Threatening Jailhouse Calls from Dad of Oxford School Shooter Released: ‘You’re Going Down!’
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In newly released jailhouse calls from the father of the Oxford high school shooter, James Crumbley calls himself a martyr and makes several threats. His statements were so severe, a judge referenced the hateful behavior before sentencing him to 10 to 15 years behind bars. Law&Crime’s Sierra Gillespie details exactly what he said.
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this family is worse than the man who murder all of those innocent people at a McDonald's in San Diego, California in 1990!
He never mentions his son. It's all about what he is going through. What a very selfish person.
While I dont condone what his son did... This is certainly a witch hunt... and is typical of where this out of control 'justice' system is heading. These type of shootings have been going on for a while now.... and yet these are the first parents to be brought up on charges. By this logic.... every crime that a minor commits the parents should be charged as well. This is a travesty and an overreach of the 'justice' system. The sad part is that such a large portion of the population is so out of touch with reality that it's easy to find jurors who will go along with this nonsense.
Exactly
And the apple doesn’t fall far….
And he whines over and over again about the horrible things he'll do to people who cross him... how many years did Ethan listen to that bitter man grumbling about his violent dreams.
Funny he states "..martyrs to make sure it never happens to anyone ever again." As in it was a common issue for parents before!? No your stupidity is _unprecedented_ bud.. it's literal case law history
“It wasn’t us it was the school.” You mean the school that tried to tell you that they had concerns for your son’s mental health and tried to get you to get him help?
Instead they gave their son a gun and ammunition
its wild how delusional this guy is
No wonder that whole pitiful family is locked up. It's sad that the son took responsibility for his crimes, but neither parent did.
EXACTLY
Isn't the son appealing his sentence?
@@neffyg35 literally everyone appeals their sentence
Yeah, he said he was sorry for what his son did but he did not say he was sorry for what he did (arming his son) and what he failed to do (monitoring his son and getting his son help).
I agree with you here l fell şad for the son 😢
Have fun at your parole hearing when they play this recording and never let you see outside of a prison ever again
RIGHT😂😂😂😂😂 "that wasn't me" BRO HOW DID HE NOT KNOW THEY LISTEN TO THE PHONE LINES 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭☠️
Dude he got 15 years at most... he'll be out of prison again trust me.
@ZooGang-qm2lx you muricans are a disgrace to humankind
Yup
Hes have to be completely sorry
Take responsibility or no way getting out early
@@ZooGang-qm2lxa big stick beta ? Nah the men in prison will handle him
He will go after the female prosecutor and not the male one that’s bigger than him…I wonder why…..
He is no doubt, a coward
Because he's a conservative. They only talk tough to men and save their violence for the women.
It called a sheep in wolf clothing when he go to prison he will be a sheep
I think it isn't so much about who he is prepared to go after (as he's never getting out). There are a significant proportion of men who believe women should be subservient to men and hate women who are in positions of authority in any way and have any amount of control over them.
@@nlwilson4892 he got 10-15 years. He will be out eventually...
“When I get out of here, I am on a rampage.” Gee, wonder where Ethan learned it from
The parents failed that child.
The parents failed their own selves !
Failed society.
And FOUR other children 😢
Yep. They failed their whole community.
@melb2258 I'm thinking the same thing
Weird that he only goes after the female prosecutor. Says something about him
Yea he does not like women 😬
😉👏
Not weird. She's the DA, the lead attorney...and the one who brought the charges. The male is her assist. He's mad because it's HER case. He probably barely knew the assist until trial.
It has nothing to do with gender
@@inheritmyshoes9559 It has EVERYTHING to do with gender. You don't hear him directly and personally threatening or degrading & disrespecting ANY males, do you?
@@LittleBlueOwl318
He's going after the person who initiated the case against him.
Those parents are atrocious. They literally are from all aspects the reason their son did what he did.
In other words
DEPLORABLES
This family is the classic study of what not to be.
Or when people should not have children
The mandatory vasectomy law could have prevented it…or a condom
Unfortunately this is a lot more common than not. (Family units like the Crumbley's)
He calls her uneducated while he drives for door dash😂😂
He said he was gonna have her working at McDonalds, while his job was delivering McDonalds 😂
@@dwarfchron801 He's also using the word martyr when I believe he means scapegoat.
