Run Hide Fight, Looking at The Daily Wire's First Movie
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- This is a sad video. Yes, there are some jokes at the expense of a terrible movie, but it turns out a school shooting is not ripe territory for humour. And the last couple of minutes when things get real are particularly tough. I inserted a fairly heavy handed warning at that part of the video, so please take it seriously if you only tuned in to watch a video about a bad movie.
Originally this video was going to open with a joke about Ben Shapiro inspiring a shooting, but honestly, there are enough downers in this video that it didn't need another reminder of a tragedy. At the very least, I'm happy I was able to have this one go out on a laugh. That particular clip will probably come up in a future video.
The comparison between The Joker and Tristan was first made in a review of Run Hide Fight from The Daily Telegraph (linked below), but was slightly expanded upon by me.
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"They did it because they were evil" isn't necessarily a bad motivation for a villain, but it's an awful motivation for a school-shooting set in reality.
Reason for Sauron to raise an army of orcs to take middle earth? Sure.
Kind of reminds me of an argument made by Jordan Peterson…I would say he was on the right track w a statement about how anyone could b a Nazi but he horribly butchered it when he stuck the landing
He just said anyone can b psychopath everyone is evil and has an evil nature to them which also felt rly dumbed down. The argument comes to mind if we dont remember our history we’re doomed to repeat it and w stuff like this if we don’t understand y this tragedy happened we’re doomed to have another one
That’s the stupidest reason I’ve ever heard
And it's a thought-terminating cliche when people apply it to reality, which is exactly why people do it. There's no need to even think about matters of mental health, social issues, media influences, escalation of bullying, or any of that. Nope: Just 'Evil.'
And if you don't join in the punishing of evil, then you must be evil too.
Really? The columbine dudes could have been the baddies in this movie.
“Don’t focus on the difficult upbringings of the shooter” is an interesting statement coming from the people who want desperately want to focus on mental health rather than gun control
Not really. They don't want to focus on either of those things. Their preferred response is to dismiss shootings as just 'because evil,' refuse to discuss the cause in any more depth than that, and focus on how to kill the attackers as swiftly as possible to minimise damage. These solutions can involve putting armed security guards in schools, ways to ensure rapid police response, and arming the teachers.
That way the shooter can only get one or two shots off because the hero kills him.
It's not about mental health, it's about homeless, unborn veterans. And no, we will not be approving any funding for them, either.
actually they usually mean “Christ and institutionalized corporal punishment” when they say that
@@calcifieddirt4120 there it is.
What’s wild is how conservatives peddling their new “mental illness” angle manage to overlook two major, demonstrable facts … namely,
1) that as a group, people who suffer from mental illness are among the _LEAST_-likely to have at any point COMMITTED a violent crime,
and
2) that as a group, people who suffer from mental illness are among the _MOST_-likely to have at some point become the VICTIMS of a violent crime!!
The single thing most shared in common by people who commit gun crimes-whether that’s mass shootings, spree killings, domestic violence, premeditated murders, or unpremeditated homicides-is having acquired one or more guns … which points undeniably towards the need for national gun registries, tight regulations on sales, banning whole classes of weapons and of ammunition, seizing guns from domestic abusers and from other criminal offenders, tight regulations on weapons transportation and storage, banning open carry, tightly restricting concealed carry … basically, following Switzerland’s model.
But in their rush to distract from that fact-and to sell more guns, and to create their brownshirt army, and to ultimately destabilize democracy in favor of an outright Putin/Orbán-style oligarchy-gun lobbyists and the Koch Donor Network, acting through the conservative lawmakers in their pockets, are choosing to further stigmatize human beings who suffer from mental illness-a demographic who, if anything, are among the _most_ likely to become the _victims_ of violent crime, and who are often in the direst need of society’s protection and compassion.
It’s like they’ve gone beyond coming up with just the wrong answer, and have come up instead with the most perversely glue-is-good-food pants-on-head wrong answer.
Imagine describing a series as “edgy” and “won’t mock your values” in the same sentence
Just like that statue in the back - of Elizabeth Warren as Pocahontas, holding the clapperboard.
Edgy, yet not mocking the values of five aging white American conservative males.
"Waiter, the chipotle-mayo you brought me is too spicy. Is there a kind of spicy mayo that isn't spicy?"
I know right, it’s almost as if the right isn’t the new punk rock after all.
Conservative values are edgy, inherently
@@LimeyLassen that’s not true at all
I cracked up at "Instead of starting a RUclips channel where he complains about women in Star Wars". Perfectly nailed the demographic.
That might have made for a better movie. The question is, which genre would a story of such a teen starts a RUclips channel to complain about women in Star Wars would be a fit.
@@3baxcba comedy
@@pitbullnamedcupcake8485 Better get good writers and producers behind it because if it's written by that director or the creepy executive of that production, the movie will show it's age and not in a good way much less a in a genuine funny way.
My man, I shuddered when the director claimed that the movie was 'escapism.'
I love how he completely missed the point in that statement.
@@meganfaith4052 how?
@@notonfire7318 We are talking about school shootings here not some Young adult novels. This is a very real problem which needs an end but to say it is escapism is just sad
@@dr.tariquehussainkhan631 oh wait I thought that comment used 'he' for jose
@@notonfire7318 oh sorry if I came off as rude then
"They put Die Hard into a school shooting" has the same amazingly powerful energy as "They did surgery on a grape."
Honestly, it sounds like an extended NRA propaganda video. Not a good thing by any means.
ruclips.net/video/KNHgeykDXFw/видео.html
No, not really.
Not a big tall building or a wild goose chase through new york. But a school lol.
thats like saying "they made the hindenburg burn down on the titanic"
Ben: this movie is to START a conversation!
Jose: why those teens have all those guns? where did they get them???
Ben:...no!
There parents? They didn't get them from a shop.
Where did they get an MP40?
@@GlareanLiebertine he got into a TARDIS and stole one
@@bluefacebaby9334 Great! All I gotta do is find a Time Lord and steal their TARDIS and I should be good! Now how do I fake a hyper-advanced device or an alien invasion to get one of those schmucks to take the bait?
@@GlareanLiebertine That's what I couldn't help but think the whole time. I don't know quite how to explain it but it was oddly cartoonish to see one of them running around with an MP40 of all things. Like how do you take this movie seriously when one of them appears to be a cartoon villain.
Let's be real the main villain's motivation was that he got cancelled on twitter for calling someone a slur. Hence the whole bit on "judge and jury, ooo I'm the executioner" type shit.
So basically, it sounds like the villain is a Daily Wire fan who got kicked off Twitter for using such a slur, and this is before Elon took it over and made it a total mess.
Ben is just never going to let go of the fact Hollywood rejected him for being a terrible writer.
And considering how crappy Hollywood usually is that's saying something.
@@dalekrenegade2596 for real. There's some absolute dogshit that makes it to primetime. Ben's had to be like middle school level bad
@@samuelbrown3405
It might also be that what he's writing is both extremely racist and insensitive.
But I'm sure he'll just write that off as "Telling the hard truth people don't want to hear and/or what the left doesn't want you to know"
@@lavetissene339 Relax Jussie. Ben did not write the screenplay.
Ben? When did he try to become a writer?
For a group of guys who presumably “hate” Hollywood Elites - they sure do go through a lot of effort to exactly emulate those elites. Down to the red carpet and tuxedos 🤣
Yes just like the religious zealots
Isn’t this the same group of guys that worship a celebrity businessman/elitist & thinking he’s the messiah?
@@midniteryder_3-16 yep
Down to the sexual abuse of young women. 😔 It's very disheartening.
It's the same thing when conservatives dress like scientists in between bouts of mocking science. They want the clout so bad.
In school teachers weren't supposed to tell us when shooters drills were happening but they always would because otherwise we genuinely believed it was going to be the day we died. The idea of anyone using that scenario for "escapism" feels so gross
Your education establishment tried to scare and scar you.
@Jack Paul it's the school's fault for having safety drills??
We only run the drills in school holidays. Which sounds silly, but this is Britain - we haven't had a school shooting since 1996, and the only purpose of the lockdown drill is to placate worried parents.
I watched the video about "conservative non-fiction", and that idea of "escapism" is very similar to how those books encourage the reader to disengage themselves from the real world struggle (which is kinda hard when their escapism doesn't shield people actually experiencing the struggle)
@@theimplications635 not sure about your school but when mine had fire drills they told us.
“God allows the wicked to do their wickedness… so they can be judged.”
So God sits back and lets children die so he can tell the person who killed them it was bad. Great argument, buddy
Someone needs Jesus in there life
@@jacksennielsen4471 No one's going to take you seriously when you spell there instead of their.
And shouldn't God care more about protecting the innocent instead of allowing the wicked the right to hurt them?
@@kennethcroft-oh1gh I’m a hardcore republican, what I meant was how this moron was against god. And thank you by the way for correcting me on my grammar.
@@kennethcroft-oh1gh before i say this, im agnostic and dont believe in god, but a christian would probably argue that prioritising that would remove humanities free will to choose or refuse god because Adam and Eve disobeyed him and gave humans the ability to sin. This argument is all sorts of flawed but thats probably what they’d respond with.
@@kitsune630 Sadly, I've actually heard that argument used. Flawed is the right word.
The fact that we have this movie but not “Cool Cat Stops a School Shooting” is very disappointing.
No joke, I’ve been waiting to see Derek tackle this highly tragic and complex subject with the grace of a freaking bulldozer for YEARS now! The attacker’s gotta be Dirty Dog no doubt
Truly a tragic loss
@@laurenmiller9143 🤣🤣🤣
When I saw her aim at the boy in the orange cap without seeing his face, my initial thought was that she's going to shoot an innocent boy that she mistakes for the schoolshooter. But that ofc would be too profound a move for such a movie to do.
