Arsenal NEED a Mentality Shift.
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I know some won't like my Liverpool / City classification
Liverpool have won 1 league title in 34 years. Obviously they have the European pedigree, but it's 2 in 40 years
Maybe a bit of recency bias for City, but if we're not allowing City for that reason, we can't have Pool either
Fair if you feel they should switch - I don't feel there's a wrong answer
The only reason city is AND should be first tier imo is simply their sheer strengh in the present , there is literally no team in the world that can beat city in decisive matchs other than Real Madrid (barring the occasional hickups that can happen to any team , no team is perfect...)
I have tot of this when we sold xhaka. I tot we sold xhaka right but now seemingly a tad bit earlier . Decision are decision and I do believe we will get there one day
It was United that surprised me. Used to be top-tier but they have a crumbling stadium, are badly managed (INEOS already clumsy with ETH) and aren’t close to competing in top-tier competitions (and haven’t been for ages). Top talents moving there have seen themselves burnt as a result (it takes two to tango ofc, but environment has to be a factor).
If United is tier 1 by living on past glories, City shouldn't be.
I love your content in general but putting City on the highest tier is absolutely ridiculous. You yourself said it should at least be partly on history of the club. City have none and players only go there now because of Guardiola. He leaves and they certainly won’t have anywhere near that pull or aura. Heck we beat them to Declan rice after just one season of challenging at the top level.
I think for the likes of Smith Rowe, Viera, Nketiah, Nelson, Zincenko, the fuse should be short. We can’t just waste space in the squad for players who we can instantly replace upwards.
But Trossard has demonstrated he is a very valuable asset to the squad.
Those are easy decisons , Trossard is a difficult one , that's why he chose him for the example...
Trossard is a vital part of the squad. Financially it makes zero sense to sell him and we have other assets that need moving on first.
Fax, honestly if trossard saw out his contract and left on a free I wouldn’t even complain. He would have done his service.
"we have other assets that need moving on first"
You mean there's many failed Arteta signings and players who he gave extended contracts to who desperately need to leave right?
@@BrianConlon-ng5bw like who brother
Those that needs moving on might not have a market
@@johnfurey3593 Zinchenko, Nketiah, Marquinos, Jesus, Partey, Tomiyasu, RN, Tavares, Kiwior, Vieria and Lokonga after it's taken him 4 years to finally shift Elneny and Cedric
Trust the process
We don’t have any other player like trossard
Agreed but the hypothetical includes us signing a superstar forward who provides the same qualities he does
I don’t think you watched the video.
Yes, we could have mudryk now
We will after we buy one
Bro trying to sneak rashford into 'dream' signing😂😂
I would love him. Better for us than Osimhen
That was done with awareness and some irony, class
Trossard the only player showing Winner Mentality in the dire situation. And we sell him because we get money 😃. Very Sensible thought process 😊
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I get the point your making but trossard is a woeful example, you can’t replace what he brings as an option for anywhere near 25M, and the constant mentions that you think we should move on from Kiwior it’s seems like you miss what the likes of him, trossard, Jorginho bring when they play/ the fact they are good bench options, we can’t suddenly have 17 players who are both unreal and willing to regularly be on the bench, some players in our squad will be 7 out of 10s, and they are far better than Eddie, esr, Nelson (proved that the past 18 months). If you said sell zinny, Partey id get that
Agree @Wayne with both the £££ asked /demanded for Trossard in hypothetical and the speed with which various players need to be moved. I can see Trossard still being in our squad but Jesus / Partey / OZinch / etc long gone. That attitude Wayne stresses for high quality players prepared to play off the bench is not to be overlooked!!
Exactly. Rare L from this guy.
People don’t appreciate how difficult it is to have decent players willing to sit on the bench, on relatively low wages.
You don’t really get much better than Trossard, in that regard.
Agreed. Well said
Only point where I disagree on this video - you mention you can only see us beating the Munich’s of this world with a change in mindset, whereas the change is already happening. We had Munich and felt we could win, in my entire Arsenal supporting life I can’t remember feeling like that.
It demonstrates that the change is already underway.
Dream on
@@EzeBall1710 cool, what a constructive and interesting comment from someone who is clearly winning at life. You really showed me. Godspeed good sir.
