@@audreybailey5139 yup. I was making the point that trash like this gets made because corporation are infested with "yes men" and those that stand up get flayed. We are the only ones who can change this by not watching. WB is finally understanding this.
HotD has been a snooze fest barring Matt Smith, who is basically carrying the show and even he is no Peter Dinkage but ironically that show is getting 9 out of 10 reviews, 9/10 !!! LOL
Galadriel calling Elendil a "mortal" is another travesty- Galadriel, who takes after her brother Finrod, shows unusual kindliness and understanding when speaking to Men and Dwarfs. She has a genuine respect for the other Children of Illuvatar. This show cannot get one thing right about Galadriel.
She comes across as too brash, angry, anxious, unreasoning, quick to judgement, yet endowed with plot armor that makes her impervious to all serious consequences. Maybe after she's given one of the elven rings she'll calm down a bit.
For some reason i can comm on the video but only on others comms so let me say it. Ur so bitter and you dont want tk see good in this show. Isnit 10/10? No, far from it. But why would you trash the sigil stuff when 2 things are in play. First u never saw it coming and the the second one, she new thats the map of mordor only when she heard the story behind it. Also why would anyone wanna see how halbrand stole something if he already did it (dagger). We know hes a fcking good thief. He has money, and if u think about it for half a sec u get how he got it. U all hating it cos u expected somethimg different. Go with this show an try to enjoy, otherwise ur just a guy who spent 7 years thinking how to get fcking subs.
@@mustang607 If Celebrimbor has an ounce of lore left, he would never give one of the Elvin Rings to this Galadriel besides that this Galadriel would refuse Nenya, the ring of water as not being much of a weapon and probably wrestle Narya, the Ring of Fire out of Cirdan's hand ( or Gandalfs)
I kind of wish they actually made the series about Sauron instead, it would have actually made more sense and maybe a little more interesting. But I think people would have had issues with it, because he's a villain.
"This man saved us from certain death" - she told the queen. Wait a second, didn't you purposely jump into the ocean, thousands of miles from middle earth? Woman is angry and suicidal.
It's like there's a team of writers who have written different plots & dialogues for each character in each episode. Then instead of the head writer reading the scripts and editing it to ensure continuity in the characters and plot, decided to just forward it to the production team and they shot the scenes. One episode you have happy singing hobbits, next episode they are psychopaths who leave people behind, next episode we will come to know that they use dead Harfoots as compost. Same for the sigil. In one episode, it's a mark that Sauron brands his victim with and next episode it's a map? Why TF would Sauron mark victims with his address? Glad I'm not watching this show lol. I'm not a super Tolkien fan but as a reader and fan of fantasy and the LotR films, please don't abuse the works of great literature. If you cannot be faithful to the books to a certain degree, then don't adapt them.
For a moment there I genuinely thought you meant that the next episode we _actually_ learn that Harfoots (Harfeet?) use their dead as compost. I doubt anything would surprise me at this point.
Halbrand being Sauron would be incredibly stupid. Why is this show acting like Mordor doesn’t exist yet? It was established in 1000 SA and Barad-Dur was completed 1600 SA after the One was made. When is this show supposed to take place, because Amazon has tossed the actual timeline of events out the window. Slo-mo horse riding made my eyes roll so hard.
Halbrand has smithing abilities, that is no coincidence. He being sauron would fit into this lazy amazon writing: galadriel wants to kill sauron with a vengeance, and he was so close to her but she did not notice.... wooooah what a twist!
Well, maybe this comment might help you continue to do these reviews: I am not tolkien expert, I enjoy the books and some times get lost with all the names and places. Watching your reviews of the shows helps me to correct the show and at the same time, connect with some of the places, people, items, lore that get lost in my addled brain! Basically, your reviews help me understand Tolkien's stories better. Currently slogging my way through The Silmarillion....
If you're slogging through the Silmarilion, then try the audiobook. I tried a couple of times to read it but couldn't wrap my brain around the insane amount of new words/names/places... The narrator of the official version does a wonderful job and sails through the difficult passages with ease and gravitas.
@Esu Miwa Try reading it at Conversation Speed, as though you were reading aloud. Your retention will Double and you will also get the emotion out of it. That will help you with names, as you will suddenly find yourself involved with each character. How...you read it, will change Everything. 😉👌.
@@JackChurchill101 This should help. Try reading it at Conversation Speed, as though you were reading aloud. Your retention will Double and you will also get the emotion out of it. That will help you with names, as you will suddenly find yourself involved with each character. How...you read it, will change Everything. 😉👌
If the show acknowledges that Elros was the first king of Numenor, and that many kings have succeeded him (Miriel mentioned her grandfather's great grandfather etc), then that paints Elrond is an even worse light. His brother established a kingdom that subsequently grew over a thousand years under his many descendants, while during that time, Elrond hasn't done anything of worth aside from being Gil-galad's speechwriter, and is not even worthy of attending a meeting of elf-lords.
remember about every male character is either a baddy or a douchebag, how else can a mediocre unlikeble female look great. and as cringy she may have been in the promotion tour, I think Sophia "He is staying for diner" Nonvete would have made a better Galadriel.
The harfoots are psychopaths. They will leave you for dead if you fall behind, then remember you later by repeating "we will wait for you" These animals are savages, yet their "hearts are bigger than their feet" WTF? 🤣
In the first episode the two villagers with the antlers warned the Harfoots would be evil, then they looked cute in the next scene and the audience laughed about their assessment. If the Harfoots desert their one people, how brutal can they be to outsiders?
I'm guessing it's the writer's hamfisted metaphor for progressives who are "moving forward" and leaving all the conservatives and supposed dum dums behind for dead unless they can somehow "catch up" with them and agree their poisoned sense of morality.
This is one of the most glaring things that I cant believe anyone in production said "hey wait maybe we should change this a bit"...but no, just have all those able-bodied hobbits just walk behind the other wagon and not help the injured family.
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 they were kind to the Gandalf stranger, so the writing is all screwed up. A broken foot will sentence you to death in their society. The next episode will showcase the harfoot thunderdome event
There is much satisfaction in hearing what I’m thinking but said by someone else 😂. Thank you my good sir and I cant wait to see your accurate version of what the show should be.
it's also convenient it was found right at the place she jumped in the water out in nowhere, where she found the Star Destroyer wreck ....ok that didn't happen but it will.
I know your struggling to get through these episodes, so am I but I do love your take on them so I hope you carry these videos going. I am looking forward to how you would have written this series and apply the lore properly. It is a drag to get through an episode and I hope it speeds up soon, but at the moment I'm only watching them to see how screwed up they are getting it. And then to hear your view on them. Thanks for sticking with it for us all,
Thanks! Yeah I'm mainly looking forward to make videos on how I would write season one of a Second age show :P It's very much the opposite of the Rings of Power
@@sagefields If you are struggling here, do not watch the "9 out of 10" HotD show, you will need a pillow and set your alarm clock for everytime Dameon enters the scene.
Some of my issues where how the two elves got captured before Arondir? Galadriel with really no issues just being able to leave the city and visit Halbrand in the dungeons, even though she had been told to not leave the palace grounds. The hobbits eagerness to just leave people for dead because they broke their foot? An injury that will likely heal. I also didn't understand the rush of migrating, or the danger if migrating a bit slower. At least if there was some sense of urgency, leaving someone behind would make more sense. I'm glad that prosthetic orcs are back though.
Indeed, 5:54 also that wide shot of them in the pit didn't look right? Like the scale was off, also how did the elves or anyone miss the orcs vast cloth tunnel/clearing? lol
Usually, princes were regent on behalf of their fathers, uncles or kinsmen who were the actual monarchs. If her father is still alive, Miriel should be princess regent, not a queen on her own right. But something tells me that the writers thought that this would be demeaning to her. Although I think that the real problem is that they are ignorant fools who don’t even know how a monarchy works. Why the mystery concerning her father’s appearance? Either he’s black or he married a black woman, in order to Miriel be brown (since Elros was white). Unless the writers will suggest that skin color and ethnicity are random in Middle-earth (like where parents could have a black child and vice-versa).
actually I don't care wether her father or/and her mother are black. They should have ditched the racial connections altogether and saturised the show with non-whites to such a degree that it would not even be notice if the child has the same colour as the parent or the brother the same cour of his sister. When one needs to show a family relation one shows that family relation by acting, not by painting or make up. But it seems this cast could not even be a convinching brother and sister even when they were that in real life.
@@kamion53 Race does matter if you want the world to be consistent. There is a reason why some people would have different facial structure and skin color. The world makes no sense without proper lineage and a goddamn good explanation to why all these races have mixed together, if 70 percent of your society is white, yeah, you ain't gonna have any dark person be king by chance.
