Medical examiner on woman's body found 'melted' into a sofa: 'It's unfathomable' | Banfield
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Lacey Fletcher was found dead, with her remains “melted” into a sofa, after what prosecutors alleged was neglect from her parents. Retired forensic pathologist Dr. Michelle Dupree joins NewsNation’s “Banfield” to discuss.
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This has to be one of the sickest cases of neglect & abuse ever😢😢😢
I know...How can you just let a person rot especially your own child..The Medical Examiner said the stench in the house was awful it was bugs flying all around...How can folks live like this..Sad
This and the Gabriel Hernandez case..
The smell of rotting flesh is putrid. IAM a nurse and bedsores smell rotten
@@nancydavis4618 I was wondering about the smell, too. How did nothing leak out?
@@elainecongo3827I couldn't live like that omg so sick 😢
The torture and torment this poor girl must have suffered is unimaginable! This is demonic behavior!
demonic indeed
The church they went to was totally demon possessed. This is the only explanation to it. I was shown this over 40 years ago. The girl just slipped thru all the cracks.
Absolutely demonic
100%
No words 💔 😢
RIP Lacey....you are free from your hellish existence that you did not deserve!!
These parents were able to keep up the outside appearance of their home,the meticulous maintenance of their yard and spotless driveway, but not feed and care for their own flesh and blood.
Mom can’t recall her own daughter’s age. Serious red flag.
EDIT: I stand corrected. I’m 54 and have no dementia that I know of, yet I often have to do the math to recall my own son’s exact age. So it may be a small red flag but not a serious one.
A Mother doesn't know her child's age...Sad..They just neglected her
tells me one thing, they didn't celebrate her birthdays. heartbreaking
what does she care, at this point she's just been part of the scenery.
Omg really they didn't no her age what
Wow
You can tell by her poor matted hair how long she had been abused and neglected. RIP Lacey and may your abusers be brought to swift justice.
This is horrendous. How dare the church members rally around the parents?
Baptists aren’t genuine Christian’s.
Satan goes to church for his converts.
Some of the most evil people hide behind the church it's obviously happening in this situation.
standard anti-christian atheist nonsense. blame the person not the church. do you think the church people went in the house and saw her melting into the couch?
@@barbrothers2 why rally around them at this point?
For parents to treat their own daughter this way is heart breaking. These parents should be punished to the full extent of the law, I feel sad for their daughter to be treated this way and the neglect she had to endure before she passed.
The neglect from the Adult Protective Services too they should all be fired and sent to prison! His their daughter from everyone didn’t this girl have some kind of social life.
no......she hadn't left the house in 12 years@@LoverofSunflowernBees
They're not parents. They're monsters.
@@cindyrodriguez380 The parents are satanists.
Full extent 😮
I got one decubitus ulcer stage 3 after cancer, chemo, and radiation and let me tell you... It was awful and painful. It took a year and a half for me to heal. This girl had several. I can't imagine how painful it was for her. This case is so horrible. I don't believe anything her parents say about anything. Poor Lacy.
@niania7022: I hope you are doing well.
@@lilybond6485 I am doing much better. Thank you. I just really cried over this young girl having several. Until I had one I had heard about them but never imagined how painful they are or how dangerous.
@@niania7022 prayers to you.
@@meladeekunkel5880 Thank you!
@@lilybond6485 I am, thank you! My heart breaks for this young lady. She's suffered tremendously!
LET THE CHURCH WHO STUCK UP FOR HER PARENT’S SEE THAT PICTURE……..HORRIFIC 😢😢😢🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
They’re in denial. Baptists aren’t reborn types.
The most toxic is the pope. Let's see...is he a virgin? I think not.
all those nice catholics... smh
@@kimmyfreak200 sadly they’re not part of that specific church, apparently
@@kimmyfreak200 Thanks 👍
She ate the couch cushions bc she was hungry and her evil “parents” didn’t bother to feed her. 💔 RIP Lacey. You’re no longer suffering.
Well why could a 36 year old not just leave the house or get her own food. I did not expect my Mom to feed me at 36 years old. There is something missing from this story.
@@JAM661She couldn't walk. They were supposed to be taking care of her
@@JAM661 apparently she had locked in syndrome, where she couldn’t move her limbs or even walk however, I heard rumors that this isn’t true, and that she actually was paralyzed from the waist down because obviously she was able to use her arms to eat the couch foam that was found in her stomach. she also had severe autism, and even when she was in school she acted immature and liked Disney. But all of her former classmates said that she was pretty normal and also very intelligent. She was just a little bit immature for her age. I’m just wondering where everything went wrong like when did she sit on that couch and just never get up? Also, why didn’t anyone ask about her or wonder whatever happened to her? Where were the doctors that were seeing her? How did no one see or smell anything? So many questions
@JAM661 she was disabled.
