The Saka 'Backup' DILEMMA.
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The Sak-up if you will… I’ll show myself out
Damn I should have said this
Please come get a beer and a seat, I need more!!!!
Ba dum tsss
Backupyo Saka
Honestly you deserve to get the sak-a for this one
I remember playing Liverpool at home 2 seasons ago, we drew the game, but Liverpool were ascending at the end of the game. The last 10 or 15 minutes of the game our strategy became defend, win the ball and kick it to Saka. That was pretty much all we did and it saved us a point. Love Saka.
Kick it to Saka and win nothing.every season
Genius mate 😅
@@PaulClarke-dv5sr I can think of 115 reasons why we haven’t won anything the last 2 years…but hey, at least I’m not a Spurs fan. Best striker in the entire world and they still never won shit with him. Embarrassing
@@TheShayDaddy They're not 115 reasons bottler, they're 115 excuses for why you and Spurs are 2 small embarrassing clubs who between you haven't won a title in over 85 years ya clowns
@@PaulClarke-dv5sr Listen kid, I’m not much for rude arguments on the internet, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Have a nice day.
I’m pretty sure you have just made that up.
we signed trossard to essentially "cover" martinelli. Look how well he can do when he does play. basically sign a 28/29 year old winger on the cheap that can "do a job" and is okay with not playing all the time
This is a good idea, but I think it's harder than we think, and Trossard is a rare case. Remember, we were supposed to get Myudryk - Trossard was a last-second "we need another attacker, he's relatively cheap and PL-tested" buy, not a "we've been planning for him for years" buy like Rice.
Donyell malen is trossard 2.0
Trossard plays across multiple positions.
No need to waist resources if you have the player that will fix it and all that is needed is to play them more often
Martinelli was never asked to replace Saka until last day & I think he did well against Everton
We have players like Nelson and Jesus who can play on the right. The problem isn't needing a backup. It's Arteta not wanting to drop Saka. Players like Kudus and Olise aren't going to come to Arsenal to sit on the bench. Assuming Nwaneri is promoted to the first team and one of Jesus or Nelson stays, then we still have the bodies. Trossard and Martinelli already compete for minutes on the left, so ideally, we sign a player who is either an out and out striker or one who can play both as a striker and on the right. Aside from that, we need either a 6 or an 8 for an extra body in midfield and maybe another left back option. It's fine margins for this squad now, but Arteta needs to have trust in other players to deputise for Saka from time to time.
I actually liked your suggestion of Nwaneri as I only really thought of him as a CM. It actually makes a lot of sense. There has to be SOME sort of pathway for rated academy talent, and a role of cover to our generational talent would mean less load, lowered expectations while he adapted and (hopefully) plenty of cameos with games well won by the 65th. Isn't it also what Arsene did with Aaron Ramsey while getting him ready for CM - wasn't the reasoning something like teaching him to play with only half a pitch to exploit was great preparation for the full pitch role? So if Nwaneri was a hit or even the potential was being seen to develop, we've saved ourselves a shedload and brought on an obvious talent.
Nwaneri and Vieira are really interesting ideas. As they are young they are more likely to accept being shifted to the wing from time to time and would, to some degree, be happy to just be playing
Great vid, never heard Liverpool fans screaming out for a Salah back up over the years
Salah is clearly miles ahead of saka
Asking for a Salah backup is like asking for a Messi or Ronaldo backup
In summary no one ask for backup for world class fit players
You're erasing context. Saka and Salah were very different ages. Salah was around 24 when he joined Liverpool, so he was at an age were his body was strong enough to handle the physical demand of all those years of playing. He also didnt play as much as Saka is now when he was 18-22. Also, Klopp did sign a backup for Salah. It was Shaqiri.
@@victorsomosu123 Arteta is the one not managing saka well
Gabriel Jesus can play as a right winger he did that when he was at city
@@yungdkay1008 I agree. I wouldn't say that he isn't managing him well though. It could be better definitely.
Antonio Nusa! 19 years old and can play both at left and right wing. Been amazing for Norway the last 6 months
Can’t believe I forgot this . What a big shout .
