Our New Car | Citroen C5 Aircross | Honest Used Car Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2023
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This is the 1.2 3-cylinder petrol engine mated to an 8 speed Aisin automatic gearbox, this delivers 130 BHP and a 0-60 time of 10.2 seconds whilst returning a claimed 39.2 MPG (WLTP).
Would I have bought this car if I were still in regular employment - No! I would have leased something which would have made far more financial sense for me than dumping a big lump of cash into a depreciating asset. I'm fairly confident that in 3 years' time this car will have lost (and cost) more over that period of time than if I'd leased a brand new one but as a newly self-employed person it's difficult to get a new car lease.
The car has 580 litres of boot space (expandable to 700 litres if you push the rear bench forwards) and have 3 proper rear seats (2 of which have ISOFIX connections).
The fact that I purchased this car means nothing, I still firmly believe in leasing - I just didn't have the opportunity this time around.
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I‘m 20 years old and in Juli last year i bought the C5 Aircross, used with 15.000 km 3 years old. I always wanted a Reliable yet Luxury SUV because i just love to have big space in my car. One of the examples why i wanted to buy a Family Car yet i’m just one Person. I have the 180hp Gasoline Motor with an automatic Gearbox, and i also have the most Tech in the Car plus the Brown Leather. Till now i am actually happy, it‘s interesting how people look at my car when i drive past them. when i overtake cars the sport mode actually comes in handy. The only negative thing i really don‘t like is that the leather looks it‘s been used for centuries now, but i think this is normal cause it is of course no real leather. Yet im still scared what comes for the future because here in Austria we don‘t hear good things about french cars.
Thanks for watching and sharing, I hope it serves you well 👍
Good choice. Citroen seem to be the only maker who understand most families value comfort over the hard ride, ultra aggressive steering and bum pinching seats the Germans seem to want us to drive.
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Might be the most honest car review I’ve seen. Fair play to you Jim. Thanks for being real
I’m always 100% honest in my reviews Nashan, I take real pride in it as I feel it makes me different from some of the others out there.
The main difference with this one is, when it’s my own car I’m happier to put the boot in a bit heavier as if I offend an owner of one…well….I’m one too so I’m allowed to😁👍
I’ve also had this for 2 months so have had far more time than usual with the car which really helps. (I usually only have review cars for a week)
A wise choice Jim and in a sensible colour too ! Had one of these as a hire car in 1.5 diesel which had great torque and mpg for such a small engine and was a joy to drive.. Many miles of happy motoring !
Thanks Joe, yes, very much head before heart but it’s really nice to drive.
Thanks, yes, I remember having 2 young children,need to be able to hose down the internals, and big storage for all the inevitable camping trips etc. Now retired and can choose just for me and the missus.
Thanks for the honest review.
Thanks John, I’ll get something a bit more “me” one day 👍
Like all your videos Jim, I had one of these as a holiday hire car and like you say, it ticks most boxes. And comfy suspension too which I really appreciate these days !!
Cheers John 👍
Just purchased a 2021 hi 130 flair auto hdi eight speed, the car is so quiet and the auto box superb, plenty of room and averaging 45 mpg locally, lovely interior a great family car👍
Very nice!
We have one at the moment as a hire car, at first my wife said it’s far to big but now she’s more use to it she loves it. Got to admit when l drive it l love it too,such a smooth comfy car to drive, we don’t want to give it back! I would buy one tomorrow if l could afford one!
I'm actually selling this one at the moment; it's been brilliant but I need to reinvest the cash into somethign different for an upcomign RUclips series. Great cars to be fair; we took this into Europe a couple of months back and I did some really long drives with pretty much zero fatigue.
Good review Jim. As for the new motor, as long as the boss, the kids and the dog all approve, all is well!
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great honest reviews as always - all the best with your New(old) car Jim 🙂
Thanks buddy 👍👍
Perfect timing for me coming across this review. Buying a Flair Plus (manual) version of this car in the next week or so, in large part because of the 3 rear seats (10 month old twins so *two* car seats) and boot space combo. Fantastic to hear some proper details on that rear space. Cheers!