I'd counter in the Trossard argument that, signing those "dream signings" doesn't mean that they will perform as said dream. Selling a player we know will perform, just because we signed a new one doesn't make sense. If perhaps after 6 months we saw our new signings performing, then yes it makes sense. However, what if we get to Jan with these new players who aren't settling in, adapting and performing way below expectations? We'll be weakened and risk our season collapsing over shiny new toys.
This is a big reason I don't think we will ever sign more than 1 big name per window, it's just risk management. 1 big name (Rice) , 1 risk/market opportunity (Havertz), 1 potential (Timber) and 1 floor raiser (Kiwior, even though it was in Jan it was meant for the same window). Selling players will relate to value and utility as stated, but that why Trossard is better to keep in the squad, but ESR makes sense to sell. Similar value, but big gap in utility. Selling low utility and replacing accordingly based on what the market conditions are.
Who is this George? Sounds like something George would say
Couldn't agree more.
@@dorman007 Hahaha, no but George is a smart guy!
Did you watch the video till the end?
Didn't you see that Trossard was over performing? Are you expecting him to keep over performing as he gets even older?
@@olsenfernandes3634 Yes I did, and this point of him over performing is nothing because best the best players regularly over perform their xG numbers. It's due to them having the X factor and scoring unlikely goals. Players who perform close to expected numbers, they not scoring from nothing, they scoring goals they should only.
And yes, Trossard is not a pace player, he's main value is in his technical ability. He could easily still get another good few years out of him. Would much rather we just kept him for his X factor till he on the decline. ESR however? Much more sense to sell, because profile wise he isn't being utilized and is not developing on the bench (vs Trossard who is). So his age is not a worry, if anything he will remain a quality option from the bench as his minutes decrease and younger players take his minutes.
Alex, once again you have delivered a perspective a lot of times we don't like to face. You are a different level thinker. You try to take the emotional elements out of it to justify your argument. I must say, you raise the ceiling regarding how I think about the game now. The way you justify your position is praise worthy. I truly appreciate journeying with you throughout the season. Tops.
Agree wholeheartedly! However did you suggest it’s an urgent change by actions or you did say an attitude change??? I ask because I think our club leaders / owners seem to be on a progressive improvement path rather than an urgent lurch to get a seat at the top table. Leeds /Spurs /Chelsea (last 2 seasons) have all fallen in a messy place by trying the get it now plan. I think your other offering on our likely extensive recruitment plan for ‘24/25 is very much on the mark but likely just another step or 2 up towards the top table- and I think winning the league OR semi-final in CL will be a mighty achievement AND set us up for more of the same til we win BOTH perhaps in 3-5 seasons with only a handful of current starters in our team but another handful on our bench
Written for Alex
Yep he's absolutely right. Time to ship out these guys. 3 years to show and prove. No? Thanks mate you're being sold. Appreciate the effort. Add a sell on clause just in case and we're done
Man people get really triggered at even a mention of city, I completely agree with your take tbh. With all they have achieved in the last 5 years, deserved or not, they are a tier 1 club. Great vid bro
If Trossard has just 2 years left, then it's time to give him a new deal. We need crucial experienced finishing in the squad. Obsessing over "transitional inevitability" but selling a valuable player like Trossard who brings so much more is idiotic
Maybe just misjudgment - idiotic would be devaluing both Trossards contribution and George’s colorful description for domination of possession with highest quality in all aspects of all players offensive skills
@@briansmith975 Clueless
Very well said.
Interesting view point there Alex. I agree we are somewhat of a tier 2 club. Our banter title of "next season fc" has a certain element of truth we shouldn't completely dismiss. There are times that as a fanbase, conversations like "next season will be Viera's year" or "this will be an incredible long term project (Marquinhos)".
To move to that Tier 1 level, I believe we need to find talent that can prove itself quickly similar to what we found in Declan Rice. Looking for this kind of talent is an uphill task which is a possible reason why Arsenal now is not making moves for new signings too quickly in this current window.
This video might piss some people off, but if you can get past an emotional response, you have to respect the brutally honest self-assessment as always, you make great points!