@@JAM661SMDH. K would suggest that you do a lil more research on this case. Lacey's disability progressed quickly which lead her to become completely dependent on her parents. If they knew they didn't want to care for her, they couldve easily signed her into a facility that wouldve cared for her. Ive worked in healthcare for almost 3 decades and am experienced with caring for people like Lacey . I have been and currently am still a private caregiver. I cant even begin to imagine the kind of pain that poor young lady endured. 😩😳Do u honestly think that a 36 yr old adult in their right mind would voluntarily lay for YEARS in their own urine & feces and allow themselves to literally ROT to the point where their skin falls off of their bones with maggots crawling in their hair and in their body?? U think she intentionally laid there stuck to a leather couch starving herself for YEARS?? If you haven't seen the pictures, id recommend that you do. Maybe its just me because of the kind of work i do, but i just cant understand for the life of me how any HUMAN BEING......especially a parent could just simply carry on and live their day to day lives as if they dont see and SMELL their only child as she lay their contracted and intertwined into a hole in a couch. Im sure if she were able to get up and go get her own food, she surely wouldn't have resorted to eating her own feces along with the foam frim the couch🤬🤬 .This just really sickens me that anyone could blame this disabled young lady 😡😩🤷🏾♀️
As a human being, I can't understand this. As a MOTHER,I really can't understand this. I'd give my life for my child(ren). How can anyone end their child's life? In such a horrific way no less?! Just wtf! 😢
Seriously. It makes me mad and sad to think someone could do that to another human. Let alone their own child. I’m so heartbroken to think about what that poor woman had to suffer 😢
That is definitely not a mother or father. Those are demonically inhabited humans full to the core Satanic.
Those parents are not OK mentally, sane parents don't neglect their children.
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 How, can ANY PARENT, A MOTHER allow, due such thing to her own daughter?! I'm so sorry Lacey. I'm so sorry. Rest in peace
Pure evil.
If I had to guess her parents were severely broken human beings. I have a feeling their parents were quite awful to them when they were growing up. Doesn't excuse their actions at all but it's the only thing I can think of that would cause a parent to treat their child so horrifically
We can't understand cause we aren't like that. Those are monsters. Very sick people.
This definitely 100% involved demon possession.
someone on here said that her mother had dementia, and had a full time carer....
This is disturbing on so many levels.
Thank you, Dr Dupre, for doing this very difficult work. You give victims a voice. I hope you are doing well and wish you peace and strength going forward. This awareness will save other disabled people. ❤
She didn’t do anything and couldn’t answer the questions!
Wtf are you even talking about? Nobody said anything about her actually working on Lacey's case. They were thanking her for her past work as a forensic pathologist, medical examiner and police detective.
I don't normally get emotional but I cry for this young lady, parents were church goers? just shows you how looks can be deceiving.
RIP Lacey you are free now.
Religion doesn’t make a person “good”. Some of the worst people throughout history have been devout believers in a god. Goodness comes from empathy. Some people just lack it.
@@tastyredsauce Not devout believers in God, but religion. Big difference. The in dwelling of the Holy Spirit wouldn’t have allowed these demons to treat their daughter this way.
Religion is often a disguise for horrific evil. Look at circumcision.
Religion appears to be the root of all evil in this world. Didn't surprise me at all her parents were active in their church, I actually expected it!
It’s so heartbreaking. I hope God doesn’t have mercy on them and I hope they get to feel and experience everything this poor woman had to endure. Parents are supposed to love unconditionally. 😢
My God!! Can you believe NOT calling the ambulance when someone cannot move and needs medical attention YEArs BEFORE!!!???
The 911 call sounds like he is pressing on a cushion on an easy chair , certainly not a body , this is beyond horrific , RIP Lacey you are out of the hell hole and you cant call these parents they are not fit to be labelled anything than monsters imo
They probably are.
The 911 dispatcher knew it was fake it sounded like. When the husband says 'Yeah' he almost sounds irritated & you can hear the wife's fake cpr breathing pattern change for a split second. They are so depraved for doing what they did, & to top it off fake their daughter's sound of death. That's beyond sick!
That's fake as hell....no CPR....sick puppies n the world
On top of that there’s physical signs in and on a body that we medical professionals can see if a person has actually had CPR.
How could they do that to another living creature let alone to their daughter?! 😮
This is very disturbing. A graphic warning should be considered on this video
For real. I was not looking at the screen and then I looked back at it and I was just like GOT DAMN I never seen anything like that on the news before
I was shocked also.
I agree! They didn't warn us at all about this.
No kidding, she flat out says she can't show the photo then proceeds to show the photo.
@maximumcaffeine6003 she didnt show the worst of these. They didn't show the wounds with holes in her skin down to the bones. I'm a nurse and this made me absolutely sick to my stomach. Worst I've ever seen and I've seen some nasty stuff.