@@Ryuuken24 ".... if 70 percent of your society is white, yeah, you ain't gonna have any dark person be king by chance...... " then make sure that the society in your movie with a message is not 70% white, but as diverse as a saturday market in Camden. Games of Throne did have a predominant white cast for the leading characters, but when you looked at the crowd of the city of Kings Landing you could not pinpoint down what region of the world it was, that population was pretty diverse. Amazon made a lot of fuss about being woke and non-racist but prooved to be the opposite by placing just a few non-whites at strategic places, but it did not have the guts to cast a black or asian actress as Galadriel. What now stands out as a sour thumb is how NOT-diverse the cast is.
With my rant now over, I have my points for this video. Well presented and sound reasoning 10/10. Accurate use of Lore and explanations for assessments of the episode 10/10. Humor and use of stills to explain the episode 10/10. Ability to suffer through one of the worst shows every produced 20/20. I love the content and presentation. I have even started to read the stories based on how interesting and rich you have made it sound. Keep up the great work!!
I always pictured Nùmenor more Arthurian, like Camelot or Avalon. This looks like Mykonos (White and Blue), and the queen and guards look Babylonian darker skin with Blue and Gold outfit. I guess they tried to run with the Atlantis theme and forgot this is supposed to be a AngloSaxon-esque golden age.
This all day!! I remember they showed a scene from Numenor and there was a guy in the crowd that looked like he was wearing a Thobe (middle eastern garb for men) a chin beard and a Fez. There was a whole Lord of the rings source book that came out with the first movie. They had a bunch of pages dealing with the Numenoreans. Entire descriptions of the people. The Culture and the Military. Yeah nothing about what they have on screen even looks like it would be Anglo Saxon.
All in all i found this episode at least less boring. However it's becoming increasingly hard not to skip parts about the hobbits - they're just so irritating. And the "the sea is always right" - seems someone was forcing "the night is dark and full of terrors" in here. So much bad writing.
I'm also here for the lore, so I'm grateful if you continue doing these. I'm a long-time fan of Tolkien but I can't remember everything so your videos are helpful and interesting. I can't stand the show either and I'm so sad what they've done with Galadriel.
I'm really disappointed with how Numenor looks. They nailed the esthetic of a antiquity/medieval city. It really looks like an ancient and busy capital city should look. The thing is, Numenor shouldn't look like that. It should look absolutely perfect, like it was built the day before, with impeccable streets and immaculate buildings. Also the Numenorians don't look right. They should all be tall and physically very fit. Here they just look like normal humans. Edit: another thing; I just realized that in the show it's been only about a week since Galadriel came back to Lindon. In one week she made more progress in her hunt of Sauron than in literal hundreds of years. Just because she decided to jump from her ship in the middle of the sea...
Seriously. They look no different from the drunken poor in the Southlands do. I can forgive the beards if they all at least looked like Elendil, even though that still wouldn’t be accurate. Shit, Elendil and Isildur should be like 7-8 feet tall
Yep, I've been trying to visualise how Numenor should look, and I've got one idea: a cross between the MCU Asgard and movie versions of Atlantis (not fancy technology I mean, but everything shiny and new) - the mistake they made was to look at Minas Tirith in the Jackson movies and say ok, that's Numenor. What they don't realise is that Tolkien is writing this story from a late Medieval mindset, that things which came before are better than now, so Numenor should have been ten times better than anything in Gondor of the late Third Age. And you're right about the Numenorians not looking right - they should also be the pinnacle of human perfection, because they were! I'm wondering if the showrunners read ANY Tolkien because that was the whole issue of Numenor: that they were strong and beautiful and very long-lived for humans, but that wasn't enough for them. They wanted to be immortal like the Elves and go to Valinor - they were never satisfied.
If Sauron Halbrand is in Numenor and is corrupting them now, then the rings of power should have been made 1762 years ago, Eregion is destroyed Khazad dum is shut and Rivendell is built.
Halbrand being able to single-handedly wipe the floor with the group of Numenorian guildsmen was so cringy too me. Numenorians are elevated men blessed by their proximity and original favor of the Valar. This was the same race who landed in Middle Earth and by their very show of strength and greatness, made Sauron run with his skirt pulled up, waving the white flag as he went.... but Halbrand was able to play his favorite scene from "Taken" with them.
@@jagatech9345 and Galadries supposed to be a wise queen and not a raging Karen with a sword. And Ar Pharason, Elendil and Tar-Míriel are supposed to be 1500 years after the forging of the Rings. And Finrod supposed to be a chad, and to die in a different time under a different circumstances. Isn't it obvious yet that this whole show is just one huge fanfiction?
@@OverLorD768 I know man, goes to show that they dont care about the source material unless its comfortable enough for them to do whatever fan fiction they have going on in their heads. It is very confusing and frustrating when you know the actual timeline. When I saw Elendil I was horrified at their level of not giving a fucx that they just sqashed thousand of years of events at the same time.
The background scenery was beyond superb, everything else, the acting, the plot, the character development, not so much. Honestly, I think Clark should have played the Queen of Numenor, and someone else should have played the leading role of Galadriel.
On the issue of the map-sigil, why should the victims of Sauron be branded with the map? And if the original Galadriel got from the lore master was by a human spy, why TF it is written in the "dark language ?"
If that's the logo of Sauron it makes sense and Saurons Logo is based on landmarks which also makes sense is very common in medieval times. That they did not discover it earlier, especially since that is the place where the former Morgoth followers live, is another topic.
Dont mind me.. im just gonna watch some clips of Cate’s Galadriel and Lee Pace’s Thranduil to remind me how elves should act and look like.. and because its sunday im gonna watch sir Ian’s Gandalf quotes to wash my ears with that “the Sea is always right”
Okay, nobody has pointed this out but the Orcs are supposedly trying to remain hidden yet they chopped and burned down all the trees in the area, clearly indicating some violent and destructive force has been there.
Totally with you here. The Assassin's Creed comparison also struck me immediately when I saw Numenor first. I am actually quite mad about this episode for many reasons, but by far the biggest is the death of Arondir's second companion. To me it looked like they wanted to immitate Boromir's death. This scene since I first saw it in 2001, always felt like one of the most impactful and emotional death's in any movie. Back in the day as a kid I felt the tremendous pain of every arrow that hit his body, the admiration for a supreme warrior defying his certain death to protect helpless friends. Nothing ever felt so heroic. When Merry and Pippin jumped out of their hiding place I wanted to go with them and avenge this fallen hero. And then the dialogue between him and Aragorn. I was crying like a baby and still it can catch me off guard and wet my eyes occasionally. You want to know, how a concluded redemption arc works? Watch this. And here a guy we have seen for what? 10 seconds in the beginning of the series is shot by orcs from the distance, while he's running away and anyway Arondir's reaction wants to tell me, that I should be grieving for this guy, like a did for the captain of Gondor? My reaction was. "OK so he's dead. And?" I knew nothing about this guy. Not even his fucking name. And the show wants this to be an emotional moment?
@@CounciloftheRings It is very frustrating. Even though I had the lowest expectations, I still got disappointed, because it is so dumb and boring. Salute you for being so invested in digging up all the trash there is. The sheer amount of crap is so huge, that I couldn't realize the whole load of it by watching only once. And I definitely won't give it a second try.
Has nobody noticed the warg scene. There's at least 8 orcs in the tunnel. Cuts to lead orc in the pitt turning round saying release the warg. Instantly cuts to warg in tunnel and no orcs anywhere. It's so poor it's beyond words.
If I'm being honest, your reviews are waaaay better than the show. The part that really bothered me in the show was also part of the cursed "map reveal" scene. Like why in heavens name did (a) Morgoth/Sauron have minute notes of their evil plan and (b) presuming said plan was real, why did it take Sauron and his Orcs a couple thousand years (or however long it's been since the War of Wrath in this show) to act upon said plan? The only part that got a brief point from me is the mention of Anárion. I was worried that they would completely cut him out of the show and replace him with their made up sister.
Love your reviews. I'm honestly looking forward to those more than the actual episodes themselves. Hope you keep doing them despite losing interest in the show.
Ah I'm so glad I stumbled upon your channel and reviews of this 'MASTERPIECE'... You my man are doing a God's work. You got yourself a new subscriber and a huge support, keep up the great work!
The invention of the verb "to decaravan" someone is a new lowest point in the history of language in film. That and the rest of the atrocious writing is painful to witness, especially for a show for which the (completely ignored) source material is written by a master wordsmith. This is the novel Tolkien never wrote because he never wrote this bad in his entire life.
When Galadriel jumped into the ocean and started singing“Under The Sea” it was AMAZING!!! The only nitpick, and it’s a little one is that she’s not a mermaid of color
About this Adar character: I have the worst feeling that it's going to be Finrod, "re-embodied" wrongly due to the mark Sauron carved into his skin upon his death. And thus this will serve as more melodrama for wannabe-Galadriel to slog through with all the acting finesse of an ironing board. I was fuming about all the potential atrocities they were bound to commit to my favourite of the Noldorin Princes when I learned he was going to feature in the show, but if this particular prediction turns out to be true, it'll take the cake as the vilest of the lot. And considering what they've reduced Finrod's character -- EVERYONE'S character -- to already, that is SAYING something. Varda preserve us, smh.