I do think Trossard might not be the best example to your point however. He was sooo clutch for us and the energy he brings off the bench when he doesn’t start is palpable. I would agree with your example with guys like ESR, Nelson and Vieira. I love watching ESR when he’s on the pitch and he’s got such a cool story being a homegrown talent.
But I think you’re absolutely spot on with us needing to remember that talent will always be available and if we’re not getting better as a club right now then we’re doing it wrong.
Great content, keep em coming 🤙🏼😎
Honestly, I'd say we keep trossard, or sell him for 35mill plus outside the prem or 45 Mill plus to a prem club, but I think it becomes hypocritical when some people would say yes sell trossard and in the same breathe say keep partey
What’s stopping us? 115 charges
Having 'rich deep history' next to City is wild
Haha about us to be clear
world class stadium next to Man united 🤣
Great video, massively underrated Arsenal channel! This is the foggin standard!
To me I think the challenge is about finding players willing to play squad roles at a high standard with the age profile of the players ahead of them. Can we get a CB at Kiwior's level to come to us, when we have a world class CB pairing under long contracts, aged 26 and 23? If not, why are we talking about making the squad worse?
There's a similar question for Trossard, even though it's more complicated. I don't want to lose that clutch factor especially if he's now buried behind 2 additions. Trossard is the perfect depth/bench player in how he can come on and impact a game, certainly better in that role than Jesus or Martinelli.
Can we get a CB at Kiwior's level to come to us??Kiwior???
No thanks
We needed convincing for Saka, the guy started at left wing back. Havertz needed a lot of time too, i think Arsenals best attribute is our ability to nurture talent
Real Madrid would never let a cheap player that produces the 2nd most goals in a the team go for about the same money . They still have players like Vasquez ceballos and nacho who are also subpar . Selling trossard for zero profit and hoping for some other person to get that same value at that price is way harder than just letting him stay
Bro, you are taking a page right out of investing 101: "Don't get emotional about your stocks or favorite investment". Trouble is my head and my heart are very sometimes contrarian. The heart knows what the head only understands. Excellent commentary. Hello from Florida to fellow Gunners :)
Trossard was one of my favourite players before he even joined our beloved Arsenal, he migjt not be "world class" but I genuinely believe he's god damn close in terms of finishing ability, football IQ, workrate and just overall want. To sell him when he's already proved he's happy to play a bit part would be insane.
You keep experience like that around. 100% disagree. Keep him. He's knows how to do it in big games. Why sell that mentality.
I get what you’re saying. But at the same time, it’s very hard to find good players that are willing to sit on the bench.
We see it all the time, as soon as a player hits form and starts performing, they want to be in the first team or they start angling for a move - and rightly so.
Out of all of our disposable assets (those not in the first XI) Trossard should be last on the list to go.
We aren't finding players to play on the bench, we are finding players to compete for the first team.
I was almost a lone voice who wanted Aubameyang sold after he couldn't even lift the FA cup properly, but they gave him an improved contract. 🤷♂
Says the online expert who thinks Golden Glove winner David Raya is the worse Arsenal signing ever and forgets we haven't won anything since Aubameyang left
Horrible selling is the problem. Chelsea selling maatsen already for 40mil, we won't make 1 worthwhile sale this summer in contrast.
I get the point, but sunny really agree about Trossard. Watch the 442 video about Trossard, which shows exactly how clinical Trossard is, his numbers are insane. Not just one season. Wouldn't want to sell him
Bro this was so deep. 💪 Keep up the good work
The problem is we are the arsenal. We dont just watch these players we take them into our hearts, they are ours flaws and all
I believe you are asking the right type of questions. As for the fans we are in a sense never concerned with the tough questions as they are more for Edu and Arteta etc.
There is always a soft limit to how many players you can move on in a season.
There is about 4 dimensions to how we consider a new or current player for our squad.
1: Which is his position?
2: Which other roles/positions can he do?
3: How does he complement our current crop of players regarding his role/positions.
4: How does his presence enable our squad building, our needs and resources over time/beyond this and next season.
If everyone is fit I fail to see one player that is available and linked that would go right in to the starting 11 and improve is if everyone is fit. So if we ask questions with a 1 or 2-dimensional thinking we will never have a good answer. If we use a 3- dimensional thinking we realize we need to sign a superstar in midfield.