Sadly this is not a unique case. This happens more frequently than one might think. The constant pain & discomfort she endured is disturbing.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
I have just gotta say as a parent that loves my children dearly, this is one of the most vile, horrendous, and sickening cases of Abuse I have ever heard. If my 1 yr old pooped in the diaper, you can smell it, and I immediately change it. But these people let her lay in excrement. And then these disgusting parents had the audacity to go out in public, dining, going to parties, having fun, and to church and pretent to be good Christians and good parents, all the while abusing their daughter for years. I hope these people will be in general population in prison, and I hope the guards let the general population know what they did to their daughter. Sorry, but not sorry.
As a Christian, I'm disgusted & horrified the church backing the parents.
Maybe Because they’re white
@@chinadoll534 No the church backs their own regardless of color. Stop making things about race when they aren't.
It's not a church, not a real one. The church is were the demonic problems came from.
Exactly!! 😖
@@chinadoll534 Satan is an equal opportunity employer. He doesn't care about the color, he hates all and uses people wherever he can. Just by your maybe question about color shows you are not born to spirit and still walking in the flesh. That is why Christ came to overcome the world, the flesh and the devil. Be careful about how you assess others with your flesh talk because Satan is roaming and you are a flashing alert signal for him.
May they never have a moments peace after the horrors they subjected their daughter to .
The world is getting older and people are getting sicker, as in sickcos .
In this day and age. How can a person just lay on the couch and die and no one around notice like wtf?
That was my question when I first heard about this.
I know. Sounds like they always wanted her to die because she was a burden on them. So they avoided her at all costs. The malignant demonic narcissists.
She was in some sort of a catatonic state, her parents noticed they chose to neglect her!
She had a disability and required assistance from her parents. They neglected her.
@@melistasy do you know exactly what her disability was?
“We can’t show the photos” Precedes to show the photos.
They blurred out the worse parts...
@@cecileroy557 still showed it. MSM misinformation.
What the fuck is wrong with this news channel showing that disgusting photo
Yep. that was shocking for me to see when they said they weren't going to show them!
@@HappyTexan52 fr!! they’ve never shown anything like that on the news before i was shocked and mortified
This is just beyond anything I’ve heard any human go through while alive, it’s absolutely staggering.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day?
wait till you hear junko furuta's case....
(EXTREMELY TW WARNING FOR THAT CASE IF YOUR SENSITIVE DO NOT SEARCH THAT CASE)
@@MetryTwintailsBoth are absolutely horrible, it astounds me how evil some people are.
@@Champion_of_Vlaakith Fr, i was in depression after searching that case
@@MetryTwintails I'd genuinely rather go through what Junko did than what Lacey did. And Junko's case made me feel physically ill (when many true crime cases don't)
This is horrific case of abuse. This case has nothing on silence of the lambs. She literally curled up into the fetal position. She probably was so depressed that she couldn't move and no one rescued her.
Another medical expert speculated that leg muscles can atrophy( shrivel) thru lack of use & lead to someone being unable to move at all. But that's no excuse for not getting Lacey help or a part time Nurse or carer to help with the minimum needs of bathing & feeding. There was a pair of agoraphobic & depressed siblings in the UK years ago who refused to leave their rooms for 10 years , who ended up unable to walk for that reason. Their parents had been too ashamed to get help , but finally cracked.
@@sarahholland2600 unable to walk, sure, but they still reposition enough to not get severe bed sores and necrosis. It's almost impossible to not reposition, we do it in our sleep even, so how did she not?
Maggots were eating her flesh *while alive* she had been UNABLE to move even just to reposition for some time already and that's incredibly unlikely from mental illness alone. I wonder if she was injured somehow and *couldn't* get up and they didn't believe her or just didn't care.
@@JoeyisDREADful If you want to disagree with the autopsy report go ahead. It wasnt just being in 1 position all the time it was lack of use of her legs. Her parents told the Dr when she was 21 that she refused to leave the couch then ignited his advice to move her to a facility. There was a similar UK case where 2 siblings suffering from depression refused to leave their rooms for 15 years. Both lost the use of their legs due to atrophy thru lack of use & movement. Their mother eventually cracked & sought help.
@@sarahholland2600 No, that UK case they had muscle atrophy. Lacey had severe bed sores which are only cause if you don't reposition, you're the one ignoring the autopsy.
@@JoeyisDREADful The autopsy of Lacey literally states muscle atrophy. I doubt you've read it. Her parents also told the Dr when she was 21, that she refused to leave the couch and only one side of it shows an impression in crime scene pics. In fact she'd worn a 12inch deep hole where she sat that was half full of urine & feces. She couldnt move after a time. How long that was is not known.
To allow someone you love that’s your own child to endure this suffering is criminal, she was left to rot while still alive. If she had locked in syndrome then how could she eat couch foam and what it was covered in. The maggots did better in keeping Lacey’s sores clean than her own parents. They should have got help immediately when she quit using the bathroom.
"Unfathomable" doesn't even begin to describe this... 😢 No human being should ever go through this. God please be with her and welcome her into Your Kingdom. ❤
Yes😢
My dad had a neighbor who was in the Navy, he was dead in his house, for a month, melted into his bed, and the cat that he had in the room died as well. Nobody came to check up on him ever not even his own brother.
