I think the psychotic harfoots deserve a mention. In one scene she is suggesting they remove the wheels and strand a family, the next scene she's smiling at them. They are way more terrifying than the orcs so far!
Sooo an elf and a balrog were fighting near a tree with a silmaril in it…it got struck by lightning and the bolt went through the silmaril and into the ground, creating mithril…which the elves now need so they don’t die… …Wait, what?! I laughed out loud when I heard this, it’s just so ridiculous. The writers really don’t understand fundamental things about the world Tolkien created. It has become laughably bad.
To be fair, the idea of how Mithril was created, was a cool idea for a generic fairy tale / fantasy story. But as it claims to be an LotR Adaption, I have nothing more to add than what you just said.
@@Maryondo Well, and if we care about the lore (And we should, because Tolkien is the one who created the sandbox we’re playing in), the unfinished tales says there was mithril in Numenor as well. So are we to now believe this balrog, silmaril, lighting combo happened twice? Regardless of what they have rights to use, they should know what lore exist so the audience doesn’t need to continually suspend disbelief. It’s just becoming silly at this point and I can feel myself shifting from frustration to just apathy.
You missed the best part: the scene where Isildur gets punched by his friend is the same reused set where Halbrand fights the dudes before. Billion dollar production right there.
@@SailorDoggo Its funny how the number always goes down after each episode comes out. At the start amazon proudly said its a 1 billion dollar show, then it came out with the reviews, it became a 1 billion dollar 5 seasons, now they are saying it 18 million an episode. They are in dmg control mode.
If Galadriel accidentally slipped on a banana and cracked her melon; causing her to be in a coma until the end of the season... I'm up for that plot twist.
I have to give the show some credit. The reviews I've watched because of it have been very entertaining and funny AF. Billion Dollar Dumpster Fire 10/10
As of now, over 30% of user scores for this travesty on IMDb are 10/10, and the shill media has still said NOTHING about that sort of "review bombing". And over half of user scores are 8/10 and above, with little-to-no justification.
This is very true, and very annoying, but to be fair, PJ’s film made a similar mistake when it seemed to imply that Narsil was reforged by simply hammering the pieces back together. Not quite as egregious, maybe.
I give ROP 5 stars because it's so versatile . I can watch it, play games on my phone, check facebook, browse the news , go make myself a coffee and I won't have missed anything important. Amazon understands that people have busy lives and has designed a show for life in 2022 and is thus catering to our needs. How about Halbrands guild badge? How must have worked years to earn that after being told he couldn't work at the forge? Amazon: Oh you must have missed that part while you making your coffee.
lmfao, each episode feels like slightly expanded "previously on Rings of Power.....", could probably just watch the season finale only and you would not have missed much
The uncredited actors at the supper table with Durin and Elrond and Gil-Galad were Amazon call center employees who won an incentive for selling the most delivery insurance.
Galadriel shouldn’t have even bothered asking for the support of Numenor. I mean she could have just swam to Middle Earth and when in land destroy Adar and his army in a 10 second Ice Troll Kill style manner.
Yes but then she wouldn't have returned with the vast throngs of Summer-born Numenorean volunteers packed aboard those three sailing dinghies - surely even Sauron at the peak of his powers would feel the icy fingers of fear creeping up his spine at the thought of this horde of vanquishers descending upon his long prepared and constructed defences; the many leagues crossing the wide stormy oceans, followed by the relentless gallops down through to the Southlands, sustained only by what they can forage, will surely be no impediment to such paragons of valour, amirite?
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 if it was Tolkien's work, then yes. Numenorians are supposed to be incredibly powerful compared to normal humans. In this show, they're just chumps.
I have to agree with the -1 Lore score. The show has reached the point where it is outright hostile to the Lore. This episode actually started out a little better than the others but then crashed and burned hard.
If it's that bad, why are people still watching it?! They don't care if you like it or hatewatch it. As long as they get the eyeballs on it and the money, they win. Stop supporting this stuff!
@@Yesica1993 You don't have to watch it on Amazon. I'm not giving them any view counts for my viewership. I'm rogue watching elsewhere on the internet just to be able to say "I watched it" so I can have an informed debate. I know lots of people, who out of principle, are not watching it on Amazon for this very reason.
You know, after this series wraps up, I would really love to see you goung through the six Peter Jackson films, plus fan films like Born of Hope and The Hunt for Gollum, and break down the aspects of the lore that were represented well, or in some cases poorly. After a string of low-scoring TV episodes, it'd be nice to watch something of quality related to Middle-earth.
@@CounciloftheRings Yes, I have a big soft spot for it, especially for how it depicts the Dunedain and the Sons of Elrond. As for The Hobbit films, if the prospect of the extended trilogy is too much I do not blame you - there are fan edits out there (like the excellent one by Chris Hartwell) that trim it down to something more presentable.
I agree and isn’t it absolutely incredible that fans on a low budget managed to create something a zillion times more accurate and watchable than Amazon‘s abomination?
The Mithril plotline is absurd, has no connection to the lore at all, was totally made up and for no reasons. Gil Galad is a terrible character when he could and should be on the same level as Aragorn, as his character in the lord is amazing, Galadriel is as insufferable as always, now being also the arrogant cocky fencing instructor, Isildur is an impulsive child and his sister is useless. I'm done with this show.
they're really trying to show that LOOK WE'RE LIKE GAME OF THRONES - EVERYBODY IS SCHEMING AND HAS THEIR OWN AGENDA !!!!111 - which on its own is a huge betrayal of Tolkien's works
The one thing that can possibly save this show at this point: In the final episode of season 1, it is revealed that this was all Sauron telling the story, and a voiceover comes in to state: And now we will let you know what really happened.
The only thing that can actually save this show is to edit one of the Monty Python actors, walking in at the beginning of the show, and saying, bombastically: "And now for something completely different..." Then we can all act as if this entire show was nothing more than a hilarious spoof of Tolkien. And we can all have a good laugh about all of its' "wrongness." That's about the only thing that can conjure some value out of this show, at this point.
Or, series two starts with a young Galadriel waking from a very bad nightmare (and realises she doesn't want to spend her remaining millennia in middle earth with the unresolved trauma of some boys throwing rocks at her paper boat).
With twice the money spent as well. It's $60 million per episode (total of $360 mil), compared to about $90 million for each of the Peter Jackson movies (total of $180 mil). Even if you adjust for inflation, it's still super bad lol 😂
I had it with this show. Im thinking of cancelling my Amazon Prime account now. The only reason why I haven't is because of the free shipping. This show is beyond repair. This show has nothing to do with middle earth. I still can't get over the fact about Mithril and how the Elves need it to survive. That is absolute bullcrap. I cheering on all the Orcs to kill off all the elves, Numemorians and the humans - especially Galadriel. That way they will stop making a joke of Tolkien's work. The only good thing in this show is the Dwarves. That's because its true to the nature of LotR. But the Mithril side story is beyond dumb.
They actually invited him because they knew he is a dwarf-fucker and will suggests them and that he also has a personal bootycall for Durin to get them inside I guess
Well it hardly required a pointy-eared Einstein to come to the conclusion that if you want someone who is good at quarrying, mining, masonry, construction, forge-building etc, then the Dwarves would be the ones at the top of your list. In fact the biggest problem with the deceit is that it beggars belief that this would not have occurred to Kelly Bimb Rawr. He should just have said to Elrond "I know you and Durin are old pals, can you ask him to help us out?"