The most surprising thing I learnt was you can earn 200,000 playing for athletic club, wtfffffffff
As they only sign players from the Basque region (leaving them with a smallish talent pool to choose from), they try to retain good players with high wages
A player we couldve gotten instead of Havertz was Kudus, last season. Can play RW and in midfield / forward.
But Havertz has been a key player so Im very happy he's here.
What you’ve described here at length is totally spot on. And the fact that arteta’s strategy is reliant on a player is a double-edged sword. You cant build your team so much around 1 player. That’s what happened to barcelona after messi. Even guardiola evolved this season with not overly relying on both haaland and KDB.
I actually think the term “back-up” is wrong. What we need is an alternative.
Let’s face it, we are now challenging for the title so everyone will analyse us like an open book. I want someone that can totally throw a spanner in their plan.
Like how zinchenko changed the inverted full-back model for us, i want that kind of impact.
And for that, i want to see vieira & nwanieri.
The transfer budget should be put for a striker and a DM.
I have a feeling Ibrahim Diaz will be the saka and odegaard competition
This is actually not a bad shout
I agree with this. He's my pick
yes. look capable and young
I do really like the idea of using Nwaneri as Saka/Odegaard, end of game replacement.
As you say, it looks almost impossible to actually find a guy that can allow Saka to have 10-15 games of rest per season, but what if we were able to regular bring him off 10 or 15 minutes before the game ended?
There was so many occasions this season where we were 3+ goals ahead, Arteta would make his 70th minute substitutions, and Saka would be made to play the full 90.
What if we began treating it that as soon as we have cleared won the game, Saka goes off and begins his rest? Nwaneri would therefore be able to play say 15 ish games with the first team, however it would be low risk opportunities, similar to what Pep did with Rico Lewis.
Use Nwaneri the same way England used Grealish in the euros 2021.
What if 0-0 and saka is tired or injured? We need a backup who we can depend even if saka isn't available
@@makei89 then we play Jesus on the RW, or Vieira. Like we did this season already
Hi TDK ! Weird non football question; but as an international fan could you do a piece on the racism B faces? I'm indian and much older and have lived in the west for several years and Bukayo shouldn't have to feel alone.. he has our support! But I have no way to reach him. Could you please talk about it ? Please and thank you!
Wow - firstly, thank you so much for your contribution to the channel! Incredibly humbled & appreciate it. Hiring an editor as we speak so super useful!!
Secondly -- I've spoken about it a bit on The Cannon Podcast which you can check out, but I want to continue to talk about it. Really important we rally around it. Stay tuned!
Thanks again,
Alex
I’d love to see Saka in the centre, I’d be happy with competition on the right and rotating him with Odegaard. I’d be interested to see that dynamic with Nwaneri too
Alex! Long time viewer, first time commenting. I think you might of answered the question within your last segment. We won’t find a Saka double. I know you know this. But, finding a different profile winger, that has outstanding passing, dribbling and is a hard worker off the ball could be what we need. A player that cater to the players by putting it on the place. 👌🏾 A chance creator. I know this is a little vague but I wouldn’t mind a player like Doku….. but better 😅 keep up the excellent content.
Kudus is too good to be on the bench not even underrating our players but kudus is genuinely of that level.
He wouldn't solely be a Saka backup though. He'd be our Bernardo Silva. He'd play in midfield, on both wings, and even occasionally as a false 9
If we want to be at the highest level we'll have players that are "too good to be on the bench" on the bench. Grealish was 100m. Camavinga also comes to mind.
@@mrwaltermathews 100% I just don't know if Firstly we pay that and secondly he accepts an offer and I mean I wish we could get him and he'd definitely full multiple spots but him getting here os the part I don't see right now
@@LwandleDlamini_I think these players know they'll play if they're good enough. And we'll pay them more than they're likely getting currently to try.
@mrwaltermathews Fair point still want to see more from arteta in terms of squad rotation because then kudus and players pf his caliber would make sense we haven't seen arteta trust the squad enough and that isn't because these guys on the bench aren't good enough they are but idk what arteta sees that we dont
Great video! sometimes it feels like most fans think the real world is football manager where you can stockpile players, not realizing that in the real world, these athletes sacrifice everything to develop and play football. I don't think Arsenal need a Saka back-up (Fabio, Martinelli and Jesus can create different attacking situations from the right), the club needs to focus more on moving players on and if it's possible, go in for "Kante" like DM and a LB. Jesus and Kai can easily give the team 15 goals each and if Martinelli can increase his output, it'll be a storm. Remember, this team scored the MOST goals in the EPL, a striker would be nice but definitely not a priority. Also, remember that signing players takes away a development opportunity for the young guns.
