@pjansen2010 i agree the Balsitol beats it in the all around picture, well it beats them all, but the CLP impressed me. Balistol os not a harsh chem, so it will not mess up delicate wood areas of the gun and it leaves a smooth silky film behind witch makes gun run smoother and makes it more reliable,
You needed to test these articles on simple, ungalvanized mild steel. There may have been some galvanization left of those hinges - giving you a false result.
+Dan Elliott Exactly what I was thinking after that first test.She should be using the cut offs from rifle barrels,or the same exact steel.Like 4140,4150.
the three should have been in individual tins of the same solution. Placing all 3 in the same tin allows all 3 to be exposed to both products in your test.
Get real if you think it made that big of a difference run your own test. Peroxide, vinegar and sea salt are not going to transfer the key ingredients from one to the other. You would need a solvent that is non-polar to the extreme that could dissolve the non-polar oils and such from those products. Most petroleum products are not at all polar. The Peroxide and the Vinegar are are mostly water which is very polar. You guys are as bad as Corvette owners that wont let their wives park their car in the same garage as the Vette during winter out of fear that road salt will magically travel across the floor or in the air and attack their car. Never mind Corvettes are mostly fiberglass for the body! LOL If they are so frail and fragile that salt from the body of the wife's daily driver parked in the same garage is too much to handle than the car is a failure. We are talking in solution for 60 seconds. If this solution is able to wash that much off how would it attach itself to the other part in sufficient amounts to invalidate the results? Would it have been better to put the solution in a spray bottle and suspend the parts from string for the testing? Yes sure but to say her results are completely with out merit is just silly!
great test!! CLP did very good, the thing with balistol is its known that it dosent dry up it stays moist for a long time. i think differently about CLP now thanks for this.
@Megzamani I didn't realize so many would take my little "just for fun" comparison so seriously :D It's neat to see the ideas it has generated with other people though... if I wanted, I could do a whole series just on the ideas people have given through comments like yours. Thanks for the recommendations! I have to try to narrow all the suggestions down for the next vidja haha
@mattdeal09 I actually spent over an hour sanding the chrome off each hinge equally. But this was just a "for fun" comparison of the two products, not a thorough evaluation. No worries, when I actually use gun cleaning/oiling products, I use a combination of copper brushes and cotton patches. Although, I did just pick up a new brass brush yesterday... looking forward to seeing how effective that will be. ;] Thanks for taking the time to give me your feedback :D
@binyamj I've been using Hoppe's #9 and RemOil up to this point, but seeing as I had easy access to these two products and hadn't tried them... I decided that meant it was a good time to test them out against each other, you know? Thank you for watching my little spin on this comparison between the two products.
well thanks young lady its you whose to blame! Me and my buddy Florida Fred tried to re enact yer video. Except when we lit the hinge on far with the gun powder things got out of hand. Fred got some on his hair which immediately burst into flame and he went running down the street screaming like a woman. I of course ran after fred but as he is 120 # and i'm about 350, i wasnt closing fast at all. Refusing to drop the triple cheeseburger in my hand didn't do none for my speed either. Bein how we's both on probation for a similar incident in Tennesee, it made me a bit scared to see cops nearby, but thinking fast i screamed at them "WE ARE JUST REENACTING GAME OF THRONES! DONT WORRY GUYS I GOT THIS!" As we ran away to their astonished stares Fred rounded the corner and jumped in a deep causeway putting out the far! Amazingly Fred's face was fine! (his hair is only an inch thick). We both breathed a relieved "WHEW" just as the cops pulled up after all! As they were handcuffing me, Fred was eaten by a large 12 foot gator. So now i'm doing time and fred sleeps with the fishes (more like gators really).
OK, it took me 3 days to watch the whole video because of my crazy schedule but well worth it. Great job of giving each product a fair shake. I think most of these products work pretty good, it then comes down to preference and maybe price. lol. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. : )
Firearms Barrels are metallurgical different form your test medium, So much so that when Japans "Nissan Nippon" corporation took over the production of firearms barrels from the US firms of Winchester and others they were mandated to Emboss the words "Special Steel" on all the components they produced. not to mention there is a difference between smokeless powder and "Gunpowder" Smokeless powder is designed to burn at a pressure curve. Open burning as in the test will leave abnormal residue. Even so the control an other test mediums should be placed in separate containers so that they do not interact or emulsify in the water of the test group as a whole. That being said 3 separate containers of Barrel cross sections under the same test would have yielded more relevant results.
She was not testing the materials she was testing the lubricants ability to form a barrier to the metal and and prevent the oxidation process. It would not matter if she used a clean brake rotor for the test since she is testing the lubricants not the material! Hydrogen Peroxide is an oxidizer and vinegar is a mild acid. Exactly in what way would smokeless powder make a difference chemically or mechanically in this test? If I burn a person house down with Kerosene instead of gasoline is the outcome different by a statistically significant amount? On top of that people use the word gunpowder generically. Modern "Gun Powder" that people buy for various "Black Powder" uses has nothing in common with ancient "gunpowder" they are basically all made with modern chemistry and have more in common with smokeless powder then they do ancient real gunpowder! Chemistry and Science not heresy and supposition. Do your own test and show us the results that invalidate her testing methodology!