“The acting finesse of an ironing board” 🤣🤣🤣 although I suspect that an actual ironing board would be in a better mood than wannabe-G always is. I would love to know if the showrunners consider her to be a likeable character?
As a big LOTR and especially Silmarillion as well as Lost Tales fan I really want to love the series, but there is a big issue for a guy like me, who has basically read several times everything of Tolkien related to this Universe. Whenever I see a scene in the show, automatically the books I read open up in my mind and tell me that things a so off in this series. I just can't get away from these thoughts. It is similar, as someone would constantly tell you that 1+1=3 even though you know for sure that this does not make sense. I loved the way Numenor was depicted visually. I somehow also liked the way Elendil is portrayed (despite the canon issues), but these positive impressions got completely destroyed, when Galadriel showed up and acted in a childish and stubborn way. This is so far away from how she is portrayed in the books that I just can't stand it. It makes me so disappointed.
This may sound slightly egocentric, but I hope you end up covering every episode; your videos turn some of the absurdity in this series into something to look forward to (hard to not wake my girlfriend up during the toothpaste slo-mo, cracked me up so bad). All my thanks :)
That stupid, out of place and cringy line "the sea is always right" is a rip off from Game of Thrones' house mottos such as 'what is dead may never die' of house greyjoy, or 'hear me roar' of house Lannister. Wow such originality Amazon.
As a casual fan of LOTR, I was excited for this series. However, I didn’t make it thru episode 1 (too boring). I haven’t watched any other episodes yet and your reviews only confirm my (now) bias. Too bad, this series could of been great. As a new subscriber, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on how you would of written the series.
@@KylanHurt i wont lie, i'd listen to you guys opinions more intently.. Im a casual too, but i would of liked to of gotton your accounts on the show, for a different perspective, if nothing else.
The Sigil turning out to be a map of Mordor is on the same level as the dagger in SW pointing to the Throne Room on the ruins of the Death Star. Riveting storytelling.
When I watch reviews like yours, I feel better because with how Amazon is reacting to criticism about the show (kind of like gaslighting us fans) it makes me think others are seeing the same flaws I'm seeing and I'm not insane. I did see and connect the dots to the flaws I saw in the show. Galadriel in my opinion is the absolute worst characters and she is supposed to be the most important character of the entire show. They have written her, and the actress has played her, as a totally unlikeable person. This series is more than three hours in the can, with Galadriel on screen probably 50% of the time, and there is literally nothing in all that time that shows a likeable nuance, thought, feeling, relatability. Nothing. She is completely unlikeable. So unlikeable, I find myself rooting for Sauron against her. When your main character is just so unlikeable, it really dampens the entire show.
I did a double take when the painting came up. Like....what the hell were they thinking writing Elrond then? He is royalty, like RELATED TO FUCKING GIL-GALAD, but no! Let's make him a young idiot🤦♀️
This may sound strange, but I'm glad you have such a reserved and dignified way of speaking. so many other people reviewing this show just don't carry themselves the same way you do. you speak well and make very good points that make me feel less crazy for disliking most of the stuff happening in this blasphemous show.
Thank you for Being a Tolkein Lore Channel that is NOT Bought By Amazon Corruption of Tolkein Legacy And His Lore. Thank You and your Common Sense in seeing how Bad and corruptive the Ring of Power is. You have My Full Support.
…but this serie is not lotr. Oh, wait, the title is… that’s all. So, personnally, I give up (the second reason I give up is this show is a piece of crap).
What a clusterfuck of a timeline. Clebrimbor is alive. Barad-dur apparently isnt built yet, the rings arent done, The One Ring isnt mentioned at all but everyone should know about it at this point, Celebrían (Galadriels daughter) wasnt even mentioned, all while apparently we are in the 3200s of the second age judging by the fact that Isildur and Elendil are alive. Literally all of the prior events happened in the first 1600 years of the second age. Someone wanna bet we wont even see Sauron come to Numenor and destroy it swiftly?
Also, Galadriel is single, which is why she left Lindon for the Undying Lands without a thought of Celeborn or Celebrian. Imagine: Annatar and the Gwaith-i-Mirdain have to make the Rings of Power, Celebrimbor has to make the Elven Rings of Power, Sauron must make his One Ring to Rule Them All, then there has to be a War of the Elves and Sauron followed by the Numenorian Army coming to the rescue the Elves That will be followed by Sauron's defeat and capture and export to Numenor. There are THREE wars over 1800 years crunched into 20. They will probably make one war out of the last two that I mentioned.
Very concise and detailed review. Personally, I don't think the show even deserves a review or a score, but I guess that's kind of your job here :) I think it's funny how Guy-ladriel thinks that emoting is doing that weird twitch thing with her eyes and nose. It's off-putting and weird because that's what you see when a 5 year old is trying to show you that she can wink...by blinking. And her smile is as scary as the guy that Aragorn beheaded in Return of the King
I was underwhelmed with Numenor. Everyone keeps praising the cinematic, but I think they're average. They don't look any better than 20yr lotr. Its failed to capture the grandness and scale of these kingdoms at their peak.
It’s what Amazon does they always throw money away with their shows and use a lot of colors but thru have absolutely atrocious dialogue writing story Basically everything that makes a great show is shit
Keep up the reviews. New subscriber. I look forward to your reviews every week now. I can't bring myself to watch it but I love your synopsis and breakdown of it all. Don't get too discouraged. I'm learning a lot from you. Thank you.
Every Friday I’m looking forward to the next RoP episode… so that I can watch your review of it 😆 BTW I’m really curious about your own approach to the story 🍿
Your sacrifice of watching these for me is much appreciated... seriously I would not have your fortitude. This is such a dumpster fire of such epic proportions... Thank you for sharing your thoughts as you will continue to have my views from beginning to end of the video with zero skipping. Take care
It simply isn’t good. I can’t understand how anyone trying to champion this show could stand by these first 3 episodes and proudly defend it. Not only the poor lore minimal respect to Tolkien, but just the pathetic execution of the writing, story, dialogue, characters… everything. It’s bad, and it’s their fault.
I really enjoy your reviews so please keep giong, I'm suffering with you trough the episodes. Honestly I just watch the crap to then watch the review and know what you are talking about. And I would really like to know how someone who knows the lore would write the story. I find these "hobbits" deeply disturbing, I mean what a nice buch leaving everybody behind if they are to slow for whatever reason - not exactly a behavior that would make survival of the tribe likely....
Plenty of people are giving this show the criticism it deserves, but you are one of few who is truly dedicated to Tolkien. So many of the larger channels that make Tolkien content have completely sold out the fans so they can sucker up to Amazon and become access media.
Do they have the rights to Eru or the Valar. I thought Numenor was a pretty religious place with meneltarma. And the time compression absolutely ruins the world building. We're told the Numenorians hold disdain for the elves, but that's never explained in the show, so the Numenorians dislike the elves... Because... Knife ears?
OH MY GOD! I'm having so much fun with these reviews throughout the week, between the episodes of this horrenduos series. Thank you so much to you and all the reviewers on youtube. The dissapointment is so big but somehow experiencing so many different viewpoints of the same disaster makes me somehow feel a good vibe.
I tuned out when we seen her ice climbing with a dagger. Oh also conveniently her team decides after hundreds of years maybe a thousand years of hunting Sauron to call it. Lol and then these elite elvish warriors are helpless against a troll. What was the plan if they found Sauron? And wouldn't he be packing major heat I mean he's an original angel Maia or wtv. Who's been active for literally 30 thousand years. Loool this show has to be the worst fantasy. It's like cheap gotcha moments from a cw drama, to the tune of 700 million dollars.
First episode: the hobbits have each other. Third episode: lets have a party and remember the people we left behind ,oh your trouble making family will be at the back of the caravan in case we are attacked
Very fair review. It earned a Subscribe from me. I feel a 6/10 for music is generous. It's OK, but for a multi-many-million pounds series, comparable to a major Hollywood movie or series even, as you pointed out it just lacks something. Most the time I don't even notice it - when they do a grand entrance kind of thing like the entry to Numenor the music just lacks scale and grandeur. Compare that scene in RoP to the trilogy Argonath scene scored by Howard Shore!
the music of Heroes of Might & Magic III has still some of the best fantasy music ever composed. It just sounds like magic and fantasy and great tales trough and trough. Just listen to the town themes. Thats what you'd expect being introduced to such a place.
The music itself isn't composed badly, I actually liked all the motifs. It's the terribly clumsy editing/syncing with how they attempt to integrate it with the visuals that really drags it into the abyss. Film scoring is all about sync points, recurring themes, and underscoring complex ideas on screen. In the original trilogy, you can simply look to how the one ring's theme morphs so effortlessly into Sauron's theme music. In this show, they merely blare the appropriate motif (harfoot pipe theme, etc) each of the far too many times that they jump around. They also fail completely to use silence as an element of the scoring. Look at how FOTR has absolutely no score once the goblin/orcs burst into Balin's tomb and the big fight begins. I can't remember a single instance of silence being used for such effect in TROP so far, it's just constant background noise. All in all I think the composer did a good job, but the editing/syncing is almost as bad as the hollow empty dialogue.