Tragic.
Such a hateful, miserable world!
Why didn’t your dad check on him?
how did the cat die?
@@Hotcheetowithdrawals It likely didn't have anything to eat or drink. Which means the cat didn't eat the owner's body even when he was dead and it was starving.
I honestly am so scared of my partner and I dying one day and our 3 cats being left to die.
Oh my gosh this is absolutely Horrible, poor lady. No that was not them doing C.P.R
I am freaking speechless!! RIP Lacey
CPR??!! It wouldn't have helped her anyway due to the condition of her body.As a retired nurse, I think she was dead about a week and a half, maybe a few days longer. It appears the parents only called 911 because the smell of her dead body was overwhelming. I can't imagine the smell of her body when she was alive! WOW!! I can't understand why they wouldn't get her help, maybe a care facility. I know, in my heart ❤, I would have given her all the love in the world had she been my patient 😇. God Bless you sweet girl.
We need more people like you in this world. ❤
The smell would have been out of this world. She was covered in feces,urine, and rotting flesh. This is unreal.
A week and a half? No. She would have had way more decomposition. Especially sitting in her own waste. She still had noticeable lividity on her back. Especially, considering the condition she died in, she would have had far more decomposition than you see in the autopsy picture.
If they did CPR from looking at her I think the cracking would have been heard over the phone.
The autopsy report establishes that Lacey's body hadn't begun to decompose whatsoever, the injuries and insect activities all happened antemortem, which makes everything so much worse. It's one thing to let your dead child rot, but letting this happen to your living child is vile beyond imagination.
This is the one for me. This case has given me nightmares since I found out about it. How those parents could do that to any human is beyond me.
and those church people who came to show support for these monsters..where were they while Lacey was being murdered.
In “church”
At which point did she first get on to the couch and remain without coming off...what made her not get off? Use the loo? Periods? Nobody called to help her? A carer?
No periods at that wasted away body mass. She's obviously anorexic.
I read in some of the investigation reports that they found that her results for Corona test were positive.
Perhaps she was sick and tired because of the flu and fever and she did not get a health care or good nutrition during her illness, so she remained on the couch suffering from illness and hunger until she died.
This is so sick and horrible, May she rest in peace now 💔
@@BuildMeBrand who didn't have covid?
@@joywebster2678Me 🦦
In her condition, not getting health care, treatment, and nutrition makes the simplest type of influenza fatal
@@BuildMeBrand
She was longer on the couch than corona
So disgusting and yes, distressing, is the perfect word learning of this
One of the challenges we have today is avoiding the realities of life; the entirety of life includes challenges and the end. Life is the sum total of that experience, not just the pleasant moments. Thank you for covering this critical part of life and drawing attention to the ways people can be neglected.
Journalist says "I can't show you the photos" yet the first thing they show us is a gruesome picture and leave it up on the screen for the longest damn time. Couldn't eat my breakfast at that.
But they said melted into the sofa ,it doesn't look like she was melted, but why was she naked??? Or did they take it off in the medical room. I hope the parents didn't do some weird stuff makes me cringe.
This is absolutely gut wrenching, my heart is broken for this young woman. My prayers go out to the first responders and all law enforcement that they get the help they need to heal from this tragedy 🙏
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these two
are not fit
to take care of a plant
or a goldfish.!
EVIL.!
MONSTERS.!
unforgivable.!
unfathomable.!
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#truthseekersunite
#justice
~claire~
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Dear God, keep Lacey comforted & bless her soul.
Rest in peace sweet girl. 😢
Did God help her to not feel the pain, hunger, etc?
There is no punishment to fit this crime
OMFG 😳😢 This is absolutely heartbreaking 💔 No excuse for this!
This almost happened to my intellectually disabled sister. Our mother left her completely alone and didnt put her in a day program. She could make her own meals and take showers but started to have major mental health issues from not being interacted with. She developed schizoid symptoms/a delusional world she created for herself based on her favorite TV shows. The 2nd year she was angry, depressed and resistant and started having full blown scary hallucinations. By the third year she refused to take showers and would only lay in forward position in her bed, wouldnt eat or wear clothes and deficated on herself. My grade school aged siblings were trying to care for her, but you would have to drag her out of bed. She was going to die if something didnt happen. This whole progression is what happens to humans when they are severely isolated.
Our mother asked me to take over her care and put my sister alone on a plane with her flight attendant friend to come live with me. She stood on the seat and screamed the entire 4 hour flight. It was not easy getting her to wear clothes and eat again. The biggest thing that helped was day program and just having someone there who loves her to talk to her. She has permanent schizophrenia that she takes antipsychotics for. My guess is that something similar happened to Lacey, but she didnt have anyone to rescue her. When I tried to research services like day programs in Louisianna, I couldnt find any. Its not an excuse for what her parents did, but Im sure it played a role.
