NEW DAA Mini Case Feeder for the Dillon RL550
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The Double Alpha Academy just released their new affordable mini case feed system for the Dillon RL550, and in this video I’ll show you how it works!
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Wow why is everyone so afraid of this?? I think its cool. Always fun to add things to your reloading. Been doing this for 52 years and I am still adding things. Just have fun. Great video Gavin..
It literally took me 34 minutes to install and make my first round. It runs like a sewing machine. Very simple design. GREAT PRODUCT
I have been reloading for years. I had high hopes for this product but it is a failure. I installed it and reloaded 300 rounds or 9 mm. It started okay, but you better have EVERYTHING set up before you load the cases because it is in the way and if you have to adjust either powder of case length you have to either empty tube or fight the thing with every action. I then did 100 rounds of 380 acp. The product started to fail regularly. The slider started to hang up so the case was not inserted completely. Then the swing arm would fail to drop cases. Then the clamp (that scratches the press) gave way a little. I took it off and restored to factory
This is not ready to be part of a press. The stress is too much for long term use and defeats the purpose of a 550 which is to have a more intimate role in the reloading process. It is a great tool if you want to learn how to control your frustration or new swear words. If you really want a case feeder get the 750.
Neat product, but one of the reasons I chose the 550 was so that I manually hold and feel the case mouth of each piece of brass. I reload lots of range brass and it’s worth the small amount of extra time to quickly review each piece.
Very cool... Never have really thought about a case feeder... Until now...
Just got mine today and have it working. It really does a good job with 9mm
I suggest that you put a 45acp case and put it on the top of the primer push rod for a little extra weight. I did this to my 550 and 650 and it seems to help keep the rod settled during the operation of the press.
That is a great tip, thanks
As always an excellent explanation of the installation and system abilities; Am I the only one who thinks the DAA system looks alot like the Lee case feed system with alot of extra complexity and cost for Dillon owners?
I was just thinking that!
I agree, with my old 550 I easily did 200 rds in 1/2 hour. That's without a case feeder. I've since upgraded to a 1050 though.
I bought his case feeder and have the Dillon 550B which is about 30 years old. Had to file down the plastic part as my press had a lip so be aware. I also ran into clearance issues with the Dillion Roller handle as it would hit the shell feeder. I put original handle on and it works fine. The roller handle has a bend in it that causes the issue. I have ordered an inline fabrication handle and hope this works. This case feeder for the money works very good.
Did the Inline Handle resolve the issue?
Thanks Gavin for your very informative videos. Just ordered DDA mini case feeder and it hopefully will increase my loading speed 💪😎👍
...about time!!! Lee has the best, most durt simple case feeding system in the world..and this seem like a copy never dud understand why Dillon and others went with an expensive motorized feed system...I hsve a 550B end used to have 2 Lee 1000s and miss that system on the 550...
That music sounded so much like "Footloose" that I thought Gavin was going to break out into his best Kevin Bacon Dance!
Been a follower for long time. Background change just distracting 😆 lol
Love your channel
On the other hand, if you have good wood, you want to show it off.
One word to describe the addition of this case feeder to a press that will run flawlessly without it..."REGRET!"
Hi Charles, Could you please elaborate on your thoughts. I am currently waiting on delivery and have been watching this for about two years now.
@@robertchichitano3209 I am sure the 'Blue Press' will operate flawlessly if you set it up carefully and don't get in a hurry and take measurements of seating depth and powder delivery as you progress. Also...monitor the priming system as it can and will be problematic at times. When you get to know the press it won't be so intimidating. As far as a manually advanced turret style press goes, it will make fine ammo and stay in 'specification' for the entire batch if you are attentive. Therein is not the problem I see.
The problem is trying to make an almost full-on progressive out of it. Notice all the hoops he had to jump through to get all the aftermarket gear to fit and work correctly. Do you have the time & expertise and the tooling to do that? Not too many do & they'll end up screwing with it until they get tired and pull the stuff off and go back to the way that machine was designed to be used. On the other hand, some will be successful and stick with it.
Today many handloaders think speed is most important, that is not so... loading accurate ammo is. When you make a press complicated with ad-ons it will distract you from paying attention as you should & you end up wrestling with the little adjustments of the add-on gear...in the meantime you run the risk of making 'squibs' and that can be a very calamitous event, even deadly.
If you want higher production, look for that type of press...a full on progressive but be warned...it takes time and experience with any progressive to make foolproof ammo that you can rely on.
I reload many calibers and will have to change toolheads and be able to single feed as well. This is too much work for me when calibrating the press. I might as well just get myself a 750 on top of the 550 I already have...
You know I was thinking the same thing.
Man stay away from the blue koolaid
I’d argue that you spend more time filling those tubes than if you just placed the casing seems like a solution for not a problem.
Hey Gavin, congrats!
But turn off the press skylight.