It’s ideal for that, 2 car seats and still plenty of room for a pair of adult cheeks 👍
Nice, honest review Jim - thank you 👍
The "Sport" button in my C200 is largely irrelevant too Jim. Being the basic "van" engine (probably with "van" mapping), pressing it simply causes more noise with little or no change to performance 🙄. It does tighten up the steering and brakes a bit though.
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Brave and honest video to make Jim, especially after your previous car and opting to buy. I think you've made the right decision btw. I'm seriously thinking of moving from a 2018 BMW 5 series that I own and currently receive a £500 a month allowance for (before tax), to a CITROEN e-C4 (with ONTO) paid for by the company
Cheers Ray
Fair enough Jim. A car that is fit for purpose, which is how it should be imo.
Yep, family life.
As ever, a very credible story. Well done!
Thanks Peter
As you say Jim, a very honest review. Many people have to make a practical choice and have a car which suits their needs rather than what they may aspire to. Tested one of these and was impressed with the ride quality.
Thanks Peter, yes it's very comoftable and capable and ticks a number of boxes. I just need a nice mid-life crisis car to sit with it to bring some balance back to the drive.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru The only thing that bugs me is the centre consul is so large that if you put something on the passenger seat and it flies into the passenger footwell to have to get out and go around to retrieve it from the passenger footwell, its not like a car where you can just lean over and pick it up😂
Been mega busy Jim. Great review mate. I was a bit shocked to see a Citroen. 👍
Haha, not a dream car, but the right one for us at the moment (and with 3 years warranty) 👍👍👍👍
I did find myself thinking you could have just bought a Berlingo 😀 appreciate the honest review.
That really would be a step too far for me
We have 2.0 Bluehdi Flair Plus for 3 years now. Except laggy software and electronics there are no problems with the car. Car to get you fresh and relaxed from point A to point B. Also decent caravan towing vehicle with that stronger diesel engine.
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Classic what do you want v what do you need. If it's comfortable and does the job it was bought for then it's a good choice. Had history with citroen and renault and tried the steering wheel position in a Peugeot which is why I have a Honda.
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Agree with you ! The 130 HP is more than capable! 👍🏻👍🏻
100%
We have a 2018 C3 Aircross and love it. It was sold to us as a 130hp but turned out it was the 110hp. Main dealership rectified the problem by having the car remapped and we still have the warranty from them.
So much better with the 130, the extra torque is great, the mpg has improved which considering it’s got the EAT 6 automatic it’s pretty good
👍hope you and the family enjoy the car
I hope so too!
Safe , sensible and practical , use every day ,what is there not to like 😀
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Great review. I test drove this model and although I really liked it and found it very smooth to drive, it felt a bit sloppy sometimes. In the end I chose the Peugeot 3008. That car felt responsive and agile....probably partly because of the small steering wheel. Now it's 3 years on and I am still enjoying the Peugeot, but in another year I'll upgrade and will have to choose between the newer C5 and the newer 3008. There probably won't be much else in the running, since I've long been a fan of French cars.
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Good review, ticks the boxes for the purpose
Maybe an idea for future reviews ie The car choice for different types of groups
I have got interested in potentially going Car Camping but wife not keen on that
Would fancy many cars and maybe an old XJS or Merc SLS
We are now pensioners with driving as my hobby in the past. But need to have something for the 2 grandkids when visiting
It’s getting hard to decide what category we fit into ;-)
Thanks Reg, yes, I know where you’re coming from 👍
Brilliant straight talking review. I am a bit gutted that Citroen discontinued its 1.6l petrol and 2l diesel versions of this car. Those units had a bit more performance about them, which would have excited me a bit more when not ferrying the family around.
Yes, I’d have preferred the 1.6 petrol but the examples around my budget at the time weren’t great.
I was lucky enough to find a 2019 1.6 Flair Plus model. It's incredibly nippy and smooth I was coming from a Mazda CX-7 2.3 turbo petrol, and amazingyt the Citroen has the same performance - and actually more top speed!@@DefinitelyNotAGuru
Well done, an honest review. Needed for practicality nothing more. I personally would avoid French vehicles like they have the plague personally (because I run a fleet of them and shocking faults at nearly new, you just wouldn't believe). Well Done - I like your no BS approach 👋
Thanks, I’m pretty happy with this one and as I have full warranty for 3 years and a dealership at the end of the street I’m fairly comfortable. The biggest known fault on this one is the infotainment pooing itself which is no big deal 👍
Good fair review.
