sticks, end up selling a few dozen little ice pops AND the remaining wood for a profit.
16:04 It wasn't entirely Judy's fault since there were plenty of factors left unexplained about the case. Judy and the media were merely going off of assumptions, and only after gaining insight about another name for a plant her family uses for pesticide does she realize that she and Nick were being led astray by those holding all the cards.
Zootopia is actually a really good interpretation of the Fools journey. With Judy being the outsider to all that is happening. Judy is the Fool, and such she had great potential to find her goal and see it through. But, due to her lack of experience, she allowed herself to make an easy mistake that nearly ruined everything. Nick, in this case, is the Magician. Nick had great talent and insight to help Judy in the big city. But also to reluctant and immature at first.
Notice who asked the Questions?
One of the 🐏 that where working for the sheep 🐑
The thing totally was staged by 🐑
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@@BenjaminKirbyTennyson0 bro shut up he’s just explaining to something
Since*
It’s a good story about this sort of stuff.
Jack is just a furry in his free time, isn't he?
Definitely
That sentence doesnt make any sense.
@@-gemberkoekje-5547yes it makes perfect sense
@@-gemberkoekje-5547 it does
@@swift2512 It's like saying he has long hair in his free time.
I love how no one questions the fact that this world sells REPPELENT SPRAY FOR OTHER SPECIES???
"Hold on, son! Before you go to your new job, I want you to take this white guy repellent!"
Well so do we... I mean we have bear spray and bug spray. They are two different things and work in two different ways. And yes if you spray either in a person's eyes they're gonna be upset.
What is more weird is they don't give the Rabbit a gun but they do have cars so clearly understand internal combustion, yet don't use force multiplier weapons for smaller animals that would need it.
@@Montesama314more like black guy repellent,this is more accurate
@@arbuzz7373
Not really.
Think of them as childs in a world of adults sithout any way to defend themselves.
The doors are segregated for a simple reason... the big animals won't accidentally step on the little ones.
13:14 I like how the mouse or rat (prey) or whatever he is trust his life with polar bears (predators). Compared to everyone else, the mafia is the most accepting of everyone from the start
In the Zootopia shorts it shows that he was kind to the polar bears as a kid, so they had his back from that point on. The Mafia is built on trust and exchange, any of those get mishandled and you can trust they'll take your blood in exchange instead.
Even though I love Zootopia, I think Beastars does the whole predator and prey allegory better in my opinion. You guys should give Beastars a watch when you have a chance.
Beastars is smart and makes it its own thing while having just enough real life references to allow it to mean anything and everything. You can't really call the characters racist, Homphobic, classist or anything of the sort when there's so much more, yet at the same time we see how the struggles and treatment don't make things better for anyone. It's a really nuanced look at it that for sure holds up in quality (Ignoring a certain last arc)
They do look at it from different angles. In Beastars, predators do have a biological inclination to hurt others, and so beastars looks at how that would then effect a society, and the struggles to overcome it. Meanwhile, in Zootopia, there is no biological component that makes one group more likely to commit crimes, but ppl assuming there is creates a systemic problem of discrimination.
It did, until Beastars just devolved into romance angst and Legoshi torture.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 yeah the author did make Legosi suffer a lot, but I still think it’s a good story even the ending.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 because it wasn't that the whole time?
I love how Zootopia did an amazing job on just about everything... except the twist villain, which may well have been the worst one I've ever seen
the fox idk his name staret his own meth emprie 10/10 movie would reccomend agan
Like it literally could’ve been anyone I’m pretty sure they didn’t try to give clues at all
I keep hearing that everyone saw this villain coming and I’m so confused because when I saw this movie the reveal actually blew my mind
@@ikermontsame here, I feel like they did set it up a bit too so I have no idea what everyone is talking about.
I think this movie tackles the topic of racism much better than people give it credit for. The people who claim it's muddled and confused are viewing it through a very American-brand, White vs. Black lens. They're so caught up in trying to neatly correlate the prey and predators to modern day American race dynamics that they fail to recognize that racism and prejudice are much more complicated than that.
The fact is, EVERY conceivable group is historically racist and/or prejudice against everyone else, and subgroups within races are still racist against OTHER subgroups. African tribes hate each other, Asian countries hate each other, Native American tribes hate each other, European countries hate each other, all those groups hate all the others simultaneously, and human history is a never ending laundry list of bad blood.
The movie chose to depict the nature of prejudice as a whole instead of dumbing it down to correlate to the literal black and white mentality of modern America. It's a move that I agree with. Using animals as stand ins make the story much more universal and timeless, and the prejudices depicted in this animal society make sense to THEIR world. Trying to impose modern human race relations on an animal society would've surely fallen flat on it's face because it just doesn't correlate and trying to make it fit would've REALLY made the movie a jumbled mess. It makes sense for characters like Chief Bogo to harbor prejudice against a small, generally weaker animal like Judy, despite both being herbivores. Although they're part of the same 'group', Bogo is part of a completely different niche as a large herbivore with few predators.