At 10:20, I’m thinking, is this really faster??? Then he fills the magazines in about 8 seconds… to me self “yeah dummy it’s faster, watch the whole video”😂😂😂😂😂😂
would love to see a head to head of Dillon vs Hornady. Looking for precision work
I haven't really got to the point I need a case feeder for my Dillon 550C yet because I'm still trying to learn it but it's nice to know they have something out there for when that time comes... Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
Hang in there Lil buddy, before you know it you'll be wanting more speed, more power, etc. It becomes an addiction.
@@robertchichitano3209 I've been reloading for years on single stage and turret presses but the progressive presses are all new to me... I just got to start playing with mine after having it set up for almost a year because I finally got restocked on components... But thanks for the kind words I'll get there eventually!!! LOL
Looks a lot like the Lee product. DAA made a die to allow using that on any press. Nice kit.
Nice one gavin!
Thx Gavin !
I know nothing about reloading (other than the obvious, i.e., you put new powder and primers and bullets into cases you're reusing) -- but, I _was_ a camera repairman (for too many years), so I have a bit of an "intuitive" grasp of how various parts interoperate with each other to perform a task (i.e., shutter release is pressed, releasing _not_ the shutter, but, the _mirror._ Mirror rises, stopdown mechanism actuates the lens's aperture, and when mirror is fully raised, shutter is then released _by_ the mirror. When the shutter has closed (duration depending on the speed to which it is set), the shutter tells the _mirror_ to drop, and the mirror tells the lens to re-open the aperture.
Within each of those subsystems there are numerous parts, all interacting, and I haven't even touched on things like the transport, metering, shutter timing, and so forth.
I digress.
It seems to me that a simple pawl could be used to rotate that stack of clear tubes each time the lever is pulled, so that they would all be used at the same rate without the operator needing to be paying attention to _that_ and as a result possibly missing something _else_ (i.e., too much/too little powder, etc.)
I doubt it would be very difficult at all to implement something like that.
Agreed. I did a lot of automation in my life, and anything waiting for an operator action without an alarm drives me nuts. The incremental rotation at least would exhaust the whole battery before failing. On the other hand, if you watch your process, you at least increased the rate.
@@waynehendrix4806 -- Yeah, and it does _more_ than drive you nuts -- the best illustration that springs to mind is from a work of fiction, but that does not diminish the reality of the problem. Ever see "The Andromeda Strain"? (I have not read the book, so I have no idea how closely if at all this part matches it.)
There is a group of scientists in a top secret underground laboratory, so secret, working with such _potentially_ world-changing materials that there resides at the core of the lab a nuclear bomb, there for the purpose of "sterilization" of any infection that has breached the confines in which it had been kept.
I digress. Worse yet, I forget exactly what "tell" they were testing in order to find -- but, the scientist who was on-duty at the time that particular reaction _did_ manifest had "zoned out" because of sitting there watching one uneventful reaction after another for hours on end, and when THE reaction occurred, she was basically out of it, and didn't notice!
This is IMO something endemic to sentient beings. A chicken can be trained to look for the right (or wrong?) kind of "shiny thing" moving down a conveyor belt (I'm not making this up!) -- but for a _human_ it's not just a matter of it being "boring" work -- it's a matter of it having a genuine effect upon the mind, possibly upon the brain itself on a bio-chemical level.
You are showing your age. SLR with a mirror is unknown to most today. Like the Swiss said the digital watch is a fad. Right or wrong automation is the direction the world is going to. Still have my SLR and a bag of lenses (the short ones) . Can you still get 35 mm film?
@@waynehendrix4806 Photo cell or prox switch, when tube is empty a single rotation movement. But then you will need to see if t he next tube is full to rotate. If not need to alarm all is empty. . Need a PLC. On second thought easier for the operator to look.
@@briannemec9214 -- A friend just sent me a box with about a grand worth of film -- he's a retired "famous photographer" from a major newspaper. Bricks of Tri-X, 100
rolls of Tri-X, beaucoup other emulsions including a LARGE bulk roll (250' I think) of Super-XX -- plus lots of Ilford film, a bunch of 120 film, some C41 B&W (which Kodak no longer makes), etc.
My freezer was already full (including treasures like bricks of Ektar 25), but I'll manage to fit this in. So, I'm more than set for life, given my advanced age. My wife should make out nicely on ebay once I'm gone.
So, whether they still make film or not, there'll be lots of it in deep freeze all around the world. Plus, Ilford, the Eastern Europeans, Agfa -- all still in business, IIRC.
And, yes, the bankrupt EKC _is_ still making _some_ film, but nothing like the cornucopia of emulsions from their heyday. I don't think they still make Plus-X (one of my favorites -- but, I do still have a decent supply), Tech Pan is gone, Panatomic-X (incredible film) long gone.