No need to denigrate DoorDash drivers. One day you might have to do some jobs you don't like to feed yourself and your family.
I drive for door dash as a side hobby and I make close to 500 a week on top of my actual job probably make more than you
@@kylew2165
Well put.
Fwiw, something tells me that the CV of that particular commentator isn't stellar.
If my kid did this, I'd beg for forgiveness from the families of the victims and express my deepest remorse. My heart would be broken, not full of anger.
Oh sod off- this is the first time in history they've punished someone for the actions of someone else.
@@Memevze Are you familiar with accessory to a crime?
@@diandie1838 with prior knowledge sure
All of you are hypocritical liars.
@@Memevze you sod off.
Listening to his unhinged rant in the phone call made me picture him being that abusive to his son. Was there any documented history of abuse in their home?
Honestly all the evidence points more to neglect.
@@nemarchepas Neglect IS abuse.
@@nemarchepasyou could consider that emotional neglect
@@nemarchepas neglect is still abuse lol
Will they press charges for verbally threatening the prosecutor?
It was taken into consideration at the sentencing.
I'm sure it'll be taken into consideration during any porale hearings too.
That kid didn’t stand a chance with parents like this.
Because of these calls, James should be sentenced another 10 years!!!! When he's released, I bet he will go after the DA.
I feel bad for that kid. With those parents, he never had a chance.
Amen!!
Even worse is that I read that some of the mothers friends or co-workers have heard her refer to her son as 'the accident'
That is so sad@@wintertrooper7918
Gee, I wonder where his son got his evil attitude. Surely not from his dad.
The apple never falls too far from the tree.
Very original comment. Did you have to Google it?
@@kylew2165 you're bad at zingers lol
😂 @@kylew2165
Threatening anyone as the father of the teen who engaged in shooting 4 students who are deceased he the father me crumbly should be identified as a problem with recorded threats on calls to his son . James Crumbley is dangerous
When you see how these parents conduct themselves, you almost feel sorry for their son despite his crimes. He never had a chance growing up with them.
Idk why they can't comprehend why the parents would be responsible for gun safety. He knew what state of mind his son was in.
“It wasn’t us, it wasn’t us, it was the school.”
Glad this guy and his wife as well as his son are being held accountable.
No sympathy for the families. No accountability for neglecting his son, giving him a gun. How is it the school?? You’re the caregiver! Parents think school is a second group of people responsible for their kids smh
The school, that was worried about their son and urged them to get him help. But these narcissists are now somehow the victims, the martyrs even? You had one job to do, you didnt do it, now youre paying for it. I feel so bad for the kid, everybody deserves parents, not self-centered martyrs.
He says he's cried so many times for the victims parents. He's such a disgusting liar. His jailhouse calls say everything we need to know. It's funny how criminals don't think anyone monitors their calls.😂 Yeah both of them needed to be held accountable too.
STILL not taking any responsibility for not locking up the gun
As creepy as his son
The dad is so delusional… the narcissism is truly showing with these calls.
like father like son. it's scary how both of them have that dead look in their eyes
Sometimes stuff like this is hereditary
That's just stupidity I think 😂
Genetics and stupidity
Evil is not hereditary. It’s born thru evil thoughts
Honestly, most people have a similar expression on their mug shots. They've not had much sleep and been put under a lot of stress, often don't have means to comb their hair, have a shower etc. either.
It doesn't excuse what the son did, but in watching the trials of his parents it explains a lot about what brought him to the point of his actions.
She’s going to be working at McDonald’s? Dude was a literal doordash driver… the delusion
Like son like father...huh what?..disturbing home.
At least his son actually wanted help. He was practically begging for it in fact near the time of the crime. Both his parents, along with the school, failed all of those victims, as well as Ethan Crumbley himself. Because they had a chance to allow Crumbley the professional help which he was asking for. But they all chose to just sit on their hands instead and hope for the best. Shameful.
@@buddygrimfield7954
My heart still breaks for Ethan. I don't believe he ever had a chance.
(And it's entirely possible to feel compassion for Ethan and despise his acts, lest the outraged pipe up.)
@@mortalclown3812I feel bad for Ethan as well. the evidence clearly showed he knew he was unwell, and asked his parents (especially his mother) for help over and over. Instead they just laughed at him. I’ve never seen a more despicable pair of inept parents like the Crumbleys.