Ironically, it speaks loudly to the kind of sadist that conservatives would hold up as a hero: she has free reign to be as cruel as she can be, because he's the bad guy.
@@SnakeMan448 Maybe not a sadist per se, but conservatives seem to be quite fond of the idea of taking justice into one's own hands.
@@Max_Mustermann Thats how it works in Wyoming, so if that kind of justice isn't appealing to you, best stay clear of Cheyenne and Laramie.
There's nothing profound about that.
@@Max_Mustermann because law enforcement fails us time and time again and again and again and again. That's why a lot of us feel this way. I am not encouraging teenagers to try and risk their life against something as horrible and as dangerous as this, if God forbid anything ever did happen to them. But I'm just saying....What i just explained is a huge reason as to why a lot of us feel this way.
...Did the shooter in that one scene literally say to all the other kids "this is actually your fault because you use social media"
“Cellphones Bad”
Serial killer: "I'm the creation of everyone who has ever played a Flash Adobe game."
Based Shooter
"You did this to yourselves when you didnt reply to that email and got 10 years of bad luck"
How does anyone not a Boomer take Ben Shapiro seriously?
27:24 Matthew Walsh,a dumb slasher film or a movie about a bear on cocaine is escapism but you seem to forget that THIS MOVIE IS EVERY HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS FEAR. You can say it’s escapism because you never have to step foot into a school again but for dozens of parents THIS IS MAKING A MOCKERY OF THE WAY THEIR CHILD DIED
(Sorry If I phrased it poorly just needed to say this)
Yeah his kids are home schooled. So he doesn't need to worry about that.
Spoken like someone who's never been through an active shooter drill. Or has never had their fire drill have you hide in the classroom first because if a fire alarm does go off it's more likely to be a shooter. Or has never had friends die in a real shooting. Matt Walsh gets to enjoy it while everyone who's been a real school since Columbine has to live it
@@justanotheranimeprofilepic What's worse. Matt was born in 1986. He would have 13-14 when Columbine happened.
Matt Walsh is advocating to lower the age of consent so he probably isn’t even allowed to enter with in 5000 ft of a high school
@@RAINBOWNIGTHMAREPRODUCTIONSI mean I was in middle school when Uvalde happened.
Yeah that sucked and I was horrified but at least I knew my school wouldn’t be next.
Ben saying his movie is push back against liberal Hollywood is like saying, "I'm sick of superhero movies, so watch my film. It's about a guy who gets bit by a radioactive wombat, puts on a costume and fights crime."
Combat Wombat: Origins
I feel like I might actually want to watch that movie 😂
Replace wombats with emus and you got yourself a deal. They won a war you know.
No I'm not joking.
@@dalekrenegade2596 It wasn't a fair fight... The emus had the numbers... Mankind only had a couple of machine guns... What were they supposed to do? Build fences? That's ridiculous! What world is that where a man has to build a fence to protect his crops instead of slaughtering emus with artillery strikes? 😀
@@dalekrenegade2596 emus are the superior species in the planet, they're just letting us live in their backyard
"If we only take proactive action, we can avoid tragedy."
"Oh, so gun control."
"No, not that."
"Okay, so broad, sweeping free mental health care to identify and care for at-risk persons before they commit, or are victims of, violent crime."
"No, not that either."
"So... Everybody learn gunkata like in Equilibrium?"
"Yes! That's the ticket."
(at the audience, someone whispers to another)
"And people wonder why we hate conservatives."
@Co M. Rayce is not really discussing the film. Rayce is discussing the means available for preventing acts of mass murder, using a reasonable interpretation of 'prevention' as meaning 'actions taken before any shooter begins killing people (ie before events in the same vein as the film 's subject matter ever occur)'. We have one proposed method in reducing firearm availability through legal means, against which your objection has been raised. Fair enough, though it's not too convincing in the absence of explicit references for the 'statistics' that supposedly indicate this is not an effective means of prevention. Other methods such as mental health care seem reasonable enough - after all, mass murder is not behaviour consistent with good mental health. Unfortunately in the USA even public funding for physical health care is an uphill battle - and often opposed by right-wing politicians - so mental health care is not as accessible as might be good for preventing crises.
@Co M. I'm pretty sure statistics don't show that, but hey, you massage those numbers any way you need to to justify your interactions with reality.
@Co M. Right? I'm sorry you can't use Google.
@Co M. @Co M. I'm confused - which claim is under discussion here? I made more than one and its not clear which one you believe to be missing evidence. As far as the 'statistics' go, I will again state that in the absence of references to specific sources of information (eg data collected by the FBI during the year of 2017 that can be found at x webpage), your assertion remains unconvincing.
These people would literally rather have children fight for their lives instead of regulating guns in any way
You should look at Thomas Sowell on gun regulations. He compared the U.S to other countries and pointed out that other nations have much higher crime rates and a similar amount of deaths per capita.
@@ianpage2509 which countries and which crimes
@@compa6251 "the ones I looked at"
@@IrisXen bruh he literally said "yo this goof said it so it's true" and didn't even bother looking at his sources
So much for being pro "life"
Art is about exploring new ideas no wonder there aren't many successful conservatives in the art world
Well futurism, dadaism and other famous art movements have artists directly associated with fascism and traditionalism for example.
@@CarangaGAThere's a difference between fascism/traditionalism and conservatism though.
Since the concept of conservatism is keeping things the same, the art is, well, the same commonplace art we have today. At the very least fascist or traditional art is different even if the difference is less wholesome.
Open conservatives are black balled in Hollywood. You aren’t more creative than others just cause you like when men put on dresses
@@thunderspark1536I wouldn’t actually say fascism is a entirely right leaning thing either, it’s more of a bell curve of how much you’re willing to listen
@@peanutbutter2586 Fascism is entirely right wing. So right wing that the NSDAP sat on the far right opposite to the far left, the communist party KPD, in the Reichstag. So it is literally and proverbially correct to say that fascism is far right and not just leaning.
"Sometimes things are bad because they fail in what they try to achieve. Sometimes tho, they are bad because they succeed, and the thing they were trying to achieve is tasteless and stupid"
-Ben "Yhatzee" Croshaw
This movie doesn't succeed in what it tried to achieve though. It fails at being effective right wing propaganda.
@@martinsriber7760 but it's good at two thing. Validating the manipulated, & letting everyone else know who not to associate
@@martinsriber7760 I dunno, I don't think its goal was to persuade anyone who wasn't already in their camp to join them. Rather, it seemed the kind of film designed to pander to the very base that these people are a part of, to confirm to them (through cinematic narrative) that the fantasy of being able to repel a school shooter with pluck and firearms is both possible and plausible.
People learn about the world through narratives. Film, television and other media convey narratives about the nature of the world that we learn, internalize and build into a part of our worldview. Like TV series 24 demonstrating to its audience that torture works, with the series even being cited in the dissenting brief in the Supreme Court case on torture. This film seems designed as an ego buffer, designed to demonstrate that such a scenario could plausibly work out. Thing is, it's a constructed and controlled narrative, and no matter how much sense it makes to its creators, it'll never prove that the strategy of run, hide, fight would actually work in real life.
So it'll never convince anyone who wasn't already a believer. It's the God's Not Dead of right-wing firearms activism. And, like God's Not Dead, it warps reality to make its narrative make sense.
Benjamin Godzilla Yahtzee Croshaw
Ay it's our *boi*
I remember when he reviewed Parasite and he just called it "okay" or something and admitted he couldn't finish it I think. Someone like that has no business in film and he shouldn't be surprised why that industry rejected him.
He was probably offended by it, and goddamned right he should not be involved in filmmaking, there's already too many obnoxious libs in Hollywood or pretentious libertarians (Zack Snyder). I wish Hollywood was the leftist machine these people make it out to be
@@alonsoarana5307 I'm sorry you feel that way? I have no idea what Zack Snyder's political leanings are, and I know people who no him personally, and work in the same industry - I'm guessing you don't? He's widely regarded as a very nice and professional guy. I don't know, or don't care whether Ben was "offended by it". Lots of films offend me too. It's his inability to grasp what makes a great film great. That has literally nothing to do with the political leanings of the film. I probably won't watch "Run, Hide, Fight" but the shots Jose posted show his crew had no idea how to construct a proper shot, or knew the basics of cinematography. I get that this is sort of a love letter to John McTiernon, but John McTiernon went to Julliard and the AFI film conservatory and these guys clearly did not.
@@TheFortressMaximus Zack Snyder is nice but is very libertarian. His own production company's name is an Ayn Rand reference. I personally don't care about his leanings, as his movies are simply awful.
@@derektran9404 He's hit and miss.
@@TheFortressMaximus Mostly miss imo, I liked Dawn of the Dead but all the others seem blinded by the idea of "I have a few good ideas for cool shots, I'm gonna just stuff whatever in between and call it a movie"
Wait hang on, so their movie that is 100% against school shootings and doesn't fetishise them at all....has the actual shooter/main villain be some edgelord who repeats Daily Wire talking points like "I'm triggering you!!!!" jokes, his build a wall comment and arguing that teachers should be armed
The SHOOTER is the one who agrees with the Daily Wire's world view
impressive self own on their part
And it still manages to fetishize one kid shooting other kids. Isn't our "protagonist" technically also a school shooter now?