Great test. First time I've seen a test with gunpowder. Makes sense considering that is normally what you are cleaning off the weapons, for the most part.
Damn you had me so drawn into your experiment, i was giddy with excitement on CLP VS Ballistol. Once all 3 samples were dipped and left in the same water solution, i realized i was wasting my time and ill just listen to hicock.
Not sure why the same water would throw you off??? Different pans of water would create a variable. The same pan of water provides a consistent medium.
I happened to work with Haz Mat Chems, and cross contamination is unacceptable. In this test of course, for the simple minded people, it does not matter. But to someone like me, You will not get a accurate test using this videos method. Use the same brand pans, and same water source, BUT different pan for each chemical. Its a basic in chemistry.
+MrTdw1954 There's a pretty good chance the CLP you're buying isn't the same as the CLP the military uses. Sold in stores at 20% solvent, the military is using 40% solvent. And btw, just because the military is using something doesn't mean it's the best. The military also loves saving money.
@snowlothar Glad you found something that works for you :D I had never used either product before this test, so I thought it would be a fun comparison. Thanks for your input, and thanks for watching!
I really like Ballistol for cleaning and lube. Thanks to Hickok45 in 2009 for turning me on to it. I`ve never seen one flake of rust! Thanks for your experiment.
@CaptainBerz I don't know - sounds like something I'll have to try :] I let them sit for a few seconds... 30, maybe? Just for a preliminary comparison. Glad you liked the idea, though. Thanks, man.
@MrMauriceObrien Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. I love Walmart, but I swear I can *never* leave without buying more than I intended lol Thanks for watching. I'm glad you liked it.
So when you clean your weapon you do not clean off the surface you just keep applying more oil to it with out ever wiping off excess and the like? By what process does Ballistol build? It is not a varnish it does not build with each layer. Once the surface is saturated and the excess has ran off no more oil can wet the metal. Metal is not a sponge that just keep soaking up solvents and oils. Even a sponge has a limit to what it can absorb and once that limit is reached that is it. That is why we have to wring out towels and sponges once they have reached their limit! Can you point to any research that contradicts what I am saying? When have you ever applied an oil with a rag and seen a film build and build and build. If that happened in real life you would have an issue with a .650 muzzle becoming larger and larger in diameter as oil was applied. If I fill a mold with varnish or polyurethane and epoxy and back it in the oven at some point I can remove it from the mold and it will hold it's shape. If I put oil in a mold and back it in the oven if I try to remove the oil from the mold it will not hold it's shape. Use some common sense only Infomercials for things like engine additives claim things soak into the metal! LOL
buckaroobonsi555 It could be more like a cast iron frying pan... you need to season it before using it. If you don't, it seems everything sticks to it but once it's seasoned, it acts kind of non-stick like... similarly, I wonder if having a thin film of Ballistol or any CLP and then heating it by firing rounds through it, if the barrel will get a bit seasoned like the cast iron pan. That might explain heltonjkv96's experience... but if so, that may not be unique to Ballistol but more of a function of regular use and a heating of the barrel with the oil in it through that use.
The super-heated gasses from the burned powder are going through the barrel, too, which means that the powder residues are also getting into the barrel.
@xtremearmor Thanks much :] I'm glad you enjoyed that. You know, X4CTO also recommended Weapon Shield to me. Guess I'll have to check it out ;] There really are a lot of options on the market to clean/oil your guns... but I've always been a fan of having options. Thanks for watching!
Nice scientific review. You were objective and I especially like how you also had a control item so that I could compare it to the two test items. Your review is so much better than the usual opinion pieces that are usually found on RUclips. I use CLP Break Free but was considering using Ballistol bit your review saved me some time. Thanks, keep up the good work.
I prefer Balistol. Wonderful as a lube, and effective as a cleaner. Can be mixed with water for corrosive ammo or black powder. Stays "wet" longer for storage and no harsh chemicals to worry about. It will condition metals so after a few uses it cleans even better. No worries about plastics or wood, and in fact is beneficial to wood.
@TheMinisterofDefence Yeah, this was not meant to be a comprehensive, definitive test, just one comparison (see notes for vid) I'm actually very pleased about the intelligent responses I have received similar to yours though :]
@12gn12 I'm a fan of Hoppe's. It has worked for me up to this point :] But then again, I'm pretty accepting of a cleaner, so long as by the end of the day, my guns are clean haha Yeah, I believe Ballistol is more common in Europe. You may just have to order it online :/ Thanks for your info, and thanks for watching.