@@buddygrimfield7954 worse....they bought him a gun.....
It's like the parents of Mathilde, but no cute Hollywood ending.
Wow he's volatile.
Is the dad seriously trying to use weaponized incompetence as a reason to be not guilty?
Or weaponised ignorance?
Why would he not when that "excuse" clearly worked out just fine for the school?
@@buddygrimfield7954 The school didn't buy him the gun. Sorry 😔
@@buddygrimfield7954did your mommy help with your comment? 😢😮😂
8:49 That father is an absolute fool. He is no martyr. He is no upstanding citizen that is being falsely persecuted. He claims that Karen McDonald is uneducated? This guy is as ignorant as they come.
he couldn't even pronounce martyr and called the DA uneducated 😂
Sure. Blame the school, not yourself James Crumbley! Ever heard the saying, "It all starts at home?" 👿
See... apple doesn't fall far from the tree. That boy got that mindset from his home.
Why'd they run .... They hid for days ....and they knew their son was troubled
She sent a text saying "no lawyer will be able to help shooter so we're looking after ourselves"! Awful people
"When I get out of here..." is the start of a sentence that usually has a delusional ending. He thought he would be getting out in 3 - 4 months after fleeing...? Insane These two don't give a damn about their son. Did not care what he did. Bought his son a gun while the son was going through mental issues.
Father of the year! Put him in prison for another 15 years.
14:52 - I love how they say they did not know what was gonna happen that day at all but, at the same time as soon as they heard about the shooting James went to check if the g** was still at home an jennifer immediately texted Ethan “dont do it” 🤦🏽♀️ ; THEY KNEW WHAT HE WAS CAPABLE OF!!
He joined the military and is fighting for everyone s freedom???? Delusional….call her uneducated??? This guy……
Not forget that him and his wife went on the run after and hid.
Dude just learned the word martyr
He doesn't know how to use it properly however.
Imagine calling someone uneducated while also not knowing how to pronounce martyr.
The dad is a loudmouth pansy! He isn't gonna do nothing but rot in jail for awhile.
Oh, I don't know about that. He said he felt like he'd joined the military and was fighting for his country. He's probably saying the same stuff to other prisoners. Some of them are vets that have fought for their country. I'd say he's going to be getting a few punches coming his way.
He wants to go after a prosecutor for doing her job. He will blame everyone but himself. None of this would've ever happened if he and his wife took the minimum amount of reasonable care.
Sounds like he wants to stay in prison
✨Ms. Karen McDonald brought a first-of-it's-kind of case to conviction(s)!!! Hopefully, all threats made will be taken seriously, and charges will follow⚖️⚖️⚖️
It isn't just Crumbley they need to worry about either. Some of the gun nuts see this as an attack on gun owners.
What a loon he is. I actually did not think his prosecution was fair but after hearing that, I have changed my mind, he could 10:46 not care less about 4 dead kids, no wonder his son was screwed up. What a whack job
I find all these jailhouse calls just insane, like they both know they’re being recorded?? How does insulting or attacking or threatening the judge in a recorded phone call help their case at all?
8:51 “uneducated, ignorant district attorney”. This dude has ALL the audacity. 🤣🤣🤣
Temerity, gall, nerve, petulance and procacity of it all.
More parents need to be held accountable for the crimes of their children If you don't want to be a parent, don't have children. Once you do, you are accountable for their actions.
Another example of failed parenting. Guarantee the parents will always believe they were victims in this.
The child is not to be allowed to get calls from parents
The 3 of them have been forbidden to speak with each other from arrest to sentencing. Since I believe there are appeals in the works, that'll still be in effect.
Why exactly? New rule you're making up?
@@Memevze it's not a new rule, codefendants are not allowed to communicate in prison. These people are no different and no exception should be made just because they're a crappy family. The victims families will never get to speak to their kids again. The shooter was damaged enough by these parents. The don't deserve special consideration to communicate.
And?!
Given how these two parents have been acting in court, it's no wonder Ethan had such a bad home-life. Total ego maniacs.
There's millions of people like this. That is the craziest thing. They aren't an anomaly.
Exactly, I was more shocked that people were surprised these types of people were so hateful, violent and selfish. The denial from society that these types of dysfunctional people go on to raise dysfunctional children is surprising.