I’m genuinely shocked DW didn’t order rewrites to have the main villain be the sort of far left extremist caricature that exists only in their heads. Like they could have made him the amalgamation of every negative stereotype of the left like have him be a militant vegan, PETA supporting, antifa radical who hates trump and loves Bernie and is determined to destroy the establishment so it can be rebuilt into a communist state. Not that it would have made for a more interesting character or a more engaging story. It just would have been in keeping with the rhetoric of DW
@@unstoppableExodia lol I was confused for a second when I saw you wrote "DW." I was like "the little sister from Arthur?" Also, I'm a leftist and I have to say: fuck PETA. They kill so many pets, even going as far as to abduct well taken care of and loved pets just to put them down to prove their point about how having pets is somehow equivalent to slavery
To be fair, I think they were going for a Joker-like figure who speaks the dark truth that only conservatives are WOKE to, in the sense that, "You weak libs are too blind to see the absurdity of your beliefs! All you needed were more guns and walls! So simple! Haha, joke's on you!" In the framing of the story he's not a right-winger, he's just rando evil guy who just "sees the truth" but is ultimately personally responsible for his evils absent any wider cultural context or systemic reasons for his existence.
Which is why that whole line about free will was thrown in. Remember that Shapiro is from the party of "personal responsibility" and bootstraps. So while he clutches pearls about how we shouldn't glorify school shooters, he feels no responsibility for reforming society or enacting systematic policies to solve systematic problems. It's just a few bad apples to him and the onus was never on him to, ya know, actually do anything substantive about school shootings.
The message is basically that bad people just exist and you must be harsh and emotionally dead inside so that you can fight them at any time and the libs are just too mentally weak to accept that. If you're not ready to break in a dude's head with a rock, you're just not equipped for today's society.
@@msjkramey yeah I lean left and I have no time for PETA at all. They’d happily criticize me for eating meat or a reptile keeper for live feeding yet they are quite blood thirsty in their drive to hunt and kill pets that could be rehomed.
"We need to treat them as the villains they are, It can't be all about their tough childhoods [...] or the crippling circumstances they went through..."
Or how they may or may not have been inspired by right wing demagogues such as yourself, to the point of listing you by name in their manifesto.
So the villain literally quotes right wing talking points. They make a "conservative" movie and still accidentally make themselves the villains. Sounds about right.
Yes, but you see, it's ultimately the commie liberals fault because (insert insane right-wing logic here).
Well, no one said they were smart...
At some point I want someone to cut through the bullshit and just be like. "You don't care about the quality. You just like the movie cause it's conservative. Stop bullshiting. You wouldn't get so upset if that wasn't true"
It would have been so easy to insert a right wing talking point about bad guys always being able to find weapons (even if they're banned") but that would have been too smart a move.
Yes
But the protagonist is also right wing
The whole film give us the messege
how to deal with shool shootings ?
More badas kids with gun !
It's worth noting that school shooters are largely inspired or at least heavily invested in right wing ideologies. This goes back to the original shooters at Columbine, who wanted to beat Timothy Mcveigh's "score."
So basically CIA assets
@@AjaxNixon Careful dude. That shit'll get you killed
The two Columbine shooters were inspired by Hitler and natural selection…which r things that I’ve heard thrown around a lot on the right
Yeah Eric explicitly said that he wanted to BLOW UP his school, not shoot it up. When the bombing failed, the went straight to shooting
@@historycritic4184 one of them was inspired by doom
(Im not saying games cause violence he was already violent it just inspired him)
"Edgy movies that won't mock your [conservative] values" is an oxymoron
I think that Goebbels would like this type of movie.
Edgy like saluting the American flag and drinking a beer.
But you have a black friend!
Oh no. It's edgy because there is a female protaganist and one of the villians smokes weed. Oh no, this movie should be banned. ah. /s
You know, I remember that one time when they made a safety drill in my school.
I have arrived a bit late when they made the announcement so it took me by surprise.
People even took me for a schoo shooter because of that.
This experiment took me to a huge roller coaster of emotions that I ended up breaking in tears since I realized shortly that I would be one of the victims if that were true.
This was a simulation but the what I've been though would have been more realistic than this movie.
“Villains in film have since evolved to complex people who have understandable albeit twisted motives.
..So we wanted to go back to when baddies were just evil!”
Cross a Troop/Copaganda Boomer-show like "Blue Bloods" or "Jack Ryan" with a shitty wannabe-edgy anime like "Goblin Slayer" and you will end up with a Ben Shapiro story.
@@ShadowPa1adin the jack ryan movie wasnt that bad
@@ShadowPa1adin I'm going to argue with you on Goblin Slayer. That is the most surface-level reading of the show you can possibly have when it really is a nice examination of the idea that there is a lot of crap in the world that just has to be done. It's a great look at the concept of what you do when there's no evil overlord to fight. Sure the goblins are always evil baddies, but they don't represent a people. They represent a near-constant threat to society even in times of peace and prosperity. Someone has to deal with the "goblins" of society and it's important to remember that even if you get to place where you no longer have to deal with them, they're still there. They could be a stand in for any number of things people would rather not think about. Wisecrack has a really good video going into it.
That's a lot better than anything Shapiro probably ever wrote.
This gives a lot of insight into the mindset of people like Ben Shapiro. Conservatives have a dangerously simple view of the world. There are good people, and there are bad people. Full stop. The entire world is divided in this strict dichotomy of good vs. evil, which is an extremely dangerous and tribalistic mindset. If you determine a person, or even an entire demographic of people, is "evil", you can justify doing anything to them. It is a GOOD thing that mainstream fiction has become more nuanced with its depiction of antagonists. It reminds us that even the people who are against us are still the heroes of their own story. If they do something that hurts people, we need to ask WHY they're doing such a thing. Did they have a bad home life? Did the system fail them in some way? Do they have some kind of need that isn't being met? If we find the source of the problem, we can stop the problem from even happening in the first place. Simply calling that person "evil" shuts down any further thought and only allows the problem to repeat itself into perpetuity.
@@OhAbsinthian The problem comes when you can't find a reason for it. "We Need to Talk About Kevin" is a good examination of that kind of thing. Nothing about Kevin's life says he should have turned out the way he did, and his parents are reeling trying so desperately find a reason where none exists. There's no overt signs of mental illness, nothing that screams abused.
While it's great to explore the depths of peoples' issues in hopes of helping them or understanding why, it does tend to make people unwilling to accept that the reason doesn't exist.
Not every posed question has an answer let alone an entirely satisfactory one.
Who else noticed CNN is called FNN in this movie which is likely short for Fake News Network?
"my movies are apolitical" smh
The funniest thing is that you it could just as easily be FNN "fox news network" & still have the same meaning
Considering the movie was produced independent from TDW, it might be a coincidence. Or it has something to do with its producer Dallas Sonniers, who's not shy about his right-wing belief.
I thought it was supposed to be Fox New Network. Because the stage crew could not musterr respect for such a person as Ben Shapiro.
To be fair, Faux News was already taken
Man I love the guy admitting "I stayed the same, the world moved left (read: moved forward)," that's so close to being self aware.
What a low bar.
Remaining center is forward. Obviously. Left and right imply bias, center is idealistically free of bias.
@@Imbalanxd
Sure bud. That would be true in a country with a Overton window that's in the center. To bad Americans Overton window keeps sliding right.
@@Imbalanxd Ideally yes but unfortunately in reality you cannot be a centrist without engaging in cognitive dissonance......
@@jo0rd73 Also you can’t be free of bias
To be fair, had this film been made in the 80s and 90s when school shootings were either rare or underreported and was set in a dystopian future, people would’ve probably praised it.
The movie was made in 2020
@@pixelated_Nova it was a hypothetical.
Not sure what the “to be fair” bit is for. We aren’t living in the 80s.
@@runespar yeah it's a pretty hard tbf when that was 20-30 years ago when school shootings wouldn't had been topical enough to even spawn a movie like this.
It's like saying "tbf the Titanic would've been an even bigger hit in the 1910's" like yeah I guess lmao
Not much of a point being made here. A movie being made 40 years too late is an uninspired movie.
I honestly don't understand how this movie was supposed to be some attack against leftists or these conservatives trying to weasel their way into the entertainment industry.
1. They made a movie to address how terrible school shootings are (although they dressed it up as a cheesy action thriller) I'm sure that's what they were trying to convey.
2. By making so many of these characters one-dimensional targets like Jose mentioned, which is the opposite of what Elephant did, they've dismantled their pro-life and All Lives Matter stances. The lives of these kids didn't matter to them, they just wanted them to be bodies on screen to be targets for the shooters. They don't want the audience to care about their lives or what happens to them. Also, the shot where they have that kid under the van even though we didn't see them get run over was so disgustingly careless and cartoonish.
3. I love how the main shooter mentions that the school security guard makes a low wage in the same breath as mentioning that he should be armed. Wow, they're actually advocating for higher wages?
4. If these people care so much about the police and Blue Lives Matter and shit, why didn't these characters just let the cops do their job? Doesn't it make the police look weak and incompetent that instead of the police saving these kids, this girl had to save everyone? Oh, also, I find it very progressive that the main action lead is a teenaged girl. I mean, they could have had her calling her dad during the shooting and had him come save the day. I don't get it; is that supposed to be an own to us leftists or an homage? I thought the rhetoric was "it takes a good guy with a gun...blah, blah, blah...not a good girl?"
I think your comment is a perfect token of people on the left and right not understanding the other's point of view.
@@jameswallace6984 why would Ben and his friends at Daily Wire make a very absolute stance against leftist agendas and then pick this movie about a strong independent woman taking out edgy white males to distribute under their company name? This movie should be labeled as woke leftist ideology by them. I mean, this girl is so strong she gets shot in the leg but still manages to take out the edgy straight white male villains, and come back home to her Black boyfriend, in which she has apparently a healthy and loving and passionate relationship with. All of that sounds like liberalism to me.
@@jameswallace6984 Ah yes the Neo-Confederate really just want state rights to own slavery.