If we consider the squad now and where we are in just 2-3 seasons we have a glaring hole in midfield we over time need to fill and having an adapted ready option is better than a new signing that still needs to adapt when the day come. There is where a Fofana from Monaco or Onana from Everton truly make sense as they may not be better than Jorginho and Partey but in a few years there is big shoes to fill and they serve us better joining now rather than later while still allowing us to sign that superstar if they themselves don't become that superstar.
As for Trossard as another example in the 1-3-dimensional thinking he is just a delight to have but since he is older than most of our forwards and thus will reach an age where decline is not uncommon we need a plan regarding who will be taking his minutes and providing that output.
Similar questions may be asked regarding Jesus.
Every single player needs to be assessed is a similar fashion.
All the while we cannot spend like Man C or Real Madrid in the long term so we have to sign a player now that may be the solution to a question over time.
Say if we move on Nketiah, Nelson, Zinchenko, Ramsdale and Partey which is the 5 most likely we may not be able to move on any other first team squad players just because the cost to replace.
3 of them are home grown which may increase the cost and 3 often inhabits important spots on the pitch or bench when fit which may increase the cost to replace.
Since this is how I think and how ESR have performed when playing I don't see how he is the one likely to be offloaded. Vieira could still come good, the jury may still be out and he could fill spaces where we lack substitutes and where better ones are hard to find and expensive to sign.
We also have the likes of Nwanieri growing up and all that guy constitutes in a 4-dimensional thinking.
Here. We. Go.
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If we had a Rice level signing every year, we’d kick on to that next level in no time.
Everything should be done to sign Simons/Musiala/Neves and if not then De Jong. Any of those elevate us the same as Rice has. That would give us arguably the best midfield in Europe - we already have probably the best defence!
Then next season, maybe a LW - in the ilk of Williams/Leao
Obviously you need a couple cheaper signings too, that hopefully kick on and level up. But you can see how quickly you end up with a world class team.
You just have to be brave enough to make marquee signings consistently. All the top teams do it (and we’ve started to recently, we just have to continue).
We have the strongest team we’ve had since the invincibles. World class CB’s and RB. 2 World Class CM’s, a World class RW.
That’s literally over half the team; we have to capitalise on that and, like I said, continue to be brave enough making marquee signings.
I love the channel, but selling players for sales sake isn't the answer. We need to raise the bar for the 25 man squad. If we bring in one or two front line attackers, seems like we should be moving Nketiah and Nelson on, not Trossard. Selling Trossard only makes sense if we can replace him for what we've sold him for or less. When we got him for just 27mil, that was a steal. If we're looking to raise the bar for the 25 man squad, look to sell Nketiah, Nelson, and Zinchenko (maybe Vieira). Also need to part ways with Lokonga, Tierney, and Tavares. Let's get those sales done. As for Trossard, I'd be looking to extend his contract.
It reminds me of the situation in British athletics. Sprinters in the uk team for instance have often been given chance after chance without ever really delivering. And this is partly due to the lack of fear of being replaced by someone else. For example mark lewis Frances broke all manner of records when young but just never really consistently out in the performance to justify his place. Compare this to the US where there is such a talent pool of sprinters desperate to take the place of whomever is in the team even if they’ve won an olympics their position is not guaranteed.
This is some of your most insightful work, in my opinion. This mentality shift is precisely what we used to scale hiring with a high bar in my business. It is harder and colder but ultimately produces better teams and better outcomes.
I see your point. This window we could be improving the squad while tackling redundancy. If we sell Trossard and Nelson for 45mill combined and get Neto for 60, sell Partey and Lokonga for 20-25 and get Onana for 50, our net spend would be arround 30mill. We sell Nketiah and Jesus for 50mill and get Osihmen for 95mill.
Arteta is easily one of the best managers in world football right now the way he has turned around a massive club like Arsenal with so little experience is going seriously under the radar.
It’s not always about winning, it’s about how you win. Look at Man City, they are winning but everyone knows it’s because of the money.