If the plan was to get all the mithril, then that raises three questions. 1. How did the Elves know about the mithril, when the Dwarves has a secret door put in to the mine so as to keep its mining a secret? 2. Why is Celebrimbor supervising the construction of a forge, being built by Dwarves, that will not help them get to the mithril? 3. If mithril is required to keep the Elves alive, then why did they not take Frodo's mithril shirt in LotR, and melt it down? Did they just "get better"?
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Elves are extremely competent builders and smiths too. That whole plot point about needing teh dwarves is stupid. Especially considering they just declared there to be no threat; what are all the elves doing? Must be extremely lazy and certainly won't be taking anyones jobs.
@@Hedgehog1039 It's a question of manpower (elfpower?) - as Kelly Bimbo said, they simply don't have enough Elven builders the complete the project on time.
I’m shocked to see many Tolkien fans still defending this series. I don’t know why they are so sold on this, but to say this is Tolkien is simply insulting to his legacy. At this point it isn’t even good storytelling period.
I thought Numenor in the background, when Galadriel in armor boards the ship, looked flat and sort of , like printed. The way it was done 50 years ago. Am I right?
Where did galadriel get that armour? It looks like the armour she had in first two episodes but she left it behind when she jumped off from the ship. Did she get new from Numenor?
Nice catch with of the copy-paste crowd. There's something really weird going on with the shows timeline. The meteor in episode 1 synced all the four storylines to the same point in the timeline. The Elrond/Durin/Mithril storyline in the previous episode, where we were shown the elven/dwarven building project being quite far in construction, there was no time jump scene that explained the passing of time. The Harfoots scene in this episode, where Poppy sings her mother's song and it becomes a montage scene showing the pass of time. This time jump explains how Hallbrand has become a blacksmith in Numeron. But this time jump didn't affect the events in the Southlands with Arondir and the orcs, nor did it seem to affect the scenes with Elrond/Durin/Gil-Galad.
I remember watching a film where the passage of time was marked by a scene of the sea washing against rocks around a lighthouse. The clip repeated when the story needed to pass time in the protagonist's life. It worked because it was consistent.
Timeline!!!! Hahahaha!!!! Do you think mate that this abominable writing cares about? The elves with the dwarf have meetings crossing vast distances in the way we are moving from the kitchen to the bedroom!!
2:08. Another pair of duplicates missed: On the top right, above the red and purple circles, you see a pair of men: one indian(Left) and one white (right). Now if you move your eyes all the way to the left, you see the same pair, but mirrored. They're above the middle set of red/purple circles and to the right of the left-most red circle. We should make a game to see who can find the most duplicates. Like the world's worst version of where's waldo :)
Gil galad asking Elrond if the dwarves found mithril and Elrond responding with, "ummm I swore to keep my oath about hiding the dwarves secrets" reminds me of that character on the Simpsons who said he can't answer questions about that client's illegal offshore bank account.
Dude after you circled the copy pastry extras, I was able to see about two-thirds of the people were repeated, some had to be added in with graphics, and it makes it seem like this show was just a billion dollar laundering scheme. What.the.hell.dude?
"House of the Dragon" did the same for a tournament, but they actually filmed the extras individually and then dropped them in - it wasn't just a copy paste. 🤷
@CounciloftheRings Man, that is so extra kind of you. No one can say you aren't happy because you are a racist, too generous of a rationalization given what we've seen this season.
Man, I lost your channel for a long time and couldn't find it. Finally this vid showed up in my recommendations. Just subscribed! This episode was my breaking point. I actually screamed at the screen and was about to throw something at it, during the "Mithril contains life-source for elves" scene. This is complete bullshit fanfiction. The filmmakers spit at Tolkien's grave with this mediocracy. I want this show cancelled at all costs.
@@CounciloftheRings Your channel, alongside Disparu, European Lore, George the Giant Slayer, Nerdrotic and a couple of others are literally the only line of defence against this madness. No one else talks about this but you guys. Mad respect to you for dedicating your time and defending Professor's legacy. I think if he were alive, he would appreciate you. You are the mouth of millions who have no means to make their voices heard, so thank you! We're all behind you. ✊
I was watching it late night after my wife had already gone to bed, so I really had to restrain myself from yelling. I hissed profanities at the screen instead. "*It HURTS us!! It HURTS us, Precious!!!!*"
I remember many attempts to create Tolkein’s world Prior to Peter Jackson. And while Jackson took liberties with the Lord of the Rings he managed to Translate Middle Earth and most of its characters believably to the Big Screen. Did elves have wrinkled foreheads.
Elves do not have wrinkled foreheards. Once they hit adulthood, aging as we humans know it essentially stops with the only notable sign of EXTREME age (like10k+ years or more) is that male elves may sometimes grow a beard, but they have to be extremely old for that. A rare example of this is Círdan, lord of Mithlond. I am astonished at the casting for all of the elves in RoP. I'm not even talking about the race swopping. The Eldar do not have aged wrinkled faces and yet so many of them just look like humans with pointed ears. The only elf that looks like an elf is GaLadRiEL, but I find that sad to say since the character itself bears no personality resembalance to the real Galadriel.
Ray. Apart from being relatively pretty (imho) Morfydd has nothing elvish about her. She is way to short for example and lacks the air of calm self confidence that you would expect from a thousands of year old princess of the Noldor.
@@charlesmartel5495 I was referring specifically to her appearance not her personality. She has the right face and eyes. But you're right about the height. She is not made to appear nearly tall enough. She's far too short, and should be towering over Halbrand and every other human. But the showrunners aren't correcting height with ANY of the elves. All of the elves should be taller than humans. I was saying that of all the casting choices, in physical appearance, that Morfydd is the closest in appearance to an actual elf, with the exception of her height. Her horrible personality is unrelated to the intent of my orginal statement. I don't disagree with yours though. GaLadriEl's personality, her story and every other detail of her life, has NOTHING to do with the real Galadriel we know from the books. The charater named Adar, played by Joseph Mawle, would be my next pick for a casting choice that looks like an elf. He's got the right eyes. I've noticed that about the actor way back when he was an actor on Game of Thrones, thinking, "If he had the right makeup and hair, smoothed his face out, he'd make a fine looking elf with those slightly slanted eyes." And there he is in Rings of Power.... but is an abonination of an elf instead. It's like a bloody joke, every decision showrunners make seems to make a mockery of the world.
Among other things, what really for me was unbielevably stupid, unrealisitic and counter lore, was the fact that apparentely the mighty Numenor has no professional soldiers, so they take raw recruits who volountered with 2 days of training into battle, and its 3 ships total od these newbies. What is this? Numenor was a nation of mightiest warriors , the men at their height, they scared Sauron just by landing on middle earth. And here we get 3 ships of clowns. Its... unbelievable.
Wait. I saw an Asian Numenorian in the crowd. How race and ethnicity work in this TV show? Can a couple of black Numenorians give birth to an Arabic or white Numenorian? If not, if it works just like in real life, how did so many races got together without mixing and leading to an homogenous society after thousands of years? My head hurts.
Thank you for your endurance to get through the entirety of this episode. “Legs are short but the way is long” seared me so severely I had to skip the rest of the “dashed” line plot along the “migration” map. Disney is a good comparison. I was thinking Sesame Street. I am excited to hear your taking on a 2nd age tale. Please be sure to have some of Tolkien’s song writing.. don’t rush!!!
I have to start calling you Deadeye from now on. Spotting those copies of the people in the crowd is absolutely legendary! My line of work requires me to notice things like that and i would have missed that detail out of sheer apathy. Other than that i think the 1/10 review was too generous in this case. You have a lot of comments to get through but after seeing your review skills. I would really like to see you review the cartoons for the Hobbit and the lord of the rings from the 70's and the early 80's? The algorithm put some clown on my feed that was crapping on those productions in video after video. No one was agreeing with him either. Some Gen Z doofus. But i think your analysis of the animation would be amazing.
