you can also try shining light on the white thing that holds the brushes, so you can see if the brushes are close enough on the commutator. if the carbon brushes looks almost like a v ( not exactly V but looks like its a V ) thats great. dying motors tends to go fast like stupid fast then the speed slowly fades away
how is this possible? my brand new hyperdash motor starts at around 26k. after my break-in routine, i only get 28k at most. on mach dash i get 28k stock and 33k at most. what am i missing? i really want to achieve such high RPMs as well!
Don't worry so much about numbers. A fast motor doesn't mean a thing if a car can't stay on a track :) Some of my Hyper-Dash cars give me 34 km/hr on the Tamiya speed checker, but I wouldn't run them on batteries that give more than 31 km/hr speed.
If you measure a single motor, yes, it might be inaccurate. If you compare two motors with the same tool, you will get a good comparison. same with any tool you use!
Great vid. I have a question, it is applicable to do that also on the other motors? And how about if i set the voltage 1.2v, what is the best speed will get
Try measuring rpm using batteries. Im not sure but reading on a consistent power supply and reading on the batteries are not the same on my motors. For example i just done breaking in 2 torque tuned 2 pros (2 different methods,trying to experiment what method is more effective for a newbie like me.) on 3v power supply , 1 motor reads 19k rpm and the other reads 22k rpm. But in full charged batteries with 1.54v reading 1 reads 18.5k and the other reads 20k-21k rpm. So im thinking that rpm varries on what power suppky we are using? (consistent power supply and batteries) not realky sure but thats juat my observation. Anyway nice vid and great motor you have!
Yes, it sure does! However, if you use the same power source to check your RPMs on all your motors, that reduces the randomness variable. Batteries have a lot more variability than consistent power sources. Even the same exact alkaline or rechargeable batteries will yield slightly different results evetry time.
Great video, and warnings :), I am new and have seen many people soaking motor in Lighter Fluid before break in, do you do that as well to get 'sticky' stuff out of motor?
I have heard of people using lighter fluid to clean motors, but I personally don't. Carb cleaner or electronics cleaner is a lot less harsh. Some say that electronics cleaner leaves a thin greasy film on parts, but that would be washed away during the water tune. The trick is to use the least harshest chemicals to do the job, so just follow the method and you'll be good :)
You can never use too much oil is my philosophy. You can basically tap/shake the excess oil out of the motor to get rid of the debris inside. You don't need to be heavy handed with the drops. Just a little drop or two each time you use it, enough to lubricate the insides and loosen the debris. (In other words, don't flood the motor with oil as I've seen others do)
hi, love your videos... just a quick question... I have a Hyper Dash Motor 3... I Used giri to check out the speed out of the box. It only reach 20k. how is your up to 39k... I am running two AA eneloop batteries (1900mah). thanks.
It does. I've been using the same method with tuned motors and it works well with Atomic tuned. I haven't tested with Torque tuned, but I would expect good results, too.
Hello Miss Clare .. can you explain what water-tune is? I dont understand. Because i tried to break-in motor too, and the result was not so satisfying. Thanks in Advance
You often talk about a cleaner for contacts that leave an oily patina on the metal parts, but the oil you use is oily! Sorry for my observation, but I don't understand what difference there is between oily patina of product for electrical contacts or oily patina that leaves the oil of the singer ...
That's a great observation! Different oils will have different viscosities, so some are going to be thicker than others. You want to use products that have thin oils in them, such as sewing machine oils to lubricate your motor parts. The electrical contact cleaners and non-sewing machine oils are thicker oils so if you use that in your motors, they will not run as fast and efficiently as if you use thin oils.
It's likely greater than two AA batteries, but not by much. I like to think of the G-Force as giving you the very top end of what a set of alkaline or rechargeable batteries can give you. Alkalines can give you 1.63V at the top end while rechargeables can give you 1.55V, but volts is not the entire story. Some batteries output a more consistent level of power than others, so a 1.55V Neo Champ will outlast a 1.63V Rayovac alkaline in a long race. Some batteries give a burst of speed at the beginning or a test run while others gradually increase their power output after 10 to 15 seconds.
I show step by step what I'm doing in the video, but it is typically 4 forward and 4 reverse, sometimes 5 forward and 5 reverse depending on if the motor isn't consistent sounding.
At that rpm, I can't help but wonder what kind of gear reduction there must be from motor to wheels, and what you do to that part of the power train! 😯
Hello ms. Clare, I just want to ask what alternative motor break-in oil/s that you may recommend? Thanks in advance. Have a great day ^_^ And what's that other spray you were using in the video?