Your reviews, and the works of others like you, are the only things getting me through this terrible series which is actually beginning to make me feel ill. Not only for its garbage, but for how they are trying to convince the world it is not. Garbage. But your considered review creates laughter and reminds me of the lore, which is a joy. Note also that your review and especially your planned 8 part series of how you think it should have gone - that will inspire some viewers to go and read the books, and also enjoy Tolkien's (actual) work. Where the terrible series more likely will turn people away from it. Thank you, and take care.
Are you going to upload your recaps on a specific day? I'm honestly more excited to watch your videos than the dumpster fire of a show. And I would love to be able to add you into a schedule so i can get my popcorn ready.
Your review is amazing, hilarious and very very in depth with the various ratings per segment of content. It helps to better understand where the actual flaws of the show lie. Not to mention that this was more enjoyable to watch than the actual episode. Overall for me Ep. 3 was better than 1 and 2 as I didnt fall asleep but the cringe moments were sooo many. Thankfully you pointed them all out in the video. I guess we should just watch it and not think at all...
Name thyself: Guyladriel The Barbarian Warrior... Commander of the Feminist Legions of the Northern Armies of High King Gil Galad...Killer of Men Who Helps Her, The Terror and Slayer of Orcs, Dragon Hunter, Bizarre Smiling Horse Rider, Mother of an Unknown Daughter Wife of A Dead Celeborn Husband, Teenage of a 1000 Years Old, I demand EVERYTHING and I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE, IN THIS OR IN THE NEXT LIFE!
I still haven’t finished the third episode, which I find crazy. Because I love lotr and fantasy In general, but I fell asleep the first attempt, second and third attempt I got bored and distracted and forgot it was on, and fourth attempt I put it on as background noise and still have seen the last 20-30 mins or so. Sad really a show like this should have been amazing and I would have never imagine it would be so bad that It can’t even hold my attention
and because Amazon got the filming right to this part of Middle Earth history no decent filmmaker will burn his fingers on the topic for a very long time. Who wants to to lay a bed where the last user did sh*t in and it hasn't ben cleaned since?
The fact that you can’t get through the show highlights this shows main problem, it has zero narrative drive. Doesn’t matter how flashy things are, the plot has to mean something and it has to move forward
Please keep reviewing the show. It's the only reason I will continue to watch ROP. EP 3, was truly disappointing, your honest review was enjoyable and insightful.
Everyone seems to be saying this episode was the best of the three and I don't know what they must be smoking. Maybe it was the drone CGI of Númenor and the introduction of Elendil (who actually wasn't terrible) that persuaded them. This episode was full of some of the most idiotic horseshit I've ever seen. Things that defy logic and all the laws of Gods and men (oops wrong show). The horrific weed gremlins that are supposed to be hobbits was the final straw.
I love your reviews. Best thing I watched whole week. Not looking forward to the next episode of RoP, but really looking forward to your review. So funny :D keep it up.
I thought I was going insane! I read comments saying the criticism to the show is racism or simple-mindedness. I don't mind the diversity cast or inclusion of the harfoots. But at every step of this episode I was thinking "How did no one see that? That didn't make sense? How did they get there? That was so obvious! This is so boring and nonesensical!" Hearing you say "You don't have to think!" But you said "we are not supposed to take this show serious" many times and my sanity felt restored. These reviews are the only smile this show has given me so far.
I've watched the PJ extended cuts multiple times and I'd still be enthralled knowing exactly what happens... This series lost me during episode one... But i decided to give it a shot all till the end of episode 2. Only thing that kept me going was making fun of the stupidity of it all.
Halbrand will likely become one of the Nazguls for sure. Galadriel's plotline is just so bad, and the writing of the series in general reminds of those old fashioned PS1 games which in order to move the plot forward resorted to any kind of cheap and easy discoveries for the character to figure out. But al least the gaming compensated for the bad script.
Though subjective as any movie is, you show more care in your review then the directors or actors show in their portrayal. As such I give you a 9/10. I give LOTR RoP a 1/10. For myself, at this point the show is unwatchable. I will continue watching your review. I wish you luck.
I wish somebody involved in the production would have had some balls and told them how bad this was going to be... Wait. Shippy did and he got fired.
They also didn't dare send the script to Peter Jackson. He would have told them it was garbage.
@@audreybailey5139 yup. I was making the point that trash like this gets made because corporation are infested with "yes men" and those that stand up get flayed. We are the only ones who can change this by not watching. WB is finally understanding this.
@@audreybailey5139 They were going to but never did. I'm sure he would have used it to pick up dog shit
If this show is garbage it is because has not strictly adhered to the lore not much else. Everything is superior to the House of the Dragon.
HotD has been a snooze fest barring Matt Smith, who is basically carrying the show and even he is no Peter Dinkage but ironically that show is getting 9 out of 10 reviews, 9/10 !!! LOL
Galadriel calling Elendil a "mortal" is another travesty- Galadriel, who takes after her brother Finrod, shows unusual kindliness and understanding when speaking to Men and Dwarfs. She has a genuine respect for the other Children of Illuvatar. This show cannot get one thing right about Galadriel.
She comes across as too brash, angry, anxious, unreasoning, quick to judgement, yet endowed with plot armor that makes her impervious to all serious consequences. Maybe after she's given one of the elven rings she'll calm down a bit.
she is not the Galadriel described by Tolkien
For some reason i can comm on the video but only on others comms so let me say it.
Ur so bitter and you dont want tk see good in this show. Isnit 10/10? No, far from it. But why would you trash the sigil stuff when 2 things are in play. First u never saw it coming and the the second one, she new thats the map of mordor only when she heard the story behind it. Also why would anyone wanna see how halbrand stole something if he already did it (dagger). We know hes a fcking good thief. He has money, and if u think about it for half a sec u get how he got it.
U all hating it cos u expected somethimg different. Go with this show an try to enjoy, otherwise ur just a guy who spent 7 years thinking how to get fcking subs.
Well there's a thing called "Character Development". how old are you? are you allowed to even watch RUclips?
@@mustang607 If Celebrimbor has an ounce of lore left, he would never give one of the Elvin Rings to this Galadriel
besides that this Galadriel would refuse Nenya, the ring of water as not being much of a weapon and probably wrestle Narya, the Ring of Fire out of Cirdan's hand ( or Gandalfs)
When they shouted “The sea is always right” I literally laughed out loud. It was like something from The Life of Brian
Hahaha true
Why steal a ship when she could just walk to the docks and start swimming?
🤣🤣🤣 100%
Anyone else rooting for Sauron?
All sane people at this point
I kind of wish they actually made the series about Sauron instead, it would have actually made more sense and maybe a little more interesting.
But I think people would have had issues with it, because he's a villain.
These dogshit showrunners really achieved something I thought impossible. I am rooting for Sauron.
The issue is that they want us to root for him
"This man saved us from certain death" - she told the queen. Wait a second, didn't you purposely jump into the ocean, thousands of miles from middle earth? Woman is angry and suicidal.
Yeah she knew the series was so bad she just tried to end it early 😉
Seriously, why does she need a boat to leave? Why doesn't she just jump into the water again?
@@Roon3808 Little did she know then that her plot armour was set to "infinite", though 😉
She was being optimistic
Galadriel threats to kill the man who saved her just a few moments later. Such humility
By the time Isildur was born, Galadriel was not only married to Celeborn, but also their daughter Celebrían was already almost 3000 years old!
It's like there's a team of writers who have written different plots & dialogues for each character in each episode. Then instead of the head writer reading the scripts and editing it to ensure continuity in the characters and plot, decided to just forward it to the production team and they shot the scenes.
One episode you have happy singing hobbits, next episode they are psychopaths who leave people behind, next episode we will come to know that they use dead Harfoots as compost.
Same for the sigil. In one episode, it's a mark that Sauron brands his victim with and next episode it's a map? Why TF would Sauron mark victims with his address?
Glad I'm not watching this show lol. I'm not a super Tolkien fan but as a reader and fan of fantasy and the LotR films, please don't abuse the works of great literature. If you cannot be faithful to the books to a certain degree, then don't adapt them.
yes!
For a moment there I genuinely thought you meant that the next episode we _actually_ learn that Harfoots (Harfeet?) use their dead as compost. I doubt anything would surprise me at this point.
Couldn’t have said it better myself..
Every time I think we've reached rock bottom, the Rings of Power finds a way to open up a sinkhole...
100%
It's a long to China
@@georgepatton6195 I think that they are trying to reach it though.
@@georgepatton6195 Everything bad is China lol. Convenient for American corporation Amazon to shift the blame elsewhere.
Halbrand being Sauron would be incredibly stupid.