@@CounciloftheRings Good job picking up on those clones! Also looking closer at some of the other people, the lighting and size ratios look off, esp. on the right side. When they went in to that mithril Silmaril/tree explanation, that's when i decided I'm not watching anymore..
@@RoseBaggins Even if they said it was loosely Tolkien based without respecting any of the lore it is still a very bad series. Even if it was an all new original fantasy story it is still very bad acting, writing, cinematography,...
When you go and change the lore so drastically just to create a plot point... you need to wonder how the writers could lack any kind of creativity. It's their job. I did not like the show. Now I'm offended by it.
Definitely the worst episode yet. Although I'm less upset about it now because I "disowned" this series from Tolkien's Legendarium several episodes ago. Now it's just watching for the lolz, and so I can understand and appreciate these reviews.
“but but but they didn’t have the rights, so they can’t tell it in the way Tolkien wrote! Therefore, your critique is unwarranted.” Yes, but they are going out of their way to take an Oliphaunt shit on everything. You do not have to actively go against lore if you don’t have the rights.
That the elves need a ton of mithril by spring to prevent them from perishing all of a sudden... put the final nail in the coffin. I am burying all hopes I had for this show.
The mining of the ore alone, the procesing (forging) of the ore alone, the distribution of the stuff all over ME to all the Elves alone... Every single step alone would take more time than they have. And they have to do ALL of that :D
The whole 'mithril myth' is utterly preposterous, the actual use of mithril implausible (what, give each Elf a mithril night-light?), and Gil-galad's plan inexplicable. He wants this unnamed magic metal from the Misty Mountains, in vast quantity. Celebrimbor knows of this and starts up this big secret project in Eregion. Now, how to get the legendary metal? Gil-galad sends Elrond to assist Celebrimbor, with no brief but to assist him. When Celebrimbor tells him of the plan for the giant forge to be completed by Spring (giving no reason), it is Elrond who thinks up the idea of increasing his 'work force' by going to the Dwarves. He does so; and not until the work on the forge is well under way (after yet another untold interval of time) does Celebrimbor prompt Elrond still more by telling him that he _thinks_ Durin is hiding something. My, it's a lucky thing that the Dwarves struck mithril this year, and not next year, when it would have been too late! Note that this is all respecting the Amazon parallel-world Arda, not simply a 'it's not Tolkien' problem. The whole story line just a trainwreck from start to finish, relieved by nice character moments with Elrond/Durin/Disa. It is all so ridiculous that the only way they might salvage could be to do some convoluted wheels-within-wheels thing where this isn't the real plan, it's not the real mithril origin, and it's all a lie, and there's an even _more_ secret agenda at work (cue Sauron). That would be incredibly annoying, because it would make this entire story line meaningless, but it would still be an improvement.
After seeing the trailers and the interviews, I lost hope. I had none when watching the first episode. I'm just watching it now to say that I have in order to have informed debate over how bad it is. It's a Masterclass in what NOT TO DO with a billion dollars.
The whole thing reminds me increasingly of Mark Twain's evisceration of James Fenimore Cooper's 'Deerslayer': There are nineteen rules governing literary art in the domain of romantic fiction-some say twenty-two. In Deerslayer Cooper violated eighteen of them. These eighteen require: 1. That a tale shall accomplish something and arrive somewhere. But the Deerslayer tale accomplishes nothing and arrives in the air. 2. They require that the episodes of a tale shall be necessary parts of the tale, and shall help to develop it. But as the Deerslayer tale is not a tale, and accomplishes nothing and arrives nowhere, the episodes have no rightful place in the work, since there was nothing for them to develop. 3. They require that the personages in a tale shall be alive, except in the case of corpses, and that always the reader shall be able to tell the corpses from the others. But this detail has often been overlooked in the Deerslayer tale. 4. They require that the personages in a tale, both dead and alive, shall exhibit a sufficient excuse for being there. But this detail also has been overlooked in the Deerslayer tale. 5. They require that when the personages of a tale deal in conversation, the talk shall sound like human talk, and be talk such as human beings would be likely to talk in the given circumstances, and have a discoverable meaning, also a discoverable purpose, and a show of relevancy, and remain in the neighborhood of the subject in hand, and be interesting to the reader, and help out the tale, and stop when the people cannot think of anything more to say. But this requirement has been ignored from the beginning of the Deerslayer tale to the end of it. (and much more. It is delightful reading. It includes a quite detailed analysis of a shooting feat that makes Galadriel's combat skills look plausible by comparison. Overpowered heroes are nothing new-Sir Walter Scott gave us Robin Hood's arrow-splitting shot in "Ivanhoe")
Imagine they build up to a big elven ceremony to bathe in the light of mithril, just for it do nothing. And Elrond like “Dude I told you that song wasn’t true, it’s just a fancy rock.”
I love your ability to analyze and breakdown why something is good or bad from story, lore, etc. Hope you continue doing reviews for other shows and seasons
Hilarious are the names the characters have been given: Karl Marx as Pharazon Don Lemonlas as Arondir Doogie Howser as Elrond Guyladriel - Galadriel Hobo Baggins - Largo Brandyfoot Not Sauron - Halbrand Eminem Rings of Power cost per hour/episode: $89.4 million. Jackson's trilogy cost per hour: $44.4 million (adjusted for inflation).
Great review. And its so odd that the show is called LOTR: The RoP when it has nothing to do with LOTR stories and so far nothing to do with rings of power.
Worst episode yet!!, to who they made this?, kids? Galadriel training Numenoreans!! The sword play was horrendous, the swords are bigger that her, as the numenoreans!! She is 6’4” for god sake!
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How did galadriel have her armor at the end of the episode, did she have her friends run her back to the undying lands real quick so she could grab her change of clothes?
I guess since the numenorians once fought with the elves together against morgoth they still got a spare lying around somewhere. And since all elves (women and men alike) have the same measurements it totally fits everytime an elf comes and visits
@@jf1274 The type and style is far from that used by current Numenorean forces, so it's not munition grade. Galadriel's armour has detailing and is fitted so needs several hundred hours of work, although this could be reduced if Numenor did keep some in a museum (assuming there's an armourer familiar with working that style of armour). The episode's timeline is inconsistent, but it didn't feel like several months had passed. [Edit: that's not to say it hasn't as it would at least that long to prepare 500 cavalry, let alone from rank volunteers in a marketplace.]
They might as well have written the scene with Gil-galad explaining to Elrond about mithril like this: "So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's mithril or just very powerful light of the Silmaril," the High King said, turning to Elrond, his closest counsellor, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it. "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting."
I really wish now that this show keeps this pace and bad writing because we can keep watching your hilarious reviews! You’re the best! You made my day! I laughed so hard I couldn’t stop crying! You’re the best describing our emotions during the episodes! 😂😂😂
Was out of town and couldn't watch the episode and the review on time, but again brilliant video. I just laugh so much, it's the only reason to watch the series
11:31 The irony is that Monty Python actually used true historical equipment. Those guys were all "history buffs". The Numenorean armor was made out of some fabric. It was painfully obvious. If Amazon expected to "pass" it as plates/scales or metal... Oh boy, were they wrong!
May this be a lesson, to the surviving members of that family, never to sell off a single bit of their legacy, to anybody, ever again! Amazon just showed the Tolkien family the wanton destruction that they will do to their forefather's legacy, for a cheap buck. And they shouldn't trust any other studio, for that matter, to do any better.