@@EMSAYMADA Contact cleaner, or electronics cleaner, is used to clean electronic parts. It's basically good for de-greasing metal parts. Some people don't like using it because it leaves a thin layer of oil on the parts, but I've never had issues with it. I think it's fine for cleaning metal parts. You just have to use it sparingly, not drowning the metal parts but using as little as possible to get the part cleaned. You can use it on rollers to get them to spin better, but use very little.
May i add that if you still dont have a battery charger , I recommend you to buy the sky rc NC2500 pro. It has a built in break in system with cable attachment. So you will get a pretty good batyery charger and a decent break in supply. I was so excited to purchase thing i never did enough research and end up on getting the sky rc nc2200, which is by all keans a really good charger. But if i added a bit more $$ i could get the nc2500 with all the added features😢
It's a safer method than the water break-in, so the answer is yes, but your mileage may vary due to the variances in quality of all manufactered products. Motors (or devices with moving parts), even if they are the same type and come from the same factory and made at the same time as motors around it, are never the same. I had one HD motor last for a few weeks while another died in 3 days. One thing to note is break-ins MAY reduce the lifespan of your motors by a lot because you're taxing your motors from the very beginning.
Love the warnings at the start. No wonder my hyper dash burnt out as well when water tune. Keep on keeping on!!!
you can also try shining light on the white thing that holds the brushes, so you can see if the brushes are close enough on the commutator. if the carbon brushes looks almost like a v ( not exactly V but looks like its a V ) thats great.
dying motors tends to go fast like stupid fast then the speed slowly fades away
Ah! Someone had described this concept to me before, but not so clearly. Thank you!
how is this possible? my brand new hyperdash motor starts at around 26k. after my break-in routine, i only get 28k at most. on mach dash i get 28k stock and 33k at most. what am i missing? i really want to achieve such high RPMs as well!
Don't worry so much about numbers. A fast motor doesn't mean a thing if a car can't stay on a track :) Some of my Hyper-Dash cars give me 34 km/hr on the Tamiya speed checker, but I wouldn't run them on batteries that give more than 31 km/hr speed.
seems like you got golden Hyper Dash 3 :)
私はモーター慣らしをする機械がないので使わないシャーシを改造して小さな扇風機で風を当ててモーター慣らしをしています。
シャーシを使うことでネオチャンプの電池慣らしもできると思うのでその方法でやっています。
Thank you for your very insightful break-in method!
@@claredin あとシャーシを使ってアルミローラーの内圧抜きを粒子の細かいコンパウンドを使ってできるのでいろいろ便利に使えます。オススメはS2シャーシです。シャーシをうまく切り抜けば正回転と逆回転もできます。👍
how is your hyper dash goes so fast? i thought it goes around 17K-21K RPM
Is it giri apps reliable to measure the rpm of the dynamo? i think it's have inaccurate measurement
If you measure a single motor, yes, it might be inaccurate. If you compare two motors with the same tool, you will get a good comparison. same with any tool you use!
Great vid. I have a question, it is applicable to do that also on the other motors? And how about if i set the voltage 1.2v, what is the best speed will get
Nice speed
Ok, next break in, mach dash 🔥🔥🔥
Haha! I will try :) I actually only have 2 Mach Dash motors :)
@@claredin did u used normal hyperdash or jcup?
@@adiehobbychannel5476 It was a JCup 2022
Sorry how did you manage to get 39k out of the box? Damn my hypers get only to 28k max
Try measuring rpm using batteries. Im not sure but reading on a consistent power supply and reading on the batteries are not the same on my motors. For example i just done breaking in 2 torque tuned 2 pros (2 different methods,trying to experiment what method is more effective for a newbie like me.) on 3v power supply , 1 motor reads 19k rpm and the other reads 22k rpm. But in full charged batteries with 1.54v reading 1 reads 18.5k and the other reads 20k-21k rpm. So im thinking that rpm varries on what power suppky we are using? (consistent power supply and batteries) not realky sure but thats juat my observation. Anyway nice vid and great motor you have!
Yes, it sure does! However, if you use the same power source to check your RPMs on all your motors, that reduces the randomness variable. Batteries have a lot more variability than consistent power sources. Even the same exact alkaline or rechargeable batteries will yield slightly different results evetry time.
Great video, and warnings :), I am new and have seen many people soaking motor in Lighter Fluid before break in, do you do that as well to get 'sticky' stuff out of motor?
