Where do we go when we die? Can we know for sure? 🤔 from Ask NT Wright Anything podcast
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The show that connects you to NT (Tom) Wright’s thoughts and theology through your questions. Produced by Premier Unbelievable in partnership with SPCK and NTWrightOnline.
About NT (Tom) Wright: Tom Wright is one of the world’s leading New Testament scholars and the author of numerous books including Surprised by Hope, The Day The Revolution Began, Paul: A Biography and most recently Jesus and the Powers. He will be on the Unbelievable show talking about this very soon. Tom Wright is senior research fellow at Wycliffe Hall, University of Oxford. Wright is ordained in the Church of England and, among other roles, served as Bishop of Durham between 2003 - 2010. He is much in demand as a lecturer around the world and the author for the bestselling For Everyone commentary series and the New Testament For Everyone Bible translation.
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The interesting thing about death is the self awareness that you feel momentarily by noticing the fact that you are going to die. And that from one point in time and for all of existence before that point, you never even existed. The experience of that self awareness is mindboggling.
Hi hello howdy greetings bless
I think that Tom is pretty clear in what he believes about this. The comments that act as they he blathers on and doesn't answer the question or gives the same response no matter the question, not sure where you are coming from. Read many of his books and listened to many of his talks. Sometimes there is repetition because the message of the Gospel has alot of recurring themes. So much negativity here, folks. The Gospel calls us to listen and, if Tom Wright is not your cup of tea, keep scrolling.
Please check out Eastern Orthodox's understanding of the new age to come...
APOKATASTASIS!
NO ONE knows for sure, but I 'll be happy to make up shit!
That’s his answer to every single question. Every talk, every book is just a repeat of that
What was the answer? Are the departed still trapped by Time such that they must wait for Heaven and Earth to meld; so they wait in some place like Paradise? No offense to the nonbelievers here, but if you could hold your snark. A true intellectual would first try to understand the argument. But I must say, in just 3mins I did not hear a coherent answer but just a lot of extraneous "your dad," "my mum," etc.
Not sure we were listening to the same words. I felt his answer was not only clear but pretty helpful. One way, not the only way, but one way of looking at the journey that is life after death of "those who believe."
@@georgeroberts9527 So, what was the answer then? Where are the dearly departed?
Oh dear! When the Thessalonians complained to Paul that their dead loved ones would miss out on Jesus' return, he penned 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 :-
"13 But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words." [NASB 1995]
So, Paul is quite clear : the dead are dead, but asleep in Jesus. They need to be raised, and united to those who are alive and to be transformed at Christ's return. They are not in bliss in Heaven or Paradise : are they supposed to be there, in enjoyment, only to be dragged at the Last Day to be judged? No, we sleep in Jesus, unconscious to all including ourselves, until Jesus raises us up at the Last Day.
I do not infer from this particular passage that Paul is saying that the dead are dead at all. Wright's explanation makes as much sense to me as any other idea about what happens to us when we die.
a hole in the ground to rot or burnt into ash not a difficult question.
I hope you're happy in this life
That’s not where the evidence is pointing to at all. I suggest doing research into near death experiences. There are some really compelling ones.
@@TyrellWellickEcorp But be cautious - remember they are near death experiences not death experiences.
@@BrysonCole-rl2rj No, there are many who have been pronounced clinically dead and recalled their soul or essence or whatever you want to call it separate from their physical bodies. All the available evidence leads to the conclusion that consciousness persists after death.
@@TyrellWellickEcorp If consciousness persists after the body is clinically dead, then you haven’t died.
Consciousness can "die" so "we" won't know
Paul was an AntiCrust and a Heister
Are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
@@ReverendDr.Thomas I won't give the long answer , you can't believe in something you can't define so you can't believe in God it's impossible.
You can have a system of actions that you believe are the most beneficial and have faith in the system.
God died when people tried to personify and define him, someone once said ""the belief in the Christian God has become unbelievable", everything that was "built upon this faith, propped up by it, grown into it is bound to "collapse"
@@gravitheist5431, I am not really concerned about what any particular person BELIEVES. You may believe that there is an old man with a white beard perched in the clouds, that the Ultimate Reality is a young blackish-blue Indian guy, that the universe is eternal, that Mother Mary was a certifiable virgin, or that gross physical matter is the foundation of existence.
The ONLY thing that really matters is your meta-ethics, not your meta-physics.
Do you consider any form of non-monarchical government (such as democracy or socialism) to be beneficial?
Do you unnecessarily destroy the lives of poor, innocent animals and gorge on their bloody carcasses?
Do you believe homosexuality and transvestism are moral?
Do you consider feminist ideology to be righteous?
If so, then you are objectively immoral, and your so-called "enlightened/awakened" state is immaterial, since it does not benefit society in any way.
@@gravitheist5431 I find that the Gospels, if one believes in God, make a lot of sense. If belief in God makes more sense to one (it sure does to me) than we arrived here by some incredibly implausible, billions to one, accident, then what isn't possible?
00.00 to 00.20 . Such a prejudiced and one-sided start to the answer is indeed "unbelievable". I immediately switched off
Yep. These presuppositionalists are borderline dillusional.
What a bland response! No sense of urgency or passion on a subject that affects our eternal destiny! But then one must not offend by being Christ-like. See, e.g., Luke 16:19ff..
Let me save your time
NO ONE KNOW FOR SURE.
END OF DISCUSSION
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What if its by any chance TRUE? What's the consequences to that? And Likewise what if its not TRUE? What's the consequences to that as we!l?
@@emmanuelansah4035
I cant be wrong or right because i said I dont know. No one does for sure. No one has been brain dead for days to come back and tell us
pascals wager huh?
That applies to ANY religion does it not?
What if you PICKED THE WRONG GOD? What happens?
If im wrong it depends on the god, if im right i just die. The only difference between you and me is i dont believe in one more relgion than you.
@@xMckingwill oh okay I understand you brother. Well I think regardless there's a thread of TRUTH out there and it's not in the " I don't know" or "Care". I think there's a lot at stake to gamble my way out. Because if there's indeed nothing out there after death then no one will probably know since we cease to exist after death and no consciousness. I think that'll be cool if it's true. No accountability. Doesn't matter how I treat you or do with my life. For me, it wouldn't make sense just to live this life and cease to exist just like that. What matrix is that.
This is just how I think deep about the issue and I don't want to gamble with my life because if I die today and your worldview is true I wouldn't even know but if indeed there's something out there after death....I gotta figure out what or who that is.
@@emmanuelansah4035 Well when i mean "I dont know" is not the same as "I dont care" its because we genuinly dont know and many are trying to figure it out.
The universe is not obligated to make sense or work the way you wish. Unfortunatly🤷♂️.
Regardless of what you believe you are taking a gamble, you may be angering at least one god. The only solution is to believe in EVERY god, even the one i just made up the pink ballon god of truth!! See the issue?
easy solution to carry a world view of leaving the world better than when were there to make life better for the next generations.