Why is this show acting like Mordor doesn’t exist yet? It was established in 1000 SA and Barad-Dur was completed 1600 SA after the One was made.
When is this show supposed to take place, because Amazon has tossed the actual timeline of events out the window.
Slo-mo horse riding made my eyes roll so hard.
He will be one of Nazguls for sure.
@@logos4929 that would be less terrible, even though the Nazgûl and rings should have been made already at this point.
@@mrcat3493 define ‘already’ 😉
@@misiopuchatek152 Haha. What is time?
Halbrand has smithing abilities, that is no coincidence.
He being sauron would fit into this lazy amazon writing: galadriel wants to kill sauron with a vengeance, and he was so close to her but she did not notice.... wooooah what a twist!
Well, maybe this comment might help you continue to do these reviews: I am not tolkien expert, I enjoy the books and some times get lost with all the names and places. Watching your reviews of the shows helps me to correct the show and at the same time, connect with some of the places, people, items, lore that get lost in my addled brain! Basically, your reviews help me understand Tolkien's stories better. Currently slogging my way through The Silmarillion....
Glad to hear that! 🤗
If you're slogging through the Silmarilion, then try the audiobook.
I tried a couple of times to read it but couldn't wrap my brain around the insane amount of new words/names/places... The narrator of the official version does a wonderful job and sails through the difficult passages with ease and gravitas.
ha same; going through the Silmarillion for the second time and yes, it is quite dense, but beautifully written!
@Esu Miwa
Try reading it at Conversation Speed, as though you were reading aloud.
Your retention will Double and you will also get the emotion out of it. That will help you with names, as you will suddenly find yourself involved with each character.
How...you read it, will change Everything. 😉👌.
@@JackChurchill101
This should help.
Try reading it at Conversation Speed, as though you were reading aloud.
Your retention will Double and you will also get the emotion out of it. That will help you with names, as you will suddenly find yourself involved with each character.
How...you read it, will change Everything. 😉👌
Why did Sauron put a map on Finrod's body? Let me tell my enemies my plan because I'm a dumb ass?
Dumbest part in the history of 'Fan-fiction' Middle-earth
They could have easily made the mark an unknown symbol in black speech texts galadriel tried do decipher. Would make more sense.
If the show acknowledges that Elros was the first king of Numenor, and that many kings have succeeded him (Miriel mentioned her grandfather's great grandfather etc), then that paints Elrond is an even worse light. His brother established a kingdom that subsequently grew over a thousand years under his many descendants, while during that time, Elrond hasn't done anything of worth aside from being Gil-galad's speechwriter, and is not even worthy of attending a meeting of elf-lords.
remember about every male character is either a baddy or a douchebag, how else can a mediocre unlikeble female look great.
and as cringy she may have been in the promotion tour, I think Sophia "He is staying for diner" Nonvete would have made a better Galadriel.
The harfoots are psychopaths. They will leave you for dead if you fall behind, then remember you later by repeating "we will wait for you"
These animals are savages, yet their "hearts are bigger than their feet" WTF? 🤣
Yeah very disturbing
In the first episode the two villagers with the antlers warned the Harfoots would be evil, then they looked cute in the next scene and the audience laughed about their assessment. If the Harfoots desert their one people, how brutal can they be to outsiders?
I'm guessing it's the writer's hamfisted metaphor for progressives who are "moving forward" and leaving all the conservatives and supposed dum dums behind for dead unless they can somehow "catch up" with them and agree their poisoned sense of morality.
This is one of the most glaring things that I cant believe anyone in production said "hey wait maybe we should change this a bit"...but no, just have all those able-bodied hobbits just walk behind the other wagon and not help the injured family.
@@sebastianwittmeier1274 they were kind to the Gandalf stranger, so the writing is all screwed up. A broken foot will sentence you to death in their society. The next episode will showcase the harfoot thunderdome event
There is much satisfaction in hearing what I’m thinking but said by someone else 😂. Thank you my good sir and I cant wait to see your accurate version of what the show should be.
We get back to the Harfoots "and in this episode, we learn that they're all psychopaths" LOL I had the exact same reaction
Hahaha they are not very hobbit-like
I loved when Rei Galadriel used the sigil to find the map to the Sith planet in the wreckage of the Death Star...
it's also convenient it was found right at the place she jumped in the water out in nowhere, where she found the Star Destroyer wreck ....ok that didn't happen but it will.
I know your struggling to get through these episodes, so am I but I do love your take on them so I hope you carry these videos going. I am looking forward to how you would have written this series and apply the lore properly. It is a drag to get through an episode and I hope it speeds up soon, but at the moment I'm only watching them to see how screwed up they are getting it. And then to hear your view on them. Thanks for sticking with it for us all,
You're actually watching them?
I'm just watching all the reviews demolishing this shitshow.
I won't even pirate it.
Thanks! Yeah I'm mainly looking forward to make videos on how I would write season one of a Second age show :P It's very much the opposite of the Rings of Power
I more interested to watch RUclipsr video about the show than the show itself
@@sagefields If you are struggling here, do not watch the "9 out of 10" HotD show, you will need a pillow and set your alarm clock for everytime Dameon enters the scene.
I'm not watching the series anymore. I gave it 2 chances already and that was a fair chance.
Some of my issues where how the two elves got captured before Arondir? Galadriel with really no issues just being able to leave the city and visit Halbrand in the dungeons, even though she had been told to not leave the palace grounds. The hobbits eagerness to just leave people for dead because they broke their foot? An injury that will likely heal. I also didn't understand the rush of migrating, or the danger if migrating a bit slower. At least if there was some sense of urgency, leaving someone behind would make more sense.
I'm glad that prosthetic orcs are back though.
All good points. Also how TF does Hallbrand have money?!?!
@@SamuelBlackMetalRider Presumably he stole that too
Indeed, 5:54 also that wide shot of them in the pit didn't look right? Like the scale was off, also how did the elves or anyone miss the orcs vast cloth tunnel/clearing? lol
Can't wait to see Orc women... Oh, wait... That would put women in a bad light being on the dark side....
Usually, princes were regent on behalf of their fathers, uncles or kinsmen who were the actual monarchs. If her father is still alive, Miriel should be princess regent, not a queen on her own right. But something tells me that the writers thought that this would be demeaning to her. Although I think that the real problem is that they are ignorant fools who don’t even know how a monarchy works.
Why the mystery concerning her father’s appearance? Either he’s black or he married a black woman, in order to Miriel be brown (since Elros was white). Unless the writers will suggest that skin color and ethnicity are random in Middle-earth (like where parents could have a black child and vice-versa).
actually I don't care wether her father or/and her mother are black. They should have ditched the racial connections altogether and saturised the show with non-whites to such a degree that it would not even be notice if the child has the same colour as the parent or the brother the same cour of his sister.
When one needs to show a family relation one shows that family relation by acting, not by painting or make up.
But it seems this cast could not even be a convinching brother and sister even when they were that in real life.
I abandoned caring about their diversity logic since we've seen nori's parents
@@PpierrotT1 Nori's mom died, right? Isn't that her stepmom?
@@kamion53 Race does matter if you want the world to be consistent. There is a reason why some people would have different facial structure and skin color. The world makes no sense without proper lineage and a goddamn good explanation to why all these races have mixed together, if 70 percent of your society is white, yeah, you ain't gonna have any dark person be king by chance.
@@Ryuuken24 ".... if 70 percent of your society is white, yeah, you ain't gonna have any dark person be king by chance...... "
then make sure that the society in your movie with a message is not 70% white, but as diverse as a saturday market in Camden.
Games of Throne did have a predominant white cast for the leading characters, but when you looked at the crowd of the city of Kings Landing you could not pinpoint down what region of the world it was, that population was pretty diverse.
Amazon made a lot of fuss about being woke and non-racist but prooved to be the opposite by placing just a few non-whites at strategic places, but it did not have the guts to cast a black or asian actress as Galadriel. What now stands out as a sour thumb is how NOT-diverse the cast is.
With my rant now over, I have my points for this video. Well presented and sound reasoning 10/10. Accurate use of Lore and explanations for assessments of the episode 10/10. Humor and use of stills to explain the episode 10/10. Ability to suffer through one of the worst shows every produced 20/20. I love the content and presentation. I have even started to read the stories based on how interesting and rich you have made it sound. Keep up the great work!!
Glad you liked it! 😁
I always pictured Nùmenor more Arthurian, like Camelot or Avalon. This looks like Mykonos (White and Blue), and the queen and guards look Babylonian darker skin with Blue and Gold outfit. I guess they tried to run with the Atlantis theme and forgot this is supposed to be a AngloSaxon-esque golden age.
This all day!! I remember they showed a scene from Numenor and there was a guy in the crowd that looked like he was wearing a Thobe (middle eastern garb for men) a chin beard and a Fez. There was a whole Lord of the rings source book that came out with the first movie. They had a bunch of pages dealing with the Numenoreans. Entire descriptions of the people. The Culture and the Military. Yeah nothing about what they have on screen even looks like it would be Anglo Saxon.