I have heard of people using lighter fluid to clean motors, but I personally don't. Carb cleaner or electronics cleaner is a lot less harsh. Some say that electronics cleaner leaves a thin greasy film on parts, but that would be washed away during the water tune. The trick is to use the least harshest chemicals to do the job, so just follow the method and you'll be good :)
What app is that you're using to monitor?
Is this applicable to a torque tuned?
Great video. Can I ask, I have Voodoo oil, for that one do I need to apply oil as frequently as u mentioned or one to two times is enough already?
You can never use too much oil is my philosophy. You can basically tap/shake the excess oil out of the motor to get rid of the debris inside. You don't need to be heavy handed with the drops. Just a little drop or two each time you use it, enough to lubricate the insides and loosen the debris. (In other words, don't flood the motor with oil as I've seen others do)
Thanks for the tip
Oh also I have a fan turn on during the entire process to make sure the motor is cool, would that effect the process in a bad way at all?
hi, love your videos... just a quick question... I have a Hyper Dash Motor 3... I Used giri to check out the speed out of the box. It only reach 20k. how is your up to 39k...
I am running two AA eneloop batteries (1900mah). thanks.
your battery probably low charge
Waiting for the race track test :)
Why dont you use motor boot camp 2 so you can determine more and program your break in?
Please make sprint dash braking step.
hi Clare,thanks for the video,
does this method go well with tuned motors?
It does. I've been using the same method with tuned motors and it works well with Atomic tuned. I haven't tested with Torque tuned, but I would expect good results, too.
Thanks clare i will try this method on tuned motors as well..
Hello Miss Clare .. can you explain what water-tune is? I dont understand. Because i tried to break-in motor too, and the result was not so satisfying. Thanks in Advance
Water tune is the method you are looking at. It is based on Ken Hamoni's water tune technique here: ruclips.net/video/atslxDXO1H0/видео.html
@@claredin Ok.. Thank you 👍
what break in method would you recommend using Light Dash Motor?
I have not perfected a technique for light dash motors yet. As soon as I have a method, I will post a video for it.
@@claredin thank you for your response. Will look forward to watching that video. More power!
What’s the app you’re using to check the rpm? Thanks in advance!
You often talk about a cleaner for contacts that leave an oily patina on the metal parts, but the oil you use is oily!
Sorry for my observation, but I don't understand what difference there is between oily patina of product for electrical contacts or oily patina that leaves the oil of the singer ...
That's a great observation! Different oils will have different viscosities, so some are going to be thicker than others. You want to use products that have thin oils in them, such as sewing machine oils to lubricate your motor parts. The electrical contact cleaners and non-sewing machine oils are thicker oils so if you use that in your motors, they will not run as fast and efficiently as if you use thin oils.
I've always wondered, the voltage is displayed but what is the current output going into motor?
It's likely greater than two AA batteries, but not by much. I like to think of the G-Force as giving you the very top end of what a set of alkaline or rechargeable batteries can give you. Alkalines can give you 1.63V at the top end while rechargeables can give you 1.55V, but volts is not the entire story. Some batteries output a more consistent level of power than others, so a 1.55V Neo Champ will outlast a 1.63V Rayovac alkaline in a long race. Some batteries give a burst of speed at the beginning or a test run while others gradually increase their power output after 10 to 15 seconds.
Oh! Try torque tuned too please :)
Can this also work with sprint dash and power dash?
May i know, How many forward and how many reverse?
I show step by step what I'm doing in the video, but it is typically 4 forward and 4 reverse, sometimes 5 forward and 5 reverse depending on if the motor isn't consistent sounding.
@@claredin Okay thank you 👍🏻 How about atomic tuned and torque tuned? Is the same way to break in for torque and atomic tuned motor?
@@azmimailan1228 That's a topic for future videos! :)
@@claredin okayy, waiting your video for tuned series
Hi mam.what is the name of the adapter you use for gforce breakin machine?
it's a JOVNO 6V 2A Power Supply 100-240V AC to DC 6V I bought from Amazon.
At that rpm, I can't help but wonder what kind of gear reduction there must be from motor to wheels, and what you do to that part of the power train! 😯
I'll test it soon. I currently have a 46k Power Dash (using the same break-in method) in an open class animal racer. It's wicked fast at 38km/hr
What app did you use?
I used Giri
What about water tune light dash motors?
check if you still have the same RPM running batteries
That's why I did the test at 2.4V :) It presents the low end possibility
@@claredin do the test on a chassis full battery with no gear, i find this most accurate
@@jasperdelumen1587 Ah, I see what you're looking for. Cool, I'll try that next.