As I said weeks ago, Arsenal's focus should be on a mobile (B2B) DM and LB, Really excited to be linked/favs to sign Calafiori, also excited about the links with Merino. We're closing the margins. Excited about the next 3 years at Arsenal.
Alex could you please do a video with Harvey Gration. A gooner with insane ball knowledge!
He's clueless 😅
@@JoshFord-zs8dg what makes you think that?
@@dontworryaboutit7162 Because he's clueless
@@BrianConlon-ng5bw why is that?
@@dontworryaboutit7162 What are you? A parrot?
Versatility is an important trait someone who can play as an attacking midfielder and out on the wing
Saka needs competition !
That’s the mentality Arteta wants to instill, we as Arsenal Fans think of him a bit softly, we let the odd average performance “slip”
Arteta if we know him, can improve him but cannot control his consistency, to get that, pure competition is the way ! No one is indispensable.
Wrong. Saka needs a bigger club with a proper manager who doesn't shackle him or overplay him when he's injured
MICHAEL OLISE GOD DAMNIT
He wouldn't want to be behind Saka and in the last 3 years he's never really played on the left so he couldn't share minutes with Martinelli. Class player though, if he could play on the left he'd be a good option.
absolutely not you caps lock using idiott
Apparently olise is off to chelsea, they will ruin him.i think he's an amazing player and has levs to go still would be nice if we could get him and him be happy but doubt it will
100%. He can provide competition for both Saka and Oldegaard. Jesus can also do a good job there.
What if we got harvey elliott? Can play RW and RCM/LCM etc, he's more brave than fabio vieira imo
Ideal signing for that RW/LW spot would be Pedro Neto, however, I'm really worried about his on-going injury issues. Great midfielder-winger type of player for us could be Xavi Simons but I'm sure he'd hard to get. Desire Doue seems like a good option as well and he won't be too expensive, probably won't have a problem to wait for his chance because of his young age and he's definitely full of potential.
Conceição from Porto… he ripped us up across the two legs in the CL. He had a great friendly for Portugal and the stock will fly up after Euros.
Likely to want to start constantly but he’s young enough to want to play for a project, could probs play elsewhere too. Idk his stats or numbers but just think he fits the RW profile.
This is why u gotta relegate the 115 clowns, they can easily afford to sign a 100 mil backup
Remember we were very close to to breaking our transfer record (at the time) and bringing in Raphinha. So Arteta obviously sees it as an option to bring in a top winger and have them rotate to some degree.
City would be the obvious model to look at. They've always had multiple high end wingers and rotated. I think we pushed Saka harder than we wanted this yr due to market circumstances but we can't do that every yr. He will get injured.
Good vids 👏 Keep em coming 🤪🤍❤️
I'm glad you made this video. You touched on this subject very briefly in a recent video and I was curious to see what you had to say. People really do have to remember that this is not fifa and we can't just buy an up n coming winger and play him here n there when Saka needs a break. What about his development? I think Nwaneri is a good shout. He can cover Saka and Ødegaard imo. Ironically this is how I use him on football manager 😂...... it's still not fifa shut up 😅
Played less than 38 mins but u think he can cover Odegaard and Saka because this is how u use him on Football Manager??????
You absolute clown!
Saka’s clone is literally right there at the club😂 AC/DC
Great insights. Agree on the Saka question. I think Kudus plus Merino is the dream at this moment but that won’t happen. What about Sane, Adingra, Rodrigo, Raphina Coman… who would you pick and why?
desire doue looks an interesting prospect
Amario Cozier-Duberry is a Saka clone and perfect backup. The answer is too obvious.
He thinks he’s bigger than the club, he’s leaving now.
Great perspective!