I comepletely agree except with ur point on elephant, the characters in that movie are intentionally one dimensional, they’re meant to be average kids just going ab their day, this movie has them as one dimensional to act as targets while an action movie plays out around them, one dimensional characters are super useful and even interesting depending on how their used, elephant makes you wish these characters were more developed, that u got to see how their lives and problems played out, you feel the tragedy of the senseless violence as their lives are pointlessly cut short, this movie just uses them as targets
For #4 you make a good point that in a "hollywood liberal" movie the protagonist would be criticized for being a Mary sue or "forced diversity" feminist propaganda. However I dont think the right sees gun issues as being gendered like that. It's more that they dont understand that a gun in the house is much more of a liability for american women than a tool of independence and liberation. Same for carrying a gun for self defense. I dont think they are against the idea of "good girl with a gun"
"That hate our Gods"
Ben.
Ben you're all Abrahamics, you have the same God. Unless Ben is secretly a closet polytheist and MAN what a twist that would be.
Turns out god just had disassociative personality disorder this whole time.
They don’t seem to get why their gods deserve our hatred.
i believe he said “they hate our guts” haha
@@risingsuperstarfrost3096 But that's actually biblical canon XD It's called the trinity.
@@Jotari also the saints in Catholicism like the fire goddess Brigid of Celtic paganism being folded into the St. Bridget story. I'd imagine a lot of saints had deeds or aspects derived from preexisting deities
After the nefarious depiction of BLM in that one book, I'm so curious to see what kind of stories Ben Shabibo's company will make.
Charlottesville:"Right's Freedom Parade"
A knock-off version of "trans person rapes indiscriminately because of bathroom bill while the left(tm) cheers" wouldn't shock me from them at this point.
@@longliverocknroll5 J.K. Rowling already has that covered though.
@@1997lordofdoom Exactly. They just need to “be inspired by” her book
@@johnnyguillotine1673 funny how they wanted freedom from Ben shapiro.
The ending just shows the daily wire never thought of this from the perspective of someone who would be involved in this. The ending is framed as the positive end to the power fantasy when in reality it’s a person ignoring the tens of more trained and less injured officers to instead go kill the bad guy herself in quite a sadistic way, while also being quite legally dubious and extra judicial. Had it been handled by someone else, the ending could be quite good and a view of trauma and it’s affects on people and their views on morality, instead we’re supposed to see an act of sadism as a good thing because it happened to a bad person. It’s quite telling that this is the way the daily wire handled it
It honestly reminds me a little of taxi driver
Conservatives: Let's not make school shootings political, think of the children!
Also conservatives: *makes a movie of school shootings and blame the "radical left" of not letting it go to Hollywood *
You know if someone made a movie involving school shootings that even hinted at the tragedy being preventable by stricter gun laws, these same people would start virtue signaling about how disgusting it is to use school shootings for a political agenda
You forgot that in the movie they don’t “think of the children”
Cringe
Conservatives: There's too much politics in movies today!! The left keeps shoving politics down my throat!!
Also conservatives: Let's make this political movie for political reasons to own the left.
Classic projection, as usual.
The whole movie is also a political message that guns and violence are not the problem but the solution, something the NRA always preaches "If the teachers only had guns" - disgusting
That one guy talks about inspiring people in similar situations to be proactive when the expression "run, hide, fight" is literally about fighting being a last resort. Truly bizzare
I was looking for this comment. I work in a school and our plan has always been to get the kids *away* from the danger, not encourage them to engage it in. I guess if *everybody* decided to charge a gunman all at once without somehow tipping them off to the attack, that they *might* be able to get the gun out of his hands. But those are a lot of big "ifs." It's much safer to get out or shelter in place behind looked doors
As Jose suggests, it just kind of feels like an actor trying to say something off the dome in the movie’s favour. Which has to be a challenge honestly.
@@msjkramey Have you seen Beau of the Fifth Column's gun control series?
Going back and watching it now it's really rough, mono speakers and bad lighting, but very informative. He also lays out how stupid the idea of arming teachers is.
@@msjkramey something similar happened with gabby giffords shooting.....yet people died before it happened.........thats the minimum reality of a shooting.
What so if it's your only resort and you're about to die you'd not fight? That should be encouraged in these situations.
Super Columbine Massacre RPG: The Movie
Gimme geno
We have that already. Is called Elephant and, unlike this piece of shit, is great.
@@kaoko111 I've been looking for that movie. Any idea where I can find it?
@@kapitan762x54R it used to be all over RUclips and I torrented it back in the day. It’s almost impossible to find a legit copy. It’s been out of print for years, unfortunately.
@@Funnylittleman yeah. I'll take a look but I couldn't find it on... well. "The Bay".
It always amuses me when conservatives complain about movies and TV being "leftist propaganda". They're just basic morality tales that we've taught children forever (kindness to others, sharing, compassion, not judging people, not being a bigot, y'know, kid shit), it's not Hollywoods fault Conservative values are so completely at odds with being a good person🤷♀️
I'm conservatiive. Not extreme in any way. I actually lean sometimes more towards independent. I do agree with some liberal things. For example, I am pro-choice. But anyway....all that to say that I agree with you 100%. I don't see movies and TV as being left leaning. It's like you said....just basic human decency and not being a peice of sh*t human being.
I can't stand when the super extreme conservatives give us such a bad name. It's embarrassing.
@@kassygendron3022 would you consider yourself a conservative in purely forms like gun control, the free market, etc. as opposed to the more… I don’t know how to put this, “morality” focused sense? Like LGBTQ rights dont have much of anything to do with how we run our nation, and yet it’s a huge divide between political parties nonetheless. Abortion laws too, to a degree, since those do somewhat impact how we view and dictate bodily autonomy.
I just often see a lot of good people who would consider themselves conservative in relation to their interpretation of the constitution, gun control, socialism, etc. but because they aren’t a massive bigot they’re automatically deemed as leftist. Which I think is just kind of silly.
Edit: please let me know if I’ve used some terms incorrectly or missinterpreted something at any point, thanks!
@@snek723 Why are you so surprised that the divide between Liberal vs Conservative is about basic human decency? Of course conservatives oppose the liberals when it comes to not judging people, kindness, not being a bigot etc. What else are they going to differentiate themselves with? Both conservatism and liberalism is capitalist, most often than not militarist and pretty much functions the same with the slight difference of certain groups being or not being allowed to exist in said capitalist, militarist society.
too bad laura b is on record promoting the louden county schools in aiding the rapist while calling the rapist victims dad a terrorists for wanting justice for his daughter as is noted of the biden administration in aiding rapists and pedophiles
This movie just proudly presents the epitome of American politics - "It's not My fault that the world is the way it is". It's American Exceptionalism down to the individual. When people shoot up a school or commit suicide (those are fairly close actually, more often than not the shooters desire to take their own lives anyway) then we can never talk about society, about bullying, about pressures, about identity. It's never our fault, we don't need to introspect - evil is just a thing that happens. The devil, some random thing that happens sometimes, not the reaction to environmental circumstances and experiences of a subject.
The lack of nuance is baffling. I mean, making a movie with strong social commentary is hard of course, but hitting all the wrong places is awfully impressive. I mean, even EVEN if they want to present some points about them as positives the movie fails. For example, You can make a strong point on how easy those kids get a gun, a few dialogues of them buying on a gunshow or something could open a conversation, the killers are obviously trouble kids, no sane one guns his schoolmates, how about making a commentary on bullying, mental health or the lack of attention the kids need, how about a police killing the girl cause in a shooting situation police have problems to identify the killer since EVERYONE can have a gun, how about presenting the traumatic effects of the shooting via the girl violently killing the guy at the end, how about the killers killing a really compromised and likeable teacher saving students by being killed as an homage to the teachers who did the same... But no, in this universe there's no nuance at all, evil exists, those kids are horrible people just because, they are not conflicted kids with troubles, just a caricature on how a school shooter is, and as such the audience just must think they are just disgusting people who deserve to die, preventing them from getting a gun? help them to step up their problems? teach the others to empathize with them before they get desperate and kill someone or themselves? That solutions are for pussies, there's no gray, they are evil and deserve to die. Or at least that's the message of this putrid display of mediocrity.
This is all correct.
And then, the conservatives ALSO have the personality that believes every SINGLE bad event is due to the systemic left. They are not at fault, it is either a different person, or a different system. Conservatism loves hating the government rather than blaming themselves for their situations. It’s so terribly sad. They are in a tragedy and they are too stupid to recognize it
Damn bro, you didn't have to write a deconstructave essay on the psychology of narcissistic racist insensitive assholes!
The idea that things are just evil and therefore we should defeat it has to be the most simpleminded thing I’ve ever heard. Anyone that thinks like that has no critical thinking skills whatsoever.
@@kaoko111 Extremism, Anti Semitism type approach. I hope you never go into politics. Extremists like you helped Hitler into power.
Ah, yes. A "good guy with a gun" is the solution. Even though that's not how school shootings usually end and that doesn't help with gang violence, domestic violence, and suicide that make up much more gun violence than mass shootings
Gang violence usually occurs in gun-free zones so there’s a reason, friend. Domestic violence isn’t normally gun-related funnily enough. Why would you bring up suicide-by-gun in a point about “good guy with a gun”? You just trying to pad out your post a bit? That makes no sense.
@@chrisstoltz3648 The good guy with a gun argument has never been made in the context of suicide by gun. So why are you bringing that up?
True, but a Hobo With a Shotgun . . . will probably not solve all the problems either considering how the film just ends in tragedy and the crapsake city the hero tried to fix didn’t really get any better at the end.
Hell that monologue the Hobo gave towards the babies in the hospital at how fucked their future is truly is a haunting speech that reflects on the status of society as a whole. Definitely the second best Rutghar Hauer monologue since Blade Runner.