What happened to Lacey isnt an isolated event. There is widespread abuse and neglect of people with intellectual disabilities across the nation. Even here in California where services are mandated I cant find any services for my sister. Even though Im sick, having medical emergencies and struggling to care for her alone the Regional Center is refusing to place her. Services for people with disabilities have significantly decreased and disappeared altogether. My sister suffered similar neglect in CA group homes as well as a massive brain injury no one told me about or took her to a doctor for. Now she cant talk or take care of herself at all. I can think of 3 people like Lacey who were neglected to death by California vendors and can tell you it happens all the time. Many parents are aging, sick and dying with no services or solutions for their adult children with disabilities. The news doesnt report on this huge humanitarian crisis, so no one is talking about it.
So sad
Oh my. My daughter has autism and the first paragraph of your comment, we just went through an spell of this. Med changes, alot of prayer, and thankfully it has has gotten better. Your post has given me thought and pause. Thanks. We live very rural but we do have day service care here. ❤
@@lizacampbell2183 my sister is currently not in a day program but we have a routine. I am very aware of her need for social interaction, so I try to make sure I talk to her a lot, but it is very hard to be her everything, especially with my health issues. I worked with many kids on the spectrum and know interacting is hard for them, which puts them even more at risk for social isolation. Sometimes it seems like they dont want to connect but they do want connection and need it just the same as anyone. People with ASD usually need very predictable routines. A day program would be great. Just make sure to talk to her, give her hugs and check in throughout the day. No one can be completely on their own.
I'm guessing Lacy had her own space and her parents didnt interact with her at all and completely forgot about her. They never called emergency services and went on a 2 day trip when she was on the verge death, so Im sure you would never do that to your child.
Thank you for shedding light on the lack of services for people who have medical issues. If only something had been available for this girl. 😢 Even when services are out there, waiting lists can be very long. I have a senior relative under the care of another relative. The care giver relative now has huge health issues too. I do not have caregiver rights which is upsetting because I have long advocated for those with health or ability problems. Senior centers are not great there so… it’s scary. Every person near the relative is doing everything in their power and within constraints of the law but the person can still function on his own so…. ( maybe not as I would like but within the law) so we are trying to support the ones shouldering the caregiving in the family. At this point two relatives are moved to live within shouting distance and eye view but none are without their own problems. I fear for the younger ones giving their health up because our system is failing them all. I have a young friend who is going into this type of work of caregiving/nursing but we need many, many more. As our population ages, it’s getting harder. For those younger with issues, I don’t know what to do except encourage people to reach out to neighbors, senior centers, or any program you can to offer to help. Cook meals, be a friend, help with chores, a break or day out, run errands or anything at all you can do! Just being there! Know your neighbors. Care. Love! Help others. If people do not answer the door, how about leaving a kind note? Simple things can make a huge difference. It can bring a senior out to just talk a minute. A daily chat with a friendly face. A two minute chat. Are you okay today? Look, the sun is out. A flower bloomed in your yard. Pretty huh? Love works wonders. Thank you for your post. Sending you ❤ and giant hugs! 🌺🌸🌼🥀🌺🌸🌼🌻🌈🌻🌼🌸🌺🥀🌻🌷I hope you can find some help. Is there Respite service near you? Blessings to you for being strong enough to take this on. Sending hope as well. Lots of hope.
@@jcook2433 actually, if you look at the US Bureau of Labor, the number one biggest area of job growth is in health & human services, particularly caregiving. The govt knows full well about this issue but are silent about it, except to brag about "job growth." That job growth is a direct result of the humanitarian crisis happening with people with disabilities due in large part to an aging population. At the same time women, who are most likely to be caregivers, are dying from treatable diseases and medical gaslighting. In fact 40-60% of the homeless crisis is people with disabilities who are dying in the streets. The US has a huge humanitarian crisis happening with people with disabilities, not just people who are born disabled and aging but young people dying from a lack of adequate healthcare after going broke, disabled and homeless trying to get healthcare, which is the trajectory I am currently on.
All these issues are related and complicated by rising cost of housing from a housing shortage combined with a minimum wage that has not increased since 2009. So while the govt is fully aware of all of these issues and tries to make the growing need for caregivers sound like a good thing, no one can afford to do this extremely difficult work for the minimum wage public and private programs want to pay. As a Democrat, to say I am frustrated with my party is an understatement. They know the problems. They just dont want to pay for it. Theyd rather transfer all the federal tax funds over to weapons manufacturers for foreign wars.
We need some good people in govt, because right now, only a very small handful of them care about people with disabilities at all and no one is talking about it. The only way this changes is with public outrage and media coverage, but the corporate media would rather talk about "job growth" than the full blown humanitarian crisis thats driving it.
Unfortunately I have seen this in elder neglect as a nurse and it’s horrifying
I was a traveling nurse in California. I was beyond stunned when I found I had two nursing home patients both of whom had bilateral hip decubiti that I could put my fist in. I could see the bone!