I really like that we can take players that other teams aren’t getting the most out of and make them some of the best players in the league with everyone falling back in love with them. Havertz, Trossard, Odegaard & White have all been great examples of this and I love that philosophy of improving players. I think that’s why a lot of players will want to come to Arsenal and play under Arteta.
I would love if we got Kimmich in our midfield, he is one of those that can take us to the next level with his mentality, Gnabry would also be amazing to see back at the club and I’m sure Arteta would get him back to his best. Also Gnabry is Kimmichs best friend and we’d get Gnabry for a bargain now that Olise is going to Bayern.
Your analyses are always top notch! Well done.
Real Madrid released Özil when he was constantly having high numbers of assists every season. Di Maria too was released. Beckham, makélélé, higuain, Arjen Robben, Sneijder, etc even when they were playing quite well.
Barca: Released Yaya Toure, Eto'o, etc
Bayern: Same thing.
I love all our players but some have to leave for us to move forward. I would have preferred Nelson, Nketiah or/ Jesus to be sold (one or two of them), not Trossard. He's an asset to us please!
What a refreshing point off view. 🙌🙌
Like your stuff but highly disagree with this.
Trossard is one of our highest performing and decisive players.
So the argument would instead be, would real madrid sell one of their highest performing and decisive players for $25m?
Took part in 34 games last season. And as you've said previously, as far as value to come off the bench, and a player to be happy with that. That's near impossible to get.
That's not from an emotional standpoint but purely logical.
Two of the biggest short term upgrades to The Arsenal: squad rotation on the pitch, profitable player sales off the pitch.
to be a first tier club I think we need to start buying superstars. like no more project players unless they are a squad player. especially in the forward department
Trossard is my favourite player on the squad right now. He is just so clutch. We would have been in very different position without him.
Honestly I'd start having that argument about Martinelli, while he's definitely a talent and could improve in the future, I don't know whether he's what we need in that left side and his sale (which would surely be massive, 60m at least) could help fund a replacement on that side of the field
I would suggest the sale of Martinelli would fund the China and India budget for the next 25 years!
@@briansmith975 Typical plastic
Clueless
Fully agree... but - just because talent is out there, doesn't mean it is available.
We cant just have a fire-sale and get rid of everyone, it has to be smart, that being said;
Viera - young, has potential, but is weak, has not shown enough in the time given and has poor mentality (bruno) - Sell
Tavares - Does not fit schemes, poor mentality, no value keeping him - Sell
Tierney - Great fullback, but not for us, poor inverted, injuries, quickly declining in value - Sell
Trossard - proven performer, covers many areas, low wages, squad - Keep
Nketiah - has been a great back up when called upon, but does not add anything to the first team - Sell
Smith Rowe - Injuries, does not fit the schemes as well as others, has value for other clubs, unlikely to reach the highest first team levels - Sell
Kiwior - young, has value as a squad player, but does not fit what we need, far better, available players out there for the same value - Sell
Zinny - Versatile, can still improve, helps the scheme, great mentality, confidence player - Keep
Tomiyasu - Covers both sides and the middle, great 1v1 defender, very trainable, needs game time - Keep
Ramsdale - Sad how its ended, holds better value than what's reported, clear mentality issue, not elite - Sell
Nelson - Not a first team player, has been loyal, great moments, but not enough to push the best players - Sell
Partey - When fit, world class, mentally in and out, makes us better, media nightmare and injury prone - Sell
Jesus - Still a gamechanger, will get back his spark with time, can cover a lot of areas, fits with the team - Keep
I would say everyone else is 'keep' but nobody is safe from an upgrade, but you cannot just buy and sell like in fifa.
I think a club like us would benefit from a sister club with similar play style and ethos where we can lend players to for them to develop
Plz let me know what player are we getting similar to kiwiors talent level for the price ???
Agree strongly
Our manager for our womens team is doing something similar, he just packed up a goat category player we had and i think it was him showing theres no safe position
100% the Best arsenal channel on RUclips, tells it how it is. At the end of the day football is a business players come and go, as long as the board make the right decision for the club that's all that matters we need to be the best to win trophies.
We bought him for 27million and some our fans are happy for Trossard to be sold for 25million😢😢
Arsenal fans are always enemy of progress....Arsenal has the least squad compared to the other 19 league teams and some our fans are happy to sell sell.