I've had multiple citroens, ZX, Xantia, XM and a C4 grand picasso and they all were hit an miss on quality and uninspiring to drive....but.... they were/are the most reliable cars I've had, I've had more comfortable and nicer cars but none as reliable including a couple of Audi A6's
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I bought mine brand new a year ago and really love it, same colour and spec except it's diesel, the French qwerkiness is evident all over it ,but I kinda like that apart from the infotainment which is just far to French for me, but Android Auto solves that. As a well built practical and hugely comfortable daily I don't believe there are many better cars in the segment, and I've driven most of them!
Yes, I've driven mostr of them too and think these are decent VFM. I'm a recovering French car hater but, to be fair, they've upped their game a lot whilst many others have gone backwards.
Great Jim but not as you now it, so to sum up the new motor then { she canna take it Captain!) enjoy and thanks for the videos!!!
I hope she can 😁
No surprise Jim, you do mention them in most videos! Lol 😂
I know, right?
My Citroen C4 Picasso Grand has just been w/off in an accident, absolutely gutted as I loved it. Anyway after test driving another brand of car and was really disappointed, my husband just said well if you want that smooth comfortable ride again then you will have to look at getting another Citroen as this is what they are well known for. I wanted a good size car but wasn't in need of an Estate car anymore as our boys are grown up now.
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Very honest and transparent review, Jim. Always admired Citroens ….from a distance! Their reputation for problems (French cars generally tbf) has always put me off entering into ownership. I look forward to your regular updates on this one.
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the answer is find a vat registered independant Like Pleiades of Sawtry in cambridgeshire there are a few dotted around the country that specilise. the C5 aircross doesnt have any quirky suspension systems underneath it looks like any other modern car suspension wise there is nothing to scare potential buyers these days.
Very nice fella. Just keep an eye out on the 1.2 pure tech engines. I believe the T belt gets sprayed or sits in oil and over time the belt swells and starts to rub against the block. Might be worth getting belt done well before it's due. 👍
Yes mate, from what I understand it’s not a problem in this latest revision but it’s so easy to keep an eye on the belt that I will keep ‘em peeled 👍👍👍
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru i wrote my comment not long before you mentioned it in the video. 🤣 I was looking at getting a C4 cactus last year before i found that out.
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Very Honest appraisal.
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Great review Jim, meant to say, whilst watching RUclips you came up as an advert with Onto!! Was like I recognise that chap!! Haha
Haha, that’s so funny. I actually saw about a second of one the other day. I had no idea they were using my video for their ad 😂
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru need your cut haha!!
@@Leonfr_2022 they gave me that Fiat 500e for a month and part of the deal was they could use the footage. They did the same with a lot of people so quite flattered that they used mine!
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru that's good, you deserve some spotlight! 👏
@@Leonfr_2022 cheers mate, next stop Top Gear 😂
Great video, shame you couldn't budget a 180 bhp flair +, it'd have mitigated most of your minus points. Nearly 4 years I drive one and really love the experience
I’d didn’t want the 180 bhp to be fair, this one is perfectly adequate. 👍
Thanks for sharing this
No worries
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Thanks! 👍
Great review
Gracias Jefazo
love this car
It certainly does the job well enough for us
First registered in Glasgow .
Probably supplied by Arnold Clark Glasgow Citroen at the end of 2020.
While the C5 Aircross has only been around for five years, a few common problems have made themselves known, including:
Interior wear and scratching
Computer software issues
DPF issues ( diesel models)
Poorly welded components
I think it was!
Seems the DPF is programmed to bleat then fail at predetermined time? Put me off.
Honest review Jim. Interestingly, here in Australia, Citroen's 2021 sales totalled 175, yes, that's just 175 sales for the whole country for the whole year. When combined with Peugeot, the total sales volume for both was 2805 out of approx 1m cars sold. Neither are really seen as mainstream models here. Reliability? As the owner of a service and repair workshop specialising in European and Swedish cars, we do see Citroen and Peugeot over represented for the size of the vehicle population. We have one of each on hoists at the moment waiting for (expensive) parts. I hope your C5 is going to serve you well. At least you have a shorter supply chain than we do here.