@@spenser9908 oh hey fancy meeting you here pal
Look at what happened at Uvalde, the "good guys with guns" did nothing
This could have been more realistic if she gave her boyfriend a gun too so he could help, but when the cops show up, they shoot him thinking he’s the shooter since he’s black.
Oof... too real. That was such a tragic story and good demonstration of why a "good guy with a gun" isn't a good strategy. Racism aside, if a cop shows up to an active shooter situation, how the hell are they supposed to know which of the people shooting at each other is the "good guy"? Just guess? Shoot everyone that has a gun?
@@msjkramey so true some poepl just live in there own bubble
That sounds like a Key and Peele sketch
@@theomegajuice8660 unfortunately it's all too real. Look up Emantic “EJ” Fitzgerald Bradford Jr. He was shot by police because he was mistakenly confused with the active shooter at a mall
@@msjkramey that’s the exact story that I was thinking of. Thanks! I couldn’t remember.
I think it's hilarious that the Daily Wire bought the distribution rights to the movie so that nobody can ever watch it but their own subscribers. That's a sort of self-own right there.
It's definitely an act of self-sabotage that should make any investors or financiers think twice about dealing with the Daily Wire on any movie production.
let me introduce a more realistic version of the script:
the protagonist runs and hides, but when she goes back to pick a fight with the school shooter, she's shot and dies instantly. Roll credits.
Geez
I’d watch it.
I’ll do one better, just for the sake of being serious instead of jokingly. After the main girl dies at the first act with whatever character arc she has completely abandoned, the film now focus on the main shooter as the villain protagonist and explore why he is a twisted sociopath wanting to kill as many people due to the failure in American health system and growing apathy humanity display to one another.
. . . Wait I just remembered Daily Wire promotes this film. What I suggest is the type of SJW bullshit they hate despite them being the ones who like films like Joker.
@@BigK13372 Side tangent unironically I believe the worst part of Joker isn't the movie itself (that film is fantastic) but the 'fanbase' (if you can call it that) that is kind of reactionary
I mean most news outlets were def too paranoid around the movie's release and people's disdain were justified, but dear god the fanbase had some notable cringe
@@ArcturusOTE Yeah. Prime example of misaimed fanbase. Especially considering the film, while humanizing the Batman villain, didn’t really glamorize any of his crime and presents the character as a cautionary tale
@Romantic Outlaw eh, I wouldn’t say that’s the most realistic yet I do admit it would be a plausible scenario
I love how the people that liked this movie call it "real and honest" and then call it "escapism".
José you seriously don't miss
you don't either!
Make more stuff!! I love your work!!!
You guys don’t miss but we miss you every day there’s no new content :(
We stan
Sarah z socialist confirmided?????? ????!?
She left the school, had a vision of her dead mom and walked back unarmed whitout calling help. Dummest main charater ever.
These people are absolutely horney to have an excuse to shoot someone.
I wouldn't mind if it was entertaining at least but this movie is bad propaganda
You're right, but please don't phrase it like that.
Which people specifically?
@@chaoszhul_4d586 why not? It seems real accurate.
They just have this aching need to shoot their load.
@@TheJacklikesvideos the people making the movie reviewed in this youtube video
Ben said that Hollywood is turning people leftist but what exactly are these leftist values that Ben is talking about? Ultimately Hollywood just love money and tell basic moral tales for the most part.
So what are these basic moral tales that Hollywood that ben think is political? Don’t discriminated against other? Don’t be greedy? Take care of the earth?
It's extra funny when guys like Shapiro also try to argue that stuff like Black Panther is alt right!
I think Hollywood studios basically try to be topical and put out stuff that they feel/think factors big in the zeitgeist. Environment trending big on social media right now? Produce some guy’s documentary about fracking. The cops shot another unarmed black guy? Let’s talk to Marvel/DC about putting another of their black superheroes on the big screen.
The mistake idiots like Shapiro et al make is mistaking cashing in on a trend with somehow artificially manufacturing the trend.
Regressive do not understand art, so no surprise but still fascinating how these idiots miss the mark with that one.
It’s explicitly about T’Chala learning from his experiences since Civil War and changing the way his country and his people interact with the world.
Then there’s Killmonger and how while he has some good points about Wakanda, he’s so emotionally and mentally damaged that by the end he tries to start a world war that would destroy everything.
But conservatives never seem to get this.
All I can picture is Ben Shapiro watching WallE and getting increasingly angry about the “left’s evil agenda” to stop killing our freaking planet to the point where he’s yelling and screaming and frothing at the mouth over a kids cartoon
@@princessadrigirl6774 Just look at how Jordan Peterson reacted to Frozen.
The Daily Wire's movie is not approved by a turtle.
Your words are valued, great turtle
In these troubled times, we can look to the consistency of a turtle's approval of events and media to help guide us through the darkness.
I like the Justin Y.-ing I see from you.
Hi Turtle! May I please pet your shell?
Go watch some vtubers you shelled freak
The whole "freedom of speech" argument from the right is just people facing consequences and claiming it's unfair. People don't want to support individuals who hold ideals they believe are abhorent or have committed horrifying actions and people not doing so harms companies who in turn may potentially not hire individuals.
The right want to stop people facing consequences and whenever they have a career issue blame it on people "cancelling them" rather than their personal failures.
I’m so glad you brought up how weird it was for them to have an MP-40, that was bugging me the whole time watching these clips. I think the more interesting thing to point out that none of the shooters seem to use an AR-15, the gun most commonly associated with mass shootings like this, and in fact, it’s the hero at the end who uses an AR derivative, very curious
Good guys use American-made guns.
Bad guys use imports.
Well they want to make the AR the “good guys gun” and make the shooters look like nazis (the mp-40 was designed by them) but logically the two answers would be an AK style rifle or an AR style if they wanted to show the contrast the logical answer would be the bad guys get AKs and the cops get ARs because although it’s unrealistic it would be easy to see the different groups of people at a glance
That “we want to inspire ppl To fight back” is actually disturbingly detached and rude, are they implying that ppl who died in school shootings didnt “fight back” and it’s detached bc it’s encouraging kids to instead of following the rules to survive that you try to fight back ? It’s gonna do nothing but get more ppl hurt if another one happened
Most people who die in school shootings are.. well.. kids.. most of them don't even have the courage to fist-fight let alone bumrush a school shooter.
I believe one of the components of fascism is heroism and that everyone have the obligation to be one when the time arrive
Being eager to fight back is also the best possible way to unintentionally escalate the death toll.
There's a reason that the advice says to "run" and "hide" first.
It's like the saying goes don't be a hero
Except there are actually a fair number of school shootings that were stopped by people who fought back. Contrary to popular belief bullets aren't magical flying death spheres that instant kill people. A coordinated attack from a handful of people can easily overwhelm a single shooter no matter what kind of gun he's using.
This is what annoys me the most about this rhetoric from idiots who don't understand guns, the death toll gets so high specifically because everyone runs and no one fights. It's a gun, you can't outrun a bullet, running away just allows the shooter to execute people at his leisure and make sure they're dead.
It's not a matter of heroism, YOU HAVE TO ATTACK HIM! If everyone, upon seeing the motherfuckers, just bum rushed them instantly, they'd beat him down right at the start with minimal deaths. But no, we're herd animals, we know we could team up and kill the dude like nothing but no one wants to be the first one shot and instead of maybe three or four dead it's 30, because everyone ran and he shot them as many times as he felt like, totally unthreatened.
You gotta love how they give one of them an MP40, an SMG from WW2, instead of an AR-15 or an AK.
It's a good weapon choice tho mans got good eye
Plus they're all clearly in their mid-20s and dressed like it's 2009. And how old is that model of van?
Mp-40s were and are good guns; why else would so many have been made?
I'm not saying its not got style, but those are so much harder to come by than an AR or an AK.
@@void8617 true enough
I went to the trailer of the original movie to leave a dislike and hate comment, and wasn’t expecting so many people praising its concept and execution. Incredibly disheartening on so many different levels
They moderate the comments and remove anything contradictory to it being 'the best movie ever made'. 110k views, 100 comments
@@bananaducc7918Of fucking course they do
@@brawler5760So much for “meh free speech.”
That movie from the trailer is like a repeat of a repeat. That theme has been done a bunch in Hollywood. The idea that writers, directors, singers, entertainers and huge corporations are leftist is just an irrational belief. Take any artist take Cardi B, who was outspoken against trump, is her music “leftist”? No, it’s not leftist. Take any actor that has been vocally against trump and take a look at their filmography, do they make leftist movies? No. There are like a million cop tv shows. And medical tv shows. None of that stuff is leftist. This thing that Shapiro is discussing is made up in his head. There are a ton of conservative themes in every aspect of American entertainment already. There isn’t room for subtle conservative themes in entertainment because you’ll just end up reproducing the entertainment that already exists Shapiro will soon find that out.
Anything left of far-right is immediately communist
I kind of want to make a script and see if they'll take it. How's this sound?
A mayor town cuts the funding to the local police department leading to a violent gang taking over the town. Now a former marine and a by-the-books deputy are the only ones who can stop them in CIVIL JUSTICE.
How to give yourself the middle finger without even realizing it.
@@aaronkelly1762 haha. I'm sure they'll buy this.
@@BobardeZanzibar Niiiice
"These things- to the extent that anything did happen- didn't happen under my watch" Translation="If I wasn't right there participating in the assault as it was happening then I am in no way responsible for the actions or safety of the people who work for me"
"I shouldn't have to worry about sexual harassments and assault if it means that I will lose a business opportunity"
"Those people don’t work for me, & I was neither participating in nor observing the assault."