"Where did all the money go?" Evidently not the writing or the acting that's for sure. The amount of hammy performances lining this show is truly unbearable.. reading critics reviews I have to believe the game is rigged. House of Dragons has its flaws but its at least entertaining... this show takes energy to invest to stay present. Big yikes but not surprised that Amazon would take something as brilliant as Tolkien and drag it through the mud.
Yeah, worst episode yet for me too. To think this show took inspiration from Tar-Minastir's expedition for this: three goddamn ships and a few hundreds soldiers. The full might of Numenor ladies and gentlemen. Also, very good idea to send your childless Queen Regent in Middle-Earth, a place you apparently know nothing of, with only a few soldiers. Nothing can go wrong here, eh?
Yepp. Didn't they plan to send 400 soldiers? Now it's only 300 because of the "accident". They are all like "Oh, we lost a quarter of our force - Well, doesn't matter, just let's go without it then!"
Time lines in RoP : -« Days or maybe Hours » like Arondir Said, ep 5 for the Southlanders - Days for Numenor - Weeks for the Non-Hobbit - Month for Durin and the « elves » -centuries for the lore
Me too Im so angry you know what in going to do? in going to buy a frying pan on amazon but wait theres more Im going to return it but i will put a note on it so when they open it up the note will say this pan is better than ring of power get it cuz its round but if we all do it then it will catch on and make the news whos with me?!
I think the psychotic harfoots deserve a mention. In one scene she is suggesting they remove the wheels and strand a family, the next scene she's smiling at them. They are way more terrifying than the orcs so far!
One might almost think this group came from a failed group of Orcs and not the Hobbit line.
@@Slayer398 hahaha fr
The Orcs are the best part of the show, but even Amazon had to ruin that turning them into vampires
Sooo an elf and a balrog were fighting near a tree with a silmaril in it…it got struck by lightning and the bolt went through the silmaril and into the ground, creating mithril…which the elves now need so they don’t die…
…Wait, what?! I laughed out loud when I heard this, it’s just so ridiculous. The writers really don’t understand fundamental things about the world Tolkien created. It has become laughably bad.
To be fair, the idea of how Mithril was created, was a cool idea for a generic fairy tale / fantasy story. But as it claims to be an LotR Adaption, I have nothing more to add than what you just said.
@@Maryondo Well, and if we care about the lore (And we should, because Tolkien is the one who created the sandbox we’re playing in), the unfinished tales says there was mithril in Numenor as well. So are we to now believe this balrog, silmaril, lighting combo happened twice? Regardless of what they have rights to use, they should know what lore exist so the audience doesn’t need to continually suspend disbelief. It’s just becoming silly at this point and I can feel myself shifting from frustration to just apathy.
@@MapEffects Aye.
That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
These reviews are the best thing about the show.
You missed the best part: the scene where Isildur gets punched by his friend is the same reused set where Halbrand fights the dudes before. Billion dollar production right there.
Actually it's less than 18 million per episode
@@SailorDoggo is that supposed to make this less of a flop?
@@SailorDoggo Its funny how the number always goes down after each episode comes out. At the start amazon proudly said its a 1 billion dollar show, then it came out with the reviews, it became a 1 billion dollar 5 seasons, now they are saying it 18 million an episode.
They are in dmg control mode.
THANK YOU FOR ALSO NOTICING THIS
@@SailorDoggo
Game of Thrones had less per episode.
If Galadriel accidentally slipped on a banana and cracked her melon; causing her to be in a coma until the end of the season... I'm up for that plot twist.
It wouldn't be any less serious than what's happening in the show already.
Edit: Thank you all for 2 likes! 💕
They can put that in slow motion. Slip... wait for it... wait for it... CRACK.
They are more likely to make Gandalf, Elrond or Sauron slip like that rather than Galadriel
Maybe that's kind of already happened but we didn't see it, except that instead of being in a coma she's stumbling around like a moron.
@@derspacer2259 Don't give them ideas!
I have to give the show some credit. The reviews I've watched because of it have been very entertaining and funny AF.
Billion Dollar Dumpster Fire 10/10
As of now, over 30% of user scores for this travesty on IMDb are 10/10, and the shill media has still said NOTHING about that sort of "review bombing".
And over half of user scores are 8/10 and above, with little-to-no justification.
It was for a short while. Now it's just depressing.
@@DavidTMSN For those who saw a lot. There are new viewers all the time. For them, it's fresh.
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Most expensive flop ever. Yay!
new form of entertainment, watching people make fun of large productions
Elrond the cardio god walking back and forth from Lindon to Khazad-dum every episode.
He took an Uber. This is a modern adaptation of Tolkien work after all.
You must remember that the showrunners really wanted this show to reflect our times now so an uber does sound very possible.
Notice that Halbrand’s skill at smithing is so great that, merely by hammering the steel, he can create a sharp blade with fine engravings.
And what a quick learner he is!
He got his guild badge already in like a week.
It normally takes people years
@@riskitforthebiscuit4802 For his defence: He got the Guild membership for betraying Galadriel :P
Overnight! The contestant on foraged in fire have five days.
Halbrand is actually an RPG character
This is very true, and very annoying, but to be fair, PJ’s film made a similar mistake when it seemed to imply that Narsil was reforged by simply hammering the pieces back together. Not quite as egregious, maybe.
I see we’ve finally hit Council’s breaking point. Let me guess, screwing with the Silmarils was the lore break too far
Yes one does not simply mess with the Silmarils, when there's a Tolkien book called The SILMARILLION 😆 Enough with their nonsense
It was mine…..
One does not simply mess with the Silmarils.
It hit my breaking pint, I'm out watching the show directly, will continue to follow quality reviewers like Council.
Do they even have the rights to insert that tree+mithril 'lore' from the IP they purchased?
I give ROP 5 stars because it's so versatile .
I can watch it, play games on my phone, check facebook, browse the news , go make myself a coffee and I won't have missed anything important.
Amazon understands that people have busy lives and has designed a show for life in 2022 and is thus catering to our needs.
How about Halbrands guild badge?
How must have worked years to earn that after being told he couldn't work at the forge?
Amazon: Oh you must have missed that part while you making your coffee.
lmfao, each episode feels like slightly expanded "previously on Rings of Power.....", could probably just watch the season finale only and you would not have missed much
He traded something for it
The uncredited actors at the supper table with Durin and Elrond and Gil-Galad were Amazon call center employees who won an incentive for selling the most delivery insurance.
I think they were employees doing that instead of their bathroom break. Thats why they wont even breath. They are trying to keep it in.
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Great call! 😆🤣😂
Galadriel shouldn’t have even bothered asking for the support of Numenor. I mean she could have just swam to Middle Earth and when in land destroy Adar and his army in a 10 second Ice Troll Kill style manner.
Yes but then she wouldn't have returned with the vast throngs of Summer-born Numenorean volunteers packed aboard those three sailing dinghies - surely even Sauron at the peak of his powers would feel the icy fingers of fear creeping up his spine at the thought of this horde of vanquishers descending upon his long prepared and constructed defences; the many leagues crossing the wide stormy oceans, followed by the relentless gallops down through to the Southlands, sustained only by what they can forage, will surely be no impediment to such paragons of valour, amirite?
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 if it was Tolkien's work, then yes. Numenorians are supposed to be incredibly powerful compared to normal humans. In this show, they're just chumps.
@@GeraltofRivia22 I’m actually siding with Lord Sauron and I will get excited seeing his forces crush these halfwits
I have to agree with the -1 Lore score. The show has reached the point where it is outright hostile to the Lore. This episode actually started out a little better than the others but then crashed and burned hard.
I agree
The negative lore score is very well deserved! What a disgrace to the Professor's beautiful creation.
An abomination, poor Tolkien!