That’s a crazy thought, they’re everywhere over here. This is one model that doesn’t seem to have many faults (other than the stereo system pooping the bed) and with a 3 year full warranty it should do us ok for a bit. Nice car to drive in fairness, just dull. It shares parts over with most new Vauxhall, Peugeot, DS etc so they’re easy to get parts for here.
I’d love to have the choice that you have over there, I’d have a battered old V8 Ute without a doubt 😁
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru- Did you pay for extended warranty then?If car was 2 years old and had me year manufacturer's warranty remaining, how did you get additional 2 years (if you don't mind me asking)?
@@TheMisterB2u yes, I paid about £400 for an additional 2 years after the final year expired.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Thanks for prompt reply.Looking at C5 aircross secondhand or bite the bullet and get the new C4 (as I don't really need 580l boot!
@@TheMisterB2u well mine will be £17,500, 21k miles
I love my C5 aircross hybrid 👍
Good to hear!
What's the mpg you get
Interesting choice....somehow thought it was the big Hyundai !
If I could have afforded a new one...or leased one :(
The 2.0 diesel version is good.
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The fusebox if you think about it is always on the pavement side in the UK , Id rather be standing on the peavement fitting a new fuse that in the road with the drivers door open esspecially somewhere where I cant turn around or find a place to park. Ive got a 30 k 2019 1.5 diesel flair model it does around 60 to the gallon at 65 miles an hour and its extreemly comfortable on long journeys and the air comfort suspension is brilliant on UK roads. There are no airbags on the C5 Aircross the shocks look like standard shocks but they have been redeveloped by Citroen with rubber bump stops inside the top and bottom of the shocks this absorbs impacts slower than standard shock absorbers taking up any bumps in the road. I had a Citroen Xantia 1.9td estate and it was 18 years old before it died reliability on Citroens is never an issue if you take care of them. like any other make on the road. I had to do a bit of leg work to find out the service intervals for the EAT8 auto gearbox and found out that it is every 60k or four years. at least it has a proper syncromesh gearbox and not a renault dry dual clutch system which wears out and needs replacing eventually. The EAT8 Box has no dual mass flywheel saving a significant amount of weight that you are lugging around in the engine bay aiding better fuel economny.
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one last thing , if you use the sports button you will notice that the gearbox holds back in lower gears and increases the rev range between the gears this is particularly handy when towing or hill climbing.@@DefinitelyNotAGuru
Nice review.
Don’t like the wet cam belt. Ford Mondeo have the same thing. Most change them to a chain.
Best replacement ever.
I'm not bothered to be fair, chains are not without issue (BMW)
True.
But those engines are more complicated. Those 3 cylinder engines are very good. Bar the cam belt.
‘Parlez vous Francais?’ Jim? I hope so, because that car will make you suffer for not being able to speak the lingo 😂…
I almost guessed right on your last vid (although I think I called the Peugeot ‘5008’ because I’m an idiot 😩). I hope it serves you well, it’ll be interesting to see how it goes.
It’s a shame you didn’t go for the Reliant Rialto with go faster stripe and fat max tyres, but I suppose it not having 3 seats in the rear was the deciding factor 🤔.
That’s 100% it, if it had 3 seats in the back it would be the Rialto for sure. 😂😂
Great review thank you. Very close to buying this car. We have a Labrador, is the boot high/big enough for him?
I’d say yes to both but you know your dog better than me. The boot is a very good size.
the eat8 is a japanese AISIN, the same as in toyota and lexus
Yep, Japanese copy of a German box.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru it is what it is 😆
I've had the 1.6 petrol (180bhp) flair plus eat8 for the last 34 months on a 3 year lease and it's been faultless from day one! Goes back 1st week of March and it will be very much missed! Cupra formentor on its way! A very honest review may I say...👍
Thanks mate, Formentor is a nice car too!
oi pal was it glossy black with sunroof 69 plates? I think I'm the next owner --- has exactly same specs and age you mentioned
@@gregv.8564 sorry mate it was volcano red...