Do you know why we are not winning or even competing in cup games...carabao ...fa cup, its because we are short of numbers.
We always focus and rest our players for league games.
This need to change.....chelsea has like 35players and still they are signing again this summer. They even almost won the carabao last season.
No views in 33 seconds bro fells off
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Needs a haircut too
Is that gold chain getting bigger?
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This joke has fallen off
Selling someone clutch like Trossard for 25m would backfire. What will that 25m bring in today’s market?
The amount of points Trossard can salvage will be key for a title push next season. You can’t just always plan and build for the future.
And your tier seems incorrect. RM and City are miles ahead of all other clubs. And RM honestly is in a different league can’t even compare with City. Bayern probably would be a little close to them but I don’t see them winning UCL anytime soon. We can’t just get to City’s level in one window/season. We still haven’t won anything important in 20 years. First priority should be that. Selling best bench player in the world wouldn’t make sense in that case.
4:33 the picture… just WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
The missing piece in this is that having the talent is half the job. Having the courage to play them before they "deserve" it is the other part. You can look to Madrid, Bayern and City for examples where players are given chances to earn trust. It can't all happen in training. Playing Odegaard 90mins while 4-0 up at half time isn't good squad management and I hope Mikel learns.
I'm not sure how Trossard is 7th choice attacker. That assumes all the other 6 can play in every position across the front three better than him and I beg to differ. I think he's a great second tier option for games where we dominate possession and create loads of chances. I'd take his finishing, coolness and creativity over Martinelli, especially at CF. Trossard for 25mil is not as clear cut as you make it seem.
Also, let's actually play out the scenario with Osimhen for example. Say he hits the ground running but Martinelli is still out of sorts going into December. Who replaces him on the left? Havertz? We'd be back to trying out fringe players in no time. Trossard's inclusion in the squad has several upsides and admitting that isn't about being attached.
Jesus would be the answer to ur question. And likely so would any other forward recruited for 24/25. I contest the £££ value of Trossard in Alex hypothetical but I also recognise a number of pedestrian performances by him. He is an enigma.
Good video. We always have to pay overs in the prem, we sell Trossard at the top of his abilities for $25k (don't have a pound symbol on my keyboard) and will need to buy someone of less ability for $35k to fill his spot in the squad. Doesn't make the best sense. Although I agree we need to be more ruthless with our outgoings but unsure if Trossard would be the right choice.
I'll start off by saying I'm an Arsenal fan. Teams like Real Madrid, Bayern and even City, have a gravitas that I don't think Arsenal has YET. The best players in the world WANT to play for Real or Bayern, etc. Arsenal just does not seem to have that same pull. I'm just not sure that the same strategy as what those teams apply will work for Arsenal. I agree on the thought that we need a change in mentality - I'm just not sure what strategy would be the best. I reckon that the plethora of social media content creators around Arsenal (kickstarted by Robbie Lyle IMHO) has contributed to a growing fanbase and love for the club and its history, particularly the Henry era. Additionally, both Henry and Wrighty who are popular pundits LOVE the Gunners. This has to be the beginning of a wave of support that will produce the gravitas we need to get into that top tier. @DiffKnock, love your analysis, thanks for all the hard work!
I do agree, but... Good players often need half a season to settle down - Havertz just now, TH14 and DB10 back in the day - so if changes might mean months of adaptation, we should only make them if we're sure they really entail an improvement. Also, young players need time to develop: we mustn't sign someone who'd block Nwaneri. Lastly, we want to buy players like Brighton or Leicester a few years ago before their price skyrocket (Martinelli, Gabriel, Saliba). All this means some calm patience alongside our rightful desire and ambition to be top tier.
This is the right thing to do, be smart be proactive let the talent one chance to prove themselves and most importantly cash in the right time, avoid giving too much chances and silly reasons to players who don't deliver within 2 years.
This reminded me of a comment I made on TDK live's last live stream. I genuinely PARTIALLY have the same opinion as you and partially think entierly differently. It is very difficult to put into a comment. otherwise great video!
Trossard keeps Martinelli out and that's who you would consider selling for a mere £25mil? That's the definition of cheap.