Professor😂😂😂
If it's that bad, why are people still watching it?! They don't care if you like it or hatewatch it. As long as they get the eyeballs on it and the money, they win. Stop supporting this stuff!
@@Yesica1993 What's wrong with liking it?
@@Yesica1993 You don't have to watch it on Amazon. I'm not giving them any view counts for my viewership. I'm rogue watching elsewhere on the internet just to be able to say "I watched it" so I can have an informed debate. I know lots of people, who out of principle, are not watching it on Amazon for this very reason.
You know, after this series wraps up, I would really love to see you goung through the six Peter Jackson films, plus fan films like Born of Hope and The Hunt for Gollum, and break down the aspects of the lore that were represented well, or in some cases poorly.
After a string of low-scoring TV episodes, it'd be nice to watch something of quality related to Middle-earth.
It's something I plan to do without doubt! I didn't consider Born of hope etc. but that's actually quite good ideas! 🤗
@@CounciloftheRings Yes, I have a big soft spot for it, especially for how it depicts the Dunedain and the Sons of Elrond.
As for The Hobbit films, if the prospect of the extended trilogy is too much I do not blame you - there are fan edits out there (like the excellent one by Chris Hartwell) that trim it down to something more presentable.
Don't forget The Horn of Gondor as well.
I agree and isn’t it absolutely incredible that fans on a low budget managed to create something a zillion times more accurate and watchable than Amazon‘s abomination?
Bro it's the first season chill out
I just want to thank Amazon and the showrunners for curing my insomnia.
Shits better than melatonin
@@sonicandroxas Thank you! I kept daydreaming.
😂
The Mithril plotline is absurd, has no connection to the lore at all, was totally made up and for no reasons. Gil Galad is a terrible character when he could and should be on the same level as Aragorn, as his character in the lord is amazing, Galadriel is as insufferable as always, now being also the arrogant cocky fencing instructor, Isildur is an impulsive child and his sister is useless. I'm done with this show.
they're really trying to show that LOOK WE'RE LIKE GAME OF THRONES - EVERYBODY IS SCHEMING AND HAS THEIR OWN AGENDA !!!!111 - which on its own is a huge betrayal of Tolkien's works
In Isildur's defense, he's only -1500 years old. He's less than an impulsive child, less than an impulsive zygote. He's 15 generations pre-born!!
The one thing that can possibly save this show at this point: In the final episode of season 1, it is revealed that this was all Sauron telling the story, and a voiceover comes in to state: And now we will let you know what really happened.
The only thing that can actually save this show is to edit one of the Monty Python actors, walking in at the beginning of the show, and saying, bombastically: "And now for something completely different..." Then we can all act as if this entire show was nothing more than a hilarious spoof of Tolkien. And we can all have a good laugh about all of its' "wrongness." That's about the only thing that can conjure some value out of this show, at this point.
Or, series two starts with a young Galadriel waking from a very bad nightmare (and realises she doesn't want to spend her remaining millennia in middle earth with the unresolved trauma of some boys throwing rocks at her paper boat).
You’ll know you f***ed up when the only way to salvage your show is to go full Rashomon.
Its a stroy like in Adventure Time when the Ice King Gender swaps the main characters in his fanfic. Maybe Sauron is the Ice King here.
Maybe have Cate Blanchett looking up from her mirror: "Sauron, you really ARE an arsehole!"
Lol, billion dollar budget and they copy and pasted the crowd
hahahah indeed
After this episode I’m done with watching the show but I plan to continue watching your reviews.
@Kevin Omdahl I kinda stopped wanting to.
The Silmaril story made me feel sick.
I'm in the same boat. I couldn't finish this episode and came here instead to watch the review.
The fact that we have had as much screen time as Fellowship and The Two Towers…and this is what we have.
Man that hit me hard.
With twice the money spent as well. It's $60 million per episode (total of $360 mil), compared to about $90 million for each of the Peter Jackson movies (total of $180 mil). Even if you adjust for inflation, it's still super bad lol
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@@BassUndertow will go down as most expensive flop. I just don’t understand how they got it so bad. The plot was already there…
@SingBrotherHeckler I think by S4 E8 we will finally have our plot 😂
It was nice of the Valar to FedEx Galadriel's armor back to her on Númenor.
Amazon same day shipping...
The eagles moonlighting as delivery drones
I am a simple Rohirrim, i click a like and ride for the hills when i see such an abomination.
Sorry to be a grammatical pedant, bur I'm pretty sure "Rohirim" is a plural word. It's singular form would be, I guess, "Rohir".
Wow that copy pasting characters says it all, good catch
I love how Guyladriel magically got her same old armour back, despite having been shipwrecked in the nighty since episode 2.
I had it with this show. Im thinking of cancelling my Amazon Prime account now. The only reason why I haven't is because of the free shipping. This show is beyond repair. This show has nothing to do with middle earth. I still can't get over the fact about Mithril and how the Elves need it to survive. That is absolute bullcrap.
I cheering on all the Orcs to kill off all the elves, Numemorians and the humans - especially Galadriel. That way they will stop making a joke of Tolkien's work. The only good thing in this show is the Dwarves. That's because its true to the nature of LotR. But the Mithril side story is beyond dumb.
The best scene for me so far was, when Galadriel was finally put to jail. 10/10 - I would love to see that again.
How did Celebrimbor and Elrond hatch a plot to get mithril when it was Elrond’s idea to seek the help of the dwarves to guild the forge?
They actually invited him because they knew he is a dwarf-fucker and will suggests them and that he also has a personal bootycall for Durin to get them inside
I guess
Well it hardly required a pointy-eared Einstein to come to the conclusion that if you want someone who is good at quarrying, mining, masonry, construction, forge-building etc, then the Dwarves would be the ones at the top of your list. In fact the biggest problem with the deceit is that it beggars belief that this would not have occurred to Kelly Bimb Rawr. He should just have said to Elrond "I know you and Durin are old pals, can you ask him to help us out?"
If the plan was to get all the mithril, then that raises three questions.
1. How did the Elves know about the mithril, when the Dwarves has a secret door put in to the mine so as to keep its mining a secret?
2. Why is Celebrimbor supervising the construction of a forge, being built by Dwarves, that will not help them get to the mithril?
3. If mithril is required to keep the Elves alive, then why did they not take Frodo's mithril shirt in LotR, and melt it down? Did they just "get better"?
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Elves are extremely competent builders and smiths too. That whole plot point about needing teh dwarves is stupid. Especially considering they just declared there to be no threat; what are all the elves doing? Must be extremely lazy and certainly won't be taking anyones jobs.
@@Hedgehog1039 It's a question of manpower (elfpower?) - as Kelly Bimbo said, they simply don't have enough Elven builders the complete the project on time.
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I agree. All the other so called toilken fans seem too be getting paid by Amazon to say they enjoyed this garbage.
I’m shocked to see many Tolkien fans still defending this series. I don’t know why they are so sold on this, but to say this is Tolkien is simply insulting to his legacy. At this point it isn’t even good storytelling period.
The only ones still defending this garbage are on Amazon's payroll.
Because it has "LotR" in the title and thus must be good ;-)
Well they are not really Tolkien fans though, they might be fantasy fans or even lotr and hobbit movies fans but not Tolkien fans.
The story about an elf, a balrog, a tree and a lightning strike sounds like a scene from Kung Fury
The only positive coming out from Ring of power is the honest reviews videos
I thought Numenor in the background, when Galadriel in armor boards the ship, looked flat and sort of , like printed. The way it was done 50 years ago. Am I right?
yeah greenscreen :/
you are very right, I recommend checking out a short video of "Eric the Cameraman", he explained some issues with this technique (and others) in RoP
Where did galadriel get that armour? It looks like the armour she had in first two episodes but she left it behind when she jumped off from the ship. Did she get new from Numenor?