@@Sassssky i think it would be cool with a romano atlantian aesthetic
I assumed they were channelling Braavos from GoT
The Decendents of Elros are not Black.and to protray them so is simply Deliberate Insult.
@@mortdeath1674 totally. Pure GoT rip-off, 0% LOTR
All in all i found this episode at least less boring. However it's becoming increasingly hard not to skip parts about the hobbits - they're just so irritating. And the "the sea is always right" - seems someone was forcing "the night is dark and full of terrors" in here. So much bad writing.
... and winter is coming...
Agreed on the episode being not as boring as previous ones but all « hobbits » parts are unbearable & soooooo useless
"What is dead may never die."
I actually cringed when I heard that line 😫
@@brentf6747 that show is in the process of redefining CRINGE.
I'm also here for the lore, so I'm grateful if you continue doing these. I'm a long-time fan of Tolkien but I can't remember everything so your videos are helpful and interesting. I can't stand the show either and I'm so sad what they've done with Galadriel.
Glad you like them! The struggle continues!
The Numenoreans might as well say “what is dead may never die” and worship the drowned God
Which actually makes for a motto with more sense.
I thought the same thing. The writers are trying the GOT this show.
@@johnw8578 also a bit of Potter in there with the Dark Mark-Sigil shit 🤦♂️
The amount of dummies in YT comments who are obsessed with "LOVECRAFTIAN STUFF IN TOLKIEN'S WORKS!" I am sure normies would love that....
I'm really disappointed with how Numenor looks. They nailed the esthetic of a antiquity/medieval city. It really looks like an ancient and busy capital city should look. The thing is, Numenor shouldn't look like that. It should look absolutely perfect, like it was built the day before, with impeccable streets and immaculate buildings.
Also the Numenorians don't look right. They should all be tall and physically very fit. Here they just look like normal humans.
Edit: another thing; I just realized that in the show it's been only about a week since Galadriel came back to Lindon. In one week she made more progress in her hunt of Sauron than in literal hundreds of years. Just because she decided to jump from her ship in the middle of the sea...
Seriously. They look no different from the drunken poor in the Southlands do. I can forgive the beards if they all at least looked like Elendil, even though that still wouldn’t be accurate. Shit, Elendil and Isildur should be like 7-8 feet tall
Yep, I've been trying to visualise how Numenor should look, and I've got one idea: a cross between the MCU Asgard and movie versions of Atlantis (not fancy technology I mean, but everything shiny and new) - the mistake they made was to look at Minas Tirith in the Jackson movies and say ok, that's Numenor. What they don't realise is that Tolkien is writing this story from a late Medieval mindset, that things which came before are better than now, so Numenor should have been ten times better than anything in Gondor of the late Third Age.
And you're right about the Numenorians not looking right - they should also be the pinnacle of human perfection, because they were! I'm wondering if the showrunners read ANY Tolkien because that was the whole issue of Numenor: that they were strong and beautiful and very long-lived for humans, but that wasn't enough for them. They wanted to be immortal like the Elves and go to Valinor - they were never satisfied.
Gotta condense that timeline
The people of Numenor looks like they were plucked from a 2022 New York city street. You got asians, blacks, arabs and indians. Immersion destroyed.
If Sauron Halbrand is in Numenor and is corrupting them now, then the rings of power should have been made 1762 years ago, Eregion is destroyed Khazad dum is shut and Rivendell is built.
I am a simple depressed Rohirrim, hence i click a like and ride away.
Halbrand being able to single-handedly wipe the floor with the group of Numenorian guildsmen was so cringy too me. Numenorians are elevated men blessed by their proximity and original favor of the Valar. This was the same race who landed in Middle Earth and by their very show of strength and greatness, made Sauron run with his skirt pulled up, waving the white flag as he went.... but Halbrand was able to play his favorite scene from "Taken" with them.
He's a bloody Sauron, what do you expect?
Oh, and no, that's no a theory, that's an actual leak.
@@OverLorD768 I hope its a fake leak because hes supposed to come under the guise of an elf.
@@jagatech9345 and Galadries supposed to be a wise queen and not a raging Karen with a sword. And Ar Pharason, Elendil and Tar-Míriel are supposed to be 1500 years after the forging of the Rings. And Finrod supposed to be a chad, and to die in a different time under a different circumstances.
Isn't it obvious yet that this whole show is just one huge fanfiction?
@@OverLorD768 I know man, goes to show that they dont care about the source material unless its comfortable enough for them to do whatever fan fiction they have going on in their heads. It is very confusing and frustrating when you know the actual timeline. When I saw Elendil I was horrified at their level of not giving a fucx that they just sqashed thousand of years of events at the same time.
@@OverLorD768 this show does not have a timeline. It's all one big wormhole where anyone and everyone can live in any time and place.
0:00 - "Hello friends and foes of Middle Earth, . . ."
Before *Rings of Power* I didn't believe any foes of Middle Earth existed. Thanks Amazon.
The background scenery was beyond superb, everything else, the acting, the plot, the character development, not so much. Honestly, I think Clark should have played the Queen of Numenor, and someone else should have played the leading role of Galadriel.
@Foundry Cards Well, I thought Numenor at least was great. The rest, was average.
On the issue of the map-sigil, why should the victims of Sauron be branded with the map? And if the original Galadriel got from the lore master was by a human spy, why TF it is written in the "dark language
?"
Excellent point!
fair
great point! its so stupid....
If that's the logo of Sauron it makes sense and Saurons Logo is based on landmarks which also makes sense is very common in medieval times. That they did not discover it earlier, especially since that is the place where the former Morgoth followers live, is another topic.
0:26 26 seconds and I am already more interested in this review than I was after watching 3 hours of the show 🤣
Hahha glad you appreciate the humour added XD
Yes! Same over here. 😂😅😁
Me too! Subscribed.
Dont mind me.. im just gonna watch some clips of Cate’s Galadriel and Lee Pace’s Thranduil to remind me how elves should act and look like..
and because its sunday im gonna watch sir Ian’s Gandalf quotes to wash my ears with that “the Sea is always right”
Okay, nobody has pointed this out but the Orcs are supposedly trying to remain hidden yet they chopped and burned down all the trees in the area, clearly indicating some violent and destructive force has been there.
Totally with you here. The Assassin's Creed comparison also struck me immediately when I saw Numenor first. I am actually quite mad about this episode for many reasons, but by far the biggest is the death of Arondir's second companion. To me it looked like they wanted to immitate Boromir's death. This scene since I first saw it in 2001, always felt like one of the most impactful and emotional death's in any movie. Back in the day as a kid I felt the tremendous pain of every arrow that hit his body, the admiration for a supreme warrior defying his certain death to protect helpless friends. Nothing ever felt so heroic. When Merry and Pippin jumped out of their hiding place I wanted to go with them and avenge this fallen hero. And then the dialogue between him and Aragorn. I was crying like a baby and still it can catch me off guard and wet my eyes occasionally. You want to know, how a concluded redemption arc works? Watch this.
And here a guy we have seen for what? 10 seconds in the beginning of the series is shot by orcs from the distance, while he's running away and anyway Arondir's reaction wants to tell me, that I should be grieving for this guy, like a did for the captain of Gondor? My reaction was. "OK so he's dead. And?" I knew nothing about this guy. Not even his fucking name. And the show wants this to be an emotional moment?
Yeah it's just very bad writing
@@CounciloftheRings It is very frustrating. Even though I had the lowest expectations, I still got disappointed, because it is so dumb and boring.
Salute you for being so invested in digging up all the trash there is. The sheer amount of crap is so huge, that I couldn't realize the whole load of it by watching only once. And I definitely won't give it a second try.
Has nobody noticed the warg scene. There's at least 8 orcs in the tunnel. Cuts to lead orc in the pitt turning round saying release the warg. Instantly cuts to warg in tunnel and no orcs anywhere. It's so poor it's beyond words.
Man, I just love the brutal honesty of the introduction to your videos. Tak.
If I'm being honest, your reviews are waaaay better than the show.
The part that really bothered me in the show was also part of the cursed "map reveal" scene. Like why in heavens name did (a) Morgoth/Sauron have minute notes of their evil plan and (b) presuming said plan was real, why did it take Sauron and his Orcs a couple thousand years (or however long it's been since the War of Wrath in this show) to act upon said plan?
The only part that got a brief point from me is the mention of Anárion. I was worried that they would completely cut him out of the show and replace him with their made up sister.
Love your reviews. I'm honestly looking forward to those more than the actual episodes themselves. Hope you keep doing them despite losing interest in the show.
Ah I'm so glad I stumbled upon your channel and reviews of this 'MASTERPIECE'...
You my man are doing a God's work.
You got yourself a new subscriber and a huge support, keep up the great work!
Glad you like the reviews! And welcome to the Council! 🤗🧙♂️
The invention of the verb "to decaravan" someone is a new lowest point in the history of language in film. That and the rest of the atrocious writing is painful to witness, especially for a show for which the (completely ignored) source material is written by a master wordsmith. This is the novel Tolkien never wrote because he never wrote this bad in his entire life.