@moses2781 Yeah, this was not meant to be a comprehensive, definitive test, just one comparison (see notes for vid) I'm actually very pleased about the intelligent responses I have received similar to yours though :]
Very good job, no matter what others may say, though I agree gun barrels aren't treated the same as those hinges. It does, though, show a good side-by-side comparison. The thing I don't like about Ballistol is that it's a two-in-one product. It's always best to get a product that does one thing very well, like the Break Free.
@glynn72 I completely agree with you. Just makes more sense that an all-in-one would not be as effective as using individually dedicated products, no? Thanks!
Great comparison review! The CLP definitely did better for cleaning in this video, but the fact that Ballistol is non-toxic is what sells me on it. I can get it all over everything and use it indoors without worrying about inhaling toxic fumes.
Oh, and sorry. I was too busy rambling my opinions and forgot to thank you for taking the time to show a comparison of products for those of us that enjoy and appreciate the rest results. Thank you
@KiloSierraAlpha If that's the case, that sounds like a nice setup... I love free stuff lol I don't think it smells bad... I actually didn't like the smell of the CLP. But I do think the CLP did better than the Ballistol with these tests. Thanks for your input, and for watching ;]
I love the fun comparison. My choice is Ballistol, simply because it dosent absorb thru the skin and damage your liver or central nervous system like the other solvents. I can clean all day long and never have to worry about poisoning myself or family!
@FogCityTactical I hadn't used either product before this test, but had heard plenty of recommendations for both, so I thought it would be fun to see how they compared against each other.
@PonchTX I think it's worth checking out and seeing for yourself what you like. I'll have to check out that non-spray version... Thanks for the recommendation :]
@Babyglockster27 I end up using a combination of Ballistol, Hoppe's No. 9 and CLP now that I have the options at hand. Kind of depends on what I'm cleaning and how dirty it is. I'm not picky :]
Great video.....I mix 70% ballistol with 30% Kroil penetrating oil in a spray bottle. Spray on and brush or wipe off. For barrels, I use Bore Tech Eliminator with patches and nylon brushes. Then my ballistol Kroil mix with a bronze brush. Final step is a few patches of Sweet's on a plastic jag to check for copper fouling. Usually the Sweet's patches will indicate a clean bore. If I'm satisfied, I push a few patches with oil through the barrel. Sounds like a lot of work, but there's something satisfying about knowing your handguns are clean.
@glock2026 Lol Thank you for the support :] I just thought it would be fun to do a couple preliminary tests to compare products before I tried them out.
It seems to me that the Break Free CLP can sprays with more velocity, causing it to dispense more product as well as aerating it to create a foaming effect. I would say that using a little more Ballistol and letting it sit longer would have comparable results to the Break Free CLP. I usually individually apply the cleaning solution to each part of my firearms that needs to be cleaned. Once they are all saturated, I give them at least 3 minutes to sit, then go back and scrub them down in the same order that I applied the cleaning solution to them. It might just be my OCD kicking in at that point but, Break Free CLP and Ballistol have worked equally as well for me using that method.
The best Gun Solvent I ever used on guns is a solvent called Strike Hold. It blows away CLP, Ballistol, or Hoppes#9. The only place I can find it though is on Amazon. The reviews on it back up what I’m saying!
@3DCree That's a very subjective quality... I hear a lot of people hate the smell of Ballistol, but I like it. Kind of smells like... chocolate and black licorice. However, it is definitely more pungent than CLP (which I have no preference for or against its smell).
@ZeaMoore4 I feel that both of them get the job done... but it seems CLP gets it done a little better, at least for these tests. I still have to test out the lubrication. Still working out the details on that bit. lol
@RecklessMethodsTV I've been using Hoppe's #9 all this time, but I figured it would be fun to put these two through some tests since I had never used them before. Sounds like CLP is very versatile! lol
@lakelex Wow, thank you. That's kind of you to say. From what I understand from what others have said (I'm far from an expert) is that the stain on the "CLP" hinge was a result of the metal being scorched and has nothing to do with the chemicals. But like I said, I'm not an expert - just what a few people have told me. Could be wrong. I think for part two I'm going to test viscosity/lubrication and corrosion removal. Just ran out of time lol
@omen351 Two parts hydrogen peroxide, one part vinegar, and then a couple tablespoons of sea salt. (Not an "exact" formula, but if you experiment with it a little, you'll figure out what proportions work best for ya.)
@coldbeer338 I totally agree that hinges are not firearms lol But I wasn't testing that, either - only comparing one gun solvent/oil against the other, just for fun :] That's also why I used paper towel instead of nylon or brass brushes (as I use when I'm cleaning my guns). Thanks for your feedback! And thanks for watching ;]
I've been using CLP on my firearms. One of the things I like about CLP is that after multiple applications through routine maintenance, it seems like my firearms are easier to clean, as fouling sticks to them less and less. I'm sure Ballistol does a handy job as well, but my only experience is with CLP.