I thought the same as soon as I saw it on her. As a matter of fact none of the elves were wearing armour when they were sailing to Valinor
So many details about this show is left ignored.
Stop asking questions, just ConSUmE.
@@SaintFort An entire, personalized full-body armor in ... what? 1 day? Ye, sure.
Amazon same day delivery.
Nice catch with of the copy-paste crowd.
There's something really weird going on with the shows timeline. The meteor in episode 1 synced all the four storylines to the same point in the timeline.
The Elrond/Durin/Mithril storyline in the previous episode, where we were shown the elven/dwarven building project being quite far in construction, there was no time jump scene that explained the passing of time.
The Harfoots scene in this episode, where Poppy sings her mother's song and it becomes a montage scene showing the pass of time. This time jump explains how Hallbrand has become a blacksmith in Numeron. But this time jump didn't affect the events in the Southlands with Arondir and the orcs, nor did it seem to affect the scenes with Elrond/Durin/Gil-Galad.
I remember watching a film where the passage of time was marked by a scene of the sea washing against rocks around a lighthouse. The clip repeated when the story needed to pass time in the protagonist's life. It worked because it was consistent.
Timeline!!!! Hahahaha!!!!
Do you think mate that this abominable writing cares about?
The elves with the dwarf have meetings crossing vast distances in the way we are moving from the kitchen to the bedroom!!
2:08. Another pair of duplicates missed: On the top right, above the red and purple circles, you see a pair of men: one indian(Left) and one white (right). Now if you move your eyes all the way to the left, you see the same pair, but mirrored. They're above the middle set of red/purple circles and to the right of the left-most red circle.
We should make a game to see who can find the most duplicates. Like the world's worst version of where's waldo :)
It's hard to comprehend how bad it actually is.
"Trainwreck" is the mildest description i could think of.
Dumpster fire.
Let's just say that the great cataclysm that sunk the island to the bottom of the sea is now only the *2nd* worst thing that's happened to Numenor.
That awful crowd duplication made my day. What the flying fuck went wrong with that production? It can't be a lack of budget, that's for sure.
Galadriel got her amour back? How?
Cheat codes 🤘
Plot armor
It was hidden in her giant prison pocket the whole time. That explains her facial expressions so far.
She ordered a new set from Amazon Prime! (With free shipping...)
Gil galad asking Elrond if the dwarves found mithril and Elrond responding with, "ummm I swore to keep my oath about hiding the dwarves secrets" reminds me of that character on the Simpsons who said he can't answer questions about that client's illegal offshore bank account.
lol exactly, Elrond's response and demeanour were enough for anyone who has at least average IQ to draw the right conclusions
Liiiiike!
Imagine the show we could have watched if they gave Peter Jackson a billion dollar budget smh
Dude after you circled the copy pastry extras, I was able to see about two-thirds of the people were repeated, some had to be added in with graphics, and it makes it seem like this show was just a billion dollar laundering scheme. What.the.hell.dude?
I guess Covid-19 meant few extras could be on set, but it's a guess
"House of the Dragon" did the same for a tournament, but they actually filmed the extras individually and then dropped them in - it wasn't just a copy paste. 🤷
@CounciloftheRings Man, that is so extra kind of you. No one can say you aren't happy because you are a racist, too generous of a rationalization given what we've seen this season.
Man, I lost your channel for a long time and couldn't find it. Finally this vid showed up in my recommendations. Just subscribed!
This episode was my breaking point. I actually screamed at the screen and was about to throw something at it, during the "Mithril contains life-source for elves" scene. This is complete bullshit fanfiction. The filmmakers spit at Tolkien's grave with this mediocracy. I want this show cancelled at all costs.
Welcome back! 🤗
@@CounciloftheRings Your channel, alongside Disparu, European Lore, George the Giant Slayer, Nerdrotic and a couple of others are literally the only line of defence against this madness. No one else talks about this but you guys. Mad respect to you for dedicating your time and defending Professor's legacy. I think if he were alive, he would appreciate you. You are the mouth of millions who have no means to make their voices heard, so thank you! We're all behind you. ✊
I was watching it late night after my wife had already gone to bed, so I really had to restrain myself from yelling. I hissed profanities at the screen instead. "*It HURTS us!! It HURTS us, Precious!!!!*"
The show runners are charlatans. I can only imagine the salaries they've paid themselves.
wouldn't surprise me if 25 million a year per Show runner, "for all the work they put in".
thats americans for you
"It's a key"
-"To what?"
"Idk."
10/10 writing
It reminds me of star wars episode 9 with the dagger being a map. It’s just so face palmingly bad
NO SECOND SEASON. PLEASE GOD IM BEGGING YOU 🙏🏻
It starts filming in about a week. Their contract with the Tolkien estate is for 5 seasons.
@@anwynoakenshield doesn’t matter, but will have to pay the Tolkien estate regardless. 😂 don’t hire WOKE MORONS. F U AMAZON
It takes me forever to finish an episode because I need to pause it and ask myself wtf am I watching.
The Ships...the ships were tiny and are we supposed to believe they all have horses too ?
Yeah I’ll include that in next review. I’m curious to see where they are 😂
100 horses each, probably. Plus 100 soldiers and maybe +20 sailors, unless they are soldiers too?
I died laughing when you said, " I'm bringing in negatives now.."😅🤣🤣
I remember many attempts to create Tolkein’s world Prior to Peter Jackson. And while Jackson took liberties with the Lord of the Rings he managed to Translate Middle Earth and most of its characters believably to the Big Screen. Did elves have wrinkled foreheads.
Elves do not have wrinkled foreheards. Once they hit adulthood, aging as we humans know it essentially stops with the only notable sign of EXTREME age (like10k+ years or more) is that male elves may sometimes grow a beard, but they have to be extremely old for that. A rare example of this is Círdan, lord of Mithlond. I am astonished at the casting for all of the elves in RoP. I'm not even talking about the race swopping. The Eldar do not have aged wrinkled faces and yet so many of them just look like humans with pointed ears. The only elf that looks like an elf is GaLadRiEL, but I find that sad to say since the character itself bears no personality resembalance to the real Galadriel.
Ray. Apart from being relatively pretty (imho) Morfydd has nothing elvish about her. She is way to short for example and lacks the air of calm self confidence that you would expect from a thousands of year old princess of the Noldor.
@@charlesmartel5495 the should have got the tall Blond woman from Game of thrones to play her.
@@charlesmartel5495 I was referring specifically to her appearance not her personality. She has the right face and eyes. But you're right about the height. She is not made to appear nearly tall enough. She's far too short, and should be towering over Halbrand and every other human. But the showrunners aren't correcting height with ANY of the elves. All of the elves should be taller than humans. I was saying that of all the casting choices, in physical appearance, that Morfydd is the closest in appearance to an actual elf, with the exception of her height. Her horrible personality is unrelated to the intent of my orginal statement. I don't disagree with yours though. GaLadriEl's personality, her story and every other detail of her life, has NOTHING to do with the real Galadriel we know from the books.
The charater named Adar, played by Joseph Mawle, would be my next pick for a casting choice that looks like an elf. He's got the right eyes. I've noticed that about the actor way back when he was an actor on Game of Thrones, thinking, "If he had the right makeup and hair, smoothed his face out, he'd make a fine looking elf with those slightly slanted eyes." And there he is in Rings of Power.... but is an abonination of an elf instead. It's like a bloody joke, every decision showrunners make seems to make a mockery of the world.