When Galadriel jumped into the ocean and started singing“Under The Sea” it was AMAZING!!! The only nitpick, and it’s a little one is that she’s not a mermaid of color
Lmao
About this Adar character: I have the worst feeling that it's going to be Finrod, "re-embodied" wrongly due to the mark Sauron carved into his skin upon his death. And thus this will serve as more melodrama for wannabe-Galadriel to slog through with all the acting finesse of an ironing board. I was fuming about all the potential atrocities they were bound to commit to my favourite of the Noldorin Princes when I learned he was going to feature in the show, but if this particular prediction turns out to be true, it'll take the cake as the vilest of the lot. And considering what they've reduced Finrod's character -- EVERYONE'S character -- to already, that is SAYING something. Varda preserve us, smh.
“The acting finesse of an ironing board” 🤣🤣🤣 although I suspect that an actual ironing board would be in a better mood than wannabe-G always is. I would love to know if the showrunners consider her to be a likeable character?
Zombie Finrod
he can hardly smell more nasty then his baby sister.
No, just no, now I scared as fuck
"THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT" God I cringe so hard. That is like middle school level writing.
As a big LOTR and especially Silmarillion as well as Lost Tales fan I really want to love the series, but there is a big issue for a guy like me, who has basically read several times everything of Tolkien related to this Universe. Whenever I see a scene in the show, automatically the books I read open up in my mind and tell me that things a so off in this series. I just can't get away from these thoughts. It is similar, as someone would constantly tell you that 1+1=3 even though you know for sure that this does not make sense.
I loved the way Numenor was depicted visually. I somehow also liked the way Elendil is portrayed (despite the canon issues), but these positive impressions got completely destroyed, when Galadriel showed up and acted in a childish and stubborn way. This is so far away from how she is portrayed in the books that I just can't stand it. It makes me so disappointed.
This may sound slightly egocentric, but I hope you end up covering every episode; your videos turn some of the absurdity in this series into something to look forward to (hard to not wake my girlfriend up during the toothpaste slo-mo, cracked me up so bad). All my thanks :)
That stupid, out of place and cringy line "the sea is always right" is a rip off from Game of Thrones' house mottos such as 'what is dead may never die' of house greyjoy, or 'hear me roar' of house Lannister.
Wow such originality Amazon.
Don’t expect originality from a company that stole it’s own name 😂
As a casual fan of LOTR, I was excited for this series. However, I didn’t make it thru episode 1 (too boring). I haven’t watched any other episodes yet and your reviews only confirm my (now) bias. Too bad, this series could of been great. As a new subscriber, I look forward to hearing your thoughts on how you would of written the series.
I’m also a casual LOTR fan and I was barely able to finish the last episode. It’s bad ☹️
@@KylanHurt i wont lie, i'd listen to you guys opinions more intently.. Im a casual too, but i would of liked to of gotton your accounts on the show, for a different perspective, if nothing else.
The more I see images of this, the more I want to throw up
I’m really looking forward to your take on how someone who loves the lore should of written it.
The Sigil turning out to be a map of Mordor is on the same level as the dagger in SW pointing to the Throne Room on the ruins of the Death Star. Riveting storytelling.
I'll bet that's where they got the idea.
Or “the secret is to race backwards!”
Queen Miriel of Numenor: She’s fairer than silver or ivory and pearls..
Writers: “i miss the part where that’s my problem”
Writers: "And I took that personally"
I just want to thank you for not adding racism to your vitriol.
No sarcasm
When I watch reviews like yours, I feel better because with how Amazon is reacting to criticism about the show (kind of like gaslighting us fans) it makes me think others are seeing the same flaws I'm seeing and I'm not insane. I did see and connect the dots to the flaws I saw in the show. Galadriel in my opinion is the absolute worst characters and she is supposed to be the most important character of the entire show. They have written her, and the actress has played her, as a totally unlikeable person. This series is more than three hours in the can, with Galadriel on screen probably 50% of the time, and there is literally nothing in all that time that shows a likeable nuance, thought, feeling, relatability. Nothing. She is completely unlikeable. So unlikeable, I find myself rooting for Sauron against her. When your main character is just so unlikeable, it really dampens the entire show.
The 5 minute up close slow motion scene of Galadries face as she was riding the horse on the beach made me feel strange ill at ease.
I did a double take when the painting came up. Like....what the hell were they thinking writing Elrond then? He is royalty, like RELATED TO FUCKING GIL-GALAD, but no! Let's make him a young idiot🤦♀️
This may sound strange, but I'm glad you have such a reserved and dignified way of speaking. so many other people reviewing this show just don't carry themselves the same way you do. you speak well and make very good points that make me feel less crazy for disliking most of the stuff happening in this blasphemous show.
Thanks 😁
The Numenorean outdoor sets and costumes look like they come from a bad Bible movie.
Thank you for Being a Tolkein Lore Channel that is NOT Bought By Amazon Corruption of Tolkein Legacy And His Lore. Thank You and your Common Sense in seeing how Bad and corruptive the Ring of Power is. You have My Full Support.
You are the second reviewer I’ve been listening to who is thinking about giving up on the series.
and he's a lotr channel...
Who's the other one? just out of curiosity?
…but this serie is not lotr. Oh, wait, the title is… that’s all.
So, personnally, I give up (the second reason I give up is this show is a piece of crap).
@@CounciloftheRings he doesn’t focus on pop-culture but Sean Fitzgerald of @actualjusticewarrior is not sure if he will watch any more of the show.
What a clusterfuck of a timeline.
Clebrimbor is alive. Barad-dur apparently isnt built yet, the rings arent done, The One Ring isnt mentioned at all but everyone should know about it at this point, Celebrían (Galadriels daughter) wasnt even mentioned, all while apparently we are in the 3200s of the second age judging by the fact that Isildur and Elendil are alive. Literally all of the prior events happened in the first 1600 years of the second age. Someone wanna bet we wont even see Sauron come to Numenor and destroy it swiftly?
Yes! Timeline is butchered
Also, Galadriel is single, which is why she left Lindon for the Undying Lands without a thought of Celeborn or Celebrian. Imagine: Annatar and the Gwaith-i-Mirdain have to make the Rings of Power, Celebrimbor has to make the Elven Rings of Power, Sauron must make his One Ring to Rule Them All, then there has to be a War of the Elves and Sauron followed by the Numenorian Army coming to the rescue the Elves That will be followed by Sauron's defeat and capture and export to Numenor. There are THREE wars over 1800 years crunched into 20. They will probably make one war out of the last two that I mentioned.
An abomination of epic proportions - this show should never have been made (by amazon)
It is a sign of the times. I weep for the Zoomers as good writing is dying.
Very concise and detailed review. Personally, I don't think the show even deserves a review or a score, but I guess that's kind of your job here :) I think it's funny how Guy-ladriel thinks that emoting is doing that weird twitch thing with her eyes and nose. It's off-putting and weird because that's what you see when a 5 year old is trying to show you that she can wink...by blinking. And her smile is as scary as the guy that Aragorn beheaded in Return of the King
I was underwhelmed with Numenor. Everyone keeps praising the cinematic, but I think they're average. They don't look any better than 20yr lotr. Its failed to capture the grandness and scale of these kingdoms at their peak.
The writing sucks, which is why it's not dragging you in. If it was good the locations would feel exciting and majestic
It’s what Amazon does they always throw money away with their shows and use a lot of colors but thru have absolutely atrocious dialogue writing story Basically everything that makes a great show is shit
Keep up the reviews. New subscriber. I look forward to your reviews every week now. I can't bring myself to watch it but I love your synopsis and breakdown of it all. Don't get too discouraged. I'm learning a lot from you. Thank you.
Glad to hear that! And welcome 🤗
Every Friday I’m looking forward to the next RoP episode… so that I can watch your review of it 😆
BTW I’m really curious about your own approach to the story 🍿
Hahaha! Yeah It’s probably not hard to make it more interesting than the Rings of Power 😆
Your sacrifice of watching these for me is much appreciated... seriously I would not have your fortitude. This is such a dumpster fire of such epic proportions... Thank you for sharing your thoughts as you will continue to have my views from beginning to end of the video with zero skipping. Take care
My question is why did Finrod have a map of Mordor placed on him???
😂😂😂
Sauron didn't have any wifi to show Google Maps so he had to draw a map somewhere XD
It simply isn’t good. I can’t understand how anyone trying to champion this show could stand by these first 3 episodes and proudly defend it.
Not only the poor lore minimal respect to Tolkien, but just the pathetic execution of the writing, story, dialogue, characters… everything. It’s bad, and it’s their fault.
I really enjoy your reviews so please keep giong, I'm suffering with you trough the episodes. Honestly I just watch the crap to then watch the review and know what you are talking about.
And I would really like to know how someone who knows the lore would write the story.