@grizz474 I used chrome-coated hinges, and spent equal time, pressure, and grit of sandpaper to remove the coating equally for each hinge. Took wayyy longer than I had wanted it to, but I thought it was still worthwhile to give me a fair comparison, you know? I've never been afraid of using a little elbow grease, or getting my hands dirty. This test had a good deal of both lol But I'm not a scientist or anything... this was only a casual comparison just for fun (I enjoy them, too!). Thankya!
True indeed... I like the multipurpose functionality of Ballistol too... agreed. Yeah a friend of mine sent me some Weapon Shield awhile back and I started using it on my guns, pretty good stuff indeed. There are just so many options out there. HAHA... love the bracelets, keep on rockin' them! Definitely a worthy cause!
Probably been said before but here's my $0.02. A) the hindges are low carbon steel not high carbon like a barrel B) it looks like you used "black powder" instead of modern gun powder. The stain on the clp one reminds me of the discoloration you get when you heat low carbon steel to add carbon to it to slightly strengthen it. If Black powder was used it has special solvents that have to be used to break it down during the cleaning process. When I was in the Army, we used CLP only to clean our rifles so I have a love/hate with CLP.
She is testing the lubricant not the steel alloy. Even if it was modern gunpowder and not technicly smokless powder it would not matter. Modern gunpowder like fffg has almost nothing in common with ancient black powder and it basically a modern replacement for black powder. Everything we use today is some form of Gunpwder it is just most of us use smokeless gunpowder's. Shaun what special solvents where they using back when true black powder was being used. I am dying to hear what super solvent the British and Colonist where using or the North and South during the American Civil War! They where lubing their guns with lard for crying out load!
@gard751 I like how it foams up and gets into those "nooks and crannies" where it's a little tricky to get sometimes... I've had a couple other people mention Gunzilla, too, but I haven't seen it before.
@socal2127 It is a little like that lol I just hadn't used either, so I thought it would be interesting to see how they performed against each other, you know? Thanks for watching :]
@JimmyCricket61258 My pleasure :] I'm glad you think it's a decent comparison. I agree - I think they're both pretty good products, just appears to me (from these tests, at least) that perhaps the CLP performed a little better. :]
Great comparison Destinee. I would like to try Ballistol, but no one sells it in my area, I would have to mail order it. The break free is available everywhere. I just use Hoppes anyway LOL. Thanks for the torture test.
@pjansen2010 i agree the Balsitol beats it in the all around picture, well it beats them all, but the CLP impressed me. Balistol os not a harsh chem, so it will not mess up delicate wood areas of the gun and it leaves a smooth silky film behind witch makes gun run smoother and makes it more reliable,
@dergible That sounds like a ton of fun... Thanks for checking out the vidja. I'm glad you like it. Take care.
You needed to test these articles on simple, ungalvanized mild steel. There may have been some galvanization left of those hinges - giving you a false result.
+Dan Elliott Exactly what I was thinking after that first test.She should be using the cut offs from rifle barrels,or the same exact steel.Like 4140,4150.
the three should have been in individual tins of the same solution. Placing all 3 in the same tin allows all 3 to be exposed to both products in your test.
Get real if you think it made that big of a difference run your own test. Peroxide, vinegar and sea salt are not going to transfer the key ingredients from one to the other. You would need a solvent that is non-polar to the extreme that could dissolve the non-polar oils and such from those products. Most petroleum products are not at all polar. The Peroxide and the Vinegar are are mostly water which is very polar. You guys are as bad as Corvette owners that wont let their wives park their car in the same garage as the Vette during winter out of fear that road salt will magically travel across the floor or in the air and attack their car. Never mind Corvettes are mostly fiberglass for the body! LOL If they are so frail and fragile that salt from the body of the wife's daily driver parked in the same garage is too much to handle than the car is a failure. We are talking in solution for 60 seconds. If this solution is able to wash that much off how would it attach itself to the other part in sufficient amounts to invalidate the results? Would it have been better to put the solution in a spray bottle and suspend the parts from string for the testing? Yes sure but to say her results are completely with out merit is just silly!
I've used CLP in the army and ever since. Love it! I don' t like the stuff in the aerosol can though. I prefer the plain liquid stuff.
@empxd40 Aww :/ But thanks for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed my spin on this. :]
great test!! CLP did very good, the thing with balistol is its known that it dosent dry up it stays moist for a long time. i think differently about CLP now thanks for this.
@TheMinisterofDefence As always, thanks so much for checking out my vid and giving me your perspective. I really do appreciate it.
I think I'll be sticking with CLP for a while, yet.
Great video, very informative, thanks!
@FirecloudNine Thank you, my friend. I'm glad you enjoyed my little "for fun" comparison. Thanks for your input ;] I alsway love your comments.