I think solution is exactly what most of us were up in arms against Arteta over - different combinations of play with different personnel
Say get Neto for example - with fitness issues, even he doesn't expect to play every game but when he does, and Saka is benched for whatever reason, we switch play to speed and crosses as opposed to Saka approach .. Neto is an example of course but point is .. solution to Saka backup is a different player that calls for a different pattern of play
But yeah .. there's No Saka backup in all aspects .. just a backup to give him a rest or cover his absence
Eze as a left 8 could be an option, permutting with Ode. Rashford could be a flex option that can play anywhere in the front. Bakayoko, Cozier Duberry provides width and won"t challenge Saka at the moment, but could be really helpful.
For me, Rafael Leaõ is the perfect fit.
Can play wherever across the front line, whether it be RW/LW/CF depending on injuries, is undoubtedly a ceiling raiser, great BTL (to quote George). Fantastic runner, great at exploiting space, knows where the back of the net is.
He plays the left side and would be 100 mil plus. I mean I'd love to see it but it wouldn't solve the Saka backup problem.
Martinelli /jesus is saka backup@@mrwaltermathews
@@mrwaltermathewscould play anywhere across the front line, and it’s certainly more competition for either Saka/Martinelli/Trossard and can rotate between each of these positions. Gives players rest when needed, and doesn’t drop the standard.
@@S.H.E.A he plays the left side though. Not once did he play on the right side this yr for instance. It's like saying Martinelli can backup Saka. Technically he could but it's not ideal.
Great insight, as always. The issue Nwaneri has is that he's 99% left footed. He needs to improve on this right in order to be effective on the right wing. But I'm really excited by his prospects. Eze could be a good option for the no.8 role and then a fill in for RM as required. He doesn't want to sit on the bench anyway.
Jesus is the perfect back up to Saka.
I’d even have Jesus playing LW.
I'd love to see Arteta rest Saka against lower table teams at a minimum. Jesus would be sufficient quality to get the win.
Tsygankow fro,m girona is one o would be looking at, reaporedly he has a 30 million euro release clause. 16g/a this season too is also pretty good, not to mention his passing is also pretty good.
Okay I might sound crazy but I think we need another RW option so Saka could have the possibility play a little bit more in the middle. Like if we are trailing or looking for something different put Odegaard on the left and Saka on the right midfield with Decs behind them. Then have a front 3 of like Gabi, Kai and Bakayoko. I just think putting Saka more central could beneficial
Same here. I'd like to see him play up front. He's composed and finishes very well, like an old school cf getting those high angles from close range.
I believe a midfield trio of saka odegaard and rice would be perfect
We have a backup for Saka, it's Gabriel Jesus.
I do wonder how good he could be if he got a rest every now and again.
It’s so difficult to pick which players we need. I just don’t know who is right. But I know for certain Mikel and Edu do so I’m just happy to sit back and enjoy what the window brings
You're happy with MIkel and Edus 27 signings that not one of them has won at anything at Arsenal????
What are you, 12 yo????
Ignore the stupid comment above me
@@JoshFord-zs8dg lmao go to bed mate
@@THEMOVIEGREEK Ga monty banna yeersu pusti
@@JoshFord-zs8dg yeah it’s really past your bedtime mate. Night x
Great video 🔥
Brahim Diaz, can take some of Saka and Odegaard’s minutes and cover their injuries AND play left 8 against low blocks we need extra creativity to break down.
Would have plenty of minutes, give us plenty of cover and massively raise our floor (and maybe ceiling)
Arteta has been after than guy for years
I liked Martinelli at RW in the last game of the season. If Trossard keeps up his form, and if we potentially sign a star LW, Martinelli could be a solid RW backup
I’d rather improve on the left wing I’d say leao maybe even Summerville but I really have fallen in love with Gordon I think he’d be amazing
Cole Palmer would make a great rotational player for 7,10,9 and could potentially play in a midfield three with rice and ode.
Yup Palmer would be a attainable option, and cheap 😊
@@mrwaltermathews haha I do agree with your sarcastic comment. I think he’d add great depth. I don’t think we need to be shopping from the clearance racks anymore. Snapping up the leagues best players is a proven transfer strategy
@@032theo stop
@@mrwaltermathews very mature
@@032theo you know who Chelsea should buy Saka! And United could buy Saliba!