These parents are disgusting. Are they products of the same house hold . Poor child and the victims.
Products of the NRA.
Wow what terrible selfish parents. Tell me you watch newsmax without telling me.
What?!
Why does every courtroom have somebody obnoxiously coughing in it?
Maybe it's a true crime groupie -- the same person who travels the country to attend/observe various trials. 🤔😉😁😁
Cause human beings cough sometimes?
It was callled common sense or any sense of responsibility……..and there are so many crumblys out there…..so many
There really are….its sad & scary we live amongst them ! No common sense, no responsibility, their perception is astonishing !
So we see where his son got the idea of armed rampage from.
Like father like son, and he wants his punishment as Timed Serve? Haha thats funny as heck so long James Crumbly
Parents worse than the son .
So did he just start talking like this? More likely this is the stuff he put in his kids head.
Exactly; blame others and shoot them to get even.
Poster Child of the WORST FATHER IN THE WORLD. James is real brave on the phone. He bought his MENTALLY ILL son an automatic weapon. Duh...
Automatic?
Definitely not an automatic weapon! Wtf are you talking about
Sending my love and prayers to the victim's families.
REST*IN*PARDISE ANGELS
He definitely will stay in prison.
Like Father like Son
Sad and pathetic. He blamed the school instead of his son speaks volumes
The person on the other in of that phone call is pathetic
Your son is a teenager, you’re legal guardian. You need to be held responsible.
This kid never had a chance in life.
Wow. Wonder where the kid got it from.
Just for this the dad should get jail. How does he not understand the role he played in all of this?
Did I hear him blame the school?!
Yes he did. He took no responsibility at all.
@@esdee878 Some of the faculty directly involved in this matter are also at fault for this senseless tragedy though.
@@esdee878 Neither did the school. They had MULTIPLE opportunities to involve Child Services and see to it that Ethan got the professional help that he was in fact practically begging for by the point in time where the crime took place.
I blame the dean of students and the counselor….they were the last barrier to safety….if they didn’t want to check his bag…they could have called the police to do it….charge them too….
He did blame the school. Because apparently schools are supposed to parent his child. The school also bears some responsibility for not searching his bag or sending him home, but they are way down the line of failures. The Crumbley parents are first.
The lack of accountability is disgusting
What a jerk !
We see where his son got it from. The wife was no better.
James Crumbly was surprised that his "I didn't know" defense didn't work out.
It's pretty obvious that the kid is badly damaged having to grow up with a father like that. The father should never be released from prison.
Then why did they run and hide? He is sickening
Because the are COWARDS.
These 2 parents are the reason why they all are locked up. Disgusting parenting & James should get extra time....ijs
“A martyr or martchorrah however you want to pronounce it” 🤔 I don’t think it’s the attorney who’s uneducated or ignorant 🙄
How is it that the son is coming across as the most sane one in the whole family.
The one dim spot of daylight is that she is his stepmother. On the other hand, somewhere he has a mother who was percieved in some way to be a worse parent than these.
New charge - terroristic threats.
The more we hear from these 2 the more clear it is to why their son was the way he was and did the things he did.
This man is disgusting no sense of remorse no sense of his failures as a father. Horrible man!
Unhinged and dangerous.
Weird how their eyes are almost identical
So I guess daddio was just crying for himself in the courtroom 🙄
The school bought him the gun guys, the school bought him the gun and ammunition! Why can't you just get it!
What do you mean the school bought it? I hope you're being sarcastic?
@diandie1838 of course I'm being sarcastic!
James is a narcissist .. and his behaviour is typical
Take some accountability it is your fault your child or anybody is capable of violence given the right circumstances or situation not to excuse anything just saying
This guy is the lowest of the low.
Among the multiple things James Crumbley did wrong, he would have had to knowingly lie on the form that you sign stating that you are purchasing the gun for yourself and not for someone else.
A martyr 😂. Dude, you're still alive
Interesting, he feels no responsibility or remorse. He feels comfortable blaming the school for his child's actions.
DISGRACE!
7:27 "Based on nothing". Wow, James really is evil. 4 dead unarmed children isn't "nothing".
This case is disgusting from ALL sides.
bs verdict
Why would he call a district attorney uneducated?