I find these "hobbits" deeply disturbing, I mean what a nice buch leaving everybody behind if they are to slow for whatever reason - not exactly a behavior that would make survival of the tribe likely....
Plenty of people are giving this show the criticism it deserves, but you are one of few who is truly dedicated to Tolkien. So many of the larger channels that make Tolkien content have completely sold out the fans so they can sucker up to Amazon and become access media.
Do they have the rights to Eru or the Valar. I thought Numenor was a pretty religious place with meneltarma. And the time compression absolutely ruins the world building. We're told the Numenorians hold disdain for the elves, but that's never explained in the show, so the Numenorians dislike the elves... Because... Knife ears?
Dont worry many things will be solved with the big purge that this show implies :D
Don't you heard the man, you don't have the right to think while watching the show
OH MY GOD! I'm having so much fun with these reviews throughout the week, between the episodes of this horrenduos series. Thank you so much to you and all the reviewers on youtube. The dissapointment is so big but somehow experiencing so many different viewpoints of the same disaster makes me somehow feel a good vibe.
THIS! 🔥👌🏼
The rings of power: ..and In its awefullness binds us...
@@MrSimonwara it truly does! What a poetic statement ! I shall quote you on that, my friend!
I tuned out when we seen her ice climbing with a dagger. Oh also conveniently her team decides after hundreds of years maybe a thousand years of hunting Sauron to call it. Lol and then these elite elvish warriors are helpless against a troll. What was the plan if they found Sauron? And wouldn't he be packing major heat I mean he's an original angel Maia or wtv. Who's been active for literally 30 thousand years. Loool this show has to be the worst fantasy. It's like cheap gotcha moments from a cw drama, to the tune of 700 million dollars.
First episode: the hobbits have each other.
Third episode: lets have a party and remember the people we left behind ,oh your trouble making family will be at the back of the caravan in case we are attacked
Very fair review. It earned a Subscribe from me. I feel a 6/10 for music is generous. It's OK, but for a multi-many-million pounds series, comparable to a major Hollywood movie or series even, as you pointed out it just lacks something. Most the time I don't even notice it - when they do a grand entrance kind of thing like the entry to Numenor the music just lacks scale and grandeur. Compare that scene in RoP to the trilogy Argonath scene scored by Howard Shore!
The sad thing is Howard Shore is involved with this
the music of Heroes of Might & Magic III has still some of the best fantasy music ever composed. It just sounds like magic and fantasy and great tales trough and trough.
Just listen to the town themes. Thats what you'd expect being introduced to such a place.
The music itself isn't composed badly, I actually liked all the motifs. It's the terribly clumsy editing/syncing with how they attempt to integrate it with the visuals that really drags it into the abyss. Film scoring is all about sync points, recurring themes, and underscoring complex ideas on screen. In the original trilogy, you can simply look to how the one ring's theme morphs so effortlessly into Sauron's theme music. In this show, they merely blare the appropriate motif (harfoot pipe theme, etc) each of the far too many times that they jump around. They also fail completely to use silence as an element of the scoring. Look at how FOTR has absolutely no score once the goblin/orcs burst into Balin's tomb and the big fight begins. I can't remember a single instance of silence being used for such effect in TROP so far, it's just constant background noise.
All in all I think the composer did a good job, but the editing/syncing is almost as bad as the hollow empty dialogue.
@@CounciloftheRings But only for the titles music right?
Your reviews, and the works of others like you, are the only things getting me through this terrible series which is actually beginning to make me feel ill. Not only for its garbage, but for how they are trying to convince the world it is not. Garbage. But your considered review creates laughter and reminds me of the lore, which is a joy. Note also that your review and especially your planned 8 part series of how you think it should have gone - that will inspire some viewers to go and read the books, and also enjoy Tolkien's (actual) work. Where the terrible series more likely will turn people away from it. Thank you, and take care.
Oddly Galadriel introducing herself in the Numenorean court didn't remind me of GoT.
It reminded me of Maximus introducing himself in Gladiator 😂😂😂
Commander of the Felix Legions
It was the northern army part
The chain that he grabbed that was connected to the worg was by his feet the WHOLE time...
Just imagine Galadriel hooking up with Halbrand/Sauron. We would finally have a lovestory that is worse than Twilight.
True
Hmm. It _is_ hard.
Fëanor x Morgoth? -x Galadriel x Sauron foursome-
I feel sick.
Are you going to upload your recaps on a specific day? I'm honestly more excited to watch your videos than the dumpster fire of a show. And I would love to be able to add you into a schedule so i can get my popcorn ready.
I’d say between late Saturday (after 18:00 CEST) and Sunday. I’m just speed running as fast as I can to get them done 😁
Your review is amazing, hilarious and very very in depth with the various ratings per segment of content. It helps to better understand where the actual flaws of the show lie. Not to mention that this was more enjoyable to watch than the actual episode.
Overall for me Ep. 3 was better than 1 and 2 as I didnt fall asleep but the cringe moments were sooo many. Thankfully you pointed them all out in the video.
I guess we should just watch it and not think at all...
Name thyself:
Guyladriel The Barbarian Warrior... Commander of the Feminist Legions of the Northern Armies of High King Gil Galad...Killer of Men Who Helps Her, The Terror and Slayer of Orcs, Dragon Hunter, Bizarre Smiling Horse Rider, Mother of an Unknown Daughter Wife of A Dead Celeborn Husband, Teenage of a 1000 Years Old, I demand EVERYTHING and I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE, IN THIS OR IN THE NEXT LIFE!
I still haven’t finished the third episode, which I find crazy. Because I love lotr and fantasy In general, but I fell asleep the first attempt, second and third attempt I got bored and distracted and forgot it was on, and fourth attempt I put it on as background noise and still have seen the last 20-30 mins or so. Sad really a show like this should have been amazing and I would have never imagine it would be so bad that It can’t even hold my attention
and because Amazon got the filming right to this part of Middle Earth history no decent filmmaker will burn his fingers on the topic for a very long time.
Who wants to to lay a bed where the last user did sh*t in and it hasn't ben cleaned since?
The fact that you can’t get through the show highlights this shows main problem, it has zero narrative drive. Doesn’t matter how flashy things are, the plot has to mean something and it has to move forward
Please keep reviewing the show. It's the only reason I will continue to watch ROP. EP 3, was truly disappointing, your honest review was enjoyable and insightful.
Everyone seems to be saying this episode was the best of the three and I don't know what they must be smoking. Maybe it was the drone CGI of Númenor and the introduction of Elendil (who actually wasn't terrible) that persuaded them. This episode was full of some of the most idiotic horseshit I've ever seen. Things that defy logic and all the laws of Gods and men (oops wrong show). The horrific weed gremlins that are supposed to be hobbits was the final straw.
Thank you for these videos, it's nice to find a channel that talks some sense on this subject.
Thanks for your honesty, and for suffering through this awful show so that we don't have to!
the whole thing from "a radish with wings" to the wrong image for the Warg to the slave elf killing an orc with a stick. Hehe
Thank you for these videos, as they allow me to satisfy my morbid curiosity about the show without having to watch it
I love your reviews. Best thing I watched whole week. Not looking forward to the next episode of RoP, but really looking forward to your review. So funny :D keep it up.
Glad you liked it! 😁
Lol when you find yourself actually more excited for these reviews than the actual episodes
I thought I was going insane! I read comments saying the criticism to the show is racism or simple-mindedness. I don't mind the diversity cast or inclusion of the harfoots. But at every step of this episode I was thinking "How did no one see that? That didn't make sense? How did they get there? That was so obvious! This is so boring and nonesensical!" Hearing you say "You don't have to think!" But you said "we are not supposed to take this show serious" many times and my sanity felt restored. These reviews are the only smile this show has given me so far.
I've watched the PJ extended cuts multiple times and I'd still be enthralled knowing exactly what happens...
This series lost me during episode one... But i decided to give it a shot all till the end of episode 2. Only thing that kept me going was making fun of the stupidity of it all.
My daughters and i ended up watching the whole 5th season of cobra kai this weekend…we totally forgot about rings of power. That tells me a lot
indeed
Halbrand will likely become one of the Nazguls for sure. Galadriel's plotline is just so bad, and the writing of the series in general reminds of those old fashioned PS1 games which in order to move the plot forward resorted to any kind of cheap and easy discoveries for the character to figure out. But al least the gaming compensated for the bad script.
Yeah if Halbrand isn't Sauron he is likely The Witch-king
Im still wondering why Elindil and Isildur are even living during this time. They still have not let us know what time it is.
11:05 take a peek at the scene when she steals the dagger from her brother's corpse. Isn't that sigil placed horizontally? 🤣
Brightest of the elves...
Good point!
I'm now looking forward to your reviews more than each episode. 5 stars my friend.
Though subjective as any movie is, you show more care in your review then the directors or actors show in their portrayal. As such I give you a 9/10. I give LOTR RoP a 1/10. For myself, at this point the show is unwatchable. I will continue watching your review. I wish you luck.