@Megzamani I didn't realize so many would take my little "just for fun" comparison so seriously :D It's neat to see the ideas it has generated with other people though... if I wanted, I could do a whole series just on the ideas people have given through comments like yours. Thanks for the recommendations! I have to try to narrow all the suggestions down for the next vidja haha
@SlideLock1 Thank you, kindly. I'm glad you like it :D
@mattdeal09 I actually spent over an hour sanding the chrome off each hinge equally. But this was just a "for fun" comparison of the two products, not a thorough evaluation. No worries, when I actually use gun cleaning/oiling products, I use a combination of copper brushes and cotton patches. Although, I did just pick up a new brass brush yesterday... looking forward to seeing how effective that will be. ;] Thanks for taking the time to give me your feedback :D
@NeptuneBlueZ My pleasure. I'm glad you enjoyed it :] And thanks for watching!
I've seen our boys use CLP in combat in Afghanistan on weapons to keep them firing. That's good enough for me.
The germans used ballistol jn the trenches of WW1 to the seas of WW2
I seen them use a toothbrush to clean floors too. Just joking around, I get what your saying.
@@kobeculpitt114 how did they fare in WW2?
The CLP used by the military is not the same as what is sold to consumers.
@@UKSportsFan too soon
@binyamj I've been using Hoppe's #9 and RemOil up to this point, but seeing as I had easy access to these two products and hadn't tried them... I decided that meant it was a good time to test them out against each other, you know? Thank you for watching my little spin on this comparison between the two products.
well thanks young lady its you whose to blame! Me and my buddy Florida Fred tried to re enact yer video. Except when we lit the hinge on far with the gun powder things got out of hand. Fred got some on his hair which immediately burst into flame and he went running down the street screaming like a woman. I of course ran after fred but as he is 120 # and i'm about 350, i wasnt closing fast at all. Refusing to drop the triple cheeseburger in my hand didn't do none for my speed either. Bein how we's both on probation for a similar incident in Tennesee, it made me a bit scared to see cops nearby, but thinking fast i screamed at them "WE ARE JUST REENACTING GAME OF THRONES! DONT WORRY GUYS I GOT THIS!" As we ran away to their astonished stares Fred rounded the corner and jumped in a deep causeway putting out the far! Amazingly Fred's face was fine! (his hair is only an inch thick). We both breathed a relieved "WHEW" just as the cops pulled up after all! As they were handcuffing me, Fred was eaten by a large 12 foot gator. So now i'm doing time and fred sleeps with the fishes (more like gators really).
Can't say she did'nt warn you!!
How is it her fault if you got hurt trying to replicate her testing? Did she make you do at gun point? Get real! Be responsible for your own actions.
Same thing happened to me. That is why I now use Ballistol instead of cheeseburgers.
OK, it took me 3 days to watch the whole video because of my crazy schedule but well worth it. Great job of giving each product a fair shake. I think most of these products work pretty good, it then comes down to preference and maybe price. lol. Thanks for taking the time to do this video. : )
Firearms Barrels are metallurgical different form your test medium, So much so that when Japans "Nissan Nippon" corporation took over the production of firearms barrels from the US firms of Winchester and others they were mandated to Emboss the words "Special Steel" on all the components they produced. not to mention there is a difference between smokeless powder and "Gunpowder" Smokeless powder is designed to burn at a pressure curve. Open burning as in the test will leave abnormal residue. Even so the control an other test mediums should be placed in separate containers so that they do not interact or emulsify in the water of the test group as a whole. That being said 3 separate containers of Barrel cross sections under the same test would have yielded more relevant results.
She was not testing the materials she was testing the lubricants ability to form a barrier to the metal and and prevent the oxidation process. It would not matter if she used a clean brake rotor for the test since she is testing the lubricants not the material! Hydrogen Peroxide is an oxidizer and vinegar is a mild acid. Exactly in what way would smokeless powder make a difference chemically or mechanically in this test? If I burn a person house down with Kerosene instead of gasoline is the outcome different by a statistically significant amount? On top of that people use the word gunpowder generically. Modern "Gun Powder" that people buy for various "Black Powder" uses has nothing in common with ancient "gunpowder" they are basically all made with modern chemistry and have more in common with smokeless powder then they do ancient real gunpowder! Chemistry and Science not heresy and supposition. Do your own test and show us the results that invalidate her testing methodology!
@thedudecarrying My pleasure. Glad you liked the comparison :]
Great test. First time I've seen a test with gunpowder. Makes sense considering that is normally what you are cleaning off the weapons, for the most part.
@40sigsauer Thanks much :D Glad to hear such positive feedback on it. Looks like it did pretty well with my little tests, at least lol
I would go with the CLP.
@g3seifert Why thankya. I do try to do things differently... glad you liked my take on it.
Damn you had me so drawn into your experiment, i was giddy with excitement on CLP VS Ballistol. Once all 3 samples were dipped and left in the same water solution, i realized i was wasting my time and ill just listen to hicock.
So you didn't like that they were all dip in the same water??
Not sure why the same water would throw you off??? Different pans of water would create a variable. The same pan of water provides a consistent medium.
I happened to work with Haz Mat Chems, and cross contamination is unacceptable.
In this test of course, for the simple minded people, it does not matter. But to someone like me, You will not get a accurate test using this videos method.