Your description of Michelle in Elephant brought me to tears just thinking of the senseless loss of life of all the children whose names we’ll never know and whose potential will never be realised.
This movie is beyond distasteful and the creators should be ashamed of themselves. It’s a sick pro-gun revenge fantasy.
pro gun revenge fantasy is giving it to much credit. its a soulless piece of propaganda piece that tries to hide bad writing while pandering to an already mind drone audience....
A movie that tackles a shooting of young people- not in a school but still very much the same kind of thing- is Utøya: July 22, in which the shooter is never even seen. Instead, the entire movie is focused exclusively on the victims, and our POV as an audience is also a girl. Shot entirely in one take, it captures the randomness of it all, some characters survive merely because the shooter failed to see them, or missed; we spend a lot of time with those who die, there is no sugarcoating how horrible everything truly is but the focus is exclusively on the victims.
And while this perspective of zeroing in on the victims alone and not consider the shooter is obviously not the only one, it is a way of honoring their memory and of making sure he does not come across as "cool".
Because- and I cannot for the life of me understand why- Tristan comes across as actually sexy in a bad-boy kind of way. Of course he is a caricature and Ben and co. may be surprised that I would be willing to bet good money on the fact that a lot of his audience was half-rooting for Tristan all along.
As to the way in which the subject of good availability is not even touched upon in this movie: I like to remind American gun nutters that in my small country of Portugal, we have had zero school shooting. We also have strict gun laws. Now, I know this doesn't make much an impact on them but given they immediately reply with variations of "shithole country", I cannot help wondering if, in a way, it does not actually upset them more than they are willing to admit. This constant anger is...telling, to say the least.
I'll take "shithole country" where I can safely go to school without having to worry about being shot dead than their sick version of 'Murica any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
As an aside, I was a teen during Columbine- barely younger than the shooters themselves- and clearly remember being absolutely petrified. We discussed it between classes, "What would you do?" and if things were to happen, who would do it...?
And this in a country where, again, school shooting never happened...it still bothered, worried, and stressed out for a long, long time.
So I cannot even begin to imagine what this does to survivors and to every single American kid who, before setting out to school in the morning, genuinely worries, "Will I or any of my friends be shot dead today?" THAT is a tragedy that must touch...many, many, many children.
But hey, if only they learned how to fight, huh? /s.
I wish real life liberals were even half as cool as conservatives make them seem
Wait what lol?
@@historycritic4184 "liberals run all the media and outlets and are actively hating our gods and stifling our ability to spread our views, they have a stranglehold and a grand plan to take control" etc...
@@FFKonoko oh ya. Well u do know we all have our demonic powers given to us by George Soros’s new device….oh shhh I’ve said too much
@@historycritic4184 you fool ! You revealed our plan!
@@churroburro-813 Oh shit
I can't possibly explain the feeling of dread I get when I saw that the title of a movie was the "slogan" that my teachers told me during shooting drills. Disgusting even for the Daily Wire.
It's a bit like seeing "Work sets you free" displayed in your office entrance hall
@@theomegajuice8660 Wait, companies put that on the walls? Do these lot ever heard of the Holocaust?
@@ArcturusOTE I would Really hope not but the slogan can be reworded and be only vaguely recognizable.
It's tasteless and offensive. Like the videos author, I'm not saying this to the actors or most of the crew making the movie. They may not have been wholly complicit in the intention of it's creation. "Screw these assholes for creating this offensive trite."
You mean to say that the main character is a... w*man?
FEMINISTS HAVE TAKEN OVER BEN SHAPIRO!!!
THOSE MARXIST COMMUNIST SOCIALIST ANARCHIST LIBERAL GAY DEMOCRATS. THEY'RE RUINING THIS GOOD FASC- CHRISTIAN NATION!
Based Ben creates feminist Die Hard, thank you comrade
@@stuckonaslide anarcho liberalism
Yea and has a political boyfriend gasp! Race mixing propaganda anyone?
For a pro-gun movie about school school shootings, the creators of this flick sure have no idea how guns work other than they shoot things. You're telling me that NOBODY outside the cafeteria heard the gunshots when guns are EXTREMELY loud? Yeah, sure buddy. At my grandfather's funeral, they did a 21-gun salute from like half a mile away or more from where we were and they were so loud I thought they were right next to us. There's a reason they have you wear earmuffs at a firing range, and that's why: because you might actually go deaf if you didn't.
The "you can't imagine yourself in movies nowadays" comment is so telling. He's incapable of identifying or empathizing with anyone who's different from him. what a sad tiny world that is to live in
So... the main character's mind is broken from the trauma and she turns into a psychopath? Oh, wait, no, she was fighting and killing from the start so it's not really an arc at all.
That would make her too much of an interesting character.
@@Eightsixseven23224 she killed the girl because she was trying to kill her. She saved the other guy and coinvinced him to stop shooting and only near the end did she start to loose it
Conservative gun culture. The hunt is a traditional rite of passage, though usually for the young men more than women. Got to go out there, find a deer and shoot it to prove you are a tough, adult figure now. Not some namby-pampy liberal softie who cares about those meat-sacks that God put on the earth for man to eat.
The movie is already stupid. One of the kids is toting an MP40? Like... Where do you find a fully functional German WWII gun in suburban America?
Also it’s in really poor taste and just overall really bad because I can’t get past the subject.
Also also, I’m very lowkey disappointed that Action Girl didn’t take a hit in the leg and then the day had to be saved by *BRET* *HAWTHORNE*
He probably got the MP40 by stealing it from an antique gun collector. I know a gun collector who owns some WWII German guns. This film might be an accidental condemnation of antique gun collectors, which goes further than most gun safety advocates.
If you got like 10k you can just buy one online.
It's pretty regular to find vintage ww2-era firearms in the collections of right-wing-outcast-2A-type folks.
He would have to have stole it from a a museum or something. I just looked it up and they sell for auction at ~ $13,000, maybe the next film could be a prequel and it could be a heist movie.
@@jjjorp not really. There’s a lot of shit involved with getting Title II guns. Paperwork, age requirements, fingerprinting, background checks, fees, and a year+ of wait time while the paperwork gets through the system. A high schooler would not be able to obtain one on their own for so many reasons. That it was stolen is the most likely explanation.
However, there are semi auto repros that are relatively cheap. And those could be (dangerously) kludged to fire in a (very dangerous and unsafe to the user) imitation of fully automatic fire.
They seriously made a movie about a school shooting with about the same moral weight as the hostages in Paul Blart: Mall Cop
"God loves evil, because evil will be judged."
Oh God, I want to *scream,* that is almost literally the exact opposite of the Gospel's message.
Within the Gospel, it is emphasizes over and over again, that humanity should *not* work to exact any sort of justice against others, or condemn others for their immoral actions, or even just to be confident that the things we believe in and the actions we take are the correct ones. Taking pleasure in the fact that someone you dislike will "Get what they deserve" is so utterly contrary to everything Christ ever taught that it hurts me.
she never said loves but allowed and it was the girl's opinion.
@@alexthompson8977 it's a character in a movie
everything is by design
This movie hurts
God ALLOWS IT , not loves , if you are gonna quote ...quote it right
I wanna make a movie called the ultimate victim about a conservative white man who gets long extended death scenes at minor inconveinces inflicted by the left
*sees gay couple on tv*
*begins to sing I dreamed a dream*
That’s called PureFlix.
I'd watch, lol
*sees a trans woman* in the aaarrrms of an angeeeeel
I love it
you good bro
Wow, you libs really live in this fantasy world where you are projecting.
I would KILL to see True Allegiance be turned into a movie.
Yes! Don't listen to the haters, Ben. We need this!
It is not gonna happen. Ben is f*cking coward and after Capitol insurrection he won't dare to put on screen story were rightwing terrorists attacking government agents are good guys.
I just want to see the Bear of a man Brett hawthorn.
Quick before paul verhoeven dies
Can it please be done by the same people who made the movie based on that Chick Tract (Darkest Dungeons I think it was called)? I think that would turn out really great
I wonder if they will apply their rock solid ideology of letting the free market speak for itself to the fact that their movie ate balls at the box office
I remember when right-wingers got upset when they made a video game about the Columbine shooters. Now they just do it. wtf
It’s only good when they do it don’t you know?
Liberals got angry too. Don’t put the blame all on conservatives. Don’t you put that shit on us! Democrats like Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton who pushed for anti-rock, anti-rap, anti-gay, anti-pot and “videogames=violence” things. Those people were democrats.
Conservatives today don’t even hold that view today and I’m guessing you’d say the same for liberals.
@@kylevernon Conservatives today forced a Supreme Court justice in who would like to see us living in a Handmaid's Tale and will probably try to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges. Conservatives today elected a president who incited insurrection after constantly lying about the results of our national election; he finished his term by writing an executive order allowing government funded organizations to discriminate based on sexuality and gender identity.
I don't give a fuck what conservatives and democrats wanted a couple decades ago. Conservatives right now are a threat to freedom and democracy. Your whataboutism doesn't erase that.
@@onyxtay7246 Love how he says liberals and dems. But doesn't say leftists or progressives. Well said Kyle. Agreed : )
If you were to dare call me or avarickan a dem or a lib, you would be a joke : )
@@onyxtay7246 What are you talking about it is just against abortion which i admit is forceful
Ben is trying to backdoor his way into Hollywood.
He couldn't make it the first time- started an online cult following and now it trying to apply his following to getting a movie into the mainstream. It's kind of genius really.
I wonder if he name-dropped his cousin, Mara Wilson, when he tried and failed to start a career in Hollywood.