It would be different if a hypothetical incoming arrives and blows everyone's minds, and even that would still require an overlapping period.
Zinchenko's situation would be a more reasonable conversation in my opinion.
I suspect that by making these decisions earlier you will have more interest in the player moving on a possibly a higher transfer fee as it has not gotten to the point where everyone else has reached their conclusion of the player
As much as I agree to the overall notion, I couldn’t but wonder, shouldn’t it be martinelli in the discussion rather than trossard?
No !
Nice video with a great logic
As usual...spot on!
The Man City (Sale of the summer) made a transfer income of £144 million. For three players. So I would say, thats pretty easy to accept. Sterling, Jesus & Zinchenko were not starting matches, week in & week out.
And your figures, exclude the weekly wages, that Man City paid, at the time. All three of those players, signed improved contracts, with rival clubs. Which means that City were gaining a financial advantage.
The point with Arsenal, most recently, in the last 5 years, is that when the club sell the fringe & bench players, the transfer fees generated are 'fair'. Clubs like Chelsea, Man City, Real Madrid & possibly Bayern are able to get away, with selling their unwanted/discontent players, at a profit, which is above the market valuation. It's moral corruption & extremely manipulative. Some might say 'clever'
3:24 dude i almost choked when you put "world class stadium" under united in this day and age 😂
As in ours
Absolutely not. 25m is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Would sooner sell Martinelli for 60m, and he’s one of my favourite players.
ESR and Nelson need to go before Trossard. There’s around 60m between them. Use that money to add Neto (my dream would be Simons) then we have sufficient, good quality, rotation.
100% agree with you. We need to run purely as a business; learning from the top clubs on how to sell without any emotional attachments.
We have to win it next season
Surely you can do better than that
Brilliant take...
As an overseas fan from the one-nil days, I reckon we know what we'd like to achieve beyond the slag that this team has gotten under current management. They've done well. Rebuilt our transfer policy once we had leverage. I wouldn't speculate ; because they know how to do their jobs beyond fans expectations. And I wouldn't sensationalise like a Lee.
Let's put our trust in them and see - especially in an environment when other clubs are announcing. Let them announce.
I haven't been this early to a video Idk what to say... COYG
We wouldn’t be able to replace Trossard with 25M
Real Madrid is an interesting case to consider, as they've altered their buying strategy from time to time, and again recently in bringing in Mbappe. Of course they let Odegaard go in the way you're advocating, and I don't currently think that looks like the right decision. Modric is coming to the end of his career and none of Diaz, Ceballos or Bellingham really offer what he has given them for the last decade. Whether they can maintain their level without him, I'm unsure of.
Trossard is out best finisher, clutch as fuck, pretty much not for sale in my books.
My best friend and I talked on the phone for over an hour about Trossard specifically and what we'd lose in selling him versus what the mentality it would trigger.
The only hang up I have is that we have some of the most woeful finishing/ballstriking in the league among our forward line without him. But for 25m+ it is definitely a no brainer if we don't want to get caught out hanging on to yet another player well past his sell-by date.
"THIS IS THE NEW MINDSET"😂
"...ʳᵃˢʰᶠᵒʳᵈ" got me good
I'd like to think you're wrong about Trossard ... Time will tell.
What you’re saying is pretty brutal, but being brutal, is what gets you into that top tier you speak of 👌🏽
saying Man City is not 1st Tier is wild...
they have dominated the league for the past years
they won a treble
and they are not slowing down...
Their titles will be stripped soon❤
@@findingaether Too much $ going around I doubt they do... but until then Tier 1
115 charges fc won't be in any tier soon.
@@findingaether You'll be being a Liverpool 'fan' soon...
@@SirAntoniousBlock Stick to Aussie Rules
I agree massively...
Spot on. Wisdom
I 100% agree with this. Too many years of keeping player that are not good enough. I think kiwior is good but i an very 50/50 on smith rowe and zinchenko. These players should go if the right offer comes in.
25 million for Trossard? 😂😂. Make it 50 and I'll discuss it.
Dry Lunch now moving on from being a manager/coach to a club scout and financial expert
What you're talking about is exactly what happened to Ramsdale...