Among other things, what really for me was unbielevably stupid, unrealisitic and counter lore, was the fact that apparentely the mighty Numenor has no professional soldiers, so they take raw recruits who volountered with 2 days of training into battle, and its 3 ships total od these newbies. What is this? Numenor was a nation of mightiest warriors , the men at their height, they scared Sauron just by landing on middle earth. And here we get 3 ships of clowns. Its... unbelievable.
I’ll save you the trouble - It’s utter crap, once again ! 🙄🤦🏽♂️💩🤮
+1
Wait. I saw an Asian Numenorian in the crowd. How race and ethnicity work in this TV show? Can a couple of black Numenorians give birth to an Arabic or white Numenorian? If not, if it works just like in real life, how did so many races got together without mixing and leading to an homogenous society after thousands of years? My head hurts.
"How race and ethnicity work in this TV show?" It does not exist, because that would be racist in their point of view.
Obviously there are world wide "stay-in-your-lane" laws in Middle-earth, so the races don't mix. Middle-earth is more Rayysissst than we thought!!
We're not supposed to question those things. If we do, we are racists. 😂
Thank you for your endurance to get through the entirety of this episode. “Legs are short but the way is long” seared me so severely I had to skip the rest of the “dashed” line plot along the “migration” map. Disney is a good comparison. I was thinking Sesame Street. I am excited to hear your taking on a 2nd age tale. Please be sure to have some of Tolkien’s song writing.. don’t rush!!!
Love your reviews! The bucket helmet comment was priceless! Thx!
Hahaha appreciated! 😁
The Monty Python comparison got more of a smile than the whole episode did... : )
They look more like teenagers wearing very poorly fitting cheap armor than elite soldiers.
@@obi-wan3916 all these franchises seem intent of pandering solely to 90s zoomers
I have to start calling you Deadeye from now on. Spotting those copies of the people in the crowd is absolutely legendary! My line of work requires me to notice things like that and i would have missed that detail out of sheer apathy. Other than that i think the 1/10 review was too generous in this case. You have a lot of comments to get through but after seeing your review skills. I would really like to see you review the cartoons for the Hobbit and the lord of the rings from the 70's and the early 80's? The algorithm put some clown on my feed that was crapping on those productions in video after video. No one was agreeing with him either. Some Gen Z doofus. But i think your analysis of the animation would be amazing.
I’ll add it to the list 😁
@@CounciloftheRings - Add _Khraniteli_ (Russian) and _Hobitit_ (Finnish) to the review list, since they are now both available with English subtitles.
@@CounciloftheRings Good job picking up on those clones! Also looking closer at some of the other people, the lighting and size ratios look off, esp. on the right side. When they went in to that mithril Silmaril/tree explanation, that's when i decided I'm not watching anymore..
I mean, how many story gaps and plotholes can you make?? Do they think it's a competition or do they really think that little of their audience?
Or that little of the lore? Or all of the above?
@@RoseBaggins Even if they said it was loosely Tolkien based without respecting any of the lore it is still a very bad series. Even if it was an all new original fantasy story it is still very bad acting, writing, cinematography,...
When you go and change the lore so drastically just to create a plot point... you need to wonder how the writers could lack any kind of creativity. It's their job.
I did not like the show. Now I'm offended by it.
Definitely the worst episode yet. Although I'm less upset about it now because I "disowned" this series from Tolkien's Legendarium several episodes ago. Now it's just watching for the lolz, and so I can understand and appreciate these reviews.
“but but but they didn’t have the rights, so they can’t tell it in the way Tolkien wrote! Therefore, your critique is unwarranted.”
Yes, but they are going out of their way to take an Oliphaunt shit on everything. You do not have to actively go against lore if you don’t have the rights.
That the elves need a ton of mithril by spring to prevent them from perishing all of a sudden... put the final nail in the coffin. I am burying all hopes I had for this show.
You had hope after the first episode? Verily, you have forsaken the path of Wisdom and your mind has been addled by the Hobbit's Leaf.
The mining of the ore alone, the procesing (forging) of the ore alone, the distribution of the stuff all over ME to all the Elves alone... Every single step alone would take more time than they have. And they have to do ALL of that :D
The whole 'mithril myth' is utterly preposterous, the actual use of mithril implausible (what, give each Elf a mithril night-light?), and Gil-galad's plan inexplicable. He wants this unnamed magic metal from the Misty Mountains, in vast quantity. Celebrimbor knows of this and starts up this big secret project in Eregion. Now, how to get the legendary metal? Gil-galad sends Elrond to assist Celebrimbor, with no brief but to assist him. When Celebrimbor tells him of the plan for the giant forge to be completed by Spring (giving no reason), it is Elrond who thinks up the idea of increasing his 'work force' by going to the Dwarves. He does so; and not until the work on the forge is well under way (after yet another untold interval of time) does Celebrimbor prompt Elrond still more by telling him that he _thinks_ Durin is hiding something. My, it's a lucky thing that the Dwarves struck mithril this year, and not next year, when it would have been too late! Note that this is all respecting the Amazon parallel-world Arda, not simply a 'it's not Tolkien' problem. The whole story line just a trainwreck from start to finish, relieved by nice character moments with Elrond/Durin/Disa.
It is all so ridiculous that the only way they might salvage could be to do some convoluted wheels-within-wheels thing where this isn't the real plan, it's not the real mithril origin, and it's all a lie, and there's an even _more_ secret agenda at work (cue Sauron). That would be incredibly annoying, because it would make this entire story line meaningless, but it would still be an improvement.
After seeing the trailers and the interviews, I lost hope. I had none when watching the first episode. I'm just watching it now to say that I have in order to have informed debate over how bad it is. It's a Masterclass in what NOT TO DO with a billion dollars.
The whole thing reminds me increasingly of Mark Twain's evisceration of James Fenimore Cooper's 'Deerslayer':
There are nineteen rules governing literary art in the domain of romantic fiction-some say twenty-two. In Deerslayer Cooper violated eighteen of them. These eighteen require:
1. That a tale shall accomplish something and arrive somewhere. But the Deerslayer tale accomplishes nothing and arrives in the air.
2. They require that the episodes of a tale shall be necessary parts of the tale, and shall help to develop it. But as the Deerslayer tale is not a tale, and accomplishes nothing and arrives nowhere, the episodes have no rightful place in the work, since there was nothing for them to develop.
3. They require that the personages in a tale shall be alive, except in the case of corpses, and that always the reader shall be able to tell the corpses from the others. But this detail has often been overlooked in the Deerslayer tale.
4. They require that the personages in a tale, both dead and alive, shall exhibit a sufficient excuse for being there. But this detail also has been overlooked in the Deerslayer tale.
5. They require that when the personages of a tale deal in conversation, the talk shall sound like human talk, and be talk such as human beings would be likely to talk in the given circumstances, and have a discoverable meaning, also a discoverable purpose, and a show of relevancy, and remain in the neighborhood of the subject in hand, and be interesting to the reader, and help out the tale, and stop when the people cannot think of anything more to say. But this requirement has been ignored from the beginning of the Deerslayer tale to the end of it.
(and much more. It is delightful reading. It includes a quite detailed analysis of a shooting feat that makes Galadriel's combat skills look plausible by comparison. Overpowered heroes are nothing new-Sir Walter Scott gave us Robin Hood's arrow-splitting shot in "Ivanhoe")
I still cannot understand how a billion dollar budget gave us this… 6 hours so far of absolutely nothing.
Imagine they build up to a big elven ceremony to bathe in the light of mithril, just for it do nothing.
And Elrond like “Dude I told you that song wasn’t true, it’s just a fancy rock.”