When I had first started nursing I worked for 6 months in my local nursing home. We weren't short staffed because the nursing home had exactly as much staff as the state said they had to. Right. But while I was there we had a good admin. We worked like hell but we took good care of our people. If we had a patient get past a stage 1 decub we were horrified. "So and so has a decub that's getting worse we need to be sure to give her extra attention."
Working in the hospital I did see worse but still I had never seen anything like that.
It's sad that as a nurse we often are faced with just how horrible people can be to the most defenseless amoung us.
That picture of her on the morgue table oh my god. Even though half of it is blurred it’s still so terrible. Rest in Peace Lacey.
I don't care when anybody says these parents knew that she needed to be moved 😡
I have been a CNA since 1996. # 1.Rule you turn your patient every 2 hours. They are pathetic parents , actually, they are monsters 😡
I’ve worked 30+ yrs in nursing homes and I’ve seen this on some patients and it takes years for the ulcers to get to a point where you can see bone. I’ve seen maggots but this is someone’s daughter in their own home
That’s horrific that this actually happens in nursing homes. Wtf.
@@ApacheMagic yes bc they’re elderly, they can’t move ,they’re bedridden, they have co-morbidities, they’re incontinent,they can’t eat like a normal active healthy human, food in nursing homes isn’t very nutrient rich. All sorts of reasons . I could write a whole book. I’ve seen wounds that have eaten away sacrums and buttocks down to the bone and maggots have been in them. Just bc they’re in nursing homes doesn’t mean they’re in tip top healthy condition, quite the opposite. as much as drs nurses carers pharmacists physios etc try it’s not always the best outcome
I think this has bee put on RUclips to torture us. I need to throw my laptop out.
if they ever showed those photos we'd likely faint... not easy to horrify medical examiners... and when they even cry u know this is bad in the worst way... surprised the judge dismissed the charges...that horrified and mortified me... justice for Lacey
Just dreadful just appalling lack of empathy the jury must send a message
There’s no jury. The trial conviction of 2nd degree murder was later thrown out by a judge due to a technical error. They finally recharged them 1 1/2 years later negotiating a deal of manslaughter.
As a nurse who has unfortunately seen decubes this likely would have taken a few months for them to form.
One week for a stage 3. Nobody was turning her every 2 hours.
I did not realize it was so quick. I am assuming the conditions hastened it as well. Such a horrific situation.@@todayslist37737
This like something you’d hear from Fulton County jail, or from someone who was just forgotten and left to rot in a cell alone. The fact her parents just left her there and were completely numb to her pain and suffering is just horrendous
Honestly I still believe what happened was that they gave her a traumatic brain injury somehow or she wasn't ALLOWED to leave the couch until eventually she had lost the ability to stand up due to malnourishment and infections, etc. (They had claimed she had "decided" to stay on the couch, but even if she had, interventions would have been possible. It's very hard to stay in one place like that willingly if you are able bodied with normal urges.) And so they didn't want to get her any kind of help that whole time that she lived on the couch because the facts about whatever it is they did to her might be revealed in the process. They didn't want to take her to a hospital or have in-home care for her because questions would be asked about why she was in a state unable to move freely or why she was starving. And they starved her to make sure she would die before anyone found out what they had already done to her before that. And then once she died from infections and starvation, they decided it might still be too suspicious or difficult to get rid of the body without reporting in some kind of way. Either that, or she was a victim of untreated early onset dementia or something similar before all this happened. She was older than most children are when they develop that, but it's not outside of possibility that that's what happened to leave her in such a vulnerable state at the mercy of her parents. (Supposedly she had been functional before a change took place.) Like many others, I feel indescribable disgust and misery when I think about the horrific suffering that Lacey endured, and the mystery around why and how exactly this happened will probably haunt me until all of the facts have come to light, if they ever actually do. I want it to be more innocent or unintentional somehow than the aforementioned, but I can't see how it could be. The smell alone would have meant they'd have to leave her completely alone in that house the vast majority of the time in order for it to go on like that, so I believe that's what they did.
This is so hard for me to understand. If she was starved and had no water, she would be dead, month top. Why would you even call the cops? No one would've known. Then the cops are called and they don't try to clean up first? It's crazy, and I really would like to hear their story
I can't believe no one cared to check in on her. The whole town should be asking themselves why.
Thing is they are well liked in that town, hardly anyone spoke to any reporters some said they didn’t even know she had a daughter or they last saw her when she was like in high school….mom works in courthouse I believe…. I wonder why no one wants to speak up just a couple that’s their neighbors but they haven’t lived there that long
This is horrifying. Such sadness.
Only God knows what other horrific abuses that happened to this dear soul. I know that life is not fair but man, she deserved so much better.
honestly, she probably refused a lot of care from the get go....perhaps she was on the autism spectrum and kept to herself and did not want to be bothered by anyone....that is no excuse to not s pull the panic button if you see your adult dtr not eating or drinking or even trying to use the br for several days.....decubitus ulcers can actually come on quite quickly if you are malnourished and don't move....