And, of course, the King of Them All -- Kodachrome -- RIP. Long Live the King. :(
Well chalk one up to not reading enough comments. I got this an assembled it over the past weekend and right off the bat I knew what the problem was going to be. There is nothing to hold the case in the shell plate, so as it feeds it any slight drift outward and it hangs on the resize die. And even if it is fully fed and resized, if it drifts at all on the way down, when you go to push in the primer it will hang there as well. So without some kind of clip that the stock feeder ramp has, this thing is more or less useless. I tried adding some material to the feeder to push it in tighter, but then the cases don't drop. And of course these guys won't take a return once you've assembled it, only a store credit, can't imagine why 🙄 EDIT just noticed he didn't use dies with the 9mn🤦 he would have had issues trust me
What light are you using on your press?
Nice video but the press light has to go. It really made it hard to see what was going on.
In my opinion: as long as you seat the bullets by hand, you have all the time in the world to grab a case with the other hand simultaneously and insert it manually. And it seems you are not getting the time back which was spent on filling the case tubes. Indeed, you have to let go off the handle for inserting a case manually.
But turning the tubes every 25 cases of 9mm is just another thing which might cause distraction. I think i will leave my 550 as it is or upgrade to a more advanced press.
Another excellent vid. I'm having a few problems with mine - alignment with the sizer die / priming station. But... excellent content on your channel. My GoTo for all things reloading. Can I get a free t-shirt now? lol thanx again.
I'm curious about lube for 223. Did you look those cases prior to putting them in tubes? If so how do you get it off? If not, how are they not getting stuck?
Can you make a video on the Dillon 550 case feeder?
@ultimate reloader, cam you a video with rl550 with double alpha case feeder with silver layer bullet feeder for a 9mm?
This was good product review Gavin, but I just ant get used to your press moving when being operated. I mean the flex in the mount or table. I still like your channel tho. 👍
seems like a lot of "tool" for little or no gain but your videos are very well done! 👍
The DAA mini Dr bulletfeeder works great with my 550. I only need to set the brass in place. 9mm 147 drops right in place, every time. It was a much simpler setup, that works better than this.
After watching the three vendor videos, seems like I have to sacrifice my led skylight. So my dilemma is speed vs safety… specially loading 9 mm. Any suggestions?
Lols.. That thing is faster than the regular Dillon case feeder.. That's like the manual gatling gun version from the 1800's..
But I'll never go back to manually loading bullets or brass ever again.
How much is it? Would be nice to mention
Love the 550 but this looks like a good bit of work and not ideal. Probably better off to get a XL750 and leave your 550 setup for lower volume or more precision stuff
My only issue using this will be when reloading.45 acp. The only time I have to separate the small and large primer brass is right before I place them on the shell plate. I don’t see myself sorting them out just to feed them into the clear tubes, too much wasted time. Great add on to the mighty blue Press !
Having owned a Dillon 550/550B since 1998 I'm hard pressed to believe that this "upgrade" is worthwhile! I've loaded thousands of rounds of pistol ammo rounds over the years, and once the dies/powder are properly set I can easily crank out 400 rounds per hour manually setting the bullet and case for each round. Dillon's much better and more expensive case feed upgrade for the 550 is only rated at a 20% through put improvement (480 rds/hr for a typical user). The DAA upgrade is worse than the Dillon, takes more time to load and index and probably only increases through put by 10%! The Dillon 550 was NEVER designed to be an auto case fed reloader! The ergonomics are all wrong and I've never seen an "auto feed" case or bullet upgrade that worked! Maybe "upgrading" a 550 to auto case feed makes sense if you are loading 5,000+ rounds without changing anything on a desert island. If not, be happy with 400 rounds per hour from a manual feed 550. You are advertising a great solution for a problem that doesn't exist. If reloaders need/want production/high volume, point them to a Dillon 650/750/1050 reloader that is optimized for autofeed!
Hey Gavin, great video as always. Curious, have you installed the mini case feeder using one of UniqueTek's CNC Machined Toolheads? If so did you have any issues with the plunger not engaging the shellplate bolt? In reference to the plunger hold bar does being raised slightly, due to the way the toolhead seats on the 550c, affect the way it holds the plunger in place?
Ths looks like an interesting alternative to the Dillon version. I like it because it is not so huge and bulky. Once concern for me is that, although you mentioned, 40 S&W and 38 super, I didn't hear 10MM which would be an important cartridge in my 'Arsenal". Does this caliber officially not work with this case feeder or was it just overlooked or not mentioned?
Will it drop 44mag cases
Is it possible to get a little more details or pictures of the alterations for the 550c vs the a/b just picked up a new 550c after coming from RCBS and Redding Single stage and I'm super excited about the case feeder.
So it won't work for 308,45colt,44mag, or 30-06?