@@paulgraves7949 awww haha that would've been a coincidence right - did you find the break pedal was a bit flappy or that the very few cm of the break pedal as you step on it is a bit non-reactionary and takes a bit deeper press for it to activate? not sure if that's the citroen style or if perhaps it needs servicing - works splendid though just has a bit of "empty action" for a cm before it starts taking effect. drove hyundai before and pedals are robust and stiff (not in a bad way)
@@paulgraves7949 oi mate how do you find formentor's suspension mate (if you already got it)? missing citroen?
The joy's of family life👍😉
😂😂😂 I'm delighted that we went for this instead of an RS6; I'm sure I would've hated it.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru 🤣🤣😵💫
Do you think most 2 car families are going to downsize to something like your Citroen.🤔
@@garywise306 it’s a pretty big car to be fair
Thanks for honest review, looking at this or 3005 Peugeot as new car.Peugeot looks a bit posher(subjective I know)
Wet timing belt means a fair cost to replace every say five years and how did you get 1 year warranty plus another 2 years when car was already two years old
Bought from a main dealer who offered the extended warranty. I’m selling this in the next couple of weeks as will have a new project for the channel. Just put it through a major service and it’s first MOT with no issues.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Look forward to your new project,any heads up ?
@@TheMisterB2u nope 😉
I,ve had 2 new Citroens, did,nt like them much but they never let me down. My new Golf was the most unreliable car air ever had and I grew to hate it.
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I actually think they are quite cool looking cars
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Jim, what have you done?!!! Surely something from the VW group comes to mind. (Karoc?) Nothing worse than an underpowered car imo. You will be shot of it within 2 years. Keep the videos coming. 👍
It’s my wife’s car really as I’m always driving review cars.
On that not, I drive more cars than anyone I know (other motoring journos aside), and I know a thing or two about cars and what’s best for our specific use case.
1) it’s not at all underpowered, 2) VAG reliability has been appalling of late and a used DSG can be a ticking timebomb.
It’s not at all interesting but it’s the best car for the job with the budget we had.
Trust me, I know. 👍👍👍
VW group cars are so dull in my opinion. Especially Skoda. Peugeot, Citroën/DS more interesting cars. The French are on a roll these days.
hny from Scotland Jim
And to you too!
What do you think about the Citroën c3 aircross 19 model? Thinking for myself no family yet
Same as this really, not very exciting but a very capable and pretty comfortable car. Just avoid the diesels.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru thanks and would it be as reliable too?
@@faddyoraha7151 make sure it’s had all the recalls and stick with petrol, electrics are the only real issue (infotainment being one) but nothing to my knowledge that going to cost a great deal to put right.
Sportage vs C5 aircross, considering 10k difference. Does it worth to buy (c5)?
C5 is a decent car for the money
I am a newly qualified driving instructor and would like to buy this for the students and for me.
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Decent car, how much did you buy it for ?
19k with the 2 year warranty on top of the remaining 1 year.
Jim I’m thinking of getting a tracker fitted on mine is it worth it🥳
I suppose if it's knicked then yes but I wouldn't bother on anything other than Range Rover/Porsche/Bentley etc personally
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru ok cheers
I knew it!!! 😂😂
Winner!!!
Can someone tell me how this car compares to a Dacia (Duster)? Especially interested in the handling, the outside noise level and the comfort of the driving seats.
I prefer the C5 over the Duster in pretty much every respect.
Thanks for the quick reply@@DefinitelyNotAGuru ! Do you happen to know if the C3 Aircross has the same build quality?
I don’t I’m afraid
Really torn pal, looking to lease one of these cars top spec version
But then seen the Tiguan r line for 50quid more a month
Stuck🙈
To be fair, they both do pretty much the same thing but personally, if you can afford the £50 per month, I'd probably go for the Tiguan R Line. I would still buy this over a Tiguan as I'd not be desperate to own something with a DSG for the long term (happy to lease a new one though!). The VW is a bit more refined, slightly better quality interior and slightly more pleasurable to drive but the ride comfort won't be quite as good as it is in the Citroen.
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru thanks for your input pal, also got 3 kids in the back 2 small boosters and a baby seat and they fit in the Tiguan but citron is better in back, wife just really loved the look of them r lines thats the problem ha
@@muzzer8869 Ah ok!! with the 3 in the back I'd go for the Citroen (and look, I did!!).