@@leelauralshut up if you don’t know. She didn’t refuse she was denied food. Very ignorant comment
@Melissababy155 Geez take it easy! Not everyone has heard the whole story!
@@crispy876 sorry
The first thing I think of when I see cases like this is-
-If you don’t love your kid to the point of abusing them, why not just put them up for adoption?
-If you don’t want to have kids because you don’t like them, why not just prevent pregnancy?
-If you don’t want to be in a relationship anymore, why just split instead of killing them off?
All hypotheticals here. It has to do with a mix of sadism, narcissism, and greed. Once Lacey had become locked-in, they could have done the more decent thing and sent her to live someplace. It still would have made them look like bad parents, but the criticism would have been much more divided.
I think the reasoning for their actions was much more sinister-ableism. They used generalized beliefs about neurological issues to justify what they did. They didn’t stop to even think of their child as a human being with a personality. And we come full circle-Lacey could have ended up in better circumstances away from them through the lesser evil of being placed in a home.
Surely, the STENCH of the house must have clung to the parents' clothes? How could people NOT have smelled it?
That was my thought as well
Exactly my thoughts: I believe perhaps these “parents” probably never went into the living room and probably stayed in a certain part of the house away from Lacey. Maybe they were just immune to the smell but I highly doubt that. The coroner said it was so bad that police officers were puking in the yard. These people went to church and no one smelled that on them? What if other people were aware of this but never went to the police!? No one ever went to the front door and smelled it or saw Lacey? Unbelievable
Absolutely not CPR. I completely concur with Dr. D. impo
I dont know how that poor girl survived. Its all so unbelievable. The whole thing is just so unfathomable. So horrific and sad. So unfair
I have a ton of questions. What about family members? I mean no one inquired about Lacey's whereabouts? She obviously wasn't receiving medical and mental health care. This should be easy to prove. So many parents abuse their kids under the guise of pulling them out due to "homeschool".
Not sure if her parents even had close family. Lacey was an only child and it baffles me how NOBODY asked about her or checked on her. No doctors calls no dentist calls NOTHING. It’s insane and the fact that no one smelled that stench for 12 years is hard to believe.
@1987 The thing is that people did ask about her, but she kind of just slipped through the cracks.
She was an only child and we haven't heard about any other family members, so it seems it was just the family of 3.
Her parents took her out of school at 16 and stopped letting her have friends over, so she hadn't really spoken to former classmates in a long time.
The neighbors did notice she stopped being seen around the neighborhood in her early 20s, but they assumed she simply moved away to start her own life. Which would make sense considering the age she was at. One neighbor said that a few years ago he did, in passing, ask her father what Lacey was up to these days and was expecting to be told that she was working somewhere and maybe as married and had a family of her own. He said that the father said "Oh no, she still lives with us" but wouldn't elaborate further. Which is a little weird, but, you have to be realistic. Hearing that someone's grown child still lives with them is a big leap to "I bet she's trapped on the couch and being starved!"
As for doctors or dentists reaching out...maybe they did, but how often have you gotten a postcard or email that "it's time for your appointment!" from a dentist you haven't been to in years? Did any of them ever call the cops when you didn't make the appointment? No, because, people switch doctors all the time. They move, they switch jobs, their insurances changes and that provider is no longer in network, and so they don't come back. About the only doctor I'd hold responsible is the one that parents went to in the early 2010s and told that Lacey wouldn't get off the couch. He actually had reason to believe that something was wrong, since he'd been told something was wrong, so if anyone should have suspected it might be more than just she's choosing not to make an appointment because she moved away, or has another doctor, etc.
This...the Turpin family...what/who else? WHY in the absolute F would people treat their children like this? Unfathomable.
My god, I've seen pictures of the couch after her poor tiny body was removed but this was the first time seeing the pic of her on the couch and the pic of her body laid out at the morgue. I wonder when they released them.
Same. I only saw them recently, and apparently the coroner wants more of thosr photos released to the public.
So disturbing, the humans that can do this just pure evil , no other words to describe these parents. Satan is definitely at work here.
The "fake" CPR sounds like a "toilet plunger" !
Literally shocked me with that picture of the poor girl. Honestly put up a warning, how parents can do this to their own kids is beyond me.
I hear the loudest part is the couch springs and his heavy breathing. I don't hear any pause in the compressions for the obligatory two breaths. Chest compressions alone will not save anyone's life and life is incompatible with only assisted breathing, you absolutely need both to survive!
I was a nurse and its extremely tiring to be doing compressions like that with no relief....don't think it was real....
I could be wrong-it may have changed back to compressions and two breaths, but for a time they were training regular people to just do compressions and no breaths. I don’t know what in the world their reasoning for that was. By regular people I mean regular civilians, people who are not first responders or medical personnel.
@@itchysheets1222actually the reason was that most people don't have some kind of oral barrier and so they aren't willing to do CPR. So they went to teaching just chest compressions which people generally would do. The lungs actually have enough oxygen so that just compressions will still help for about a minute or two. And it's still a stop gap because 9 times out of ten you need the defibulatar and you need it fast.