Use the same brand pans, and same water source, BUT different pan for each chemical. Its a basic in chemistry.
Exactly! Not sure exactly what was proven here. . .
Your a nasty old coot alright
Only thing i would say is what happens when you let them sit and absorb the products? How long did they sit? This is a cool idea....
When the military stops using CLP I'll switch to whatever they have determined to be better.
+MrTdw1954 There's a pretty good chance the CLP you're buying isn't the same as the CLP the military uses. Sold in stores at 20% solvent, the military is using 40% solvent. And btw, just because the military is using something doesn't mean it's the best. The military also loves saving money.
Get a spray can of Balistol and use it to clean and lubricate some other non carry gun. It does have an unusual smell so don't take a drag of it !
Shady Brady. and get commissions in generals' pockets :)))
thats what they said about the m16 too
Former Army medic here, "good decisions & the military" that's a good joke.
@snowlothar Glad you found something that works for you :D I had never used either product before this test, so I thought it would be a fun comparison. Thanks for your input, and thanks for watching!
I really like Ballistol for cleaning and lube. Thanks to Hickok45 in 2009 for turning me on to it. I`ve never seen one flake of rust! Thanks for your experiment.
@CaptainBerz I don't know - sounds like something I'll have to try :] I let them sit for a few seconds... 30, maybe? Just for a preliminary comparison. Glad you liked the idea, though. Thanks, man.
Neat test...you should try Frog Lube vs Fire Clean
I TRIED IT CHANGED BY VOICE MADE IT MUCH DEEPER!!! LOL
@72cmcinc Thanks :] And yeah, I had fun. Thanks for watching!
CLP is what I use
@MrMauriceObrien Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. I love Walmart, but I swear I can *never* leave without buying more than I intended lol Thanks for watching. I'm glad you liked it.
The Ballistol works the best after multiple applications over time..
So when you clean your weapon you do not clean off the surface you just keep applying more oil to it with out ever wiping off excess and the like? By what process does Ballistol build? It is not a varnish it does not build with each layer. Once the surface is saturated and the excess has ran off no more oil can wet the metal. Metal is not a sponge that just keep soaking up solvents and oils. Even a sponge has a limit to what it can absorb and once that limit is reached that is it. That is why we have to wring out towels and sponges once they have reached their limit! Can you point to any research that contradicts what I am saying? When have you ever applied an oil with a rag and seen a film build and build and build. If that happened in real life you would have an issue with a .650 muzzle becoming larger and larger in diameter as oil was applied. If I fill a mold with varnish or polyurethane and epoxy and back it in the oven at some point I can remove it from the mold and it will hold it's shape. If I put oil in a mold and back it in the oven if I try to remove the oil from the mold it will not hold it's shape. Use some common sense only Infomercials for things like engine additives claim things soak into the metal! LOL
buckaroobonsi555
It could be more like a cast iron frying pan... you need to season it before using it. If you don't, it seems everything sticks to it but once it's seasoned, it acts kind of non-stick like... similarly, I wonder if having a thin film of Ballistol or any CLP and then heating it by firing rounds through it, if the barrel will get a bit seasoned like the cast iron pan. That might explain heltonjkv96's experience... but if so, that may not be unique to Ballistol but more of a function of regular use and a heating of the barrel with the oil in it through that use.
The super-heated gasses from the burned powder are going through the barrel, too, which means that the powder residues are also getting into the barrel.
Really , you tanked it all together ? What a fail !!!!
@xtremearmor Thanks much :] I'm glad you enjoyed that. You know, X4CTO also recommended Weapon Shield to me. Guess I'll have to check it out ;] There really are a lot of options on the market to clean/oil your guns... but I've always been a fan of having options. Thanks for watching!
I like Break Free
@patatuchy My pleasure. :] Thanks for watching!
Have you ever tried LPS-2
Please come back! This was the BEST channel. I'm so sorry if you got demonotized.
@MrEvodeath Thanks Joe, I"m glad you checked it out :]
Nice scientific review. You were objective and I especially like how you also had a control item so that I could compare it to the two test items. Your review is so much better than the usual opinion pieces that are usually found on RUclips. I use CLP Break Free but was considering using Ballistol bit your review saved me some time. Thanks, keep up the good work.
@bgomusicco Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it.
@tiwer1 Glad you liked it - thanks!
@Nytestryker Thanks! I thought it was the coolest/craziest thing to watch the hinges rust right away... neat stuff. Thanks for watching.
Very cool idea and test! I use break free just because it is the most accessible.
I prefer Balistol. Wonderful as a lube, and effective as a cleaner. Can be mixed with water for corrosive ammo or black powder. Stays "wet" longer for storage and no harsh chemicals to worry about. It will condition metals so after a few uses it cleans even better. No worries about plastics or wood, and in fact is beneficial to wood.
@mrmezmureyz Thank you, kindly. I do spend a good deal of time for each, so I'm happy to hear you enjoy them. Thanks.