Selling Trossard would be silly because that would leave us with no backup LW we already need a RW, CM, ST, LB and a DM is Thomas goes and 200 Million is hard enough to sign decent players in the modern day window signing a LW would make it harder to sign any others
This makes me realize I need to let go of my attachments in fm and start being more ruthless if I want to bring Arsenal to the next level.
lol, Seeling all the other players mentioned make sense, but Trossard is a big No, there is always more talent, yes, but look at the talents we signed recently, which one of them has performed up to Trossard bar Rice. These things need balance, its not a hard or fast rule
This is possibly the best suggestion I have ever heard on youtube. Just look at the comments on this video. Arsenal's fanbase screams mediocrity so much that most people don't see the logic in dumping mediocre players who are never going to make it - while still having a real sale value. Arsenal's sales policy lacks killer instinct and so does the fanbase.
Love your videoss, but the Trossard example is a wild one. He's proven that he's clutch when needed in his first two seasons. Both as a false nine & healthy competition for Marti at LW. He's the wrong example here, even in your hypothetical dream signing(s) scenario (not even linked to some of them 😂).
He'd be the experienced squad player in that scenario, ala Jorgi this season. This video is all based on short term hypotheticals. We need a little more patience. Why? Because we're ahead of schedule and currently going through a transfer window with a Euros slap bang in the middle.
Love your videos but i think this is jumping the gun. We get to tier 1 by selling right. Like an Eddie, Nelson, ESR (pure profit too) etc. And buying right, which we've improved on. With only ONE signing each sesson being a marquee one e.g. Rice.
So even if we get one of those hypothetical players, we're only realistically getting one. Meaning a consistent player like Trossard is a perfect quality cover for a new attacker as he settles in.
the dialog editing bits were class 🤣
Tier 1 are all the heritage clubs. Milan, Liverpool and Juve are all in that tier.
Under new FFP being more money centric and ruthless is going ton be far harder, against your point is Grealish almost a dud in year 1, 3 goals 3 assists terrible starts for 100m forward player, year 2 literally doubled his goal contribution 5 goals 7 assists proving his improvement under pep coaching, year 3 his worst year yet 3 goals 1 assist and isn’t 100m player anymore and not on any tier 1 wanted list. I think one Arteta and Edu’s greatest contributions is spotting talent that can be improved and improving them, which under new FFP will be how success is achieved rather than ruthlessly buying the perceived talent and selling off who doesn’t cut it, sure that will always be part of success but more emphasis on improving players than ever before under new ffp and this is our chance to break into tier 1.
The "we will let talent go that we shouldn't" argument isn't that clear either. Look at Donyel Malen. His development came AFTER he left. Had he stayed, he likely never would have developed. Just because a player goes on to become a star somewhere else doesn't mean they would have done so at Arsenal.
How did selling off our talent go 15/20 years ago?
That was our best talent, the Vieiras & Henrys etc, which I’m not advocating at all in this video 😄
We really need to be ruthless with our transfer strategy. All these attachments to Ramsdale, Nketiah, Partey, Smith Rowe, Zinchenko, etc, won't win us the Champions League anytime soon.
Partey is going nowhere...
Zinchenko too
@@gracesamson2859 Should I remind you that Zinchenko is why we drew Liverpool at Anfield?
But surely u can’t base a ££££m decision on one match result
@@briansmith975 2 decades without a title and 4 years of nothing...
@@briansmith975 If Zinchenko had defended that pass from Alexander Arnold that day, we would have one, and gotten 2 extra points and literally won the league on goal difference.
Agree in principle, disagree with Trossard sale in particular.
what you're doing here is you're already comparing us to those teams that are winning... we're not there yet... Trossard is simply too invaluable and effective... even if you get Leao and Osimhen, you don't sell him coz he is the perfect squad player that can make an immediate winning impact off the bench... in this scenario, you sell Martinelli purely coz off too many players in that position and coz you most likely can get more for him anyway... Martinelli isn't as effective as Trossard currently... once we start winning the big trophies, then you can start operating like City and Madrid
Brother I can’t count how many times I basically said that in the video 😃 we need to work up to it, we can’t “just be Madrid” today. In fact I nearly took bits out of the script because I thought I was labouring the point! 😀😀
You're talking to my soul. 😢😢😢