Okay well the part about compressions alone not saving a life is NOT true.
They taught the exactly opposite in Red Cross CPR class, that if all you can do is compresions and tilt the head, that is enough.
However, they weren't even doing compressions. They were faking it.
This is seriously one of the saddest things I have ever seen in my life
Lacey had a horrific death. And apparently a horrific life. I pray she's finally at peace. Rest In Paradise Lacey🌻
The picture is blurred and i feel sick i cant even look a it. This in my opinion is worst than just shooting someone. This has to be one of the worst case of torture and murder.. we are Talking of years of neglect 😢😤
RIP. Unforgettable.
My HS sweet heart was left unmoved for 43 days in a comma at OHSU, the neglect in that time alone is unfathomable. Inages i will never forget seeing.
OHSU Has A Lot Of Problems.
This is how my dad died while in hospital in Washington State
I am so sorry
....what in the holy hell is going on with parents nowadays. The torture we are hearing about it years ~ years of being chained.
Hell is on earth, and manmade.
This happened a couple of years ago. Doesnt make it less horrific.
Parents need to understand that you arent a good parent by virtue of being one. Far too many parents today think you know all things and you know better than those without kids because you simply are a parent. No, you learn to be a good parent. Its not handed to you on a silver platter. You make choices to be a good parent. Her parents clearly did not choose to be good parents.
I feel the exact same way. Not having children, every time I hear something like this, I question why people even have children, and think about why I haven't. I wonder why anyone would even bring a child into this world of evil. Sometimes, it seems to me, to be a selfish act. I will never stop thinking about this. I want to throw up, not for the gruesome details, but because of the evil.
Doesn't sound like a breathing pattern. Sounds like someone pushing on something. The whole thing is so disturbing. I don't understand why her parents kept ignoring it.
This case is especially sickening!! I couldn't believe it when I first read about it! Edit 18 seconds later: HOLY ISH I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE SHOWING THE BODY! TV NEVER EVEN SHOWS A BODY IN A FIELD WITH NO VISIBLE SIGNS OF TRAUMA. 😳
I think Lacey is in a better place free of pain, we can only hope there is real Justice in the Universe beyond what our courts can provide.
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Unfortunately not only are we to the point that people are like this but the courts don't care. It is total antichrist lawlessness now. Please repent People!
That is so damn strange how do you not know your child’s age or remember how old you were when you had them and do some simple MATH! Just shows how much they didn’t give a F about her.
I can't even believe this. How does this even happen? Lacey's parents deserve to sit in jail for the rest of their lives. Lacey, I hope your beautiful soul is free in heaven, and you are finally at peace. Im so sorry this happened to you, and I can't even imagine what it would've been like. Rest easy beautiful
Heinous & horrifying ... 🤯
if she's that skinny and small at like the age of 30 yk she was starved for A HUGE period of time!!
This is one of the worst cases I have ever seen.
The parents are so lucky this isn’t back in the day when things were an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth, because believe you me they’d go through exactly what Lacey went through and then some. Creeps 😠
I can’t believe they’re showing these graphic photos of her!
How did they live with the smell of feces and rotting flesh? How this poor woman suffered!
God rest the precious soul of this young woman. I believe she is safely resting in the arms of our Lord Jesus now.
Oh she was a believer?
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Where was he when she needed him? For some reason believers never answer that question…
@marianparoo1544 I will answer that question. We were given freewill. And Satan is ruler of earth. That should be obvious. God is only love. He doesn't do bad things to people. Man does that to man.
Amen 🙏🏻
This is horrific
The doctor is correct. I have seen those wounds before as I have treated nursing home patients for physical therapy. Its usually neglect and not re positioning patients every 2 hours in which constant pressure cuts off blood flow to the tissue and it dies. As a result you get bed sores or ulcers. It can be prevented by getting patients up and turning them frequently in bed to restore blood flow. I have seen wounds down to the sacrum and coccyx and done debridement. Skin gone and I can stick my finger and not only see the bone but touch it. It takes forever to heal those wounds too. The never moved this poor girl. Hence why she was full of bed sores. Couple that with not feeding her for nutrition well no way for those wounds to heal. Plus sitting in feces and urine also does nothing to allow it to heal and wound is compromised. Such an awful situation.
Apparently the network news nation needs rating so that they're showing die body like that FCC need to fine the network big time after that.
The thing that stands out to me is how the parents have people supporting them from their church. How on earth can you support somebody that does something like this???! My heart just goes out to that woman who endured some serious suffering at the hands of her own flesh & blood. Unfathomable!! 😮
All the church people are the same depravity. I think it is beyond us comprehending it.
The church should be disbanded
Because obviously only monsters live there
Now actually i feel better for lacey she is freed from horrible life, RIP you suffered a lot here, now rest in peace
I have a daughter, can't imagine how could someone do this 💔
Her parents if you even want to call them "parents" should never ever be let out of prison EVER!