@TheMinisterofDefence Yeah, this was not meant to be a comprehensive, definitive test, just one comparison (see notes for vid) I'm actually very pleased about the intelligent responses I have received similar to yours though :]
@12gn12 I'm a fan of Hoppe's. It has worked for me up to this point :] But then again, I'm pretty accepting of a cleaner, so long as by the end of the day, my guns are clean haha Yeah, I believe Ballistol is more common in Europe. You may just have to order it online :/ Thanks for your info, and thanks for watching.
@moses2781 Yeah, this was not meant to be a comprehensive, definitive test, just one comparison (see notes for vid) I'm actually very pleased about the intelligent responses I have received similar to yours though :]
Very good job, no matter what others may say, though I agree gun barrels aren't treated the same as those hinges. It does, though, show a good side-by-side comparison. The thing I don't like about Ballistol is that it's a two-in-one product. It's always best to get a product that does one thing very well, like the Break Free.
@deepwater1974 I'm leaning toward it, but I do like Ballistol. Just seemed slightly less effective than the CLP for what tests I did.
@glynn72 I completely agree with you. Just makes more sense that an all-in-one would not be as effective as using individually dedicated products, no? Thanks!
Great comparison review! The CLP definitely did better for cleaning in this video, but the fact that Ballistol is non-toxic is what sells me on it. I can get it all over everything and use it indoors without worrying about inhaling toxic fumes.
Oh, and sorry. I was too busy rambling my opinions and forgot to thank you for taking the time to show a comparison of products for those of us that enjoy and appreciate the rest results. Thank you
@festerwi Cool. Well, hope you enjoyed this, then. :] Thanks for watching!
@jlopes00 Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching ;D
@KiloSierraAlpha If that's the case, that sounds like a nice setup... I love free stuff lol I don't think it smells bad... I actually didn't like the smell of the CLP. But I do think the CLP did better than the Ballistol with these tests. Thanks for your input, and for watching ;]
I love the fun comparison. My choice is Ballistol, simply because it dosent absorb thru the skin and damage your liver or central nervous system like the other solvents. I can clean all day long and never have to worry about poisoning myself or family!
@FogCityTactical I hadn't used either product before this test, but had heard plenty of recommendations for both, so I thought it would be fun to see how they compared against each other.
@PonchTX I think it's worth checking out and seeing for yourself what you like. I'll have to check out that non-spray version... Thanks for the recommendation :]
@Babyglockster27 I end up using a combination of Ballistol, Hoppe's No. 9 and CLP now that I have the options at hand. Kind of depends on what I'm cleaning and how dirty it is. I'm not picky :]
Great video.....I mix 70% ballistol with 30% Kroil penetrating oil in a spray bottle. Spray on and brush or wipe off. For barrels, I use Bore Tech Eliminator with patches and nylon brushes. Then my ballistol Kroil mix with a bronze brush. Final step is a few patches of Sweet's on a plastic jag to check for copper fouling. Usually the Sweet's patches will indicate a clean bore. If I'm satisfied, I push a few patches with oil through the barrel. Sounds like a lot of work, but there's something satisfying about knowing your handguns are clean.
@JAndersonIV I do indeed... I might include it when I test the lubrication properties. :]
@glock2026 Lol Thank you for the support :] I just thought it would be fun to do a couple preliminary tests to compare products before I tried them out.
@eatwatukill Well, cool. Glad you enjoyed the comparison :] Thanks for checking it out.
@SnareFreak04 I do like the Ballistol, but for slightly different applications, you know? I do like the accessibility of the CLP, though.
It seems to me that the Break Free CLP can sprays with more velocity, causing it to dispense more product as well as aerating it to create a foaming effect. I would say that using a little more Ballistol and letting it sit longer would have comparable results to the Break Free CLP. I usually individually apply the cleaning solution to each part of my firearms that needs to be cleaned. Once they are all saturated, I give them at least 3 minutes to sit, then go back and scrub them down in the same order that I applied the cleaning solution to them. It might just be my OCD kicking in at that point but, Break Free CLP and Ballistol have worked equally as well for me using that method.
The best Gun Solvent I ever used on guns is a solvent called Strike Hold. It blows away CLP, Ballistol, or Hoppes#9. The only place I can find it though is on Amazon. The reviews on it back up what I’m saying!
@sniper7369 It is pretty strong-smelling... I don't mind it, but the tiny aerosol particles sometimes make me cough/sneeze.
@sevenedges Never heard of it... but I'd be willing to give it a try :] Sounds like a great product. Thanks for watching!
It's a non conclusive test as the chemical solution that the hinges were soaked in has a cleaning effect as to remove the oil from the surface.
@3DCree That's a very subjective quality... I hear a lot of people hate the smell of Ballistol, but I like it. Kind of smells like... chocolate and black licorice. However, it is definitely more pungent than CLP (which I have no preference for or against its smell).