Gavin I am totally intrigued with this case feeder. But I use the Titan EasyDial powder measure option on my small powder measure because I load quite a few calibers with Titegroup, which measure extremely accurately thru the Easy Dial. I am concerned with the clearance of the EasyDial and powder bar as powder is thrown and the bar and dial reciprocate past the white cable that is operated by the center plunger for the Mini Case loader. Do yo think there would be sufficient adjustability to arrange the cable to have clearance for the powder bar and EasyDial to pass without obstruction?
Question for you. I have a Dillon 550 with a case feeder. The power one. Why can I not find parts to make it feed 223
Even though the DAA video says it works for all pistol calibers the website states it only works with 380ACP, 9mm, 9x21, 9x23, .38S, .40SW, .45ACP, .223 and 300BO. Emailed the company and found out it won’t work with 45 Colt so hard pass for me.
Do you lube the cases prior to loading the tube?
As always, great video and explanation. I have a related question. Does the new DAA case feeder tube assembly that accepts 45 ACP work with the DAA XL 750 case feeder? It seems like it does but I can’t find verification anywhere. I love the DAA case feeder on my XL 750. It works great for 9mm, 38 Super, 40 S&W, and 10mm. If I can buy new tubes and get it to work with 45 ACP that would be great.
I answered my own question. I went ahead and ordered the new tubes that work with $% and now I'm set. I probably would have never found out about this if not for your review. Thanks!
Are these kits durable? Anyone been using one for a year??
If it doesn't fit out of the box how is everybody else going to use it that don't have equipment
You don’t have a file and allen wrench?
@@ZhuJo99 if you're spending money you should not have to do that and yes I have a lot of tools enough to take your house apart and put together enough to take your car apart and put it back together but I don't have to shave metal off and alternator or starter for it to fit so why should I have to do that
@@allenhoward178 it was explained in the video on why it is like that. Watch it again. And from reloader I would expect a little will to finish and customize some things by itself.
@@ZhuJo99 for how much it cost I don't expect I have to touch anything and you're going to have to remove a little bit more to replace the protective coating that was removed and it's not a gun where I'm putting an optic on it that's custom but come on when you spend that much money you expect just to slap it on
@@allenhoward178 to some extend, I agree. On the other hand, they made it this way to be as widely usable on all 550 variants as possible.
I don’t care, quite happy with my full equipped XL 650.
Where can I get the steel t-track that you use on the reloading bench?? Thanks in advance.
Any news on the progressive press shootout?
I'm new to reloading and I just bought some hodgdon lilgun powder and I would like a little info on a safe charge that would put me around 900 950fps with a 10.5inch barrel 300blk 150 to 170gr bullet just ball park
May I suggest not to get your reloading data from the internet but rather a reliable current reloading manual. Also suggest getting a chronograph to verify.
Looks to me like they took some of the ideas from Lee case feeder.
yup pretty much what is on the lee 1000 series. and the feed tray on top comes with the lee.
Hi, Gavin. Another good video. Where can a fellow pick up those Allen wrenches and screwdriver sets?
@Joe Chance I meant the exact sets, not just any old sets.
Not a good system, a modified dillion case feeder is better, and better yet no case feeder on a 550. At that point get a 650/750.
For that much money I’m not filling shit to make it fit. Fuck that.
Major problem is you lose the abilty to deprime your cases
Still think my Hornady LnL case feeder is a huge step above this mr. bullet feeder. Reason I didn’t go with Dillon and not rich enough for Apex 10 😂
Hi, I've been following your channel and am looking for feedback on a previous topic. 6.5 Grendel vs 6 ARC. Looking and commenting on the two comparisons I keep getting confused when 6 arc 107gr is compared to 6.5 Grendel 123gr. When do you compare 107 to 107 or 123 to 123?. After looking at 107gr Grendel from Alexander Arms the same for 6 arc they seem closer. When I asked Kota boy he gave an explanation of weights for the two I couldn't justify. Are there any reasons not to compare the same weight bullet between them?
I went from the 650 to the 550 to get away from the complexity. Na’thanks.
UR video wasn't very clear Little fussy
Oh hell no... Thanks for the video. It's not worth all of the effort for me.
Sorry, I do not see the value of this mechanism. Too much complexity, hand loading should be simplified and not made more complex.
The poor ergonomics can bee seen clearly as you cant your shoulders to view into the case and place a bullet. Visibility is poor on this design. Probably worth getting a different press all together.
Your instruction video was far more superior! Double Alpha's installing video was terrible and less than satisfactory!
Make your life easier. Get a Lee Pro1000.
MEH, way to many manual steps for a mediocre list of workable calibers. If I am going the route of automation I will pop for a 750 with a bullet feeder, case feeder and trimmer.
Not for anything but I would never buy a DDA product ever again. Had the electric powder check damn thing never worked from day one called call them up they basically said you're on your own never buy anything from them again
What light are you using on your press?