Is it a perfect movie? No, the third act definitely needed some retooling to keep it from dragging in my opinion. But it's a much more realistic and nuanced take on racism and prejudice than I see people saying.
Thankyou.
I hate it when people try to view Zootopia's anti-prejudice message through the cliche black/white racism dichotomy.
The makers have been very clear that Zootopia is telling an anti-PREJUDICE message, not an anti-RACISM message.
When you try to claim Predators and Prey are stand ins for certain races, the allegory becomes extremely messy.
@@PlanetZoidstar prejudice regarding race is literally the exact same thing as racism with different wording.
@@fishscalecocaine What's your point?
@@PossumPunx Does it?
@@PossumPunx That's because Zootopia is not a racism allegory. It's a prejudice allegory.
Did you actually watch the movie?
The Nighthowler Serum also affects Prey, that is established when Judy goes home to her farm and learns a cousin of hers ate one of the Nighthowlers and went "savage". Showing Prey are just as prone to the effects as Predators are.
The whole point of the movie is that there IS not justifiable reason for Predators and Prey to hate eachother. It was entirely fabricated by Bellwether, and whatever prejudices existed before were due to mistrust of the 'other' - biology had nothing to do with it.
It's crazy that Judy enters the police force, became friends with the mafia, uncovers a conspiracy at the highest levels, and unleashes citywide chaos (then leashes that chaos) in the span of what was pretty much the FIRST WEEK of her job.
8:48 I've never understood this. "Mammal inclusion initiative." They are all Mammals in this universe.
The IRL equivalent would be the "human inclusion initiative" which does sound kinda weird
I wouldn't mind seeing a prequel movie/special showing more of Nick's or Judy's past.
As a matter of fact there is a sequel in the works.
"You're supposed to beat the criminal, then not read his right!" and "Mr. Otterton is a fucking DILF though." made me spit out my drink I swear that was a good chuckle.
What I love about this movie is that it handles predigest in a way few movies managae to by showing it can come from many different places. There's no clear aggressor so there is no group that can be solely villainised. It's just people doing what people do... except they're animals.
12:25 wheres the norm of the north reaction?
Yeah lol
13:24 bro laughed a little too hard
16:15 It's like when Hitler said: If every jew was like him there would be no killing. He was refering to doctor and I think he said something else at the end but yea one person of best them all.
This is hands down one of my most favorite movies, because of the issues it tackles, and not to mention that the pawpsicles look so good!
Metoo
Also I really love how Duke was selling rip-off/bootleg DVDs of Disney's own movies
Movie W because it shows the foxes meth emprie
You gotta give credit to the detail to the packet "carrot for one" with the watery packet
Don't tell them about Beastars...
I think Haru might give them a heart attack...
The wolf howling scene used to make my dog howl
The pictures straight up cropped from r34 is the most wild ahh thing you are doing in these videos
The original story was way darker. "Preds" were made to begin wearing an electric collar by the age of 10, (maybe a little earlier, but 10 sounds about right blah blah hormones pre-teens).
That makes it sound like they want to fuck the prey, not eat them lol. The instinct to eat comes in a lot earlier...
9:24
As a kid, I didnt know what was happening here, but now, that im older, I laughed *SO* Hard at this
SAME
i mean, if you're a cop first day on duty, i doubt there gonna put you in a dangerous situation just yet. chief bogo is completely within reason to deny her a case so early, not just because of her size, but also because its literally like her first week.
I somehow only just now put that together after watching this movie multiple times.
There's a documentary on Netflix about Police in Flint, Michigan which shows that actually no, in some Police forces you will literally be sent to a shots fired on your first day out of the academy
It was more than her first day tho, and there didn't seem to be an indication that she was ever getting out of it
I felt so dirty searching up “zootopia spilling the milk” that I deleted the search
note that this movie went through SEVERAL rewrites, with the previous versions being far more racist
10:47 Agreed he was looking way farther than the top of her head.
Well who wouldn’t. I know I would.
The doors weren’t segregated. They have different sizes for safety reasons.
Safety racism lol
I always found Zootopia to be a "meh" movie, until I found a fan animated film on RUclips a few years back. It was ENTIRELY done by one person,animation, music, writing. All of it. And he was 17. It is meant to be like a sequal to this one where Nick and Judy have an open relationship, and are judged by society for it. It's really amazing. Now I can't help but appreciate the movie it came from.