Not at all - I enjoyed your feedback, and I appreciate that you took the time to share it with me. Thank you ;]
@ZeaMoore4 I feel that both of them get the job done... but it seems CLP gets it done a little better, at least for these tests. I still have to test out the lubrication. Still working out the details on that bit. lol
@MrTotez Cool! I use Hoppes #9, too! Didja see my gun cleaning vid before? I think it did a great job on that lovely Magnum. Thanks for watching ;]
@RecklessMethodsTV I've been using Hoppe's #9 all this time, but I figured it would be fun to put these two through some tests since I had never used them before. Sounds like CLP is very versatile! lol
@lakelex Wow, thank you. That's kind of you to say. From what I understand from what others have said (I'm far from an expert) is that the stain on the "CLP" hinge was a result of the metal being scorched and has nothing to do with the chemicals. But like I said, I'm not an expert - just what a few people have told me. Could be wrong. I think for part two I'm going to test viscosity/lubrication and corrosion removal. Just ran out of time lol
I wonder does it matter if the metal is treated for gun fire like a hand gun barrel. Metal used to make hinges is plain zink coated.
@omen351 Two parts hydrogen peroxide, one part vinegar, and then a couple tablespoons of sea salt. (Not an "exact" formula, but if you experiment with it a little, you'll figure out what proportions work best for ya.)
@PersonalGeek I'm not picky... I'll use whatever's around... Ballistol, CLP, Hoppe's #9...
Looks like 20x clp is being used per application based on how much more comes out with each press of the button
@clap5 Haven't seen any before, but if I come across it, I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the recommendation.
@coldbeer338 I totally agree that hinges are not firearms lol But I wasn't testing that, either - only comparing one gun solvent/oil against the other, just for fun :] That's also why I used paper towel instead of nylon or brass brushes (as I use when I'm cleaning my guns). Thanks for your feedback! And thanks for watching ;]
@Gunluver1 I do think it performed a bit better than the Ballistol for these tests...
Ballistol certainly has a unique odor to it. I'm not too picky about my gun cleaners. If it's easily accessible, and it gets the job done, I'm happy.
I've been using CLP on my firearms. One of the things I like about CLP is that after multiple applications through routine maintenance, it seems like my firearms are easier to clean, as fouling sticks to them less and less. I'm sure Ballistol does a handy job as well, but my only experience is with CLP.
@grizz474 I used chrome-coated hinges, and spent equal time, pressure, and grit of sandpaper to remove the coating equally for each hinge. Took wayyy longer than I had wanted it to, but I thought it was still worthwhile to give me a fair comparison, you know? I've never been afraid of using a little elbow grease, or getting my hands dirty. This test had a good deal of both lol But I'm not a scientist or anything... this was only a casual comparison just for fun (I enjoy them, too!). Thankya!
True indeed... I like the multipurpose functionality of Ballistol too... agreed.
Yeah a friend of mine sent me some Weapon Shield awhile back and I started using it on my guns, pretty good stuff indeed. There are just so many options out there.
HAHA... love the bracelets, keep on rockin' them!
Definitely a worthy cause!
@3DCree My pleasure. Hope you found it interesting :D
@NYstranger74 I end up using a combo of Ballistol, Hoppe's #9, and CLP depending on the part/material and how dirty it is... I'm not picky :]
Probably been said before but here's my $0.02. A) the hindges are low carbon steel not high carbon like a barrel B) it looks like you used "black powder" instead of modern gun powder. The stain on the clp one reminds me of the discoloration you get when you heat low carbon steel to add carbon to it to slightly strengthen it. If Black powder was used it has special solvents that have to be used to break it down during the cleaning process. When I was in the Army, we used CLP only to clean our rifles so I have a love/hate with CLP.
She is testing the lubricant not the steel alloy. Even if it was modern gunpowder and not technicly smokless powder it would not matter. Modern gunpowder like fffg has almost nothing in common with ancient black powder and it basically a modern replacement for black powder. Everything we use today is some form of Gunpwder it is just most of us use smokeless gunpowder's. Shaun what special solvents where they using back when true black powder was being used. I am dying to hear what super solvent the British and Colonist where using or the North and South during the American Civil War! They where lubing their guns with lard for crying out load!
@gard751 I like how it foams up and gets into those "nooks and crannies" where it's a little tricky to get sometimes... I've had a couple other people mention Gunzilla, too, but I haven't seen it before.
@jwelsh1238 I'm leaning toward that one, too, considering the results I got. My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed my spin on it.
@socal2127 It is a little like that lol I just hadn't used either, so I thought it would be interesting to see how they performed against each other, you know? Thanks for watching :]
@JimmyCricket61258 My pleasure :] I'm glad you think it's a decent comparison. I agree - I think they're both pretty good products, just appears to me (from these tests, at least) that perhaps the CLP performed a little better. :]
Great comparison Destinee. I would like to try Ballistol, but no one sells it in my area, I would have to mail order it. The break free is available everywhere. I just use Hoppes anyway LOL. Thanks for the torture test.