How much did it set you back?
19k with the extended warranty
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Thanks Baz
As others have said, a lot of people need to make a practical choice when it comes to cars and not go for the super duper nice car they really want.
I might have to change my lovely V60 soon which is top spec and lots of options, but has a lot of money sitting in it. It's hard to accept that I might need to swap it for a focus or something similar especially when the world of social media is people always going big with their cars, 'you only live once' kind of attitude, so I think there's a lot of pressure to up your budget constantly.
Don’t listen to social media, it’s full of idiots like me 😁. Totally agree though Josh.
Driving what you can afford and what makes practical sense is something that should be applauded rather than trying to keep up with the Jones’s or a shouty influencer bloke who’s in tons of debt with 3 Mclarens 👍
Nothing wrong with mine fella goes like stink off a dogs a___,
Dont forget that Peugeot own Citroen now I will be getting the newer version in a month .
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But..why ONLY Apple carplay
.not android connection? Crazy. Or what?
It’s got both
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I'm surprised you've gone for a Citroen if your reason for not sticking with the VW Touran was on grounds of poor reliability.
Google the list of common faults on a Touran then do the same on a 1.2 Petrol C5 Aircross. I know my cars better than most to be fair mate. Vag reliability has been poor for a while and Citroen have been getting much better.
Citroen unreliability is more myth than fact. Also, VW seem to be having quite a few customer complaints in regards to their rust warranties, the "VW don't rust" myth. They just don't recognise the problem until it causes a hole and customers have been taking them to task.
Have a cheeky ecu remap
£250 gets you 155bhp and 200lbs/ft 😇
We just don’t need it, it’s fine as it is 👍
You keep making videos like this and you will be swapping that for a Range!
I don't see how makign terrible videos is going to help 😂👍
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru you’re videos are great. The finance ones really help and love the new car!
That glovebox. 🙈
Idiotic design
Not sure how you expect this car to survive 10 years..
Ok, thanks for your input
My interest in them always stops at the pathetic 3 yr warranty & the fact they can't be bothered to shift the fuse box. In the scheme of things two small, easily overcome matters they could do something about and bring themselves into line with better manufacturers like Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, heck even MG. But no they can't be bothered so neither can I, never will be.
ok
Have one caveat , only 130 bhp in a fairly big car . Hmmm.
As I said in the video, I had that doubt before driving one. It's not lacking for power and will never tow.
This is NOT a ZF based gearbox. Nothing to do with ZF. It's a Japanese Aisin construction.
It’s a ZF clone made by Aisin as I clearly said in the video. Chill out brother.
hhahahaha that fusebox
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@@DefinitelyNotAGuru It feels great to be on the top spot 🤣🤣🤣
@@nickyboy. Well deserved champ
@@DefinitelyNotAGuru Appreciate the recognition, kind sir!
@@nickyboy. if I was wearing a hat I'd doff it
Not impressed with those mpg figures, my 10 year old Peugeot 308 will do 70mpg at 70mph on motorways, and 56:mpg around town , also those wet belts need replacing every 60k at a cost off £700
What a good job that I bought it and you didn’t 😂 I don’t want a diesel and don’t care about the belt change cost (which is £500 where I am). MPG is not an issue for us as it will probably do 6k per year.
@@DefinitelyNotAGurualso comparing a 308 to a big SUV (?!)
Jim you've no chance of getting a decade use out of a Citroen. It will soon develop problems like with all french car's mark my word.
If it does it will go to the dealership around the corner and be carried out under warranty. The parts used on this are in plentiful supply and nice and cheap too. Delighted with our purchase.
Cars nowadays are not made with long term use in mind anyway, but go out there in Europe and you see Citroens with easily 20 - 30 years use . It's about looking after them. This Citroen unreliability myth is quite unfortunate.
And. Boot space..why only litres, not including cubic feet??? 78 year olds remember life before metric. Remember IMPERIAL MEASUREMENTS?
Didn’t the change happen about 45 or 50 years ago? I think we can safely move on.
Looks very impressive.. thanks for your efforts 👍
Many thanks Jock