Apakah Kamu sudah mencoba break in motor mini 4 wd dengan skyrc nc 2500 ?
Bagaimana menurut sudut pandang kamu soal alat break in motor mini 4 wd ?
Hi! I have not tried the NC 2500 yet. I might get one someday :)
My hyper dash 30k rpm. But gives 38kph on 3v battery
That's great! It all depends on whether you want your motor to be speedy or torquey. What size wheels?
@@claredin 23.5mm
If powerdash and sprintdash same method to do it?
What do you use in blowing hot and cold air?
Hot air is my own breath. Cold air is any compressed air.
What is your app in your cp that reading the rpm of motor
It's Giri
Hello ms. Clare, I just want to ask what alternative motor break-in oil/s that you may recommend? Thanks in advance. Have a great day ^_^
And what's that other spray you were using in the video?
You can try Singer sewing machine oil in the green bottle and the sprays is just compressed air (any brand you can find will be fine),
@@claredin Thank you Ms. Clare!
By the way, what's the difference of contact cleaner, madam?
@@EMSAYMADA Contact cleaner, or electronics cleaner, is used to clean electronic parts. It's basically good for de-greasing metal parts. Some people don't like using it because it leaves a thin layer of oil on the parts, but I've never had issues with it. I think it's fine for cleaning metal parts. You just have to use it sparingly, not drowning the metal parts but using as little as possible to get the part cleaned. You can use it on rollers to get them to spin better, but use very little.
@@claredin Thank you very much for the insight based on your experience. Appreciate it ms. Clare.
Hi. Do you have a link to where to buy the mini break- in system? Thanks
Currently, you can buy them on ebay for about $60-$70. Be sure to get the one that has the reverse button.
May i add that if you still dont have a battery charger , I recommend you to buy the sky rc NC2500 pro. It has a built in break in system with cable attachment. So you will get a pretty good batyery charger and a decent break in supply. I was so excited to purchase thing i never did enough research and end up on getting the sky rc nc2200, which is by all keans a really good charger. But if i added a bit more $$ i could get the nc2500 with all the added features😢
can I apply this break in method to all tamiya motors?
It's a safer method than the water break-in, so the answer is yes, but your mileage may vary due to the variances in quality of all manufactered products. Motors (or devices with moving parts), even if they are the same type and come from the same factory and made at the same time as motors around it, are never the same. I had one HD motor last for a few weeks while another died in 3 days. One thing to note is break-ins MAY reduce the lifespan of your motors by a lot because you're taxing your motors from the very beginning.
thank yo @@claredin
Om klu breakin dinamo setelah dibreakin speed nya malah turun ditest pakai speed cheker itu kenapa yahh
maam where did you bought the G-force Mini Break In System?? i want one... more power to you..
I bought mine from ebay. I believe they are selling for around $60. Just search for "g-force Mini Break-in System"
Oh im from Philippines 😭
@@zumukorinkashiki8401 ebay has sellers everywhere. I found one in Japan from ebay.
Ive search e-bay its $56.. Sadly i dont have any credit cards.. I can only pay through Cash on Delivery.. So sad 😭
Hyper dash normally 31-33k with 3v. 😳
what apps your video?
The app is called Giri.
What app your using to check RPM 😳
I use Giri
What app do you use to know rpm?
It is Giri
I higher the voltage to 9v but sad to say it burned the motor
3V should be maximum for these motors. Some people do 3.2V, but generally they stay on the lower end, 2.4V or 3V
What name meter rpm
Giri
How the rpm counter is connected to the motor?
The Giri app determines your RPM based on the sound that emits from the motor, quite like a pitch detector that musicians use.
Why would water tuning ruin the motor?
I don't recommend it because I had bad luck with it, but your mileage may vary.
@@claredin so the break in method (water tuning) you did in boxstock motor is not recommended?
@@akatzkicris04 No, water tuning is only for box stock motors
@@claredin oh, thank you ma'am.
and I can use higher voltage of battery? what voltage can you recommend for boxstock motor break-in?
@@akatzkicris04 I recommend 3.0V on the G-Force. It gives consistent results.
That's a different engine every 1 minute
okay thanks
mach dash please
In the future :) I only have a few Mach Dash motors right now
Hi just wondering do you have an email or instagram?
IG @Philly.Mini4WD
@@claredin DM SENT 👍🏼