Ye, they are doing all these drastic actions because of some wild theories XD
Even without the Tolkien affiliation, just as a stand-alone show, it’s abysmal.
I didn't realize that crude oil was a high explosive
I applaud your introduction of negative numbers to your 1-10 rating scale, as a brilliant necessity in giving this show a properly fair assessment.
Your "Ughhh" says more about my view on this show, than any words ever could.
The biggest foes of Middle Earth are clearly the showrunners. They've done more damage to Middle Earth than Morgoth.
I love your ability to analyze and breakdown why something is good or bad from story, lore, etc. Hope you continue doing reviews for other shows and seasons
the fact that only the important characters in the southland are clean and with dyed clothed make me laugh everytime
Dyed with most expensive colour at this time. Oh, and don't forget her huge house :D
Hilarious are the names the characters have been given:
Karl Marx as Pharazon
Don Lemonlas as Arondir
Doogie Howser as Elrond
Guyladriel - Galadriel
Hobo Baggins - Largo Brandyfoot
Not Sauron - Halbrand
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Rings of Power cost per hour/episode: $89.4 million.
Jackson's trilogy cost per hour: $44.4 million (adjusted for inflation).
Why did you start with "X as Y", then started using "X-Y"? I know it may seem pedantic, I just don't understand why not stick to one or the other
@@Walamonga1313 I know right? this is infuriating me more than it should
@@Walamonga1313 It was a copy/paste from elsewhere. Not mine, but I fixed it just for you, man.
@@lingricen8077 That's marvelous.
@@Vorgaloth Oh boy, copying other peoples comments for the desperate need of youtuhe likes, now quaint
How did Galadriel get her armor back??
Cheat codes
@@CounciloftheRings up up down down left right left right F
Great review. And its so odd that the show is called LOTR: The RoP when it has nothing to do with LOTR stories and so far nothing to do with rings of power.
Just when you thought comedy was dead, Amazon brings it back
thanks for your honest review.
by the way, where does guyladriel's armor come from? lindon sent one in an amazon's package off camera?
Worst episode yet!!, to who they made this?, kids? Galadriel training Numenoreans!! The sword play was horrendous, the swords are bigger that her, as the numenoreans!! She is 6’4” for god sake!
I, a high level Tolkien fan, skipped this episode and watched this instead. I think I made the correct choice.
I am in 100% agreement with your review. RoP is garbage.
Ryan Kinel mentioned your channel and I wanted to check your work, that's why I'm here !
Great video 👍
And what a terrible show, The Rings of Power never fail to disappoint 🤣🤣🤣
How did galadriel have her armor at the end of the episode, did she have her friends run her back to the undying lands real quick so she could grab her change of clothes?
Ordered a new set on Amazon Prime.
I guess since the numenorians once fought with the elves together against morgoth they still got a spare lying around somewhere. And since all elves (women and men alike) have the same measurements it totally fits everytime an elf comes and visits
Halbrand obviously whipped it up in the forge. 😏
@@jf1274 The type and style is far from that used by current Numenorean forces, so it's not munition grade. Galadriel's armour has detailing and is fitted so needs several hundred hours of work, although this could be reduced if Numenor did keep some in a museum (assuming there's an armourer familiar with working that style of armour). The episode's timeline is inconsistent, but it didn't feel like several months had passed. [Edit: that's not to say it hasn't as it would at least that long to prepare 500 cavalry, let alone from rank volunteers in a marketplace.]
They might as well have written the scene with Gil-galad explaining to Elrond about mithril like this:
"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's mithril or just very powerful light of the Silmaril," the High King said, turning to Elrond, his closest counsellor, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it. "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting."
I really wish now that this show keeps this pace and bad writing because we can keep watching your hilarious reviews! You’re the best! You made my day! I laughed so hard I couldn’t stop crying! You’re the best describing our emotions during the episodes! 😂😂😂
Where did Guyladrial get her wardrobe from after being rescued at sea? Also why wear battle arnour aboard a ship?
I’ve honestly not watched an entire episode through. I end up just skipping through cause it’s such a snooze fest
Your are 100% right. Only good acting ist between elrond and durin.
Your review are very good. Id like to ask where the hell Guyladriel stored her armor all this time?
Inside her incredibly loose prison pocket, obviously.
Cheat codes no doubt
She ordered same day delivery from Amazon. Same with Arondir's armour.
It was a gift apparently. Might be even more lore breaking yet.
The only good part of this show has been to show me which Tolkien themed channels to stop watching. The ones who say its good, specifically.
Wow, I didn’t catch the copy/paste characters in the crowd… Thats just pure laziness 🤦🏻♂️
Hey Council, what was the Easteregg in your video "Why Didn't Sauron Resurrect Smaug If He Was A Necromancer?"?
2:52 in the video. On the witch-king it says “I hate barrels too” 😆 It’s hard to spot
@@CounciloftheRings Thanks, now I see it. 😂
Was out of town and couldn't watch the episode and the review on time, but again brilliant video. I just laugh so much, it's the only reason to watch the series
11:31 The irony is that Monty Python actually used true historical equipment. Those guys were all "history buffs".
The Numenorean armor was made out of some fabric. It was painfully obvious. If Amazon expected to "pass" it as plates/scales or metal... Oh boy, were they wrong!
Odds on elves smoking the mithril to absorb the light of the Valar?
I was wondering this, but I figured they'd either melt it down and drink it from a dropper, or forge it into super-lightweight chainmail underpants.
Probably this "plot" will be the reason for forging the rings.
Danke!
Poor John, poor Christopher... its truely a shame to see their legacy getting destroyed like this.
Christopher is a wanker for not being involved in any of the adaptations. He refused to even meet Peter Jackson.
May this be a lesson, to the surviving members of that family, never to sell off a single bit of their legacy, to anybody, ever again! Amazon just showed the Tolkien family the wanton destruction that they will do to their forefather's legacy, for a cheap buck. And they shouldn't trust any other studio, for that matter, to do any better.
I am going to paste Simon Tolkien's face on one of my archery targets.
How correct to the lore is when compair Shodow of Mordor to Rings of power?
Loved the minus 1, keep on the good work. I am going to throw up now, this show has left a tempest in me…
"Where did all the money go?" Evidently not the writing or the acting that's for sure. The amount of hammy performances lining this show is truly unbearable.. reading critics reviews I have to believe the game is rigged. House of Dragons has its flaws but its at least entertaining... this show takes energy to invest to stay present. Big yikes but not surprised that Amazon would take something as brilliant as Tolkien and drag it through the mud.
Yeah, worst episode yet for me too. To think this show took inspiration from Tar-Minastir's expedition for this: three goddamn ships and a few hundreds soldiers. The full might of Numenor ladies and gentlemen.
Also, very good idea to send your childless Queen Regent in Middle-Earth, a place you apparently know nothing of, with only a few soldiers. Nothing can go wrong here, eh?
Yepp. Didn't they plan to send 400 soldiers? Now it's only 300 because of the "accident".
They are all like "Oh, we lost a quarter of our force - Well, doesn't matter, just let's go without it then!"
Time lines in RoP :
-« Days or maybe Hours » like Arondir Said, ep 5 for the Southlanders
- Days for Numenor
- Weeks for the Non-Hobbit
- Month for Durin and the « elves »
-centuries for the lore
I’ve absolutely had it with this RINGS show. I’m angry now. Very good review though, quite clever. 😊
Me too Im so angry you know what in going to do? in going to buy a frying pan on amazon but wait theres more Im going to return it but i will put a note on it so when they open it up the note will say this pan is better than ring of power get it cuz its round but if we all do it then it will catch on and make the news
whos with me?!