Martin was brilliant at RW in Sociedad. I've always thought this was a good alternative for those games when Saka has his off days. We have other players that can do a job in the midfield if we do ever move Martin.
I agree with your points. I feel the biggest dilemma we face is that no right winger under the age of 25 should even want to come to Arsenal, it would just stunt their growth. I think ACD could be an exception to this if arsenal offer him the contract. I don't think there's a perfect option but I'd like to take one of the Bayern boys as competition for Saka.
Lookman? Obviously the europa final is ingrained in everyone’s head but his stats and underlying numbers all season are quite underrated imo
"Excellent video Miss Moneypenny".
"Thanks James, James Bond"
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NOT BACKUP ..competition...saka probably has the best benefits of the system
Bw OVERLAPPING ODEGARD interchanging positions and playing 1-2's .....SAKA 1V1 ..isn't really great...IMAGINE A SANE OR neto a pacy rw...AS A COMPETITION FOR SAKA ...THIS WILL HELP THE TEAM OVERALL
Surely our academy should be where we are looking. Cozier dubery/nwaneri should get a look in
The Saka back up has to be able to play both flanks. Someone like Doku.
Or 72m quid Pepe...
the answer is Bryan Mbeumo
i feel like Brahim Diaz kinda fits your "backup" description, as he can play on both wings and in the 10 role
I hear about Tsygankov from Girona
We've previously been interested in Raphinha, and there are rumours Barca may be open to selling since they need funds. I'd honestly love if we went back in for him.
Its possible to solve and most big clubs like bayern etc do so. You just have to scout well, to solve this problem your looking for probably a young versatile player who is ready for mins but does not need the weight of the world on his shoulders, bakayoko, desire doue or if your prepared to spend big a xavi simmons or kudus type. Also I think jesus suits the job as well as you can probably need. so I not sure its a problem. People talk about because saka is super human and can just always play think it was the same for the salah's of this world. To be honest maybe the best solution is to change the system slightly maybe more of a double pivot in some games so he doesn't;t have to do the insane amount of tracking back. I think the odegaard rotation option might be a bigger problem and a rice alternative.
saka finna his balon d'or next season 🔥
Jarrod Bowen from WestHarm United to create competition for Saka is world class signing.
We need to bring back Mika Biereth who is on Loan, he is a clinical finisher lethal striker.
Great analysis as always Alex! ❤
What are your thoughts on havertz playing there?
Probably hugely depends on whether or not we sell Jesus because he is a great back up RW and can play across front 3.
Isn't nico williams release clause 43, seems a great player to push both martinelli and saka for a starting position.
No mention of Cozier-Duberry?
saka back-up... Sounds like a character from in the night garden
What about Martinelli vs Eve didng convince you?
I thought he was pretty good!
Wondered if of he could be a good third choice winger, able to fill in on either wing
Surely Olise is a shout. Depends what kind of money Palace want for him but I think he could solve many issues. First of all, he is potentially a generational talent and already has premier league experience. He could play on the right and do a brilliant job if Saka is out, which was the main focus of the video. But with his level of talent he would need to play more games. He (or Saka) could play in Odegaard's current position and still bring great ball control, creativity, killer passing and crossing, as well as potentially more goals and moments as he grows and blossoms under Arteta. Odegaard would then shift to LCM and have the chance to evolve his game in order to become less predictable and more influential by having more favourable angles on his left foot. Rice plays CDM and shifts to RCM when Timber inverts to create the box midfield.
Overall, we would be adding a generational talent who could give us options, big moments, and solve so many issues that we want to adress this summer window. I really believe that the 22 year old could already take us to a different level and set us up beautifully for the years to come.
What do you think Alex ? Wouldn't signing Olise allow Arsenal to adress the LCM, Saka "replacement" and "big moments" player issues you've been discussing recently ? Pls lmk :)
I'd like to see us giving game time to youth on RW with Jesus as back up. Nobody good enough will want to warm the bench, and if you buy a back up and play them LW it means selling Martinelli. Though I have same thought for LB if Timber comes back OK. Its up front to challenge Havertz is were I'd like to see.
Give Ethan a chance this kid is magnificent
What about Viktor Tsygankov winger/cover for Saka?