*Sounds 'genius' until you actually see what the movie's like and then it's hilarious and pathetic just like the rest of Shapiro's life/career*
He's literally copying the career path of multiple shitty RUclips creators and I love the cringe aspect of that. The difference being, they were (mostly) literally kids or early-20s and he's a grown adult with a family and kids. Really shows just how pathetic, petty and jealous he is.
@@Onoesmahpie His movie and books have the energy of a coke-heads rambling.
@@Onoesmahpie The genius is the fact that a turd can get forced into the mainstream with his strategy.
So, Zoe was then arrested for murder, right?
No the officer in charge shook her hand.
Premeditated murder is legal if it's done to bad people you silly
@@theomegajuice8660 By the state OR by wonderful patriots like our cold blooded killer Zoe.
@@niknieblas To be honest I don't think this is the problem or a big deal. It's not like John Maclean was arrested.
@@theomegajuice8660 that last killing was murder. she, as a civilian, was in no immediate danger and should have told the authorities on the scene about the guy disappearing in the woods. instead, she deliberately took up a gun with the intent of killing him.....and killed him. in other words....premeditated murder
I can't believe the Daily Wire promoted this movie as being politic-free escapism while a character keeps spouting word for word right wing talking points. 😆 Even crazier that they made that character the school shooter lol
"My movies are apolitical" from that guy sounds exactly like the nazi black metal bands claiming they're apolitical
Well, can you name a point in the film that it pushes a political message?
@@dfmrcv862 yeah, from the time it starts to the end
@@dfmrcv862 when good guy with a gun beats bad guys with a gun, showing an armed citizenry as the solution to the problems with an armed citizenry. Whether or not you think gun ownership should be upheld as a right or privilege (and I do think countries like Switzerland show it can work) that is a political statement. It's like how in Die Hard it's in no small part cops that save the day in a terrorist attack, making the work a pro-cop movie. Or how Lincoln shows fighting for the end of slavery in the U.S. as more important than ending the war, at least for a time. Just because you enjoyed the film without considering the politics, didn't watch the film because of the politics, and agree with the politics, doesn't mean they aren't there.
@@andrewlaporte5477 But that's *you* interpreting a political message where others don't.
It's not like in Spiderman Homecoming where a character downright lies about how the Washington Monument was built or when films like "outside the wire" imply that nuking the US can be seen as justified, it's a story where bad people try to hurt innocent people and an unlikely hero goes in and does her best to stop the bad guys.
I mean, dude, by your interpretation, every single action film would be political and that's just ridiculous. I mean-
Oh... no...
PLEASE don't tell me I somehow stumbled on that part of RUclips where everyone thinks that everything is somehow political!
@@QuikVidGuy ...you realize how much you sound like my church pastor when he said "anime is satanic"?
The existence of this movie reminds me of the South Park Season where no one, beside Stan’s Mom, cares about the ongoing school shootings anymore. They just see them as something totally normal which is now a part Of everyday life. The existence of this movie kinda makes me sick, as if we are moving forward to develop the same attitude towards school shootings.
This movie is just power fantasy
Where good guy inflict as much pain as possible on bad guy
Instead on focusing on things like:
-why this things happen
(How shooters are created)
-how act in this situaction
(How not fucking die)
-the damage inflict on vctims
(Death and trauma of young people)
-how prevent it
(Mental help for POTENTIAL shoter)
-healing of wounds
(Mental help for victims)
They could chose any of this
But instead they chose the power fantasy
Between 1850s-1910s train robbery’s were very common. You want to know one of the first movies created “The Great Train Robbery”.
As trains stopped being robbed in came the new trend. Bank robberies/bootleggers/gangsters were very popular between 1900-1950s. Then we got movies like Bonnie/Clyde, Scarface, and movies like that. Even a whole genre about gangsters.
As that trend ended, the serial killer began. 1950s-1980s. This is the big one. Dahmer, Bundy, Gein. They all have multiple biopics now. The recent being last year. The Slasher genre was built off of these famous real world killings that real victims suffered from. How is that really any different. The only difference is that serial killers in movies and in real life usually kill almost all their victims leaving 1-2 people with lifetimes of trauma whereas School Shooters leave entire schools of children with trauma.
If you can have a fictional serial killer like in the movies Se7en or Scream why not a fictional school shooting. Judge this movie as a film, not as a movie that offends your sensibilities. That’s all I’m asking for.
@@kylevernon This is judging it as a film. It's judging it as a film that attempts to normalize tragedy by turning horror into a power fantasy.
@@kylevernon You are a clown.
@@kylevernon you are delusional. Please medicate.
Rambo 2: Vietnam but this time we win
Run hide fight: Columbine but this time we win
Man, it really does come off like that, huh? Like the movie presents the good guys as having won the day, despite the villains having murdered *so many* people. What a hollow "victory"
Wait. The US won in Rambo 2? I thought the whole movie was about how the US lost and pull out of Vietnam and left some POWs behind that they have Rambo busted out like way after the war is over?
@@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz No, Rambo 2 isn't a literal alternate history film. But seeing Rambo in the Vietnam jungle killing commies and saving Americans does leave the while thing feeling like revenge porn. Hell, when he's being asked to go on the mission Rambo straight up asks, _"Do we get to win this time?"_
@@charliedawson6318 Yeah, make sense. But I hardly call that winning though. But I guess you could say the same thing about revenge in general. Just cause you get even with the other guy doesn't really change the fact that you still lost something, possibly forever. It's just unfulfilled.
Although I always thought Rambo 1and 2 was more about how the US just kinda ditched people who got involved in Vietnam War after the fact, especially the soldiers cause it was unpopular back home. The Viet Cong was there mostly as background really. I always got the feeling the movies was more about bashing America than the Viet Cong.
@@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz well it has Pows in the 1980s and there is no vidence of Vietnam keeping pow's that long, so they are clearly the "bad guys", but of course the American bureacrats are to blame too.
It’s sad that in the States tragedies like this happen fairly regularly and then this fucking movie is like “Um, just stop it, it’s that easy! Sensible mental health policies and proper gun control? No, that’s socialist!”
"proper gun control" Define, please.
If you were in charge, what 3 or 4 policies would you implement? (And how?)
@@PanhandleFrank In retrospect, I don’t think any policies can help the states due to how much guns you all have in circulation. Very hard to legislate when there’s guns everywhere and state-wide policies have little impact due to how interlocked America is as a bunch of states.
@@bumperbonnie5721 Gotcha.
"Y'all don't have proper gun control!"
But aslo, "Y'all can't possibly pass proper gun control!"
GTFOHWTBS.
@@bumperbonnie5721 News flash: Out of almost 21,000 gun murders in 2021, somewhere between 100 and 700 of those were from mass shootings (depending on which definition of "mass shooting" you use).
WAY more gun murders in Dem-run $ch!tt-hole cities, between gang-bangers. But by all means, let's focus on the SMALLEST source of gun murders.
@@PanhandleFrank I suppose I've come to the realization in the past 8 months or so that there are too many guns in circulation, thanks for your keen observation skills, you somewhat noticed this.
god I love the director's suggestion that his work is actually apolitical. "Conservatives don't like my work because it's politically geared towards them. It's actually neutral. I just treat everything conservatives want as if it's automatically good without any need for justification." it's the perfect example of "movies are political when I don't like them" meme.
That’s exactly how people act in the video game industry.
@@moesalamander7012 elaborate?
@@FFKonoko Big game developers will make games about war and conflict and explicitly state that their games “aren’t political”. But maybe it’s the fans’ fault for this, because anytime there’s a woman or minority they get all pissed off about “politics” while praising political games like bioshock and fallout new Vegas. Jacob Geller has a fantastic video about Modern Warfare (2019) that I can’t recommend enough about this subject
The thing is, while I would be annoyed and rolling my eyes, I would have respect to the creator to be open with there conservatives stuff in the work they made
oh ok so movie this is just pseudo-justice porn for that "everyone is a hero" part of fascism.
Everyone's a hero isn't exclusively fascist
Now that I think about it that is a part of almost every political spectrum
What about this was fascist. Justice Porn is awesome.
It's the good-guy version of Saw
@@rafetizer Finally someone points this out. This movie is no different than a slasher movie or something like that. Plenty of Slasher movies are based on real events which are worse compared to this fictional event in the movie.
@@kylevernon I mean, my point was that it's torture porn like Saw, but you get to feel like the good guys are allowed to do it because it's self defense.
27:23 They’re trying to have it both ways. They can’t backtrack on their talking point that “mainstream movies are bad because Hollywood is trying to shove politics down people’s throats,” and yet, they are also explicitly trying to position this movie as an advocacy piece for conservative values. This leads to such a dissonance that they end up with a movie that conflicts with its own message, and they’re forced to talk about it in a tone that completely trivializes the subject matter they’re trying to tackle.
I'd just like to add this, "run, hide or fight", is specifically what you're told when they prep you for a school shooting, I was in florida schools when there was a shooting in the town over, they tell us, "run if you feel like you will be able to, hide if you can't run, fight if you must but only as a last resort." You mentioned this but I felt like adding it because it's not just some offhand thing they mention in florida schools, it's very important and is told countless times to kids.
About the weapons: I think the guns, and especially the MP40 machine gun, have been chosen because having the bad guys use more conventional weapons like AR-15s (usually the type of firearms that are used in mass shooting scenarios) could upset the conservative audience of the movie who typically owns them.
I noticed the MP40 too. A original working MP40 is worth a lot of money. Where did he get it??
@@antongrahn1499 To be fair, I think that since they were produced in large numbers, some MP40s are still in circulation on the black market and possessed by criminals... in Europe.
In the US, they're indeed collector items, so if you want to get yourself a SMG, it would probably be a lot easier to convert a civilian-market Uzi to fire full-auto, or something like that.