YES I LOVE THAT FAN FILM TOO like I don’t think Disney’s sequel is topping that
@@annisaadams212 Yeah no damn way. It would be immensely cool if it turned out that guy was hired to help out on the production in any way, but no way will it top that shit. It was amazing, every aspect. Especially the story.
Not that mid fan-film that ripped off a popular fanfiction from the community at the time.
@@willfanofmanyii3751Did he make it better than the fan fiction?
@@samthelion3925your a freak
7:52 eating donuts
This is why they need judy 😔
Not sure if yall noticed this but in the lab train thing there were two other animals named walter and jesse knocking on the door
18:10 the entire commentary in this section was hilarious
So, how many people do you think had their Furry awakening due to this movie?
It's probably a lot
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Millions
Guilty as charged
Yeah this and Robin hood did it for me
lowkey yall have the best editors on youtube, as a patreon subscriber i dont like waiting for stuff but this video is hilarious its worth the time they take
Everyone keeps mentioning how Zootopia tackled racism but everyone’s keeps forgetting it also has a lot of sexism allegory’s. It’s a mixture of both
This movie suffered a lot from having it's entire original plot scrapped and have to start a new plot from zero 1 year before release and you can see it
Hands down, 18:13 to 18:23 is the best part of the video. I love insane ramblings like that so much
The Breaking Bad reference this movie dropped out of nowhere was insane
Ok but imagine if the guys watched the fanmade sequel Return to Zootopia 😂 it’s like a super well done animatic with voice acting and sound effects, and if you’re a Judy/Nick shipper it’s definitely for you. It’s 2 hours long and the plot is actually quite good
it was rather mid honestly....
@@Folfahfor a fanmade product I was pretty impressed
sure and ill not take the hard work they must have put into it away from em. it was just a lil mid..@@vixiestarfire
Link???
@@jaideepshekhar4621 ruclips.net/video/aVBQD2etF5k/видео.html
I think with the chairs it’s about how consideration isn’t typically given for some people in architecture, like lack of ramps for wheelchairs for example.
Like. Judy was a little girl bullied by an older boy.
She doesn't like to be called cute.
She used her brains despite her size to get her job, like MULAN.
The villain is a woman a secretary tired of being given orders.
Do you see it?
2:58 and the fact that every damn rabbit there is most likely a sister or brother, besides her mother and father
16:53 I've seen lots of people who talk like that in the many floors me and Dad install. Me and my siblings are the rarity here in Arkansas, we are city kids actively living in rural places. And I don't plan on movin to any city any time in the future... EVER.
14:20 HE"S JUST A SCOUT LEAVE HIM ALONE
I watched this again and realized that there is no reason for a mammal inclusion initiative because there are no birds, fish, reptiles, or amphibians in this society.
I like that they treat Judy getting parking duty as being discriminatory, but honestly I imagine that most new cops get stuck in the shitty jobs until they get some sort of reputation built up
That stream and this video was basically 50% horny for the animals 50% speaking on racism and it is perfect this way
Racism is justified when it comes to adeli penguins tho
I genuinly loved This movie, i loved the villians and the plot and it actually managed to scare me when i was younger with the Panther scene
the amount of times racism has been said in this video is very astounding
as a Racist i aggrie
@@gamerdrache6076WTF 😭😭
@@gamerdrache6076 yo what
@@cifsuhe's just like me fr
Hello RUclips fans, I want to play a game. Take a shot every time you hear the word “racist/racism” in the video. If you make it through 21 minutes without succumbing to alcohol poisoning, you win the game and will be set free. Live or die - the choice is yours.
17:01 not enough racism😔😔😔
19:35 Most unrealistic part, politicians don't go to jail
Bunnies=Carrots
African Americans=Watermelon
French=Cheese
Italians=Pasta
Japanese=Sushi
Indians = Curry
Mexicans = Tacos
Americans=Burgers
English=Tea
Chinese = Anything that breathe
Irish = potatos
me german:i m not gonna say it
I love the part where they keep talking about Breaking Bad, meanwhile in the movie, there's an actual line; "Alright Walter and Jesse are back so I'm leaving"
“We love furries, and we love you. One of those things is a lie.”
its nice hearing that jack loves us
I don't think he meant that
Nah they said they love furries didn't they
-- The Furry Community
Ooh you wish 😅
I know what he meant I was just joking
5:47 I would, y’all are right. Slick, hidden, smart, knows how to work around, like Jesus… he is the bad ass.
5:33 it isn’t Karening it’s Saul goodmaning
They're not bad parents, they are trying to teach their kid that the world isn't black and white and not everything is possible for everyone, which I respect. Sure it's a bit far to try and crush her dream job so early, and to try and prevent her from doing something which is possible however unlikely, but the advice to not raise your expectations too much is valuable.