It’s not a dilemma. It’s Cole Palmer.
I'd sign Pedro Neto
Alex,it was a big mistake by Arteta to not use Amario cozier Duberry.
That was the solution for Saka backup.
In general,I like academy players as squad players especially if they are good enough
Definitely some good candidates but I would love to see Jesus tried and viera tried there more before spending big on a replacement. I also wonder if Jesus could play the odegard role if he was unavailable. I think he’s great at leading the press and combining on that right side.
I wouldn't really mind Martinelli-Jesus-Havertz or a Martinelli-Havertz-Jesus. Imo, we should definitely consider Havertz. He's definitely a drop off from Saka, but if he's told to hold up play and cycle the ball, I think he could do the job well. That's actually why I'm so high on signing a great CF or Striker to reduce the need for Havertz to complete take ons.
Alex any reason we don’t go for Neto? Injury reasons?
0:14 I MADE IT!
Quality video as usual Alex, some great information and points covered. Amazing.
Surely we need to have this conversation in the knowledge that no one at the club will be happy for us to be knocked out early of both domestic cups again. Therefore......
I really don't see a problem, all the internal options are all good. Jesus, Martinelli, Nwaneri, all decent also Rowe, Viera, work if you rejig the system, which personally I think we should do more often.
Alex intro 😅🔥
I think the most reasonable thing is to have Jesus be his backup/spell him late in matches, and Nwaneri is super-intriguing as well, though with a player that young, you can't count on him quite yet. I'd much rather spend our big money on an elite left-8 to lift the ceiling of the squad.
How do we collectively feel about Raheem Sterling? Apparently Fernebache want him, I'm sure he would be open to lowering his wages and being a back up for Saka plus he contributes to the English quota for us, has experience in winning trophies and is in the latter part of his career. I know small clubs like West Ham or Tottenham might be able to offer him a starting position but could we persuade him?
Nevermind, Raheem is 29 years old 😬😬
signing Dejong would be the final jigsaw in the puzzle, makes saka prime messi .
His game is regressing with too many injuries.
I also think since Sesko is off the table . Why don’t we think of Kvara? I mean Napoli just placed 10th and need to sell .He can create. Beat one on 1. Score. I wish he was looked at more he is so solid
What of Desire deou?? Dont know if i got his name right
The better is the upgrade
I wonder if you sign a Williams or kudus and saka would play as an 8 in midfield?
Rafael Leao is the answer. Leao, Kai, Saka is world class front three
That's a nice front three but doesn't solve the Saka backup role
Actually, Martinelli would be a decent option on the right wing when needed. Thought he was far more a threat than anyone else who played on the right in place of Saka. He's different & we'll be losing a lot of Saka's unreal qualities, I agree. However, I trust all we want is someone to pose a threat on the wings which neither of the other options who played on the right wing in Saka's place this past season did which Martinelli showed that he can against Everton. With more 1 on 1 work with the coaches, he can improve his ability on the right wing imo.
brahim diaz or muhammad kudus would be two great options who could fill in for odegaard AND or saka (the 8 and the right wing) because they both can’t play 90 minutes two times a week all season. we need a quality of player who could start in either of their positions without feeling too much of a difference and giving them a bit of a rest so they can fire on all cylinders
Another FIFA 98 Expert...
What is your opinion on Zhegrova from Lille?
I think olise is the closest in similarity if I’m going completely by the point you made in the video, he also spent some time in midfield at reading
kudus is the man he is a game changer he is versatile and physical he can play as a left 8 and replace saka without any drop off
But Arteta said he doesn't fit his player profile so signed Vieria instead....
Now that sesko is staying, we should go all in for leao.
How about Pedro Neto if he is relatively cheap?
I love the idea of bringing Nwaneri and CD up, they need minutes if we are to keep them in the future and are already at the club, allowing us to spend money elsewhere, lets see what they can do
We dont need "backup" we need an "alternative" on the right. Probably something a bit different. Like doku and grealish.
My ideal Saka Back Up would be Ferdi Kadioglu ..He can play Left back Right Back.. Right wing Left wing and Attacking Midfield...ideal cover in multiple positions.. transfer fee isn't crazy..24 years of age