I know right! Getting your hands on an MP40 would be hard enough, but one that's cleaned and fully operational? No chance in hell for a kid his age.
they arent that expensive my friend has one from the 60s or 70s. The expensive ones are the originals actually used in wwii
Yup, I came to the same conclusion. The 3 most recent, most deadly school shootings- Sandy Hook, Parkland, and Uvalde- were all committed with an AR-15 style gun. Admittedly Uvalde hadn't occurred when they were making this film, but I don't think it would be a reach to say the next school shooting will probably be done with an AR-15.
Because they've infamously featured in so many mass shootings, an AR-15 would be a realistic candidate for the school shooter in your film to wield. I presume the filmmakers opted not to put one in for the same reason.
"We Need to Talk About Kevin" had the shooter use a bow, specifically because the filmmaker wanted the discussion of the film *not* to be about gun control. It seems the strategy for "Run Hide Fight" was to seek an audience too dim to consider it. There's been some massacres with bows, so it's more believable than an MP40.
Or maybe I'm overthinking it and the filmmakers just conveniently had some Nazi paraphernalia lying around and threw it in the film.
So many people whine about "leftists" or "political correctness" to ignore the fact that their position or product is just unpopular or crap.
Like, COME ON, Die Hard in a school shooting? What? How many people want something that tasteless?
I'd watch it, especially if the main character was a girl. Most Die-Hard-like movies push the "one person with a gun saves the day" narrative and use quasi-realistic terrorist attacks as fun action setups, so its not like a movie like that would really be doing anything different.
It is absolute political correctness, the idea you shouldn’t be allowed to question whether the kids shouldn’t have been so easily able to get the guns and also if you’re in a school shooting you should just fight back and not let the shooter(s) slaughter everyone in the school, uhh some people are just evil don’t think about it (until they make the decision to understand people who do evil things that are part of their political base)
@@demilembias2527 ...like tasteless movies like this?... right...
It's not just tasteless but horrifyingly tone deaf because psychologists keep telling the media STOP GIVING SCHOOL SHOOTERS THE LIME LIGHT! It's even written into the film that the kid wants to be famous so the writer was aware of this yet still released it. Even if their intent was to make him bland lets not pretend actual school shooters are any less unappealing yet still garner followers due to infamy. Our kids are scared, literally marching for their lives while adults in power don't care and society is like "How can we monetize their pain and trauma?" Just like stop please and use the production money to help scared students.
If the US lasts long enough for the "Zoomers" to become politicians let us hope they are not vengeful on us old folks and make us play Senior Hunger Games.
@@ThexDynastxQueen Oh no promises on that last bit. Prepare for the annual Boomer Remover Games!
they actually, unironically wrote "...or is it?" as the wham line. are you fucking kidding me
YEAH BRO
TALENTED WRITERS
Easily could've been rewritten to be that she leads with "my dad says" then gives the monologue, and ends with "But I'm not him."
*vsauce music begins*
@@wowreacts9717 “This, is a nice suburban school...or is it?” *vsauce music plays and gunshots can be heard in the background*
I know this movie is aiming for an 80’s action movie vibe, but damn is that such a forced “badass” line.
As a "mass violence/shooting" survivor and former hostage, I would reorder those as Run, Fight, Hide.
Also, if you actually witnessed anything and espaced, don't immediately go home. Find the local "staging area" because various groups including the police and media will definitely want to interview/question you
That’s wild in the same comment you claimed to be a victim but also recommended victims go talk to the media and police before any kind of unwinding or safety
@@ScatterBrainedYouBetterFollow what's wild is you disbelieving someone and calling their lived experience out for being not what you would do... it's a great idea to find the staging area, where there will be emergency services and resources for you btw.
22:55 Conservatism: When racism isn't a systemic problem but negative movie reviews are.
Negative reviews from commie critics.
@@yoyo-lf3ld Commie critics? What the fuck are you even talking about?
@@Matter-Dark Shadow is slicing down the argument to a single experience he had that nobody knows about and has nothing to do with the movie because 'REEEEEE politics' "REEEE they actually want me to make a clear argument, I must insult and dehumanize them personally based on politics." Holy crap it's exhausting. Try arguing with a Born-Again So-Called-Christian. 9/10, THIS is what you get.
Conservatism: when a lack of systemic problems is a systemic problem.
Someone crashed a pickup truck into the front doors of my high school when I was in the 11th grade. Literally the entire building shook and we thought it was an earthquake. There is no way everyone wouldn’t have known as soon as that van drove through the cafeteria.
I've said this as soon as I've heard about the movie, but I'll say it again: This movie's existence is a parody.
Ordinarily, it would make sense to make a parody where a Die Hard-style movie takes place in a school shooting to showcase how desensitized people have been to the concept of school shootings (like that south Park episode). But the fact that this is a genuine movie that doesn't ask anything of its audience and still presents itself as a cheesy action movie (complete with over the top dialogue, crazy villains, and explosions) proves that without a shadow of a doubt. As Jessica Klang said in her review (which you helpfully point out here, 24:13), "At literally no point in this weirdly lumbering, sluggish movie's narrative does its grotesque tastelessness ever appear to have occurred to anyone involved."
Also, holy shit, they actually killed a deer for a scene? What is this, Cannibal Holocaust?
This is a shit movie. Do you eat meat, tho?
@@keithklassen5320 I don't eat meat, but I think that killing an animal and keeping its frozen corpse around to produce content for your garbage film is morally worse than killing an animal to eat. This deer, having been used for so long as a prop, is very unlikely to have been eaten. A senseless death.
@@kwarra-an Yeah, plus was there seriously not enough budget in the prop department to make like a fake deer carcass? Like I feel they took the opposite lesson from the "baby" in American Sniper and said "Well I guess it should all be real, then!"
I myself eat meat, but even so, it's really bizarre when people try to excuse stuff like this happening because meat production exists. By that logic, someone could excuse testing on animals and the dairy industry because it all results in pain and death in the end.
@@whichcache2517 even if they were absolutely adamant about using a real deer, there are "actor" deer available! Hiring an animal wrangler would presumably not be out of their budget (they could afford car crashes, explosions and extras after all). Even the moths in Silence of the Lambs were "professionals" handled by a professional moth wrangler.
@@kwarra-an Oh, neat, so they could've dab some fake blood on one and they'll pretend to be dead/dying and it's all legit? That's pretty cool, actually.
There was a man who carried out a mass shooting in a movie theater who was inspired by the joker and openly wanted to imitate him, and the Columbine shooters planted bombs in the school which they intended to go off after the shooting.
It’s just so tasteless to use those elements of genuine tragedies in a shoot em up action movie
Imagine making a movie about a school shootings in the us and saying it is edcapism
Not only that, but a terrible one. @@M60A3
"Our film is totally apolitical!"
(Proceeds to rant about "liberal" Hollywood and partner up with a right-wing propaganda outlet for distribution)
Them proceeds to be offended by people that talks about this aspect of the movie
Can you point to the scene in the *film* that was political and not something out of the interviews?
@@dfmrcv862 the whole concept of thinking that more guns will solve school shooting
Portraying the villains as totally evil and that school shooting are inevitable
The whole "subtext" of the movie
@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 ...when *in the film* did they say "more guns solve the problem" let alone that school shootings are inevitable? Did I miss a scene?
And... portraying the *bad guys* as totally evil in an action film is a political message now???
*movie
“The loudest hand dryer in the history of mankind”
So, just an air dryer?
Maybe cause he hasn't been outside much in months he forgot how loud those damn things are lol.
That’s the most believable thing 😂😂 those fuckers are LOUD
I cannot get over how utterly dorky they all look sitting around in their little set with their tuxedos.
'Polytechnique' is a film i would recommend about a school (college) shooting that treats its subject matter with respect. It gives a voice to the victims, killed because of misogyny (the shooter didn't like women being accepted to an engineering school), rather than to the vague idea that guns should be in schools
Well, if they do adapt "True Allegiance" for the screen, the only possible man who could portray Combat General Brett Hawthorne is Ben himself.
A six foot tall "bear of a man"?
@@MrJstorm4 They can green-screen him in, like he's Gandalf in a room full of dwarves.
@@paulelkin3531 use Forced perspective
@@MrJstorm4 They're trying to get Ben to look human height. Will forced perspective be enough?
@@paulelkin3531 in any scene where he has to stand face to face in the same frame will have them stand on a step ladder whenever he's looking at someone's back we can use a small child
Any filmmaker that says about how movie with such heavy subject matter, "it's escapism, it's entertaining, you feel like you're in it, and you forget you're watching a movie, so often they're not these days," should not be a filmmaker.
Or they shouldn't expect a lot of invites to any award ceremonies.
How does the guy at 25:25 sit there and tell high schoolers that they should be more proactive in 'fighting back' against a school shooter and really think he is saying the right thing? How does he not recognize what an absolutely ghoulish thing it is to say, to even put the onus on these literal children in the first place???
the real systemic problem in America is all of our cowardly children who don't even know how to fight to the death anymore. /s
It's absolutely disgusting.
TBF, this "retaliation is a last resort" mentality is only a thing in America.
"We need to focus on mental health,"
"School shooters are inherently evil and we shouldn't examine why they do the shootings"
Shapiro wants us to believe school shooters are just born monsters and there is nothing that can be done about how they turn out. People like Shapiro refuse to actually DO anything in regards to the mental health crisis in our country, they just want to cry about it. This movie fundamentally proves that mindset. The villains are literally caricature movie villains. In reality, just about all of the school shootings that happen could have been prevented had we actually had adequate mental health care in the US, if students were properly educated in mental health and how their behaviors affect others, and if red flag gun law were actually keeping weapons out of the hands of shooters. School shootings CAN be prevented, but Shapiro seems to believe they are inevitable.